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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH PRESENCE TONIGHT.
THANK YOU TO ALL THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE ONLINE AND PRESENCE.
IF YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE FLAG PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
>> PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE. FATHER, AGAIN, WE COUNT IT A PRIVILEGE TO COME TO YOU, KNOWING THAT YOU HEAR US, KNOWING THAT YOU LOVE US.
FATHER, GIVE US YOUR WISDOM TONIGHT.
GUIDE US AND DIRECT US IN EVERY DECISION THAT'S MADE.
FATHER, WE JUST PRAY FOR ALL OF PEOPLE THAT WORK OUR CITY, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD ALL THE TIME AND DOING GREAT SERVICE FOR OUR CITY.
FATHER, WATCH OVER THEM, GUIDE US AND DIRECT US.
WE PRAISE YOU IN CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN.
>> MICHELLE, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS, COUNCIL?
>> GOING ON TO CEREMONY AND PRESENTATIONS.
[1. Presentation of the Fair Housing Proclamation.]
ITEM NUMBER 1, PRESENTATION OF THE FAIR HOUSING PROCLAMATION.WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO RECEIVE?
OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HAS INITIATED THE SPONSORSHIP OF ACTIVITIES DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL OF EACH YEAR DESIGNED TO REINFORCE THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMITMENT TO THE CONCEPT OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON AFFIRMATIVELY SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE OF TEXAS TO ASSURE EQUAL ACCESS TO ALL AMERICANS RENTAL HOUSING AND HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
WHEREAS, CITY OF ANGLETON WELCOMES THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REAFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE EQUAL ACCESS TO HOUSING TO ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS WITHOUT REGARD TO RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, OR SEX, DISABILITY, FAMILIAR STATUS, NATIONAL ORIGIN, OR SOURCE OF INCOME.
WHEREAS CITY OF ANGLETON AFFIRMATIVELY SUPPORTS PROGRAMS THAT WILL EDUCATE THE PUBLIC CONCERNING THEIR RIGHTS, EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, AND TO PARTICIPATE IN EFFORTS WITH THEIR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ASSURE EVERY PERSON THEIR RIGHT TO FAIR HOUSING.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON IS HONORED TO JOIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ACROSS AMERICA IN CELEBRATING THE RICH DIVERSITY OF OUR PEOPLE, AND THE RIGHT OF ALL CITIZENS TO LIVE WHERE THEY CHOOSE WITHOUT FEAR OF DISCRIMINATION.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THE CITY OF ANGLETON DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL AS THE MONTH TO CELEBRATE, HONOR ALL EFFORTS WHICH GUARANTEE THE RIGHTS TO LIVE FREE OF DISCRIMINATORY HOUSING PRACTICES AND PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL AS FAIR HOUSING MONTH AND URGE ALL LOCAL OFFICIALS AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS TO JOIN ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO FURTHER FAIR HOUSING OBJECTIVES, PROCLAIM THIS 25TH DAY OF MARCH 2025.
>> MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR NOVEMBER 14TH, DECEMBER 10TH, 2024, AND JANUARY 14TH, 2025.ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CITY OF RICHWOOD ANIMAL SERVICES RENEWAL CONTRACT.
ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO THE LIFT STATION NUMBER 8, SANITARY SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM REHABILITATION PROJECT. COUNCIL.
>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE POSED, SAME SIGN.
MOTION CARRIES. REGULAR AGENDA.
[5. Presentations by Ardurra/Gunda, Freese & Nichols, and Kimley-Horn on Request for Proposal (RFP) 2025-03 Professional Services for the General Land Office (GLO) Recovery-Mitigation (CDBG-MIT) Resilient Communities Program (RCP) Grant. ]
ITEM NUMBER 5, PRESENTATIONS BY [NOISE] FREESE & NICHOLS AND KIMLEY HORN ON REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 2025-03 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE JOURNAL LAND OFFICE, RECOVERY MITIGATION RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM GRANT. ALL YOURS.>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
THIS IS ONE ITEM THAT YOU'VE BEEN AWARE OF, THE CITY RECEIVING THE RESILIENT COMMUNITY GRANT BY THE GLO, IN WHICH WE HAVE PROCURED THE RFP FOR THE STUDY, AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED IN JUNE OF 2024.
AS YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED THE AWARD ALREADY.
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THERE IS NO MATCH FOR THE GRANT.I HAVE OTHER INFORMATION THAT I'LL PRESENT LATER REGARDING AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HOW WE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE GRANT WILL EXPIRE IN 2027, SO THAT GIVES US ABOUT 2.5 YEARS TO COMPLETE THE GRANT.
THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT WOULD BE THE TOP 3 SCORE RESPONDENTS, AND THEY ARE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE STANDING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT NAME, WE WERE FORMERLY GUNDA.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF THROUGH VARIOUS THINGS IN PLANNING AND CODE UPDATES, SIGN ORDINANCES, AND DEVELOPMENT HANDBOOK, VARIOUS THINGS THROUGH THE YEAR.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FRONT PAGE OF OUR PROPOSAL.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE AWARD OF THE GRANT.
THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG MOVE. YOU GOT THAT.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE AREAS THAT WE PLAN TO INSIST WITH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, ZONING ORDINANCE, GRANT ADMINISTRATION, AND BUILDING CODES.
MOVING ON TO THIS NEXT ONE, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A SHORT TIME FRAME HERE TO DAZZLE YOU WITH OUR EXPERTISE.
TO ME, THIS IS THE KEY. THIS IS WHERE WE SHINE.
MYSELF, I'M A FORMER CITY MANAGER.
I WAS A CITY MANAGER IN EL CAMPO.
I WAS ALSO A FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR 16 YEARS BETWEEN THE CITIES OF EL CAMPO, ROSENBERG, AND WHARTON, SO HAVE LIVED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE, DEALING WITH THE DISASTERS, DEALING WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, DEALING WITH ALL OF THE DAY TO DAY THINGS THAT KEEP YOU BUSY AND MAKE IT HARD TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS PLAN INTO PLACE.
AS WELL AS LATA KRISHNARAO, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.
SHE SERVED FOR MANY YEARS IN THE CITY OF PEARLAND AS THEIR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, SAW THAT SIZABLE GROWTH FROM 40,000-120,000 THOUSAND DURING HER TIME THERE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE WALKED IN YOUR SHOES.
WE HAVE BEEN MAKING PRESENTATIONS, WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS, AND HAVING THINGS THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT ONCE WE GOT DONE.
HE IS OUR PARTNER IN CHARGE, AND THIS IS THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THINGS.
ARDURRA IS AN ENGINEERING FIRM.
WE DO HAVE PLANNING SERVICES UNDER THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE LATA AND I WORK CLOSELY WITH OTHER STAFF, THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LARGER CORPORATION OF ARDURRA.
YOU CAN SEE, WE TRIED TO JUST HAVE SOME BULLET POINTS THERE, 100 PLUS YEARS OF MUNICIPAL STAFF.
WE CERTAINLY FEEL LIKE THAT AGAIN, IS A KEY TO OUR SUCCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ONLY THE EXPERTISE AND THE EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE THE PASSION.
WE HAVE WORKED FOR THOSE SMALL CITIES, WE KNOW WHAT IT TAKES, WE KNOW THE STAFF IS TAXED, WE KNOW THAT WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC CAN BE A CHALLENGE.
ALL OF THOSE PIECES WE CAN HELP COME TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE TO DO.
WE ALSO HAVE HAD RECENT PLANNING EXPERIENCE IN ANGLETON, WORKING WITH THE BRAZORIA COUNTY HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, AS WELL AS WITH MANY OTHER CITIES.
I THINK JUST THE EXPERTISE IN THE CDBG WORLD, WE'VE GOTTEN VERY CLOSE WITH THE GLO, WITH THE STAFF.
THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE A KEY BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RELATIONSHIPS, SOMETIMES THERE'S A LOT OF ROADBLOCKS BETWEEN CITIES BETWEEN THE AGENCIES, AND WE'VE LEARNED TO NAVIGATE THOSE VERY WELL.
THE LAST THING I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS THE FINAL PAGE OF OUR POWERPOINT.
WELL, BEFORE WE LEAVE, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU.
THE PICTURE THAT WAS THERE, THAT IS ACTUALLY CHRIS CANONICO'S FRONT YARD.
JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT WE HAVE ALSO LIVED THROUGH FLOOD FLOODING EVENTS. THERE YOU GO.
SOMETHING YOU CAN RELATE TO. THAT IS CHRIS.
THERE ARE A LIST OF THEM HERE.
I KNOW CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM.
THOSE THAT READ THROUGH THE PROPOSAL, AGAIN, THANK YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S TEDIOUS.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE FORMIDABLE COMPETITION HERE, AND IT ALL COMES DOWN TO, WHAT IS THE BEST DECISION FOR YOU? THE LONG RANGE PLANNING.
WE'VE WORKED WITH SIMILAR SIZED CITIES ALSO SMALLER AND LARGER, BUT THROUGHOUT THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA.
WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IT TAKES FROM A STANDPOINT OF RESILIENCY AND WHAT THE GLO IS LOOKING FOR IN THIS PROCESS AND WHAT THE CITY OF ANGLETON SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN THIS PROCESS.
TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH A PLAN THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE.
WE DON'T BELIEVE IN PLANS THAT GO ON A SHELF.
WE BELIEVE IN LIVE EXECUTABLE PLANS, AND WE'RE THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS AND AFTER THE PROCESS.
THE ZONING DEVELOPMENT CODES, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE THERE THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.
AGAIN, WE'VE DONE RECENT WORK WITH THE CITY HERE.
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CERTAINLY OTIS HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH.WE'VE NAVIGATED THAT PROCESS AND WORKED THROUGH PRESENTATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES WITH THAT PROCESS.
GRANTS, WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN WORKING THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS.
I BELIEVE AT THAT POINT, I'M CLOSE TO MY FIVE MINUTES, SO I WILL LEAVE IT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR DECISION.
>> THANK YOU. MS. NICHOLS THAT'S WHY I LOVE TECHNOLOGY.
>> THIS BEING A SIGN THAT I DON'T WANT TO EAT INTO THE FIVE MINUTES.
>> THIS HAPPENED TO ME LAST WEEK TOO.
I COULDN'T GET THE PRESENTATION UP. HAD TO WAIT.
>> DON'T WORRY, THE CLOCK WON'T START.
>> START PLAYING THE JEOPARDY MUSIC PRETTY SOON.
[BACKGROUND] AN OPTION IS THERE ARE PACKETS IN FRONT OF US.
THEY WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT.
>> WE ALL HAVE IT FOR JUST IN CASE.
>> GOOD EVENING TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEFLY PRESENT TO YOU ALL TODAY.
I AM A PRINCIPAL AND VICE PRESIDENT, AN URBAN PLANNER AT FREESE & NICHOLS IN OUR PEARLAND OFFICE.
IN MY ALMOST 18 YEARS AT THE FIRM, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON AND LEAD A VARIETY OF COMPREHENSIVE DOWNTOWN AND SMALL AREA PLANS.
FREESE & NICHOLS HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ON AT LEAST A DOZEN PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE LUVILL CENTER STUDY THAT FOCUSED ON YOUR DOWNTOWN AND CONNECTING YOUR COMMUNITY TO THIS SPECIAL PLACE.
I'M GOING TO LET RYAN TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR PROJECT EXPERIENCE AND SIMILAR PROJECTS.
>> FOUR MINUTES. ROME WAS BUILT IN LESS TIME.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS PROJECT FITS SQUARELY WITHIN OUR CORE STRENGTHS.
RESILIENCE PLANNING, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AND IMPLEMENTATION FOCUSED PLANNING FOR TEXAS COMMUNITIES.
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WE'RE AN AWARD WINNING URBAN PLANNING FIRM WITH VAST RESILIENCE EXPERIENCE.OUR URBAN PLANNING AND DESIGN GROUP HAS RECEIVED OVER 35 PLANNING AWARDS IN RECENT YEARS, INCLUDING AWARDS FROM APA TEXAS AND OTHER NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.
SHAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER, WE'RE A TEXAS BASED FIRM, AND WE HAVE LOCAL EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE FROM OUR PEARLAND OFFICE AND OUR HOUSTON OFFICE.
WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO PRACTICAL IMPLEMENTATION.
WE DO WHAT WE CAN AND WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO BALANCE AMBITION AND APPLICABILITY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE PROVIDE TO YOU IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE AND MARCH FORWARD THROUGH YOUR CITY SERVICES AND BUILDING STRONG COMMUNITIES HERE IN ANGLETON.
OUR TEAM IS STRUCTURED TO SUCCEED.
WE HAVE DEEP EXPERIENCE IN FEDERALLY FUNDED PLANNING EFFORTS, RESILIENT GROWTH IN TRANSLATING COMMUNITY VISIONS INTO ACTIONABLE STRATEGIES.
OUR TEAM HAS LED MORE THAN 200 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ACROSS TEXAS.
>> OUR TEAM HAS LED MORE THAN 200 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ACROSS TEXAS, INTEGRATING LAND USE, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND HAZARD MITIGATION COMPONENTS.
WE HAVE DEEP EXPERIENCE WITH THE GLO AS WELL AS COMMUNITY DISASTER AND CDBG-MIT PROGRAMS. WE OFFER 50 PLUS TOOLS OF INCLUSIVE, HIGH IMPACT OUTREACH, BOTH ONLINE AND IN PERSON, AND OUR IN HOUSE EXPERTS ADDRESS DRAINAGE, UTILITY, MOBILITY, SUSTAINABILITY IN WAYS THAT SUPPORT LONG TERM COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.
THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH GRANT WORKS, WE'VE SUPPORTED CLIENTS IN SECURING AND MANAGING OVER $8,000,000,000 IN FEDERAL FUNDS, INCLUDING CDBG-MIT AND FEMA PROGRAMS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THREE PROGRAMS IN EL CAMPO AND HARLINGEN AND PALMVIEW, UTILIZING THESE DOLLARS WORKING WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THIS PROGRAM.
WE HAVE EXPERIENCE EXECUTING THIS TYPE OF WORK WITH THESE TYPES OF FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU A PRODUCT THAT IS IMPLEMENTABLE, AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THAT IT SATISFIES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT.
WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN DOING THAT FOR COMMUNITIES ACROSS TEXAS.
AS SHAD MENTIONED, WE UNDERSTAND ANGLETON'S VALUES, ITS CHALLENGES, AND ITS GOALS.
WE BRING GLO ALIGNED EXPERIENCE AND UNMATCHED PLANNING DEPTH.
OUR PLANS GET BUILT, OUR PLANS ARE FUNDED, AND OUR PLANS ARE REGULATORILY COMPLIANT.
THESE ARE REAL WORLD PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE YOU BE ABLE TO EXECUTE LONG INTO THE FUTURE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR DECISION AND HELPING YOU BUILD A STRONGER ANGLETON. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I WAS JUST THINKING WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER OUR WORK FOR MY SPONSORS.
>> NOBODY WANTS TO THAT. YEAH. FAIR.
MICHELLE, THIS SHOULDN'T COUNT TO OUR TIME.
>> SHOULDN'T COUNT TO OUR TIME.
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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.
I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL, AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, MR. SPRIGGS AND ANGLETON RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.
WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL PROJECT FOR THE CITY, ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN THE LAST 22 YEARS SO VERY IMPORTANT TO SET THE STAGE FOR ANGLETON OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS OR SO.
I'M PARTNERED WITH CHRISTINA MALLOCH HERE TONIGHT.
KIMLEY-HORN IS A NATIONAL INTERDISCIPLINARY CONSULTING FIRM THAT HAS A LOT OF OFFICES HERE IN TEXAS AND A FEW IN THE HOUSTON AREA AND A LOT OF THE PRODUCTION OF THIS PROJECT WILL BE CONDUCTED OUT OF OUR TEXAS BASED OFFICES.
HOWEVER, WE WON'T HESITATE TO BRING IN OUR DEEP BENCH OF NATIONAL EXPERTS TO TACKLE THE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO ANGLETON FOR THIS PROCESS.
SLIDE, PLEASE. JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT OF OUR RELEVANT PROJECT EXPERIENCE.
IN TERMS OF THE ADMINISTRATION SERVICES, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES OR RCP PROGRAM GRANT.
OUR ALTERNATIVE FUNDING PRACTICE LEADERS ARE AT THE CUTTING EDGE AND LEADING PROFESSIONALS IN THE SPACE OF THE RCP GRANT.
WE'VE HELPED SIX COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR RCP FUNDING APPLICATIONS AND ACQUIRING FUNDING ON A 100% OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT ARE BEING DONE THROUGH THIS RCP PROCESS.
WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND WORKING THROUGH THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND WORKING THROUGH, MAKE SURE THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK OF THOSE PROCESSES ARE COMPLIANT AND SUCCESSFUL ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS.
MOVING ON TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANS ARE COMMUNITY LED.
A LOT OF HOW WE DO THAT IS THROUGH OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.
WE REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON OUR PHILOSOPHY OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY BRINGING ENGAGEMENT WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE SO NOT ONLY THROUGH PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES WHERE WE ASK THE PUBLIC TO COME TO US, WE LIKE TO DO A LOT OF POP UP EVENTS AS WELL AND WELL ATTENDED EVENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, MARKET DAYS THAT ARE HERE OR MAYBE AT DIRTY SOUTH OR FREEDOM FESTIVAL OR MAYBE AT THE BRAZORIA COUNTY RODEO AND FESTIVAL THAT HAPPENS IN THE FALL.
THOSE MAY BE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE TRY TO LEVERAGE AS WE BRING IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EXPERIENCE FOR ALL.
WE TRY TO HAVE THAT CONSENSUS BUILDING IN WHICH WE FOCUS ON THE VISIONING AND THE GOAL SETTING FOR THE PROCESS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
WE UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO BUILD A CONSENSUS AND A PLAN THAT IS REALLY COMMUNITY LED AND BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP.
OF COURSE, WE ALSO LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A BIG EMPHASIS ON WITHIN THE RFP THAT YOU GUYS ISSUED.
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WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING CODES, WE UNDERGO A VERY DEEP CODE ANALYSIS TO BEGIN OUR PROCESS.WE BUILD ON THAT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AS WELL TOGETHER WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PORTION, AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
WE MAKE SURE TO MODERNIZE THAT AND TIE THAT BACK TOGETHER TO A LOT OF THE TENETS AND THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, ESSENTIALLY, AND ON WHICH THE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM GRANT WAS BUILT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OF COURSE, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE HAD A LOT OF THE PLANNING PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN TEXAS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO, BUT WANTED TO FOCUS ON THREE KEY ONES HERE THAT WE THINK ARE VERY RELEVANT TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
FIRST OF ALL, SULPHUR SPRINGS, THIS IS A RCP FUNDED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE ASSISTED WITH THAT APPLICATION.
WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE GLO TO ENSURE THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK OF THE PROCESS WAS COMPLIANT.
MUCH LIKE ANGLETON, SULPHUR SPRINGS IS THE COUNTY SEAT OF HOPKINS COUNTY SO VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
THEY ALSO EXPERIENCED A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE FROM A GROWING REGION MUCH LIKE YOU GUYS ARE EXPERIENCING HERE SO THAT'S ONE PROJECT EXAMPLE.
MOVING ON TO CRANDALL, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS NOT FUNDED THROUGH RCP, BUT WE ENSURED THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK OF THAT PROCESS WAS COMPLIANT WITH THE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM GRANT BECAUSE AFTER WE ADOPTED THE PLAN, WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE CITY TO ACQUIRE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM FUNDS IN ORDER TO UPDATE THEIR BUILDING CODES PROCESS IN WHICH WE'RE DOING EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
THEN FINALLY, THE CITY OF AZLE.
MUCH LIKE ANGLETON, THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG DOWNTOWN.
WE DID AN EXTENSIVE MARKET ANALYSIS IN WHICH WE IDENTIFIED WAYS TO IMPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE FOCUS ON HOUSING.
WITH AN AGING HOUSING STOCK, WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING PRODUCT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN DEMAND OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS, THE TIMELINE OF THE PLAN.
JUST TO FINISH OFF, KIMLEY-HORN IS A FIRM THAT BELIEVES IN ACTIONABLE PLANS THAT ARE FUNDED AND ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR IMPLEMENTATION AND I PERSONALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE ANGLETON IS VERY SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE WORKED IN AND SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS, AND THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT.
>> THAT BEING SAID, I THINK EVERYONE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, STICKING TO THE TIME.
IN THE NEXT ITEM, ONCE YOU INTRODUCE THAT, WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE SCORING AND THE PROCESS AND HOW WE WOULD HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD IF THAT'S OKAY.
UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS OF ME, I THINK THE MEAT OF IT WOULD BE IN THE NEXT ITEM.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF
[6. Discussion and possible action to award Request for Proposal (RFP) 2025-03 Professional Services for the General Land Office (GLO) Recovery-Mitigation (CDBG-MIT) Resilient Communities Program (RCP) Grant. ]
POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL RFP 2025-03 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, GLO, RECOVERY MITIGATION, CDBG-MIT, RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM, RCP GRANT.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO REPORT WE DID HAVE FIVE RESPONDENTS.
WE DID PROCURE THIS PREVIOUSLY AND TRIED TO SOLICIT FOR SOME PLANNING ENTITIES TO DO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE RESPONDENTS IN THE PAST WERE MOSTLY GRANT WRITERS AND NOT A LOT OF WORK WITHIN THE PLANNING REALM.
WITH THIS PARTICULAR GLO AWARDING WHICH WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET THIS PROCESS UNDERWAY SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON OUR TIMELINESS WITH THE GLO, SO OUR GOAL TONIGHT WOULD BE, IF YOU WOULD GUIDE US IN TERMS OF SELECTING THE TOP CANDIDATE.
WE DID HAVE TWO COUNCILMEN THAT SERVED ON THE REVIEW COMMITTEE, ALONG WITH THREE OTHER STAFF PERSONS, ONE BEING THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ASSISTANT DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DIRECTOR AS WELL AS MARTHA IN COMMUNICATIONS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHO WAS REALLY ESSENTIAL IN HELPING US TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THE RFPS.
I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE SCORING THAT YOU HAVE HERE IS ACTUALLY IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER IN TERMS OF THE SCORING THE WAY IT ENDED UP BEING.
TWO REPLACES THREE IN TERMS OF THE RANKING SO THAT BOTTOM ROW NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED, WHERE YOU REPLACE TWO OUT WITH THREE AND THEN YOU HAVE HEARD THOSE TOP THREE CANDIDATES TONIGHT.
THE OTHER ITEM I HAVE UNDER THE SUMMARY WOULD COVER NEXT STEPS, WHICH WOULD BE YOU GIVING US DIRECTION ON AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WE COULD CALL IT THE CPAC COMMITTEE.
THERE IS SOME IN YOUR LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THEY WOULD BE YOUR MIDDLE GROUND COMMITTEE,
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COULD BE CONSISTENT OF A CITY COUNCIL PERSON OR TWO.THEN WE HAVE THE LIST OF ALL OF YOUR VARIOUS INCLUDED ON THE SIDE WHERE IT RELATES TO THE HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE MISSOURI COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALLIANCE, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, OUR PLANNING BOARDS, OR ANY OTHER BOARDS THAT YOU WOULD SEE FIT TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT WOULD MEET ON A ROUTINE BASIS, AND WE WOULD COME UP WITH THAT INTERVAL.
OUR HOPES WOULD BE TO BRING A CONTRACT BACK TO YOU NEGOTIATED WITH FINAL APPROVAL AND THEN IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE FOR THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, COME BACK WITH THAT.
WE DO HAVE A PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE GLO AND WHICH WE WOULD PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO YOU THAT WOULD SHOW YOU WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 18 MONTHS WE WOULD GUESS THE STUDY MAY TAKE.
THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TONIGHT IS YOUR SELECTION OF THE TOP CANDIDATE OF YOUR CHOICE AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THOSE ITEMS BACK TO YOU IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AND THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE CPAC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
>> I'LL START AND SAY THAT FROM THE GREAT GROUP OF APPLICANTS, IT'S FUNNY THAT THE TOP THREE ARE ONLY SEPARATED BY SIX POINTS.
THE TOP THREE, WE CAN'T GO WRONG EITHER WAY.
I PERSONALLY FELT THAT, THEY WERE ALL VERY WELL DONE, GREAT PRESENTATIONS.
I GAVE POINTS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, I THINK THAN SOME, BUT MY HIGHEST WAS KIMLEY-HORN, ONLY BECAUSE ONE, WORKING WITH THEM IN THE PAST ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THEY WERE, I THINK, SECOND ON THE LAST TIME WE WERE UP, AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.
FRISON NICHOLS, OF COURSE, HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK FOR US IN THE PAST.
SHAD, YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THE LITTLEMORE CENTERS STUDY, SO I ENJOYED THAT.
THEN ADORA, WE WORKED WITH YOU AS WELL SO YOU'LL HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD WITH US TOO ON ALL THE, WAS IT THE FEES SCHEDULE?
>> I THINK THIS COUNCIL CAN'T GO WRONG WITH ANY OF THE THREE, HONESTLY. CHRISTIENE, YOU WANT TO ADD?
>> IT WAS DEFINITELY A VERY TOUGH DECISION AND TO EVEN OUT THE SCORES TO REALLY STUDY EACH PACKET.
LIKE MAYOR SAID, CAN'T GO WRONG WITH ANY OF THE TOP THREE AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT ALL OF YOU ALL PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT AND GIVEN US GREAT OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.
>> MR. MAYOR, I HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS ITEM, I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH AT LEAST ONE OF THESE FIRMS. I DON'T FEEL IT WOULD BE FAIR FOR ME TO VOTE.
>> FAIR ENOUGH. COUNCILMAN SARTIN, ANY QUESTIONS. ANYTHING?
>> WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN SOMEBODY.
THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, WE WANT TO ESTABLISH THIS FIRST, THEN COME BACK WITH THAT BECAUSE I'D RATHER THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> YES, WE WANT TO START ADVERTISING AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO AT LEAST APPLY THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A PROCESS OF APPOINTING THAT COMMITTEE LATER.
BUT WE WANT TO AT LEAST BEGIN THAT PROCESS OF NUMBER ONE, LOOK AT THE LIST AND MAKE SURE WE'VE COVERED EVERY BOARD COMMITTEE ENTITY OUT THERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE.
IF YOU NEED MORE TIME ON THAT, WE COULD SCHEDULE THAT IN A LATER MEETING.
>> COUNCIL, TONIGHT, WE JUST NEED ACTION ON AWARD OF THE CONTRACT.
>> MAYBE SOMEONE CAN AUTHORIZE THE BOARD ESTABLISHMENT SO WE CAN ADVERTISE IT AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO PUT TOGETHER.
>> MAKE THAT IN A MOTION WHOEVER DECIDES TO DO THAT.
>> I'VE ALSO LAID OUT THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE SUMMARY AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING AS WELL.
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>> I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU'LL HAVE ANY ACTIVE OPEN PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON AT THIS CURRENT TIME?
>> IT'S NOT REALLY ACTIVE, BUT WE JUST COMPLETED THE FEE STUDY.
>> THEN PREVIOUS TO THIS, WE HAD DONE YOUR CODE DIAGNOSTICS.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ACTIVE RIGHT NOW.
>> FREESE AND NICHOLS AS THE WATER DEPARTMENT BOARD.
>> YOU HAVE SOMETHING ACTIVE. KEELING, NOTHING?
>> NOTHING ACTIVE AT THIS TIME.
OUR PREVIOUS WORK WITH YOU GUYS WAS THE PARK STANDARDS DOCUMENT THAT WE MOVED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN.
>> IS THE ADA STILL GOING ON OR IS THAT DONE?
>> I GUESS AN APPROPRIATE MOTION WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL APPROVAL, I THINK SO.
>> WE ALREADY HAVE AN AMOUNT IS $270,000 IS THE GRANT MAXIMUM.
>> WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO GO BY THE CHART. YOU'LL DO GO THROUGH ALL THIS.
IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY, THEN THAT'S ADURA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ADURA.
THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE WITH I GUESS ADURA, AND THEN TO CREATE THE BOARD.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN FOR APPROVAL FOR BOARD AND ADURA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THREE OF YOU.
GREAT TEAMS, AND I HOPE WE CAN KEEP FINDING WORK FOR EACH OF YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE THAT HELPS THE CITIZENS.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> YOU GUYS ALL CAME IN REALLY, REALLY GOOD AND YOU'RE PROFESSIONALS AND IT SHOWS AND I'VE WATCHED YOU ALL FOR A WHILE BEHIND THIS BEHIND THIS DESK, AND AS I SAID, WE'D WE'D BE LUCKY TO HAVE ANY OF YOU ALL GOING BY THE DATA THAT WE HAVE HERE.
>> THANK YOU. CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ANY ABSTENTIONS?
>> ONE ABSTAINED. THANK YOU ALL.
[7. Update and discussion on the agreement process with Brazoria County for street overlays. ]
THE AGREEMENT PROCESS WITH MISSOURI COUNTY FOR STREET OVERLAYS.IS IT ME OR YOU WANT TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO THE MAP?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE INVITED MR. HANKS, COUNTY ENGINEER, HERE TO JUST DISCUSS THE OVERLAY PROCESS, HOW STREETS ARE SELECTED, AND THE REQUIREMENTS IT TAKES A STREET TO QUALIFY AS A PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
I DO THINK WE'VE MODIFIED OUR POLICY ON OUR INTERLOCAL WORK FOR CITIES, AND I DO THINK IN DOING SO, A LITTLE BIT OF MISUNDERSTANDING CREPT IN AND A GOOD BIT OF THAT I'LL TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP FROM OUR SIDE ON AS WE DIDN'T DO A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO COME HERE AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME SAYING THAT MAYOR AND I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ONE DAY ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK WE REALIZED IT WAS PROBABLY GOOD TO COME IN HERE AND GO THROUGH OUR STREET PROGRAM, OUR INTERLOCAL WORK.
WHERE OUR POLICY IS RIGHT NOW IS, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS, BUT TWO MILES OF OVERLAYS FOR CITIES.
IT'S SO EASY JUST TO GO TWO MILES OF OVERLAYS, BUT THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE INTRICACIES WITH THAT.
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WE'LL DO TWO MILES OF OVERLAYS.THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT SAID NO MILLING, AND I BELIEVE THAT CAME FROM US.
WE DON'T HAVE A MILLING MACHINE, SO WE CAN'T MILL.
BUT WE REGULARLY WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR, I THINK IT'S AAA THAT COMES IN AND MILLS.
WE CAN COORDINATE THAT, YOU ALL CAN COORDINATE THAT, YOU ALL WILL END UP PAYING FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE A CAPABILITY OF DOING OURSELVES.
BUT YES, AND IT'S STILL TWO MILES.
YOU CAN HAVE THE CONTRACTOR COME IN AND MILL, AND AS LONG AS WE'RE COORDINATING WHERE WE'RE COMING BACK AFTER THEM AND OVERLAYING AFTER THE MILLING, IT'S STILL TWO MILES.
SOMEBODY SAID, HEY, IF WE DO MILLING, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT ONLY ONE MILE, AND THE MILLING DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO WE'RE STILL FINE KEEPING IT TO TWO MILES.
THE ONLY CAVEAT I'LL THROW OUT ON THIS, AND THIS WE'VE SEEN IN A NUMBER OF CITIES, IS THE STREET THAT'S GETTING MILLED, SO YOU'RE TAKING A COUPLE OF INCHES OFF THE TOP OF IT, DOESN'T HAVE THE STRUCTURE THERE.
WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
IF WE ARE GOING TO MILL AND OVERLAY, MAYBE DOING A BIT OF QUARRYING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STRUCTURES UNDERNEATH THAT ROAD WOULD BE POSITIVE OR BE THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE.
THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAD A LOT OF CITIES THAT, IN FACT, ONE, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANGLETON.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER CITY, WE WON'T USE THEIR NAME.
WE HAD A CITY TURNING 22 LOCATIONS TO US.
THERE WERE TWO MILES, BUT SOMEHOW GOT 22 LOCATIONS TO ADD UP TO TWO MILES.
WHEN YOU'RE PICKING UP EQUIPMENT, MOVING IT FROM ONE SPOT TO THE NEXT, WE SPENT MORE TIME MOBILIZING AND DEMOBILIZING EQUIPMENT THAN WE DID DOING STREET WORK.
WE DECIDE, LOOK, LET'S LOOK AT TWO MILES OVER FOUR LOCATIONS.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN FOUR STREETS, AND THAT WAS ANOTHER MISUNDERSTANDING WE HAD WITH A NUMBER OF CITIES IS, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO FOUR STREETS.
BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT REMOBILIZING THAT EQUIPMENT, I'D LIKE TO SAY FOUR LOCATIONS.
IF YOU GOT TWO STREETS THAT TURN A CORNER, THAT'S ONE LOCATION IF THEY ADD UP.
LET'S GO TO TWO MILES OVERLAYS, FOUR LOCATIONS.
YES, WE'LL MILL, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THE STRUCTURE IS THERE TO MILL AND DO THE RIGHT JOB.
THEN THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, BECAUSE WE OFFER THIS NOT TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS THE THING, BUT WE'LL SAY THIS THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND JUST OVERLAY A STREET.
THE PROBLEM IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE ASPHALT SURFACE BECAUSE THEN WE ALL LOOK BAD.
WE COME IN, WE OVERLAY IT, AND THE ROAD JUST STARTS FALLING APART WITHIN THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS AND BECAUSE REALLY THE TRUTH IS THAT THE BASE WAS THE ISSUE.
THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU ALL WASTING MONEY, THE CITIZENS AREN'T HAPPY, AND THAT'S ALL OUR FAULT.
WHAT WE'LL STILL SAY IS TWO MILES OF OVERLAYS, BUT IF YOU ALL WOULD RATHER A MILE OF REBUILDS, AND WHAT I'M SAYING, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MILL AND AN OVERLAY, AND A RECLAMATION AND AN OVERLAY, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'LL COME IN THERE WITH OUR RECLAIMER.
YOU BASICALLY RECLAIM THAT STREET, SHOOT A HOLE IN IT WHICH STABILIZES THAT BASE, AND THEN OVERLAY THE TOP OF THAT ULTIMATELY, BUT THAT TAKES A LOT LONGER.
US SAYING WE'LL DO ONE MILE OF THAT OVER TWO MILES OF OVERLAY, IT'S STILL A LOT MORE TIME WITH US BEING HERE, MEANING THAT THAT'S A LOT OF WORK BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY TAKES ABOUT 3-4 TIMES THE LENGTH OF TIME TO REBUILD A ROAD THAT IT DID JUST TO SLAP SOME ASPHALT ON THE TOP.
THAT'S OUR INTER LOCAL PROJECTS, AND THE REASON WHY WE MADE SOME OF THE CHANGES, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS EATING US UP A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAD SOME CITIES THAT WOULD WANT US TO DO TWO MILES OF REBUILD, BUT THAT WAS KILLING US AS FAR AS TIME, AND, OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
BUT THAT'S THE REAL CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE, IS JUST TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MUCH WE'RE MOBILIZING AND TRYING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO REBUILDS INSTEAD OF OVERLAYS, SHRINK THAT AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN ANY ONE GIVEN YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> HECTOR, IN THE PAST, WHAT MATT'S SAYING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THIS, IS ON THE MILLING, WE WERE ALREADY DOING THE MILLING ANYWAYS.
SO THAT COST WAS ALREADY BEING INCURRED BY US IN THE PAST.
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>> EITHER US OR THE COUNTY WAS GOING THROUGH AND ARRANGING THEM TO COME IN?
>> YES, THE COUNTY HAS IN THE PAST.
YEAH, THEY'D COORDINATE WITH AAA AND GET THE MILLING MACHINE ON SCHEDULE SO THAT WAY THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEM, THEY CAN SCHEDULE IT ON THEIR TIME AND THE TIME THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE STREETS.
WE'VE ALWAYS WORKED WITH, AND IT'S NOT JUST ANGLETON, ANY CITY.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MILL MACHINE, SO I THINK IT'S AAA THAT WE USE MOST OF THE TIME.
YOU ALL GET THE PO, WE COORDINATE WITH THEM.
IT DOESN'T SLOW US DOWN AS LONG AS THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
>> IN THAT CASE, WE CAN STILL MILL, AND WE CAN STILL DO EVERYTHING LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
>> WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION OF THE RECLAMATION OPTION FOR A MILE, WHICH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT WAS SOUTH WALKER.
>> WALKER IS ONE OF THOSE ROADS THAT IT WAS YOU'D ALMOST SAY IT WAS A JOINT PROJECT.
THERE WAS MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED IN THAT.
THAT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN OVERLAY IS NOT THE RIGHT TREATMENT FOR THAT ROAD.
>> THERE'S BASE FAILURE ALL ALONG THAT ROAD.
I COULD GO SLAP ASPHALT ON TOP OF IT.
WE WERE JUST HAPPY TO YELL AT THAT.
THAT WAS THE FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION AND LAYOUT.
>> FOUR LOCATIONS IS A BIG CHANGE FOR US, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.
FOR EXAMPLE, GIFFORD LANE CAN'T BE DONE, IN THE CURRENT SENSE, BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING CONTIGUOUS TO ONE LITTLE AREA.
WE HAD TO GO DOWN SOUTH AND DO ONE ROAD. WELL, NOW WE CAN.
THAT ONE ROAD CAN BE DONE, AND THEN IN TOWN, WE CAN DO A COUPLE OF THEM OVER HERE.
MATT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON REGARDS TO WHO'S DOING THE WORK.
WHY IS IT THAT THIS CITY RELIES ONLY ON PRECINCT 2 FOR THE WORK? WE HAVE ONE HERE, AND WE HAVE FOUR HERE.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND IT'S ACTUALLY ONE I'VE GOTTEN ASKED BY OTHER CITIES AS WELL BECAUSE NOT WITH PRECINCT 2, BUT THE PRECINCT THEY'RE WORKING IN.
WE ACTUALLY RECENTLY ADJUSTED OUR SERVICE CENTER LINES, AND WHEN I SAY RECENTLY, LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, BUT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT WAS 1998, I THINK.
SO A YEAR AND A HALF WAS RECENT.
BUT WE RECENTLY READJUSTED OUR SERVICE CENTER LINES BECAUSE IT'S REALLY TRYING TO KEEP IN BALANCE HOW MUCH EACH SERVICE CENTER HAS AND THE WAY THE GROWTH HAS HAPPENED, AND IT REALLY GOT OUR SERVICE CENTERS A LITTLE UNBALANCED.
WE HAVE SHIFTED SOME THINGS AROUND AND WE'VE GOTTEN OUR SERVICE CENTERS, AND WE DON'T THINK OF PRECINCTS BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE ONE AND YOU DO HAVE FOUR, AND YOU DO HAVE TWO RIGHT HERE AT ANGLETON, BUT NOT THE SERVICE CENTERS.
THE SOUTH SERVICE CENTER COMES UP JUST ABOUT TO 220, THE WEST SERVICE CENTER BEFORE GOT OUT TO 521 BUT DIDN'T COME THIS WAY ANY FURTHER DOWN 35.
WE RECENTLY MADE THAT CHANGE TO BRING THE WEST SERVICE CENTER ALL THE WAY UP TO 288 OUT AT 35.
THE WEST SERVICE CENTER IS NOW GOT MUCH CLOSER TO ANGLETON, SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TO BASICALLY HAVE THAT SERVICE CENTER PERFORM THIS WORK.
THE REASON WHY I BRING UP ADJUSTING THE SERVICE CENTER ON THIS IS BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG EXERCISE TO TRY TO EQUALIZE THE WORK BETWEEN EACH SERVICE CENTER, AND THAT INCLUDES THE CITY WORK, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS LOOK AT IT AND SAY, IF TWO HANDLES ANGLETON AND FOUR HANDLES WEST COLUMBIA AND BALANCE IT OUT.
NOT EVERY CITY ASKED FOR TWO MILES, SO WE WENT THROUGH THE LAST 10 YEARS OF WHAT EVERY CITY LOOKED AT, THERE'S NO SET RULE THAT SAYS THE CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER HAS TO HANDLE ANGLETON.
JUST IF I START ASSIGNING IT TO ANOTHER SERVICE CENTER, I'VE GOT TO DO A LITTLE HORSE STRAIN BETWEEN THE SERVICE CENTERS BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW WHERE THE CITIES AND REGULARLY ASKED FOR WORK.
I NEED TO FIND ANOTHER CITY TO TRADE.
LIKE IF I ASK THE WEST SERVICE CENTER TO COME OVER AND DO THESE ROADS, I WOULD HAVE TO SEE IF THE CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER CAN TAKE A CITY FROM THEM.
THAT'S JUST TO TAKE A LITTLE COORDINATION ON MY PART.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHETHER THAT'S DOABLE OR NOT UNTIL I LOOK AT IT.
>> THEN LAST QUESTION WHILE WE'RE ALL HERE.
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE SO WHEN WE MAKE OUR SUBMITTAL TO GET IT DONE IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR?
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OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDS AT SEPTEMBER 30TH.WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT TO YOU BY?
>> I THINK WE SENT THAT LETTER OUT, BUT I THINK WE USUALLY ASK FOR IT RIGHT AROUND THE TURN OF THE YEAR, I THINK.
>> IF YOU DO THAT, WE TRY TO GET IT DONE IN THAT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL.
LET'S SAY YOUR BUDGET TAKES OVER IN OCTOBER.
IF SOMETIME BETWEEN OCTOBER AND THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU ALL GET US WHAT ROAD YOU'LL WANT DONE AND WE GET THAT INTERLOCAL APPROVED.
OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT DONE BY THE END OF THAT FISCAL YEAR, SO IN THE NEXT NINE MONTHS.
THAT'S SCHEDULING ON WHEN WE COULD GET HERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S OUR GOAL.
WE WANT TO START THE SERIES OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF CITIES, AND I ACTUALLY CAN'T REMEMBER IF ANGLETON WAS ONE OF THESE OR NOT, BUT I KNOW WE CAUGHT SOME HEAT BECAUSE WE HAD A COUPLE OF CITIES THAT WE BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH AND NEGOTIATED.
I CAN EVEN SAY THAT ONE OF THEM WE DROPPED THE BALL ON.
ANOTHER ONE, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER CITIES DROPPED THE BALL.
THE CONTRACT DIDN'T GET EXECUTED.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE INTERLOCAL DIDN'T GET DONE UNTIL THE SUMMERTIME.
ALTHOUGH CITIES A LOT OF TIMES HAD TO WAIT UNTIL LATE THAT YEAR.
IT WAS USUALLY AFTER WE GOT EVERYBODY ELSE DONE, WE HIT THEM LAST.
THAT'S THE ONLY CASE SCENARIO THAT I DON'T THINK WE GET THINGS DONE IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
>> NO, THE FIRST ONE KNOCKED UP THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO HAVE, SO GOOD JOB.
>> NOW, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO "CONTRACT" WITH THE COUNTY? I'M THINKING OF ANDERSON ROAD, WE HAVE SOME SECTIONS OF ANDERSON ROAD THAT ARE JUST FALLING APART.
THEY ALMOST NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THESE OTHER STUFF WE'RE ASKING.
YOU GOT THE RECLAIMING EQUIPMENT, YOU'VE GOT THE PERSONNEL, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE SPREAD THIN, TOO.
>> SEE THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD.
I KNOW OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
AT LEAST SOME OF OUR SERVICE CENTERS HAVE REALLY GOTTEN STRESSED.
IN FACT, THAT'S WHY WE WENT THROUGH THE REBALANCING.
I'VE REALLY GOTTEN STRESSED ON THE WORKLOAD, AND WE HAD OTHER SERVICE CENTERS THAT WEREN'T AS BUSY.
I CAN STAND UP IN FRONT OF YOU AND GO, LOOK GUYS, WE'LL DO TWO MILES.
THAT'S EASY. WE AGREED TO DO THAT FOR EVERY CITY.
ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND, I WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT FROM LIKE WALKER. WE TALKED ABOUT WALKER.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS A SPECIAL CASE SCENARIO, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THAT HAS TO BE YOUR COMMISSIONERS NEED TO TALK ABOUT, YOU'LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
I DON'T WANT TO STAND UP AND GO.
I'LL HANDLE ANDERSON TOO ON AN ADDITIONAL TWO MILES.
IT'LL BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'M NOT SAYING IT'S UNDOABLE.
IT'S JUST IT'S MORE OF A SPECIAL INTERLOCAL ON THAT SITUATION.
>> WELL, THERE WERE TWO OTHER SPECIAL CASES LAST YEAR.
ONLY WALKER, COMMISSIONER LINDER REACHED OUT AND SAID, I'M GOING TO OVERLAY THE REST OF THIS ROAD.
WE NEED TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN AND COME THROUGH AND FINISH THAT, SO WE WORKED TOGETHER ON THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU ALL WERE DOING ANCHOR LAST YEAR, IT STOPPED THE CITY LIMITS, AND THE REST OF THAT ROAD REALLY COULD HAVE BEEN FINISHED.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD TO HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON THAT.
INSTEAD, WE HAVE A STOPPING WHERE IT DOES.
THEN YOU'LL ALSO CAME DOWN VALDERRAS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND STOPPED THE CITY LIMITS.
COULD HAVE COMING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ANDERSON WOULD HAVE HELPED FIX THAT PROBLEM.
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON YOUR SCHEDULE.
>> THAT'S A GREAT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE YOU ALL AREN'T THE ONLY CITY THAT WE RAN INTO THAT ISSUE.
ONCE AGAIN, OWNING OUR OWN ISSUE, WE MISSED THAT.
WE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR IN PARAN WHERE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 250 FEET FROM A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. WE STOPPED.
YOU HATE TO BE THE GUY THAT STANDS UP TO GO, BUT YOU GOT TO OWN IT WHEN IT'S SO OBVIOUS.
HERE'S THIS BRAND NEW PAVED ROAD UP TO ABOUT 250 FEET FROM A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, AND THE REST OF IT LOOKS A LITTLE SHADY.
ANYWAY. ONE THING I'VE ASKED OUR INTERLOCAL TO NEW THIS TIME AROUND IS LOOK FOR THOSE SITUATIONS LIKE WHEN WE GET THE ANNUAL ROAD PLAN APPROVED.
LOOK AT THE MAP, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, SEE IF WE ARE ABOVE THE CITY LIMITS, AND LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE LIKE I SAID,
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WE HAD A NUMBER OF THOSE, NOT JUST HERE IN ANGLETON.IT BECAME PAINFULLY OBVIOUS IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
WE HAD TO MAYBE GO THE EXTRA MILE AND COMMUNICATE.
>> TACK NOW BUT COUNCILMAN BOOTH SAID IS, SOME OF OUR ROADS ARE IN DIRE NEED, AND WE KNOW AND RECOGNIZE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE A THIRD PARTY TO SOME EXTENT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND WE CAN SAVE MONEY AND JUST SAY, JUST GO MILL IT OR RECLAIM IT AND JUST RUN THE RECLAIMER ACROSS THERE, AND THEN WE PAY A THIRD PARTY TO COME IN AND DO THE FINISHED WORK, WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY THAT WAY.
>> THIS MIGHT BE THE THE GUY THAT SPENT A LOT OF TIME CONTRACTING WORK.
MY ONLY CAVEAT I THROW OUT THERE.
LET'S SAY THAT SCENARIO COMES UP.
HEY, GUYS, YOU ALL COME AND RECLAIM IT, GET THE BASE SET UP, AND WE'LL PAY SOMEBODY WHO COME AND PUT THE ASPHALT DOWN.
WHEN YOU'RE HIRING A CONTRACTOR, PART OF WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR IS AT LEAST A WARRANTY ON THAT WORK, A LITTLE ASSURANCE, I'M NOT TELLING YOU I HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF DOING THOSE SAME THINGS.
BUT THE NUMBER 1 ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO COME UP AND THEN THAT FIRST YEAR, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S SOME TYPE OF FAILURE ON THAT ROAD AND YOU CALL THAT CONTRACTOR UP AND GO.
HEY, MAN, YOUR ASPHALT IS FAILING, HE'S GOING TO GO, NO, THAT'S THE BASE.
SEE CECIL IS SHAKING HIS HEAD.
>> THERE ARE MANY SITUATIONS WHERE YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET? THIS HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THEM.
>> ONCE AGAIN, JUST MY OPINION, I WOULD RECOMMEND EITHER YOU GET THE COUNTY TO DO THAT SPECIAL CASE LIKE ANDERSON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LET'S NEGOTIATE A SPECIAL INTERVAL WE COME IN AND DO THAT ROAD OR YOU GET A CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND DO THAT ROAD.
I REALLY WOULDN'T MIX THE TWO WORLDS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR BUT IT'S JUST FROM A GUY THAT'S PAID FOR A LOT OF THE STUFF AND MADE THAT MISTAKE A LOT MYSELF.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT COMES UP.
THERE WAS A CITY WHEN I WORKED FOR IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT WE DID, AND THE CITY CREW WOULD COME OUT AND DO ALL THE SUBGRADE WORK.
WE WERE DOING CONCRETE ROADS, NOT ASPHALT.
BUT THE CITY STAFF WOULD GO AND DO ALL THE BASE WORK OR THE SUBGRADE WORK AND GET IT SET UP AND ALL THEY WANTED TO DO IS HIRE A CONTRACTOR COME IN THERE AND PUT THE FORMS IN AND THE REBAR IN AND PAY FOR CONCRETE.
EVERY TIME WE HAD A FAILURE, IT DIDN'T MATTER.
THE CITY STAFF WOULD SAY, NOPE, IT WAS GOOD, AND THE CONTRACTOR WOULD SAY, NO, THE SUBGRADE WAS POOR.
JOHN KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> HE'S EVER SHAKING HIS HEAD.
>> THAT WAS A VERY ROUGH DEAL.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU COMING.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SUBJECT.
I GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT ON OR OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
>> I WAS GOING TO ANSWER THAT,.
>> THAT'S A GOOD ONE BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT I WAS THAT THING THE OTHER DAY.
>> I TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST TIME.
>> BUT NO, I'VE GOT MONEY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR US TO COME IN AND REPAIR THOSE STREETS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE WITH ASPHALT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT POSSIBLY GOING IN THERE AND DOING SOME CONCRETE.
BUT BASED ON THE DRAINAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I PUT MONEY IN THERE TO GO IN THERE AND NOT JUST OVERLAY THOSE ROADS BUT GO IN THERE AND DO SOME BASE WORK, RECLAIM AND OVERLAY IT.
THE ONLY THING I HAVEN'T DONE IS I WAS GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH JOHN AND HECTOR HERE AND START US TALKING ABOUT, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS, IS THERE ANYTHING THE CITY WANTS FROM US OR YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN LOOK TO A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION?
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ONCE AGAIN ABOUT CONCRETE?
>> OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA, JOHN KNOWS THIS BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO TALK BUT BETWEEN LOOP 274 AND 288B, THAT COULD BE CONCRETE.
>> THE WEST ANNEX SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 288B VELASCO.
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>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT COULD BE CONCRETE.
>> THEN GOING FROM VELASCO TO THE EDGE OF THE ORIGINAL COURTHOUSE RIGHT THERE TO CHENANGO.
THAT'S THAT'S ALREADY HAS ITS STORM SEWER TOO, IF I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT.
IT STARTS AT THE CORNER OF CHENANGO.
>> STORM SEWERS THAT WAS PUT IN AS PART OF THE 388 PROJECT CAME IN.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF SMALL SECTIONS IN THERE THAT COULD BE CONCRETE.
>> I THINK IT'S SAFE. I'LL WORK WITH JOHN AND YOUR STAFF, AND WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THE COURT WHEN I SAY THIS BECAUSE THEY APPROVED THAT MONEY IN MY BUDGET.
WE'VE MADE A TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT HERE IN ANGLETON.
WE WANT IT TO BE DONE RIGHT TOO, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WE CAN START MAY NOT BE THIS BUDGET CYCLE, BUT THERE ARE FUTURE BUDGET CYCLES THAT YOU CAN START PLANNING AHEAD ON.
>> TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION NOW EVEN IF IT IS.
>> AGREE. YOU GOT TO HAVE IT NOW WITH THE PLANNING.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GO IN THERE AND COMPLETELY REBUILD THE ASPHALT ROAD, IF I MIGHT SLAP AN OVERLAY ON IT RIGHT EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY GOING TO LAST A COUPLE OF YEARS.
DRESS IT UP UNTIL WE GET THAT IN THE PLAN.
THAT WILL DEFINITELY IMPACT WHAT I DO NOW IS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'LL COORDINATE.
>> HAVE YOU HEARD FROM TEXT BEFORE? EVERY TIME I TALK TO HIM, I TRY TO PUSH THAT PROJECT.
>> NO. I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACO DRAINAGE.
WE HAVE A STANDING QUARTERLY MEETING WITH TECH SCOTT, AND THAT'S ON OUR LIST TO ASK ABOUT EVERY TIME.
I'VE NEVER GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO ADVANCE THAT PROJECT OR HOW THEY GOING?
>> THAT WOULD BE THE KEY TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE THAT OUR ACOLA DRAINAGE PROJECT.
>> YOU ASKED ABOUT ANOTHER QUESTION WHEN YOU AND I MET ANDERSON ROAD, IT'S GOING TO RING ON ANDERSON ROAD.
I'VE ASKED TWICE TO GET THE SCORING ON ANDERSON ROAD.
AS SOON AS I GET IT OFF I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.
>> WE ACTUALLY MET WITH HDAC REPRESENTATIVE ABOUT THE SCORING ON ANDERSON ROAD.
WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE ON THIS IS THE SCORING OF THE VERBAL PART IS HOW THE RANKINGS OF THE PROJECTS ARE AND THEN YOU DO A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
IF IT'S OVER A ONE, IT'S, YES, THIS PROJECTS READY TO GO OR NO PROJECT IS NOT.
THE WAY THEY SCORED THESE PROJECTS WERE IS THEY TOOK BOTH THE RANKING AND THE SCORING AND THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND COMBINED THOSE TWO.
PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T SCORE AS HIGH AS ANDERSON ROAD ON THE WRITTEN PORTION GOT FUNDED BECAUSE THE BCA WAS SO MUCH HIGHER.
ANGLETON SCORED ON ANDERSON ROAD, THE HIGHEST ONE WE SCORED WAS 14, I BELIEVE 12 OF THEM WENT SO WE WERE TWO OFF.
THE LAST ONE HAD A BCA OF 3.5.
WE HAD A 1.5, BUT THEY HAVE CAR WRECKS, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT SCORE THAT BCA.
TYPICALLY, WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS SEEN IS THE BCA IS JUST A YES OR NO QUESTION.
IS THIS ELIGIBLE? IS IT OVER A ONE? YES. IS IT UNDER A ONE? THEN, NO, IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE.
BUT THE SCORING OF THE WRITE UP PART IS KNOWN AS WHAT WE'VE SEEN, BUT NOW THEY'RE COMBINING THEM BOTH.
NOW, TALKING TO THEM, THEY ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY HAVING ANOTHER SECTION TO WHERE THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IT'S DRIVEN BY TRAFFIC COUNTS TO WHERE THEY CAN COMPARE SMALLER COMMUNITIES TO SMALLER COMMUNITIES AS OPPOSED TO EVERYBODY JUST GOING IN THERE BECAUSE YOUR LARGER COMMUNITIES, YOUR HIGHER TRAFFIC COUNTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE YOUR BIGGER BCA.
EVEN THOUGH YOUR SCORING IS HIGHER THAN IN THE RANKINGS, BECAUSE THERE ARE ONES THAT DIDN'T SCORE AS HIGH THAT GOT FUNDED, BUT IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COMBINATION OF THE BCA.
>> I MEAN, WE'VE HAD FATALITIES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS ON THAT ROAD? PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS.
>> WELL, I KNEW IT WASN'T GOING TO BE POSITIVE WHEN YOU SAID WHAT HAPPENED WAS.
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>> TO ME, THE BCA SHOULD BE, IS THE PROJECT ELIGIBLE? YES OR NO, I CAN GO OFF THE WRITTEN PORTION OF THE SCORE.
WE SCORED SO HIGH IN THE WRITTEN PORTION.
>> HOW OFTEN DO THEY DO THOSE GRANTS?
>> WELL, THIS TIME WAS SO LATE.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT REEVALUATING SCORING CRITERIA AND POSSIBLY STARTING THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN AND MAYBE AS EARLY AS THE SUMMER BUT WE KNOW THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SCORING CRITERIA.
I DON'T THINK WE WILL REALLY CRACK INTO THAT UNTIL THEY HIRE THE NEW DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TITLE BUT YOU HAVE THE NEW TECH HCAC LOSS THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION.
WHATEVER THEY CALL IT. THEY'RE FILLING THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE FILLED PRETTY SOON BECAUSE HAS BEEN A WHILE, BUT LET'S SAY GET HIM ON BOARD.
TEXTOP AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS I COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW THE SCORING WORKED OUT THIS LAST TIME.
I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO GET COMPLETELY REWORKED.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO SCORE THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES IN THE FAST GROWING AREAS DIFFERENTLY SO THAT THEY'RE PUT IN THEIR OWN BUCKET.
>> TALKING TO HCAC, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE SET UP A COUPLE SIDE MEETINGS WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. WE'VE GOT THEIR CONTACT.
WE'VE GOT TO CALL INTO THEM AND ALSO TEXTOP, JUST TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE PROJECT MORE SELECTIBLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD STATED IS THE CITY COULD GO AHEAD AND START DOING THE DESIGN.
I DON'T KNOW THAT'S SUCH A LARGE PROJECT, SUCH A HIGH DOLLAR DESIGN, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CONSTRUCTION FUNDING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION JUST YET, BUT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE COORDINATION WITH THE TWO ENTITIES THAT THEY TOLD US TO CONTINUE WITH.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THAT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET ANDERSON TO SCORE HIGHER.
>> I'D STAND UP AND APPLAUD IF I COULD.
ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
[8. Discussion and possible action on the Capital Improvement Projects (CIP). ]
THANK YOU.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO IN FEBRUARY, AS EVERYONE CAN RECALL, WE PRESENTED THE RATE STUDY.
OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED IS WHY ARE UTILITY RATES SO HIGH COMPARED TO OTHERS? I'M GOING TO START OFF BY ANSWERING IT SIMPLY, BUT THEN I'LL EXPAND ON IT, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, SO PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU ALL WANT ME TO ELABORATE ANY MORE ON THINGS.
THE NEED FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND REPLACEMENTS, REHABILITATIONS, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, IT'S JUST A GREAT AMOUNT OF ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A MASS AMOUNT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT'S ALREADY AT AGE OF REPLACEMENT.
IT'S REACHED ITS LIFESPAN, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE'RE FACING.
WE HAVE A MASS AMOUNT OF PROJECTS.
ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, REPAIRED, BUT ALSO IN THE TIME OF TRYING TO GET THOSE DONE, THINGS ARE JUST FALLING APART ON US.
>> HOLD ON, HECTOR. YOU SAID IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, 72% OF ANGLETON'S INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IN PLACED BY 1980?
>> WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED NOW? IF YOU HAD TO SAY, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FAILURES AT AGE OF REPLACEMENT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY IS PROBABLY IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT?
>> AT LEAST HALF OF THAT, I WOULD SAY, IMMEDIATELY.
WE RUN INTO ISSUES ALL THE TIME, OR IT COULD JUST BE SOMETHING IF SOMEONE CALLS IN A SEWER STOPPAGE.
WE GO IN AND WE TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE, BUT WHEN WE GO AND LOOK AT THE STATE OF THE PIPE, STATE OF THE MANHOLES OF WHERE THE ISSUE IS, YOU CAN TELL RIGHT THERE, THIS SECTION OF PIPE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
THEN SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE OTHER ISSUES THAT FOLLOW UP TO THAT, THEY'LL CALL IT ANOTHER SEWER STOPPAGE, ANOTHER ONE.
US GOING IN THERE AND JET RODDING ISN'T NECESSARILY IMPROVING THAT PIPE STATE, IT'S MAKING IT FALL APART EVEN MORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONCRETE PIPE WHERE THE TOPS MISSING GAS IS EMITTING A WAY, WHILE YOU'RE RUNNING THAT HIGH PRESSURE HOST THROUGH THERE TO ALLEVIATE THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEM, WHILE YOU'RE FURTHER DETERIORATING THAT PIPE AT A FASTER RATE.
BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE MAIN DRIVERS OF WHY THESE RATES HAVE INCREASED SO MUCH IS BECAUSE THE BILLS COME IN DUE ALL AT ONE TIME.
NOW WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REPLACED ENOUGH OF IT ALREADY, BUT WE HAVE A MASS AMOUNT OF IT IS JUST FAILING ON US ALREADY AT THIS POINT.
JUST TO PUT NUMBERS TOGETHER THERE'S $402 MILLION OF IDENTIFIED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS,
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WHERE THAT'S REHABILITATIONS, PIPE REPLACEMENTS, OR EVEN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER TOWER, THINGS LIKE THAT.THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST AS A TOTAL.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, AGAIN, AS I DISCUSSED AGE OF THINGS BASED ON ANGLETON'S POPULATION, MAJORITY OF IT IS HERE IN THE 1980S OR PRIOR TO THE 1980S.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT, ALL THIS STUFF IS 45 YEARS PLUS.
AGAIN, THINGS ARE FALLING APART AT A RAPID RATE.
IT HAD DIFFERENT LIFE EXPECTANCIES AND IT'S JUST EVERYTHING'S DUE NOW.
BUT OF THAT, JUST, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD $11.81 MILLION WAS INVESTED OR SPENT ON PROJECTS, EMERGENCIES, WHATEVER THE CASE WAS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, INVESTED INTO OUR WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.
HOWEVER, OUT OF THAT, $7,630,000 OF THAT WAS ALL EMERGENCIES.
IT MEANS IT WASN'T A PLAN PROJECT.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE SAID, IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS SINCE WE PLANED, THIS IS TIME TO ACTUALLY DO THE PROJECT.
NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 60% OF THAT IS ALL DUE TO EMERGENCIES, JUST TO EMPHASIZE THAT THINGS ARE FALLING APART ON US AT A RAPID RATE.
>> THE GROUND STORAGE ON THE ELEVATOR STORAGE.
>> THOSE WERE ALSO EMERGENCIES AS WELL.
>> ON THE WATER SIDE. IT'S ON THE SEWER SIDE AT ALL?
>> YES. AGAIN, THOSE WERE EMERGENCY ISSUES AS WELL, BECAUSE TCQ VIOLATIONS STARTED COMING IN, WE HAD FAILURES AT THE TOWER, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WELL, AGAIN, MAINTENANCE WAS PUSHED OFF.
WE SHOULD HAVE REHABILITATED THOSE TANKS YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.
THAT'S GETTING INTO THE EMERGENCY PART OF IT, BUT THEN ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR FUNDS WE'RE RECEIVING NOW VERSUS OUR BUDGET.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS PRESENTED HERE, $12,429,000, THAT'S OUR REVENUE WE'RE PROJECTED TO GET THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT ALSO THAT MATCHES OUR EXPENDITURES BASED ON THE BUDGET WE HAVE THAT WAS APPROVED.
IT'S GOING RIGHT BACK OUT THE DOOR.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING FUND BALANCE, WE'RE NOT DOING US ANY FAVORS.
WE'RE JUST GETTING THROUGH A BUDGET YEAR IS ALL WE'RE DOING.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT REALLY PLANNING FOR PROJECTS, LIKE WE HAVE $402 MILLION NUMBER IN FRONT OF US, AND WE'RE NOT WORKING TOWARDS THAT AT ALL.
IN THE PRIOR YEAR TO THAT END BUDGET, WE WERE ACTUALLY IN A SLIGHT DEFICIT.
A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR.
ANOTHER FACTOR IS BUDGET WISE, IS THAT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS THERE WERE SOME TRANSFERS MADE FROM UTILITY FUND OVER TO GENERAL FUND TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THAT.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT REDUCED THE FUND BALANCE IN ANOTHER WAY.
THERE'S ALSO THE FACTOR OF THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE NEED TO INSTILL HERE THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.
JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, THERE WASN'T REALLY A HYDRO MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF FIRE HYDRANTS THAT WERE OUT OF SERVICE, NOT REALLY TAKEN CARE OF.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE INCREASED THE BUDGET TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE HAVE VALVES, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VALVES IN TOWN THAT ARE IN THE GROUND THAT WE DON'T MAINTAIN.
WE DON'T GO AROUND AND TEST ALL OF THEM, WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE NEED TO DO SIMILAR TO HYDRO MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
ALSO, YOU CAN DO MANHOLE REHABILITATION ON A PROGRAM BASIS, BUT FUNDING DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
AGAIN, IN SUMMARY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
IS THAT WE HAVE THIS MASS AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THINGS HAVE COME OF AGE, WHERE THEY'RE JUST FALLING APART ON US FASTER THAN WE CAN FIX THEM.
EMERGENCY WORK IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PLANNED WORK.
NOT ONLY ARE WE SPENDING MORE IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT REPAIRING ANYTHING THAT PLANNED PROJECT FOR FUTURE CIP.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANY OF THAT AT THE MOMENT.
WE'RE JUST SPENDING MONEY ON EMERGENCIES. IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> SMALLER PROJECT IS HIGHER COSTS AS OPPOSED TO.
>> YES. A LOT OF THESE ISSUES, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE LOOK OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND TOWN.
THESE AREN'T NEW ISSUES THAT, THEY ARE POPPING UP, AND THE CITY WASN'T AWARE OF, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PROJECTS THAT I'VE SEEN PLANNED THAT ARE COMPLETED, LIKE AT LIFT STATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, YOU HAVE A NORMAL SET OF PUMPS FOR DRY WEATHER AND ANOTHER SET OF PUMPS FOR STORM WATER, ENTIRE SEPARATE FORCE MAN TO GO TO THE PLANT BECAUSE WE HAVE RAIN WATER COMING IN, LET'S JUST PUMP MORE OF IT.
SAME THING AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WE BUILT ANOTHER CLARIFIER THERE INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF REPLACING SOME PIPES.
I GET IT AT THE TIME, YOU'RE FACED WITH WHAT IS THE TOTAL OF SANITARY SEWER REHABS? $130 MILLION.
THAT'S A BIG NUMBER TO JUST SAY, LET'S GO IN HERE AND REPLACE ALL THIS STOP THE RAINWATER.
I GET IT'S CHEAPER TO BUILD A CLARIFIER OR ADD SOME MORE PUMPS AT A LIFT STATION TO SEND MORE WATER.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST CLARIFYING ON THE ANSWER THAT I GAVE IS THAT WE JUST HAVE A MASS AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IMMEDIATELY, BUT ALSO IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T INVESTED ENOUGH COMPARED TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT VERSUS THE AMOUNT WE'VE ACTUALLY INVESTED.
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I ALSO PUT TOGETHER, ALL THE CITIES THAT ARE ON THAT LIST, AND I LEFT THEM IN THE SAME ORDER.THEY'RE IN THE SAME THE HIGHEST COST ANGLETON AT THE TOP.
THIS IS, OF COURSE, AFTER WE GET TO THE SECOND RATE INCREASE AND PUT THEM IN THE SAME ORDER THAT WAS LISTED ON THAT PRESENTATION WHEN WE DID THE RATE STUDY.
JUST TO SHOWCASE TOO THAT ANGLETON, IT'S A WHOLE UNIQUE CITY COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.
I JUST WE DON'T HAVE IMPACT FEES IN PLACE LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES.
AGAIN, OUR POPULATION IN THE 80S, MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION WAS HERE ALREADY, SO WE HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER CITIES THAT ARE IN THE SAME BOAT BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER CITIES IN HERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PARA, FOR INSTANCE, ONLY 10% OF POPULATION WAS THERE IN 1980.
THEY HAVE ALL NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEY'VE ALSO BEEN UTILIZING IMPACT FEES SINCE 1997, WHICH MEANS THEY'VE BEEN USING THAT AS A FUNDING MECHANISM, THEY NEEDED TO BUILD A NEW WATER TOWER FOR GROWTH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY UTILIZED THOSE FEES TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE ISSUES.
IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE CITY'S POCKET NECESSARILY IN A LOT OF THOSE CASES.
MANVILLE'S IN THE SAME POSITION AS WELL, BUT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING REALLY NEW GROWTH, AS YOU CAN TELL, THEIR IMPACT FEES WEREN'T INITIATED UNTIL 2023.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IN A NUTSHELL.
LET'S SHOW ME TO CLARIFY ON ANYTHING OR HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> WELL, SOME PROJECTS WE HAVE OUT FOR FUNDING THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, AND THEN WE USE CDBG FUNDS, WHICH THE RULES AGAIN HAVE CHANGED.
THEN WE'RE USING SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC AND THAT STUFF.
>> YEAH, THE PIFS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED THROUGH FREEZING NICHOLS HAS SUBMITTED ON OUR BEHALF, $35 MILLION WORTH OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ARE WASTEWATER PROJECTS.
SOME OF IT, SOME WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT REHABILITATION ITEMS, ALSO SOME LIFT STATION REHABILITATION ITEMS AND AND I THINK IT WAS SEVERAL THOUSAND FEET OF SEWER LINE REHABILITATION.
ALL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN A PACKAGE $35 MILLION WORTH, WHICH AND THAT LIFT STATION THERE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP THREE ON THE LIST, I'D SAY, JUST BECAUSE THE STATE OF IT, IT CAN FALL APART AT ANY TIME.
>> WELL, THE IMPACT OF THAT ONE, TOO, IS SO NOT ONLY YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THREE YEARS AND $10 MILLION TO REPLACE IT, BUT NOW YOU'VE GOT TO DO A BYPASS DURING THAT TIME WHEN IT'S NOT OPERATIONAL.
IT'S NOT JUST WE WAIT AND REHAB IT.
IT'S WE GOT TO SOMETHING ELSE TO KEEP THE STUFF FLOWING INTO THE PLANT AND THAT'S THAT'S A COUPLE MILLION DOLLAR COST.
>> YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF IT, HECTOR, BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS OF, WHY DOES ANGLETON PAY THE MOST TO BWA? WHY IS ANGLETON RELYING SO HEAVILY ON BWA MORE THAN THE OTHER CITIES ARE WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN WELL SYSTEM.
AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS PRESENTED VERY WELL, I LIKE IT.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT SPLIT BETWEEN WATER AND WASTEWATER.
SPECIFICALLY, WHAT IS DRIVING OUR M&O COST? MORE OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE ANNUAL SPEND TO UNDERSTAND.
THE CIP IS IMPORTANT AND I'M GLAD WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT REALLY, WHAT MAKES OUR RATE SO HIGH WHEN YOU GET BACK TO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? YEAH, THERE'S AN IMS. THERE'S BONDS IN THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE.
BUT JUST MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, WHY DOES IT COST SO MUCH MORE FOR US ON THE WATER SIDE? HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO AREA CITIES ON THEIR M&O SITE? THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU PRESENTING THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT AND WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS MAYBE TWICE A YEAR, HONESTLY AND THEN MAYBE TAKE THIS CIP, AND LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM A 10 YEAR PERSPECTIVE.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THESE THINGS GOING FORWARD? WHICH WE DID ON THAT WASTEWATER AND WATER STUDY THAT WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD DUST THAT THING OFF AND BRING IT BACK AND LOOK AND SAY, HOW ARE WE DOING WHERE ARE WE?
>> YES. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALL THAT'S GOING TO BRING UP IS THAT MORE RATE INCREASES.
>> YES. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT THAT'S PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS.
YES, AND I GET THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS AS WELL, BUT THIS IS A LOT LARGER DRIVER THAN THAT I'D SAY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER AMOUNT OF THESE PROJECTS NEED TO BE DONE, BECAUSE THESE ISSUES ARE ONLY GOING TO COMPOUND.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EYE AND EYE, THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STAY THE SAME.
ALL THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THE SOCIAL START FALLING APART AT EVEN FASTER RATE.
>> JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THE INVESTMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE, 60% OF IT IS MAINTENANCE IN THAT THING.
THERE'S A LOT OF THAT COST THAT HE IDENTIFIED GOES INTO THAT MAINTENANCE.
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>> BUT REALLY SEEING A BREAKDOWN WOULD BE NICE JUST TO SEE IF YOU TRENDED IT OVER, PERSONNEL COSTS, MAINTENANCE OPERATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT REPLACEMENTS ANNUALLY, WATER LINE BREAKS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND MAYBE TREND OVER THREE YEARS, COMPARE THAT TO ANOTHER AREA OF CITY, SEE IF THEY'LL SEND YOU THAT DATA.
THEN SEE HOW DO WE STACK UP? WHERE'S THE DRIVER ON THAT?
>> SOMEBODY ELSE WHO'S ON BWA SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE NICE.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR UTILITY BILLING.
WELL, DON'T WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THOUGH? HANG ON A MINUTE. THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER IN A WATER FUND THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
>> SUSIE WASN'T THE GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZING THE WATER FUND?
>> YES. NOW, THAT'S THAT'S FORTUITOUS, BUT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE.
>> WE'RE GOOD. WE NEED TO BE AND CECIL HAS SAID THIS BEFORE, I BELIEVE, THAT THAT BUDGET NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED TO SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THAT'S WRAPPED UP IN THE TAX RATE AND NOT A FUNCTION OF THE UTILITY BILL.
AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? WASN'T THAT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED? WE NEED TO SEE THAT IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
THAT WAY THE UTILITY BILLING, AND I'M GOING TO SAY THE STRIKE TO THE CAMERA REPRESENTS THE TRUE COST OF THE UTILITY BILLING AND THIS ADDITIONAL FUND THAT WE'RE TAKING FROM FOR OTHER THINGS, WHICH WAS HELPFUL THIS GO AROUND.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT WASN'T.
BUT WE NEED TO DO I'M NOT SAYING YOU.
I'M SAYING COLLECTIVELY A BETTER JOB BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS PROBLEM TACKLED AND THAT I THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO REDUCING THESE FEES.
>> YOU SPOKE UP, SUSIE, SO NOW I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
I THOUGHT WHEN WE TALKED, YOU TOLD ME THAT USAGE WAS DOWN LAST YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T RECOVER.
>> WHEN I DID THE CORRECTION ON YOUR BUDGET, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET HAD A TRANSFER FROM THE WATER FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND AND I SAID IT COULD NOT HANDLE IT.
WE TOOK THAT OUT AND WE REMOVED IT FROM THE STREET FUND AND THEN WE DID A CORRECTION IN ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS LOWERED THEIR BUDGETS.
THERE ARE NO TRANSFERS FROM EITHER STREET FUND OTHER THAN 299,000 THAT WAS LEFT FOR THE WATER FUND.
BUT IN THE PRIOR YEARS IN 22, 23, 24, THEY WERE TRANSFERS FROM YOUR WATER FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND.
>> FOR THE '24 '25 BUDGET, THERE IS NOT A TRANSFER.
>> HOW MUCH WAS THE TRANSFER AGAIN LAST YEAR?
>> THAT TO ME, THIS DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE A NON-PROFIT SITUATION.
>> IT'S GOT TO COVER. THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
>> OUR RATES WERE REAL HIGH FROM A LONG TIME AGO.
>> SINCE I WAS HERE FOR 24 YEARS.
THE REASON BEING THAT THEY WERE SO HIGH BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBORING CITIES DO GET SUBSIDIZED FROM BSF, FROM DOW, CHOCOLATE BIO.
THE THE CITIES CHOSE TO LOWER THEIR PROPERTY TAXES OR CHOOSE TO LOWER THEIR UTILITY BILLING, BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA INCOME THEY DO GET.
WE DON'T GET THOSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU, SUSANE.
>> I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HIGH.
>> BUT I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE SURFACE WATER USAGE AND WATER WELLS.
WELL, YES, WE DO HAVE OUR OWN WATER WELL SYSTEMS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR ACTIVE WELLS TOTAL.
BUT THE ISSUE IS THAT SOME OF THESE WELLS HAVE JUST BEEN AGAIN, NO MONEY WAS PUT INTO THESE WELLS TO KEEP THEM GOING, SO THEY'RE JUST DILAPIDATED.
THEY NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REHABILITATED, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
THESE WELLS APPEAR TO BE SALVAGEABLE FROM, WE DID SOME VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THEM TO SEE IF THEY WERE SALVAGEABLE AND THEY APPEAR TO BE,
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AND WE CAN PUT MONEY INTO THOSE.BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT SOON, AND I SAY SOON, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WITHIN 10 YEARS, FIVE YEARS, BUT AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT HERE IN MISSOURI COUNTY.
THEY'VE ALREADY SET UP TEST WELLS AND THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS BECAUSE IT'S WE'RE PULLING SO MUCH OUT THE GROUND AT THIS POINT.
THEN, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE LIST OF CITIES, YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE LOWER COST, A LOT OF THEM YOU DON'T HAVE BWA, SOME OF THEM HAVE BWA, BUT ALSO A LOT OF THEM PROBABLY DON'T RELY ON IT AS MUCH AS WE DO.
WE'RE UPWARDS OF 90% RELYING ON THEM.
THAT'S ANOTHER COST OBVIOUSLY.
WE TAKE A LOT COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
I THINK THE ONLY CITY THAT REALLY TAKES MORE THAN US, I BELIEVE IS ROSENBERG AND THAT'S IT, BUT THEY'RE QUITE A BIT LARGER THAN US, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE THE HIGHEST USER BWA HAS.
>> COULD WE PUT TOGETHER? ONE OF THE THINGS I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IS WHAT IN A PERFECT SITUATION, WHAT WOULD BE THE NECK CAPACITY OF OUR WELLS COLLECTIVELY? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY GALLONS WE CAN REALISTICALLY PULL OUT OF THOSE GALLON IN SOME TIME FRAME A MONTH, ANNUALLY.
>> IF WE HAD ALL OF THEM WORKING IN PERFECT CONDITION RIGHT NOW?
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE.
>> WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I JUST DON'T HAVE IT HERE.
>> HOW WE COULD BE? YES, THANKS A LOT.
>> WE ARE TRYING TO GET TOGETHER BIDS WHAT IT WOULD COST TO ACTUALLY REHABILITATE THESE WELLS.
WE JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED EVERYTHING BACK JUST YET.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON BECAUSE WE HAD THEM.
WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY WEREN'T PLUGGED 100% ALL THE WAY LIKE WE THOUGHT THEY WERE INITIALLY.
WHEN WE WENT OVER THERE, THE MOTORS AND PUMPS ARE STILL ATTACHED TO THEM.
WE REMOVED THEM AND YOU HAD A CAMERA SURVEY DONE ON THEM, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY APPEAR TO BE SALVAGEABLE, BUT ONCE YOU GET IN THERE, YOU GOT TO GET IN THERE AND REHABILITATE THEM FIRST AND TO REALLY KNOW.
THAT'S A FRACTION OF THE COST OF DRILLING A NEW ONE. I'LL SAY THAT.
>> AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE DECISION MUST HAVE BEEN MADE TO QUIT DEPENDING SO MUCH ON THOSE WATER WELLS, HENCE THEIR DEGRADATION.
ANYTHING ELSE, YOU QUIT USING IT, AND IT'S GOING TO DETERIORATE.
NOT TO TRY TO GO DEAL WITH THE SINS OF OUR FATHER, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THAT'S WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THE WATER WHILE YOU USE IT?
>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ALWAYS HAVE SOME GOOD ANSWERS.
>> THANKS FOR DISCUSSING THIS ONE.
>> ITEM NUMBER 9, UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON
[9. Update, discussion and possible action on the unspent bonds for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Budget.]
THE UNSPENT BONDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 BUDGET.>> MAYOR COUNSEL. [NOISE]. THE UNSPENT BOND AS REPORT THAT IS REQUIRED FOR YOUR END OF THE YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30TH.
THE FIRST PAGE IS YOUR END OF THE YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30TH, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE SEVEN ACTUAL BONDS STILL LEFT WITH BALANCES IN THEM.
BUT IN REALITY, YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR ACTIVE BONDS.
NEXT. YOUR FIRST BOND IS TO 218 BOND.
THAT IS YOUR STREET IMPROVEMENT BOND.
YOU ONLY HAVE $722,000 LEFT AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
THAT ALONG WITH YOUR STREET FUND, TWO MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS TO BE FOR YOUR NORTH PARISH AND SILVER SADDLE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT IS A $3,403,742 PROJECT.
IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE SHORT, $808,000 FOR THAT PROJECT.
>> THE NORTH PARISH AND SILVER SADDLE PROJECT.
YOU ONLY HAVE THE 218 BOND MONEY AND THE TWO MILLION DOLLAR THAT'S IN YOUR STREET FUND.
THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE 218 BOND THAT YOU HAVE.
THE NEXT BOND IS THE 2022 BOND,
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AND THAT IS THE BOND THAT'S TAKING CARE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] THE AMX, THE FIRE STATION AND NOW WE INCLUDED THE 288 DIFFERENCE.100,000 FROM THAT BOND TO SUBSIDIZE THE 218 BOND TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH THAT PROJECT.
THE 288 UTILITY PROJECT IS $1,250,000 PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE PRIOR TO GETTING THE GRANT.
THAT IS TO COME OUT OUT OF THE CITY'S MONEY.
RIGHT NOW, THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT IS BEING OUT OF THE WATER FUND.
WE ONLY HAVE $90,000 LEFT FOR IT TO FINISH, AND THEN WE WILL GO OUT FOR BIDS.
THE 2022 BOND CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT DIFFERENCE WITH A SHORT FALL OF 227, BUT THAT I GAVE IT $900,500.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS ONCE WE ACCEPT THIS PROJECT, IT HAS $1,068,000 MATCH.
>> NO, IT'S 1.5 MILLION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT GOING OUT FOR A BOND FOR [OVERLAPPING].
>> ITS MATCHED THAT'S NOT PART OF THE BOND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT IT IS TO BE DISGUISED TO GO OUT FOR A BOND.
BUT IN THIS BOND ITSELF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BOND ITSELF.
THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR 2022 BOND.
THE NEXT BOND IS THE 2024, AND THAT IS FOR THE PARKS BOND.
THE PARKS BOND IS VERY WELL TAKEN CARE OF, AND THE ADDITIONAL COST WILL BE FROM PAID THROUGH GRANTS AND THROUGH ABLC.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT BOND, AND I DON'T THINK COUNSEL SHOULD BE EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY WELL IN PLACE.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE.
>> THAT'S ALL THROUGH SALES TAX FUNDING.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S THE ABLC AND SOME OF THE GRANTS THAT THEY HAD DIFFERENCES OF $881,000.
>> IT SAYS SECURED BY AS FROM TAX, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT NOT EXPECTING [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT IS NOT PART OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX, YES.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE EMERGENCY BOND.
WE HAVE SPENT ALL THAT MONEY NOW.
I'M DOWN TO MAYBE $800,000, $600,000 OF THAT IS COMMITTED FOR THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
I'M DOWN TO $200,000 WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
THERE ARE SUB PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FINISHED, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN AWARDED OR FMA SAYS THEY WILL PAY THEM, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY REIMBURSEMENT.
AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY MONEY FROM FMA, MY FUND 108 MIGHT BE IN THE MINUS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY MONEY AND I NO LONGER HAVE EMERGENCY MONEY.
>> BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SET A RECEIVABLE FOR NOW OR NO?
>> I CAN SET UP A RECEIVABLE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT WON'T BE COVERED BY THE EMERGENCY NOTE.
I DON'T HAVE A TIME FRAME OF WHEN FMA WOULD BE REIMBURSING.
>> HOW MUCH HAVE YOU RECEIVED FROM FMA SO FAR? I KNOW, WE'VE RECEIVED SOMETHING.
>> I HAVE NOT RECEIVED AS FAR FOR THIS.
>> THOUGHT WE WERE TOLD THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE 120K COMING IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT [OVERLAPPING] CHRIS IS IT?
>> BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET.
>> IT'S BEEN AWARDED. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE MONEY.
>> WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE PHYSICAL [INAUDIBLE] CHECK.
>> WE'VE GOT NOTIFICATION THAT IT'S BEEN AWARDED, BUT WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE MONEY.
I CAN SAY WE ARE WORKING ON THE HENDERSON PROJECT AND MAYBE GOING OUT FOR BOND ON THAT, TOO.
>> TRAVIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON US?
>> NO, I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
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>> ITEM NUMBER 10. DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SELECTION PROCESS,
[10. Discussion and possible action on the selection process to fill the vacancy of Council Position No. 3. ]
TO FILL THE VACANCY OF COUNSEL POSITION NUMBER 3.>> MICHELLE, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR YOU WANT ME [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, I THINK WE NEED GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL, I KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND SEEMS LIKE IT DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL.
YOU ALL TELL US HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT AND WHAT STAFF NEEDS TO DO.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S REALLY JUST MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION, AND THAT'S WHO'S IT.
BUT IF YOU WANT ANOTHER MEETING TO HAVE THE COUNCIL GO OUT AND THINK ABOUT IT AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OR IF YOU WANTED TO BRING IN CANDIDATES OR WHATEVER YOUR PROCESS IS, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW TO ASSIST THAT PROCESS AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.
>> I THINK WE PROBABLY BRING THIS ONE BACK UP AGAIN NEXT TIME.
>> I WON'T BE HERE. DISCUSSION I HAD WITH MICHELLE WAS, INSTEAD OF GETTING APPLICATIONS FROM 10 OR 15 PEOPLE OR HOW MANY OF HER, AND US AS A COUNCIL KNOW WHO WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT AND IF WE WANT TO MAYBE GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I SAT ON THIS COUNCIL BEFORE.
WE'VE DONE IT DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE PAST AS WELL, WHERE, YOU GET A CANDIDATE AND YOU KICKED OUT WHO YOU WANT, AND THEN WE GET THOSE PEOPLE AND WE INTERVIEW THOSE PEOPLE, SO WE'RE NOT WASTING EVERYONE ELSE WHO GOES AND PUTS IN THEIR APPLICATION AND SUBMITS A TIME TO COME SIT AND INTERVIEW.
YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO YOU WANT.
I WANT TO KICK IT TO THE COUNSEL AND SAY, HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
DO YOU WANT TO FOLLOW JUST THE SAME PROCESS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST? GET THE WHO APPLIES AND THEN DECIDE FROM THERE, WHO COMES TO THE COUNCIL MEETING PRESENTS? THAT'D BE LIKE A HYBRID OF THE SITUATION.
>> I GUESS MINE WOULD BE A FIRST WOULD BE A GROUP CONSENSUS.
DO WE WANT A PERSON WHO INTENDS TO RUN AGAIN OR DO WE WANT THE SPOT FILLER? THAT WOULD AGREE TO GO.
WE EVEN HAVE THE SPOT JUST ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, BUT NOT RUNNING AS A INCUMBENT ESSENTIALLY.
THAT'S PROBABLY A HYPOCRITICAL SINCE I WAS AN APPOINTMENT AND RAN.
BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION.
I FEEL A SPOT WHO VACATED THEIR SPOT.
TERRY LEFT US AND FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, I KNOW HE WAS SUBJECT TO ANOTHER ELECTION BUT WOULD HAVE LIKELY RUN AGAIN AND CONTINUED IN HIS SPOT.
>> WHICH MEANS TO ME THIS OUGHT TO BE SOMEBODY JUST FILLING THAT SPOT, I DON'T KNOW.
>> I ASKED THAT QUESTION YEARS AGO, AND THE ANSWER I GOT FROM THE CURRENT MAYOR AT THAT TIME WAS, YOU CAN'T TELL SOMEBODY THEY CAN'T HAVE A SPOT AND THEN NOT RUN AGAIN.
THEY CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'LL JUST BE A FILLER [OVERLAPPING]
>> UNDERSTOOD. THERE'S NO CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT, IT IS A HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT ANYBODY THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD AGREE TO APPOINT, THAT THAT CURRENT COUNCIL WOULD WANT THAT PERSON TO STAY. MY OPINION.
>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ASK SOMEBODY TO SERVE THIS OUT CONTINGENT ON THEM. THEY GOT A RUN.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP THIS LAST ELECTION.
THREE SEATS CAME OPEN, THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING THE CITY IN POSITION NUMBER 3, BUT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT SOMEONE WHO'S HAD SOME INTEREST IN THE CITY IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, WHO'S SHOWED AN INTEREST,
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AND SOMEONE THAT'S "KNOWN".>> I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY WHO SHOWS UP TO EVERY MEETING, CAN JUMP RIGHT IN.
>> FULL DISCLOSURE, I THINK THAT'S MISS SIMMONS.
>> SHE DID DECLINE, BUT THAT WAS MY FIRST [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M JUST SAYING, TALK ABOUT HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
>> CHANGE MORE COMFORTABLE. [LAUGHTER]
>> GET THE FACTS TOO. WE JUST GO TO CHECK HER RESIDENCY.
>> DO YOU LIVE IN THE [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> I HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT TO BY A FEW OTHERS AS WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT ME TO DISCLOSE THAT YET.
>> WELL, I HAVE TOO. ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ARE EXCELLENT CANDIDATES.
IT'S NOT ONE PREFERENTIAL PERSON OVER ANOTHER.
JUST LITERALLY, TALK ABOUT FUNCTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
[LAUGHTER] SHE'S HERE AT EVERY MEETING.
THAT'S ALL I MEANT, WAS IT'S NOTHING, I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE CAN CATCH UP AND SMART PEOPLE WILL STUDY AND INVEST THEMSELVES IN THEIR TIME.
>> WELL, AND I'LL ECHO THAT BY SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO'VE REACHED OUT TO ME, I HOPE YOU ALL WATCH, AND NONE YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT.
AS ARE NONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE REACHED OUT TO ANY OF YOU ALL.
>> YOU DON'T WANT IT BAD ENOUGH.
>> WELL, IF THE AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU LOOKED AT IT, IT DOES SAY NUMBER 10, AND IF IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT.
NOW, I KNOW THERE'S LIFE ACTIVITIES, I'M NOT TRYING TO PAINT WITH A BROAD BRUSH.
>> MAYOR, DID YOU SAY YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AND YOU'RE NOT EITHER?
>> NO, I WILL BE. I'LL UNFORTUNATELY BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'LL SQUEAK BY. [LAUGHTER]
>> WAY TO BE ON TOP OF THINGS.
>> NOBODY GETS TO GO TO THE BATHROOM THOUGH.
>> YOU'RE A HARD MAYOR PRO TEM.
>> COUNCIL, WHICH WAY YOU LEAN IN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION? DO YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE FOR IT?
>> MISS SIMMONS, I'M GOING TO PUT YOU UP AT THE AT THE PODIUM REAL QUICK.
CAN YOU PLEASE GO TO THE PODIUM? LET'S JUST HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
WE DID HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, BUT LET'S PUT IT ON RECORD.
>> MISS SIMMONS, I ASKED YOU, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN SERVING, AND WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE?
>> I SAID, I AM NOT A PROPERTY OWNER, I DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
I LIVE IN MY PARENTS' HOME, I HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 1967, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE IF THERE'S A VOTE ON THE BUDGET AND TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I AM HERE IF YOU NEED ME, I'M HERE EVERY TIME.
>> THERE'S NO CHANGE IN MY SCHEDULE.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S MY PUSH BACK, AND I PUSH THAT BACK TO Y'ALL.
>> PAYING TAXES IS NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.
>> I GUESS IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF FELLOWS LIVED IN AN APARTMENT, GOT A WILD HAIR.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S A COUNTY JUDGE THAT LIVED IN AN APARTMENT WHEN THEY TOOK OFFICE.
>> DO YOU PAY THE WATER AND SEWER BILL?
>> I PAY PART OF THEM, SO THAT IS TRACEABLE.
>> WELL, THAT'S THE BIG DISCUSSION THESE DAYS.
[LAUGHTER] LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
IF YOU WERE TO SIT HERE, WOULD YOU BE IN SITTED RUNNING AGAIN, OR WOULD YOU JUST FILL THE TERM?
>> I DON'T KNOW. I JUST TURNED 65, SO I WOULD PUSH BACK TO Y'ALL ON THAT TOO.
I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO BE OUT THERE BEATING IN THE BUSHES TO FIND SOMEBODY.
I WOULD BE PERFECTLY HAPPY NEVER HAVING TO RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN.
[LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I'VE TOLD YOU ALL THAT MANY TIMES, WHAT Y'ALL DO IS HARD WORK.
>> YOU MIGHT MAKE IT LOOK EASY.
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[LAUGHTER] MIGHT HAVE AN UNCANNY NECK.I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU HAD ASKED ME A YEAR AGO WHEN I WAS STILL WORKING EVERY DAY, I'D BE LIKE, OH, NO.
BECAUSE WHAT Y'ALL DO IS HARD WORK.
EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO IS DIFFICULT, AND YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU COME TO PLAY.
>> SOMEHOW THAT DIDN'T QUITE SOUND LIKE A YES, BUT IT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS A YES.
>> I TOLD THE MAYOR, I'M HERE IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO.
I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
>> WELL, SOME OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE TO.
>> BUT WHEN COUNCILMAN ROBERT SEE THIS UP, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO RUN.
I WOULD PREFER EVERYBODY HAVE TO LOOK FOR SOMEBODY.
>> I THINK FOLLOWING MR. BOOTH'S STATEMENT, I KNOW I ORIGINALLY ARTICULATED THE OPPOSITE.
I'M NOT HOLDING AGAINST THAT, BUT I THINK MR. BOOTH IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO STOP YOU.
>> ON THE OTHER HAND, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW YOU WOULD VOTE.
THIS IS NOT LIKE THAT, I DON'T CARE.
I THINK PERSONALLY, MY OPINION IS I LIKE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SPEAK THEIR MINDS.
I LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OPINION KNOWN.
I THINK IT GIVES MORE DEPTH TO THE CONVERSATION.
I HAVE BEEN SWAYED BY PROBABLY EVERYBODY ON HERE AT ONE POINT OF TIME WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO VOTE ONE WAY, AND LISTENED TO THE ARGUMENTS AND PROBABLY VOTED THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT AN ISSUE.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WILLING TO INVEST YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT JUST SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF, BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY ALSO SPEAKING FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE SIMILAR OPINIONS.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
>> I WILL GIVE MY OPINIONS. [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, THAT'S GOOD, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO.
I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE TO ARTICULATE IN THE GREAT DEPTH ON EVERYTHING, BUT AT LEAST MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.
>> I WOULD NEVER JUST ALWAYS WANT TO LISTEN.
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU JUST COME BACK NEXT TIME WITH LIST OF PEOPLE.
WE COULD JUST DISCUSS. MAYBE YOU HAVE TO GO OFFLINE OR SOMETHING.
>> NOT NEXT MEETING, BUT THE MEETING AFTER, SO WE'RE ALL HERE.
>> AGREE. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS DECISION WITHOUT THE MAYOR.
>> I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FILL THOSE SEATS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN WITHOUT NOT JUST MAKING A KNEE-JERK DECISION.
>> IF I'M THINKING AHEAD, SECOND MEETING IN APRIL.
>> I KNOW, BUT YOU COULD PICK SOMEBODY.
THEN THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY, PLAIN SMITH GETS SWORN IN AND THE NEW PERSON GETS SWORN IN AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE TAKE SEATS AT THAT SAME TIME.
>> WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO SEND ME YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? I COULD CONTACT THAT PERSON, MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
>> THEN WE CAN HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST MEETING IN APRIL.
DO YOU LIKE THEM TO ATTEND THE MEETING ALSO?
>> IF THEY REALLY WANT IT, THEY SHOULD BE HERE.
>> I'LL SAY THIS, MISS SIMMONS. ONE THING THAT ALWAYS STANDS OUT FOR ME IS I ATTENDED MEETINGS FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS BEFORE I EVER RAN, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT AT THE TIME MAYOR SYLVESTER WAS VERY HELPFUL IN SWAYING ME TO RUN FOR THE SEAT BECAUSE I WAS ALREADY THERE AND I ALREADY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
[LAUGHTER] IT REALLY MEANS SOMETHING WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND YOU LISTEN TO THE MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU'RE MORE PREPARED WHEN YOU SIT HERE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE ALL THE TIME AND STEPPING IN TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU NEED ME, I'M HERE.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T CHEERLEADED, YOU NEVER CAME TO ANY OF US AND SAID, HEY, I'LL DO IT.
YOU JUST KEPT COMING, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> COUNCIL, I THINK, DO WE HAVE GUIDANCE?
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ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THE GUIDANCE GIVEN TO MICHELLE?>> MICHELLE, YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED?
>> THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL ]
I REALLY QUICKLY WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, HECTOR, FOR GOING TO CAREER DAY AND REPRESENTING THE CITY ON THAT, AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE.I ATTENDED AS WELL, AND IT WAS VERY WELL DONE BY THE AISD.
THEN ALSO, THE KYLE, THANK YOU FOR GETTING THOSE GUYS IMMEDIATELY ON BACK THERE, AND YOU AND HECTOR WORKING TOGETHER AND GETTING THAT AREA CLEANED UP PRETTY QUICKLY.
IT WAS NICE TO SEE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
>> MAYOR MENTIONED THE WORD CLEANUP.
I'M NOT GOING TO POINT OUT ANY PARTICULAR ADDRESSES, BUT OF LATE, I HAVE HEARD CONSIDERABLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT PLACES THAT ARE PRETTY TRASHY.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S A TOUGH JOB TO GO CONFRONT FOLKS, BUT PEOPLE HAVING CARS PARKED IN THEIR YARD MONTH ON AND MONTH OUT.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN PARKED AROUND CLOSE BY HERE.
I PARKED THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THEN TURN THE ENGINE OVER ONE TIME.
TIRES ARE ON THE GROUND, THE RIMS ARE ON THE GROUND.
THAT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST OUR NORMS. WE WANT OUR TOWN TO LOOK NICE, WE NEED TO APPROACH SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE THAT MUCH AND TELL THEM, YOU NEED TO CARE ABOUT THE WAY YOU PLACE IT.
>> MY COMMUNICATION WOULD BE, WE IN THE BUDGET MEETING DISCUSSED EITHER ELIMINATING OR REDUCING.
THERE WAS CONCERTS IN THE PARK, AND THEN THERE WAS JULY 4.
WE HAD DISCUSSED ABOUT, I GUESS SEEING IF THERE WAS A LIMITED VERSION OF CONCERT IN THE PARK WE COULD DO THIS YEAR OR WHETHER IT NEEDS TO ROLL TO I GUESS THE FISCAL YEAR OF NEXT YEAR OR MAYBE OCTOBER, STARTING SOMETIME AFTER OCTOBER, WHICH WILL BE THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
THE OTHER ONE WAS, AGAIN, JULY 4, SO I'D LIKE AN UPDATE BECAUSE I'M SURE WE NEED TO START MAKING SOME DECISIONS ON THOSE IF WE CAN EVEN DO IT, AND IF NOT, THEN PREPARE TO TELL THE PUBLIC WE CAN'T.
>> I THINK THAT IF I WILL GET MARTHA TO COME NEXT TIME, DO AN UPDATE, BUT I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS THREE CONCERTS IN THE PARK THIS SPRING, NOTHING IN THE FALL, AND THEN TRY TO GET INCREASED SPONSORSHIP OR REDUCE THE FIREWORKS TIME TO A LOWER LEVEL.
>> THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT, BUT I JUST WANT AN UPDATE.
>> WE'LL GET AN UPDATE. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I THINK I REMEMBER.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I REMEMBER IT.
>> WELL, WE'LL GET YOU AN UPDATE.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU ALL.
WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7:53.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.