>> IT IS 6:01 TONIGHT AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YO AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTENING ONLINE.
HOPEFULLY, YOU GET SOMETHING OUT OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE. IF YOU'LL ALL PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE AND THE INVOCATION.
>> LET'S PRAY. LORD GOD, WE THANK YOU AGAIN THAT YOU LOVE US, THAT YOU CARE FOR US.
FATHER, THANK YOU THAT WE COULD CALL ON YOU AT ANY TIME.
WE CALL ON YOU TONIGHT, FATHER, TO GIVE US YOUR WISDOM, WATCH OVER US, GUIDE US, DIRECT US.
HELP US BE FOCUSED ON THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY, THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
FATHER, I PRAY FOR EVERYONE THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY IN WHATEVER CAPACITY.
THANK YOU FOR THEM IN THEIR EFFORTS.
FATHER, WE PRAY FOR THE UPCOMING WEATHER.
WE SEE IT'S GOING TO BE THE COLD, FATHER WE JUST PRAY FOR PROTECTION OF YOUR PEOPLE HERE IN TOWN, AND THOSE WHO HAVE TO BE OUT IN THE ELEMENTS.
FATHER, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR A NEW YEAR, NEW START EVERY DAY.
WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN.
>> I HAVE TWO SISTERS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
MISS MAYES AND MR. MYERS, DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THAT 17 TALK THEN? ANY OTHERS, MICHELLE?
>> MOVING ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.
[1. Presentation of employee service award. ]
I HAVE NUMBER 1 PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARD. [INAUDIBLE]>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TONIGHT, WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CORPORAL CARLOS COBOS FOR FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT. [APPLAUSE]
>> MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20250114-002, THE SURPLUS OF TWO ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250114-003, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, CHAPTER 9, GARBAGE AND REFUSE COLLECTION RATE, REVISING AND PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE RATES TO BE CHARGED FOR SOLID WASTE COLLECTION, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES.
ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON MODEL HOME PARK CLEARING ALL REFERRAL AGENCY CONDITIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON SECTION 1 TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON SECTION 2 TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS REGARDING REFERRAL AGENCY APPROVALS.
ITEM NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE ASHTON CORAL HAVENS LANE STREET DEDICATION TO CLEAR ALL REFERRAL AGENCY CONDITIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON STREET DEDICATION, SECTION 1, AND RESERVES TO REMOVE ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT OF ASHTON STREET DEDICATION, SECTION 2, CLEARING ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHTON STREET DEDICATION, SECTION 3, TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 11, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON DEVELOPMENT WATER PLANT TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL BY COUNCIL.
ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON UTILITY AND LIFT STATION RESERVE FOR 0.23 ACRES OF LAND, CONTAINING TWO RESERVES AND ONE BLOCK FOR
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UTILITY PURPOSES OUT OF THE SHUBAEL MARSH SURVEY, A-81 AND A-82, BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS, AS SUBMITTED BY ASHTON GRAY DEVELOPMENT TO REMOVE ALL REFERRAL AGENCY CONDITIONS.ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON DEVELOPMENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL BY COUNCIL.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU PULL ITEM NUMBER, I'M GOING TO GO WITH 5.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER 5.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS?
>> HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT 5 AND 6.
I HAVE A QUESTION I JUST DON'T [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR MOTION?
>> I HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION AND A SECOND AMENDED MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? CALL FOR THE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN? MOTION CARRIES.
WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 5 AND ITEM NUMBER 6,
[Items 5 & 6]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON SECTION 1 TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS OF THE AUGUST 22, 2023 APPROVAL AND ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHTON SECTION 2, TO CLEAR ALL CONDITIONS REGARDING REFERRAL AGENCY APPROVALS. NOTICE.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE FINAL PLAT, SAYS YOU STATED FOR SECTIONS 1 AND SECTION 2, WHICH ARE THE MAIN FIRST SECTIONS BESIDES THE MODEL HOME IN WHICH ASHTON IS READY TO BASICALLY BOOT GROUND ON THE SUBDIVISION.
ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS OR WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU OR OF THE EXHIBITS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE LETTERS OF NO OBJECTION FROM EITHER BRAZORIA COUNTY WHO HAS APPROVED THE DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS AS IT RELATES TO CERTAIN PARTICULAR SECTIONS THAT WOULD COVER ALL OF THESE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
WE ALSO PROVIDED YOU THE LETTER THAT THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT HAS PULLED BACK ON THEIR CONCERNS OR COMMENTS, AND WE GAVE YOU ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS ON THAT AS WELL.
FOR THESE SECTIONS THAT FEED OFF OF ANY STATE RIGHT OF WAYS, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO WHAT'S BEING SUBMITTED BY THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FOR CORE HAVEN, WHICH TIES INTO IT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, BRAZORIA COUNTY WOULD COVER ANY OF THE BOULEVARD-STYLE STREETS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
YOU HAVE THOSE LETTERS IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT PARTICULAR RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG ANGLETON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS ONE OF THE STREET DEDICATIONS.
OTHER THAN THAT, I TRIED TO GIVE YOU ALL OF THE HISTORY IN TERMS OF WHEN THE PLATS CAME BEFORE YOU, WHETHER OR NOT SOME OF THEM GOT WITHDRAWN FOR REASONS OF THE AGENCIES THAT WE KEPT REFERRING TO BECAUSE THESE ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR LIBERTY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DO.
NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE LEVELS ATTACHED, CITY ENGINEER FELT COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEN THEY WOULD, OF COURSE, MOVE TOWARDS FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT APPROVALS, AND WE WILL COORDINATE THE WHOLE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
THEY HAVE BEEN ALSO INVITING US TO ALL OF THE PRE-DEVELOPED PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING SO WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, AND THE CITY ENGINEER DOES HAVE A LEVEL OF INSPECTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AS WELL.
I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> MY SINGLE QUESTION IS, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION IN THE PAST ABOUT ORIENTING THAT FIRE STATION OUT THERE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S IN SECTIONS 1 AND 2.
>> YES, SIR. THERE IS A DOCUMENT OUT THERE.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO DEFER THAT CONVERSATION FOR NEXT MEETING BECAUSE YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, THE LOCATIONS OF THE FIRE STATION.
ONE IS ON 521, BUT THEY'RE GIVING YOU A SECOND ALTERNATIVE LOCATION IN WHICH YOU CAN SEE OFF OF THE MAIN FOUR LANE BOULEVARD.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL DISCUSS WITH YOU ON NEXT MEETING.
THAT WOULD LEAVE DIRECTLY ONTO A [OVERLAPPING] CONNECTION ROAD THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WITH THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, PRETTY MUCH BLAST IT.
THAT WOULD GIVE YOU FREE ACCESS.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, [INAUDIBLE] MY FIRST ITEM NUMBER 4 WOULD BE THE PAGE 2 ALPHABET SOMETHING.
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THEN THAT WAY THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE IT AS WELL.I'M SORRY, MY NUMBERS MAY BE A LITTLE OFF, BUT CAN YOU ZOOM INTO THE CENTER OF THAT MAP? AS YOU SEE THE FIRE STATION SECOND SITE PROPOSED AT THE 2.1 ACRES OFF OF THE MAIN BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD LEAD YOU STRAIGHT INTO 521 OFF OF THE BOULEVARD AS WELL AS THE PETER ROAD.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUSTIFY THIS OPTION, I WOULD PREFER HIM TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU BECAUSE THEY FORM THE PRESENTED TO YOU.
BUT THAT'S WHEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT ON IN TWO WEEKS WITH YOU.
>> WELL, I ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
>> THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL, THIS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY, IS AN OPTION.
>> PROBLEM IS THAT IT STILL SHOWS THAT IT'S COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF SET CALLED OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> IT SAYS FIRE STATION 2 ACRES, RIGHT OFF OF 288. CAN YOU GUYS SEE IT?
>> OFF 288. I SEE IT WAY BACK.
>> YES, SIR. YOUR OTHER OPTION WAS RIGHT BELOW SECTION 1 RIGHT OFF 521.
THAT SITE WASN'T AS CLEAN, BUT THEY WILL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
>> GOT YOU. MY QUESTION IS AROUND THE DRAINAGE.
I KNOW IT'S THE COUNTY'S DRAINAGE, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT ABOUT THE LEVY AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THE LEVY.
>> YES, SIR. THAT SETTLEMENT IS ATTACHED, AND THEY'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE APPLICANT IN THE SETTLEMENT.
YOU HAVE THAT IN THE ATTACHMENT.
THE APPLICANT TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
>> COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
>> JUST ASKING YOU PROFESSIONALLY, FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION RIGHT HERE.
>> YES, SIR. PROFESSIONALLY, I THINK WE'RE AT THE GOOD POINT OF OPENING UP THIS DEVELOPMENT IN A VERY RESPONSIBLE WAY.
MAKE SURE THEY'RE HOLDING TO THEIR PROMISES OF THE DA, AND WE'RE TRACKING EVERY COMPONENT OF IT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK TOWARDS THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
THEY ARE APPLYING FOR ALL OF THEIR PERMITS AS A STATED SITE PLAN, WHICH HAS TO RUN THROUGH THAT APPROVAL THROUGHOUT CITY ENGINEER AND OTHERS, AND WE'RE MAKING SURE WE COORDINATE THAT.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 5 AND 6.
>> HAVING A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS NUMBER 5 AND 6.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
>> UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS.
[14. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20250114 014 approving a request to amend the Zoning Map from MFR-29, Multi-family Residential District to PD, Planned Development Overlay District, with a base LI- Light Industrial District for an RV/Boat parking use on approximately 2.359 acres (Part of Property ID: 171030), for property located at the rear of 105 Cemetery Rd., Angleton, Brazoria County, Texas. ]
ITEM NUMBER 14, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250114-014, APPROVING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP FROM MFR-29, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT, WITH THE BASE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT FOR AN RV BOAT PARKING USE ON APPROXIMATELY 2.359 ACRES, PART OF PROPERTY ID 171030 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE REAR OF 105 CEMETERY ROAD, ANGLETON, MISSOURI COUNTY, TEXAS.>> THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THAT ITEM ON THE SCREEN.
>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOUR REQUEST FOR OUR REZONING PETITION.
THIS CAME BEFORE YOU IN YOUR LAST MEETING, AS YOU RECALL, ON 105 CEMETERY ROAD.
THE APPLICANT DID AGREE WITH WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING IN TERMS OF A PLANNED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT.
WE SO ADVERTISED IT AS SUCH, SENT OUT THE NOTICES AGAIN, AND THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS YOU SEE THE NOTED CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU WOULD ADVANCE THE SLIDE.
THEY ALSO DID A ROUGH LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSAL.
IT HAS NOT BEEN BLESSED, BUT IT HAS TO GO BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
WE WILL WORK OUT ANY ACCESS MANAGEMENT ISSUES, ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL IN TERMS OF BUFFERING, SCREENING, FENCING.
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THE FACT THAT THEY CANNOT USE IT FOR OVERNIGHT DWELLING PURPOSES IS PARTICULARLY FOR THE STORAGE.THAT'S BEING BROUGHT HERE WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION UNANIMOUSLY BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR YOU TO ACT OFFICIALLY ON THIS REZONING.
FROM MF29 MULTIFAMILY TO PD WITH THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BASE DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE.
THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CONDITIONS OF THE ORDINANCE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I MAKE A MOTION OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> DID WE LEAVE IT OPEN LAST TIME?
>> I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT I DO RECALL IT WAS REFERRED TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AS A PD.
I WOULD OPEN A NEW PUBLIC HEARING SINCE WE ADVERTISE A NEW PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON, FOR, OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION.
ONE MORE TIME. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON, FOR, OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
NOW, COUNCIL, WE GET TO TAKE ACTION.
>> I MOVE [INAUDIBLE] TO ZONING.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTON FOR APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?
>> YES. MY QUESTIONS ARE, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED?
IF HE SAYS REZONING, THAT INCLUDES THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE PROCEEDED?
>> THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
OFFICIALLY REZONING THIS PROPERTY AS SUCH WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS INCLUDED.
BUT IT WOULD BE THE ORDINANCE IN FULL, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
>> PLANNING COMMISSION SITE PLAN PROVISION IS IN THE ORDINANCE.
>> RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL COVERED.
>> I WILL REFER TO THAT ORDINANCE NUMBER.
>> MY QUESTION ON THIS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.
THERE'S A HOUSE OFF ON THE SIDE OVER THERE, AND WE HAVE A NEW PARK GOING IN OVER THERE.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN LET DOWN BEFORE WHEN WE HAD SOMEBODY COME IN AND WE SAID, ITEM NUMBER 4 ON THE CONDITIONS, WHERE IT SAYS EIGHT-FOOT WOOD OR MASONRY PERIMETER FENCING.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY EXPLICIT IN EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE IF YOU SAY WOOD OR MASONRY, THEN THEY SHOULD GO WITH THE WOOD FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND IT FALLS DOWN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, WHICH WE'VE SEEN IN SOME OF OUR NEW SUBDIVISIONS.
I'M NOT FOOLISH TO THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT OF IF IT'S CHEAPEST, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING WITH.
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW OUT SOMETHING THERE FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING IT THERE.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A FINAL PLAT COMING TO US WITH APPROVALS?
>> THERE WOULD BE A PLAT, BUT IT WOULD BE A MINOR PLAT, SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T COME TO YOU, IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE ADMINISTRATIVE.
THERE'S A SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT IN WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS LIBERTY TO ADD ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE THAT ORDINANCE STAND ADHERE TO.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD PREMIUM FENCING TO THE WOOD DESCRIPTION WITH ANY OTHER THE CAVEAT, KYLE AND I WOULD MAKE SURE WHEN THEY PUT THAT FENCE PERMIT OR WHEN THEY PROVIDE US DETAILS ON THAT FENCE, IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING.
>> I WANT MASONRY ANCHORS, IS WHAT I WANT.
BY LOOKING AT THAT, ON THE CORNERS, I WANT MASONRY, AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE, THEY CAN HAVE WOOD.
>> COULD THEY DO MASONRY PILASTERS AT THE CORNERS?
>> WE CAN DO THAT. OR IF YOU WANT INTERMEDIATE IN ANY OF THE MORE BOUNDARY AREAS, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
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>> WE'VE GOT THAT BRAND NEW PART GOING IN RIGHT THERE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THIS AREA.
>> I WOULD SAY ON THE PERIMETER FACING EAST AND SOUTH, IF THAT'S OKAY, THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THEY DO THE INTERMEDIATE COLUMN, COLONNADES, AS WELL AS ON ALL CORNERS, 90-DEGREE TURN.
>> YOU SAID 90% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
>> THAT IS JUST A REQUIREMENT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
BUT THEY HAVE TO DO STORM WATER DETENTION, LANDSCAPING, SO IT WON'T APPROACH 90%.
>> NO. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT'S JUST A LIMITATION JUST TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE DOES NOT OVER-DENSIFY A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE.
WITH THIS ONE, EVEN WITH A PARKING LOT, YOU STILL HAVE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES PER PARKING SPACE.
>> ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AND THIS MAY GO TO MR. RANDALL.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A PLAT OF PROPERTY DIRECTLY BEHIND IT TO THE NORTH.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY EASEMENT RESTRICTIONS.
I'M SURE YOU'VE ALREADY CHECKED, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE PEOPLE ACCESS THAT PROPERTY THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THERE.
>> THAT'S OWNED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION, AND IT IS ZONED THE SAME, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THEIR MAIN PARCEL THEY'RE ABUTTING TO GAIN ACCESS.
>> BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS LOCKED IN WITH OTHER PROPERTIES.
BUT THERE'S NO EASEMENT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.
>> AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE IS NO PUBLIC [INAUDIBLE].
>> OR THAT PROPERTY HAVE SOME SORT OF.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DIFFER WITH YOU THERE.
JUST TO THE EAST OF THOSE STORAGE BUILDINGS, JUST TO THE WEST OF THE APARTMENT BUILDING, THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT'S BEEN USED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
WHETHER IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE COURTHOUSE OR NOT, BUT PROBABLY BY PRESCRIPTION RIGHTS, PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THAT TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO USE IT TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY.
>> THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT IF IT'S LIKE YOU SAY.
>> IT WOULD MEAN BRINGING THAT UP TO CODE. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK ON THE RECORD AND SOMEONE SAY, WELL, ALL THEY SAID [INAUDIBLE] EAST WITH IT.
>> AS PART OF THAT SITE PLAN DATING, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO ACCESS ISSUES.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE DRIVE NOT GO THROUGH THE CENTER AND THEY POSSIBLY RE-DIVERT THE APARTMENT TRAFFIC AND POSSIBLY USE, TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT.
LIKE YOU SAID, IF THAT'S AN ALLEYWAY, THEN THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST PROBABLE MEANS OF THE REAR ACCESS TO THE EAST OF THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEX AND JUST REDESIGN THEIR PARKING LOT FOR THE APARTMENT SINCE THEY OWN ALL THREE TRACKS.
>> THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT WALKING DOWN.
>> THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE PLAT, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE IF IT'S FOUND TO BE SUCH ON THE PLAT, THEY'LL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUT.
BUT THEY HAVE TO DO THE MINOR PLAT SUBMISSION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
>> [OVERLAPPING] EVERYBODY GETS HAPPY WITH WHAT I SAID.
>> YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
>> OUR MOTION IS I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250114-014 AS PRESENTED.
>> YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE MASONRY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. NO, SIR, I'M NOT GOING TO ADD WHAT YOU SAID.
>> YOU DO THAT DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS.
>> I CAN CARRY THAT MESSAGE ON TO THE CHAMBERS.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTON AMENDED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. ALL THOSE POSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM NUMBER 15, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING,
[15. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on the proposed City of Angleton Comprehensive Fee Schedule as related to the User Fee Study.]
DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSED CITY OF ANGLETON COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE AS RELATED TO THE USER FEE STUDY. [INAUDIBLE]>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ENTERTAINING ENHANCING OUR FEE STRUCTURE AND ALSO PLACING CLARIFICATION IN TERMS OF CODIFYING THE DIFFERENT FEES HOLISTICALLY OR COMPREHENSIVELY FOR THE CITY.
GANDER HAS GONE BEFORE YOU PRESENTED, AND YOU HAVE A LIST OF HISTORICAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDERS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
WE PROVIDED YOU WITH A NUMBER OF ATTACHMENTS, APPENDIXES 1 THROUGH, I THINK, 4 OR SO THAT OUTLINES ALL OF THE FEES.
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WE ARE NOT QUITE READY TO ASK YOU FOR A FORMAL ACTION, BUT WE'RE JUST OPENING THE FLOOR.THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CONTINUED TO GIVE ANY INPUT TO STAFF.
WE'RE WORKING WITH PARKS TO FINE-TUNE ALL THE NUMBERS, AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE NEXT MEETING ON THE 28TH WOULD BE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE THAT WILL CODIFY EACH OF THE FEES THAT YOU SEE LISTED.
IF THERE'S SOME ADDED COMMENTS, WE'LL RECEIVE THOSE AT THIS TIME FROM YOU OR THE PUBLIC, AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH GANDER TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE REVISED ON ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.
AS SOON AS YOU ADOPT THIS FEE SCHEDULE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THEM AS EARLY AS LEGALLY POSSIBLE.
WE CAN GO A 30-DAY GENERALIZATION PERIOD TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE EDUCATED, HOWEVER LONG YOU THINK THAT PERIOD SHOULD BE.
>> BUT THE SOONER THE BETTER, WE THINK.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF IT WAS NOT ALREADY OPEN.
>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM TONIGHT? WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.
COUNCILS, ANYBODY WANT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY?
>> A LOT OF INFORMATION, WE DO KNOW THAT, BUT HOWEVER, BEFORE OR AFTER WE HAVE THE COMMENTS, JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE CHANGES, SO JUST PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT.
IN THE NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL MAKE IT MORE CONCISE FOR YOU IN THE FORM OF SOME ACTION THAT YOU CAN TAKE WITH MODIFICATIONS, ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
BUT WE'RE FEELING PRETTY GOOD THAT WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
>> I WOULD ASK THAT WE PUT SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
>> WE NEED TO BE MORE COMMUNICATIVE TO THE CITIZENS THAT THIS IS GOING ON SO THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
>> WE WILL WORK WITH COMMUNICATION [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS, WEBSITE, AND EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT THAT FINAL PUBLIC HEARING WILL OCCUR WITH ACTION IN THE NEXT MEETING.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO REGULAR AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 16, UPDATE DISCUSSION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DO WE NEED TO CLOSING IT?
>> ARE WE GOING TO CLOSE IT OR LEAVE IT OPEN?
>> I WOULD LEAVE IT OPEN. WE DON'T HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE, WE ARE JUST BRING THE ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION UNLESS LEGAL CHANGES THAT.
>> ITEM NUMBER 16, UPDATE DISCUSSION ON
[16. Update and discussion on road and drainage projects for Henderson Road Project, Street Bond Package III, and Texian Trail.]
ROAD AND DRAINAGE PROJECTS FOR HENDERSON ROAD PROJECT, STREET BOND PACKAGE 3, AND TEXIAN TRAIL.>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT DEAL WITH PAVING AND DRAINAGE AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.
FIRST PROJECT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS TEXIAN TRAIL.
IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND, I DIDN'T BRING MY LASER POINTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ONE WORKS.
>> CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT OR CAN I WALK UP THERE AND POINT IT?
>> IF YOU WANT TO WALK, YOU ARE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I JUST [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].
>> YEAH. JUST WALKING THROUGH THE PROJECT.
GO AHEAD, GRACE, GO TO THE PLANNING PROFILE.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE HAVE IS THERE'S AN EXISTING STORM SEWER THAT'S STARTING TO HAVE ISSUES, STARTING TO HAVE WATER BACK UP ON THE STREETS AND COMING OUT.
HECTOR AND [INAUDIBLE] HAVE TO GO AND JET IT OUT TO GIVE SOME RELIEF TO DRAIN IT DOWN.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING IS ESSENTIALLY REPLACING THE EXISTING STORM SEWER.
SOME OF THE SECTIONS OF STORM SEWER WAS PUT IN FAIRLY CLOSE TO A STRUCTURE HERE, SO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
STARTING AT THE OUTFALL HERE IN THE DITCH BEHIND TEXIAN TRAIL, WE'VE TALKED WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE TAKEN IT TO THEIR BOARD, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT THIS WEEK.
THE ENGINEERS HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT, SO WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE WILL BE SPLITTING BETWEEN SEVERAL AIR CONDITIONERS COMING [INAUDIBLE].
WE WILL LEAVE THE INLETS WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED AT BECAUSE IF WE DO, WE HAVE TO RE-SCOPE THE STREETS TO MOVE THOSE INLETS TO GET THEM MORE PARALLEL.
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ESSENTIALLY, WE JUST LEFT THEM WHERE THEY WERE AT.WE ADDED A NEW INLET TO PULL THE DRAINAGE UP BACK INTO THE EASEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO PLUG THE EXISTING PIPE HERE AND GROUT-FILL IT AND ABANDON IT IN PLACE WHERE IT'S STRUCTURALLY SECURE.
NO ISSUES WILL OCCUR AFTER WE GROUT-FILL IT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPLETELY GROUTED IN. GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW ARE UTILITIES.
THE PLAN IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON THE EXISTING UTILITIES.
WE WENT OUT BECAUSE WE KNEW WE'D HAVE SOME ISSUES, ESPECIALLY BACK HERE IN THE BACKYARDS WITH SEVERAL OF THE UTILITY PROVIDERS.
WE MET WITH TEXAS NEW MEXICO AND POWER.
THEY PUT A GROUND TRANSFORMER RIGHT ABOVE THE EXISTING PIKE.
DURING THE FIELD VISIT, THEY STATED THEY CAN'T TURN THE POWER OFF TO THOSE HOUSES UNLESS THE CITY CAME IN AND PUT GENERATORS IN AND PLUGGED THEM INTO THEIR HOUSE, OR WIRE INTO THEIR BOX, WHICH IS A BIG LIABILITY TO THE CITY.
I CALLED THE AREA ENGINEER AND TALKED TO HIM.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT HE SAID, IS HE'LL GO AHEAD AND RE-POWER THAT FOR EIGHT HOURS.
WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE RESIDENTS, LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE OUT OF POWER FOR EIGHT HOURS ON THAT DAY.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF IT.
WHAT HE DISCUSSED ABOUT IS IF THEY CAN'T GET IT BACK THROUGH, WHICH I DON'T SEE HOW THEY COULDN'T GO FROM HERE TO HERE IN EIGHT HOURS, BUT IF THEY CAN'T GET IT BACK THROUGH, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY POWER TO THEM, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD HAVE TO WIRE INTO THEIR ELECTRICAL BOX.
AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
THE THIRD WAS IF THEY DAMAGE ANYTHING, THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, THAT'S THE SAME IN ANY PROJECT WHATSOEVER.
WE'RE CONTINUING ON THROUGH THE SAME FAIRLY ALIGNMENT BACK IN THE EASEMENT, WE ARE CHANGING IT TO BE RCP INSTEAD OF HDPE.
LIKE I SAID, INLETS WILL REMAIN IN THE SAME PLACE.
WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUANTITIES HERE IN THAT AREA IN CASE WE HAVE TO GET INTO WHERE WE HAVE THIS DRIVEWAY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE GET INTO IT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
WHEN WE FIRST TOOK OFF OF THE PROJECT, THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST WAS ESSENTIALLY $299,400.
>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE READY TO GO TO BID.
ONCE WE GET ONE MORE UTILITY COMPANY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IS AT&T.
IT APPEARS THAT THEY RAN THEIR UTILITIES DOWN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND IS ON TOP OF OUR PIPE, WHICH WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY GOT THERE AND GET THAT ADJUSTED.
WE'RE CURRENTLY COORDINATING WITH THEM, BUT I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY ELSE SATISFIED.
>> YOU HAVE A LIVE BODY AT AT&T OR YOU JUST TRADING EMAILS?
>> WE'RE CALLING AND WE'RE SENDING EMAILS.
WE KNOW THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT DOES A LOT OF AT&T REVIEWS AND STUFF, SO WE'VE BEEN CALLING REBECCA AND TALKING TO HER.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE NOTORIOUSLY HORRIBLE.
THEY WERE STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF ME, I'LL TELL YOU.
THAT'S A FACT. EVERY ENGINEER I KNOW WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING.
>> [INAUDIBLE] NOBODY KNOWS [INAUDIBLE],.
>> YES, SIR. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? THAT ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD?
>> YOU NEVER SAID WHAT THE FINAL BALANCE IS RIGHT NOW.
>> I'M SORRY. WE STARTED AT 299.
>> I SAW IT, BUT I WANT YOU TO GET CREDIT IN PUBLIC, SO.
>> YOU GOT A HARD SOMEBODY FOR DOING THIS 295?
>> NO, SIR. THAT'S JUST THE ENGINEERS OPINION.
>> I PROBABLY KNOW. YOU HAVEN'T GOT. BID, HAVE YOU?
>> NO, I HAVEN'T GOT A BID YET.
>> IT MIGHT BE THE WAY EVERYTHING'S GOING RIGHT NOW.
>> FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING $350,000.
>> REAL QUICK. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? WHAT'S LEFT?
>> THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO GET APPROVAL THIS WEEK FROM MAILTON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT TEXAS NEW MEXICO TAKEN CARE OF.
THE OTHER CROSSING OF TEXAS NEW MEXICO, THEY CAN BE POWER, WE CAN GET UNDERNEATH IT.
IN EXPEDITI WE MET OUT IN THE FIELD AS WELL.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE WAITING ON IS AT&T.
>> BID PERIOD WILL BE ABOUT 30 DAYS, YES, SIR. L.
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CONTRACT WILL BE PROBABLY ABOUT 4-5 DAYS.
AS SOON AS I CAN GET IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO GET TO BID IF THEY HAVE TO GO AND MOVE THAT LINE BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT DOWN WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME POTENTIAL ISSUES.
>> WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS IF YOU TAKE POWER OUT FOR 8 HOURS IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER? I DON'T KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE IF WE COULD GET IT IN THE SPRING OR THE FALL, MUCH BETTER EASIER THAN THE RESIDENTS.
>> YES, SIR. PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THEM AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
>> I'M A BIT HESITANT TO STIPULATE THAT WE WAIT FOR AT&TS MOVE BEFORE WE PUT THIS THING OUT A BIT.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD?
>> I THINK YOUR BUDGET COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO.
>> I MEAN, IF AS LONG AS YOU PUT THEM ON NOTICE, THAT IS A PART OF THE S PROCESS THAT WE'RE STILL EXPECTING TO HAVE TO TAKE THIS PHASE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WALKING INTO.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY THING IS IS WE JUST CAN'T GIVE NOTICE TO PROCEED UNTIL THAT'S ADDRESSED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE IF THEY GO OUT THERE AND HAVE TO SHUT DOWN, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOME DOWNTIME.
>> I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE HE HOW LONG.
>> YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I'M GOING TO RUN BACK OVER THERE AGAIN.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE HENDERSON ROADWAY PROJECT.
THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN DIFFERENT PHASES.
THIS IS KIND OF THE CULMINATION OF IT, COMBINING THE DIFFERENT STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE.
ESSENTIALLY, IT'S THE 10,200 LINEAR FEET OF ROADWAY.
IT'S THE MAJOR EAST WEST CORRIDOR IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
IT HAS THE PLAN IS TO ENHANCE SAFETY, MOBILITY, AND DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT THE AREA AND IN TO MANAGE CONGESTION AND FUTURE GROWTH.
WE ANTICIPATE OR WHAT WAS BEEN ANTICIPATED IS ABOUT 2,200 NEW RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS EXPECTED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THIS THAT WOULD BE USING HENDERSON, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE AREA OF RELIEF BEFORE IT REALLY HITS.
JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND IN 2021, WE DID THE HENDERSON CORRIDOR STUDY, THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
WHAT WE FOUND OUT WAS THAT DUE TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THE CURRENT AND THE DIMINISHING RETURNS TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE THE ROADWAY INTERSECTIONS, THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND START LOOKING AT INCREASING THE ROADWAY FROM 2-4 LANE BOULEVARD.
WE WERE GOING TO ADD SOME SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS WITH ADDITIONAL TURN LANES AT VALDERAS DOWNING HERITAGE PARK/BUCHTA DRIVE FOR BUCHTA ROAD, AND ADDITIONAL TURN LANES ON 288B AND ANOTHER ONE AT MEADOWVIEW DRIVE.
FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETIES, AS YOU NOTICED OUT THERE, THAT ANYTHING WEST OF DOWNING, THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WANTING TO WALK BACK TOWARDS THE SCHOOL, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT REALLY IS WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS IS A EIGHT FOOT SHARED PEDESTRIAN PATH FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS CAN WALK TO GET THEM OFF THE ROAD.
ALSO, THERE ARE SOME SECTIONS OF FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, INTERSECTION UPGRADES TO COMPLY WITH ADA STANDARDS TO BRING THEM UP TO COMPLIANCE, AND ALSO SOME SAFETY CROSSINGS WITH BUCHTA CROSSING ACROSS THE BOULEVARD SECTIONS.
THEN WE GOT TO THE DRAINAGE STUDY.
LOOKING OVER THIS, WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACT USING THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT STANDARDS.
WE'RE GOING TO ENCLOSE THE LARGE DRAINAGE DITCH ALONG HENDERSON.
THIS WILL CREATE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE BOULEVARD SECTION, THE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, AND THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE EXISTING CAPACITY OF THIS DRAINAGE SYSTEM OUT THERE.
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CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, IT'S RIGHT ABOUT 20, ALMOST 25 YEAR SYSTEM.IT WILL B BROUGHT UP TO 100 YEAR CAPACITY, REDUCING THE FLOODING.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOWER LOWER THE FLOODING RISK AND BENEFITS OF THE SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, AND ENHANCING THE COMMUNITY'S RESILIENCE IN THIS AREA.
THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE INSTALLING A 42 INCH PIPE TO 60 INCH RCP, WHICH IS A REINFORCED CONCRETE PIKE, BEGINNING ON THE EAST SIDE OF HENDERSON NEAR 35, THAT WILL OUTFALL INTO RANCHO BITCH.
THE OTHER ONE IS DUAL 54, STARTING NEAR 288B AND EXTENDING BACK TO THE EAST WHERE IT WILL BECOME 5*10, AND WILL OUTFALL INTO THE EXISTING OUTFALL.
WE'LL PUT ANOTHER SYSTEM BESIDE THE TWO.
IT'LL BE THREE OUTFALLING INTO BRUSHY BOTTLES, SO THERE'LL BE TWO DISTINCT DRAINAGE OR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ON THIS PROJECT.
WE WANTED TO EVALUATE THE IMPROVEMENTS, CREATE A HENDERSON TASK FORCE, AND PROVIDE A FINAL CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE INCLUDED PEOPLE SUCH AS THE ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, GOOD SHEPHERD LUTHERANS CHURCH, ANGLETON ISD, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, TEXAS DO CREDIT UNION, RANCHO ISABELA, AND HERITAGE OAKS RESIDENTS FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OR PEOPLE REPRESENTING THOSE PARTICULAR SUBDIVISIONS.
WHEN WE STARTED THE TASK FORCE, THERE WERE TWO CROSS SECTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WITH COUNSEL.
ONE WAS A FULL BOULEVARD SECTION WITH A 14 FOOT MEDIAN WITH 12 FOOT, 13 FOOT ROADS GOING EACH WAY.
THE OTHER ONE WAS ONE WITH NO MEDIANS.
EACH ONE HAS ITS PROS AND CONS, SO WE BROUGHT THAT TO THE TASK FORCE AND WENT OVER THE PROS AND CONS AND GOT THEIR INPUT ON THIS.
WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE LOCATIONS OF THE MEDIANS, AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE SIDEWALKS AND SHARED USE.
THE FOUR FACTORS THAT KEPT COMING UP WAS TOTAL PROJECT TIME, HOW LONG IS THIS IS GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO HAS GOOD CONTROLLING MOVEMENTS FOR THAT USING MEDIANS IN CERTAIN SECTIONS.
ANGLETON PD WAS IN FAVOR OF THE MEDIANS FOR THIS REASON.
ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT RAISED SOME CONCERNS WITH THE MANEUVERABILITY OF THESE LARGE TRUCKS GOING THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR.
THE OTHER THING IS PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
IF WE DO HAVE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY, INTIMATE DOMAIN IS VERY POLARIZING.
IT'S VERY COSTLY, VERY TIME CONSUMING.
FINALLY, IT'S THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.
THE MORE PROPERTY YOU HAVE TO ACQUIRE, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THIS PROCESS, THE PROCESS WILL BE MUCH LESS JUST THE COST TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY.
THOSE WERE THE FOUR FACTORS THAT KEPT COMING UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO START DRIVING HOW WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER ON THIS.
ESSENTIALLY, IT WAS KIND OF A COMBINATION THAT WAS DECIDED ON.
AT 288B TO DOWNING, DUE TO THE BUSINESS AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC RETURN IN THERE, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SMALLER MEDIUM, NOT A 14 FOOT MEDIUM, BUT A SMALLER MEETING, A NINE FOOT MEDIUM FROM VALDERAS, I MEAN, FROM 288B TO VALDERAS, ALSO IN FRONT OF THE ANGLETON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WE DID ADD TWO MID BLOCK LEFT TURN LANES TO HELP THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
ONE'S GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF MASTER LEE'S, TAEKWONDO, THE OTHER ONE'S GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF ANGLETON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THE REST OF THE PLACE THE REST OF THE STREET WILL BE WITH NO MEDIANS WITH STRIPING ONLY.
WHEN I GET DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL PULL UP THE FULL EXHIBIT, AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH IT TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN ASK STEP-BY-STEP, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS OR WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? OTHER THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS EIGHT FOOT SHARED USE PATH.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 10, BUT WE DECIDED EIGHT FOOT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM 288B, ALL THE WAY DOWN CLOSE TO 35.
THE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, WE STOPPED IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS WHERE WE THOUGHT DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING IN.
THERE'S NO REASON TO PUT A SIDEWALK THAT WE TORE UP BY DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS HERE.
THERE'S WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN.
WE'LL HAVE THEM PUT THAT IN AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO MATCH WITH OUR PLAN.
THEN ALSO BACK UP TOWARDS 288B ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT AREA WHERE THERE'S JUST FENCES.
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THERE'S NO WAY COMING IN THERE.THOSE ARE TWO PLACES THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO PUT THE SIDEWALK.
WE DID HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS WITH ANGLETON ISD.
WE TALKED ABOUT THREE DRIVEWAYS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PARKING LOT WOULD BE CLOSED AND THREE WERE TO REMAIN.
WE'VE MET WITH THEM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
THEY SEEM TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, AND ONCE WE GOT THE RIGHT DRIVEWAYS IDENTIFIED.
ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THIS PRESENTATION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND THEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT, AND LET THEM MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE THIS IS THE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN THROUGH.
THE OTHER ONE WE WANTED TO COORDINATE WITH WAS TEXAS DOW CREDIT UNION.
WE DISCUSSED THE TRAFFIC FLOW PATTERN AT THE BANK.
WE EVALUATED CLOSING ONE DRIVEWAY.
THEY'RE OPEN TO CLOSING A DRIVEWAY.
IT'S JUST WHICH ONE IS IT THE MIDDLE ONE OR IS IT THE ONE BACK TO THE EAST.
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC MONITORING AND DETERMINE THE EFFECTS OF CLOSING A DRIVEWAY, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
WE CAN DO THAT AS WE GET CLOSER INTO THE DESIGN PHASE.
THE SECOND TASK FORCE MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE FOCUSED ON IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUCHTA TO ROAD TO 35 AND CONSTRUCTION PHASING.
TRAFFIC MODELS INDICATED THE NEED FOR DUAL TURN LANES AT 288 B.
HOWEVER, THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDED THAT A SINGLE LANE COULD SERVE AS BOTH LEFT AND TURN LANE.
WE'RE TRYING AGAIN TO MINIMIZE THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY AND SAY COST TO THE CITY.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WOULD TALK WITH TEXT DOT FOR THE SIGNAL TIMING TO HELP WITH WHEN WE DO DO THAT.
WE WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE SIGNAL TIMING TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC MOBILITY THERE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSSED ON THIS WAS THE POTENTIAL OF ONLY DOING A TWO LANE SECTION ON THE EAST SIDE FROM 35 TO MEADOWVIEW LANE.
DEPENDING ON IT DOES RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NEED A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THERE TO DRIVE THAT.
HOWEVER, WE RECOMMEND DURING THE BUDGETING PHASE, AND WHILE WE'RE GOING AND TALKING TO GET FUNDING TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP IT AS A FOUR LANE BOULEVARD, AND WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN WE GET INTO THE DESIGN PHASE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PHASE 4.
WE'LL DISCUSS IN A MINUTE THAT WILL BE DONE AT A LATER TIME.
DEVELOPMENT MAY BE THERE, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHEN WE'RE REQUESTING MONEY FROM HDAC.
THESE ARE THE PHASES THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THE TASK FORCE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT AND A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESSES ALL RIGHT HERE BACK TO 288.
THE THOUGHT WAS, IS WE NEED TO LAY IT OUT TO WHERE IT MAKES SENSE ON HOW WE BREAK IT DOWN.
PHASE 1 WOULD BE THE OUT FALL, THE ADDITIONAL 10*5, THE OUTFALL THE ADDITIONAL 10*5 AND THE 310*5 WOULD COME WE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH SIDE OF DOWNING.
PHASE 2 WOULD PICK IT UP FROM NORTH SIDE OF DOWNING, THE NORTH SIDE OF VALDERAS.
PHASE 3 WOULD BE FROM VALDERAS TO 288B.
PHASE 4 WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE, ESSENTIALLY FROM WHERE PHASE 1 STOPPED ALL THE WAY BACK TO 35.
THOSE WERE THE FOUR PHASES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT AND AGREED UPON DURING THE TASK FORCE MEETING.
ONCE WE IDENTIFIED WHAT AREAS ARE THE LIMITS OF THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY THAT WAS NEEDED, WE WERE ABLE TO TOTAL UP AN ACCOUNT FOR THE AREAS FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF REQUIRED RIGHT AWAY BY DOING IT THIS WAY AND SAVING THE CITY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, TIME AND EFFORT IN DOING IT THIS WAY.
ALSO, AS PART OF THIS, WE WENT AHEAD AND COORDINATED WITH CENTERPOINT, AT&T, COMCAST IN TEXAS NEW MEXICO.
WE PUT TOGETHER UTILITY CONFLICT LISTS WHERE WE BELIEVE THE CONFLICTS WERE GOING TO BE JUST TO START BUDGETING IN FOR THOSE CONFLICTS SO WE CAN PUT A COST INTO THEM THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE SO THAT WE CAN PUT STRUCTURES IN THERE IN THAT COST TO GIVE YOU A MORE UP TO DATE COST.
THERE'S GOING TO BE 128 CONFLICTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW.
THERE'LL BE PROBABLY MORE WHEN WE DO S LEVEL SERVICES LATER ON, BUT THIS IS A GOOD START.
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>> ALSO, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT SAID THAT THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
THEY HAVE THE RABB ROAD REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO OFFSET TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ON HENDERSON ROAD.
AS YOU SEE, THIS IS WHERE THAT FACILITY IS AT.
WE WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO PHASES, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE COST IS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT IS THE COSTS FOR RCP AND BOX CULVERTS HAVE WENT UP APPROXIMATELY 65% IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
WHILE WE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY ON RIGHT OF WAY AND STUFF, THE PRICES OF JUST RAW MATERIALS COMING IN HAS WENT UP DRASTICALLY.
PHASE 1, WE BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT ABOUT, SAY, 22 MILLION. GO PHASE 2.
PHASE 2, WHICH WILL BE FROM WEST OF DOWNING TO WEST OF VALDERAS, IT'S ABOUT 15 MILLION.
THE FINAL FROM OUR PHASE 3, IT WILL BE FROM 288B TO JUST THE WEST OF VALDERAS, WILL BE ABOUT 7.9 MILLION.
PHASE 4, WILL BE ABOUT $11 MILLION TO DO PHASE 4.
YOU CAN SEE PHASE 4 IS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE OTHERS BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE DRAINAGE THAT'S INCLUDED AS MUCH OF THE HEAVY DRAINAGE THAT YOU SEE ON THE OTHER PHASES.
AGAIN, WE WANTED TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAY COME UP WHEN WE GET MOVING IN THIS ASC CORE PERMITTING, TRAFFIC NOISE WORKSHOP.
TXDOT COORDINATION, OF COURSE, IS GOING TO HAPPEN, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, HISTORICAL RESOURCES, BID PHASE, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, GRANT ADMINISTRATORS.
WE TRY THE BEST ABILITY THAT WE CAN TO GIVE YOU A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO COST YOU.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROFESSIONAL FEES, IT'S NOT JUST OUR FEES OF BID, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, AND DESIGN PHASE, IT'S EVERYTHING ELSE THAT MAY BE A PART OF DOING THIS PROJECT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT, WE BROKE IT DOWN TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE THIS PIE CHART OF THE PORTION OF THE DRAINAGE, THE PORTION OF THE PAVING AND THE ROADWAY.
THE UTILITIES ARE VERY SLIGHT.
THE GENERAL SUCH AS MOBILITY, STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION, STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THE PROFESSIONAL FEE SERVICES COMES OUT TO ABOUT 65,762,000.
AGAIN, THE BIGGEST DRIVER IS THE COST FOR PIPE HAS JUST GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
NOW, THERE IS 30% CONTINGENCIES IN THIS.
THERE IS ROOM TO WORK TO GO DOWN.
WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINED, BUT WE'RE NOT AS IN A DESIGN REFINED FOR THIS PROJECT.
FUNDING. JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND REMIND EVERYBODY, WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE HGAC.
THE MINIMUM SCORE FOR THE WRITTEN PORTION WAS 50.
COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS NEED TO BE ONE.
WITH THESE SCORES, THERE'S A STRONG CHANCE THAT FUNDING WOULD ULTIMATELY MEAN THE CITY WOULD ONLY MATCH 20% OF THE COST OF THIS PROJECT.
YOU ARE UTILIZING AND LEVERAGING THIS INFORMATION TO GO OUT WITH HGAC FOR FUNDING FOR THESE.
WE'VE BROKE THEM DOWN TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW MORE BITE-SIZE PIECES INSTEAD OF ONE GIANT PROJECT TO WHERE NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE CITY FOR ITS BONDING CAPACITY, BUT ALSO FOR HGAC TO PICK THESE PROJECTS.
CONCLUSION. WE THINK THIS IS A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PROVE ITS RESILIENCY.
WE'LL RECOMMEND THE CITY MOVE FORWARD WITH PROPERTY ACQUISITION IN THE SELECTED ROADWAY CROSS-SECTION, CONTINUE ALL EFFORTS WITH HGAC-TIP PROGRAM.
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THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT IS THE HYDRAULIC MODEL OF BRUSHY BAYOU TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL MITIGATION VOLUME AT RABB ROAD DETENTION FACILITIES BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT THERE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE OUTPUTTING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND IT'S ACTUALLY DOWNSTREAM, SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.AGAIN, CONTINUOUS COORDINATORS WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS ON OUTSTANDING ITEMS AND PROJECT SCHEDULES.
WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT, IT'S LIKE DRINKING OUT OF A FIRE HYDRANT.
>> WHEN DOES HGAC MEET TO DISCUSS THE AWARD?
>> I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IN THAT TO GET A BETTER DATE.
WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN AT THE OFFICE THAT MONITORS THOSE.
>> SO I'M JUMPING WAY AHEAD, PROBABLY.
WHAT HAPPENS SHOULD WE NOT GET THE TIP? WE HAVE A CERTAIN BUDGETED AMOUNT.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO MOVE THE BALL, AT LEAST, VERY SHORTLY, IMAGINE, ABOUT 5.5 MILLION, WHICH MIGHT FIT THE 20%.
BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT, BECAUSE I THINK AT A CERTAIN POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START SPENDING THAT MONEY.
WE CAN'T JUST LEAVE IT INDEFINITELY, HOPING AND CROSSING OUR FINGERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS TIP GRANT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT'S RECOMMENDED ON THIS, AND I'LL WALK THROUGH THIS.
I FORGOT THAT I WAS TO WALK THROUGH THIS.
WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE, YOU CUT DOWN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITIONS.
YOU REALLY MADE IT TO WHERE IT'S VERY VIABLE OPTION AND ONLY TAKEN IT IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
I THINK THE LAND ACQUISITION, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? THAT WAS 600 OR WAS LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILLION FEES.
>> LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILLION?
>> LESS THAN THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION.
SORRY. LESS THAN THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION IN THE FEES.
INCLUDING ALL THE FEES FOR JUDGES AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT WAS, I WANT TO SAY 800, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
FOR TWO MILLION, YOU COULD PROBABLY GO OUT AND START ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY TO GET YOU THAT MUCH FURTHER AHEAD BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE LONGEST PROCESSES OF THIS THING IS ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY, NEGOTIATING THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.
ANOTHER THING, LIKE I SAID, PREVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO DO A HYDRAULIC MODEL OF BRUSHY BAYOU TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS.
GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOW BEAM AT 35 IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE ADDITIONAL FLOW BEFORE IT GETS TO RABB ROAD, AND THEN THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF VOLUME AT THE RABB ROAD DETENTION FACILITY NEEDS TO [INAUDIBLE].
THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO IN PREPARATION TO KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD, SPECIFICALLY, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
IT'S NOT A FAST-MOVING PROCESS.
>> YOU HAVE TO ACQUIRE ALL RIGHT OF WAY OR CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE PHASES?
>> WE COULD REQUIRE AS THE PHASES COME IF YOU'D LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU ALREADY GOT SOMEBODY OUT THERE, IT'S MORE ECONOMICAL, MORE EFFICIENT TO KEEP THEM GOING FOR THOSE PROPERTIES FOR THE CITY.
>> IF YOU WANT, I'LL WALK YOU OUT THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] EVERYTHING.
>> YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT HERE TONIGHT HELPING YOU. HEY, GRACE.
>> IF YOU'LL ZOOM IN HERE, GRACE, ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
THIS WAS THE AREA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE SOME AREA, RIGHT HERE, FROM THE TASK FORCE.
THE ORIGINAL STUDY WAS SHOWING THAT WE NEEDED TWO-TURN LANES.
WE DECIDED TO DO A LEFT AND STRAIGHT THROUGH.
THIS WAS ABLE TO BRING THIS IN.
THE AREAS YOU SEE IN PINK WITH THE BLUE LINE ON THE OUTSIDE, THOSE ARE THE ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT RIGHT OF WAY WOULD NEED TO BE.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECTION WITH THE RAISED MEDIAN.
COMING ON THROUGH, WE HAVE OUR LEFT-TURN LANE MID-BLOCK TO COME IN TO THE TAEKWONDO STUDIO.
THE MEETING WOULD CONTINUE ON UNTIL WE GOT TO VALDERAS, WHERE WE GO TO THE RECOMMENDED STREETS OR THE TURNING MOVEMENTS TO BRING YOU INTO MORE OF AN INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR YOUR TURNING.
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AFTER VALDERAS BACK TO DOWNING, THE YELLOW LINE MEANS THAT IT IS JUST GOING TO BE STRIPING, NO RAISED MEDIAN.AGAIN, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AREA HERE FOR THE TRANSITION ONCE WE GET OUT OF THE INTERSECTION, BUT ONCE WE GET OUT OF THE INTERSECTION, WE'RE BACK INSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE AREA OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ALREADY FOR A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
THERE'S NO REASON TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR THE DRAINAGE.
ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH US TO FILL IN THAT DITCH.
THE CROSSES, I'M SORRY, THESE XS, THIS IS THE EIGHT-FOOT WIDE SHARED PATH FOR PEDESTRIAN AND FOR BICYCLISTS, AGAIN, TO KEEP EVERYBODY OUT OF THE INTERSECTIONS.
COMING ON DOWN. AS WE GET CLOSER TO DOWNING, HERE WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND.
WHEN WE START EXPANDING HERE, AGAIN, THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WILL BE NEEDED WILL BE HERE.
THIS IS THAT AREA WHERE THAT LARGE DITCH, WHERE WE COULD PUT OUR DRAINAGE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT SIDEWALKS OR ANY PAVING, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT BEING USED, AND WE'RE NOT GOING BEHIND ANY OF THE FENCES WHEN WE'RE ACQUIRING THAT PROPERTY THERE.
NOMINAL IMPACT. WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME CORNER CLIPS UP HERE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING THE FIRST DRIVEWAY, CLOSING THE SECOND DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS WHERE THE PARENT PICK-UP, DROP-OFF IS.
THE SCHOOL TURNING MOVEMENT COMES, WHERE THEY COME BACK TO DOWNING.
THIS IS WHERE THE BUSES COME IN.
IF YOU'RE GOING THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE'LL CLOSE ANOTHER DRIVEWAY HERE.
WE'LL HAVE A LEFT-TURN LANE WHERE THE BUSES COME IN.
THEY WILL ALSO COME OUT AT THIS LOCATION.
WE'VE ACCOMMODATED WHAT THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT ON THAT.
ONCE WE GET PAST THIS AREA, AGAIN, WE'RE RED, SO THAT'S A RAISED MEDIAN.
WE GO BACK TO PAINT IN THE YELLOW SHARED PATH, COMING ON THROUGH WHERE THEY'RE AT BUCHTA COMING UP.
THERE'S THE OUTFALL. HERE, ONCE WE GOT EVERYTHING LINED OUT, THIS IS A GIANT STRUCTURE.
THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE STRUCTURE.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THAT COST CAME UP.
>> THAT GOES TO PHASE 4 OR IS THAT IN ONE?
>> [OVERLAPPING] PHASE 1. PHASE 1 WILL START HERE AND GO THAT WAY.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE INTERSECTION.
>> NO, SIR. IT STARTS RIGHT HERE PAST THIS OUTFALL.
THIS WILL BE THE OTHER FIVE BY EIGHT.
THE REST OF THEM RUN BACK THAT WAY FIVE BY 10S.
COMING THROUGH THIS HERE IS THE AREA.
THIS IS THE GREENBELT FOR THIS SUBDIVISION HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DETERMINE WHO IS THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CONTACT.
ALSO, TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING WITH THE SIDEWALK.
THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE INTO HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS THAT LARGE OPEN DITCH THAT NO ONE'S MAINTAINING THAT THE CITY HAS A SIDEWALK THROUGH THERE THAT THEY'RE WANTING THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT.
CONTINUING ON THROUGH. AGAIN, THE PINK AREA IS THE AREA THAT WILL HAVE TO COME OUT.
I'M SORRY, GO BACK THIS WAY, GRACE.
ONE OF THE REASON WHY YOU'RE SEEING IT BEING SHOVED OVER SO FAR IS THIS IS THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THIS IS THE BANKS OF BRUSHY BAYOU.
BRUSHY BAYOU HAS ACTUALLY GONE ENCROACHED INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, SO THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSED THAT TO SHIFT SO FAR UP.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE GUARDRAILING AND STUFF HERE IN THIS AREA WHICH MADE US SHIFT EVERYTHING UP IN THOSE AREAS.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO COME BACK IN AS FAST AS WE CAN.
WE'RE BACK INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY HERE AND CONTINUE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TILL WE GET TO THE INTERSECTION DOWN HERE, 35.
AS I SAID BEFORE, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE TASK FORCE WAS ONLY TO DO A TWO LANE THROUGH THIS AREA, JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT WE GET UP HERE IN THIS AREA.
BUT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES AND FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, WE'LL PUT A BOULEVARD SECTION IN THERE.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT PHASE, IF THE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T COME, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE THE LAST PHASE, WE WOULD JUST STILL PUT IN THE TWO, BUT FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES WE LEFT IT AS FOUR.
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IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION FAST, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.>> COULD I TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION AT 288?
>> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT SHARED STRAIGHT AND TURN LANE IS OFFSET FROM THE STRAIGHT LANE ON THE OTHER SIDE A LITTLE BIT.
>> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS?
>> IS THE HERITAGE PARKS HOA DISSOLVED?
>> I DON'T THINK IT EVER GOT OFF THE GROUND.
NOBODY HAS REALLY TAKEN CONTROL OVER IT.
>> WORK FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO FIGURE OUT.
>> I JUST REMEMBER BEING ON PLANNING AND ZONING EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS AN ISSUE THEN.
>> WE HAVE A RETENTION POND THAT'S NOT MAINTAINED.
THE SIDEWALK IS OURS, WE PUT THAT IN.
>> A LITTLE MEDIAN BECAME A CITY CONTENTIOUS IN THEIR ENTRANCE, SO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR UPKEEP?
>> WE HAVE THE REPORT READY TO FINALIZE.
WE PLAN ON FINALIZING WHATEVER COMMENTS WE GET BACK.
THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THE PATH FORWARD, WHICHEVER WAY, COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THAT BOND THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE, IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITIONS OR NOT.
>> GRACE, CAN YOU GO BACK EAST, PLEASE.
KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING, AND STOP RIGHT THERE.
ZOOM, GO TO THE RIGHT, SLOW DOWN. ZOOM IN SOME MORE, PLEASE.
RIGHT THERE. EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH FROM VALDERAS TO DOWNING IS INSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, EXCEPT FOR THAT CLIP ON THE END RIGHT BEFORE DOWNING.
THEN WHAT ABOUT BACK TO THE WEST RIGHT THERE AT VALDERAS?
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LITTLE CLIP.
>> THAT IS ABOUT TO DEVELOP NOW.
>> DID WE BRING THAT UP WITH THEM OR WE JUST HAVE THEM HERE?
>> I'LL WORK WITH OTIS ON THAT TOMORROW.
>> THE SUN IS PRETTY HOT AND HEAVY NOW.
THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, PLEASE, BACK TOWARDS THAT DAYCARE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
JUST GO TO THE RIGHT. RIGHT THERE. ZOOM IN SOME MORE, PLEASE.
IF YOU WERE TO PUT A CENTER TURN RIGHT THERE FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER, CAN YOU GET IT IN WITHOUT HITTING THE ACQUISITION?
THAT'S NOT A MEDIAN THERE IN THAT AREA.
>> PLACE A TURN IN RIGHT THERE.
>> IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT.
YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM.
>> I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION NOW BECAUSE NOW WE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY AT.
>> YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO PUT THAT LITTLE SMALLER NINE FOOT MEDIAN WITHOUT STARTING PUSHING YOU BACK OVER.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, IS DO YOU HAVE IT?
>> IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO. I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY TIGHT.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO SMALL RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
>> COULD YOU LOOK AT IT AND SEE? I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I WANT TO KNOW IS IF IT WILL WORK.
>> YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE MEDIAN ON PAST, GO ALL THE WAY UP TO BASICALLY, I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWNING, CORRECT?
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>> YES, THAT WOULD BE DOWNING. NO, I'M NOT ASKING TO GO ALL THE WAY, I'M JUST ASKING FOR THAT TURN IN FOR THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
>> BASICALLY, WE HAVE TO PUT A BOLD IN THERE IN THE PAVEMENT.
>> YOU WANT TO PUT A BOLD IN HERE.
>> THE TRAFFIC PATTERN WOULD WARRANT DOING THAT.
>> THERE OR FURTHER DOWN BECAUSE THAT'S GREENHOUSE?
>> I THINK THE DAYCARE CENTER WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY NEEDED
>> I DID HAVE THIS, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, I THINK AS IT IS.
WHEN YOU SETTLE ON NINE FOOT, IS THERE SOME REGULATION AS OPPOSED TO EIGHT FOOT, AS OPPOSED TO SEVEN FOOT? I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT ABOUT NINE FOOT?
>> MOST OF THE TIME IT'S 14, 11.
>> WHAT WE DID IS WE SAID, WE WANT TO BRING IT DOWN TO WHERE YOU STILL HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE, WHERE IF YOU WANT TO PLANT SOMETHING IN THERE, NINE FOOT, BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU TAKE YOUR CURVES, YOU'RE LOSING ANOTHER FOOT, SO IT'S REALLY EIGHT FOOT IN THERE.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THAT FIGURE.
>> WE CAN SQUEEZE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE AN IDEA.
I WAS JUST RIGHT THERE, YOU DO THE THREE FOOT JUST.
>> 288B, TYPE OF DEAL, EXACTLY. JUST A THOUGHT.
>> YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE TWO CURVES BACK-TO-BACK.
>> I THINK HE'S JUST WORRIED OF SAFETY ISSUES FOR PULLING OVER IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT COULD BE A THOROUGHFARE, I DON'T KNOW, WE PULLING OUT OF.
>> CAN YOU SCROLL BACK TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT PAST THE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE ROTHWOOD LAND TURNS OUT, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER RIGHT.
>> YEAH. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE UPDATED HOUSES.
>> WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE ROAD THERE? WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THAT, THE TURN LANE?
>> WELL, THERE IS NO MEDIUM THERE.
THAT'S JUST STRIPING, SO LIKE IT CROSS.
>> WELL, I THINK IT WILL BECOME AN ISSUE AT SOME POINT.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT A RESOLUTION WAS, CAN WE LOOK AT IT.
>> THE BOLD, TO FORCE TRAFFIC TO GO TO THE RIGHT.
>> CORRECT. YOU MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THE ROAD.
>> SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE DIVIDER.
>> CORRECT. THAT'S TRUE TO PROTECT THEM FROM PEOPLE FROM MAKING LEFT-HAND TURNS.
YOU SEE WHAT WHAT HE'S ASKING RIGHT THERE?
>> [OVERLAPPING] MEETING THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM TURNING LEFT FORCING INTO RIGHT.
>> THEN WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION, IT WOULD BE BASICALLY A RIGHT-HAND TURN FORCING YOU TOWARDS DOWNING.
>> JUST KEEPS THE TRAFFIC FLOW FROM FLOWING AND NOT HAVING TO CROSS OVER, HAVING PEOPLE COME OUT AND MAKE A LEFT, WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY POSE A RISK SINCE THERE'S JUST A THREE-WAY STOP ESSENTIALLY ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC, AND THEN PEOPLE MAKING A LEFT FROM HENDERSON INTO.
I THINK RIGHT THERE WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR A RAISED MEDIUM.
JUST SOME PROTECTION TO KEEP THE FLOW.
OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'D BE, I DON'T TALK TO THE CHIEF, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT PEOPLE MAKING LEFT-HAND TURNS ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC.
I DON'T KNOW. HE WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I.
>> BUT YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AROUND THIS WAS FORCING THAT RIGHT WOULD KEEP PEOPLE FROM UTILIZING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PICK UP OUT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE WHEN THEY PULLED IN THERE, THEY HAD TO TAKE A RIGHT RATHER THAN TAKING A LEFT.
IT ALLEVIATED THAT TYPE OF SITUATION AND THAT ROAD COULD BE OPENED BACK UP TO HENDERSON.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
ALSO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME IN AND VOICED THEIR OPINION AT THAT TIME.
>> I BELIEVE WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM THERE TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY?
>> THAT WAS [OVERLAPPING] WHERE WE ARRIVED.
>> I THINK, IDEALLY, THEY WOULD WANT NOTHING.
WE KNOW IT'S PROBABLY FOR THE BETTER OF ALL OF THEM GOING TO HAVE SOME INGRESS AND EGRESS THERE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
>> WHAT KEEPS THEM FROM JUST HAVING THAT ONE AREA OF EGRESS FROM THE SUBDIVISION, SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE SUBDIVISION DRIVING PAST ALL THE HOUSE, JUST PULL OFF.
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE THE CUT BETWEEN.
>> WE MAKE THAT CHANGE, IN THE TOTAL SCHEME OF THINGS THAT WOULD OCCUR.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING OUT THERE TO BE MORE TOUGH.
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>> OH, NO, WE'RE GOING TO [OVERLAPPING] DEFINITELY.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE COSTS, BUT I'M GOING TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
THAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE, DEFINITELY.
I LIKE THAT IDEA. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> IT'S NOT DONE YET. THERE'S MORE.
>> FOR THE LAST ITEM TONIGHT FOR US ON THE AGENDA IS FOR THE STREET BOND PROJECT PHASE 3.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK UP HERE SO WE CAN POINT.
WANT TO GO OVER TWO DIFFERENT ROADWAYS: ONE IS NORTH PARRISH, THE OTHER ONE IS SILVER SADDLE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY STANDARDS.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO DO ON NORTH PARRISH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND SOME LITTLE CHANGES.
I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
LOOKING AT NORTH PARRISH, THIS IS NORTH PARRISH, AS IT SITS TODAY.
IT'S AN ELEVATED ROADWAY, VERY SHALLOW DRAINAGE.
IT'S ONLY 19 FOOT WIDE, AND IT HAS LIMITED DEPTH AT ITS OUTFALL.
THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
ALSO, YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD BENDS AND PARKING HERE AT THE ANGLETON ISD FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO COME FROM FROM THE CITY STANDARDS.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ESSENTIALLY, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S OUT THERE, WHICH IS AN ELEVATED ROADWAY WITH ROADSIDE DITCHES VERSUS THE CITY STANDARD, WHICH IS A CURB AND GUTTER ROADWAY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOWER THE ROADWAY DOWN ANYWHERE BETWEEN A FOOT-AND-A-HALF TO TWO-AND-A-HALF FEET.
THE REASON WHY IS SINCE THE DITCHES WILL BE GONE, THE WATER HAS TO SHEET FLOW FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY OVER THE BACK OF THE CURB AND GO INTO THE EXISTING ROAD OR THE PROPOSED ROADWAY INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND INWARDS.
TYPICALLY, WE LIKE TO RUN THE PIPE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD, JUST TO STAY AWAY FROM SOME OTHER ISSUES.
BUT DUE TO THE FACT OF THE LIMITED OUTFALL AT THE DITCHES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THIS TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROADWAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH COVER.
WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITH THAT.
THE PROPOSED SECTION IS GOING TO BE A 28 FOOT BACK-TO-BACK, SIX INCH CURB AND GUTTER.
STORM SEWER WILL BE 24 INCHES, AND WE ALSO HAVE A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK DOWN THE EAST SIDE.
THIS IS THE DRAINAGE AREA MAP.
THERE'S THREE DISTINCT DRAINAGE AREAS ON THIS. THE FIRST AREA.
THIS IS 35, ABOUT 300 FEET THAT WATER BREAKS AND COMES BACK UP TO A 42 INCH PIPE HERE THAT DRAINS ALL OF 35.
THE SECOND, IT BREAKS BACK AND COMES INTO A OUTFALL HERE AT THIS DITCH THAT RUNS TO TJ WRIGHT WHERE THERE'S A 48 INCH.
THEN THE THIRD ACTUALLY TAKES WATER FROM ABOUT 150, 200 FOOT NORTH OF LIVE OAK AND BRINGS IT BACK THAT WAY INTO THAT DITCH.
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONTROLLING FACTORS.
WE TALK ABOUT OUTFALL DEPTHS AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT IS THE DRAINAGE THAT I CAN PUT IN CAN ONLY BE AS LOW AS THAT EXISTING 48 THAT'S OVER ON TJ WRIGHT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WENT WITH THE LOWEST THAT I COULD GET TO WHERE THE REGRADING,
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AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST, IS WE'RE GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY FLAT THROUGH HERE TO GET POSITIVE DRAINAGE TO COME BACK TO IT.THE EXISTING DITCHES ARE SHALLOW, THEY'RE HIGHER.
BY THE TIME WE PUSH EVERYTHING DOWN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO MOVE IT UP TO GET THAT DITCH TO A 0.2, OR 0.02, OR WHATEVER TO DRAIN THIS WAY.
IT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY FLAT THROUGH THAT AREA.
LOOKING UP HERE, AGAIN, AT 35, I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU-ALL A LITTLE QUICK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
HERE'S THE 42, HERE IS THE 24 THAT WERE COMING IN.
IT DRAINS EVERYTHING BACK FROM APPROXIMATELY RIGHT HERE WHERE THE HIGH POINT IS, BACK THAT WAY.
ANOTHER THING TO MAKE SURE WE DISCUSS IS THE DRAINAGE NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO A CURB AND GUTTER, THE STREET IS PART OF THE DRAINAGE.
WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS WE DO WHAT'S CALLED A CASCADING EFFECT, SO WHERE THE INLETS ARE IS A LOW, AND THEN THEY'LL COME UP AND BE A HIGH.
BUT THE HIGHS WILL GET LOWER AND A LITTLE LOWER TO WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A RAIN EVENT THAT OVERWHELMS THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY PUTTING IN WHAT STATISTICALLY EVERY AREA DOES A TWO YEAR STORM EVENT, THE ROAD WILL SHEET FLOW WATER AWAY BACK DOWN TO 35 TO THE BIGGER LARGER SYSTEM.
HERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SAW.
WHEN WE GET TO TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHERE THE SCHOOL IS VERSUS WHERE THESE HOUSES ARE, THE SCHOOL IS HIGHER THAN THESE HOUSES.
THESE HOUSE, YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVEWAY GOING DOWN TO WHERE THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING UP TO THERE.
ALSO, THE PARKING, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NOT MUCH PARKING ON A 19 FOOT ROADWAY.
WHEN WE GO TO 28 FOOT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES KEEPING THAT PARKING.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS WHEN WE WORK BY THAT SCHOOL, THAT SCHOOL IS SO OLD, AND THERE ARE SOME ISSUES TO WHERE THE BRICKS ARE ALREADY BREAKING.
THERE'S SOME FOUNDATION MOVING.
I WANTED TO DOCUMENT THAT AND EXPLAIN THESE NEXT SLIDES OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS.
AS WE'RE COMING IN BACK TOWARDS THE SCHOOL, THIS IS THE SECOND SYSTEM, COMING BACK THIS WAY.
THIS IS OUR 30 INCH OUTFALL THAT WE SHOWED PREVIOUSLY.
ONCE WE GET HERE IN THIS AREA, WE'RE GOING TO SLOWLY TRANSITION BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO GET ELEVATION TO WHERE I MAKE THAT PARKING LOT TO WHERE I STILL HAVE CAPABILITY OF PARKING VEHICLES, AND THAT'S GOT TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.
WHEN I LOWER THE ROAD ON THIS SIDE, IT'S TOO LOW ON THIS SIDE, IF I RAN IT STRAIGHT, PLUS THERE'S NO PARKING.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE COMING IN AND WE'RE STARTING TO SHIFT THE ROAD OVER FOUR FOOT AND 125 FEET. THERE WILL BE A LITTLE SHIFT.
THERE'S ALREADY A SHIFT OUT THERE.
THEN I'M GOING TO DO A SUPER ELEVATED ROAD, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT MEANS, TO WHERE THE WATER WILL DRAIN FROM THE SCHOOL BACK ACROSS THIS WAY.
WE'LL HAVE SOME INLETS TO CATCH IT AS IT SHEET FLOWS ACROSS.
BUT THAT WAY, I CAN STILL KEEP COMPLIANCE WHEN WE GET INTO THE PARKING LOT, GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, HERE.
>> THIS IS THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT.
I'M ABLE TO GO FROM 2% FROM WHERE THIS CURB HAS TO BE TO THE GUTTER LINE.
I'M ABLE TO TAKE THAT GUTTER LINE BACK UP 2%.
TO DEFINE THIS AREA HERE, I'M GOING TO PUT A ROLLOVER CURB, WHICH IS A FOUR INCH WHICH WILL BRING IT UP FOUR INCHES TO GIVE ME SOME HEIGHTS.
THEN I'M GOING TO GO 2% AGAIN, BACK UP HERE, I'M BACK TO WHERE I'LL HAVE A CURB THAT'S ROUGHLY SIX INCHES TO THE EXISTING PAVEMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT WORK.
I'M PUTTING A FOUR INCH ROLLOVER CURB UP TO HERE TO PICK ME UP ANOTHER FOUR INCHES TO GET ME A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU ALL IN A MINUTE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN THERE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A SIDEWALK TO WHERE CARS WILL PARK ON IT, AND FORCE PEOPLE BACK OUT TO THE ROW THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE.
>> WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT A 20 FOOT PARKING SPOT AND A FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK.
FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS WERE FIVE FOOT EVERYWHERE ELSE.
WE CAN GO TO FOUR FOOT AS LONG AS EVERY 200,
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250 FEET, WE HAVE A FIVE BY FIVE LANDING PATTERN.WE GO BACK TO A FIVE FOOT, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
ALSO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THE EXISTING WHEELCHAIR RAMP OVER A LITTLE TO WHERE WE CAN GET THIS IN HERE.
WE WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS WALL BECAUSE I GOT TO PUT A CURB IN.
I'M GOING TO STAY FOUR FOOT OFF OF THOSE BOLLARDS, AND CUT IT AND TIE THE CURB INTO IT, AND GALLERY THING IN AND PLACE A LOCKING KEY, AND I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
ONCE WE GET PAST THE PARKING LOT, WE'LL START TO TRANSITION BACK DOWN.
WHEN WE GET TO HERE, WE'RE BACK TO THE CITY STANDARD, BACK TO A 2% CROSS SLOPE EACH WAY AS WE HAD IN THE OTHER PICTURE, AND WE'RE BACK TO 28 FEET WIDE.
GOING TO THE NEXT PAGE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS TOP OF THE CURVE HAS TO BE LOWER THAN THAT LOWER SIDE OF THAT RIGHT AWAY THAT WE SHOWED YOU IN THAT PICTURE.
WHEN YOU GET HALFWAY, YOU'LL COME BACK DOWN, THAT'S THE CROWN OF YOUR ROAD.
BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO MEET THIS ELEVATION UP HERE AND KEEP THIS PLAQUE AT A 2% TO BE 88 COMPLIANT BECAUSE THAT IS A SPECIAL NEEDS FACILITY.
WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN DROP OFF AND HAVE PARKING FOR EVERYONE.
WE WERE ABLE TO RUN A 2% UP, KEEP IT SUPER ELEVATED ALL THE WAY THROUGH INSTEAD OF BREAKING DOWN, JUST CONTINUE PROJECTING IT OUT.
WE'LL HAVE A FOUR INCH RAISE CURVE HERE.
WE'LL PUT OUR SIX INCH DRIVEWAY, OR PARKING LOT IN HERE.
WHEN WE GET TO WHERE THOSE BOULDERS ARE THAT I WAS SHOWING YOU, WE'RE GOING TO COME FOUR FOOT, AND CUT.
WE'LL PUT A PAVEMENT HEADER IN HERE TO LOCK THIS IN, AND A DOW, AND THEN WE'LL REINFORCE IT WITH CEMENT STABILIZED SAND TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECTS TO THE FOUNDATION OR LIMIT THE EFFECTS OF THE FOUNDATION HERE AT THIS AREA.
NOW WE'RE HERE, AND JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL THE WAY IT'S GOING TO LOOK WHEN WE'RE DONE HERE IN THIS AREA.
AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE COME IN, THE FRONT DOOR'S HERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND PARK HERE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEPT AS MANY PARKING SPACES AS WE COULD, WITHIN THE SAME LIMITS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE AN EXISTING FIRE HYDRANT, AND MOVE IT OVER HERE.
WE'LL PULL THIS LITTLE AVE THAT'S OUT THERE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO PUT IN A VAN ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPOT, WHICH IS 11 FOOT TO WHERE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A VAN THAT WANTS TO COME TO THIS PLACE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PARK THE VAN IN.
WE'LL HAVE A FIVE FOOT SPACE HERE FOR THEM TO GET OUT, COME AROUND, AND COME BACK UP THE RAMP.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PLACE FOR A HANDICAP VEHICLE.
THEN WE'LL CONTINUE IT ON TO WHERE WE CAN'T KEEP THE 20 FOOT LENGTH, WHICH IS ALMOST RIGHT WHERE IT GOES BACK, AND WE'LL BRING EVERYTHING BACK IN, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD AND THE SIDEWALK STARTS GOING BACK TO WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM 24 BACK TO 28, AND THEN MOVING BACK OVER TO THE CENTER OF THE ROADWAY.
WITH THE PROJECT, WHEN WE HAVE TO CUT DOWN THE ROAD, WE'VE GOT THE PHASING PLANS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER AND THE DETOUR PLANS PUT TOGETHER, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SHOW YOU JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE IS THIS LITTLE PICTURE HERE.
BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION DROP HERE, SOMEBODY CAN REALLY HURT THEIR VEHICLE OR GET HURT SO MUTCD BECAUSE OF THAT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A LOW PROFILE BARRIER WHICH WILL MEAN WE'LL HAVE TO PUT SOME TEMPORARY PAVEMENT IN HERE TO ALLOW CARS TO SCOOT OVER SO WE'LL HAVE 11 FOOT PATHWAY OR A 10 FOOT PATHWAY FROM THAT LOW PROFILE BARRIER.
WHEN WE FLIP OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, WE WON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
WE CAN JUST USE BARRELS, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, AT THE DRIVEWAYS AT THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSES, WE'LL HAVE PAY ITEMS FOR TEMPORARY DRIVEWAYS TO WHERE ONCE THEY REMOVE THE ROAD AND THEY STABILIZE IT, THEY MAY NOT COME BACK TO POUR THE CONCRETE FOR A WHILE, SO IT'LL HAVE SOME TEMPORARY DRIVEWAYS WHERE THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS, THEY'LL COME AND REMOVE THEM WHEN THEY'RE READY TO PAVE.
WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THE IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S DAILY ACTIVITIES AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS COORDINATION EFFORTS HERE.
THEY HAD MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADA COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING WITH THAT BEING A SPECIAL NEEDS PLACE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR MAJOR CONCERNS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, AFTER THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE THEM WHAT WE HAVE SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW IT AND MAKE ANY CALL.
PARKING. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THE PARKING UP FRONT,
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AND WE WENT FROM A 19-28 FOOT.THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO SWING THAT ROAD OVER ALSO BY SOME ELEVATIONS.
THEN, THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE BUILDING IS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO STILL ACCESS THAT FRONT DOOR.
THAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
I GAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE MARSHALL ALUMNI ASSOCIATION.
I'VE GOT TO UPDATE THEM ABOUT THE TRANSITIONS.
THAT WAS NOT IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT I'LL LET THEM KNOW.
BUT WHAT THEIR COMMENTS WERE BACK TO US, AND THEY SENT US AN EMAIL IS THEY WOULD LIKE THE PROJECT TO BE EXTENDED PAST WEST LIVE OAK TO CEDAR STREET.
THE REASON WHY IS THE BAPTIST CHURCH, HAS BEEN THERE, AND ONE OF THE COMMUNITY HUBS IS PLANNING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE WHERE THEIR PARKING IS, AND THEY REALLY WANT TO EXTEND THAT UP THERE TO HELP WITH THAT TRANSITION THERE IN THAT AREA.
THE OTHER THING THAT THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE CUTTING THE ROAD IN, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ROADWAY EXCAVATION.
THEY'VE ASKED US THEY'RE WANTING COUNCIL TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY INSTEAD OF HAVING THE CONTRACTOR HAUL THAT FILL OFF IS TO TAKE THAT FILL, AND SPREAD IT, AND DO A GRADING PLAN ON THAT GRASS FIELD IN THERE THAT HOLDS WATER, AND HAS SOME LITTLE DEBTS AND STUFF THAT HOLDS WATER.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR AT LEAST TO STOP PILOT OR POTENTIALLY MORE GRADED, PUT IT IN THERE AND GRADE IT TO WHERE THEY GET SOME POSITIVE FLOW TO WHETHER IT BE THE STREET OR WHATNOT.
THE OTHER ONE IS THEY REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS OF INGRESS, AND EGRESS.
THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME NEWER DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY WANT TO EXTEND PARISH TO GET THAT NORTH SOUTH GOING OR COLUMBIA TO ANCHOR ROAD TO WHERE THEY CAN GET MORE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC, GET PEOPLE EASIER ACCESS TO THAT AREA OF TOWN.
THAT WAS THEIR COMMENTS. [NOISE] LOOKING AT THE ITEMS HERE, GENERAL ITEMS, PAVING, DRAINAGE.
THIS COMES OUT TO BE ABOUT 2.8 MILLION, ON THIS PROJECT.
GOING ON TO THE NEXT, IS SILVER SADDLE.
>> JOHN, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THIS?
>> ON THAT ONE, WE'VE GOT IT SUBMITTED TO TXDOT BECAUSE TXDOT HAS TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE WE'RE TYING THEIR FACILITIES UP IN THE FRONT SO THAT'S IN PROCESS.
WE'VE GOTTEN UTILITIES PRETTY MUCH TAKEN CARE OF.
I JUST NEED TO UPDATE AISD, AND I THINK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GO TO GO ON THAT.
>> WHEN DID YOU SUBMIT YOUR PLAN TO TXDOT?
>> I THINK WE SUBMITTED IT LAST WEEK WHEN WE DONE IT.
I'LL FIND OUT CECIL. I'M PRETTY SURE.
>> GOD. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A YEAR AGO.
THE HYDROLOGY DEPARTMENT IS FOREVER GETTING THE DECISION MADE.
>> YES, SIR. SILVER SADDLE IS A SMALL ASPHALT ROADWAY RUNNING THERE OFF OF BRONCO BEND, A LITTLE OF A CIRCLE AROUND BRONCO BEND.
THE EXISTING PAVEMENT NARROWS DOWN AS IT GETS TO THAT WEST SIDE, GOES DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY 11, 10, AND 12 FOOT WIDE, WHERE ONLY ONE CAR CAN GO THROUGH IT.
THERE'S ZERO DRAINAGE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
REASON WHY THE ROAD'S FAILING.
OUR PROPOSED CROSS SECTION WAS TO GO IN, AND PUT AN 18 FOOT ELEVATED ASPHALT ROADWAY, NOT CHANGING THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER EIGHT INCHES OF BLACK BASE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK, AND CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WHERE THEY CAN OPEN UP TRAFFIC AT THE END OF THE DAY BECAUSE THAT HAS SOME STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS TO IT.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ELEVATIONS.
ELEVATION SHOULD REMAIN APPROXIMATELY THE SAME.
WE'VE FIGURED OUT THE DRAINAGE AREA, AND WHICH WAY THE DRAINAGE COMES, PART OF THIS DOES COME BACK THIS WAY.
REST OF THIS IS ALL COMING BACK THAT WAY. GO TO THE NEXT.
THE HARDEST THING ON THIS ONE WAS BECAUSE I GOT SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL TREES OUT THERE.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO DAMAGE THE TREES SO WE'RE
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CHANGING FROM ONE SIDE OF THE STREET TO THE OTHER TO AVOID DAMAGING THE TREES.ESSENTIALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE PLAYING LIKE CLINCO COMING DOWN, COMING OVER, BACK UP, OVER, BACK DOWN, OUT.
WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE ANY DAMAGE TO THE TREES.
WHERE THE ROADWAY IS GETTING WIDER.
WE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS TO PULL THIS OVER TO WHERE IT'S MORE CONTINUOUS.
THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT I'VE MET AND VISITED WITH THEM ON THAT. GO TO THE NEXT.
THE OTHER ONE IS JUST SOME REGRADING, AND CONTINUING ON THE ROAD TILL WE GET TO THE 18 FOOT.
WHEN WE HAD OUR COUNCIL WORKSHOP THERE, SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THE OUTFALL IS, THE PAVING, WHERE THE PIPE CROSSES THE ROAD.
WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL QUANTITIES FOR THAT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL DESIGN.
IT'S JUST NOT PART OF THE PLANS.
YES, WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING AT A RESIDENT'S HOUSE THERE.
WE ACTUALLY WALKED THE STREET AND THEN I WENT BACK, AND WALKED THE STREET MYSELF TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING LINED OUT RIGHT AND MET WITH SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS THERE AT THAT TIME, AND WALKED THEM THROUGH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THAT'S WHY THEY SAID, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU PULL IT OVER TO US? WE'LL GLADLY HAVE THE ROAD COME OVER THAT WAY.
DOESN'T AFFECT THE STATICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, WE GOT ALL THE ITEMS UP COMES OUT TO ABOUT 510,000 FOR THAT.
AGAIN, THERE'S SOME MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS IN THERE.
THIS IS JUST A BUDGET, COULD COME IN HIGHER, HOPEFULLY SHOULD COME IN LOWER.
WITH THAT, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT 3.4 MILLION FOR BOTH PARISH AND SILVER SADDLE.
>> ON SILVER SADDLE, DID YOU MAKE THE DRAINAGE CHANGE ON THAT THE RESIDENT MENTIONED WHERE THAT CULVERT'S FAILING?
>> WE GOT ITEMS IN THERE FOR IT. IT'S IN THE BID.
>> JOHN, DOES THIS PRICE EXTENDS UP FARTHER AS RESIDENTS HAD ASK, OR IS IT LIMITED TO WHAT COUNCIL HAS TOLD US TO DO?
>> LIMITED TO WHAT COUNCIL HAS TOLD US TO DO.
WE HAVEN'T MOVED IT FROM WHERE COUNCIL HAS TOLD US TO DO.
OTHER THAN THAT REPAIR WHERE THAT PIPE'S COMING ACROSS, WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT AREA IN THERE.
>> YOU SAID YOU THINK SILVER SADDLE WILL BE CHEAPER THAN THAT 509?
>> I THINK THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY.
WE'VE GOTTEN SOME DECENT PRICES HERE RECENTLY, JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE OPENED UP A BID IN ONE OF MY CLIENTS IF HE CAME IN, BUT I WANT TO STAY WITH THE MEAN THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
>> BUT YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE PARISH WILL BE LOWER?
>> PARISH IS GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT STREET.
PARISH IS A VERY DIFFICULT STREET.
WHEN YOU GO IN RETROFIT IN AN ESTABLISHED AREA WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE OF FUNCTIONALITY OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT.
>> WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON SILVER SADDLE?
>> THAT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE OF THOSE TWO, SO IT'S TIED UP WITH THE TXDOT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S TIED UP IN THE SAME ONE.
>> WE ACTUALLY GOT TO HAVE TXDOT APPROVE OF THIS BECAUSE WE'RE REGRADING A DITCH ON BRONCO BEND BACK TO 28 TO GET THE DEPTH, WE NEED TO RUN THE 18 BACK UP.
>> HAS THAT BEEN SUBMITTED? I BELIEVE SO LAST WEEK, YES, SIR.
>> WHAT'S THE TIMELINE USUALLY ON TXDOT APPROVAL A YEAR?
>> IT DEPENDS. I'M GOING TO CALL MARIA.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PLANS WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT THE 2024 WATER LINE.
WE'VE GOT THE 288 B UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS WITH THEM, AND NOW THIS.
I'M GOING TO CALL HER SEE WHAT SHE CAN DO TO ASSIST THE CITY ON THOSE THREE.
>> I HATE TO HOLD SILVER SADDLE HOSTAGE.
>> DECAYING. THE CANADIAN IMPACT. IT TAKES A YEAR.
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>> WE COULD, IF YOU'D LIKE, IS TO SPLIT IT OUT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE REGRADING THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DEPTH OUT THERE.
WE GOT TO REGRADE THE DITCH BACK TO 288 B TO GET THE DEPTH.
THAT DITCH IS GOING TO BE DEEPER RIGHT THERE ALONG BRONCO BEND.
WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE TURN RADIUSES, AND THAT COAL WORK THAT'S CRUSHED OR BENT UP, THAT'LL ALL BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THAT.
>> IS THERE A WAY YOU COULD SPEAK WITH MARIA, AND ASK HER IF WE WERE TO SPLIT THAT OUT, AT LEAST THAT ITEM COULD PERHAPS MOVE THROUGH A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN BEING ATTACHED TO THE REST?
>> YES, SIR 100% BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A MAINTENANCE MOPPING OF A DITCH THAT USED TO BE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT THE EXISTING CULVERT FLOW LINE WAS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT DITCH IS SO MAYBE SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK. WE'LL FIND OUT.
>> I'M JUST SAYING IF SHE THINKS THAT SPLITTING THEM UP OR HOWEVER YOU WOULD CALL IT WOULD PERHAPS HELP EXPEDITE.
>> THAT'S DEFINITELY A PHONE CALL WE'LL MAKE TOMORROW.
>> CAN YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL WHEN YOU GET A YES OR NO AND I'LL REPORT TO THE COUNCIL?
>> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE?
>> HEY, JOHN. THANK YOU FOR ALL UPDATES.
>> I WILL SAY THIS. FOR ME, PERHAPS EVENTUALLY IN SOME MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, YOU WOULD RUN PARISH OUT TO ANCHOR.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY FOR ANOTHER MUCH FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
>> BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN, AND I KNOW ALL THIS IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT HE'S SPOKEN ABOUT IT BEFORE, MIGHT WANT TO FACTOR THAT INTO.
>> THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A RECORD SOMEWHERE, SO I DON'T KNOW. PLEASE WRITE IT DOWN.
>> I'D LIKE TO JUMP BACK TO A QUESTION I WAS ASKED EARLIER, ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO ON HENDERSON TALKED ABOUT REQUIRING THE RIGHT AWAY, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THAT.
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS I HAD TO LOOK ALL THROUGH THE LIST.
BUT WE CAN DO SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] AND GO AHEAD AND GET THEM DONE.
WE JUST ENHANCES THAT WE SEND TO HTAC LOOK WE'VE ALREADY DONE THESE THINGS.
WE'RE ALL NEGATIVE. IT'S ALWAYS THAT'S ALWAYS A POSITIVE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SAID, PARISH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN MAKE IT WORK.
>> SEEMS? FROM A TOTAL LAY PERSON, IT SEEMS LIKE IT DID A GOOD JOB.
>> A LOT OF CHALLENGES. THANK YOU, JOHN.
[17. Update and discussion on the water bill contributions for retired firefighters and retired Emergency Management Service (EMS) volunteers.]
UPDATE DISCUSSION ON THE WATER BILL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR RETIRED FIREFIGHTERS AND RETIRED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES VOLUNTEERS.>> GOOD EVENING. I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE CITY MANAGER TO UPDATE YOU ON THE WATER BILL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR RETIRED FIREFIGHTERS AND RETIRED EMS VOLUNTEERS.
SINCE THE TIME THAT I SUBMITTED THIS TO THE CITY SECRETARY, THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER INFORMATION I'VE RECEIVED.
THIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO FIND BECAUSE IT GOES BACK MANY YEARS.
ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, THE INITIAL PARAGRAPH SHOULD SAY ON AN UNDETERMINED DATE BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE DATE THAT THIS PROGRAM BEGAN, BUT ACCORDING TO THE INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, SUI HERNANDEZ, SHE DOES KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE AT LEAST 1997.
IT GOES BACK AT LEAST 27 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING TO THE RETIRED VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND VOLUNTEER EMS PERSONNEL, A STIPEND THAT WAS COVERING THE BASE WATER, SEWAGE AND GARBAGE RATES.
THEN ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2002, AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CONTRIBUTIONS WERE CHANGED TO GRANDFATHER AND THOSE VOLUNTEERS WHO WERE ACTIVE AT THAT TIME,
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AND ANYONE COMING IN AFTER JANUARY 1, 2003 WAS EXCLUDED FROM THAT CONTRIBUTION.SOMEWHERE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THAT WE WERE CONTRIBUTING THIS MONEY TO THESE INDIVIDUALS AND ADVISED US AGAINST DOING SO.
WHILE WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT AND NOTIFY THE INDIVIDUALS, APPARENTLY, THE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED, FINANCE SENT A BILL OUT TO THESE INDIVIDUALS BEFORE THE FIRE CHIEF WAS ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
A TIMELY NOTIFICATION OF WHAT WAS TRANSPIRING WAS NOT DONE.
AS OF THE OCTOBER 25TH, 2024 INVOICE, ACCORDING TO THE UTILITY BILLING SUPERVISOR, THAT STIPEND HAS BEEN REMOVED AND HAS NOT BEEN RE ADDED.
IT IMPACTS 11 RETIRED VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.
SHE PROVIDED ME TO VOLUNTEER EMS PERSONNEL, BUT, OF COURSE, WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER SINCE THAT TIME, SO IT WOULD BE THREE.
THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT ITEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING ON THAT.
>> WELL, I HAVE SASS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SO I'LL LET THEM COME UP NOW.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY TO LEARN THAT THE WATER BILL CONTRIBUTION FOR THE FIRE RETIREES AND THE 20 YEAR EMS VOLUNTEERS WILL FINALLY BE DISCUSSED AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.
IT APPEARS THAT YOU WERE NOT INITIALLY INVOLVED WITH THIS DECISION OR THE PROCESS THAT HAS LED TO A VERY NEGATIVE SITUATION.
HOWEVER, HAVING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS A MEANINGFUL STEP FORWARD, AND I APPRECIATE IT BEING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
HOWEVER, I MUST EXPRESS MY CONCERN REGARDING THE HANDLING OF COMMUNICATIONS INVOLVING CHIEF HEIRS WITH THE EMS. HE WAS NEVER NOTIFIED, NOR WERE ANY OF OUR PEOPLE IN THE FIRE AND EMS PERSONNEL.
THE MANNER IN WHICH THE SITUATION UNFOLDED HAS LEFT MANY FEELING DISRESPECTED.
THE MISINFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE EMS CHIEF AFTER THE STAFF RECEIVED THEIR LETTERS WAS BOTH UNCALLED FOR AND UNPROFESSIONAL.
SUCH ACTIONS CAN HAVE A LASTING NEGATIVE EFFECT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AAMC NOW ONLY HAS TWO REMAINING MEMBERS IN THE POOL.
MISS GOFF PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR, SHE WAS THE ONLY THIRD MEMBER.
FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ABOUT TEN, A MODEST NUMBER FOR THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN OVER 20 YEARS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THE CITY.
IN REGARD TO EMS, IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT THOSE MEMBERS WILL GROW OVER THE NEXT 1-2 YEARS.
MOST OF OUR VOLUNTEERS HAVE MOVED OUT OF THE CITY OR NEVER LIVED IN THE CITY.
WITH THE BENEFIT PROVIDED, THEY MAY NEVER FULLY CONVEY THE GRATITUDE THEY DESERVE, BUT NONETHELESS IT WAS VALUED AND VERY APPRECIATED.
SOME OF THE AFFECTED RESPONDERS AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE UNDERSTANDABLY UPSET.
AGAIN, WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT THIS HAS COME TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
I URGE YOU AND THE COUNCIL TO REINSTATE THIS SMALL BENEFIT AND TO ENSURE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE TREATED WITH THE RESPECT AND RECOGNITION THAT THEY HAVE EARNED, AND APOLOGY FOR THE HANDLING OF THIS MATTER WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS REBUILDING GOODWILL AND TRUST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. SCOTT MYERS. MAYOR.
>> COUNSEL. THANK YOU ALL FOR LET ME GIVE A FEW MINUTES.
I TRY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY.
COLLEEN ALREADY GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT.
IN MARCH 9TH, 2000, I JOINED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IN AUGUST 8TH OF 2018, I JOINED MY FIRST SHIFT AS A UMS ALL VOLUNTEER.
IN 2000, WE GOT A MONTHLY WATER ROLL.
IT WAS ABOUT 15 BUCKS A MONTH, IS WHAT WE WERE GETTING.
THOSE GOOD STANDINGS MEANT WE HAD TO MAKE 25% OF THE CALLS, AND WE HAD TO MEET AT LEAST 20 HOURS OF CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR THE YEAR.
SINCE THOSE GOOD STANDINGS, BACK THEN, WE WERE RUNNING 150 200 CALLS A YEAR.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 11-13 A YEAR.
OUR REQUIREMENTS HAVE JUMPED TO 40 HOURS.
OUR ROOKIE SCHOOL IS ABOUT 200 HOURS, HAZMAT CERTIFICATION, RESCUE CERTIFICATION.
I'VE ALWAYS BRAGGED ON THE GUYS HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE TO PUT IN TO STAY IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE STATE AND THE DEPARTMENT.
THE 11 VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE RETIREES THAT ARE ON THE ROLE,
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NONE OF WHICH PUT 20 PLUS YEARS IN THIS CITY FOR FREE.TWO ARE BETWEEN THE 15 AND THE 20 YEAR MARK.
WE REQUIRE 15 YEAR TIME FRAME.
IN THE POOL, AS COLLEEN SAID, THAT 2003 DEADLINE, IN THAT POOL, THERE'S ONLY SIX GUYS LEFT IN THE MEMBERSHIP, AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE SIX HAVE 20 PLUS YEARS THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS CITY.
AS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM, WE'RE A TIGHT KNIT GROUP OF PEOPLE.
WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE, WE TAKE CARE OF OUR RETIREES.
WHEN THEY RETIRE, THAT DON'T MEAN THEY WALK AWAY.
THESE GUYS THEY WENT AND REMODELED A RETIREE'S HOUSE TO MAKE IT WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE.
THEY BUILT WHEELCHAIR GRAMS. THEY TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF MY PEOPLE.
THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY GETTING IT AND THE ONES THAT DESERVE TO GET IT? 20 YEARS IS A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
THIS LITTLE STIPEND, IT'S MINIMAL.
IT'S PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR FOR WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN YOU.
SO HERE I AM ASKING YOU, PLEASE RECONSIDER AND SHOW THESE RETIREES YOUR APPRECIATION AS WELL. THANK YOU.
>>THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MISS GRADY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN, SURE? I KNOW IT'S A VERY UNPOPULAR STANCE.
I HAD TO TAKE THE SAME STANCE LAST NIGHT AT A MEETING IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY FOR A DIFFERENT CITY OVER MAINTAINING DITCHES IN THE FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
BUT THE STATE CONSTITUTION ADOPTED IN 18 76 PROHIBITS THE SPENDING OF PUBLIC MONEY FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR TO INDIVIDUALS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN 1999 OR WHENEVER IT WAS ADOPTED.
ARTICLE 3, SECTION 51 SAYS THE LEGISLATURE, WHICH AS Y'ALL, SHALL HAVE NO POWER TO MAKE ANY GRANT OR AUTHORIZE THE MAKING OF ANY GRANT OF PUBLIC MONIES TO ANY INDIVIDUAL, ASSOCIATION OF INDIVIDUALS, MUNICIPAL, OR OTHER CORPORATIONS WHATSOEVER, PROVIDED THAT PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION SHOD NOT BE CONSTRUED TO PREVENT THE GRANT OF AD IN CASE OF A PUBLIC CALAMITY.
ARTICLE 16, SECTION 6 OF THE CONSTITUTION SAYS NO APPROPRIATION FOR PRIVATE OR INDIVIDUAL PURPOSES SHALL BE MADE UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THIS CONSTITUTION.
THIS CONSTITUTION DOES NOT AUTHORIZE IT.
IN THIS SITUATION, IT JUST IS NOT ILLEGAL, IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS.
THE GOVERNMENT CODE GOES IN AND SAYS THE SAME THING.
THEN THE PENAL CODE PUTS TEETH IN IT.
IN CHAPTER AND I KNOW I'M PREACHING TO ASSISTANT DA, BUT THE PENAL CODE 39, SECTION 2A2C SAYS THIS IS AN ABUSE OF OFFICE, AND IT IS PUNISHABLE FROM A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR, WHICH IS THE LEAST CRIME TO A THIRD DEGREE FELONY FOR A PUBLIC OFFICIAL WHO KNOWINGLY MISAPPROPRIATES FUNDS.
FRANKLY, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO LEGALLY OR THE VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE SACRIFICED FOR THE CITY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU CAN'T JUST CAN'T DO IT.
>> I'M NOT GIVING UP JUST YET.
BUT I FIRST WANT TO SAY TO ALL OF THE GUY LADIES AND MEN THAT HAVE SPENT ALL THEIR YEARS WORKING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I'M SORRY FROM MY SIDE OF THE WAY YOU WERE NOTIFIED.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE JULY WORKSHOP.
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THAT IT WAS ONLINE, AND IT WAS HERE PUBLICLY.IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND IT WAS DISCUSSED.
THEN WE GOT INTO BUDGET, AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK MORE ABOUT BUDGET.
BUT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE ALL THOUGHT WAS HANDLED AND IT WASN'T.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO SAY I'M SORRY.
BACK IN ANGLETON, BACK IN THE LATE 90S, ANGLETON DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY OF OF GIVING SOMETHING OF APPRECIATION TO THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WERE WORKING WITHOUT PAYING THEM FOR IT.
NOW WE HAVE A RETIREMENT FUND FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
WE DIDN'T REALLY DO THAT MUCH BACK THEN.
IS THERE AND THIS IS JUST ME THINKING OUTSIDE BOX.
YOU SAY WE CAN'T MISAPPROPRIATE FUNDS BY DOING IT THIS WAY.
BUT IS THERE ANOTHER AVENUE WHICH WE CAN? CAN WE PROVIDE THAT AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD BE GETTING FOR THEIR AVERAGE OF THEIR WATER BILL AS RETIREMENT? CAN WE RETROACTIVELY GO BACK AND FOR THOSE GUYS THAT ARE LEFT, AGREE TO A RETIREMENT FOR THEIR SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THEFT, IT'S SERVICE TO THE CITY.
AND WE ARE PAYING THEM BACK FOR IT, JUST LIKE WE DO OUR CURRENT FIREFIGHTERS.
>> LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
FIRST, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 11 THAT THEY REFERRED TO, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CURRENT VOLUNTEERS?
>> WELL, THIS WAS STOPPED WHATEVER DATE.
>> IT WAS BACK STOPPED IN 2012 IS WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS, BUT THEN SOMEBODY ELSE SAID 2002.
>> IT WAS ACTUALLY STOPPED FOR ANY GOING FORWARD ON JANUARY 1, 2003.
>> THERE ARE ACCORDING TO SCOTT, A COUPLE OF GUYS LEFT SIX.
I WOULD BE INCLUDING THOSE SIX AS WELL.
ONCE THEY HIT THE MARK, THOUGH, IF THEY'RE STILL ACTIVE, THEN THEY'RE FALLING INTO THE SAME PROGRAM.
BUT I'M ONLY REFERRING TO THE ONES THAT ARE ON THIS LIST RIGHT NOW.
>> EXCLUDING THE SIX RIGHT NOW.
THE 1011 AND FIRE AND THREE OR TWO.
>> THERE ARE 11 AND FIRE AND THREE.
THERE ARE TWO ON THE CHART, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE WE'RE ADDING.
THE INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS NOT NO LONGER HERE.
I DON'T HAVE THAT NAME LISTED.
I HAVE TWO OTHERS, SO MAYBE YOU COULD LOOK AT IT. YES.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE IN A VOLUNTEER.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING NEW PEOPLE THAT WERE VOLUNTEERS PRIOR TO IT BEING CUT OFF IN 2002?
I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THESE SIX.
THESE 11 FIRE TWO EMS. THAT'S IT.
>> MUCH LIKE YOU CAN'T GIVE BONUSES TO CITY EMPLOYEES.
I'M ASSUMING THEY WERE CITIZENS OF THE CITY STILL ARE.
>> STILL ARE? THEY GET THEY'RE NOT LIVING IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY OR APJ.
THE PROBLEM IS A RETRO I STOPPED IN OCTOBER.
SO WHEN YOU SAY RETROACTIVE, ARE YOU SAYING BACK TO OCTOBER OR ARE YOU SAYING FOR THOSE VOLUNTEERS?
>> JUST FOR THOSE VOLUNTEERS. MOVING FORWARD.
>> ARE THE VOLUNTEERS COMPENSATED IN ANY WAY NOW?
>> WELL, RETIREES GET A STIPEND.
>> RETIREES GET THE [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S IT.
>> THE CURRENT RETIREES HAVE A PLAN.
LIKE, WHEN YOU VOLUNTEER, YOU NOW HAVE A RETIREMENT PROGRAM.
>> JIM WARDEN WILL SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE, WHAT THE RETIREMENT PLAN IS CURRENTLY.
>> GOOD EVENING. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A PENSION PROGRAM WITH THE STATE, AND THAT MATURES AFTER 15 YEARS OF SERVICE AND THE AGE OF 55,
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YOU CAN DRAW THAT RETIREMENT.I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
I WANT TO SAY IT'S 130, 140, MAYBE IS WHAT THE CITY PUTS IN FOR EACH ONE OF THESE GUYS.
WAS IT 170? IT WENT UP THIS YEAR.
THAT'S WHERE THE RETIREMENT COMES FROM.
>> BUT THE CITY PUTS A PORTION IN?
>> YES. THE CITY PUTS A PORTION INTO A RETIREMENT FUND THAT'S SET UP BY THE STATE.
>> BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE PAST?
>> NO. FOR THE RETIREES, THAT DIDN'T EXIST, IF IT DID, IT WAS A $5 OR $6.
THE OTHER PIECE I WANT TO CLARIFY IS THE PAPER CALL THAT WE RECEIVED, THAT IS A REIMBURSEMENT FOR US, NOT NECESSARILY PAY.
>> WHERE I'M ANGLING FOR ALL THIS IS IF IT IS PART OF THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAT YOU PAY FOR CALLS, AND I'M THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX HERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET CHALLENGED ON THIS, JUST SAYING.
>> WELL, NO, I KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL EITHER.
I'M THINKING PART OF THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE GOING FORWARD FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE RUNS THAT ARE ACTIVE IS PART OF THAT IS A CREDIT ON THE WATER BILL, OUR REIMBURSEMENT OF THAT ON THE WATER BILL LIKE YOU'RE COMPING.
IT'S A FALLACY TO TRY TO COMPARE IT TO THE BUSINESS WORLD BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE DO DEALING WITH PUBLIC MONEY.
THIS SECTION OF THE CONSTITUTION I QUOTED WAS LITERALLY PASSED FEBRUARY 15TH, 1876, AND AMENDED ONCE IN 1966.
>> HAS IT EVER BEEN CHALLENGED?
>> I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK ANY OF THAT, BUT CITY ATTORNEY 101 IS YOU CANNOT SPEND PUBLIC FUNDS FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES.
THEY TRY TO SHOEHORN IN A PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND A PUBLIC PURPOSE IS FIREFIGHTING.
>> THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, OUTSIDE THE BOX IN AN OPEN MEETING TRYING TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, BUT THAT STILL LEAVES THOSE THAT ARE RETIRED AND NOT MAKING CALLS.
I DON'T WANT THEM LEFT OUT IN THE COLD, EITHER, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE LEGAL WHATEVER YOU DO.
>> IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE OFFLINE AND FIGURE OUT?
I'LL DO A LITTLE SURVEY OF SOME CITY ATTORNEYS TO SEE.
>> BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY I ASKED ABOUT THIS YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY COMMON THAT THERE WERE OTHER CITIES DOING THIS.
>> WE STILL HAVE THOSE CITIES DOING IT TODAY.
>> IT IS SUGGESTED BY THE US FIRE ADMINISTRATION WITH THEIR LAST UPDATED RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT FOR THE VOLUNTEER EMERGENCY SERVICES CHALLENGES AND SOLUTIONS, MAY OF 2007, WHERE IT EXPLAINS INDIRECT MONETARY INCENTIVES THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE TO HELP RETAIN YOUR VOLUNTEERS, AND ONE OF THOSE IS EXEMPTIONS FROM LOCAL UTILITY BILLS.
>> THAT'S FINE ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL?
>> THIS IS FROM THE US FIRE ADMINISTRATION.
>> BUT I'M TRYING TO JOB IT WITH THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.
I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES IF THEY HAD A REC CENTER, PART OF THE COMPENSATION FOR CITY EMPLOYEES IS YOU GET EITHER REDUCED OR YOU DON'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP.
>> IF IT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE THERE, WHY ISN'T GOOD FOR THE GANDER ON VOLUNTEER FIREMEN, BUT AGAIN, I HAVE TO LOOK AT VOLUNTEERS VERSUS EMPLOYEES.
THE PUBLIC PURPOSE TO ME IS EASY.
IT'S FIREFIGHTING. THAT'S A GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION.
IT'S JUST STRAIGHT OUT PAYING RETIREES IS THE PROBLEM, BUT I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND SOMETHING.
>> BUT IF WE'RE DOING IT FOR FIRE AND EMS, WHY WOULDN'T WE DO IT FOR POLICE ALSO?
>> I GUESS THAT WOULD MAKE IT COMPENSATION FOR THEIR EMPLOYMENT OR
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SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE COMPENSATION.YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. YOU COULD FACTOR THAT IN. THIS IS DIFFERENT.
>> THERE WAS A CITY IN CENTRAL TEXAS WHERE THEY WERE GIVING THAT CITY SHIRTS, AND THE IRS CAME IN AND AUDITED THE CITY AND THEN CHARGED THE EMPLOYEES THAT SHIRT AS COMPENSATION.
WE DON'T WANT THAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAX ON YOUR WATER BILL.
>> I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO GET THROUGH THIS.
>> YES, SIR. I KNEW YOU WERE TO COME UP THAT'S WHY I CALLED ON YOU EARLIER.
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RIGHT OR NOT, BUT I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THE DONATIONS THAT ASSISTANTS PUT ON THE WATER BILL THAT DONATE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS, THE DONATION MONEY CAN BE USED.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN PUT THAT MONEY WHERE THEY WANT, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE EARMARKED WHERE IT GOES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION OR SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.
>> YOU WERE HOLDING BACK ON US THIS WHOLE TIME.
COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY ON THIS?
>> IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTION OF LEGALITY FOR PAST COUNCIL DECISIONS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BEING PUT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SO THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS WHEN IT WAS DECIDED ON.
>> WAS THERE AN ACTION ITEM ON THIS?
>> NO. WAS THERE AN ACTION ITEM TO REMOVE IT?
>> IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE. I DIDN'T REMEMBER.
>> WE DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING OF THE BUDGET, BUT IT NEVER CAME BACK.
>> I'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND.
>> I'VE A HARD TIME FINDING A RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON THAT WEREN'T IN SUPPORT WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
>> CONSTITUTIONALLY, IT'S HARD. IT'S JUST THEIR HEART.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THE MONEY THAT'S DONATED ON THE WATER BILLS FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS, WE COLLECT THAT MONEY FOR THE CITIZENS, AND AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WE GIVE THAT BACK TO THEM.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM THEM, YOU'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THAT MONEY THAT YOU'RE GIVING THEM SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN.
>> BUT I THEORIZE IF THEY WANT TO DONATE THE MONEY BACK TO PAY FOR SELECTED INDIVIDUALS, THEY CAN DONATE THE MONEY BACK FOR THAT.
>> THEY CAN REDUCE THAT $900 A MONTH.
BASICALLY, THAT'S HOW MUCH IT IS FOR ALL 13, BUT THAT'S MONEY THAT THE CITY COLLECTS AS DONATIONS, AND AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THE CITY GIVES IT BACK TO THEM.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 17? SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO US.
I WANT TO THANK YOU-ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU-ALL COMING OUT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND.
[18. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20250114-018 consenting to the City of Angleton’s participation in Texas Class Investment Pool consistent with Chapter 2256 of Texas Local Government Code and naming authorized signers. ]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20250114-018, CONSENTING TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON'S PARTICIPATION IN TEXAS CLASS INVESTMENT POOL, CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 2256 OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND NAMING AUTHORIZED SIGNERS. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM IS SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO THE $4 MILLION EMERGENCY LOAN THAT WE RECEIVED ON NOVEMBER 7TH.
CURRENTLY, THAT DEPOSIT SITS IN WHAT WE CALL OUR ICS SWEEP ACCOUNT.
THAT ACCOUNT IS USED WHEN THE BALANCE OF OUR DAILY AVERAGE EXCEEDS OUR ALLOWABLE LIMIT.
WE HAVE MOVED THAT MONEY OVER TO THE SWEEP ACCOUNT, WHICH GAINS 2%.
HOWEVER, THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT ADVISES THAT YOU DIVERSIFY YOUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO AND YOU ALWAYS TRY TO GO FOR THE HIGHEST INTEREST RATE POSSIBLE.
WHAT I'VE SUGGESTED HERE IS THE TEXAS CLASS INVESTMENT POOL, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR IT.
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IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE ON THE INTEREST RATE.IT'S OVER 4.5% RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS DOING BETTER THAN TEXPOOL.
TEXSTAR, YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF INVESTMENTS.
YOU DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN TEXAS CLASS PRESENTLY.
BY PARTICIPATING IN TEXAS CLASS INVESTMENT POOL, THEY DO NOT REQUIRE APPROVED MEETING MINUTES.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT CAN OFTEN IMPLY A LENGTHY LEAD TIME, AND YOU REALLY WANT TO STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.
YOU WANT TO GET IN THERE, MAKE YOUR INTEREST AS QUICK AS YOU CAN BECAUSE THIS IS MONEY THAT WE ARE GOING TO QUICKLY BE USING TO COVER THE COST OF DEBRIS HAULING FROM HURRICANE BERYL.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN INVOICED FOR THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S WHY I'VE SUGGESTED THIS ONE.
YOU DO HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE THAT YOU ALREADY PARTICIPATE IN, BUT THIS ONE IS COMPETITIVE AND IT WOULD DIVERSIFY YOUR PORTFOLIO.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
SOMETHING ELSE, I'VE ALSO PROVIDED A RECOMMENDED MOTION THAT WOULD ALSO NAME THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ACCOUNT.
CURRENTLY, SUZY, WHO IS SERVING AS YOUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO MAKE WIRE TRANSFERS, AND SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> COUNCIL, DO I HAVE AN ACTION?
>> MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20250114-018 AS PRESENTED ALONG WITH [INAUDIBLE].
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.
DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?
>> MAYBE SOME OTHER PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
THIS IS A WAY TO OFFSET, THE INTEREST FOR MISS OFFSET THE INTEREST WE GOT TO PAY AGAINST THE LOAN THAT WE GOT TO TAKE OUT TO PAY FOR PAPER STUFF.
>> I WISH IT WOULD AMOUNT TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO ACCRUE INTEREST IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO OFFSET THE $63,000 OF ISSUANCE COSTS.
>> BUT IT WILL HELP, DEFINITELY. THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
>> CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, LINDSAY.
[19. Discussion and possible action on a year-to-date budget-to-actual report for the first quarter of Fiscal Year 2024-2025.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A YEAR TO DATE BUDGET TO ACTUAL REPORT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025.>> THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS REQUESTED BY MR. ROBERTS AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE ENTRIES PREPARED IN ORDER TO RUN AN ACTUAL FOR YOU.
HOWEVER, THROUGH THE TRANSITION OF PASSING THE TORCH OVER TO SUZY, WE FEEL THAT WE CAN GET REPORT TO YOU THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK, AND THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED BY EMAIL.
>> WE'RE GOOD, YES. VERY HAPPY.
>> I THINK WE'RE DOING WELL ON TAX PAYMENTS.
>> YES. WE ARE DOING PRETTY DECENTLY.
WE HAVE COLLECTED, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, $3.5 MILLION SO FAR IN PROPERTY TAXES.
SALES TAX IS DOING QUITE WELL.
IT'S GONE A LITTLE BIT DOWNWARD.
OUR LAST RECEIPT WAS 407,000, I BELIEVE, AND THAT'S DOWN FROM $550,000 APPROXIMATE FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH.
>> SINCE WE'RE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, I'LL GO AHEAD.
REGULARLY, SUZY USED TO SEND IT OFF, WAS THE SALES TAX EACH PERIOD.
I'D LIKE TO GET MY HANDS ON IT AGAIN.
I THINK THAT QUALIFIES FOR THIS SUBJECT ITEM FOR THIS QUARTER.
ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM 19 BEFORE WE MOVE 20? ITEM NUMBER 20,
[20. Discussion and possible action on a presentation of the Fiscal Year 2024 – 2025 budget book, findings, and development of a plan to balance budget. ]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 BUDGET BOOK FINDINGS[02:15:02]
AND DEVELOPMENT OF A PLAN TO BALANCE BUDGET.>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WHEN THE FORMER FINANCE DIRECTOR DEPARTED EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE BUDGET BOOK WAS NOT COMPLETED.
WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECONSTRUCT THAT BUDGET BOOK.
IN DOING SO, WE'VE MADE A FEW DISCOVERIES.
THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED BASED OFF OF FUND ALLOCATIONS PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240910-00.
>> THE SPECIFIC ALLOCATIONS ARE IN YOUR BUDGET ITEM SUMMARY.
WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WHEN WE TOTALED THOSE AMOUNTS, IT DIDN'T MEET IN EVERY FUND, WHAT THE REVENUES ANTICIPATED TO BE WERE.
WE FOUND A COUPLE OTHER DISCREPANCIES THROUGHOUT RECONSTRUCTING THE BUDGET.
WE FOUND THAT THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE WAS OVERSTATED.
WE HAD TO START FROM GROUND ZERO AND WORK OUR WAY UP.
WE FOUND THAT SEVERAL OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE FROM THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, THOSE REVISIONS WERE NOT MADE AND I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FORMER FINANCE DIRECTOR'S DEPARTURE.
WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE GONE BACK AND MADE THOSE CHANGES THAT YOU ALL HAD SUGGESTED AND REQUESTED.
WE HAD INCORPORATED THE 2% COLA.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT NUMBER WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME THAT YOU HAD ASKED FOR THAT NUMBER THAT DID MAKE AN APPROXIMATE $224,000 IMPACT TO YOUR BUDGET OVERALL.
ANOTHER THING, IN FUTURE BUDGETS, I WOULD SUGGEST IS KNOWING WHAT ONE PENNY OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE CONSTITUTES.
IN THIS BUDGET IT IS ABOUT $189,000.
THAT'S JUST A QUICK GAUGE FOR UNDERSTANDING IF YOU'RE SHORT, HOW MUCH YOU NEED TO RAISE A TAX TO COVER.
I WILL SAY IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, I WOULD SUGGEST CONSIDERING RAISING THE TAXES BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE WE WILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS YOUR RESERVES.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THEY DO NOT MEET YOUR 30% POLICY.
WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE LEANED THIS BUDGET OUT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
IN DOING SO, THE MAJOR CHANGES YOU WILL SEE FROM WHAT YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN PRESENTED WAS A REALLOCATION OF THE INSURANCE.
WE PROVIDED SOME RELIEF TO THE GENERAL FUND BY ALLOCATING INSURANCE COSTS TO THE UTILITY FUND APPROPRIATELY, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE IMPACT IS FOR THE WATER AND SEWER PLANTS AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT WOULD MORE APPROPRIATELY BELONG TO THE UTILITY FUND.
WITH THAT SAID, WE'VE ALSO DISCOVERED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT TRANSFERS FROM THE UTILITY FUND INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO BALANCE THAT BUDGET IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE. THEY CANNOT CONTINUE, THOSE AMOUNTS NEED TO BE FULLY SEGREGATED.
THEY NEED TO BE SEGREGATED SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE SHOULD BE, AND YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOUR UTILITY RATE SHOULD BE TO COVER YOUR OPERATIONAL COSTS.
IF BY SOME MEANS YOU HAVE TO RELY ON A SUBSIDY TRANSFER TO GET A BUDGET TO BALANCE, IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU LOOK AT DOING THAT ONLY WITH REPAYMENT TERMS. HAVING SAID THAT, WHERE THAT BRINGS US TODAY IS THERE IS A TOTAL OF 1.545 MILLION IN TRANSFERS THAT WERE BUDGETED FROM THE UTILITY FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IF WE REMOVE THAT, WE NOW HAVE AN IMBALANCED GENERAL FUND.
AS IT STANDS, WE HAVE AN IMBALANCED UTILITY FUND, AND WE NEED TO SEGREGATE THOSE.
WE'VE CALLED MS. SUZY OUT OF RETIREMENT.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY BALANCE THE UTILITY FUND AND KEEP THE GENERAL FUND BALANCED ALSO.
THIS CANNOT BE RELIED ON IN FUTURE BUDGETS, AND YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE CONSERVATIVE, VERY LEAN BUDGETS FOR THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS UNTIL THOSE RESERVES ARE MET, AND UNTIL THOSE FUNDS CAN OPERATE COMPLETELY SEPARATELY WITHOUT COMMINGLING.
ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED TO POSSIBLY BALANCE THE BUDGET.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PREVIOUSLY, SALES TAXES WERE USED TO FUND ROADWAYS AND THAT IS PURSUANT TO TEXAS TAX CODE CHAPTER 217,
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I BELIEVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE FUNDS WERE DE-OBLIGATED, AND THAT SALES TAX MONEY IS FULLY ALLOCATED TO THE ABLC.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE FUNDS WERE COMPLETELY DE-OBLIGATED, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A FUND BALANCE ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO COVER THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SUBSIDY TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU RUN THIS THROUGH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DOABLE, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME WITH REPAYMENT TERMS. YOU WOULD NEED TO REPAY THAT TO THE STREET FUND.
BUT THAT IS A WAY TO GET IT TO BALANCE.
I WILL CARRY OUT THAT BY SAYING THAT THIS BUDGET HAS NO CONTINGENCY IN IT.
WITHOUT CONTINGENCY, AS WE SAW IN THIS LAST CALENDAR YEAR, ALL IT TAKES IS ONE STORM TO KNOCK THINGS OFF KILTER.
WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT REPLENISHING THOSE RESERVES, PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, ADDING CONTINGENCY TO FUTURE BUDGETS, AND ALLOCATING INSURANCE WHERE IT REALLY PROBABLY SHOULD GO.
WE HAVE ALSO ALLOCATED THE FLEET BUDGET TO THE PROPER DEPARTMENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE WAY THE BUDGET WAS INTENDED TO BE FROM THE START.
THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THIS BUDGET.
NOW, I WILL SAY WE'VE DONE THE BUDGET FROM SCRATCH, WE DID IT USING EXCEL.
THE SOFTWARE THAT WAS INITIALLY INTENDED TO BE USED DID NOT WORK.
IT DID NOT WORK, AND WE HAD A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE VENDOR UNSUCCESSFULLY.
HAVING SAID THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.
THIS BUDGET BOOK, ONCE YOU GUYS ADOPT BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO RECTIFY BALANCING YOUR MAJOR FUNDS, THESE BUDGET SHEETS WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED, AND THIS BUDGET WILL NEED TO BE PRINTED AND PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE.
I'M GOING TO INVITE MS. SUZY UP HERE TO DISCUSS HER FINDINGS FROM FISCAL YEAR IN '24.
I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ENLIGHTENING ABOUT WHERE WE STAND FINANCIALLY.
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME CONCERNING BUDGET FINDINGS?
>> WHAT SOFTWARE DID YOU END UP USING? EXCEL?
IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY HEALTHY EXERCISE FOR SOME OF OUR JUNIOR STAFF MEMBERS.
HAVING LOST LITERALLY HALF OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICER HAS TAKEN IT UPON HIMSELF TO LEARN BUDGET.
WE ALSO HAVE AN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE CLERK WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCESS.
MDSS WAS THE SOFTWARE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED.
IT DOES NOT SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF THIS CITY.
AGAIN, THE VENDOR WAS NOT COOPERATIVE DURING THAT PROCESS OF TRYING TO EXTRAPOLATE THE DATA TO COMPILE A BUDGET BOOK IN THE PROPER FORMAT OF REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES.
WE STARTED FROM SCRATCH AND USED EXCEL.
BUT STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH THAT EXERCISE AND SEEN IT FROM GROUND ZERO BUILDING UP.
YOU HAVE A BLUEPRINT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOFTWARE IN THE FUTURE.
HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT IN CODE 9 THERE IS A BUDGET MODULE ON IT, SO IT WILL SUPPORT THAT IN FUTURE BUDGETS.
>> GOING IN. YOU ALREADY PUT IT INTO [INAUDIBLE].
>> COULD YOU TELL ME THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT ALLOWED YOU GUYS TO GET IN THE LINE OF SIGHT ON THESE BUDGET ISSUES?
>> YES, SIR. WE WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE VIDEOS, WE MET WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, AND WE COMPARED WHAT WAS ENTERED INTO MDSS AND THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND OUR MAJOR DEPARTURES.
WHEN WE HEARD, COUNCIL SAY, "WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT 2% COLA MAKES." WELL, THAT QUESTION WAS NEVER ADEQUATELY ANSWERED, SO WE DRILL DOWN, WE FIND THAT ANSWER BY ENTERING ALL THE NUMBERS.
NOW, WE MET WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NUMBERS IN MDSS DID OR DID NOT RECONCILE, AND WE WORKED FROM THERE.
NOW, HAVING THE SPECIFIC ALLOCATIONS FOR EACH FUND WAS VERY HELPFUL.
WE WERE ABLE TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM THAT AND PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER AS BEST AS WE COULD.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD JUST IN YOUR OPINION, HAD WE ADOPTED A DIFFERENT TAX RATE, WOULD THIS HAVE COME TO LIGHT?
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>> I THINK HAD YOU HAVE ADOPTED A DIFFERENT TAX RATE, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE MANNER IN WHICH THE BUDGET WAS PRESENTED TO YOU DID NOT PAINT AN ADEQUATE PICTURE OF THE TOTALITY OF THE BUDGET.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR BUDGET, AS I UNDERSTAND, WAS NOT PRESENTED IN TOTAL REVENUES OVER TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR YOUR MAJOR FUNDS.
IT WAS INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTAL SHEETS.
HAD YOU HAVE SEEN IT IN ITS TOTALITY, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD HAVE PAINTED THE PICTURE A BIT MORE ACCURATELY.
USING THE ONE PENNY GAUGE FOR WHAT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE COLLECTION COULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY USEFUL.
THERE'S A SHEET, I BELIEVE IT'S ON PAGE 19 OR 20 OF THAT COPY OF THE BUDGET BOOK IN FRONT OF YOU THAT SHOWS HOW TO DO THAT.
IF YOU FIND THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT MEETING ALL OF THE PROPOSED OPERATIONAL COSTS THIS YEAR YOU KNOW THAT THAT ONE PENNY IS GOING TO MAKE ALMOST $190,000 EXTRA REVENUE.
THOSE ARE JUST SOME QUICK TRICKS TO USE WHEN YOU ADOPT A BUDGET.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THE BALL WAS DROPPED A LITTLE BIT DURING THAT PROCESS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A VERY HEARTY THANK YOU.
>> A HEARTY THANK YOU THAT YOU STOOD THERE AND SPOKE TO TRUTH.
IT'S UNFAIR TO THE CITY WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND ONE NEEDS TO KNOW WE'RE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO GET THIS SHIP RIGHTED.
IT'S HURTING RIGHT NOW, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU.
>> BEFORE I HAVE SUZY COME UP HERE, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS.
IT'S BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF MY PLEASURE TO WORK FOR THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND MR. WHITAKER.
IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE TO BE BACK, AND I LOVE THE CITY VERY MUCH. THANK YOU GUYS.
>> ANOTHER MAJOR ITEM THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEFORE YOU START PREPARING YOUR BUDGET IS TO KNOW WHERE YOU ENDING THE YEAR BEFORE.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, I JUST FINISHED YOUR 2024.
THESE I JUST CLOSED OUT THE YEAR.
IN 2023, YOUR GENERAL FUND HAD A FUND BALANCE OF $3 MILLION.
>> IN 2023, YOUR GENERAL FUND HAD A FUND BALANCE OF $3 MILLION.
IN 2024, YOUR GENERAL FUND ENDED IN A DEFICIT OF 570,000 AND YOUR WATER FUND IN A DEFICIT OF 670,000.
I HAD TWO BONDS THAT WERE OVERSPENT, FUND 129 AND FUND 132, 25,000 AND 13,000.
IN YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, IT STATES THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO ABSORB ANY DEFICITS WITHIN THE FUNDS.
WITH ALL OF THIS BEING ABSORBED, IT BRINGS DOWN YOUR GENERAL FUND TO 1,000,008.
AS WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET, AS LINDSAY SAID, YOUR WATER FUND IS SUBSIDIZING YOUR GENERAL FUND BY 1,000,005.
WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY HOW TO BALANCE BOTH BUDGETS.
IF WE TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE THE GENERAL FUND AND LEAVE YOUR WATER FUND WITH ITS OWN FUND MONEY, IT WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO 245,000.
YOU ARE ENDING IN 2023 OF A 17.9% RESERVE IN YOUR GENERAL FUND.
AT THE END OF '24, LEAVING AT THE 1,000,008, IT BRINGS IT DOWN TO 10 APPROXIMATELY.
IF I TAKE THE 1,000,005, IT WILL BRING IT DOWN TO 4%.
I SUGGESTED OR LINDSAY AND I WORKED IT TOGETHER AND SAID, WHY NOT TAKE THE MONEY FROM YOUR STREET FUND OF THE TWO MILLION THAT IT HOLDS AND LET IT SUBSIDIZE THE GENERAL FUND UNTIL FOR THIS BUDGET,
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ONLY ENTER THIS BUDGET.THEN WE CAN DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY AND REVISIT AND DO A PAYMENT PLAN BACK TO THE STREET FUND.
THIS IS WHERE YOUR '24 BUDGET IS ENDING, YOUR YEAR END FOR '24.
RECOMMENDATIONS, LOOK OVER THE BUDGETS, AS WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, LOOK AS HARD AND SEE WHAT CUTS YOU CAN DO, WHETHER IT BE IN PERSONNEL, WHETHER IT BE IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHETHER CAPITAL ASSETS, WHATEVER IT TAKES, WE NEED TO BRING YOUR BUDGETS DOWN.
YOUR GENERAL FUND DOES NOT MEET ITS OWN BUDGET FUND WITH THE REVENUES THAT YOU PRESENT.
YOUR PROPERTY TAX WAS NOT ENOUGH, YOUR SALES TAX WAS OVERSTATED, YOUR COURT FUND WAS OVERSTATED.
IT DID NOT MEET WHAT WAS BUDGETED IN THE '24 BUDGET, AND IT DOES NOT MEET THAT IN THE '25 BUDGET.
WE NEED TO REVISIT THE '25 BUDGET AND DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS, ASP.
THE RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE THE STREET FUND FOR US TO BALANCE THIS BUDGET IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND.
I CAN PUT THIS BUDGET IN PLACE, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT TO DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
>> WHAT'S IN THE STREET FUND RIGHT NOW?
>> THE STREET FUND HAS THE TWO MILLION IN IT RIGHT NOW.
>> IT'S JUST EVEN TWO MILLION?
>> I WAS LOOKING IN THE CHARTER.
I THOUGHT WE HAD A CHARTER AMENDMENT [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE CHARTER AMENDMENT WAS DONE IN 2018, WHICH TOOK IT FROM IT BEING A DEDICATED SALES TAX, STREET FUND TO BE ABLE TO BE USED ANY WAY THAT THE CITY SOUGHT TO BE USED.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIND TOO.
>> IT WAS 2018, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE DID THE 2018 BOND FOR THE STREET REPAIRS.
NOW, THE 2018 COUNCIL ALSO SUGGESTED THAT THE MONEY THAT WE DID HAVE IN THE STREET FUND BE PIGGYBACKED WITH THE 2018 BOND WHENEVER THAT BOND WAS DEPLETED.
WE HAVE $703,000 IN THE 2018 BOND.
THAT'S WHY A PAYMENT PLAN HAS TO BE MADE TO REPLENISH FUND 2 BECAUSE THAT GOES TO THE STREET REPAIRS.
BUT SINCE THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED WHEN YOU DID THE BUDGET FOR THIS 2025 ONLY HAS THE STREET FUND IS 20,000, THE ONLY WAY I CAN BALANCE THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR IS TO ACTUALLY TAKE IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AS A PLACEHOLDER AND THEN WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, FUND 2 WILL BE AMENDED TO DO THE TRANSFER.
WE HAVE TO GO BY THE ORDINANCE THAT THE BUDGET WAS PASSED.
>> THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT HAS TO BE IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE, CORRECT?
>> WE DON'T HAVE THAT ORDINANCE TONIGHT IN FRONT OF US?
>> EXCUSE ME, JOHN. IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT THE BUDGET IN PLACE FIRST BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
>> WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO AUTHORIZE THAT TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> AS LINDSAY SAID, IF THE FORMAT WAS DONE WHERE YOU HAVE THE TOTAL REVENUE AND YOUR TOTAL DEPARTMENTS, AND IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH YOU'RE SHORT AS WE USED TO, COUNCIL WOULD KNOW THAT IT DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
>> DID THEY GIVE A REFERENCE IN THE CHARTER ON THE ELECTION?
>> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I CANNOT FIND.
>> I HAVE THE BALLOT AND EVERYTHING.
>> OKAY. I JUST CANNOT FIND IT ONLINE.
>> OH, YEAH. IT WAS A WHOLE THING.
>> DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ENTERPRISE?
>> ENTERPRISE FUND OR THE ENTERPRISE FLEET?
>> ENTERPRISE FLEET. ENTERPRISE FLEET ACCOUNT IS WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY DOING NOW IS SUBSIDIZING ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITH NEW VEHICLES.
WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE LAST YEAR WHERE WE WERE SHORT $60,000 TO WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
CHRIS AND I HAD A LITTLE CHAT ABOUT THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT
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FREEZING AND AS SOME OF THE VEHICLES COME UP FOR RENEWAL, ACTUALLY NOT RENEWING THEM.BUT WE COULD DISCUSS THAT MORE IN-DEPTH AS WE DO IN BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
>> IF THEY'RE LEASE VEHICLES, NOT RENEW THEM, YOU'RE STILL PAYING THE LEASE AMOUNT, RIGHT?
>> WE EITHER DO THAT OR ACTUALLY GO OUT AND START BUYING SOME OF OUR OWN AND INTER-FINANCING THEM OURSELVES SO WE COULD HAVE SOME.
THAT IS A DECISION THAT COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER WOULD RECOMMEND FINANCE TO DO.
I THINK IF EVERYONE PUTS ON THEIR THINKING CAPS, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTION.
IT'S NOT A ONE-TIME THING THAT CAN BE DONE IN ONE YEAR.
I THINK IT'S A PLAN THAT WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOWARDS AND BE VERY VIGILANT OF OUR EXPENSES.
>> I'M DEFINITELY IN AGREEMENT ON THE STREET FUND ONE-TIME SUBSIDIZING THE GENERAL FUND TO MOVE THAT OVER WITH THE LOAN REPAYMENT SCHEDULE [BACKGROUND] FOLLOWING.
I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF REALLY TAKING A HARD LOOK AT THIS ENTERPRISE VEHICLE.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS TO AN EXTENT NEEDS THEIR VEHICLES.
ESSENTIAL SERVICES IS FIRST AND FOREMOST.
I DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND ANY CUTS TO POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS.
THAT JUST TO ME IS A NO-GO ANYWHERE FROM THERE.
BUT I REALIZE THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES.
IN PUBLIC WORKS, HOW MANY VEHICLES DO WE NEED? HOW MANY CREWS DO WE HAVE? REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK, HECTOR, AT YOUR DEPARTMENT AND GO, CAN THIS VEHICLE GO? I'M REFERRING TO THE ENTERPRISE VEHICLES RIGHT NOW.
OR SHOULD WE GO BUY OUR OWN AND HOLD IT BECAUSE IT CAN LAST 10, 15 YEARS? WOULD BE FINE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OFFSET, I THINK.
I THINK THE CITY HALL VEHICLES, THOSE PROBABLY SHOULD BE BOUGHT BY US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ON TO THEM FOREVER.
[NOISE] I REALLY WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD, THIS BUDGET BOOK IS WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU, SUZY, THE WHOLE TEAM, IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE HEADCOUNTS IN HERE, EACH DEPARTMENT, HOW MUCH THEY'RE SPENDING.
>> BUT YOU DO KNOW I WILL BE PUTTING IT BACK INTO ENCODE SO WE CAN HAVE THE FINANCIALS MONTHLY.
>> THE FIRST PLACE TO CUT IS THAT SOFTWARE.
IF WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY THERE.
>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REALIZE THAT FOR ME TO DO THIS BUDGET, IT WILL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND UNTIL THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS DONE TO COME OUT OF THE STREET FUND.
>> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES UNTIL WE ADOPT IT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
>> I WILL BE DOING THE BUDGET AND DOING A ONE-TIME FINANCIALS FOR Y'ALL AS SOON AS I CAN BECAUSE I'LL BE INSTALLING THE BUDGET.
>> DO WE NEED ANY APPROVAL OR IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH?
>> TRANSFER THE MONEY OVER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE JUST PAYING TO TRANSFER IT.
>> THAT WILL NOT BE DONE TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
>> THEN WAIT TILL YOU MAKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
>> I WAS ASKING IF YOU CLEARED THIS WITH THE AUDITORS OR IF THE AUDITORS ARE NOT ENGAGED YET.
STREET FUND, BECAUSE AS I RECALL FROM 2018 BECAUSE WE DID THAT CHARTER AMENDMENT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT,
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BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED BONDS. BOND FUND?>> NO. I HAD TO REPLENISH IT TO GO TO THE BONDS BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN OVERSPENT.
>> OKAY. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING OUT THERE.
>> THAT SHOULD NOT GO TO OPERATIONS.
>> MOVING FORWARD, YOU PUT THE NUMBERS WHERE THE NUMBERS NEED TO BE, WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THOSE NUMBERS OR NOT.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE GOT TO DO.
THEN TAG IT ON TO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, OR THE TRUTHFUL, THERE ARE SOME MUST-HAVES IN THE CITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS EXTRACURRICULAR.
YOU MUST HAVE FIRE PROTECTION.
YOU MUST HAVE POLICE PROTECTION.
YOU MUST HAVE WATER AND SEWER.
YOU MUST HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU THAT'S GOING TO PAY THE BILLS AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO RUN THE SHOW.
REST OF IT IS EXTRACURRICULAR, OR THEY HAVE A DECREASING ORDER OF NEED.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY IT. EVERYBODY'S THINKING IT.
YOU CAN PLAN TO TAKE A VACATION, BUT YOU AIN'T GOING TO TAKE IT IF THE MONEY IS NOT THERE.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION. I HEARD YOU SAY YOU WERE CLOSED OUT ON 24 BOOKS, RIGHT?
>> HAVE WE APPROACHED OUR AUDITORS YET?
>> I HAVE CALLED THEM TODAY AND TOLD THEM THAT I WILL BE SENDING THEM THEIR TRIAL BALANCE, AND I WAS READY FOR THEM TO SEND ME THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER AND READY FOR THEM TO START SENDING REQUESTS FOR THE AUDIT BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE FINISHED BY MARCH, AND WE WERE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE THIS YEAR.
>> BUT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK THEM TO SIGN THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER SO THAT WE CAN GET ROLLING BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
OBVIOUSLY, WE PICK THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM.
>> I AM READY FOR THEM JUST TO SEND WHATEVER I HAVE.
>> IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I WAS HERE FOR 25 YEARS, AND I NEVER HAD A WRITE-UP.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CALL THAT?
>> QUITE COME BACK. [LAUGHTER]
>> REAL QUICK TO TALK TO ALL STAFF.
IT'S NOT EASY. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU SHARPENING YOUR PENCILS AND DOING EVERYTHING YOU'VE NEEDED TO DO TO GET US THERE, SO THANK YOU ALL.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET, BUT WE ALL COME TOGETHER VERY WELL, AND I CAN'T SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THAT. THANK YOU.
>> WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED STUFF AT THE STAFF LEVEL FOR OVERTIME AND COMP TIME, AND THERE'S MORE TO COME.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT AMOUNT OF SAVINGS, BUT IT'S WITHIN MY POWER AND PURVIEW AND WON'T BE POPULAR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR PART UNTIL WE NEED TO DO OTHER THINGS.
>> THAT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
IT COULD BE HARD DECISION TO WRITE.
BUT IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN BLINDSIDED.
SORRY IT HAPPENED. EVERYBODY HELP US TO NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
ARE YOU ALL ENGAGING THE DIRECTORS ABOUT THESE CUTS? HOW DOES THAT GET DECIDED UPON?
>> WE'RE WAITING FOR TONIGHT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA; IS PUTTING THE PROPER STEPS IN PLACE FOR THE LONG TERM IS PART OF IT.
SUZY AND LINDSAY HAVE DONE AN AWESOME JOB.
LINDSAY'S MOVED ON TO A HIGHER CALLING.
AGAIN, SUZY'S FOR THE TIME AND THE PAY AND WHATEVER.
BUT AGAIN, AS I'VE SENT IN A COUPLE OTHER EMAILS,
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I'VE MADE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES ABOUT OVER TIME AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.WE'RE GOING TO LOOK HARD IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THINGS THAT ADMINISTRATIVE WILL DO TO CUT COSTS.
THEN AS WE PROCEED DOWN THAT PATH TO MEET WHATEVER THAT MARK IS, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AT A FURTHER TIME AND SAY, WE GOT TO GET THERE.
THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
WE'LL PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> I'M ASKING HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE.
>> THAT'S LED BY ME AND THE STAFF.
>> JUST LIKE WE DID THE BUDGET AND THE BUDGET CUTS, WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE THE STAFF AND SAY, WE GOT TO GET THERE. WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? IF WE DON'T GET THERE, THEN I'M GOING TO SAY THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER LEVERS LIKE ENTERPRISE FLEET AND NOT RENEWING WHATEVER.
WHAT'S THE IMPACT AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SALES TAX.
SALES TAX COST US 259 OR SO $1,000 LAST YEAR THAT CUT INTO OUR FUND BALANCE.
>> WE'RE COMING BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9:17.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION?>> HEARING NONE. WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED AT 9:17 [BACKGROUND] AND 56 SECONDS.
WE'LL GO BACK TO [BACKGROUND] COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ANYTHING?
[OPEN SESSION ]
[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]
>> UPDATE ON THE LEADEN COPPER PROJECT.
KSA ENGINEERS REQUIRED BY US TO DO THAT JOB.
THEY HAVE SINCE BEEN BOUGHT OUT BY PAPE-DAWSON.
THERE'S STILL AN ENTITY BUT THEY'RE IN THE PAPE-DAWSON FAMILY NOW.
I JUST WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT PROJECT.
WE HIRED FREEZER NICHOLS TO DO SOME SANITARY SEWER STUDY, WHATEVER THAT WAS THAT WE [INAUDIBLE] IN A WHILE.
>> I'M GOING TO JUST ASK FOR A CONTINUING UPDATE ON THE FINANCE DIRECTOR SITUATION.
SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE, MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I HOPE TO HAVE NEWS BY THE END OF THE WEEK. I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
>> IT MAY BE RESOLVED IN THE EMAIL, BUT IF IT'S NOT, THEN I'D LIKE AN UPDATED REPORT.
>> JOHN PETERSON IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT I'M MOVING FORWARD WITH THE UTILITIES DESIGN DOWNTOWN FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]
>> I JUST SENT HIM A NOTE TONIGHT TO GET ON THE FEBRUARY AGENDA TO UPDATE Y'ALL ON THAT PROGRESS.
>> I JUST STATED UP FRONT, YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FROM TEX GOV.
[NOISE] I CAN NAME SEVERAL PROJECTS.
JUST TO GET THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT, IT'S MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS, AND THEN YOU GET TO ANSWER THESE SILLY QUESTIONS IF THEY COULD HAVE ASKED YOU ON A PHONE CALL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING MAJOR DESIGN WORK DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY RIGHT AWAY, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO REQUIRE OF US IN PERMITTING AND STUFF TO DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO? I'LL GET OFF THE BOX. [INAUDIBLE]
>> ANYBODY'S WATCHING FROM TEX GOV, THE [OVERLAPPING] OPINIONS OF COUNCIL MEMBER DON'T NECESSARILY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, [LAUGHTER] AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE IN MOVING FORWARD.
>> REALLY FAST SPEAK, COME ON.
>> I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
>> I GUESS LUMP THAT IN WITH THE ANNEX AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME.
>> BUT DO YOU KNOW WITH TIM MARTHA'S REPORT?
>> YEAH. BUT JUST AN OPEN SESSION.
IF WE NEED TO HAVE, WHO WAS IT? BRENT. [BACKGROUND] HOW CLOSE IS HE TO HAVING THAT DESIGNED DOWN?
>> HE WAS GETTING SOME UPDATE NUMBERS FROM TEAM.
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>> MAYBE THAT WILL MOVE THINGS A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
>> ON THE CITY HALL ANNEX, JOHN DEPT IS GOING BACK AND REWORKING THE RFP BECAUSE ONLY ONE OF THE THREE ORIGINAL VENDORS IS STILL ON THE LIST.
AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO LOWEST BIDDER AS A SELECTION CRITERIA, WE'LL ADVERTISE IT AS THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO Y'ALL.
>> NOW COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN AT 9:22 AND 11 SECONDS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.