Dec 16, 2024 Angleton Better Living Corporation

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ALL RIGHT. I CALL TO ORDER A DECLARATION OF A QUORUM FOR THE MEETING FOR TODAY, WHICH IS MONDAY, DECEMBER 16TH.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

GOING, MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING OF

[1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of September 16, 2024.]

I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MEETING.

THE MEETING MINUTES.

WHY THAT DATE? I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANY FURTHER COMMUNICATION DISCUSSION FOR A CALL FOR A VOTE.

HAVING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

I SORRY. I HAD A MENTAL BLANK THERE.

SORRY. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[2. Discussion on possible action on natatorium hours of operation and lifeguard staffing. ]

HOURS OF OPERATION AND LIFEGUARD STAFFING.

AND I SEE MRS. MAYNOR AT THE PODIUM.

OH. I'M SORRY. I DID.

[INAUDIBLE] NOW IT'S JASON O'MARA.

I APOLOGIZE.

I AM REALLY NOT DOING A GOOD JOB.

GLASSES. GOOD EVENING.

BOARD. SO, YES, THIS IS A DISCUSSION.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT THIS UP KIND OF DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IT WAS ASKED TO COME BACK TO BRING SOME IDEAS TO YOU.

SO DURING OUR INITIAL DISCUSSION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS IN SEPTEMBER, ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD WAS TO INCREASE THE STAFFING REQUIREMENTS AT THE NATATORIUM SPECIFICALLY FOR LIFEGUARDS TO ADDRESS SOME SAFETY AND RISK ISSUES THAT WE IDENTIFIED WITH, THAT IT BROUGHT WITH US A PRETTY HEFTY INCREASE.

AND SO SOME OF THAT CAME FROM LOOKING AT THE ZONES OF COVERAGE, SOME AREAS OF DISCREPANCIES.

SO YOU'LL SEE THERE IN YOUR PACKET.

SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS JUST TO HELP GIVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONES OF COVERAGE.

SO AS LIFEGUARDS, THEY GO BY A 2010 RULE.

THEY HAVE 20S TO SURVEY THEIR AREA OR 10S TO SURVEY AND 20S TO RESPOND.

SO IT'S REALLY 30S WITHIN TOTALITY TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY TO MITIGATE EMERGENCIES IF THEY WERE TO HAPPEN AND ON PAGE 13 IN YOUR PACKET, YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE AN EXAMPLE OF THE ZONES OF COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY PUT IN PLACE WHEN WE HAVE FIVE GUARDS ON STAND.

SO WHEN WE ASK FOR THE INCREASE IN LIFEGUARDING FUNDING, THAT WAS TO INCREASE US TO FIVE GUARDS ON SHIFT AT ALL TIMES, AND THAT WOULD BE FOUR GUARDS ON STAND AND THEN WE ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE THEM AT LEAST 15 MINUTE BREAK FROM THE WATER EVERY HOUR FROM WATCHING THE WATER.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU NEED FIVE GUARDS ON SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOUR UP.

YOU ROTATE AND YOU HAVE ONE DOWN AT ALL TIMES AND THEY ROTATE THROUGH THOSE SECTIONS.

SO BASED ON THE NATURE OF OUR POOL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF BLIND SPOTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF WALLS, AND SO WE HAD TO IDENTIFY IT TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THE SAFETY OF ALL OUR PATRONS, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COVER ALL THOSE ANGLES. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE WERE TRYING TO MITIGATE, WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE WITH THE PLAY FEATURES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE, OUR SLIDE, AND THEN THE SIZE OF OUR POOL AND THE WALLS AND BARRIERS THAT WERE IN.

THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT CAME FROM DURING A RECENT INSPECTION.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AGAIN OF THE NEED TO HAVE A ATTENDANT AT THE SLIDE.

SO THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FROM THE MANUFACTURER.

OR THEY RECOMMEND, AS YOU SEE IN THE PACKET AND TALK ABOUT HAVING A SLIDE ATTENDANT AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE.

IT'S A NECESSITY.

GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THE LIFEGUARD COVERAGE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE TO COVER THE SHOOT WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE SPLASH ZONE, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT GUARD POSITION THERE BY THE SLIDE. BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AN ATTENDANT AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE.

SO PART OF OUR REQUEST ALSO INCLUDED A SLIDE ATTENDANT TO BE INCLUDED AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE DURING OPERATIONS OF THE SLIDE.

BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT OF WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

STAFF WENT BACK TO LOOK AT A NUMBER OF PIECES OF DATA TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO YOU'LL SEE ON PAGE TEN THIS IS AN ANALYSIS OF THE MORNING COVERAGE OR MORNING ATTENDANCE FOR THE POOL FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR.

THE REASON WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON THE MORNINGS WAS, IF YOU REMEMBER, BACK IN THE SPRING OF 24, WE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION SOME OF THE LOW ATTENDANCE FOR THE EVENINGS. SO WE ALREADY BROUGHT THAT RECOMMENDATION IN TO REDUCE THE POOL HOURS FROM 8:30 TO 7:30.

THE BOARD APPROVED THAT, SO WE TOOK THAT EFFECT AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

SO THAT HAS ALREADY GONE INTO EFFECT.

SO WE WANTED TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE ATTENDANCE FIGURES THAT IT LOOKED LIKE FOR THE MORNING.

SO YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF GRAPHS HERE.

THIS JUST BREAKS DOWN THE MONTHLY ATTENDANCE NUMBERS.

YOU WILL SEE A COUPLE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN.

SO THE TWO LIGHT BLUE ONES THAT ARE SURROUNDED BY THE YELLOW ONE, THOSE INDICATE OUR PEAK SEASON.

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THE REASON I'VE INDICATED THE YELLOW IS HIGHLIGHTED.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A WONDERFUL HURRICANE THAT CAME THROUGH AND OUR FACILITY CONVERTED OVER TO A SHELTER WHICH CLOSED OPERATIONS.

SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SKEWED.

SO POINTING THAT OUT AS FAR AS PEAK SEASON GOES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR OCTOBER OUR AUGUST NUMBERS WERE A LITTLE SKEWED BECAUSE OF SOME CLOSURE DOWNTIME TO FIX SOME REPAIRS FOR THE FACILITY FOR THE NATATORIUM SPECIFICALLY, BUT THOSE WERE DURING OUR PEAK SEASON.

LOWER THAN THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT BOX WHICH ANALYZES IT TO SHOW OUR SEASONAL AVERAGES, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT BROKEN DOWN FROM THE 5AM TIMEFRAME OF WHEN WE OPEN TO THE LAST ONE BEING TAKEN AT 10:30.

SOME BECAUSE WE'RE OPEN TILL 11:30.

SOMETIMES THOSE 11:00 HOUR DOESN'T ALWAYS CAPTURE THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

SO WE CHOSE TO PUT THAT DURING THE 10:00 TIME FRAME AND THEN YOUR LAST BOX IS GOING TO SHOW THE DAILY AVERAGES OF WHAT WE LOOK, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THEY COME THROUGH.

AN INTERESTING ONE YOU WILL SEE IS DURING OUR NONPEAK WE ACTUALLY SEE A GREATER USAGE AND WHEN I SAY GREATER ABOUT A ONE PERSON HIGHER USAGE IN SOME OF THOSE MORNING ONES, AND IT JUST SHOWS HOW OUR FACILITY FLUCTUATES FROM PEAK TO NON PEAK AND HOW IT VARIES THROUGHOUT.

SO BUT THAT GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW.

AS YOU CAN SEE AND YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE VERY EARLY TIMEFRAME THAT 5AM IS THE MOST UNDERUTILIZED TIME THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND THEN IT SLOWLY GROWS UP FROM THERE.

YOU'LL NOTICE BETWEEN ABOUT THE 8:00 TIMEFRAME IS WHEN WE OFFER OUR WATER AEROBICS.

SO THAT ONE DOES HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST JUMPS THAT YOU SEE.

WE CURRENTLY OPERATE THE POOL TO HAVE ADULT SWIM TIMES FROM OPENING UNTIL 9:30, SO YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT NUMBER JUMP AFTER ADULT SWIM TIME ENDS.

SO AGAIN THIS IS THE WEEKDAY TABULATION.

SO WE'LL SEE IF IT'S STAY AT HOME MOMS. GRANDPARENTS COME IN WITH KIDS.

THAT TIME JUMPS UP AROUND THAT 10:00 TIME FRAME AS WELL.

SO BUT THAT BREAKS DOWN THAT.

MOVING ON TO OUR PACKET, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR RECOMMENDATION.

SO IN TOTAL FOR TODAY FOR DISCUSSION, WE'VE BROUGHT SIX BEFORE YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM IN ORDER OF OUR PRIORITY AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

SO THE FIRST ONE AS I MENTIONED IS THAT 5:00 TIME FRAME.

SO WHEN WE OPEN AT 5:30 FROM 5:30 TO 6:30 IS THE MOST UNDERUTILIZED TIME.

IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THOSE HOURS AND OPEN THE POOL AND PUSH THAT BACK TO 6:30 YEAR ROUND, INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT OPEN AT 5:30, THAT WOULD SAVE A TOTAL OF $14,573 TO DELAY OUR OPENING BY ONE HOUR FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

OPTION NUMBER TWO IS CURRENTLY, WE RUN OUR PEAK SEASON TO GO FROM MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY.

PROS AND CONS THAT COME WITH THAT AND MAKE SOME CONSISTENCY IN BEING ABLE TO MARKET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

HOWEVER, WE DO SEE A VERY DRASTIC DECLINE AS SOON AS SCHOOL GOES BACK INTO OPERATION AND SO WHEN SCHOOL'S IN SESSION, WE SEVERELY DROP OFF.

SO IF WE WERE TO REDUCE OUR PEAK SEASON BY THREE WEEKS AND FOLLOW MORE OF LIKE A SCHOOL CALENDAR, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO MITIGATE THE NEED FOR LIFEGUARDS DURING THE HOURS OF OPERATION DURING THE DAY.

SO WE WOULD JUST START OUR NON PEAK SEASON A LITTLE EARLIER TO WHERE THE POOL WOULD CLOSE AT 11:30 AND REOPEN AT 4:30.

THE SAVINGS THERE FOR THOSE THREE WEEKS WOULD BE $6,500.

NUMBER THREE PROPOSAL IS TO ELIMINATE THE MORNING SLIDE ATTENDANCE.

SO AS WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE SLIDE ATTENDANT, THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS THE SLIDE ATTENDANT FOR THE NON PEAK SEASON.

SO WHEN THE SLIDE ATTENDANT WOULD COME IN IS THEY WOULD COME IN ABOUT 9:15 AND THEY WOULD WORK TILL 11:30.

SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT 2 OR 2 HOURS AND 45 MINUTES OF TIME THAT WOULD GO THROUGH OR THAT THEY WOULD BE THERE.

IT'S NOT A HEAVILY UTILIZED TIME.

WE DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH.

TYPICALLY, WE SEE A LOT OF YOUNGER KIDS THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE SLIDE CURRENTLY.

SO THIS WOULD HAVE A VERY MINIMAL IMPACT.

BY ELIMINATING THAT, WE WOULD STILL KEEP THE SLIDE OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS, WHICH IS ARE MORE HEAVILY USED TIMEFRAME.

A LOT OF OUR RENTALS ARE PARTIES TAKE PLACE AT THAT TIME.

BUT IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THE SLIDE ATTENDANCE ON THE MORNINGS OF NON PEAK SEASON, THAT WOULD REDUCE THAT BUDGET BY ABOUT $5,100.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, OR PROPOSAL NUMBER FOUR, IS REDUCING THE EVENING HOURS OR THE SCHEDULE AND LIMITING THIS TO BEING ONLY OPEN ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.

CURRENTLY WE ARE IN PROCESS OF HAVING OUR SWIM LESSONS HAPPENS ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, SO THAT'S PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR HAVING THE POOL OPEN AT THAT TIME TO COINCIDE WITH SWIM LESSONS HAPPEN, BUT THIS WOULD MAKE IT TO WHERE WE WOULD CLOSE THE POOL ON MONDAY EVENINGS AND FRIDAY EVENINGS.

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BUT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT TO ELIMINATE THOSE TWO DAYS AND THAT WOULD BE DURING THE NON-PEAK SEASON, WE WOULD BE DROPPING ABOUT $21,000 FOR THAT.

NUMBER FIVE, THIS ONE IS DOING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW DUE TO OUR STAFFING SHORTAGE FOR LIFEGUARDS.

PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO LIMIT THE MORNING HOURS AND ONLY BE OPEN MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY MORNINGS AND BE CLOSED ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY MORNINGS.

AGAIN, NOT IDEAL IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF HAVING CONSISTENCY FROM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUT IT STILL GIVES THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY KNOWING THAT IT'S NON PEAK SEASON, WE DON'T SEE AS HIGH USAGE.

SO IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THAT AND ONLY HAVE THE POOL OPEN ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY MORNINGS VERSUS HAVING IT OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WE'D HAVE ABOUT A $30,000 REDUCTION THERE AND THEN PROPOSAL NUMBER SIX IS HOLIDAY CLOSURES.

CURRENTLY WE OPERATE UNDER REDUCED HOURS.

SO DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT HOLIDAY FALLS IT WILL ALTER IT TO WHERE WE WOULD BE OPEN FROM 8 TO 6.

PART OF THAT IS DUE TO THE SUPPORT OF FULL TIME STAFF.

FULL TIME STAFF ARE GIVEN OFF FOR CITY HOLIDAYS.

SO WE'D BE REDUCING THOSE HOURS AND INSTEAD OF BEING 8 TO 6 ON HOLIDAYS, WE WOULD LOOK AT CLOSING THOSE AND THAT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO GO BY THE 11 HOLIDAYS THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN PLACE FOR THEM TO TO PARTICIPATE IN.

BUT THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSIONS OF HAVING IT'S WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SUMMER.

MAYBE WE REDUCE IT AND WE KEEP MEMORIAL DAY WOULD STAY BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY BIG ONE.

JULY 4TH WOULD STAY IS ONE OF THE ONES IN THERE.

JUNETEENTH IS ANOTHER ONE.

AND SO MAYBE EIGHT OF THEM.

BUT IF WE WERE TO GO ALL 11, COST IS KIND OF MINIMAL.

AS FAR AS SAVINGS, IT'S ALMOST $9,000, BUT IT WOULD PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SAVINGS ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, THAT AS FAR AS STAFF GO, WE RECOMMEND AND FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRST THREE.

THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY SEAMLESS PROCESS.

HOWEVER, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DRASTIC CHANGE IN OUR OPERATION TO ELIMINATE DAYS, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE TO OUR MEMBERS AND GUESTS AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT, TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BEFORE WE DO THAT.

SO THEY WOULD SEE HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THEIR USER FEES.

IS THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES? THE OTHER SIDE WOULD BE WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A FEE STUDY FOR THE CITY, AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE FOR MEMBERSHIPS TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS AS WELL.

SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, IF OUR FEES DO CHANGE AND THEN WE'RE REDUCING HOURS, WE DON'T WANT IT TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE USERS THAT USE THE FACILITY.

THE LAST THING I DID WANT TO MENTION WITH THAT IS A FUTURE EVALUATION.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE OUR CURRENT PLAY STRUCTURE THAT'S ON THE GROUND.

SO THE HOPE IS THAT THAT WILL REPLACE IN 2025.

ONCE THAT IS REPLACED, WE PLAN TO REASSESS THIS, OUR COVERAGE, WHICH MAY ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR ONE OF OUR GUARDS.

CURRENTLY, THE STRUCTURE THAT'S IN PLACE CAUSES A LOT OF BLIND SPOTS AND VISIBILITY ISSUES AND SO THAT'S PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION OF WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT.

IS THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SEE AROUND SOME OF THAT PLAY STRUCTURE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE GUARDS IN PLACE BECAUSE THE CURRENT ONE IS KIND OF BULKY.

SO IT'S HARD TO SEE PAST THAT AND SEE ALL THE AREAS THEY NEED TO VERSUS THE NEW ONE SHOULD BE LOWER TO THE GROUND, HAS MORE TRANSPARENT SIDES, SO IT SHOULD CREATE A EASIER LINE OF SIGHT, WHICH MAY ALLOW US TO ELIMINATE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS TO FURTHER REDUCE THE COST.

SO WE'LL JUST BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND THOUGHTS COMMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO JASON, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M TRACKING LIKE THE REASON FOR THESE LIKE PROPOSED CUTS IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEED FOR THE FIVE LIFEGUARDS AND SLIDE ATTENDANT. SO WHEN WE CAME TO REQUEST FOR THE BUDGET, IT WAS THE INCREASE ON THE LIKE, JUST THE LIFEGUARDING STAFF WAS $141,000.

SO THAT WAS A PRETTY HEFTY INCREASE TO PUT INTO OUR BUDGET.

ALTHOUGH WE'VE SEEN RETURNS ON OUR MEMBERSHIPS GOING UP AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IT'S STILL A LOT TO CONSUME.

SO THE BOARD WANTED US TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN AND SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS PRELIMINARILY, THAT WE CAME UP WITH AND WANTED TO BRING BEFORE THE BOARD TO HAVE THE FIRST START DISCUSSIONS, AND THIS COULD BE ALL OF THEM.

THERE COULD BE MORE THAT THE BOARD WANTS US TO LOOK AT.

SO IT WAS A WAY TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT HEFTY INCREASE AND GET CREATIVE WITH WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO KEEP THAT COST DOWN.

SO THE Y'ALL LISTED AS NUMBER ONE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN FOR ME.

SURE. PRESENTLY THE POOL IS SUPPOSED TO OPEN AT 5:30.

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I'M GOING TO SAY THAT'S VERY INCONSISTENT.

JUST BEING THERE, LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO COME IN AND USE IT AND THEN HAVING TO HEAR THEM SAY, OH, IT'S NOT OPEN YET.

IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER REASON, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT STAFFING ISSUES.

I THINK THAT'S USUALLY THE PROBLEM.

SO IF YOU WERE TO MOVE TO A 6:30, I FEEL LIKE WE'D BETTER NAIL THAT.

WE BETTER BE OPENING EVERY DAY AT 6:30.

THEY'RE NOT. WE CAN'T HAVE STAFFING ISSUES AT 6:30 BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY LOSING AN HOUR, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR SOME PEOPLE.

JUST THEY'RE GOING TO VOICE THEIR COMPLAINTS 100%.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YEAH.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY THING.

ON .1.5 OR EXCUSE ME, POINT FOUR.

EXCUSE ME, NOT .4.5.

I KNOW IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY IN FAVOR, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT PERHAPS CLOSING JUST MONDAY MORNINGS AND THEN GOING TO A FOUR DAY WEEK STILL PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES.

MONDAYS. PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF THE WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS TURNOUT AND IF YOU SET A FOR SURE SCHEDULE, LIKE A LOT OF BUSINESSES AREN'T OPEN ON MONDAYS, YOU COULD KIND OF, I THINK PERHAPS BE, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT I WOULD RATHER THERE BE AT LEAST FOUR MORNINGS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S JUST ONE MORNING.

I MEAN, WE COULD DO FRIDAY MORNINGS, BUT I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY OR FRIDAY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO WHERE.

BUT I WAS THINKING MONDAY IS JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING OFF THE WEEKENDS, I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEN YEAH.

THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS CHANGE THE KEEP CHANGING YOUR HOURS AND ANY BUSINESS WORLD AND ANY BUSINESS CLIMATE INCONSISTENCY TO YOUR HOURS SPELLS DOOM.

PEOPLE START GOING, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPEN OR NOT, SO I'M JUST NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, IT USUALLY DOESN'T RECOVER.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE US DO THAT.

I ALSO HATE TO SEE US CLOSE IT DURING THE PEAK SEASON, LABOR DAY TO MEMORIAL DAY.

OR ARE WE GOING? NO, WE'RE GOING MEMORIAL DAY.

OKAY, SO DURING LABOR DAY, TO MEMORIAL DAY, THROUGHOUT THIS, THE FALL, WINTER AND EARLY SPRING, WE WANT TO CLOSE IT ON CERTAIN DAYS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED, SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE TO HARP ON IT TOO MUCH.

I WANT TO GET DOWN TO YOUR NUMBERS, THOUGH.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME DOUBLE COUNTING HERE AND I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE GOT THESE NUMBERS FROM, BECAUSE IF I REDUCE NUMBER ONE, DOES THAT ALSO TAKE IN NUMBER TWO? BECAUSE IF I TAKE AND REDUCE THE TIMES FOR THE LIFEGUARD, IS THAT ALSO IN THE MORNING AS WELL OR IS IT IS THAT DOUBLE COUNTED AND SO YEAH.

SO THAT LIKE SOME OF THEM WILL DEPEND ON LIKE THIS IS IF YOU WERE JUST TO JUST TO DO THAT.

SO THERE IS SOME DOUBLE COUNTING.

YES. OKAY AND THEN I WANT TO GET TO NUMBER THREE.

HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT $5,000? BECAUSE BY MY MATH, THAT'S THAT DOESN'T WORK TO ME.

YOU'RE ONE LIFE, ONE LIFEGUARD IN THE MORNINGS.

HOW MANY HOURS? THREE.

FOUR HOURS REDUCED.

IT SHOULD BE 9:15 TO ABOUT 11:45.

SO THAT'S 2.5 HOURS A DAY.

FIVE DAYS A WEEK AT 1121 AN HOUR.

ALL RIGHT. BUT THEN YOU HAVE HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S WORTH THE SQUEEZE, HONESTLY.

BUT WHAT? SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REDUCING THAT PEAK SEASON BY THREE WEEKS, IT'S JUST THE SCHOOL YEAR.

WHENEVER THE SCHOOL YEAR BEGINS.

YEAH. SO WE'D BE REDUCING IT BACK TO HOW MANY HOURS A DAY? YOU WOULD BE CUTTING OUT 11:30 TO 4:30- 5 HOURS.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU STAY OPEN DURING THE THE DAY.

YEAH. SO WE'D STILL BE OPEN DURING THE DAY.

WE WOULD JUST MOVE OUR NON PEAK SEASON HOURS UP.

AGAIN WHEN WE GO, LIKE WHEN SCHOOL GOES IN SESSION RIGHT AROUND THAT SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST, OUR SUMMER NUMBERS JUST DROPPED LIKE THEY DROP OFF, BUT WE'D STILL BE OPEN TILL 11:30.

YOU WOULD JUST BE MISSING THAT AFTER LUNCH.

TIME IS REALLY BIG AND I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO IMPLEMENT.

TO ME, THAT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF VERY MANY PEOPLE WILL NOTICE.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT WILL BE LESS NOTICED AND THEN ON THE SHEET THAT YOU HANDED OUT, I REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE.

YEAH. SO THIS I APOLOGIZE.

I FAILED TO MENTION THAT PART OF IT.

SO WHEN I WAS RELOOKING AT THIS FOR SOME THINGS, A TALKING POINTS TONIGHT, I RECOGNIZED THAT IT DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO ONE IN YOUR PACKET.

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WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BOTTOM NUMBERS, THEY DID NOT MATCH UP AND THERE WAS ONE CALCULATION THAT THREW OFF BOTH ROWS OF THAT.

SO YOUR PAPER IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH AND SHOW MORE APPROPRIATELY WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE BASED ON.

SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SEASONAL AVERAGE, THIS IS GIVING YOU YOUR MONTHLY TOTALS.

RIGHT? I KIND OF GO WITH THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE PEAK SEASON DROPS OFF.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A SKEWED NUMBER AS WELL BECAUSE JULY AND AUGUST WERE NOT FAVORABLE FOR US THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN THE ONE AFTER THAT, WE'LL SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT YOUR DAILY AVERAGES LOOK LIKE DURING THAT TIME FRAME, WHICH I CAN ATTEST THAT 5:30 TIME FRAME.

05:30-6 WE USUALLY SEE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE IN THE POOL.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE AVERAGE.

06:30 TO 7 IS USUALLY WHEN MORE INDIVIDUALS START TO COME, AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY THE OLDER GROUP THAT WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING IN THE HOT TUB OR THEY'RE GOING IN TO DO A LOT OF SWIMMING. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CHANGED IN THAT FIVE SECONDS, THAT 5AM SESSION.

BECAUSE THE HURRICANE HADN'T HIT AND JUNE DROPPED.

SO WE WENT FROM 42 TO 14.

WE'VE NEVER RECOVERED FROM MAY, AND IT SEEMS KIND OF CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO SOMETHING ELSE CHANGED.

I FEEL LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND MAYBE IT'S JUST TOTAL SPECULATION.

KIDS AREN'T IN SCHOOL.

PARENTS DON'T HAVE TO GET UP QUITE AS EARLY TO GET HOME.

BUT THEY HAVE TO DO IS AND I SEE THIS A LOT OF TEACHERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK.

THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR EXERCISE IN AND BACK TO THE HOUSE BEFORE THEIR KIDS WAKE UP.

SO THAT EARLY, 5:00 NOW THEY GET TO SLEEP IN BECAUSE THEIR KIDS ARE SLEEPING IN.

THEY CAN COME AT SIX OR THEY CAN COME AT, YOU KNOW, 6:30 OR WHATEVER AS OPPOSED TO.

SO THEY JUST GET PUSHED TO A LITTLE BIT LATER TIME.

SURE. BUT IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

LOOK AT YOUR 6AM LOOK AT YOUR 7AM IT NOTHING'S RECOVERED AND ESPECIALLY KIDS WENT BACK TO SCHOOL IN AUGUST.

SEPTEMBER IS EVEN LOW AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OCTOBER'S DATA IN HERE AS WELL.

I'D LIKE TO YOU KNOW SO SEPTEMBER I CAN SPEAK TO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT.

SO KIND OF AS I REFERENCED IN THAT ONE, TALKING ABOUT THE TUESDAY, THURSDAY CLOSURE WE STARTED TO HAVE OUR LIFEGUARDING ISSUES RIGHT AROUND SEPTEMBER TO WHERE WE HAD TO START ALTERING OUR SCHEDULE.

SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S NOT GETTING FULL LIKE FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

RIGHT. WHEREAS LIKE IF I SHOWED OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER FOR THIS YEAR, THE SAME THING, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY SCHEDULE.

SO YOU'RE MISSING TWO DAYS OF DATA THAT COMES FROM THEM.

YEAH. TO INTERJECT ON THAT ONE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE CLOSURES AND SUCH LIKE THAT, BUT THE STAFFING.

THE QUESTION IS THAT WE'RE PLAYING WITH THE NUMBERS AND THE HOURS AND SUCH.

HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT OUR STAFFING? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WE SPOKE ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO CHANGE THE HOURS AND MODIFY AND EXPAND OR SHRINK.

BUT DO WE HAVE THE STAFFING? AN EXAMPLE MAYBE THE NEXT WEEK, AFTER WE HAD OUR MEETING, I WAS IN THE OFFICE AND A YOUNG GUY COMES THROUGH AND I SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TODAY? HE SAID, I HAVE TO GO. I'M WORKING.

HOW DO YOU HAVE A JOB? WHAT KIND OF JOB DO YOU HAVE? I'M A LIFEGUARD. I SAY, WHERE? HE SAID IN LAKE JACKSON.

HE'S ACTUALLY A STUDENT HERE AT ANGLETON.

I SAID, WHY DIDN'T YOU APPLY? OR WHY DIDN'T YOU TRY TO BE A LIFEGUARD HERE AT THE REC CENTER IN ANGLETON? AND HE SAID, WELL, I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE AND PLUS, I THINK I MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN LAKE JACKSON.

SO THE THING IS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPETITIVE.

WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUR KIDS WHO ARE IN SCHOOL TO DRIVE DOWN TO LAKE JACKSON.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A JOB HERE.

SO I THINK THE HOURS ARE GREAT ABOUT MAKING THE CHANGES.

BUT WE DO HAVE TO THINK, LIKE WHAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, JASON, IS THAT HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT US? WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE STAFFING.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE STUDENTS ABLE TO STAFF THOSE TIMES AND NOT HAVING THE STAFF MAY BE AFFECTING WHY THE NUMBERS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.

IS THE PERSON THAT'S GOT TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE IS THAT HAD TO BE A LIFEGUARD OR IS THAT JUST IS IT JUST A IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT IT'S A LIFEGUARD.

WE JUST STAFF IT CURRENTLY THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WOULD BE, THEY COULD ROTATE THEMSELVES IN.

SO IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL COVERAGE TO IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS NOT A GUARD, YOU COULD CLOSE THE SLIDE AND STILL HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE POOL OPEN AND KIND OF GOING TO THE POINT OF STAFFING AS WELL, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO THE CURRENT FIVE GUARDS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WITH OUR AQUATIC MANAGER IS AREAS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO COVER.

SO EXAMPLE WOULD BE WE HAVE ONE GUARD THAT'S OVER BY THE SPA, AND IF WE WERE SHORT A GUARD IN THE MORNING, WE COULD CLOSE THE SPA BECAUSE THAT IS A SEPARATE BODY OF WATER.

SO KIND OF THINKING.

SO THE GUARD THAT'S BY THE SPA, WE COULD CLOSE THAT BODY OF WATER AND BECAUSE IT'S SEPARATE, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME IMPACT ON THE POOL.

WHEREAS OUR POOL IS ONE BODY OF WATER, WHICH MAKES IT TRICKY.

WHEREAS IF WE CLOSE THE SPA, WE COULD THEN OPEN THE FACILITY, BE OPEN, AND THEN IF WE WHEN WE FOUND THAT ADDITIONAL COVERAGE THAT COME IN, WE WOULD THEN OPEN THE SPA.

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WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

OR THE EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT DOWN GUARD.

YOU CAN HAVE A DOWN GUARD STEP UP AS LONG AS YOU HAVE COVERAGE WITHIN THAT HOUR TO GET SOMEBODY OFF STAND.

SO THERE'S WAYS TO TO WORK AROUND THAT.

BUT CURRENTLY WITH WHERE WE'RE AT, IT CAUSED ISSUES BECAUSE SOMEBODY WOULD CALL IN SICK OR THEY WOULDN'T SHOW UP AND THE POOL WAS CLOSED UNTIL WE COULD EITHER GET SOMEBODY THERE OR GET STAFF IN, OR IT WAS CLOSED UNTIL LATER THAT DAY.

SO Y'ALL HIRING NEW PEOPLE? WE ARE. YES.

SO AND KNOCK ON WOOD, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, AS QUICK AS THEY COME AND THEY QUICK, THEY GO UP.

WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT BEING FULLY STAFFED FOR OUR MORNING AND HOPING TO OPEN THE POOL BACK UP FULL COME THE NEW YEAR.

WE STILL HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE MONDAY, WEDNESDAY FRIDAY CLOSURE.

WE HAD THREE ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT CAME IN RECENTLY THAT WERE WARNING GUARDS AND I BELIEVE OUR STAFF SHOULD BE AROUND 18 RIGHT NOW.

STILL CONTINUING TO HIRE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL SHORT IN FEW.

SO WE'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP OURSELVES FOR THE HOURS THAT WE NEED, BUT WE'RE NOT 100% TO OUR FIVE GUARDS ON STAND YET OR ON SHIFT, BUT WE'RE INCHING CLOSER TO IT, SO WE'RE MAKING A LOT MORE PROGRESS THAN WE WERE IN OCTOBER.

THAT'S GOOD. SO I GOT TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO IT'S LIKE IS JOHN SAID, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE, TWO AND THREE, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN THE RECOMMENDATION, AND YOU SAID THAT THERE IS SOME DOUBLE COUNTING, BUT IF WE DID SAY, OKAY, EXECUTE ONE, TWO AND THREE, WHAT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL NUMBER THEN IN TERMS OF TOTAL SAVINGS? WELL, SO THE SLIDE ATTENDANT ITSELF I MEAN, DOUBLE COVERAGE WISE, THAT'S.

YEAH, IT'S FAIRLY MINIMAL BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY REALLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE THREE WEEKS THAT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER ONE WOULD BE ONLY PUSHING THAT HOURS FORWARD FOR THAT ONE TIME FRAME.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE MORNING HOURS.

SO YOUR MORNING HOURS, IF WE DO NUMBER ONE, THAT IS REDUCING BY AN HOUR.

CORRECT. SO THAT ONE STAYS WHERE IT IS THERE AND ACTUALLY ALL THREE OF THEM, AS I SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T DOUBLE COVERAGE EACH OTHER BECAUSE THE MORNING ONE JUST ADJUSTS THE 5:30 CLOSING THREE WEEKS EARLY TO PEAK HOURS, WE WOULD STILL BE CLOSING THE POOL AT THAT TIME.

IT WOULD BE REDUCING THAT FIVE HOURS DURING THE DAY.

SO THIS ONLY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT FIVE HOUR REDUCTION DURING THE DAY, AND THE ATTENDANT ONLY COVERS THAT TIME IN AFTER ADULT SWIM TO COVER THE 11:30 TO 11.

SORRY. 9:30 TO 11:30 OPEN TIME.

OKAY. SO WE COULD IF WE SAID WE COULD, THEN JUST ADD THOSE NUMBERS IN TOGETHER.

YEAH AND THE ONLY THE ONE WOULD BE THAT SLIGHT ATTENDANT FOR THREE WEEKS.

SO. 1121 I THINK IT CAME OUT TO 12.5 HOURS WAS WHAT THEIR WEEKLY TOTAL WAS.

SO 12.5 TIMES, THREE TIMES 11, 21.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR MINUS THOSE OUT.

OKAY. SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND POINT OR QUESTION IS THAT YOU SAID FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS 4 OR 5 AND SIX, WOULD YOU WOULD WANT TO GET A WHAT, HOW'D YOU SAY IT? NOTIFICATION OF THE MEMBERS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON WOULD ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF VOICE THEIR OPINION ON HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THEM AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THEIR DESIRE TO MAINTAIN THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND STILL UTILIZE THE FACILITY.

IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THOSE HOURS AND POTENTIALLY YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IF IT WAS THE SAME FEE OR AN INCREASED FEE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT BEFORE WE WERE TO GO INTO THAT SO WE COULD TAKE THEIR INPUT INTO IT.

OKAY. HOW QUICK COULD YOU TURN AROUND, TURN THAT AROUND AND GET.

GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US.

I MEAN, I WOULD PROBABLY AT LEAST WANT THAT OPEN FOR ABOUT 30 TO 60 DAYS, SO WE COULD WORK ON TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

YEAH. OKAY.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT STAFF OR THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE POOL OR EVERYONE? NO. I MEAN, MAJORITY OF THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT COMING FROM STAFF.

SO THIS IS OUR, YOU KNOW, THINGS WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.

BUT I WOULD WANT TO GET THE COMMUNITY THEIR INPUT ON HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THEM.

YEAH. USER INPUT.

YEAH. BECAUSE WE WANT TO GUIDE THAT CONVERSATION TOO THOUGH.

BECAUSE IF YOU PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE CONSTITUENTS, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG RANGE.

SO YOU WANT TO GUIDE THAT.

OH ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IT IN THE FORM OF A SURVEY AND ASK THEM VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP THEM TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK, BUT ALSO KNOW THAT WE

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RIGHT. YEAH. SO WE CAN GATHER TO WHAT'S GOING TO SUIT US WELL, TOO.

AS FOR THE GOVERNING BODY, FOR THAT, GARY, TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, SO THAT THREE WEEK OVERLAP DOUBLE COVERAGE IS ONLY ABOUT $420 FOR THAT FLIGHT ATTENDANT.

YEAH, THAT IS THAT DIFFERENCE.

ALL THE REST OF THEM WOULD COMPILE THERE.

SO IT WAS WOULD YOU SAY AROUND $26,000.

YEAH AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING OF IS JUST LIKE ONE, TWO AND THREE GETS US 26 GRAND RIGHT THERE.

BUT THEN NUMBER FIVE ALONE BY ITSELF IS LIKE 30 GRAND, BUT IT'S FALLEN INTO THAT CATEGORY OF LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S GOT TO TALK AND GET INPUT FROM THE USERS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SITTING HERE THINKING OF IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, THEN, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD WE MINIMIZE THE CHANGES AND YET MAXIMIZE THE RETURN.

SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, BOTH ON NUMBER FIVE, YOU COULD DO ONE DAY OR THE OTHER AND STILL MAKE AN IMPACT.

I AGREE. THAT'S WHY I WAS SUGGESTING MONDAYS JUST BECAUSE SOME OF THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK.

YEAH AND TRULY OUR NUMBERS TYPICALLY TEND TO, YOU KNOW, CURVE DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK.

SO MAYBE FRIDAY'S ALL DAY.

YEAH. WHATEVER. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE.

MOST PEOPLE LIKE TO START STRONG ON THE ON THE WEEK.

AND THEN THEY GET TO FRIDAY AND THEY'RE LIKE YEAH MONDAY WAS GOOD.

YEAH. MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS SHOW.

YEAH. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD FOLLOW.

YEAH AND THAT'S THE THING TO DO ON FRIDAY.

IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHY WE LOOKED AT THAT MONDAY.

LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONSISTENCY WITH IT.

RIGHT. FOR THE EVENING ONES, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY WITH OUR CURRENT PROGRAMING AND HOW THAT WORKS, FRIDAY EVENING IS HIT OR MISS CAN REALLY DROP OFF AND IT'S NOT PEAK SEASON VERSUS OUR PEAK SEASON.

WE'RE TRYING NOT TO REALLY IMPACT THAT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, REDUCING OUR PEAK SEASON BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A HUGE DRAW AND THEN THE MORNING, IT'S LIKE YOU MENTIONED, EVEN IN THE NUMBERS, OUR MORNING NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S NON PEAK OR PEAK.

YOU'RE SEEING 1 TO 2 PEOPLE COME IN AT THAT OPENING TIME FRAME.

YOU KNOW, I MUST NOT DIGRESS, BUT I WILL SAY, GROWING UP IN A SMALL TOWN IN ARKANSAS, WE HAD THIS SETUP WHERE OUR TOWN, OUR CITY WOULD BE CLOSED ON THURSDAYS. NO MERCHANTS WERE OPEN ON THURSDAYS.

THE NEIGHBORING TOWN, THE MERCHANTS WERE CLOSED ON WEDNESDAYS.

AND SO THE THING IS, THAT I THINK WHEN YOU GROW UP IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE USED TO THAT, WHEN YOU CLOSE ON A FRIDAY OR MONDAY, I THINK WE PUT IT OUT THERE TO COME TO EXPECT IT WILL JUST BE A NATURAL PROGRESSION.

I AGREE. ONCE I AGREE WITH JOHN MAKES A GOOD POINT.

YOU KNOW, ONCE WE DECIDE WE NEED TO LIKE, WE DECIDE THAT WE CAN'T BE FLIPPING AROUND AND DOING DIFFERENT.

SO WE CAN.

EXACTLY. BECAUSE YOU'D BE ABLE TO STUDY IT AND SEE HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT IT.

MY ONLY THOUGHT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PICKING A DAY, PERHAPS A FRIDAY.

IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THESE IMPLEMENTATIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THEM ALL AT ONE TIME AND NOT PIECEMEAL IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD YOU? YOU KNOW. WAIT.

YOU'RE ALREADY CHANGING THIS ON ME.

NOW YOU'RE COMING BACK AND ADDING SOMETHING ELSE, AND IT JUST FEELS MORE LIKE, YEAH, JUST RIP THE BAND AID.

IT FEELS MORE SO JUST PICKING ON THEM.

TWO THINGS I WOULD SAY WITH THAT ONE.

AND THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.

SO OUR FALL, OUR SPRING PLAYBOOK IS ALREADY READY AND THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING PUSHED OUT AND SO TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT TODAY MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST THING BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE PUBLICITY ABOUT OURS.

SO I WOULDN'T ENVISION THAT UNTIL THE SUMMER TIMEFRAME.

IF WE WERE TO DO THAT JUST THOUGHT PROCESS, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.

IT'S JUST THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIG PUBLICATIONS IS THE INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT.

SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE AN ACTUAL ARTICLE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF WE JUST CHANGES ARE MADE.

YEAH. LET THEM KNOW OF SOME OF THE BIG CHANGES THAT ARE COMING ALONG AND THEN THE OTHER THING RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE WERE TO GO TO LIKE A ONE DAY CLOSURE, WE COULD ACTUALLY SPEND THAT ON BEING A MAINTENANCE DAY AND THAT GETS AN OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY FOR A POOL.

THAT MIGHT BE A DAY. THAT IS, OUR FULL TIME STAFF CAN GO IN THERE AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE HEAVY STUFF VERSUS WHEN IT'S FULLY RUNNING.

THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR POOLS TO HAVE A CLOSURE, ESPECIALLY LIKE IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING AN HOA.

A LOT OF HOA POOLS ARE CLOSED ON MONDAYS.

YEAH, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A FULL WEEKEND AND THEY LOVE HOA POOLS, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE CARE OF THEM AS MUCH AS THEIR HIGH PEAK TIME WAS THE WEEKEND AND THEY HAVE TO RECOVER ON A MONDAY.

SO OUR HIGH PEAK TIME AND THE PEAK SEASON IS DAILY.

SO OUR RECOVERY IS ALL NON PEAK SEASON.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT JUST ONE DAY.

I DON'T THAT'S JUST ME.

SO FRED BEING CLOSED FRIDAY MAKES MORE SENSE THAN MONDAY ACCORDING TO NUMBERS WISE.

YES. I MEAN EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE FOR THAT ONE IS OUR GROUP EXERCISE SCHEDULE.

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THAT KIND OF USED FOR THIS PURPOSE HERE, BUT ALL OUR OTHER CLASSES ARE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY BECAUSE ON FRIDAY WE JUST DO NOT HAVE AN ATTENDANCE FOR IT AND SO THAT'S TYPICALLY THE TIME FRAME.

SO BUT AND THAT'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A COUPLE ON HERE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVENINGS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MORNINGS AND SO ONE OF THEM IS CLOSING THE MORNINGS AND BE OPEN FOR THE EVENING.

THE OTHER ONE IS CLOSING FOR THE EVENING BEING OPEN FOR THE MORNING.

BUT IT COULD BE AN ALL DAY CLOSURE.

SO. SEEMED LIKE IT SEEMED LIKE BEING CLOSED ONE FULL DAY WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR Y'ALL, AND PROBABLY FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BECAUSE THEY'LL JUST KNOW DON'T GO.

DON'T GO SWIMMING THIS DAY AND GO WORK OUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

BUT THE POOL IS CLOSED ON THIS DAY, RIGHT? OR IS IT IS THE WHOLE REC CENTER GOING TO BE CLOSED THAT DAY? SO YEAH.

NO, I MEAN, I, AGREE WITH JUST THE POOL, CARPOOL.

JUST, I WOULD SAY JUST THE POOL.

AND REALLY LIKE, MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NON-PEAK SEASON.

POOLS ARE A FUNNY THING BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTINGENT BASED ON WEATHER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN INDOOR POOL.

RIGHT? I CAN TELL YOU THAT DECEMBER AND JANUARY ARE NOT HEAVILY UTILIZED.

LIKE WE SEE IT SLOWLY DROP OFF IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, AND THEN YOU'LL START TO SEE A LITTLE BIT PICK UP IN JANUARY AND THEN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

WE REALLY START TO PICK UP.

BUT IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING AND SAYING, OH, IT'S CLOSED IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY BECAUSE THEN YOU THROW EVERYTHING OFF.

PEOPLE ARE CONSISTENT FOR TEN MONTHS OF THE YEAR, BUT IF YOU WERE A SEASONAL POOL, PEOPLE WOULD KNOW, DON'T GO THERE OUTSIDE THE SUMMER.

IT'S NOT OPEN OUTSIDE THE SUMMER.

THEY'RE OPEN FROM MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY.

AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? VERSUS OURS LIKE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR EVEN THOUGH IT'S COLDER OUTSIDE, PEOPLE DON'T ASSOCIATE SWIMMING WITH COLD WEATHER.

WE HAVE AN INDOOR POOL, BUT THERE'S NO HVAC, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY REGULATE THE TEMPERATURE.

SO IF YOU COME IN OUR POOL AND IT'S 50 DEGREES OUTSIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL 50 DEGREES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR AIR QUALITY IS.

WE HAVE HEATERS, BUT THAT IS CENTRALIZED HEATERS.

WHEN YOU'RE STANDING IN ONE SECTION, IF YOU GET OUT OF THE POOL IN THE WRONG SECTION, IT'S COLD.

AND OUR POOL IS HEATED.

SO IT'S 85.

SO YOU COME OUT, IT'S 50 AND IT FEELS 50.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT DROP OFF.

BUT YOU GET A DAY LIKE TODAY AND IT'S 80 DEGREES OUT AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE OH SWIMMING IS A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH IT'S 50 DEGREES OUT.

SWIMMING IS NOT SUCH A GREAT IDEA.

WHAT DOES LAKE JACKSON DO? THEY DO A DAY CLOSED? THEY CLOSE THEIR POOL? THEY HAVE MAINTENANCE HOURS.

HOURS? OKAY. I THINK THEY'RE OPEN EVERY DAY.

10 TO 2.

MONDAY THROUGH OR. SORRY, 10 TO 2 ON FRIDAY.

I THINK FRIDAY IS THURSDAYS, 10 TO 2.

ALL IN ONE DAY. YEAH YEAH, YEAH.

WHEN? BACK IN THE OLD DAYS.

WHEN THE OTHER ANOTHER POOL EXISTED IN ANGLETON.

IT WOULD BE CLOSED THAT WE'D HAVE TO RIDE OUR BIKES BACK DOWN THIS WAY AND THEN RIDE BACK AND YOU KNOW, IT WOULD OPEN BACK UP IN THE EVENING SO THEY COULD COORDINATE THE HECK OUT OF IT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS PRETTY COMMON TO CLOSE AND, YOU KNOW, AND AROUND NOON AND THEN GO BACK AROUND FOUR. SO MEGAN KIND OF JUST BROUGHT THIS UP.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR MEMO THAT WE PUT OUT FOR THE PARKS AND REC MEMO ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND TRACK WHAT THE USAGE LOOKS LIKE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DECLINE THAT COMES IN SHOWING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, THAT IT'LL START TO DROP OFF AS WE GO THROUGH.

SO EVERYBODY STARTS OUT HIGH.

THEY HAVE THE GREATEST OF INTENTIONS ON MONDAY AND THAT IS RECREATION FITNESS AS A WHOLE.

MONDAY IS THE DAY THAT EVERYBODY GOES STRONG.

THAT'S TRUE. FRIDAY YOU DO NOT.

IT'S LIKE NO MORE ENERGY.

MONDAY WILL COME AGAIN NEXT WEEK.

NOW I CAN SEE. I CAN SPEAK FOR THE GYM.

FRIDAY MORNINGS THERE MIGHT BE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE IN THERE.

IT'S AMAZING. IT'S TRUE.

YOU HIT IT HARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK AND IT MAKES UP FOR THE END OF THE WEEK.

YEAH, MAKE UP FOR THE WEEK.

YEAH. WORK THE WEEKEND OUT OF YOU.

YOU GOTTA SWEAT IT OUT OF YOU AND THEN IT'S ALL GONE BY THURSDAY.

YEAH. SO SOME PEOPLE CALL IT FRIDAY EVE.

SO IF I MAY, SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IF WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE, WE WANT TO DO IT AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL AND IF WE WANTED TO DO 4 OR 5 AND SIX, YOU NEED 30, 60 DAYS TO GET INPUT FOR THAT.

SO ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE RIGHT NOW LIKE HOLIDAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A WHOLE LOT RIGHT RIGHT NOW.

WE CAME BACK FRESH THE NEW YEAR AND HAD THOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THIS FOR 30-60 DAYS.

WHAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING ROUGHLY? YEAH. SO IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT OUR NEXT MEETING.

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YES. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BOARD'S DECISION.

THIS IS SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN DO ANY OF THAT.

A LOT OF IT. WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE NOTIFY THE PUBLIC APPROPRIATELY AND PUT THIS IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

IT'S JUST SOMETIMES YOU JUST IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET EVERYBODY.

SO YOU MIGHT GET THAT INITIAL SURGE OF PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT IT.

BUT EVEN SO, THE EXAMPLE I GAVE IS WHEN WE SWITCHED OUR HOURS IN 2022 WE ADJUSTED HOURS, AND THAT'S WHEN WE WENT TO THE FIVE HOUR CLOSURE DURING THE WEEK.

IT USED TO BE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, TWO HOURS.

AND WE EXPANDED THAT OUT TO FIVE HOUR TIME FRAME BECAUSE WE JUST WEREN'T SEEING THE ATTENDANCE AND SO SOME PEOPLE GOT THROWN OFF BY THAT.

WE GOT THE NORMAL COMPLAINTS AND I'LL BE HONEST WHEN I SAY, LIKE BEING AT THE FACILITY.

HALF A DOZEN COMPLAINTS OF IT BEING CLOSED, WHICH WERE IN OUR NUMBERS, THE HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE THAT CAME TO SWIM DURING THAT TIME, THEY WERE UPSET BECAUSE IT IMPACTED THEM.

BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING LIFEGUARDS AND THE COST BENEFIT THAT COMES WITH IT, FIVE MEMBERSHIPS DOES NOT PAY FOR THE FIVE GUARDS AT THIS TIME, OR EVEN TWO GUARDS AT THAT TIME, TWO GUARDS TO BE ON STAND FOR THE FIVE HOURS OF THAT TIME FRAME.

IT JUST IT WASN'T BENEFICIAL AS A BUSINESS TO OPERATE LIKE THAT.

SO YOU GET SOME OF THAT COME BACK AND PEOPLE GET CONFUSED ABOUT THE HOURS, BUT EVENTUALLY EVERYBODY GETS USED TO IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN WE HAVE IT NOW AND PEOPLE KNOW THE HOURS AND WE WORK THROUGH.

SO THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU CALCULATED WERE THEY CALCULATED BASED ON LIKE STARTING LIKE JANUARY OF 26 OR LIKE JANUARY 25TH.

THAT WAS LIKE OH.

SO FOR THESE NUMBERS, THAT WOULD BE LIKE REAL NUMBERS AS OF TODAY.

SO LIKE IF WE WERE TO ADJUST BASED ON IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, IT'S LOOKING AT THE HOURS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE WORKED.

THEIR RATE OF PAY THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THEN THE LONGEVITY OF HOW LONG WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THOSE OUT.

SO LIKE 52 WEEKS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE A FULL 52 WEEKS THAT WOULD IMPACT THE FIVE LIFEGUARDS IN THE MORNING.

SO I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT GUIDANCE FROM US, RIGHT? YOU FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE.

GARY, I THINK, LAID IT OUT PRETTY WELL.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WITH YOU TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY MAKE A DECISION NEXT TIME.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

I WONDER HOW MUCH ALL THESE ONE THROUGH SIX WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY BEING CLOSED ONE DAY.

YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WOULD THOSE NUMBERS KIND OF ADD ALL UP OVER IT JUST BY BEING CLOSED THAT ONE DAY.

WOULD YOU SAVE? LIKE WHAT YOU FIGURED ON NUMBER FOUR AND ALL THAT? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE PAYING THE LIFEGUARDS TO BE THERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE FRIDAY OFF.

I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BONUS.

TAKE OUT SIX BECAUSE THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, RIGHT? LIKE I WOULD STILL LIVE.

I DON'T SUPPORT SIX. RIGHT.

YEAH. BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR AND FIVE THE EASIEST WAY I WOULD LOOK AT THAT.

SO OUR FIRST ONE WE TALKED ABOUT KNOCKING OUT TWO DAYS.

NUMBER FOUR. RIGHT. KNOCKING OUT TWO DAYS.

CUT THAT NUMBER IN HALF BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE YOUR EVENING HOURS FOR ONE DAY RIGHT.

THE SAME THING FOR NUMBER FIVE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE DAY EXCEPT FOR TWO.

CUT THAT NUMBER IN HALF.

SO IF YOU TAKE THOSE IN YOUR $25,000, $25,000, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO ONE DAY, I WANT TO SEE YOU BRING THIS BACK TO US.

BUT I WANT TO SEE THE MATH.

OKAY. I WANT TO SEE IT.

IF ONLY THIS ITEM OR IF THIS ITEM AND THIS ITEM TOGETHER.

GIVE US THE BREAKDOWN OF EACH OF THOSE.

I WANT TO KNOW THE AVERAGE PAY RATE.

NUMBER OF HOURS.

I WANT IT ALL LINED OUT AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SAID MUCH.

SO BEFORE YOU. TABLE, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING AT THIS THE WRONG WAY.

NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO RUN THIS LIKE A BUSINESS, RIGHT? SO WE NEED A STRATEGY.

WHO ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS? BECAUSE I THINK WE KEEP REFERRING TO JUST THE MEMBERS.

BUT WE WE GET A LOT OF REVENUE OFF NONMEMBERS, TOO, DON'T WE? WE DO. YES. SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHO OUR CUSTOMERS ARE.

REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE TARGETING? WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE? DO WE WANT TO JUST LOOK AT MAKING SURE OUR MEMBERS ARE HAPPY? DO WE WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GROWING? WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW.

I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE ALL LOW HANGING FRUIT, HONESTLY, FOR YOUR SAVINGS.

WE REALLY NEED TO INVESTIGATE JUST THE REC CENTER IN TOTAL, BECAUSE THE REC CENTER IN TOTAL HAS A LOT MORE COSTS THAN JUST THIS.

WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY LIFEGUARDS HERE, WHICH IS THE POOL.

THAT BIG OF A DRAW, IS IT NOT? I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO SIT HERE IN 30, 45 MINUTES AND TRY TO DECIDE ALL THESE ITEMS, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A SESSION ON THE REC CENTER

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MY OTHER POINT ABOUT IF YOU CLOSE ON FRIDAYS, I'M GOOD WITH CLOSING ON FRIDAY, EXCEPT FOR ONE THING, KEEP YOUR PARTY RENTALS.

YOU'LL GET REVENUE OFF THOSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE LIFEGUARDS TO PAY, BUT IF YOU DO RENT IT OUT FOR A PARTY, YOU'RE PAYING THE LIFEGUARDS.

SO THAT COULD BE AN THAT COULD BE AN AVENUE FOR REVENUE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COST ON THAT THOUGH.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE PAYING FIVE LIFEGUARDS $11 AN HOUR, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME OUT TO ABOUT $60 ROUGHLY, BECAUSE IT WAS CHANGE.

WHAT ARE WE RENTING OUT FOR? A LOT MORE THAN THAT, $60 AN HOUR.

SO LOTS OF LIGHT AND AIR CONDITIONER HEAT.

AND, JOHN, YOU BRING UP SOME GREAT POINTS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL MENTION WITH THAT ONE IS THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS STAFF WANT TO DO.

WE WANT TO EXPLORE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE REC CENTER TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY THE OPERATIONS OF THE REC CENTER AND WHERE ARE WE HEADED? WHAT DO WE NEED? WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY WANT? SO WE CAN ALIGN THOSE.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN KNEE JERKING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WANTED, LIKE WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE DPW GRANT, IS TO TRY TO GET THAT, TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT, TO HAVE A FULL OVERHAUL.

SO 100% AGREE ON THAT ONE AND TO THE POINT ABOUT THE PARTY'S ONE.

I CAN TELL YOU AND I'LL BRING YOU THE NUMBERS AND SHOW YOU ALL THAT FRIDAY PARTIES ARE FAIRLY LIMITED.

WE REALLY DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF FRIDAY PARTIES COME IN, AND PART OF IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PRIVATE POOL PARTIES.

THEY'RE JUST INDOOR PARTIES OR INDOOR PARTIES, BUT TYPICALLY FRIDAYS IS PROBABLY OUR LEAST OUT OF ALL OF THEM.

I'M SAYING IF YOU KEEP IT THERE AVAILABLE.

YEAH, AND WE DEFINITELY COULD, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE RUN OUR PRIVATE POOL PARTIES IN THE SUMMER.

CORRECT? IS IF WE TAILOR IT TO ME, PRIVATE POOL PARTIES.

THE PRICE IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN AN INDOOR POOL PARTY, RIGHT? AND THAT ONE IS BASED ON THE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO RESERVE X NUMBER OF DAYS IN ADVANCE SO WE CAN ENSURE WE HAVE STAFFING.

WE SET UP STAFFING IN THE EVENT THERE'S NO PARTY.

WE CANCEL STAFF AND IT'S A ZERO COST FOR US.

THAT'S RIGHT. ADDITIONAL TO THAT, KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE FEE STUDY IS WE'RE STILL EVEN EVALUATING THAT AND SO IF YOU'LL REMEMBER FROM SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, OUR PARKS AND REC NUMBERS, WE WANT TO GET RIGHT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T IS THE RENTAL PIECE OF IT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.

WE JUST ADDED FIVE LIFEGUARDS AND NOW PARTY'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ADD GUARDS BASED ON THE USER CAPACITY.

BUT ARE WE CHARGING THE APPROPRIATE THINGS, KNOWING THAT THERE'S FIVE GUARDS? PARTIES ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO HELP RECOUP THOSE COSTS AS WELL AND SO THOSE ARE GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE OPERATIONAL COSTS HAVE INCREASED.

SO SOME OF THAT WILL COME BACK AS WELL.

WE JUST HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT PIECE YET.

SO THOSE ARE ALL GREAT POINTS.

OH, ONE OTHER THING TOO IS I CAN YOU BRING UP THE MAP OF THE ZONES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE OTHER NIGHT WAS, IS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR PROBLEM IS LIFEGUARDS AND IT'S THE ACTUAL VISIBILITY AND STUFF, AND YOU SAID YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT DOING RENOVATIONS OF THE.

YEAH. AND ZONE ONE AND TWO IS THAT PLAY STRUCTURE? YEAH. MY QUESTION IS THAT WHAT IF THERE WAS A YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE THREE ZONES OVERLAPPING RIGHT HERE.

WHAT IF THERE WAS A LIFEGUARD PLATFORM THAT WAS RAISED UP WHERE LIFEGUARDS COULD BE POSITIONED THERE TO LOOKING AROUND INSTEAD OF ALL BEING ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN.

SO WE WOULDN'T SAFELY BE ABLE TO HAVE ONE IN THE CENTER WITHOUT HAVING ISSUES WITH PEOPLE BEING AROUND THAT, THERE'S NO SAFE PLATFORM FOR IT.

I CAN SAY THE ZONE FOUR AND ZONE THREE CURRENTLY HAVE GUARD STANDS THERE.

SO THOSE ARE RAISED AND MAINLY THAT IS DUE TO ANYWHERE YOU SEE MOSTLY IN ZONE THREE.

THAT'S THE LAZY RIVER THAT IS A LOT OF WALLS.

THE PROBLEM THAT CREATES IS YOU CANNOT SEE IN THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.

SO IF SOMEBODY GOES DOWN THERE'S OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS THERE'S SO MANY WALLS.

SO I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE OF LIKE A LAKE JACKSON.

THEIR POOL IS PRETTY SQUARE RECTANGLE.

THEY HAVE THE IDEAL ZONE FOR YOU SEE STRAIGHT ACROSS YOU PUT SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE BOOM.

YOU'RE DONE. RIGHT.

WE LOSE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CLAY FEATURE IN THE MIDDLE.

WE HAVE THE WALLS THAT GO THROUGHOUT THE LAZY RIVER.

IF YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE OF THE POOL, YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE LAZY RIVER OTHER THAN HEADS ABOVE WATER.

IF THEY'RE BELOW WATER, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU'RE ON THAT SIDE AND EVEN EVEN SO, WITH SOME OF THOSE AREAS AND ANGLES THAT ARE OVER THERE AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NEW PLAY FEATURE, ITS PROFILE IS SMALLER.

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THAT PLAY FEATURE SIZE THINGS WERE BULKIER, RIGHT? THEY WERE DESIGNED A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

THE OTHER ONE HAS A SMALLER PROFILE.

SO IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A VISIBILITY ASPECT TO WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH PUTTING A GUARD ON STAND IN A HIGHER RAISED AREA, TO BE ABLE TO SEE AROUND THOSE AREAS, TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE NEED FOR FIVE GUARDS AND WE CAN GO DOWN TO FOUR GUARDS BECAUSE WE'VE ELIMINATED THAT PIECE.

WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, IF THEY'RE LOOKING ACROSS THERE, THEY WON'T SEE THE ENTIRE ASPECT OF THE POOL TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY DO THAT.

SO BUT YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT DOING SOME RENOVATIONS, THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SEE ABOUT LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, CREATING IT SO THAT THERE'S MORE VISIBILITY SO THAT THERE'S LESS LIFEGUARDS, WHICH IS THE LESSER COSTS GOING IN LIKE THAT.

AND I MEAN, IDEALLY LONG TERM FEASIBILITY, RIGHT, WOULD BE WE'D BE ABLE TO RENOVATE THE WHOLE THING AND TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO OKAY.

THANK YOU.

TALK ABOUT YOUR MOTION AGAIN.

ANY MOTIONS OUT THERE I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT I HAVE A MOTION BY TRAVIS TOWNSEND, SECOND BY GARY DICKEY TO TABLE THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. A CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE DISCUSSION ON CIP PRIORITIES FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND RECREATION CENTER AND ANGLETON

[3. Discussion on CIP priorities for Parks, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation divisions and parkland dedication spending plan for the fiscal year 2024-2025]

YES. GOOD EVENING ALL.

SO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF DO UPDATE OUR CIP PLAN.

THIS IS REGARDING AND REVOLVING AROUND ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO WE CAN ALWAYS ADD TO THESE IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE AND WE HAVE AND LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO PROJECTS ADDED THAT WE PUT AT THE END OF OUR PARKS AND PARKLAND DEDICATION SPEND PLAN AND I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT ATTACHMENT HERE SHORTLY.

BUT FIRST, I WANTED TO OUTLINE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT DOC HAS ALREADY APPROVED IN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE DEBT ISSUANCE, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON CURRENTLY.

WE HAD OUR KICKOFF MEETING TODAY WITH BURDETT FOR ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK AND FREEDOM PARK ACTIVE AREA.

THEY DID A SITE VISIT LAST WEEK, SO WE ARE COMMENCING WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS.

TEXIAN TRAIL DRAINAGE IS UNDER DESIGN CURRENTLY WITH HDR, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

AS JASON MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE THE CLAY COMPONENTS FOR THE NATATORIUM FEATURE.

WE ARE WAITING ON SCHEDULING INSTALLATION UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT, WHICH THEY'LL HAVE THEIR COMMISSION MEETING AT THE END OF JANUARY OF 2025 AND WE SHOULD HEAR FROM BOTH THE ABIGAIL, THE OUTDOOR GRANT WE FILED, AS WELL AS THE INDOOR GRANT AND THEN ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION ALSO AUTHORIZED A DEDICATION OF FUND BALANCE FOR ARC FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR, WHICH AMOUNTED TO 274,000.

IN ADDITION TO FUNDS FROM THEIR FUND BALANCE, 150,000 TO ACT AS PART OF THE MATCHING PORTION INFORMATION FOR THE DPW AND OR GRANT.

IF WE ARE NOT AWARDED THAT GRANT, WE WILL NOT UTILIZE EITHER OF THOSE FUNDS IN PARKLAND DEDICATION PROJECTS.

ITEMS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ARE FREEDOM PARK.

SHADE. CANOPY.

THIS WAS A COLLABORATION WITH ANGLETON ROTARY CLUB AND OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION.

CITY COUNCIL DID AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THAT, AND SO WE HAVE ALREADY PUT THE ORDER IN OCTOBER.

WE'RE WAITING ON DELIVERY AND INSTALLATION.

BATES PARK GIFT DEED.

THIS WAS FROM THE YANKTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY WERE.

THEY HAVE GIFTED OVER TO US A PARCEL OF LAND ADJACENT TO CURRENT BATES PARK FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY WAS CLOSING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLOSING ON THAT PARCEL.

DICKEY PARK LAND ACQUISITION.

IT'S A RIGHT OF WAY, AN ABANDONED RIGHT OF WAY IN DICKEY AND BATES PARK.

IT'S L-SHAPED AND WE ARE IN CONTRACT CURRENTLY.

WE JUST HAVE TO DELIVER THE EARNEST MONEY.

BUT ALL CLOSING COSTS WILL BE THE AT THE COST OF THE SELLER AND DOWNING.

TENNIS COURTS AND BATES PICKLEBALL COURT WERE RECENTLY JUST APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE DOWNING TENNIS COURT.

PAINTING OVER THOSE LINES AMOUNT TO $1,200.

WE WILL HAVE TO GET SOME UPDATED SIGNAGE, SO THAT'S WHY WE KEPT IT AT TBD UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THAT SIGNAGE COSTS WILL BE AND OF COURSE, THE BATES PARK PICKLEBALL

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SO WE DO HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN PARKLAND DEDICATION AMOUNTING TO AROUND 285,000, SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT WE DO HAVE IN THERE.

WE DID RECENTLY WHILE GOING THROUGH THE GIFTED WITH AISD, WE LEARNED THAT WE COULD UTILIZE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES FOR THINGS THAT REVOLVE AROUND PARK DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING LAND ACQUISITION AND CLOSING COSTS.

ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR A PARK OR DESIGN, ALL OF THOSE FEES CAN COME OUT OF PARKLAND DEDICATION AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE ALLUDED TO IT A LITTLE BIT AT OUR LAST ABLC MEETING, BUT IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE REALLY COULDN'T SPEAK TO IT AT THE TIME.

BUT WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO START REALLY BEING AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS ADDRESSING SOME OF THE AREAS WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS FOR PLANNING DOCUMENTS.

BUT PARKLAND DEDICATION WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

SO WE HAVE HERE ATTACHED SEVERAL DOCUMENTS REGARDING THE CIP.

SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR PAGES.

16 THROUGH ABOUT 15 ITEMS. SO WE'RE ALMOST WHAT IS THAT 31.

[INAUDIBLE]. SO MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE.

IF YOU JUMP DOWN TO PAGE 34.

WE DEVELOPED THIS PARKLAND DEDICATION.

IT'S NOT REALLY PARKLAND DEDICATION.

WE WERE ASKED PROBABLY, I GUESS IT WAS SOMETIME LAST YEAR TO DEVELOP A SPIN PLAN FOR THE $1.9 MILLION OF PARKLAND DEDICATION THAT WILL BE AWARDED TO US OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WITH ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS COMPREHENSIVELY, IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING PROVIDED BY THAT PARKLAND DEDICATION AND SO WE'VE COLOR CODED THOSE FOR YOU AS EITHER GENERAL FUND, PARKLAND DEDICATION 1.9 SPIN PLAN, OR A DLC.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS. ITEM SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, AND TEN.

I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FURTHER DOWN HERE.

MAYBE I TOOK IT OFF.

I'M NOT SURE. 11.

OKAY. YES.

THANK YOU. 11.

THROUGH EITHER GENERAL FUND APPROVAL, CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OR TRAILER OF THIS YEAR.

BEACH SOCCER COMPLEX LIGHTING AND FIELD LIGHTING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH A PVC BOND AND ARPA FUNDS.

ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK SCHEMATIC DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS ALL BEING TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH THE 2024 AVC DEBT ISSUANCE AND THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.

WE WERE INFORMED WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT THIS PAST SUMMER FOR WITH SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, AND WE WERE AWARDED AS SECOND ROUND RECIPIENTS, SO THAT WILL HELP US DEVELOP A MOBILITY MASTER PLAN OR TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IF YOU WILL.

THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE MULTI.

IT'S MULTI MODAL.

SO IT WILL INCLUDE TRAILS WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT OF COURSE.

AND SO WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED INFORMATION ABOUT CONTRACT EXECUTION.

SO THAT CONTRACT WILL BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE NEW YEAR AND WE WILL BE AWARDED A $175,000 IF WE EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN.

SO I WILL TAKE IT BACK TO THE AGENDA SUMMARY.

HOPEFULLY YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PACKET AND HOW THOSE CIP ITEMS WERE PRIORITIZED.

BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.

NO, ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN.

WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU IN THE NEW YEAR IN FEBRUARY.

BUT IF YOU HAVE IMMEDIATE INPUT ON ADJUSTING SOME ITEMS, THEIR NUMBERING, WHAT YOU FEEL ABLC IS AS A PRIORITY.

THEN WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO YOU SAID THAT THE GRANT THAT IS GOING IN FOR IF THEY MEET AT THE END OF JANUARY.

YES. THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE BOARD COMMISSION WILL MEET AT THE END OF JANUARY.

OKAY AND THEN WHEN THEY MEET, WHEN DO WE EXPECT WHAT'S THE TURNAROUND? WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO LET US KNOW SOMETHING.

SO WE SHOULD KNOW WHEN IT GOES TO THAT COMMISSION MEETING IF WE ARE BEING CONSIDERED ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR APPROVAL.

RIGHT. SO IF THAT IS APPROVED AT THAT MEETING, WE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND THEN IF WE SAY WE OPTIMISTICALLY WE DO GET

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THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

SO THE DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THE ARK AND ABIGAIL AREAS PARK WE HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.

REALISTICALLY THAT WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.

TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, THEY HAVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TO THEM, LIKE TOPO OF THE SITE.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABIGAIL AREAS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DESIGN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO THROUGH ALL THE PERMITTING STATE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AND SHOW PROOF THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT AND DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND SO WE WOULD BE WORKING ALONG DESIGN.

LIKE I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY KICKED OFF THE PROJECT, BUT THEY AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROJECT, WE HAVE DELIVERABLES FOR EXECUTE THAT PROJECT AND WE CANNOT CONSTRUCT ANYTHING OR PURCHASE ANYTHING UNTIL THOSE THE CHECKLIST ESSENTIALLY HAS BEEN EXECUTED AND THEY'VE APPROVED THE DESIGN AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THAT IS WHY THE NATATORIUM EQUIPMENT IS SITTING OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE CANNOT ACTIVATE INSTALL AND CONSTRUCTION UNTIL WE KNOW IF WE WANT THAT PROJECT TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE GRANT, WHICH IS WHAT WE SUBMITTED AND SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE IT? DO WE NOT? I MEAN, WE COULD PULL THE TRIGGER AND INSTALL THE PRODUCT, BUT WE'D BE LOSING $100,000 IN MATCHING AND INSTALLATION COSTS.

SO ESSENTIALLY $200,000.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HOLDING OFF ON ON THAT PROJECT.

RIGHT. AND SO AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS.

IF WE HAVE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THESE PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN THE GRANT GETS APPROVED, THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE OF SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE GRANT MONEY INSTEAD OF THIS MONEY.

IT'S NOT A YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT BEFORE YOU GET REIMBURSED.

RIGHT. SO WE'LL BE PUTTING THE MONEY UP FRONT ANYWAYS.

IT'S A REIMBURSABLE GRANT.

OKAY. GOT IT.

ALRIGHT, QUESTION I HAVE.

I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST HERE.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BG PEC GRADING? SO IT'S ON THERE.

I SAW IT. IT'S THERE.

YEAH. SO WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE CIP, WE JUST HAVE BG PEC PARK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS OUTLINED IN THE MASTER PLAN.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE SPIN PLAN ON PAGE 34.

I REALIZED THAT I DIDN'T REMEMBER THESE AS THEY WERE REORGANIZED.

SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT IS.

SECOND GRADE.

GREAT. PAGE 35.

SECOND GRADE BOX.

SO WE HAVE THE GRADING AND DESIGN.

SO THE GRADING THAT IS ALREADY I SHOULD HAVE MARKED THAT OUT.

I SHOULD HAVE SLASHED THROUGH THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDING.

THAT'S BEEN AN APPROVED PROJECT.

HDR HAS THE SCOPE OF WORK DEVELOPED TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THAT? THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND FUNDING FOR THAT HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THAT AMOUNT IS $32 MILLION.

YEAH, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE EXPECTING THAT TO POSSIBLY COME IN A LOT LOWER THAN $2 MILLION.

NO I DON'T.

SO THAT IS IF YOU WERE TO DO SO FOR BG SOCCER COMPLEX, IF WE DO A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT PARK, WE HAVE ADA ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES.

ONCE YOU PUT OUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PLAYGROUND THERE.

WE HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO THAT LOCATION, BUT ALL OF THE FIELDS, WE DO NOT HAVE A WALKING PATH TO GET TO SOME OF THOSE FIELDS.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPREHENSIVELY THE PLAN FOR THE OVERALL PARK, THAT'S WHAT THAT NUMBER IS FOR.

THE AND I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT SEEING IT ON HERE.

MY ONLY THOUGHT IS THAT IT IS.

YEAH. BECAUSE THAT SAYS CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

WELL, ANYWAY, I THINK IF HDR IS GOING TO COME BACK AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING PLANS, WHAT'S THE REALISTIC BECAUSE LET'S SAY WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH PLANS, YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AT ALL.

YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, JOHN? IF MY QUESTION, BECOMES, BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING INTO THE OFF SEASON, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, WE NEED TO START MOVING.

YES, IT NEEDS TO BE.

WE NEED TO BE BREAKING GROUND.

LIKE AND IT HASN'T EVEN GONE OUT TO BID.

WE DON'T HAVE. I KNOW THAT'S MY POINT.

WE NEED TO BE MOVING.

I FEEL LIKE THE PROCESS IS MOVING VERY SLOWLY.

WELL, AND HERE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ANALYSIS PARALYSIS ISSUE.

IT REALLY ISN'T. WE HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK.

WE'RE WAITING ON HDR TO PROVIDE THAT DESIGN FOR US, SO WE'RE NOT AT IT.

WHAT'S THE REALISTIC EXPECTATION OF HDR PRESENTING THAT WIN.

SO WE I FOLLOWED UP WITH JOHN LAST WEEK ON SETTING UP A MEETING, AND WE ARE PLANNING ON MEETING TODAY SO I CAN GET A TIMELINE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE PUSHY, I JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING INTO THE OFF SEASON FOR SOCCER, WHERE IF THERE'S A TIME YOU'RE GOING TO DECONSTRUCT SOCCER FIELDS, IT'S

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I DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENING THIS YEAR AND IF WE WERE HOPING, I MEAN, SURE, BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU DON'T HAVE YOU AS IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, ABLC FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, DON'T HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS TO SUPPORT WORK TO BE DONE.

SO WE HAVE THE FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR THE DESIGN.

THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE REMAINING FROM THE BG SOCCER COMPLEX LIGHTING, WHICH YOU ALLOCATED $250,000 FOR 176, WENT TOWARDS THE ACTUAL LIGHTING AND INSTALLATION. THE REMAINING AMOUNT WAS USED FOR THE DESIGN OF THE GRADING, SO THAT IF WE GO OUT TO BID, WE HAVE BIDS COME IN THAT'S GOING TO TELL US WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS, BUT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

RIGHT, BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE], AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING IS ONE, ONE FIELD.

WE JUST IT JUST I THOUGHT WE WERE SITTING HERE KIND OF HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION LAST YEAR.

AT LEAST A SIMILAR ONE.

SIMILAR. CAN WE CHANGE THE PRIORITY OF THE FIELD AND THE CHANGE OF THE LIGHTING? NO. RIGHT.

WELL WE'RE NOT DEBATING THAT.

YEAH. IT'S NOT THAT I MEAN YOU ASK, IF YOU DON'T WANT MY OPINION, THEN I'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST IS.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO BE REALISTIC WITH WHERE WE CAME FROM AND HOW WE'RE AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

IT IS OF NO LACK OF TEACHERS OR STAFF.

THIS IS A MOVING PROJECT.

SO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T WE'RE NOT AT A YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A STALE, BACKLOGGED PROJECT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, HDR IS READY TO PRESENT AND ROLL OUT A BID SCHEDULE, PUBLISH SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE PROPOSED QUOTES IN.

AGAIN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING DEDICATED AT THE TIME.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BID IS THAT IN THAT BID, WE WOULD HAVE IT ITEMIZED BY FIELD NUMBER, SO THAT IF YOU FIND THAT ONE CAN BE ADDRESSED, THAT WE CAN PURSUE THAT. BUT THE AGREEMENT JUST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN ITSELF WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL NOT TOO LONG AGO.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS WE ARE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

WELL, I NO.

THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

YOU KNOW IF IT IN THE END, THERE'S NOT A FUNDING MECHANISM TO ENACT WHATEVER HDR IS ABLE TO GENERATE, THEN, OKAY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW.

IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING.

I WE HAVE ALL THAT DIRT SITTING THERE.

WE HAVE HOLES ALL OUT IN THAT PARK.

WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED ANY OF THAT.

WE'VE GOT RUTS.

I'LL TELL YOU, THERE ARE RUTS BETWEEN WHERE THE LITTLE ONES, THE U5 AND ALL THE WAY UP TO U11, U12 THE FIELDS IN THE VERY BACK THAT WE JUST LIT UP.

WHEN YOU WALK TO IT, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO FALL AND BREAK THEIR LEG BECAUSE OF THE RUTS ARE SO BAD OUT THERE.

BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THAT.

WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE SOME OF THAT DIRT AND GO FIX IT? THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

WHY DID WE TAKE THE BRIDGE OUT? BECAUSE IT WASN'T ADA COMPLIANT, BUT WE DIDN'T REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING.

SO NOW IT'S EVEN WORSE FOR ADA BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT ALL THE WAY AROUND AND COMING RIGHT BACK THROUGH WHERE ALL THE RUTS ARE TO GET BACK OVER THERE.

I GET THE BRIDGE WAS WRONG, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE REPLACED THE BRIDGE, NOT JUST LEFT IT THERE.

BUT IF YOU PUT IN, IF YOU REMOVE AN ITEM AND REPLACE IT WITH AN ADA COMPLIANT ITEM, IT YOU CAN'T DO IT.

YOU CAN'T DO IT PIECEMEAL. IT HAS TO BE A PATHWAY.

SO IF YOU WANT TO INVEST IN US, PROVIDE A QUOTE FOR CONCRETE THAT GOES FROM THAT BRIDGE CROSSING TO THE PAVILION OR TO A SOCCER FIELD, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION.

SO BY TAKING OUT THE BRIDGE THAT WAS THERE, WE BASICALLY HANDCUFFED OURSELVES.

KNOW WHAT WE DID WAS WE MADE IT ADA COMPLIANT.

SO WHERE THE ADA PARKING IS, WE HAVE ADA OFFLOAD ZONES AND AN ADA SAFETY STRIP IN FRONT OF THOSE AREAS THAT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE PAVILION TO MAKE THAT PARK ADA COMPLIANT, WHICH IT WAS NOT BEFORE.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S FINE IF WE GOT TO WAIT ANOTHER.

WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS TILL WE GET THE MONEY, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I THINK THE LAST TIME WE APPROVED THESE COS THERE WAS EVEN POSSIBILITY. NOW, I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE TO TALK TO JOE ABOUT POTENTIALLY AGAIN THIS COMING YEAR, ISSUING MORE DEBT.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE WISE DECISION, BUT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF DOING THAT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO EXPLORE.

IF IT'S NOT THIS CALENDAR OR THIS FISCAL YEAR, LOOKING AT ROLLING THAT INTO A PROJECT FOR IN THE, I GUESS, THE 26TH.

SURE. BUT TO GET THE FUNDING MECHANISM, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE'LL NEED TO FUND AS WELL.

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I'M NOT TRYING TO PRETEND, BUT WE DO.

WE DID GO GET THAT DIRT.

WE ARE HOUSING IT, AND WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ESSENTIALLY SUCKING IT BACK IN AS IT FLOATS DOWN OUR DITCHES AND, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I JUST WOULD RATHER.

I KNOW IT'S NOT THE BEST DIRT.

WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION TOO, BUT IT CAN STILL BE UTILIZED ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S.

I KNOW WHERE WE ARE. THANK YOU.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATES ON WHAT THE COST WOULD BE? HDR HAS PROVIDED AN ESTIMATE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION.

PAGE 25 IS A OUTLINE OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE GRADING WILL COST.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS ITEMIZED.

BUT THEY HAD PROJECTED THAT IT WAS GOING TO COST 328,000, ALMOST 329,000 FOR GRADING OF THE COMPLEX. OKAY.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHADE STRUCTURES AT DICKEY OR AT BATES PARK FOR THE SOFTBALL FIELDS? THAT'S ON THE SPIN PLAN BECAUSE IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND IT IN ONE OF THESE SPREADSHEETS.

WELL, ACTUALLY, I MAY HAVE DEVELOPED ONE AT THE VERY END.

LET'S SEE. I DID SEE IT IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

I SAW I DON'T THINK IT'S IN A SPREADSHEET, BUT IT'S IN THIS.

IS THAT THE BAIT SHADE COVERINGS? THE VERY LAST ONE? YES. DIDN'T WE SPEND, LIKE, 25 AT FREEDOM? NO, SIR.

HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND AT FREEDOM ON THOSE FOUR? I. IT WASN'T 80.

I. IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE, ACTUALLY.

IT MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN MORE.

BUT. YES.

WELL, THAT IS A RECENT QUOTE WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO GET IS THAT INCLUDING THE STRUCTURE? RIGHT. SO THAT'S PROBABLY I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE THAT ALUMINUM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT METAL ALLOY IT IS, BUT SOME SORT OF IT'S STEEL.

SO BUT SO WE DO STILL HAVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE ADDRESSED BY AGAIN, WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS HERE, WHETHER IT BE GENERAL FUND ABC 1.9 SPEND PLAN, PARKLAND DEDICATION.

I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CAN PURSUE.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

SO AND THAT'S WHAT, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SEEK INPUT ON IS WHAT'S THE BATES PARK PARKING LOT? SO THAT IS THAT AREA TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL PARKING.

SO THE ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT THERE TO THE SIDE.

WELL, THE IF YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR WE DID A LOT OF WORK ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THE NEW CULVERT THAT WE INSTALLED AND COVERED WAS RATED FOR VEHICLES. IT IS NOT.

BUT IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE REFERRING TO.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S REFERRING TO. RIGHT.

I DO WANT TO BRING BACK ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY THE LAST MEETING, WAS, AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS.

I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BATES AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

THIS COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY FOR BATES, BUT SOME OF OUR OTHER UNDEVELOPED PARKS, AND TO WORK ON THOSE DOCUMENTS SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS OF ESTIMATED PROBABLE COST TO BEGIN WORKING ON DEVELOPING AND CREATING MORE OF A STRATEGIC PLAN RELATED TO THIS SPEND PLAN AND HOW YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE THAT.

WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS NEW BATES PARCEL, THIS COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THAT AS A DOCUMENT THAT WE PURSUE SOON.

I SAY THAT TOO, I THINK IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

MAYBE IT WAS SOMETIME THIS SUMMER.

I SENT CHRIS AN EMAIL AND I BELIEVE OUR PARKS BOARD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE OPPORTUNITY OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT TOURNAMENTS COMING IN.

STATE TOURNAMENTS AT THIS COMPLEX.

THEY HAD HOPES OF HAVING AN ADDITIONAL FIELD AT THIS COMPLEX, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS ALLOCATED, NOR DO WE HAVE A PLAN TO WORK OFF OF AND SO UTILIZING PARKLAND DEDICATION COULD REALLY BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD PURSUE TO EVEN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO I KNOW, HAVE WE FINALIZED THAT WE OWN THE LAND YET? WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK SO.

WE WERE WAITING ON SIGNATURES AND WE ARE ALSO, I THINK OUR WIRE TRANSFER IS STILL PENDING AND WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN EITHER IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS AFTERNOON OR TOMORROW MORNING. OKAY.

SINCE WE'VE SIGNED ON OUR SIDE.

CORRECT. THANK YOU.

JOHN. I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

I MEAN, YEAH.

ANYWAY. DO YOU ALL SEE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO THE LIST OR

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I'M SURE EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN FEEL ABOUT THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE SOCCER FIELD AND THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND AND SUCH WITH BASS PARK AND ALL THAT.

BUT IT LOOKS PRETTY COMPLETE TO ME AS FAR AS LIKE USING, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES FOR PLANNING FOR THAT.

I MEAN, WHY NOT? I WILL, I WILL SAY, I GUESS THAT IF IT'S PRESENTED THAT WAY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD A SOFTBALL FIELD, IF THAT PRESENTS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GENERATE MORE TOURNAMENTS, WHICH IN TURN GENERATES MORE REVENUE AND TAXES, MAY WANT TO MOVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP.

AND I KNOW SIMILAR MEASURES HAVE STARTED.

THEY'VE STARTED RUNNING TOURNAMENTS OUT AT FREEDOM.

RIGHT. AND I'VE HEARD POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND WE'RE IN THE OFF SEASON SOME OF THE TURNOUT FOR THESE TOURNAMENTS AGAIN, SHOULD HELP US REFLECT IN OUR TAXES.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING AGAIN TO WHERE WE MAY WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE MONEY TO GET A LITTLE MONEY.

IT JUST MAY BE A AS FAR AS PRIORITIZING MATTERS IN THE FUTURE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T HAVE.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THOSE NEED TO GO TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.

I'M JUST SAYING IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME TO TURN AROUND AND GET SOMETHING BACK.

ANYWAY, FOOD FOR THOUGHT AND THAT IS WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.

IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR PLAN ON PRIORITIZATION, THE ONES THAT ARE PRIORITIZED ARE ALREADY FUNDED.

SPECIFICALLY, I'M TALKING ABOUT PARKS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT HEADERS RELATED TO ADA ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND PARKS.

SO I BELIEVE ABIGAIL OR AND ALSO DRAINAGE.

ABIGAIL AREAS PARK IS YOUR FIRST PRIORITY.

SECOND PARK PRIORITY BEING FREEDOM ACTIVE AREA, WHICH WE'RE ALREADY ACTIVELY WORKING ON AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOUR THIRD PRIORITY BE PAID STICKY MASTER PLAN BECAUSE OF THAT REASON.

SO WE HAVE $285,000 WORTH OF INSIDE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.

SO I'M LIKE, I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD USE PORTIONS OF THAT FOR PLANNING.

AND SO I THINK THE THING IS, I THINK WE'RE VERY HESITANT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME OF IT, BUT IT TAKES THE SPENDING DOWN TO SPENDING MONEY TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY. SO I JUST THINK IT'S JUST PART OF LIKE GROWTH.

SO I'M ALL FOR WHATEVER WAY WE GO.

BUT HEY, IF MONEY'S FOR PARKLAND, LET'S USE IT.

I MEAN, I THINK, LIKE YOU SAY, PRIORITIZING DOWN TO NUMBER THREE FOR BASS PARK.

THAT'S FINE. I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO A WORKOUT OF THIS FOR THE ABLC AT MAYBE THE NEXT, THE NEXT ABLC MEETING.

INTERACTIVELY, WE SIT DOWN TOGETHER.

WE TALK ABOUT THE EACH PARK AND THE PRIORITIES FOLLOWING THIS LIST.

OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE? WE GO THROUGH WE WORK THIS OUT.

WE GET PARKS BOARD TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND LET'S MELD THEM TOGETHER.

FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO PRIORITIZE THIS WHAT FUNDING SOURCES AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL ON PAPER AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

THERE'S THE ONE THING I'LL SAY THAT I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN DO MORE OF IS THERE'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT CONSTANTLY NEED TO BE IMPROVED IN THE PARKS, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES THEY GET ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR HAVE WE GOT OUR SHADE STRUCTURE BACK UP AT FREEDOM? WELL THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON.

INSTALL. IT'S BEEN ORDERED.

SO IT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER.

WE'RE WAITING ON IT BEING DELIVERED AND INSTALLED.

LOOK, WHERE DID WE GO WITH PURPLE OKAY.

I'M SHOCKED. YEAH.

JUST HOW OFTEN WE YOU KNOW, THINGS BREAK IN OUR PARKS, AND WE REALLY WANT TO.

WE NEED TO KEEP EVOLVING THE PARKS, KEEP IT INTERESTING AND KEEP IT INTERACTIVE FOR THE KIDS.

BECAUSE IF IT'S THE SAME THING THEY GO TO EVERY SINGLE TIME, THEY GET BORED.

SO YOU WANT US TO HAVE LIKE A CONTINGENCY FUND? I'D LIKE TO SEE ABLC START LOOKING AT WHAT? THE SMALL STUFF. THERE'S SOME STUFF IN THIS LIST THAT REALISTICALLY, WE PROBABLY COULD FUND IN OUR BUDGET.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT IT'S CONSTANT TO ME.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A MAINTENANCE FEE OR A FUND THAT WHERE YOU WOULD NOT SO MUCH A MAINTENANCE WRITE DOWN, BUT ALSO CHANGING OUT THINGS.

SO LIKE CHANGING OUT THE AGE OF A PLAYGROUND AT MASTERSON IS FALLING DOWN.

WHAT'S THE PLAN TO CHANGE? WE DO HAVE AN EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN.

WE HAVE THAT. REALLY LOOK AT THAT AND HOW THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BY ABLC TOO.

OKAY. THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THIS AT THIS PARK.

AND THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AT THIS PARK.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GET COMPREHENSIVE ON THIS AND REALLY START LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY SO WE CAN START PUTTING DOLLARS TO CENTS EACH BUDGET CYCLE.

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WE ALL HAVE OUR DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.

IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD FOR ALL OF US TO COME UP WITH BOTH.

BUT YOU GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER ONE, I'LL GIVE YOU MY NUMBER ONE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, NUMBER ONE WINS, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I THINK BUILDING A CONSENSUS, UNLESS IT'S JUST NOT PUNCHING THE FACE OBVIOUS, IS GOING TO BE HARD TO DO.

ONE OTHER THING THAT I'LL MENTION, TOO, IS WE TRY AGAIN.

LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THESE ITEMS ARE BASED ON THE MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH ARE COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM YOUR CITIZENRY AND SO THIS ISN'T JUST A WE THREW TOGETHER WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS MOST IMPORTANT.

THIS IS BASED ON WHAT THE PLAN HAD IDENTIFIED AS A SHORT TERM, MID-TERM AND LONG TERM GOAL FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

AND THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN AS CLOSELY AS TO WHAT THE CITIZEN INPUT WAS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS HAVE COME TO THE TOP AND WANT TO BE REORGANIZED.

AND I TOTALLY RESPECT ABLC AND PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD WANTING TO COME TOGETHER TO MAYBE REPRIORITIZE THAT.

I WOULD JUST SAY, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE AND BE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE SHORT TERM, MID-TERM AND LONG TERM GOALS OF THE MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR CITIZEN INPUT.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT US BECAUSE WE'RE THROWING AT YOU DIFFERENT PARKS.

WE'RE HITTING YOU WITH PICK AND WE'RE HITTING WITH BASS PARK.

FREEDOM PARK. SO IT'S COMING FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ABOUT OUR CONCERNS WITH DIFFERENT PARKS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE EVERYTHING LINED OUT LINE ITEM BY LINE, ITEM ONE AFTER THE OTHER.

SO I THINK MAYBE NEXT TIME WE'LL MEET, MAYBE METHODICALLY, WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AND GO PARK AND PARK AND PARK AND PARK, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GETTING JUST THROWING IT AT YOU.

BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT IT.

IS THAT BEST FOR JUST METHODICALLY HAVE IT OR JUST RANDOMLY THROW IT OUT AT YOU.

WELL, WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN TO A WORKSHOP OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO.

I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO PUT THIS IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT, MUCH TO WHAT JOHN WAS ALLUDING TO.

WE CAN DO BASICALLY LIKE A FISCAL YEAR COLUMN, AND THEN HAVE THESE PRIORITIES ON THE SIDE SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE FINANCIAL DOLLARS YEAR OVER YEAR. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN IN PLACE.

WE HAVE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, PARK EQUIPMENT THAT WE WANT.

WE HAVE RECREATION CENTER EQUIPMENT AND NEEDS.

SO WE HAVE THOSE THINGS IF YOU JUST WANT TO SEE THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY, RATHER THAN US COMING TO YOU ALL YEAR AFTER YEAR SAYING, THIS IS WHAT IS ON OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY THIS YEAR AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING ON OUR CIP, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

SO YOU CAN GET A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW IS WHAT I'M HEARING IS MORE HELPFUL.

OKAY AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT ARE YOU WANTING TOO? IS THERE A CONSENSUS OF A WORKSHOP OF PRIORITIZING, OR DO YOU WANT TO SEE THIS SPREADSHEET FIRST? LET'S SEE THE SPREADSHEET.

THE SPREADSHEET. YEAH.

YEAH I AGREE LET'S.

YOU GOT IT. [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOP.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A I DON'T THINK YOU GOT TO BE READY TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.

WE WON'T BE READY TO HAVE A WORKSHOP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA WE NEED THE DATA THAT WE THINK WOULD HELP US MOVE THROUGH THE WORKSHOP A LITTLE FASTER.

SURE. YOU GOT IT.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? APRIL? MAYBE.

[INAUDIBLE]. THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OTHER STUFF GOING.

IT'S NOT LIKE. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THEN I GUESS WE WILL ADJOURN AT 6:54PM

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.