>> WE'RE GOING TO GET ORDER AND GO AHEAD AND
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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START THIS CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH AT 6:00 P.M. TO ORDER.WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE HAVE ABSENT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND WE HOPE HE HAS A SPEEDY RECOVERY.
>> THANKS FOR ALL THOSE THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE AND ALL THOSE LISTENING ONLINE.
IF YOU ALL WILL PLEASE RISE AND FOLLOW US IN THE PLEDGE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVITATION.
FATHER THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DATE THAT YOU GIVE US.
DATE THAT YOU MADE WILL JUST GIVE YOU PRAISE TONIGHT FOR GREAT AND MIGHTY LOVING GOD THAT YOU ALL.
I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT HERE TONIGHT TO PAUSE, FATHER, ASKING YOUR BLESSING, YOUR COMFORT ON THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THE YOUNG LADY THAT PASSED AWAY MONDAY.
THAT A NIGHT, FATHER, WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH US AS WE GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS.
FATHER HELP US TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS, DECISIONS THAT ARE PLEASING FOR YOU AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR TOWN OR THANK YOU AGAIN IN CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN.
>> MICHELLE, DO WE HAVE ANY SESSION TO ADDRESS COUNSEL?
>> MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CERTIFICATION OF UNOPPOSED CANDIDATES FOR THE MAY 3RD, 2025 GENERAL ELECTION.ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025026-002.
ORDERING THE CANCELLATION OF THE GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON MAY 3RD, 2025, DECLARING THE UNOPPOSED CANDIDATES FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, POSITION 2, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, POSITION 4 ARE DULY ELECTED.
ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AMENDING AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES FOR TEXT POOL FIRST PUBLIC LONSTAR AND TEXSTAR, LEADING FORMER EMPLOYEES, PHILIP CONNOR, TANISHA WILLIAMS, AND ADDING FINANCE DIRECTOR SUSIE HERNANDEZ AS THE PRIMARY AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE, ANTHONY MADRIGAL AS AN ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE FOR INQUIRY ON COUNCIL.
>> MOVE TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BUS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.
FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED, SEEM NONE.
MOTION CARRIES. NOW ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS.
[4. Public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20250226-004, adopting the proposed City of Angleton Comprehensive Fee Schedule, as related to the User Fee Study.]
ITEM NUMBER 4, PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 025-022-6004, ADOPTING THE PROPOSED CITY OF ANGLETON IN AND COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE AS RELATED TO THE USER FEE STAT.>> GOOD EVENING, AMERICAN COUNCIL.
SPECIFICALLY, THE COMPREHENSIVE FEE STUDY, SCHEDULE OF FEES FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
WE'RE AT THE STAGE WHERE WE THINK WE'RE READY FOR ADOPTION AT YOUR PLEASURE.
I WANTED TO QUICKLY RUN THROUGH ANY LAST MINUTE CHANGES OR OBSERVATIONS SINCE THE TOWN HALL THAT WE HELD ON FEBRUARY 13TH.
I WANTED TO REPORT THAT WE FELT IT WAS A NEED SO TO GET ONE MORE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE FEES AS PROPOSED.
WE HAD CONNECTION MADE THERE WITH DEVELOPER THAT HAD QUESTIONS.
I JUST OUTLINED THE TWO OR THREE COMMENTS.
ONE WAS RELATED TO IN THE ETJ AND HOW WE NEGOTIATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.
THEY WERE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO PERMITS THAT WE DO HAVE OUT IN THE COUNTY IN WINDOWS SCREEN THAT WAS NEGOTIATED PRIOR TO MY GETTING HERE.
BUT HOWEVER, WE HAVE ASHLAND IN WHICH THEY DO NOT PULL ACTUAL PERMITS, BUT THEY DO PULL SITE PLAN CONSTRUCTION PLAN WE DO IN TERMS OF THE INSPECTIONS, ALL OF THAT'S NEGOTIATED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
OUR RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION WAS MERELY THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNSEL WOULD KEEP THAT CONVENTION TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU OUT IN THE ETJ.
THEN HAVE THAT STRUCTURED THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IN TERMS OF HOW THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED UNTIL SUCH TIME THE LAND IS AN ACCEPTANCE.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S JUST OUR SUGGESTION OUT OF.OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING YOUR INCREASING THE FEES BY WHATEVER PERCENTAGE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT AN ENHANCEMENT TO SERVICES.
ONE OF THE LANDMARK CHANGES WE MADE WAS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MIN GOVERNMENT SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS, BUT DEVELOPERS TO GO ON LINE AND ACTUALLY UNDERTAKE THE REVIEW PROCESS, COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY.
WITH THE REVIEWERS, PAY ALL FEES THAT ARE DOING FURTHER REVIEWS ONLINE.
THE PART OF WENT LIVE DECEMBER OF 2024, SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD MUCH SUCCESS, I THINK. WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SOFTWARE ENTITY TO PERFECT THOSE CHALLENGES THAT FOLKS ARE HAVING.
THEY CAN DIAL THE 1800 NUMBER, USUALLY 24 HOURS A DAY AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE OR PROBLEMS HAVE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR ENHANCEMENTS.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO STREAMLINE OUR REVIEW RESPONSE TIME.
OF COURSE, WITH THE SHOT CLOCK REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE ON THE PLATS, WE'RE HELD TO THAT REQUIREMENT ALREADY.
I PROVIDED YOU THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED ALSO IN THE INTERIM.
IT DID GO TO THE PARKS BOARD IN TERMS OF REVIEW OF ALL THE PARK FEES.
NOTHING WAS ADDED SINCE THAT TIME.
I WILL POINT OUT IN YOUR RECOMMEND AMENDED CHANGES, THE ONLY THING THAT STAFF HAS ADJUSTED, THERE WAS ONE ITEM THAT WAS OMITTED.
WE ADDED A TREE PLAN REVIEW OF $150.
WE PARALLEL THAT FOR THE MASTER STREET PLAN, WHICH IS A MASS ASSIGN PLAN, WHERE DEVELOPERS WOULD HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE OR CONNECTED DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT AND HAVE A GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF THE SIGNAGE FOR ROUTE.
PRIME EXAMPLE WOULD BE ASHLAND, WINDOW, SCREENING, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
THEY WOULD SUBMIT THAT OVERALL SIGNAGE PLAN TO STAFF AND WE WOULD REVIEW THAT.
WE ADDED THAT $150 REVIEW FEE TO THAT AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS ZEROED OUT ON YOUR COPY.
>> OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTING WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS YOUR LAST MEETING.
I'VE GIVEN YOU JUST A SAMPLING OF BEFORE AND AFTER COMPARISON ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PROCESSED SINCE 2023, AND IT'S SHOWING A SLIGHT INCREASE OF 38.7% OF WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE PAID WITH THE OLD FEE VERSUS THE NEW FEE.
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS REASONABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT RESENT IT, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS, AND MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY ADDED COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> COUNSEL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD OR DO THEY WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND GO ON A PUBLIC HEARING? WE ALREADY HAVE IT OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ONCE AGAIN, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH PODIUM. COUNSEL.
>> CLOSE OR PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
I'LL MOVE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> A MOTION MOVED BY COUNSELMAN. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.
WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.
>> JUST FOR MY BENEFIT AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IS FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED FOR REVIEWS FOR VARIOUS THINGS THAT BUILDING PERMITS, DEMOLITION PERMITS, VOLE PERMIT.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND.
AS YOU KNOW, ON MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS, DEPENDING ON THE FINANCIAL FINANCING METHODS IN WHICH THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE APPROVED.
SOME OF THOSE FEES GO TO OTHER PLACES SUCH AS YOUR PIDS.
WE HAVE ALSO THE CAPACITY FEES THAT ARE PAID FOR CONNECTION.
SOME OF THOSE WOULD GO TO YOUR UTILITY OR STREET FUNDS, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF IMPACT FEES THAT ARE PAID.
THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, WHICH WOULD GO SPECIFICALLY TO THE FUND THAT ARE MANAGED BY THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
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SOME OF THESE ARE UNIQUE.HOWEVER, SOME FEES DO GO TO YOUR GENERAL FUND.
THEN WE HAVE THE REIMBURSABLE FEES IN WHICH DEVELOPERS HAVE HAD TO PUT DOWN DEPOSITS AND HAVE ESCROW TO TAKE CARE OF THIRD PARTY REVIEW ON THE LEGAL ENGINEERING SIDE.
THOSE THINGS AS WE'VE HAD LOAN DISCUSSIONS, THOSE ARE CARRIED OVER INTO THE BUDGET IN THE FORM OF A PASS THROUGH ACCOUNT IN WHICH WE REIMBURSE THE CITY BACK THOSE THIRD PARTY REVIEWS ON THE LEGAL.
WE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE.
I JUST STARTED BEING IS VERY MORTAL, IS IT? NOW I JUST THROWING MONEY INTO INTO A TIN CUP FOR COFFEE FUND OR SOMETHING ACTUALLY GOING VERY SOPHISTICATED FUNDS.
>> THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROCESS THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH IS TO HELP US DO IT IN A SMART WAY WHERE WE'RE NOT BECOMING A BANK.
SOME OF THE I WOULD SAY TOPIC OR TYPES OF PERMITS AND APPROVALS HAVE BUILT IN UPFRONT FEES, WHERE WE'RE NOT, BORROWING MONEY AND PAYING BACK MONEY AND BECOMING THE BILL COLLECTORS.
WE'LL SEE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THAT LEVEL.
I WILL BE BRINGING YOU A MONTHLY REPORT FROM THOSE REIMBURSABLE FEES ON THE LEGAL AND ENGINEERING SIDE, NOW THAT WE'RE FULLY STAFFED ON THE HAND SIDE, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE REPORTS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVOICE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ONGOING WITH PENDING INVOICES AND DEVELOPERS.
>> I MIGHT CALL ON YOU LATER FOR LISTENING.
>> I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
>> I DID GET ONE COMMENT FROM PUBLIC THAT I THOUGHT WAS RELATIVE THAT WE SHOULD BRING UP.
ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE OUR FEE SCHEDULE FOR ANYBODY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT WE'RE THAT FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE OF PLATTING OR WATER AND SEWER SERVICES?
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND WE TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN MATHEW GETS UP FOR ITEM 6.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE SAME. THOSE FIVE INDIVIDUAL THAT IN THE COUNTY IN THE ETJ.
THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PLATTING AUTHORITY IN THE ETJ?
>> CORRECT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE MORE FOR BUILDING PERMITS OR ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE CITY THAT WE'RE IN OUR ETJ THAT WE'RE DOING WORK FOR.
>> THE COUNSEL MAY NEGOTIATE THAT IN THOSE DEVELOPING IN THE DEVELOP AGREEMENT.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BECAUSE THAT MAY UNDERTAKE A MILEAGE OR WHATEVER SERVICES.
>> WE CAN TAKE CARE AND ADDRESS THAT IN OPINION.
>> COUNSEL? I KNOW IT'S A BIG CHANGE.
THIS IS A STUDY, WE CAN DO ON A TWO YEAR ROTATION OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE COME BACK TO YOU AND MAYBE GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS TO HIGHER FUNCTIONING, AND I COMPARE IT TO THE COMPARABLE THAT WE PUT IN.
>> I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT STUFF.
MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A SIX MONTH REVIEW.
>> WE CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN JUST SAY, GOING, WHAT COMPLAINTS HAVE YOU RECEIVED? WHAT DO WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH?
>> YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
>> I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME MAY NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AS NEEDED ON THAT AS WELL.
>> WELL, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 20250226-004, ADOPTING THE PROPOSED CITY OF ANGLETON COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE AS IT RELATES TO THE USER FEE AND FEE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN BY COUNCILMAN FOR APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO OTIS AND THE TEAM AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE JUST DID OVERNIGHT.
>> ANXIOUS TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
>> THANK YOU. CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIDE.
MOTION CARRIES. COUNCILMAN ROBERT DISMISS.
THEY'RE IMPORTANT. REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 5.
[5. Update, discussion, and possible action on the King Municipal Operations Center Project from Brent Bowles.]
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UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE KING MUNICIPAL OPERATION CENTER PROJECT FROM BRENT FOLES.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE STAFF MEMBERS.
MAYOR COUNCIL IS GOOD TO SEE ALL OF IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, BRAZORIA COUNTY.
WELL REPRESENTING THE CITY OF ANGLETON, THE MISSOURI COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ANGLETON LOOK GOOD.
WE SEE YOU THERE AND ENGAGE WITH EVERYONE.
GOOD HERE TONIGHT AS WE'RE PULLING UP THE LIVERS THERE.
THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE.
I MAY YOU THAT FOR A ONE MONTH UPDATE, MONTHLY UPDATE.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DO THAT TO YOU.
WE HAVE A FEW NEW THINGS TO SHOW AND MAYBE SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS PROJECT YOU THE OPERATION CENTER.
WE ALSO HAD THE PLEASURE ABOUT A WEEK AGO TODAY TO MEET WITH THE CREWS OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PARK STAFF IN THIS ROOM HERE.
ALL THE CREW MEMBERS WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, ASK SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.
GENERALLY, THE RESPONSE WAS VERY POSITIVE.
WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND I MISSING ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
I HAD A QUESTION ON THE LOCKERS.
I SAID THAT THERE WERE 60 HALF SIZE LOCKERS.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY 60 FULL HEIGHT LOCKERS, 15 INCHES BY 15 INCHES, SO I'D LIKE THAT TO BE CLARIFIED.
THERE ARE 60 LOCKERS IN THE MALE, 12 IN THE FEMALE, 15 INCHES BY 15 INCHES, FULL HEIGHT.
AS WE WORK WITH STAFF ON THIS, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS AGAIN, WE WERE OVER BUDGET INITIALLY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO CONSOLIDATE SOME SPACE.
WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THAT.
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, WE HAVE ACTUALLY CONSOLIDATED ABOUT 162 SQUARE FEET OUT OF THE OFFICE SPACE.
WE'VE HAD EVERYBODY LOOK AT THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T CUT TOO MUCH.
WE'VE GIVEN SOME STANDARDIZED OFFICE SPACES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE.
WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBLE SPACES ON THE INTERIOR THAT COULD BE THOSE PART WALL SPACES OR THOSE WORKSTATIONS, YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM CENTER.
OF THAT VERTICAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING THERE.
YOU'LL SEE THE CONSOLIDATION. THANK YOU, SIR.
AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A VERY LARGE TRAINING ROOM THAT HAS A PASS THROUGH WINDOW THERE TO THAT BRAKE ROOM AS WELL.
YOU'LL SEE THE LOCKERS THAT WE MENTIONED, THE CHANGING ROOMS WITH FULL SHOWERS FOR THE CREWS IN CASE THEY GET HYDRAULIC FLUID ON FROM EQUIPMENT OR DIRT OR ANY INTEGRATION THAT THEY MAY COME INTO CONTACT WITH AND THINGS THAT THEY DO OUTDOORS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO CAME FROM MORE OR LESS MEET WITH COUNCIL THAT CAME UP IN THAT CRUISE MEETING WAS THE POTENTIAL ADOPTION OF AN ADDITIONAL STORAGE BAG THAT SEEMED TO BE A PRETTY CONSISTENT BUT WE KNEW WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD SPACE WITHOUT MAKING SOME OF THOSE CUTS.
AGAIN, WANTING TO STAY VERY MUCH ON POINT WITH BUDGET.
WE TOOK THIS PLAN HERE THAT REALLY ONLY SHOWS THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE OFFICE SPACE AGAIN, THAT REDUCTION OF ABOUT 1006 SQUARE FOOT.
WE SENT THAT TO CONSTRUCTION WHO IS YOUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AT THIS POINT FOR PRE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
THEY VERIFIED THE LAST BUDGET THAT I GAVE TO YOU WAS JUST OVER $5,064,000.
TO THE REDUCTION OF CUTS, IN THE OFFICE SPACE, WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL STORAGE BAY AND ACTUALLY STILL LOWER THE PRICE OF THIS BECAUSE WE'RE REDUCING OFFICE CONDITIONED SPACE FOR ADDING, UNCONDITIONED SHOP SPACE.
WE WANTED TO HEAR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER RISK CONFIRM THAT, AND THEY BELIEVE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE SPACE IN THE OFFICE, ADD THE ADDITIONAL SHOP, AND THEN ACTUALLY STILL BE UNDER 4.9.
WE'VE ACTUALLY REDUCED FROM FIVE MILLIONS OF CHANGE TO BELOW 4.9, AND THAT'S STILL A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE'RE VERY MUCH TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WHERE WE ARE NOW, SCHEDULE WISE, WE PROBABLY SLID A WEEK OR TWO ON THE OVERALL SCHEDULE, BUT WE STILL FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT 95% GMP, THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE SET OF DRAWINGS, PRETTY MUCH FULL DRAWINGS, SPECIFICATIONS, SYMBOL, STRUCTURAL MECHANICAL PLUMBING.
INTO [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION FOR THEIR GMP SET END OF MARCH, MID APRIL, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
THEY'LL TAKE ABOUT 30 DAYS TO VET IT ALL OUT, GO THROUGH PRICING WITH THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS, GET IN THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE TO COUNSEL ABOUT A MONTH LATER.
PRESENT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOOD TO GO THERE.
THEN HOPEFULLY WITHIN A MONTH AFTER THAT,
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SOMETIME AROUND JUNE OR SO, HAVE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THEM TO MOVE FORWARD MOBILIZING HISTORIC CONSTRUCTION.A COUPLE OF OTHER SLIDES WHO'VE GONE INTO THREE ELEVATIONS.
THERE'S SOME TWO ELEVATIONS THERE.
AGAIN, WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT BACK TO ONE MORE PAGE? THERE YOU GO.
THE VIEW ON THE TOP, AS YOU CAN SEE IS THAT EAST ELEVATION.
NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY SEE THAT.
THAT'S THAT NORTH ELEVATION AND EAST SIDE OF THAT THAT'S THE SHOT BASE.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SHOWING THAT ADDITIONAL SHOT BASE, I JUST FIVE PULL THROUGH FULL LENGTH PAGE RIGHT NOW.
IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING ON THAT SIXTH PAGE, WE HAVE ROOM TO DO THAT.
WE WILL GET THAT 4.9 TYPE BUDGET NUMBER.
STILL REDUCTION FROM THE LAST JUST OVER FIVE MILLION.
IN THE NEXT SHEET I BELIEVE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE PUBLIC FACING.
IT'S SPRINGER METAL BUT WE KNOW THAT.
BUT THE FRONT [INAUDIBLE] THERE, WE'RE TRYING TO A DRESS THAT UP WITH SOME STONE AND THE BROW CONFIGURATION THERE.
FACE SHIFT TYPE WORK THERE AND DRESS THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
WE'LL GET INTO THE SIGNAGE OF THE KING'S OPERATION CENTER, SHOW SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
AGAIN, JUST SOME OF THE OTHER WEST ELEVATIONS AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS THERE.
THEN NOW WELL SNEAK AHEAD, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THREE RENDERINGS.
THERE YOU GO. THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE WHAT WE WOULD SEE MORE OR LESS FROM VELASCO STREET.
THAT WOULD BE FACING JUST PRETTY MUCH DUE WEST.
THE ENTRANCE IS ACTUALLY AROUND THE LEFT HAND CORNER THERE.
WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE THERE WOULD BE THOSE OFFICES FACING VELASCO. I'M SORRY THERE'S QUESTIONS?
>> SORRY. IT WOULD STILL BE FACING THE MAIN ENTRANCE WOULD STILL BE THE WAY THE OLD BUILDING WAS COMING FROM THE NORTH.
>> THE HIGHWAY IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
>> THE HIGHWAY IS ON THE WEST SIDE.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE UP?
>> YOU'RE FACING EAST WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PIECE?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. YOU'RE LOOKING EAST THERE.
WE REFER TO THAT AS THE WEST ELEVATION.
THAT THAT ELEVATION IS FACING WEST FROM MARMAN POINT, YES, OR WE'RE LOOKING EAST.
AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE MORE OF THE NORTH ELEVATION THERE.
YOU SEE THE DOUBLE DOORS BELOW THE TEXT OF KING VELASCO CENTER.
THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE THERE.
YOU SEE THE FENCE THAT WE HAVE TO SECURE THE LAY DOWN AREAS THERE.
GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD BE PARKING OFF TO THE RIGHT HERE, ENTERING THOSE DOORS THERE.
AGAIN, BACK TO THE FORM EXPLAIN LAST TIME, WE HAVE A CONTROLLED ENTRANCE SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO BACK IN THE OFFICE AREAS UNLESS THEY'RE ESCORTED BY STAFF.
YOU'LL SEE THE SHOT PHASE AND THE PART IS THE BACKGROUND THERE AGAIN BEHIND THAT CONTROLLED FENCE.
IS THERE ONE MORE IMAGE, MAYBE? THERE YOU GO. THAT'S JUST A MOVE OF AN OVERALL.
THAT'S FROM THE NORTH LOOKING SOUTH. YOU'LL SEE THAT.
ALASKA WOULD BE OFF TO THE PAGE RIGHT, IF YOU WILL.
ANY COMMENTS? THE QUESTION I HAVE THEN, IF PERMISSIBLE.
YES, NO, MAYBE IS, WHAT'S THE WILL OF COUNSEL? WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING THAT SIX FULL SHOT BAG OR WE CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE.
AGAIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
CONSTRUCTION MAST SAYS RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THE OFFICE SQUARE FOOT FRO DEDUCTION THAT WE HAVE AND ADDING THE SIXTH BAY IS NOT SHOWN HERE, WE SHOULD BE BELOW 4.9 MILLION.
>> HOW MANY BAYS DO WE HAVE NOW?
>> I FORGET. THAT'S THE OLD BUILDING.
>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING THIS.
>> THESE FIVE BAYS HERE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE STORAGE FOR ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND THEN FREEZE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO WINTERIZE EQUIPMENT AND GET IT STORED IN THERE.
THE SIXTH BAY WOULD BE FOR STORAGE SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET RID OF THOSE CONEXUS THAT WE HAVE ON SITE.
THAT'S HOW WE HAVE ALL OUR PARTS ARE ALL STORED IN THOSE CONEXUS.
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OR WITHOUT THIS, WE CONTINUE TO USE CONEXUS THAT ARE ON SITE FOR STORAGE OF ALL OUR PARTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.>> I'D RECOMMEND STAYING WITH FIVE BAYS.
WE CAN ALWAYS ADD ON AT A FUTURE TIME WHEN THE GROWTH IS THERE, BUT THE PARTS ARE ALL IN CONEXS, THEY'RE SAFE, THEY'RE SECURE.
>> WE JUST WANT THE SIX BAY FOR STORAGE FOR SOUNDS.
>> CORRECT. YES. STORAGE SPACE.
>> IT'S FIVE BAYS, YOU'RE COMING IN FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING?
>> CORRECT YOU GOT ONLY [OVERLAPPING].
>> EFFECTIVELY, YOU'RE GETTING 10.
>> THERE IS EIGHT DRIVE THROUGHS CURRENTLY.
>> FULL DRIVE USE OF 16 TOTAL.
WE DO HAVE SOME EXTRA SPACE THERE CURRENTLY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL BE GETTING RID OF, WE HAVE THE TALL SHELVES FULL OF ALL THE METERS AND ONCE THIS BEATER PROJECT GETS COMPLETED, ALL THOSE WILL BE OUT OF THERE.
THERE'S NOT A NEED TO HAVE EIGHT, BUT WE FEEL THERE'S A NEED FOR SIX TO INCLUDE STORAGE OF ALL THE CONEX ITEMS. BUT AGAIN, USING FIVE, WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR EQUIPMENT AND ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS. WE JUST DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO STORE ALL THE CONEX ITEMS.
>> WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS BUILDING IN THE SHOP AREA IS GOING TO BE FULL?
>> DEER IN, A STRONG WINTER EVENT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME OPEN BAYS FOR WORK ON VEHICLES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
BUT IN A IN A WINTER EVENT, YES, THE LOB BE FULL LIKE THE BACKER TRUCK HAS TO COME IN.
THE SWEEPER HAS TO COME IN THERE.
WE GOT TO GO TO WINTERIZE THOSE ITEMS AND GET THEM IN THERE? THEN YES, THOSE BAYS WILL POSSIBLY BE ALL FULL WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
>> THAT'S TEMPORARY FOR [OVERLAPPING].
>> JUST TEMPORARY DURING A WINTER.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE EXTRA SPACE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE FULL AS SOON AS WE MOVE IN THIS BUILDING. NO, JUST [OVERLAPPING].
>> NORMAL OPERATIONS THOUGH, NORMAL OPERATIONS[OVERLAPPING].
>> IT HAS RIGHT NOW ENTIRELY FULL.
WE'LL HAVE ROOM TO PULL LARGER EQUIPMENT IN TO WORK ON, LIKE ON A HOT DAY OR COLD DAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'LL HAVE ROOM FOR ALL THAT.
>> HOW DO WE SPLIT THE FIVE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS?
>> I BELIEVE PARKS IS GETTING TWO FULL BAYS, AND WE'RE GETTING THREE FULL BAYS.
>> CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE THE SAME?
>> NO. I BELIEVE CURRENTLY YOU HAVE THREE APPARENTLY, YES [OVERLAPPING]. WE USE THE OTHER FIVE.
BUT AGAIN, TWO OF THOSE TWO FULL OF THOSE DRIVE THROUGH BAYS ARE STACKS OF BEATERS AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS ON THOSE SHELVES THAT WILL BE GONE OUT OF HERE.
>> THIS BUILDING CAN BE ADDED ON TO LATER ON THOSE BAYS
>> IT CAN, YES, SIR. IT'S EXPANDABLE TO THE EAST AND ALSO TO THE NORTH. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
I REMEMBER EARLY EARLY ON IN PROGRAMMING, THERE WERE SOME BASE SPACES DEDICATED TOWARDS IT, WORKING ON SOME CARS OR SOMETHING.
HAS THAT GONE AWAY OR IS THAT STILL A POSSIBILITY?
>> OCCASIONALLY IT HAPPENS WITH POLICE CARS.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT.
>> OF COURSE, YES IT CAN BE ADDED ON.
YES, I UNDERSTAND. WE NEED TO STAY WITH THE BUDGET.
BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET A BACK COMPUTER BUG WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND ON DAY 1 TO BE LEAST DISRUPTIVE, COME BACK AND ADD ON, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE GOING TO PAGE RIGHT.
THAT'S THE MOST OBVIOUS WAY THAT YOU WOULD EXPAND, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME INTERRUPTION OF SERVICE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
>> PROS AND CONS, OBVIOUSLY IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD HAVE A INFLATIONARY EXPENSES.
IT'S GOING TO COST MORE TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE.
GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. MY QUESTION IS IF WE WERE TO KEEP AT THE FIVE, IF YOU'RE SAYING WE COULD COME UNDER THE PROJECTED BUDGET AT 4.9 AND BY ADDING A SIX.
WHAT DO WE COME IN AT IF WE'RE JUST AT THE FIVE? HOW MUCH SAVINGS IS THERE? I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK?
>> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR [INAUDIBLE] RISK, BUT I'M GOING TO DO SOME QUICK MATH.
>> HE TOOK MY QUESTION. WHAT WAS [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE MAY GO FROM 4.9, WE MAY GO TO 475.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH CONCRETE AND THE DEMO AND ADDING ON AND EVERYTHING, PROBABLY 2.5X OR 3XTHAT IF WE EVER WANTED TO ADD ADD ON TO IT.
>> IF YOU WERE TO ADD ON THIS LATER, YOUR COST PER SQUARE FOOT GOES UP.
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YOU GO INTERRUPTION OF OPERATIONS BECAUSE WHATEVER IN THOSE IN THAT LEAN TWO BASE IS THEN GOING TO BE REPLACED.WHEN THAT HAPPENS IF IT WAS 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD MOVE IF IT WAS INSIDE THE 3-5 YEARS, WE PROBABLY LOOK OVER OUR SHOULDERS THEY SHOULD HAVE OUR CODE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT STILL HAVE TO COVERED AREAS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH BOUNDARY LINES OF THE PROPERTY.
>> CORRECT. THAT'S WHERE ALL FIELD EQUIPMENT BACKS ALL SEES THAT WE PARK UNDER THAT CURRENTLY.
>> HOW MANY STALLS DO YOU HAVE WITH THOSE?
>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EIGHT, AND WE CAN THAT'S EASILY EXPANDABLE THERE AS WELL, WHICH THAT'S THE PLAN IN THE FUTURE.
MORE BASE TO THAT IF WE EVER NEED TO BOAST MORE AS WE GO ON.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OFFICES.
WHAT IS THE OBSESSION WITH AN OFFICE FOR EVERYBODY? WELL, OUR BILLING SERVICES DEPARTMENT ALL ARE IN CUBICLES, FOR THE MOST PART, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DIRECTOR.
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE CURRENTLY PLANNED 13 OFFICES AND WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THOSE OFFICES? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRYING TO DESIGN A BUILDING THAT WOULD LAST 50 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, AND BEFORE WE HAVE TO ADD ONTO IT.
BY DOING OFFICES, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT FILL UP A LOT FASTER AS OPPOSED TO OPEN OFFICE CONCEPT.
HIGH CUBICLE WALLS WILL BE FINE, TOO BUT YOU CAN CRAM A LOT MORE CUBICLES IN THERE THAN YOU CAN IN DOING WALLED OFFICES LIKE THIS.
>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. CAN I REFER TO SCREEN?
>> I SAW THE BOTTOM PART WHERE IT SAYS FUTURE.
>> AS I WORKED WITH STAFF, THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE PRETTY MUCH DEDICATED HARD WALL OFFICES.
THESE ARE VERY OBVIOUSLY WORKSTATIONS.
THIS WAS AN OFFICE SPACE THAT WE DELINEATED THIS OFFICE, BUT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAS THE ABILITY TO BE OPEN OFFICE UP HERE AS WELL.
IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT CLEARLY ENOUGH, I SHOULD HAVE.
BUT THIS, AS I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STEFF, THIS IS ALSO AN AREA THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN A HIGH CUBICLE WORKSTATION AS WELL SO SHOWING THAT FLEXIBILITY.
WE'RE JUST SHOWING IT THIS WAY. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE THESE HARD WALL OFFICES OUT RIGHT NOW AND SIMPLY SHOW CUBICLES IN THIS WORK STATION, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
>> MY CURIOSITY, IS THERE ANY LOAD-BEARING WALLS IN THAT AREA?
>> I JUST COME FROM THE WORLD OF CUBICLE LANDS.
FEW PEOPLE GET AN OFFICE, BUT NOT EVERYBODY GETS AN OFFICE.
>> WELL, MY QUESTION TOO IS X NUMBER OF OFFICES.
HOW MANY HOURS A DAY IS THAT OFFICE OCCUPIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE IN THERE DOING INSIDE WORK ALL DAY LONG?
>> I KNOW WE HAVE ONE FULL-TIME PERSON WHO'S IN THERE ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE TWO OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 50-50, I'D SAY.
>> WE GOT A BUNCH OF EMPTY AIR CONDITIONED SPACE WITH NOBODY IN THEM.
>> I BELIEVE, ORIGINALLY, WE HAD FOUR OFFICES ONLY DEDICATED TO PUBLIC WORKS THERE.
I KNOW THE DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING, NOT EVEN IN THIS BUILDING.
BUT WE ONLY HAVE FOUR OFFICES DEDICATED ORIGINALLY, THE EXTRA ONE IS FOR IN THE FUTURE.
I SEE THE CITY GROWING, WE'LL HAVE TWO SEPARATE SUPERINTENDENTS, ONE FOR JUST UTILITIES ONLY AND ONE FOR PUBLIC WORK SITE ONLY, VERSUS HAVING ONE THAT DOES EVERYTHING.
>> HOW FAR IS THIS GOING TO GET US?
>> IT'S PROJECTED OUT FOR 25-30 YEARS IS WHAT WE PROJECTED ALL THIS STUFF OUT FOR.
>> BRET, HOW MUCH SAVINGS WOULD YOU GET IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT ALL THESE WALLS IN?
>> LET ME CLARIFY WHICH WALLS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT JUST THIS SECTION HERE?
>> LET'S SAY SOME OF IT. LET'S SAY HALF OF IT.
>> MAYBE WE KEEP THESE THREE OFFICES HERE, MAYBE OMIT THOSE FOUR, CHANGE ALL OF THIS OUT HERE TO CUBICLES.
>> JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, HOW MUCH SAVINGS WILL YOU [INAUDIBLE]?
>> I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
>> THAT OFFICE SPACE IS 9,000 SO THAT
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MAY BE ABOUT 200,000 IF WE LEFT IT OPEN.>> HECTOR, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED OFFICES? I'D ASK THE SAME THING TO MARKS AS WELL.
>> WE NEED TWO FULL WALLED OFF OFFICES.
WE NEED ONE FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ONE FOR OUR OPERATIONS COORDINATOR.
WE NEED TWO WALLED-OFF OFFICES FOR THOSE.
THE REST, YES, THEY CAN WORK OUT OF CUBICLES AS FIELD FOREMEN AND OUR WATER OPERATORS, FOR INSTANCE, THEY DO A LOT OF FIELD WORK AS WELL, BUT THEY DO NEED A COMPUTER AND A SPACE TO FILL THEIR NUMBERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YES, CUBICLE SPACE FOR THOSE FOLKS ARE JUST FINE OR AN OFFICE SPACE.
>> NOBODY'S ASKING THEM TO STAND UP ON SOME PALLETS. WE WERE ALL NURSED UP.
>> I'VE WORKED IN CUBICLES MOST OF MY LIFE.
>> IT WORKS FOR SOME OF OUR STAFF, NOT FOR OTHERS, THAT'S ALL.
>> FOR PARKS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE OFFICES FROM MAN-MADE AND ADJACENT.
NOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO OFFICE AT AFTER THIS IS BUILT, AND WE WOULD JUST NEED ONE.
FOR ME, NONE OF MY GUYS HAVE OFFICES.
>> WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE ALL OF THESE OFFICES OR ANOTHER BAY?
>> I THINK, DO YOU PREFER THE EXTRA BAY VERSUS HAVING ALL THOSE WALLED UP IN THE CENTER, YES.
>> WELL, THOSE CAN BE BUILT IN CHEAPER THAN THAT BAY CAN BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE.
>> I WAS MAKING A STATEMENT. I WAS JUST SAYING THE OFFICES CAN BE BUILT AT A LATER DATE, CHEAPER THAN THAT BAY CAN BE EXTENDED.
>> I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING ISN'T CHANGING.
WE CAN KEEP THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AS IS.
AS FAR AS THE OFFICE SPACE GOES.
YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S EASIER TO SEE THE TILES AND DUCT WIRE [INAUDIBLE] HERE DOWN THE ROAD THAN ADDING ON CONCRETE AND STEEL.
>> IF I HAD MY PICK, I WOULD SAY ALL THE OFFICES ON THE WESTERN WALL WOULD BE MIMING.
EVERYTHING ELSE BECOMES AN OPEN FLOOR PLAN AND OUT OF BAY.
I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY MORE OFFICES THAN TECHNICALLY NEEDED.
IT SAYS IT LOOKS LIKE SIX, MAYBE SEVEN.
>> WE'RE TALKING. THAT GIVES THE OPTION, I GUESS.
I KNOW STEWART SAID HE WOULD BE THERE, BUT THAT GIVES THE OPTION, I GUESS FOR PARKS DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT TO BE OUT THERE AS WELL.
WE GIVE YOU THAT OPTION, WHICH MAY OPEN UP SPACE AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
>> WHERE IS YOUR ASSISTANT TONIGHT?
>> HE'S NOT HERE. HE'S PROBABLY AT HOME, I WOULD ASSUME.
>> IT'S A GOOD ONE TO BE HERE FOR.
>> I DIDN'T ASK HIM TO BE HERE. APOLOGIZE.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I'M IN FAVOR OF AN OPEN OFFICE CONCEPT OF WHATEVER.
HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO SLICE AND DICE TO GET THERE.
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU GET THE SAVINGS ON THE OFFICE SIDE, WHICH AS COUNCILMAN STEWART MENTIONED, WE CAN BUILD THAT OUT LATER AS YOU NEED TO.
IF IT MEANT THAT YOUR SAVINGS OFFSETS YOUR COST OF YOUR BAY, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE OTHER BAY IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FEELS THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
>> MY BIG THING ON THE BAY IS THE COST NOW VERSUS THE COST IN THE FUTURE, AND ANY POTENTIAL DISRUPTION YOU WOULD NEED TO.
>> IT'S NOT IF YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT, IT'S WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT.
>> IT IS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES THAT I WANT YOU TO LOOK A LITTLE AHEAD.
>> THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS VEHICLE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SELECTED AS FAR AS BRINGING ON THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER RISKING.
IT TAKES SOME OF THIS GUESS WORK OUT.
MY SUGGESTION FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER RIGHT NOW IS MAYBE BLENDING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP, KEEPING ALL THE HARD WALL OFFICES NOW ON THE WEST SIDE, TAKING EVERYTHING ELSE OUT ON THE INTERIOR,
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GOING TO CUBICLE SPACE, ADDING THE ADDITIONAL BAYS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN LET THE DESIGN PROCESS GO THROUGH THAT 95% GMD.THAT AGAIN, STILL GIVES YOU ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT BUDGET MUCH MORE ACCURATELY THAN WHAT I'M PROJECTING TONIGHT.
>> IF WE'RE STILL WAY OFF BUDGET, THEN WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME MORE OFFICES TO CLEAN UP AND TAKE THAT OUT FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SAVINGS.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE SUGGESTION TO ME.
>> YOU GOT TO CREEPING TOWARDS.
>> COUNCIL, ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS?
>> LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING BACK FROM YOU SOON.
>> APPRECIATE THAT ON THE FLY, MATT.
>> I SAID THAT ON THE FLY ESTIMATION.
>> THAT'S NOT HALF OF 80. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE CALL.
>> ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF ANNUAL UPDATE
[6. Discussion and annual update on the Kiber Reserve Subdivision Development.]
ON THE KIBER RESERVE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT.>> [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED. I JUST DON'T SEE YOUR NOTES OVER HERE.
[7. Discussion and annual update on the Greystone Subdivision Development.]
DISCUSSION OF ANNUAL UPDATE ON THE GREYSTONE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
FOR THE ANNUAL UPDATE ON THE GREYSTONE, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR A WHILE, SO WE HAVE GOT WITH ADAMS HOLMES, PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY BUILDER IN THERE.
WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] ENTRY WITH ADAMS HOLMES WHO WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE THERE ON THAT SUBDIVISION AND TOUCH ON, I GUESS, THE IMPORTANT PART OF THE REAR GATE ON NORTH REMINGTON OF THE 50% BUILT OUT AND SHE CAN TOUCH ON THAT PERCENTAGE?
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS HILLARY GODRE.
I'M THE BUILDER SUPERINTENDENT BROWNS HOMES IN THE GREYSTONE SUBDIVISION.
OUT OF OUR 111 LOTS, WE HAVE 55 THAT ARE CURRENTLY FINISHED COMPLETELY, WHICH IS RIGHT AT 50%.
BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, WE WILL HAVE TWO MORE HOUSES READY TO PUSH US RIGHT PAST THAT PERCENT MARK.
WE ARE PLANNING ON STARTING FOUR HOMES A MONTH IN THE SUBDIVISION, AND WE HAVE EIGHT CURRENTLY IN BANKS.
YOU ALREADY HAVE PROJECTED BUILDER OR THAT'S JUST PROJECTION ON SALES FIGURES, OR SPEC HOMES, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT MY PRODUCTION MANAGER IS PLANNING ON RELEASING TO ME.
DEPENDING ON THE SALES THAT COULD BE MORE, I KNOW MY SALES AGENT CURRENTLY HAD THREE WHEELS DONE THIS PAST WEEK.
>> IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME WITH THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING SECTION OF THAT, BUT THAT IS THEIR CURRENT PROJECTION.
>> ARE YOU JUST SELLING THEM BY LOT LOCATIONS OR ARE YOU FOCUSING ON LIKE PROXIMITY TOWARDS FRONT OF THE SUBDIVISION OR THE BACK SUBDIVISION? HOW DOES THAT WORK? OR IS IT JUST WHEREVER THE PURCHASER WANTS TO BUILD?
>> TYPICALLY, OUR COMPANY BUILDS SPEC HOMES, AND WE SELL THE FINISHED PRODUCTS.
WE DO ALLOW OUR CLIENTS TO BUY A LOT IF THEY ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN ONE AREA, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN MY SUBDIVISION, AT LEAST, HOW THAT'S BEEN GOING? WE'RE SELLING OUT FASTER THAN WE CAN BUILD.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT THE AVERAGE DAYS ON THE MARKET IS FOR YOUR SPEC HOMES?
>> WE DO HAVE ONE HOME THAT HAD FINISHED BUILDING OVER THE SUMMER THAT HAS NOT YET SOLD.
OTHER THAN THAT, AGAIN, I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH MY SALES AGENT IN THAT SUBDIVISION.
AS FAR AS AN ACCURATE AVERAGE TIME THAT THEY ARE ON THE MARKET, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
I WOULD NOT KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
>> IT'S JUST BE INTERESTING TO KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY SO MANY DEVELOPERS THAT 70 FOOT LOTS JUST DON'T SELL AND I JUST WANT TO APPROVE.
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>> THAT'S NOT YOUR EXPERIENCE. WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE?
>> WE'RE SELLING FASTER THAN WE CAN BUILD.
IT'S NOT TYPICAL OF AT LEAST THE PRODUCT THAT MY DIVISION HAS BEEN BUILDING SO FAR, THAT WE SELL AT, BUT THAT SO FAR IS MOSTLY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN GREYSTONE.
>> YOU ALL OWN REMAINING LOTS IN THAT SUBDIVISION?
>> YOU OWN ALL THE LOTS REMAINING IN THAT SUBDIVISION?
>> THERE IS ONE THAT WE DO NOT OWN.
>> THE HOA IS STILL CURRENTLY UNDER APPLIN HOMES.
TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY ARE PLANNING ON OUTSOURCING THAT.
>> WERE THEY STILL SUPPOSED TO PUT A PARK IN?
>> JUST A BIG GREEN SPACE ON THE BACK SIDE.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER A PARK, HAVING TO LOOK INTO.
BUT THE DETENTIONS ON THE BACK.
NO FOUNTAINS, NO ANY OF THAT, JUST YOUR SIDEWALKS, OF COURSE, BUT I CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT I DON'T RECALL A PARK.
SHE'S TALKING, THIS IS GOING TO BE READY HERE IN A WEEK OR TWO, THAT'S 50% MET.
WE COULD BRING THAT BACK, I GUESS, WHEN THE TIME COMES, OR PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE NORTH REMINGTON WILL BE SURPRISED, PROBABLY WITH THE TRAFFIC FOR EITHER WAY.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY TRAFFIC ON.
>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE BAD, THOUGH.
>> I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO PUT PUBLIC NOTICE.
>> IS THE DETENTION POND BEING WELL MAINTAINED?
>> THERE WAS A FEW TIMES WE HAD TO GET WITH THE HOA.
>> IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO BE A WILLOW TREE AND [INAUDIBLE] TREE OUT THERE.
>> AT THE PRESENT, THEY'RE DOING GOOD ON ALL THAT, WHICH LIKE SHE SAID, THEY OWN THE LOTS NOW, SO AS FAR AS EXCEPT ONE, SO THEY'RE KEEPING AND MAINTAINING THE UNBUILT LOTS AND EVERYTHING.
BUT YEAH, THE DETENTION POND IS FINE RIGHT NOW.
>> WHAT'S YOUR TIMETABLE? WHEN DO YOU THINK THIS WILL ALL BE FINISHED AT THE [NOISE] FOLLOWING, IS IT TWO YEARS?
>> LET ME CONSULT MY NOTES, SORRY.
>> I THINK AROUND TWO YEARS WOULD BE AN INACCURATE TIME FRAME.
IF WE'RE DOING FOUR HOMES A MONTH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 46 EMPTY LOTS, SO I WOULD SAY TWO YEARS IS INACCURATE.
>> IT MAKES SENSE. HOW ABOUT TWO?
>> I DON'T GET ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.
>> THAT'S NOT A QUESTION. IS ADAMS' HOME KEEPING IN THE SAME BUILD STRUCTURE AS WHAT APEN WAS DOING, THE AMOUNT OF BRICK FACADE, STILL THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF HOME, OR ARE YOU DOING THING SMALLER ON THAT LOT?
>> I AM LESS FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PRODUCT.
RIGHT NOW OUR FLOOR PLANS IN THE SUBDIVISION RANGE, OUR SMALLEST IS A2005, AND THE LARGEST WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS A2557.
WE HAVE FOUR-SIDED BRICK, BUT THE FRONTS OF ALL OF OUR HOMES AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT APEN WAS DOING? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
>> ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE
[8. Discussion and possible action to approve a utility rate increase based on the New Gen Strategies and Solutions utility rate study.]
A UTILITY RATE INCREASE BASED ON THE NEWGEN STRATEGIES & SOLUTIONS UTILITY RATE STUDY.>> THAT'S ME. HOWDY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
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MY NAME'S MATTHEW GARRETT WITH NEWGEN STRATEGIES & SOLUTIONS.GOOD TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
WHAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING REALLY IS A FOCUS ON A ONE-YEAR RATE STUDY.
WE CERTAINLY COULD PROJECT FURTHER, BUT WE HAVE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON THE SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC WASTEWATER FACILITY, THE FUNDING OF THAT.
WHAT YOU HAVE ARE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY PERUSED THE PACKET.
ONE WOULD BE FOR NEXT MONTH, THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR YOUR 10/1/2025 FISCAL YEAR '26 BUDGET PROCESS.
DO WE HAVE THE SLIDE, NICK, BY CHANCE? EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. JUST CLICK ON WORK, OR DO I JUST SAY NEXT?
>> NEXT. GO AHEAD. FANTASTIC, I SAW A CLICKER.
FAIR ENOUGH. AGAIN, A SPOILER.
THIS FOCUS WAS THE 8 MILLION DOLLAR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT.
AS CONTEMPLATED, I BELIEVE, PRESENTED BY SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC TO THIS COUNCIL ALREADY.
WE DO WANT TO PROVIDE INDICATIVE RATE PLAN OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WE ALSO HAVE COSTS THAT ARE RISING IN OUR OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE INCREASING.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO GENERATE REVENUES THAT MEET YOUR FINANCIAL TARGETS AND PAY THE NEW DEBT. IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT.
I PURPOSELY KEPT THIS SLIDE BRIEF, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO POP THE HOOD AND TALK ABOUT UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS AND WHAT'S IN THE MODEL, I CAN DO SO.
I HAVE THE SPREADSHEET NEXT TO ME IF WE NEED IT, BUT VERY BASICALLY, WE HAVE MUNICIPAL COST INDEX AFFECTING MOST OF YOUR NON-PERSONNEL NON NON-CAPITAL RELATED ITEMS. THAT'S 2.92%. INDICATIONS FROM MOST FORECASTERS ARE GENERAL INFLATION WILL BE LESS RIGHT NOW IN THAT 2.6 RANGE, BUT ON HISTORICAL BASIS, 2.92, CONSERVATIVELY, SHOULD COVER WHAT WE NEED.
WE USE CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX.
THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN MOVING QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, BUT AGAINST DOLLARS THAT ARE PROJECTED FROM ENGINEERS TODAY, WE HAVE EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
IF AND WHEN YOU HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION IN FUTURE, WE WOULD USE ENR OR RELATED CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX.
SALARY INCREASES ARE A MODEST 2% PER ANNUM, BENEFITS AROUND FIVE.
BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY, WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THEIR RATES.
WE DO HAVE SOME STEEP INCREASES, SO ABOUT 11% ON THE WATER SIDE.
THEN ULTIMATELY, TO FUND THAT EIGHT MILLION, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ABOUT $600,000 ADDITIONALLY EACH YEAR FOR DEBT SERVICE.
THOSE ARE THE KEY ASSUMPTIONS ON THE COST SIDE.
ON THE REVENUE SIDE, YOU DO HAVE YOUR CUSTOMER BASE GROWING THAT SPLIT BETWEEN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENTIAL CURRENTLY OF 1.25 FOR OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS THAT'S MAINTAINED THROUGH THIS RATE STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE NEAR-TERM RATE ADJUSTMENTS ARE ONLY ON THE MINIMUM RATE.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK AND ADDRESS THE INSIDE VERSUS OUTSIDE RATES AND WHAT THE METHODOLOGY IS OR WHAT'S THE CONSTRAINTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS?
>> SURE. LET ME START WITH JURISDICTION.
AS A COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ORIGINAL RATE SETTING JURISDICTION WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES.
YOUR VOTERS THAT CAN COME AND VOTE YOU ON AND VOTE YOU OFF DON'T HAVE AN APPELLATE RIGHT ANYWHERE ELSE BUT HERE AND AT THE BALLOT BOX.
YOUR OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS, ON THE OTHER HAND, CAN APPEAL YOUR RATES WITHIN 90 DAYS, SUBJECT TO CHECK OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE RATES TO THE PUC.
IF CHALLENGED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEFEND WHY THERE'S A RATE DIFFERENTIAL, AND IT TAKES 10% OR 10,000 CUSTOMERS, WHICHEVER IS LESS HERE, THAT WOULD BE THE 10% BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING 250, MAYBE 300, DEPENDS ON WHERE WE ARE IN DEVELOPMENT AND WHEN THOSE NEW HOMES COME ON MINE THAT THE MAYOR JUST TALKED ABOUT.
10% IS A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER TO COMPEL AN APPEAL.
NOT TO GO TOO DEEP, CHRIS, BUT GENERALLY, THE RATE DIFFERENTIAL IS A PREFERENCE OF THE COUNCIL.
IT'S THE HISTORICAL NORM HERE AND IT'S MAINTAINED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORTED BY A DETAILED COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS THAT NEWGEN HAS PERFORMED.
I WORK WITH COUNTLESS COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS.
MOST OF THEM HAVE SOME RATE DIFFERENTIAL.
I CAN THINK OF 10 OR SO THAT HAVE HAD THOSE APPEALED, AND IT IS A BEATING AND IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE COUNCIL STANDS AT THAT TIME AND HOW HARD YOU WANT TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS PROBABLY CAN'T DO MATH AS GOOD AS THE OTHER AGGIE, BUT I'M GOING TO AGGIE TOO.
I'LL TRY. WE'LL SAY MAYBE ABOUT $60,000 PER ANNUM IS YOUR DIFFERENTIAL RIGHT NOW.
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ONE ATTORNEY AND TWO TRIPS TO AUSTIN, AND MAYBE THAT'S DEPLETED.THERE IS A RISK, REWARD, COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO CONDUCT IF THAT WERE TO COME.
AT THE SAME TIME, YOU COULD LET IT RIDE.
IT IS THE STANDING PRACTICE OF PRIOR COUNCILS, AND IF NO ONE APPEALS.
THE 25% DIFFERENTIAL IS NOT THE HIGHEST.
I DON'T THINK IT PUTS A TARGET UNDER BACK, BUT JUST KNOW, AND IF THAT'S WHERE WE WERE GOING, I HOPE I'M ON POINT, CHRIS, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NEWGEN WOULD SAY, THIS IS COST JUSTIFIED.
THIS IS A RATE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL.
IT COULD BE COST JUSTIFIED, BUT WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH YOUR ENGINEERS.
WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH YOUR SYSTEM DETAIL.
WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE TIME SPENT.
THE INCH FEET IS OUR GOLD STANDARD.
THE SIZE OF THE PIPE AND THE LENGTH OF THE PIPE AND HOW MUCH ARE WE INVESTING OUTSIDE OUR BOUNDARIES, HOW MUCH INVESTMENT IS SUNK.
THE LAST POINT ON THIS IS, GENERALLY, THEY COULD GET WATER FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO YOU UNLESS YOUR CCN EXTENDS THERE.
THEY COULD GO FIND WATER SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEN YOU'D BE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG ON THE SUNK INFRASTRUCTURE COST.
THAT'S THE PREMISE AROUND SOME REASONABLE RETURN FOR THE CITY AS THE INVESTOR IN THIS UTILITY.
THOSE ARE THE RAMBLINGS AROUND OUTSIDE CITY RATES, BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASSUMING THAT HOLDS CONSTANT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, CHRIS?
>> YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE BENEFITS TO DEMOGRAPHICS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU SAY OVER 65 OR SOME OTHER PART OF THIS COULD TWEAK THOSE RATES, SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THAT IS, AND THEN HOW DO YOU MAKE IT UP WITH EVERYONE ELSE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. FOR BETTER OR WORSE, WE HAVE TWO-DAY LECTURES ON RATE SETTING.
I WON'T WORRY WITH ALL THAT, BUT IN THAT, WE HAVE WHAT IS A BINGO CARD? YOU AS A COUNCIL HAVE USED THIS WITH OTHER COUNCILS, COULD TAKE HOURS IF YOU WANTED, BUT YOU GET TO CHOOSE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S GOT TO BE PAID FOR.
WHOSE POCKET, HOW MUCH, AND HOW DO WE GET THERE? DO WE SEND CONSERVATION SIGNALS? DO WE MAINTAIN REVENUE STABILITY? NAMELY, ON THAT NOTE, REVENUE STABILITY IS A PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE RATES WE'RE RECOMMENDING BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MINIMUM ONLY RATE.
FOR GETTING IT IN MINIMUMS, IT'S FIXED AND OUR DEBT SERVICE IS FIXED.
THAT'S A MATCHING RATE DECISION THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
YOU COULD GO FOR USER UNDERSTANDING, YOU COULD GO FOR INTER-GENERATIONAL EQUITY.
THERE ARE 100 DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES, BUT SOME WORK WELL IN HARMONY, AND SOME ARE ALMOST IN DISCORD.
HOW DO WE DRIVE CONSERVATION, BUT ENSURE ENOUGH REVENUE COMES IN? HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TO BUY LESS OF OUR STUFF, BUT STILL MAKE FREIGHT? DICHOTOMIES ARE BOUND IN RATE SETTING, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE ART, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO SLICE IT.
AT THE MOMENT, WE'VE MAINTAINED YOUR CURRENT RATE DESIGN, EXCEPT THAT WE'VE ADJUSTED MINIMUM RATES ONLY FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR RATES OR WHEN I SHOW THEM IN A MINUTE, IF THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY DO, BUT I THINK THE MORE IMMEDIATE ACTION OF MAKING SURE OUR RATES ARE SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE IMMEDIATE CAPITAL LEAD WAS PARAMOUNT FOR THIS DISCUSSION, AND THEN MAYBE HAVE SOME TIME TO ADJUST THE NEXT STEP BEFORE OCTOBER.
I THINK I'VE ALREADY COVERED THE LAST BULLET.
IF YOU GO, PLEASE, SIR. OPERATING COST, JUST TO SHOW YOU BRIEFLY, YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME EXISTING DEBT SERVICE AS THAT TOP LAYER.
WE'RE BRINGING ON THAT NEXT SLIVER, THAT BLUE, I BELIEVE IT'S BLUE.
PROJECTED DEBT SERVICE IN 2026.
YOUR WATER PURCHASES, AS STATED ALREADY, ARE GOING UP 10.6%, 10.7%.
YOUR O&M DOES HAVE INCREASES, YOUR UNDERLYING COST FOR PERSONNEL AND OTHER ITEMS. LASTLY, THAT GREEN BAR AT THE BOTTOM, YOU HAVE ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF WHAT WE CALL REVENUE OFFSETS.
THEY HELP US WITH OUR TOTAL COSTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GROWING SUBSTANTIALLY.
THAT IS ALMOST AN EQUAL NUMBER.
THAT HALF MILLION BRINGS DOWN THE 12.6 TO 12.1 IN YEAR 1, AND IT BRINGS DOWN THE 13.6 DOWN TO 13.1.
THAT LINE CHART IS THE REVENUE REQUIREMENT, THE TOTAL WE NEED TO MAKE IT THROUGH RATE.
WHEN I SAY FIX SUM GAME, THAT'S THE TARGET.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE $13.1 MILLION FROM SOMEONE WHO'S A USER ON OUR SYSTEM THROUGH SOME BLEND OF MINIMUM AND VOLUMETRIC CHARGES.
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>> WHAT ARE THESE NUMBERS BASED FROM? WHERE DID YOU GET THIS DATA FROM? FROM OUR FINANCE TEAM?
>> YES, SIR. THIS YEAR 2025 BUDGET FIGURES.
WHICH IS PRETTY NORMAL IN MUNICIPAL RATE SETTING IF THAT HELPS.
>> BUT DID YOU TREND IT OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO ESTIMATE THIS, OR DID YOU JUST TAKE WHAT THE AVERAGE IS FOR THE LOCAL AREA WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR AVERAGE RATE INCREASES?
>> YOU HAVE 5.7 BUILT IN HERE.
I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO THAT NUMBER.
>> SURE. A LOT OF YOUR COSTS ARE RELATED TO YOUR WHOLESALE PROVIDER, BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY.
YOU HAVE OTHER BAKED IN INCREASES.
AS STATED, THE MUNICIPAL COST INDEX IS ABOUT 2.92, THAT IT'S A 20-YEAR HISTORICAL TREND THAT'S PUBLISHED BY AMERICAN CITY AND COUNTY.
WE PUT IN A NUMBER OF GROWTH FACTORS, BUT WE EFFECTIVELY ARE GROWING 5.7% PER ANNUM AFTER YOU MERGE ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.
>> HOW DID YOU ALREADY GET THE BW8 RATE INCREASE AMOUNT? DID THEY TELL YOU THAT?
>> WE GOT IT FROM THE GROSS AMOUNT. YES, SIR.
>> IT'D BE NICE IF THEY SHARE THAT WITH US.
>> DO I HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT? I INTENDED TO.
PERHAPS I JUST TALKED ABOUT THE ONE YEAR INCREASE.
YES, SIR. THE FIVE-YEAR HORIZON TO MY RECOLLECTION, HECTOR CAN CORRECT ME.
>> IT'S ABOUT 10%, AND IT ACTUALLY RATCHETS DOWN SLOWLY TO ABOUT EIGHT? MAYBE EIGHT OR NINE IN YEAR 5, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR WHOLESALE WATER PROVIDERS TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL COSTS, NOT ONLY FOR THEIR CAPITAL, BUT FOR THEIR OPERATING COST AS WELL.
WE'RE SEEING THAT ALL OVER THE STATE.
>> THE DIFFERENCE IN THE 13.1 FROM THE 12.1, THE BIGGEST PORTION THAT'S ALL IS, OF COURSE, THE NEW DEBT.
>> BUT WATER PURCHASES, YOUR O&M IS PRETTY STEADY?
>> IS THERE OFFSETS IN THAT O&M AS WELL?
>> THE ONLY OFFSETS ARE IN THAT BELOW THE MARK THERE, THE HALF MILLION PLUS OR MINUS.
>> YES, SIR. THOSE ARE OUR OTHER FEES.
I WOULD NOT HAVE INCLUDED ANYTHING THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION EARLIER TODAY RELATED TO USER FEES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE FEES WOULD MOVE THE NEEDLE, REALLY, EVEN IF IT WAS A $600,000 INSTEAD OF A 550 OR 500.
WE MAY NOT BE TALKING MUCH DIFFERENT ON OUR RATES, BUT IN FAIRNESS, WHATEVER WAS CONTEMPLATED ON YOUR USER FEE STUDY WAS NOT IN MY STUDY.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
THIS IS OUR LITTLE DASHBOARD. WE'RE DOING A TWO-YEAR.
IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ON THE FAR LEFT, WE HAVE EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUES.
WE'D LIKE THE REVENUES, THE TOWER, THE MARK TO BE AS HIGH AS THE LINE.
THE LINE REPRESENTS OUR EXPENSES.
OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO IS A TARGETED 1.25.
WE'VE PROBABLY TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE IS PAYING FOR ALL THE BILLS, ALL THE OPERATING EXPENSE, PAYING FOR YOUR DEBTS, AND THEN HAVING YET AGAIN 25% OF YOUR DEBT FOR THAT YEAR.
THAT'S OUR TARGET, WHICH MEANS BRINGING BACK CASH, HAVING MORE PROJECTED THAN WE NEED YEAR-TO-YEAR SO WE'RE NOT LIVING CHECK TO CHECK.
IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR BONDHOLDERS TO KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST ENOUGH TO PAY THE BILLS.
LASTLY, THE DAYS CASH ON HAND, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT MEETING OUR TARGET OF 90 DAYS.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET THERE IN A YEAR, BUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE OUTCOME OF NO RATE CHANGES.
WE DON'T GET DOWN TO $0, BUT WE GET DOWN TO SIX DAYS APPROXIMATELY IN RESERVE, NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
BLEAK PICTURE, BUT IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, CHANGE IS COMING.
ADVANCE TO THE BOTTOM, MAYBE WHERE YOUR EYE GOES IMMEDIATELY.
WE ARE PROPOSING A WASTEWATER MINIMUM RATE INCREASE OF 25% EFFECTIVE MARCH 2025.
THEN AGAIN, WE'RE RECOMMENDING ANOTHER 25% IN OCTOBER.
THIS IS TO THE MINIMUM CHARGE ONLY TO THE BILL, AND 10% ON WATER.
THE 10% IS GOING TO HELP OFFSET THAT ADDITIONAL COST FROM BRAZOSPORT AND OUR OTHER EXPENSES.
>> NO SURPRISE. THE LEFT TWO KPIS ARE HIT.
WE'RE MAKING FIGHT, WE'RE PAYING OUR BILLS.
WE'RE HITTING OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO IF OUR TARGET IS INTENTIONAL.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET ALL THE WAY TO A 90-DAY RESERVE IN ONE YEAR.
IT MAY NOT BE FAIR TO CURRENT RATE PAYERS.
WE THINK WE WOULD BUILD INTO THAT PRETTY GOOD [NOISE] STRUCTURE FROM 30-45. WE HAVE A PLAN TO GET THERE.
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ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS OR WHAT OUR RATES ARE MEANT TO DO? THIS IS REALLY THE DRIVER BEHIND THE RATES I RECOMMEND.HEARING NONE IF YOU'D ADVANCE, SIR. WHAT DO YOUR RATES LOOK LIKE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AUTOPAY.
I DON'T KNOW MY BILL IN MCKINNEY. IT'S ON AUTOPAY.
BUT THESE ARE YEAR RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
ALL CONNECTIONS PAY 33.61 ON MINIMUM.
AGAIN, THE 10% INCREASE ON MINIMUM ONLY IN OCTOBER WOULD RAISE THAT TO 36.97.
ALL OTHER RATES STAY THE SAME BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AFFECTING VOLUMETRIC AT THIS POINT.
IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PROBABLY MORE APROPOS FOR THIS MEETING.
WE DO HAVE TWO INCREASES EXPECTED AGAIN, 25%, BIG STAGGERING PERCENTAGE NUMBER, LOOKING AT THE CHANGE GOING UP LESS THAN FOUR DOLLARS, MAYBE A BETTER WAY TO SHARE THAT NEWS THAT IT'S A LESS THAN FOUR DOLLAR INCREASE ON THE MINIMUMS. THEN YET AGAIN, ANOTHER FOUR AND CHANGE IN OCTOBER.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE VOLUMETRIC RATE, ONE COULD, BUT ALL OF OUR NEW EXPENSES FOR THIS PLANT ARE FIXED.
WE THOUGHT IT'S BETTER TO GET THAT INTO FIXED RATE, IF POSSIBLE.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT, PLEASE. WHERE DOES THAT PUT YOU? WELL, RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE IN THE WE'LL SAY TOP QUARTILE, ALMOST MIDDLE OF THE PACK, TOP MIDDLE.
IF YOU MAKE THAT RATE CHANGE, YOU SEE YOU BUMP UP A NOTCH ABOVE ALVIN.
WHILE WE ARE SHOWING WHAT WOULD BE A PROPOSED OCTOBER RATE TOP OF THE CHARTS, IT'S NOT EXPECTED THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING TO DO NOTHING IN FISCAL YEAR '26.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
MOREOVER, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY DO.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT TO YOUR SYSTEM TO PROVIDE SAFE AND RELIABLE SERVICE HERE.
WHY NO COUNCILS EVERYWHERE THAT I PRESENT NEED THIS IMAGE? BUT IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS PERSON OR IF YOU JUST GET THE BASIC PRINCIPLES, INITIAL INVESTMENT IS EXPENSIVE.
WHEN YOU HAVE CAPITAL INTENSIVE YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE PAINFUL.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY LEVEL OUT IN THE PLAYING FIELD AS YOU HAVE MORE CONNECTIONS COMING ON TO ABSORB THAT FIXED COST.
AS YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE WITH FLOW COMING TO THAT PLANT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE EITHER.
IF WE NEED TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT TODAY, THE RATES HAVE TO GO UP TO SUPPORT IT IN THE NEAR TERM.
NOT TO BE PREACHY. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WHILE IT'S NICE TO KNOW, TWO BIG IMPORTANT THINGS, THEIR RATES FOR OCTOBER ARE NOT ON THIS SCREEN, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT YOUR REALITIES, NOT THEIRS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMPARISONS? FAIR ENOUGH? NEXT STEPS, REALLY, WE ADVISE THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT TAKING SOME RATE ACTION EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. I CAN'T ADVISE.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOUR ENGINEERS ADVISE YOU TO BUILD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
TO DO SO, YOU NEED THE BONDS FOR THAT.
THIS RATE STUDY WILL SUPPORT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REPAY THOSE BONDS.
THEN THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL INCREASES COMING.
THE RATE PLAN FOR OCTOBER ISN'T FIXED.
IT'S NOT THE END OF YEAR BUT IT WOULD WORK WITH THE KNOWN ASSUMPTIONS WE HAVE TODAY FOR FISCAL '26.
WITH THAT, I ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, HOLD ON IF YOU DON'T MIND. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
>> YOUR PROJECTED RATE INCREASES ARE MARCH THIS YEAR, OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH WAS OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WHAT ABOUT AFTER THAT?
>> AFTER THAT IS PREDICATED ON YOUR CAPITAL PLAN.
RIGHT NOW, I HAVE ONE CAPITAL PROJECT, AN EIGHT-MILLION-DOLLAR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.
I ANTICIPATE YOU'LL HAVE OTHER NEEDS, AND SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO READDRESS THAT WHEN THE CIP THAT'S FURTHER OUT IS BETTER DEFINED.
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN IS BASED ON THIS ONE CAPITAL PROJECT WITH THE EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS ADJUSTMENT; IF YOU FOLLOW THAT PATH THAT YOU'VE LISTED, THE MARCH 1ST, THEN THE OCTOBER 1ST OF '25.
YOU DON'T FORESEE NEEDING US TO MAKE ANY FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS UNTIL THERE'S, I GUESS, ADJUSTMENTS IN THE PLANS?
>> YES, SIR. AGAIN, ALL THOSE EQUAL, RELATIVE TO MY FORECAST, THIS WORKS.
>> THIS IS DESIGNED FOR THE TWO PROJECTS.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL ONE MORE STEP.
>> I ASKED HIM TO BACK OUT ALL THE CIP FUTURE STUFF BECAUSE THIS IS URGENT NEED FOR THE CITY.
[01:10:07]
>> IF YOU GUYS YOU COULD JUST ADD SOME CLARITY, I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT THESE RATES AND REALLY THE DELTA AND WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AND WHAT WE NEED TO PULL IN AS FAR AS REVENUE, HOW DID WE LOOK AT THIS IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL HOMES COMING ONLINE? WAS THAT BROUGHT INTO PLAY HERE, OR IS IT WHAT CHRIS SAID? HOW IS IT?
>> YES, SIR. WE HAD ABOUT 300 NET HOMES ADDED PER YEAR.
I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE HANDY.
I CAN FIND IT. I THINK WE HAD PLUS OR MINUS100 INSIDE THE CITY.
THEN THERE RELIANCE ON 100 AND CHANGE 160.
>> YOU DID SOME FORECASTING IN THAT AREA?
>>YES, SIR. SUBDIVISION BY SUBDIVISION WITH HECTOR AND OTIS ADVISING AS TO WHEN THOSE MIGHT BE REALITIES.
OF COURSE, WE PRESSED PLEASE GIVE ME THE CONSERVATIVE FIGURE, NOT THE BEST GUESS BUILDER NUMBER.
CONSERVATIVE FOR MEANS MAKING SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE, AND SO WE BACKED OFF OF MAYBE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT MAYBE IT'S PROMISED TO BE HERE, BUT WE FACED IT OVER A FEW YEARS.
>> THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS BASED ON ADDITIONAL UTILITY BILLING COMING?
>> YES, SIR. WELL, AGAIN, COUNCIL, THANK YOU.
>> THAT PRETTY WELL SAYS THAT THERE'S NO LEGAL ROOM HERE. THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.
>> IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES HERE THAT ARE ON BWA WITH US.
THEY'RE, OF COURSE, AT THE BOTTOM, AND WE'RE AT THE TOP. WHAT ARE WE DOING WRONG?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S THE QUESTION I KEEP ASKING EVERY TIME, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GIVEN ME AN ANSWER YET ON WHY IS OUR SYSTEM SO EXPENSIVE COMPARED TO OTHERS.
>> I THINK WE HAVEN'T INVESTED IN OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN YEARS PAST, AND THE CHANGES HAVE COME ON THE ROOT.
>> THAT PLANT THAT'S OUT THERE NOW WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE EARLY '90S, I BELIEVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
I DON'T GO OUT THERE, BUT TO HAVE THE REPORTS OF THE THINGS THAT ARE FAILING, HAVE BEEN FAILING, OR THE CANS HAVE BEEN KICKING DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT INVESTING AS WE'VE BEEN GOING ALONG.
NOW, THE BIKES ARE AGAINST THE WALL. IT HAS TO BE DONE.
>> THAT'S THE WAY I COULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
>> THAT'S TRUE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE HIGHER ONES.
EVEN IF WE WERE NEGLECTING THE TREATMENT PLANT FOR YEARS, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE LOWER ONES BECAUSE WE WERE DEFERRING THAT MAINTENANCE AND KEEPING OUR RATES LOW.
BUT WE'VE NEVER BEEN AT THE BOTTOM OR EVEN IN THE MIDDLE.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT THE TOP IN COST.
I KNOW THAT WE USED TO HAVE THAT PRIVATELY HELD, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME STUFF WE USED TO PAY THIRD PARTY THE MONEY, SO BE IT.
IT JUST SEEMS WE'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT IS COSTING US MORE MONEY.
I KNOW WE'VE DEFERRED THIS MAINTENANCE, NOT WE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT.
IT'S JUST A SHAME. THE BIG COST IS ON THE WATER SIDE, NOT THE WASTEWATER.
>> COUNCIL, I WAS APPROACHED A YEAR AGO OR SO BY THE BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY.
DID THEY HAVE THE RIGHTS TO OUR DISCHARGE? WE PURCHASED ALL THE WATER FOR THE BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY.
WE USE IT, AND WE JUST DUMP IT INTO A STREAM.
IT DIDN'T RAIN OUT OF THE SKY.
WE BOUGHT IT, AND WE DISCHARGED IT INTO THE STREAM.
IT MAKES ITS WAY OUT TO THE GULF OF LAKE.
I WANT TO INVESTIGATE IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE RESELL OUR WATER BACK TO BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY AND FOR A REVENUE SOURCE.
WATER IS NOW JUST GOING OUT THERE TO THE ESTUARIES.
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IF THEY COULD PURCHASE OUR WATER AT OR NEAR THE SAME RATE THAT THEY'RE PURCHASING DOW'S WATER.WELL, THAT COULD BECOME A MORE OF A POSITIVE CASH FLOW TO US.
>> WELL, THERE SHOULD AT LEAST BE SOME OFFSET.
>> THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE. THAT'S FOR THE BB STACKERS A NUMBER OF CRUNCHES TO DEAL WITH.
BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL RESOURCE OF OFFSETTING SOME OF THIS EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.
>> BUT THE SECOND PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO COST 350 OUT OF THIS MONEY HERE IS GOING TO DECREASE BY A THIRD OUR WATER CONSUMPTION BECAUSE WE USE IT FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT MONEY THEN WE CAN TURN AROUND AND SELL TO USERS INSTEAD OF US USING IT OURSELVES.
THAT WILL A REDUCE CONSUMPTION POTENTIALLY OR B LIKE YOU SUGGEST, RESELL IT TO EITHER ANGLETON OR OTHER FOLKS.
>> COUNCIL, SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME ACTION TO TAKE.
>> I WAS JUST MAYBE TALKING TO THE WIND HERE, BUT I WAS APPROACHED BY THOSE FOLKS.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO IT.
CAN WE GET THAT ONE IN THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEETINGS, PLEASE? IN THE MEANTIME, COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION TO RAISE THE SEWER RATE OF THAT FOUR DOLLARS FOR EFFECTIVE FOR MARCH.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE UTILITY RATE INCREASE BASED ON NEWGEN STRATEGY SOLUTION UTILITY RATE STUDY.
I THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE IN THIS MATTER.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
>> BEFORE YOU LEAVE WITH THAT.
WE ALL HAVE AN ABILITY TO CUT THE WATER OFF AT THE POST.
I DON'T PARTICIPATE MUCH IN THIS SOCIAL MEDIA MESS, BUT I READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
WELL, JUST GO GET IN A SHOWER, GET WET, SOAP UP, CLEAN OFF, AND WALK OUT.
[LAUGHTER] YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE A SWIM, JUST TAKE A SHOWER.
THERE ARE WAYS TO CUT BACK ON YOUR WATER.
BUT EVERY DROP THAT GOES TO THAT METER IS GOING TO GET BOUGHT.
>> ARE YOU STILL GOING TO PAY FOR FROM BWA WHETHER WE USE IT OR NOT?
>> SINCE I GOT A COUPLE OF KIDS AT THE HOUSE I NEED YOUR HELP.
>> I'M JUST SAYING FOR TWO OF US NOT MORE. I DON'T SWIM.
>> WE'RE JUST NOT BATHING AT OUR HOUSE. IT'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S DETERMINING COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> SOME OF THESE ADULTS ARE DOING THAT.
>> COUNCIL IS GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY, CONTAINER, AND ITEM NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON DELIBERATION OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.WE WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT 7:24.
A SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:33.
[OPEN SESSION]
DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION TAKEN?>> YES. I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THE OFFER FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PURCHASE OF ANY REAL PROPERTY WILL COME OUT OF A FUND THAT'S DEDICATED TO PARKLANDS.
THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE COLLECTED FROM DEVELOPMENTS, AND THIS IS NOT A GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE REST.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
LAST PIECE IS COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]
COUNCIL, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETINGS?[01:20:01]
>> I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP. IS THE UPDATE ON THE FIRE STATION [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT PROBABLY WAS GOING TO BE THE CASE.
>> I WAS GOING TO PUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER ON THERE TOO SO YOU CAN TO REVIEW THAT.
>> THAT'S GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT IT'S A SHORTER MEETING, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT TERRY'S NOT HERE, I'M JUST SAYING.
[LAUGHTER] I'M TEASING. EVERYBODY KNOWS TERRY.
>> CITY MANAGER IS [INAUDIBLE]
>> I'LL SEND HIM A THANK YOU NOTE.
>> ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING IF THERE'S ANY UPDATES, SIR.
>> HOW ABOUT I PUT ON THE AGENDA THE REPAIRS FROM THE HURRICANE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN MOTION.
>> THAT'S FINE. ANYBODY ELSE? NOT HEARING ANYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO ADJOURNMENT AT 7:35 AND 34 SECONDS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.