[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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>> HEY, IT'S 12:00. ARE YOU READY?
>> LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A FORUM.
WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE UPDATED ABIGAIL AREAS PARK DESIGN.
THE SECOND ITEM IS DISCUSSION ON THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND THE THIRD ITEM IS RENAMING OF A FIELD AT BATES PARK.
ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT, LAUREN?
>> YES. I CAN GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
[1. Discussion and possible action on updated Abigail Arias Park schematic designs.]
AS YOU RECALL, WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS [INAUDIBLE] DESIGN FOR ABIGAIL AREAS.WE TOOK THE INPUT THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM PARKS BOARD, CITY COUNCIL, OUR TOWN HALL MEETING, ANYTHING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THE AREAS FAMILY THEMSELVES, TO PROVIDE AN UPDATED ONE.
WE HAD TWO DESIGNS PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'VE STARTED TO COMBINE THOSE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO ONE DESIGN.
WE'RE BRINGING IT BEFORE THE BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED, SOON PASS IT OVER TO BOARD SO THEY CAN TALK THROUGH WHAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK AND WE'LL START TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE APPROACH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
BASED ON THE CURRENT PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A PHASE APPROACH AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.
THIS WILL START TO BREAK DOWN THAT WHAT IS THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN, WHAT IS PHASE 1 APPROACH, AND WHAT IS THE PROBABLE COST THAT'S GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.
>> THANK YOU GUYS. WE NEED RENTAL AGAIN AND COMBINE THE CONCEPT A AND CONCEPT B TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND CONCERNS AND THE LIKES AND DISLIKES OF BOTH CONCEPTS.
OVERALL, IT WAS MOSTLY TO CREATE A PARKING LOT THAT WAS MORE APPROACHABLE IN REGARDS TO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE LOCATION AND THE MAINTENANCE AND ALL AND THAT DERIVES A LOT OF THAT ASPECT OF IT.
BUT THE REST OF IT WAS TO CREATE THE ORGANIC FORM AND WITH THE VISIBILITY AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS ADDRESSED AND MOSTLY IN THE CONCEPT A, BUT SOME OF IT WAS BROUGHT IN FROM CONCEPT B AS WELL.
WHAT WE DID WAS CREATE A PARKING THAT IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE, REDUCE THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES AS WELL.
WE HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE THAT'S STILL ALIGNED WITH THE DRIVEWAY ACROSS THE STREET AND CREATING A LOOP APPROACH FOR THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AS WELL.
BUT THERE'S ALSO FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT CONNECTION TO STILL GO TO ANDERSON ROAD.
IF THAT EVER HAPPENS, IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
WE HAVE ALSO STAYED THROUGH THE CORNER FOR THE MOST PART TO ALLOW FOR THE BIG OPEN SPACE AND THE BEST USABILITY OF THE REST OF THE PARK WITH THE PARKING LOT TO CONTINUE TO STAY GENERALLY CENTRALIZED ON THE ENTIRE SITE DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IF POSSIBLE.
THE RESTROOM AND PAVILION IS CURRENTLY THE SAME SIZE ON THE MASTER PLAN, BUT IT IS RELOCATED TO WHERE IT ALLOWS FOR THE CLEAR VIEWS OF THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND AND SPLASH TAD AREA AND EVEN THE ENTIRE PARK SPACE, REALLY.
THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE MORE OF A RENTABLE SPACE AND JUST THE EVERY DAY SPACE USE AS WELL.
CAR VISIBILITY TO THE RESTROOM WHERE THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH NEW PARENTS LETTING THEIR KIDS GO TO THE RESTROOM WITHOUT HAVING SOME PHYSICAL BARRIER IN THE RESTROOM.
>> WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THAT PAVILION COMPARED TO THE ONE OUT AT LAKESIDE?
>> LAKESIDE IS REALLY BIG. [OVERLAPPING]
I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T RECALL THE SIZE OF THE PAVILION.
I DID HAVE IT ON MY NOTES BEFORE, BUT IT WAS LIKE 150 FEET PLUS BY 50 OR SEVEN FEET.
THAT WAS THE LAKESIDE RESTROOM AND PAVILION.
THIS ONE HERE IS 30 FEET WIDE BY 20+40,
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SO 60 FEET IN LENGTH.AS WE ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE, WE'LL GO OVER THE IMPACT OF THE COST ESTIMATE AS WELL.
MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO SHRINK SOME MORE, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE IT AS [INAUDIBLE].
>> IN REGARDS TO THAT, THE PAVILION AND THE RESTROOM ARE TWO DIFFERENT SIZE COMPONENTS, CORRECT? OR ARE WE TALKING THE FULL.
>> THAT'S THE FULL ONE. THE RESTROOM ITSELF IS CURRENTLY, AND THAT'S GOING TO LIKELY SHRINK SOME MORE ONCE WE GET INTO THE NUMBER OF CELLS THAT WE REALLY NEED.
BUT CURRENTLY THE WIDTH OF THE OVERALL BUILDING STRUCTURE IS 30 FEET.
THE RESTROOM IS 30 BY 20 FEET WIDE, AND THEN THE PAVILION ITSELF IS 30 BY 40 FEET.
>> EXAMPLE THAT I RECALL CORRECTLY.
THINK ABOUT THE STAGE AREA FOR LAKESIDE.
THAT IS BASICALLY THE SIZE OF THE PAVILION AREA.
THE OVERLOOK AREA IS A LARGER FOOTPRINT.
THE FRONT SIDE IS THE STAGE AREA, SO THE STAGE AREA IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE APPROXIMATE SIZE.
COMPARABLE AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
>> YES. THAT FRONT STAGE AREA WOULD BE SIMILAR AS FAR AS THIS GOES.
>> BUT STILL A GOOD SIZE FOR SMALL GATHERINGS AND THE ABILITY TO RENT IT FOR SMALL PARTIES AS WELL.
>> IT'S A LOT LESS WALKING TOO FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THE PAVILION.
ACTUALLY BETTER. WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT EXPANSION OF THE PARKING LOT, IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND IT, YOU HAVE THAT IN MIND, YOU SAY?
>> CURRENTLY, THE DAS NUMBER 25 IS A POSSIBLE CONNECTION TO IT.
WE DIDN'T GO INTO ADDITIONAL PARKING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ROOM FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND THE PARKING ITSELF.
BUT WHAT WE EXPLORED WAS THE CONNECTION FROM THIS PARKING TO ANDERSON ROAD TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES AND ACTIVATE THE REST OF THEM.
>> THAT'S IN THE FEATURE POTENTIAL DESIGN.
>> I COULDN'T SEE BUT THAT 27 THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE IN THE WAY OR SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> TWENTY-SEVEN, WELL, WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF FOOD TRUCK PARKING AREA WITH POSSIBLY SOME WEEKEND MARKET OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT'S WHAT THAT AREA WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR.
BUT WHEN WE RECEIVED THE DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DIFFERENT AMENITIES DID NOT GET LEFT INTO THIS POSSIBLY FUTURE PHASE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN, WANTED TO HAVE THEM ALL INTO THE CURRENT SPACE.
WHAT WE DID WAS NUMBER 20 DOWN HERE IS A SPACE FOR FOOD TRUCK PARKING OPTION.
ALSO, AND IF YOU HAD A GREAT POINT WHERE IT COULD POSSIBLY BE A MAINTENANCE VEHICLE PARKING AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT WASTING ALL THE SPACE OF THE DRIVE IN THERE THAT'S FORMING ONE SIDE, WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY GET MUCH OF THE PARKING THERE ANYWAY.
WE REUSED THAT SPACE FOR PARALLEL PARKING FOR THOSE OPTIONS.
THAT'S WHERE NUMBER 27, IT'S REALLY A SPACE FOR WHERE YOU CAN EITHER HAVE AN EXPANDED PLAZA SPACE, AN EXPANDED PARKING AREA.
THERE'S A REALLY NICE OPEN AREA WHERE THE DRIVE INN THAT CAN BE TURNED INTO SOME PARKING IT'S [INAUDIBLE]
>> JUST TO GO INTO THE REST OF THE PARK, WE KEPT THE FIRMING.
WE KEPT THE LARGER EXPANSE OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
I THINK IT'S 0.31 MILES CURRENTLY AS THE LOOP ITSELF.
WE BROUGHT IN THE CONCEPT B HAD THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE LABYRINTH.
THE LABYRINTH WAS ON THE OUTER PARCEL AND NOW WE HAVE IT ALL WITHIN THIS PARCEL.
WE'RE TUCKED IN BETWEEN THE NATURAL TREE LINE,
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AND IT COULD BE PART OF THE ROCK.THE JOGGING TRAIL AND YOU CAN JUST STEP OFF OF THAT AND DO THE LABYRINTH AS WELL.
THE NUMBER 21 HAS THE AMPHITHEATER SPACE, WHICH THAT WAS ONE OF THE AMENITIES THAT WAS REALLY ENJOYED, ESPECIALLY BY THE FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL.
THE IDEA OF HAVING A SPACE FOR GATHERING, ALSO KIDS TO DO THEIR OWN MINI PERFORMANCES AND MINI STAGE [INAUDIBLE] IN THAT SENSE.
IT'S CONNECTED STILL TO THE PLAYGROUND AREAS.
THE PLAYGROUND ITSELF TO THE DARK BLUE NINE AND EIGHT AREAS.
THAT WOULD BE THE 3-5 AND 5-12 PLAY SPACE, AND THE LIGHTER BLUE FIVE WOULD BE THE SPLASH PAD AREA WITH THE VENTABLE CABANAS ALONG THE EDGES.
THEN THE NUMBER 10, THE LARGE BROWN AREA WITH THE EXISTING TREES WOULD BE THE PICNIC AREAS, WHICH WE WERE JUST ON SITE TO CONFIRM SOME OF THESE TREES, THERE'S A LOT OF TALLOW IN THAT SPACE, SO WE'D HAVE TO BEFORD SOME OF THOSE SPACES, BUT THERE'S SOME REALLY NICE TREES THERE AS WELL THAT WILL BE PRESERVED AND USED FOR ADDITIONAL SHADES.
THE LAST ONE, NUMBER 3, IT'S RIGHT AT THE ENTRY AND WE'RE NUMBER 11 AND 17 AND ALL THAT WHOLE SPACE RIGHT THERE.
NUMBER 3 IS A GATEWAY ENTRANCE TO THE PARK.
FROM THERE, YOU CAN DECIDE TO GO INTO THE PLAY AREA OR YOU CAN DO THE SMALL GARDEN WALK.
BUT THAT NUMBER 11, THE GARDEN WALK WITH DECOMPOSED GRANITE TRAIL AND YOU CAN MEANDER THROUGH THE NATIVE SPACES AND SIT DOWN AND RELAX OR IT COULD ALSO HAVE SOME EDUCATIONAL CLIMATES THROUGHOUT THAT SPACE AS WELL.
THE LITTLE STRIKES AT THE NUMBER 3 HAVE THE ABILITY TO EQUIP THE ONLY PAVING PAVER AREA, THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME ENGRAVED DONOR PAVERS.
DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT SPACE TO CREATE THAT.
NOT A MEMORIAL, BUT THAT REFLECTION SPACE.
WE HAVE THE STATE OF PLAZA RUN IN THAT SPACE WITH THE FUTURE EXPANSION TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> DO YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THE BIRMING SIDE OF THINGS? I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE BIG REALITIES?
>> YEAH, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE THAT WANTED TO CREATE SPACES THAT HAVE MORE RELIEVE MORE TOPOGRAPHY.
THOSE ARE ENHANCED THROUGH THE TRAIL LOOP, BUT ALSO CREATING SPACES IN BETWEEN THE TRAILS WHERE YOU'RE NOT JUST WALKING, I MEAN, NOT DRAMATIC.
NO JUST WALKING IN AN UNDULATING TRAIL, YOU ALSO HAVE SPACES WHERE THE EARTH IS HIGHER ON OTHER SIDE NOT THE OTHER.
THEN ON THE NUMBER 17 AND 12 IN THE CENTER, THERE'S ALSO SOME SPACES THERE WHERE THAT IS MORE NATIVE GRASSES AND PLANTINGS.
THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY CREATING EVEN HIGHER RELIEF ON THAT END BECAUSE IT'S NOT SATED IT'S NATIVE PLANTINGS THAT WOULD BE COVERING THOSE FIRMS. YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ENGULFED IN THAT SPACE.
ONE LAST FIRM IS AT THE PLAYGROUND, AND THAT WOULD BE A FIRM SLIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT AS WELL.
I BELIEVE WE CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT WAS ADDRESSED. [OVERLAPPING]
THANK YOU OF CAPTURING ALL OF OUR INPUT.
>> THAT'S ONE PART. [LAUGHTER] WE ALL KNEW THIS IS COMING.
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>> THAT MASTER PLAN ONE WAS THE PRICE TAG OF 4.5 MILLION?
I THINK YOU CAN TELL IN THE GRAPHIC.
WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE PROPOSED PHASE 1 OPTION WITHIN THE BUDGET IS TO, ONE, ALLOW FOR ALL THE MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARKS REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT THE TOP ITEMS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
WHAT THAT LEAVES IS THE PAVILION AND RESTROOM WITH THE SPLASH PATTERN AND THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
SPLASH PAD AND PLAYGROUND SPACE, AND THE REST IS MOSTLY TRAILS AND INFRASTRUCTURE-TYPE ELEMENTS.
>> HOW MUCH SMALLER IS THE PLAYGROUND AREA IN THE SLIDE AREA?
>> CURRENTLY IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE RECEIVING.
CURRENTLY FOR THE SPLASH PAD, WE HAVE ABOUT 3,000 SQUARE FEET ON THIS PHASE 1, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING NOW THAT WE HAVE A MORE DEFINED APPROACH.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE VENDORS TO PROVIDE US WITH WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WE CAN GET OUT OF THIS? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE SPLASH PAD IS THE REUSE OF THE WATER.
IT'S BASED ON THE GRANT AND JUST THE FACT THAT NOBODY WANTS TO JUST GET RID OF THE WATER IN A SENSE OF EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T COST VERY MUCH TO USE WATER, IT DOES COST SOME SENSE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF IT.
RE-USING THAT WATER, SO THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE AND USING IT FOR IRRIGATION AND ALL, IT DOES COME WITH THE PRICE TAG.
IT'S NOT AS EXTREME AS A RECIRCULATING SYSTEM DOWN ON THE HIGHER END, BUT IT DOES HAVE A PRICE TAG TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
HAVING TO CHALLENGE THAT OUT, BUT AT THE MOMENT, IT'S ABOUT 3,000 SQUARE FEET.
>> WELL, THE SPLASH PAD, LIKE I NOTICED LIKE SOME OF THE PARTS LIKE AN ORANGE CREEK, JUST NOT RUNNING ALL THE TIME.
IS THERE A PLAN CERTAIN HOURS THAT IT RUNS OR IS IT GOING TO RUN ALL THE TIME? WHAT IS THE THOUGHT ON THAT?
>> WE WOULD HAVE, SIMILAR HOURS, WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT REDUCED HOURS FOR THE SPLASH PAD VERSUS IT BEING WHEN THE PARK IS OPENED.
THE OTHER THING WE WOULD LOOK AT IS HAVING IT BE ON A TIMER OR ACTIVATED BY A BUTTON.
THAT WAY IF NOBODY IS THERE, IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED.
IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO RUN AND BE ON.
SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO GO ACTIVATE IT.
THEN IT RUNS FOR SO OFTEN, IT TURNS OFF, AND THEN SOMEBODY JUST GOES TO PUSH THE BUTTON AGAIN.
>> YOU ARE MEANING A PATH PARK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, A PATRON, A VISITOR CAN JUST GO UP AND PUSH THE BUTTON.
JUST AUTOMATICALLY TURN IT ON WHEN THEY GET THERE.
YOU JUST HAVE SIGNAGE THAT WOULD DIRECT THEM TO GO DO THAT.
WE'RE STILL EVALUATING WHAT SOME OF THOSE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN DO A COMBINATION APPROACH IF YOU KNOW THE PEAK USAGE, SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT THERE'S ALSO PROS TO HAVING IT TO THE PUSH BUTTON TO WHERE IT CAUSES EVERYBODY TO STOP FOR A SECOND, REHYDRATE, LOOK WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE.
WE'RE STILL EVALUATING WITH THAT.
BUT WE DON'T ENVISION IT BEING RUNNING CONSTANTLY.
>> ON THE PLAYGROUND SIDE, THAT ONE HAD A MUCH SMALLER BUDGET FOR THE INITIAL PHASE 1.
THAT ONE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ITSELF IS UNDETERMINED.
IT'S MORE OF THE TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE IN THERE.
WE HAVE THE MINIMUM 2-5, 5-12 AND SWING SET THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON HERE BASED ON WHAT THE TOP PRIORITIES WERE.
BUT THIS ONE COULD BE ONE THAT IS INSTEAD OF THE PUT IN PLACE SURFACING, IT COULD BE A MIXTURE OF PUT IN PLACE AND MULCH OR JUST LIKE MULCH, BUT THE KIDS, FIVE BAR MULCHING THAT LOOKS LIKE WE MULCH.
IT'S LIKELY GOING TO END UP MORE TOWARDS THAT SIDE OF IT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE AMENITIES ON THERE.
OUR APPROACH, OVERALL, IS TO DESIGN THESE PHASE
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1 ITEMS TO WHERE IF WHEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO EXPAND TO IT, THERE'S NO HAVING TO GO BACK AND DESTROY BUNCH OF THINGS.IT'LL SEAMLESSLY INTO THE NEXT PHASE.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT IS CURRENTLY REDUCED, IT WOULD BE THE PAVILION STRUCTURE ITSELF, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RESTROOM, HOW MANY STALLS WE REALLY NEED ON THAT, THAT MAYBE REDUCED AS WELL, BUT THE PAVILION ITSELF, WE HAVE IT AT 30 BY 25, SO A SMALLER FOOTPRINT IN ORDER TO KEEP IT WITHIN THAT.
I WILL BALANCE OUT A LOT MORE ONCE WE GET INTO THE CALCULATIONS OF THE ENGINEERING TO BE ESPECIALLY WITH THE QUANTITIES FOR THE SPLASH PAD.
YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE ITEMS OUT AS WELL WITH THE PARKING FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.
>> THE PARKING. THERE'S A SCREEN AREA DOWN HERE, SO WE MOVED ABOUT I THINK WE HAVE WE'RE DOWN TO 37 SPACES FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN HAD, I THINK, 49 SPACES.
THEN THAT PROPOSED AREA HERE WAS TO MAINTAIN THE LOOP THAT IS NECESSARY FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS WHILE STILL UTILIZING THE PARKING LOT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT MAKING A WASTED CONCRETE.
THAT IS THE APPROACH THAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK IN AND ADDITIONAL PARKING AS THE FUNDING GOES FORWARD COM.
>> ON THE PICNIC GROVE, THE NUMBER 10 UP THERE, THOSE WOULD BE LARGE TREES THAT ARE BROUGHT IN AND INSTALLED VERSUS EXISTING TREES.
>> CURRENTLY, THERE'S A FEW LARGE TREES, WHICH WE INTEND ON KEEPING, BUT THERE'S A FEW TALL TREES TOWARD THE BOTTOM OF THE GROVE THAT, BE SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY DID OR NEED TO COME OUT EITHER WAY.
WE WOULD HAVE TO A LARGER TREES ON THERE.
I WOULDN'T SAY COMING IN WITH A BIG TREE THAT.
THAT'S EXPENSIVE. BUT LARGER TREES THAN ON THE REST OF THE SITE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
>> BUT THAT IS CALCULATED INTO THE PHASE 1.
>> THEN THE 17, THAT AREA WOULD JUST BE GRASS WALKING PATHS VERSUS PAVED OR GRAVEL WALKING PATHS LIKE IT WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN?
>> SEVENTEEN ALL THE WAY DOWN.
WE HAVE THE NATIVE PLANTINGS AND THOSE WOULD BE MOSTLY WE'D HAVE TO REGRADE VERY LIKELY FOR THE DETENTION AND ALL THE CAPACITY OF THAT SALE.
THE THREE AREAS OR ACTUALLY THE TOP 217 TOP AND 17 AT THE BOTTOM WOULD BE NATURAL GRASSES. LOW MAINTENANCE.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THE LIGHTING GOT ELIMINATED.
>> JASON, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE AFTER DARK USAGE OF THIS PART?
>> IT WOULD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS ONE.
FOLLOWING THE TIMELINE, WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
THE STAFF ARE STILL REVIEWING FOR INPUT.
THAT PART PROBABLY WILL CHANGE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT BASED ON WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR PHASE 1 OF SOME AREAS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO READDRESS.
>> REFRESH MY MEMORY, WHAT IS WE WERE HAVING PERMIT LIGHTING FIXTURES, LIKE NORMAL STREET LIGHTING TYPE FIXTURES FOR TO BE IN THERE? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT MAYBE A COMMERCIAL SOLAR OPPORTUNITY AT LEAST IF NOT FOR THE WHOLE PART,
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MAYBE YOU STILL HAVE WALKING ROLL ACCESS, PAST A CERTAIN TIME BECAUSE ONCE WE GET INTO THE SEASON CHANGES, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DAYLIGHT SHIFTING TREMENDOUSLY AND HOW MANY EMPLOYED PEOPLE, ETC.BY THE TIME THEY'RE GETTING HOME, MAYBE IT'S 6:30, 07:00 IN THE EVENING WITH BLACK.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY ALONG AT LEAST MAYBE JUST WALKING TROLL? CAN WE MAKE CONSIDERATION FOR THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE MAYBE MORE ADULT USE THAT WOULD BE IN A SOLAR CAPACITY JUST TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN EXPLORE IT. WE HAVE THE SOLAR CAPACITY ONES OR SOLAR ONES AT FREEDOM PARK.
THAT IS A POSSIBILITY, WE HAVE SOME OF THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS OR SOLAR LIGHTS AS WELL.
I WOULD SAY PARKING LOT WOULD PROBABLY BE FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S THE SAFETY.
THAT GOES WITH IT, ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT THE USERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THEN THE TRAILS WOULD COME SECOND AFTER THAT.
WELL, WOULD FOLLOW AFTER THAT.
PARKING LOT AROUND THE AMENITIES FOR THE PAVILION WOULD BE A NECESSITY, AND THEN WE WOULD BRANCH OUT AND TEAR FROM THERE.
BUT SOLAR IS SOMETHING WE HAVE USED A ARBOR PARKS AND FORE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
>> YOU GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LEXI NOT HAVING LIGHTING?
>> IT IS HONESTLY HEAD TERMS. BUT THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED TO BE MORE OF A NATURE PARK.
WE DID NOT WANT TO ADD THE LIGHT POLLUTION TO GO WITH THAT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
IT'S NOT THE SAME FIELD THAT GOES WITH IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE WILDLIFE COMING THROUGH WHEN YOU HAVE A SPLASH PAD THAT'S ATTACHED TO IT.
[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED AS WELL. THEY'RE GOING TO COME AT NIGHT.
BUT IT IS YES, WE GET THEM FROM TIME TO TIME.
I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE GET A TON OF THEM.
PEOPLE INQUIRE ABOUT THEM, BUT WHEN WE EDUCATE THEM OF THE PURPOSE OF THE PARK, IT MAKES SENSE.
>> AS FAR AS THE PAVILION, YOU SAID THAT, OBVIOUSLY, RESTROOM SEPARATE ENTITIES, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THEY WON'T BE. NO. IT'S JUST A THINK ABOUT HOW LAKESIDE IS.
THE RESTROOMS WILL BASICALLY BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE PAVILION.
IDEALLY MOST LIKELY BE AROUND THE BACK SIDE OF IT.
>> YOU HAVE TO GO UNDER THAT WAS THE 15,15,15 FAR LOOKS LIKE THE RESTROOM USES, IS THAT WHAT IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE, FOR 15?
>> LAKESIDE IS SMALL LAKESIDE HAS FIVE STALLS, I THINK.
>> WELL, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
IT WAS SOMETHING ALONG THOSE ONES. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
>> I THINK IT'S 15, [OVERLAPPING] I DID THAT.
>> IS THERE VENTILATION IN THOSE RESTROOMS, SO TO SPEAK? THE AIR FLOW?
>> AS FAR AS THE RESTROOMS AND PAVILION, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE LAKESIDE STANDARDS.
>> THAT SIZE FLASH, 03,000 MANY KIDS, IS THAT MEAN CASE?
>> IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE TYPE OF AMENITIES THAT ARE PLACED IN THERE.
THEN THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO SEND OUT THAT WE HAVE MORE OF A DEFINED SPACE FOR THAT WE WANT TO WORK CLOSER WITH THE VENDORS TO DEFINE THOSE THINGS.
THAT THE MICRO PHASE AFTER PHASE 1.
>> AS FAR AS THE NEXT STEP IN HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
WE HAVE PRESENTATION TO COUNSEL IN MAY AND FOR THIS SAME DOCUMENT THAT BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING THE SITE AS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT PHASE 1 SHOULD BE AND GETTING THE COMMENTS AND ALL AND ADDRESSING THOSE, BUT GOING INTO THE MORE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN DEFINE THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS, HOW MANY CALLS, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE SPLASH PAD, THE MAXIMUM OR MAXIMUM REQUIREMENT OF THE PARKING SPACES TO GET ALL OF THOSE DEFINED.
THIS COST ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS TO GUIDE US THROUGH THAT NEXT PHASE.
IN THAT PHASE, WE WILL, REEVALUATE THE COST.
WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON EACH ITEM AS WELL.
WE'LL HAVE SOME ENGINEERING TO GO WITH THAT AS WELL SO WE CAN KEEP AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> SO LIKE ON ITEM 2 HERE ON THE TREE REMOVAL,
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YOU WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WAS LIKE 30?BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT TREE, I DID SOME SHOTS WERE REMOVED TREES.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY COLOR WE GET IS TEXAS.
>> WE WENT TO THE SITE TODAY TO SEE AND CHECK.
LIKE, DO I HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THESE TELE TREES, BUT THERE IN.
>> THEY'RE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. THERE'S TWO OF THEM THAT ALREADY FELL OVER.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH TELE TREES.
THEY GROW SO FAST IN THE BASIS, AND THEY'RE NOT SUSTAINABLE TO YOU FOR THE LONG TERM.
THEY'LL FALL OVER VERY QUICKLY.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE IN THE WAY OF AMENITY THOUGH.
>> CURRENTLY MANY OF THOSE ARE IN THE NUMBER 10.
YES, SO THEY WOULD IN ORDER TO CREATE THE PICNIC AREAS AND STUFF, WE STILL HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE SAT TREES AND BE THERE I DIDN'T FALL OVER BEFORE.
>> THAT MILL DOWN THAT THEY FALL OVER THEIR HOME.
>> ALSO THAT AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SPELLED OUT THERE, BUT THAT ALSO HAS PRE-PRESERVATION IN THAT LINE ITEM AS WELL.
FOR THE TREES CENTER WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING AND TAKING CARE OF PRESERVING THROUGHOUT THE FENCING THAT IT TAKES TO PRESERVE THEM DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND ALL THE TIME.
IT'S A LOT MORE TO THAT LINE ITEM THEN.
>> ANY MORE COMMENTS. ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
>> YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF SCALING IT DOWN, THE CRITICAL PARTS, THE LIGHTING BIG.
>> SCALING IT DOWN BEFORE I WAS ALL HERE.
[LAUGHTER] I WAS LIKE, I DID JUST THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE.
[LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE SCALED THE LEFT IN THE PLAYGROUND AREA.
YEAH, WHEN WE HAVE THE NEXT ONE THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING EARLIER, THE NEXT ONE THAT MIGHT BE SKILLED AS WELL WOULD BE THE INTERNAL TRAIL.
>> THIS WITHOUT ANY GRANTS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT BEEN INCLUDED.
THERE IS POTENTIAL ESSENTIALLY BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN ACTUALLY WE START TO GROW ON IT, THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] BUDGET FOR THIS NOW THOUGH.
>> BUT WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ANYTHING ELSE THEN, HAVE WE?
>> WE HAVE ONE GRANT THAT IS OUTSTANDING FOR ABOUT 150,000.
I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK ON THAT ONE.
THEN WE ARE WAITING ON THIS PIECE AND THEN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OR MAINLY THE MASTER PLAN, AND THEN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS GETTING MORE SPECIFIC, SO WE COULD GO OUT FOR SPONSORSHIP STUFF.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME NUMBERS THAT GO WITH IT AND A DESIGNS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT THAT FINAL PRODUCT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
THAT PART IS GOING TO HELP US TO EXPLORE THOSE ADDITIONAL SO FAR.
>> WHAT ARE WE OVER, AMILLION?
>> WE'RE ABOUT TWO MILLION OVER.
>> YES. LET ME ASK REAL QUICK WHAT THE FULL PLAN.
WAS STILL THAT SPACE THAT SARA WAS MENTIONING, WAS STILL KEEPING IT THAT SAME AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOT, 03,000 THAT IS THAT, OR IS THAT ALLOWING FOR MORE?
>> THE FULL PLAN; SO THE FIRST DOCUMENT YOU SAW THIS ONE?
>> THIS IS THE 4.6. THAT'S I THINK IT WAS 4.2-4.6 INCH?
>> YOU WON'T KNOW 100% UNTIL WE START GETTING CLOSER TO WE ACTUALLY GO OUT TO BID.
OBVIOUSLY, EVERYTHING CAN CHANGE.
WE COULD SAY TODAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE 4.6.
WE COULD COME BACK AND IT COULD BE SIX MILLION, OR IT COULD BE LESS FOR THAT.
THAT WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT.
>> IT'S USUALLY THE OTHER WAY, BUT SO THE 4.6 WOULD BE THAT FULL.
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>> WHEN DOES THIS GO TO COUNSEL? IN MAY YOU SAID?
>> MAY 13TH IS WHEN WE GO TO COUNSEL.
>> DO YOU ALL WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN? PHASE 1 WILL STILL HAVE WORK THROUGH COMMENTS TO REVIEW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING, BUT AS FAR AS THE MASTER PLAN.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCALE DOWN, MASTER PLAN.
>> THE BIG MASTER PLAN. WE WANT IT ALL.
>> YEAH, WE WANT IT ALL, BUT THE PHASE 1 WILL ALTER AND CHANGE BASE COMMENT.
THAT ONE, I WOULDN'T SAY IS AN OFFICIAL DONE DEAL YET.
THAT IS JUST THE FIRST PIECE THEY GAVE TO US AS WHERE THEY COULD WORK WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
THIS WAS TO HAVE COMMENTS ON SAVE 1, BUT WE WANT TO LOCK IN OUR OVERALL MASTER PLAN.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MASTER PLAN AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND. COMMENT OR QUESTION.
HAVE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE.
>> LOVE IT. IN INTEREST OF TIME, CLARE, IF WE CAN,
[3. Discussion and possible action on request made by Angleton Girls Softball Association to rename Field 4 at Bates Park.]
I SKIP TO ITEM 3, AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE US TIME THAT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TO GO TO THE ITEM 2.>> THAT'S ON PAGE 24, YOU ALL.
>> I CAN TELL ITEM 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REQUEST MADE BY ANGLEON GIRL SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION TO RENAME FIELD 4 AT BATES PARK.
AND SO AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE DO HAVE A PARKS AND FACILITY NAME OR POLICY AND SO WHEN THEY APPROACHED US ON THIS, WE STARTED THAT PROCESS.
WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER.
RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER WAS TO COMBAT IT THROUGH PARKS BOARD FIRST TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, AND THEN I WOULD TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THE FINAL SAY THAT GOES WITH THAT, AND SO THE REQUEST THAT'S MADE TODAY IS THE TRAGIC LOSS OF PEYTON BROWN.
SHE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN AGSA AND HAD BEEN FOR YEARS, AS WELL AS HER FAMILY AND SO THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT DOING A MEMORIAL FOR HER AND RENAMING FIELD 4, THE PEYTON BROWN, THAT WOULD INCLUDE TO PUT SIGNAGE ABOVE THE FIELDS NUMBER NAME AND ALSO DO HER JERSEY NUMBER OUT ON THE FENCE LINE OUT IN THE FIELD.
>> YOU DO HAVE BEFORE YOU THE NAMING RIGHTS AS FAR AS WHAT THE ADOPTED POLICY IS FOR THE CITY, HOW THAT ALIGNS WITH IT AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TALKS ABOUT IS THE INFLUENCE AND AGSA IS HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ON THIS.
TALK ABOUT WHY THIS WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PIECE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION ON WHAT YOU'LL THINK.
>> JUST A QUESTION. HAVE WE DONE THIS ON ANY FIELD, SOFTBALL OR BASEBALL?
>> WE DID ONE OR MANY BASEBALL FIELDS HAVE WE DONE?
>> I CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER, BUT IT'S MORE THAN ONE.
>> BUT WE'VE NOT DONE IT AT SOFTBALL FIELD.
>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF TIME THAT YOU CAN SAY, CORRECT, BUT NOT THAT I'M AWARE.
>> OUT THERE, BUT THAT WAS FOR THE FOUNDERS OF THE SOFTBALL IN ATON.
IT HAD A BUNCH OF DIFFER NAMES THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THAT.
>> POLICY WISE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THIS. CORRECT/
>> THIS ONE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE EASIEST WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS THIS IS A SUB FACILITY.
THE SUB FACILITY HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PART OF IT VERSUS IT BEING LIKE A CITY FACILITY.
THINK ABOUT THE NAME OF THE PARK VERSUS THE NAME OF A SUB FACILITY,
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AND SO THAT'S LIKE THIS PART.>> ABIGAIL IS THE FULL FACILITY VERSUS A SUB FACILITY.
>> BECAUSE HER UNCLE WAS PART OF THE BOARD AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND SHE WAS OUT THERE ALL THE TIME TOO. THAT'S WHY WHEN I SEEN.
WHAT THE HECK? WHAT YOU GO DOING TO HERE.
>> WHAT DID YOU WORK TO GIVE THE STORY.
>> PEYTON BROWN WAS ON MY TO THREE YEARS.
SHE'S BEEN A BIG INFLUENCE ON THIS
>> PRIOR TO THAT, SHE WAS ON MY TEAM [LAUGHTER] AND THEN SHE WENT HAD MORE ADVANCED TEAM SO SHE GOT PAST OUR TEAM.
SHE DIDN'T ACTUALLY AGED OUT OF MY TEAM.
WENT TO HIS TEAM, AND SHE'D BEEN ON THAT TEAM EVER SINCE.
THEN THEY JUST KEEP AGING OUT.
>> WE WERE SELECTING THREE YEARS. KID WAS AWESOME.
EVER SINCE HAS HAPPENED HAS BROUGHT LOT OF PEOPLE WE TOGETHER.
WHAT DID WE THOUGHT? THE REALLY GET TO US AND COME TALK TO US.
THAT'S ABOUT THE SOFTBALL COMMUNITY REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN SOFTBALL, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT SOFTBALL PEOPLE.
THEY REALLY TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. THIS IS REALLY BROAD.
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE FROM OTHER TOWNS CALLING US.
COMING TO TALK TO US, WHERE WE GO.
THEY GIVE US CERTAIN CONDOLENCES STILL TO THIS DAY.
MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A TURN THIS WEEKEND WE PLAYED IN.
WE GOT THIRD, AND WE HAD TEAMS CAN TALK TO US.
GIVE THE CONDOLENCES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, AND 12 YEARS GIRL'S BEEN AROUND.
SHE CHANGED A LOT OF LIVES IN 12 YEARS OF MOST WHO WOULD DO THE WHOLE LIFE.
I TOOK IT FOR GRANTED HER BEING A MATERNITY.
YOU KNOW, WE MISSED HER TO DATE.
WE STARTED SCHOLARSHIP FUND THREE YEARS AGO FROM OUR TEAM.
WE DO TERM EVERY YEAR, SEEKING AMOUNT OF MATTER OF FACT COMING UP IN TWO WEEKS.
WE HAVE CHANGED OUR SCHOLARSHIP FUND NOW TOO, NAME UP TO HER.
THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND DOESN'T GO TOWARDS SOMEBODY FROM.
WE DO IS WE GIVE A SCHOLARSHIP FUND OUT TO MULTIPLE SENIORS AND PLAY SOFTBALL AT A HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY COME TALK TO US AND THEY COME TO VISIT OUR GIRLS, AND NOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS AT HER NAME, WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO PARENTS THESE KIDS ABOUT HER.
WE DON'T WANT HER NAME TO GO LOST AND THE PARENTS THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
IT'S BEEN HARD AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TRY TO GET TO THIS.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNOWN THEIR FAMILY OR THEIR BROTHER PLAYS BASEBALL?
>> IF I MAY ON THE COMMUNITY ELEMENT, WHICH, I THINK WOULD BE JUST EVEN FOR PUBLIC RECORD WITH THIS IT'S LOOKING AT THE SUB FACILITIES AND DOING THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT, LOOK FROM SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTOOD WHAT'S TRANSPIRED HERE AND THE EFFECT THAT IT'S HAD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY AND HER INFLUENCE MEMORY.
NOT ONLY HAS THIS BEEN A COMMUNITY GLUE, AND SOFTBALL COMMUNITY WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S JUST BEEN WILDFIRE THROUGH EVERY EXTRACURRICULAR PARENT OUT THERE WHO UNDERSTANDS.
THERE'S BEEN ALL THESE DIFFERENT LEAGUES, ALL THESE DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS WHO HAVE NOW SHOWN RECOGNITION AS FAR AS PEYTON GOES AND THE EFFECT THAT IT'S HAD ON THE SCHOOL ON ALL THE CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL.
WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, BUT FOR PEYTON, BECAUSE IT WASN'T A LONG FIGHT, IT WAS A VERY QUICK.
YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE THE ACCUMULATION, BUT IT WAS THERE.
FROM BEING A SOFTBALL PARENT MYSELF AND SEEING THE IMPACT AND EVEN BEING A SOFTBALL PARENT THAT GOT TO WITNESS PEYTON AND THAT LEADERSHIP THAT SHE HAD,
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YOU COULDN'T HELP BUT BE DRAWN, YOU KNOW, THAT DIRECTION AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER SOFTBALL KIDS IS, PEYTON BECAME ONE OF THE GIRLS THAT YOU WENT AND TOOK YOUR GIRLS TO WATCH PLAY AND THE TEAM.FOR US, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A YES ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THE IMPACT AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO MORALIZE HER.
>> THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ME CRY.
>> IT'S BEEN TOUGH TO ALL OF US. IT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPTED.
>> DO WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE OF NAMING EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE ACTION OR JUST AS A WHOLE?
>> THIS IS MERELY A RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO COUNSEL.
COUNSEL IS THE FINAL SAY ON THIS AND SO IF YOU WANT TO BE SPECIFIC, YOU CAN, WE'LL BRING THE SAME FORMAT AND EVERYTHING TO THEM, BUT IT'S THEIR DETERMINATION, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
>> I THINK I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE NUMBER ON THE BACK OF THE PILL THAT PEOPLE MIGHT REFER TO THAT AS STILL 22. NO, THEY WON'T.
>> THEY GO BY THE NUMBER SO WE'RE GOING TO THE NAME UNDERNEATH THERE.
BROWNFIELD, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THERE. THAT'S ON THE FIELD.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU DO WITH THAT.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, FROM DEER PARK FRIENDS WITH BAY CITY SANTA FE PASS, EL CAMPO.
>> THERE ARE STILL ON THE FIELD WITH A NUMBER.
>> ON THE BACK THEY KNOW WHAT 22 IS MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING UP THAT WE'VE BEEN AROUND, BEEN AROUND PEOPLE ENOUGH.
I SAY AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE TERMS IN OUR LINE SHEET.
WE STILL HAVE 22 ON AN SHEET SUBSTITUTE AND NOT EVEN TELLING THE OTHER TEAMS FROM THOSE TOWNS OTHER THAN THE TWO TEAMS ONE WAS FROM AUSTIN AND ONE WAS FROM ATON WE HAD TO EXPLAINED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYONE KNOWS.
>> I FEEL LIKE EVEN IF THERE WAS A MISTAKE THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONING WHY DID IT SAY FOUR HERE BUT SAID 22 THERE AUTOMATICALLY GETS TO TELL PAPER SORTS.
THAT'S JUST EVEN MORE, IT'S MORE OF A REASON YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.
>> MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REQUEST MADE BY THE ANGLETON GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION TO RENAME FIELD FOUR BATES PARK?
>> I CAN THEN CHECK IN. TAKE A VOTE IN FAVOR OF RENAMING BASED ON, I GUESS THE REQUEST HERE AT THE ANGLETON GIRLS ASSOCIATION, SAY AYE.
>> AIL OPPOSED. I THINK EVERYBODY SAID AYE SO THERE'S NO OPPOSED.
>> WHEN THIS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.
>> THEY HAVE THE OFFICIAL VOTE, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
>> IF THERE'S ANYTHING, DO WE NEED TO GO THERE AND EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO THEM? WELL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING NEEDED LIKE A SIGN MADE OR ANYTHING, WE'LL DO ALL.
>> WE'LL GOING TO GET ALL THAT DONE.
>> WE'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.
>> I THINK JUST WHAT YOU'LL REALLY HAD HERE AS FAR AS, WHAT Y'ALL'S INTENTIONS AND PLAN WERE, I THINK YOU WOULD PRESENT JUST THE EXACT SAME WAY TO COUNSEL.
>> IT BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID HERE.
I'LL BRING IT BEFORE COUNSEL STARTS THE CONVERSATION IF YOU WANT TO TALK AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN, BUT NOT TO SAY YOU HAVE TO, BUT IT CAN HELP.
>> HONESTLY, IT IS GOING TO BE MEAN MORE COMING FROM THOSE WHO HAD THAT RELATIONSHIP THAN BRING EVERYBODY [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> HONESTLY, THAT WOULD BE SO BEAUTIFUL.
>> THAT WOULD SHOW THE SUPPORT THAT GOES WITH IT.
>> BUT IF YOU CHANGE ANY LIKE CITY DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT WE YOU ALL USE.
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IT'S NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.YOU SAID YOU'RE STILL HAVE 400.
IT'S NOT TO COST THE CITY ANY MONEY AT ALL.
>> NOTHING AT ALL. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING.
>> WE'RE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING.
>> MOST LIKELY BE THE MAY 13 MEETING.
>> SO 22. WHAT COLOR, WHAT'S A TEAM NAME?
>> TEXAS CAOTIC, AND WHAT COLOR?
>> RED AND BLUE OR WHITE. THEY WERE MORE RED AND BLUE.
THE FIELD OF PURPLE BECAUSE OF ME YOU CAN'T MISS YOU SEE.
WE HARD FOR THOSE, THEY FOUGHT HARD FOR THOSE BECAUSE WE HAD HER AND THEN WE DID WEAR.
THE LAST TIME SHE GOT TO WEAR, WE WON AND AS A MATTER OF [INAUDIBLE] ON SUNDAYS, BUT SHE SAID I WEAR WEAR ON SATURDAYS.
WE WIN WE WORE ON SATURDAYS ON WARM AND WE WAR ON SUNDAYS.
WE WON STANDING OUT ROUGH ON SATURDAYS.
YOU GOT TO ME HER YOU'RE LUCKY. SHE WAS A REALLY GOOD KID.
[2. Discussion on the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton, Texas, Chapter 17 - Parks & Recreation developed in 1965.]
OF POSSIBLE ACTION DISCUSSION.SAY ACTUAL DISCUSSION ON CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR CITY ANGLETON, TEXAS, CHAPTER 17, PARKS AND RECREATION DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPED IN 1965.
YOU ALL ARE FULLY AWARE OF THIS.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO GO THROUGH AND REVISE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT AND WE ARE BASICALLY AT THAT FINAL STAGE OF, I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE'RE LOOKING TO UPDATE CHANGE, DO ALL THOSE.
THIS IS A CLEAN DOCUMENT TO START TO REVIEW TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK OR COMMENT.
THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GO THROUGH.
IT WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS ONCE IT GOES INTO THE OFFICIAL ORDINANCE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FORMATTING THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED FROM THERE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE VERBIAGE, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE HERE IS BASICALLY WHAT WILL GO IN.
HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THE CAVEAT THAT GOES WITH THAT IS IT STILL NEEDS TO GO BEFORE LEGAL FOR REVIEW.
THAT'S KIND OF NEXT STEPS IN THAT PROCESS IS WE'LL SEND IT OVER TO LEGAL AND THEY WILL START TO PUT THEIR EYES ON IT, SEE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON THEIR END.
THEN IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR OFFICIAL REVIEW.
IT WOULD ALSO GO OUT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT.
WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK AND INPUT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WE HAD SOME OLD ONES THAT, HOW DID YOU DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE NEW?
>> PRETTY MUCH STARTED FROM GROUND ZERO.
THE TASK FORCE WENT THROUGH WITH THE STAFF AND STARTED TO EVALUATE AND LOOK AT WHAT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES WERE, WHAT ISSUES WE HAVE OR THINGS THAT ARE SHOULD BE OR WEREN'T TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE BABING.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SMOKING, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
ORDINANCES THAT ARE FROM 1965 DON'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE COMPRISED FROM THERE.
DEFINITION WAS A BIG ONE OF WHAT DOES EACH THING REPRESENT? THAT HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.
GOING THROUGH AND UPDATING THAT,
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AUTHORITY WAS ANOTHER ONE.WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO PUT THESE THINGS IN PLACE OR TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEM OR WHO IS THE REPORTING ENTITY? WE'VE EVOLVED IN POSITION.
VERY EARLY ON, THERE WASN'T AS LARGE OF A DEPARTMENT AS WE HAVE NOW, AND SO IT'S EVOLVED INTO HAVING THE RECREATION DIVISION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND SO IT HELPED TO CAPTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A COMPLETELY ENCOMPASSING PROCESS FOR IT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THINGS DON'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT.
EXAMPLE IS THIS REFERENCES STANDARDS OF CARE FOR LIKE OUR YOUTH PROGRAMMING.
EACH YEAR WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND RE UP THAT.
I JUST WENT TO COUNCIL LAST WEEK ON STANDARDS OF CARE BEING UPDATED, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REFERENCED IN HERE THAT WON'T NECESSARILY CHANGE.
THAT GOES EVERY YEAR FOR RENEWAL.
IF THERE IS A NEED FOR A CHANGE, IT WILL.
IF OUR RATIOS CHANGE FROM 1-10 TO 1-8 WILL HAVE TO BE UPDATED ON THE ANNUAL BASIS.
BUT THIS IS LOOKING AT THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF OUR ORDINANCES AND HOW THAT WAS OUTLINED AND DEVELOPED THAT TRIED TO A STREAMLINE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THAT WAS THE APPROACH OF REALLY AS DAVID MENTIONED, KIND OF GUTTING IT BECAUSE THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT ORDINANCES IS ANYTIME SOMETHING NEW IS ADDED, AND I ALWAYS THINK IT'S ADDED AT THE END OF SOMETHING.
WHAT IT REFERS TO MIGHT BE MORE AT THE BEGINNING, AND SO ORDINANCES START TO.
>> THAT'S OKAY. ORDINANCES START TO LOOK A LITTLE STRANGE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFEREN.
IT'S KIND OF A REWRITE, BUT THE MAJORITY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT STAYED THE SAME.
IF YOU ALL RECALL FROM THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT IT, WE HAD DONE THE ONE THAT HAD THE STRIKE THROUGHS AND THE UPDATES.
THIS IS JUST A CLEAN VERSION TO GIVE YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT STRIKE THROUGHS, CROSS STYLE TRADITIONS, DIFFERENT COLORS, ALL THAT.
>> SOMEWHERE IN THE EDITING OF THIS, WE LEFT OUT A FEW WORDS UNDER MINORS AND CHILDREN, AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE SHEET OF PAPER AND LEAVE.
IT SHOWS WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THE WAY WE WROTE IT THERE BECAUSE WE LEFT OUT A FEW WORDS IN THERE. \.
>> THEN ALSO DOWN WE STARTED TO WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT ELECTRONIC BIKES AND SCOOTERS, AND WE HAD THAT IN BOLD AND THEN NOTHING AFTER IT.
>> BUT WE ACTUALLY COVERED THAT WE ADDRESSED THAT UNDER MOTOR VEHICLE WHERE WE DESCRIBED THEM AS A MOTOR VEHICLE.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHICH PAGE THAT IS ON?
FIVE OF THE ORDINANCE 14 OF THE PACKET OF THE DRAFT?
>> YEAH. IT'S STILL A DRAFT, BUT THIS ISN'T THE OFFICIAL.
>> JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME OTHER JUST MAKING [OVERLAPPING] SOME OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> THIS IS WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
BECAUSE IT IS A VERY LARGE DOCUMENT.
DAVID, IN REGARDS TO THAT, WE ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT IN PAGE 11.
BICYCLES, WE TALK ABOUT AN ELECTRIC BIKES ALSO CONSIDERED BICYCLE FULL OPERA AND PEDALS.
SO THAT REFERENCE IT ELSEWHERE AS WELL.
>> IT JUST NEEDS TO BE REMOVED THERE. YEAH.
WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE THAT I WAS MENTIONING? WHICH PAGE DO YOU REFERENCE? THAT'S 14. THIS WAS PAGE 15.
>> I THINK WHEN WE GOT DOWN THERE TO THE PERMITS AND SPECIAL EVENT STUFF IS WHERE THE TASK FORCE KIND OF DECIDED THAT YOU AND MEGAN NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO.
>> YES. WELL, I KNOW WE UPDATED SOME OF IT BECAUSE WE CHANGED A FEW PIECES OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME THAT WEREN'T STRIKE THROUGHS.
IT DIDN'T PULL IT WHEN IT DID LIKE OUR EDITS, WHEN I DID A CLEAN VERSION OF IT. I DIDN'T EVERYTHING.
>> YES. RIGHT AFTER THE DRONES SECTIONS WHERE THERE'S SOME INCOMPLETE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT MENTIONS [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S LIKE USE LANGUAGE FROM THE NEW SPECIAL TO HAVE THAT ON PAGE 14 UNDER THE LANGUAGE FROM THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT OR HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT?
>> THAT IS JUST REFERRING TO IT BECAUSE THAT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED.
THAT'S PART OF THE ONE THAT HASN'T, LIKE THAT NEW PERMIT HASN'T OFFICIALLY BEEN ADOPTED, SO IT HASN'T GONE INTO PLAY YET.
THAT WOULD JUST BE REFERRED TO WHERE YOU CAN SIGN THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
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>> THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THREE THINGS THAT I HAD.
THE MINORS AND CHILDREN IS THE REMOVE.
>> WHAT PAGE WAS THE MINOR AND CHILDREN ON?
>> GOT IT. WHAT WE HAD ON HERE IS THERE ARE A PIECE OF PAPER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAD INTENDED TO ADD IN THAT IN THAT RED.
WE JUST IN THE PROCESS OF EDITING AND COPYING AND PASTING IT MUST HAVE GOT WAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> NICE DOCUMENT TO WORK THROUGH.
>> YOU SAID THIS WAS, [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT ADDED A FEW WORDS AND THERE BASICALLY WHAT THAT CLAUSE SAYS THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR CHILDREN.
IF YOU'RE OUT THERE AND YOUR CHILDREN BREAK THE RULE, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM.
>> WHAT IS THERE YOUR CHILDREN'S FRIEND?
>> THEN YOU'RE NOT IF YOU'RE THE LEGAL GUARDIAN AND THE LEGAL GUARDIAN AT THAT TIME?
>> NO, IF YOU'RE NOT SUPERVISING THEM LEGALLY, THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LEGALLY.
>> YOU'RE SAYING MY KIDS PICKED UP BECAUSE I COULD GET IN TROUBLE WITH THEIR FRIENDS GOOD.
>> IF THEY'RE NOT THERE WITH A PARENT.
IF YOU'RE THERE AND YOUR KIDS THERE AND HE'S DROPPING LITTER ON THE GROUND OR SOMETHING, YOU CAN GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT.
>> ONLY JUST MY CHILD OR IS THERE WITH ME?
>> IF YOU'RE NOT LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM, NO. THAT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
>> THAT AREN'T THERE RESPONSIBLE?
>> TECHNICALLY, THINK ABOUT IF YOU'RE IN A PARK.
IF YOUR KIDS ARE READY TO GO TO A PARK IN THE DAMAGED PROPERTY, WHETHER THEY HAVE SUPERVISION OR NOT, LIKE THAT FALLS BACK GOES BACK TO THE PARENT.
VERSUS IF YOU MIGHT BE THE GUARDIAN AT THAT TIME.
BUT IF IT'S NOT THEIR CHILD, YOU MAY NOT BECOME RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO LEGAL STATUS OVER THAT INDIVIDUAL.
IF I BRING MY DAUGHTER'S FRIEND, I DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL STATUS OVER THEM, AND SO IT MAY FALL BACK ON THE PARENTS, WHO'S NOT THERE.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GEARING UP FOR, I'VE BEEN GETTING HOT AND READY FOR THIS ONE.
I TOOK A LOT OF TIME EARLIER TODAY JUST TO KIND OF NARROW DOWN FOR DRUMS. OBVIOUSLY, MY REASON FOR THAT WAS NUMBER 21, IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE WE CITY ORDINANCES EXISTED AND KIND OF AND THIS LANGUAGE, AND THEY WERE SUED AND IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE BECAUSE THEY WERE ESSENTIALLY HAVING TRYING TO REGULATE WHAT WAS FEDERAL AIRSPACE.
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME AMOUNT OF LANGUAGE THERE.
NOW, WHEN WE BRIEFLY TOUCH BASE WITH YOU ON IT, I WASN'T ON PURPOSE, BUT JUST CAME UP WAS ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE THING, IF SOMEBODY IS SAY THEY'RE IN THE PARKING LOT AT THE NURSING HOME NEXT DOOR TO BE.
I TAKE OFF FROM THAT PARKING LOT.
I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE AT THAT PARK.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW TAKEOFF AND LANDING IN THE PARK.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY THERE, BUT THAT'S WHY I SAID OPERATING.
>> WHAT I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER HERE WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A TRUST CERTIFICATE MOST OF THE PEOPLE, AND OF COURSE, LIKE I MENTIONED THE CONVERSATION EARLIER TO KIND OF GET MY THOUGHTS COLLECTED AND GO BACK AND FORTH.
I DIDN'T HAVE TERRY ROBERTS TO DO THAT WITH.
I HAD I HAD A PHONE OF FRIENDS.
REALLY WHAT MY QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MOST OF THE DRONE POPULATION, MOST OF THOSE USERS BEING ADULTS.
NOT A LOT OF KIDS CAN OPERATE THOSE, THEY'RE PRETTY COMPLICATED WHEN YOU START GET UP THERE.
WHAT CAN THE CITY DO IN THIS SITUATION? HAS THE REGULATION MAYBE EVEN MAKE A LITTLE REVENUE FROM IT.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, DOES THIS PERSON HAVE A CERTIFICATION? DO THEY HAVE, LIKE, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED ME WITH, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO, WE'RE SAYING HE NEED PERMISSION.
ARE WE LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE TIME, SOME THE SATURDAY MORNING, I WANT TO GO I HAD TO REMEMBER TO GET PERMISSION LAST WEEK.
YOU GO ON THE SATURDAY AFTERNOON THAT I HAVE OFF OR ARE WE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY COMES, THEY SHOW THEIR CERTIFICATIONS AHEAD OF TIME.
THEN THEY KNOW BASED ON THOSE CERTIFICATIONS, WHAT THEIR FA REGULATIONS ARE TO OPERATE WITHIN THOSE, THE LEGAL REALM THERE.
THEN YOU GIVE THEM A FOR EXAMPLE,
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LET'S JUST SAY, YOU GET AN ANNUAL PASS WITH CONTINGENCIES.LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY, THESE ARE THE RULES THAT THERE'S BACK GATHERING, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN FA.
YOU START TO GIVE THE PERMISSION WITH THE REGULAR RULES THEY ALREADY ADHERE TO ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AND THEN WHATEVER THE CITY FELT WOULD BE, HEY, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT, THERE'S A AND THERE'S THAT, YOU GUYS HERE'S YOUR YOU SIGN THIS TO GET THIS PERMIT, YOU SIGN THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THIS.
ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE STRICT, YOU'RE DONE.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CONFISCATE THAT PERMIT.
YOU NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO THIS.
WHAT CONCERNS ME IS WHEN WE START TAKING AWAY SOMETHING LIKE A PART, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN WHERE DO THESE GUYS GO? RESIDENTIAL. I'D MUCH RATHER GO AT BATES AND SEE, SOMEBODY LIKE MY HUSBAND, FOR EXAMPLE.
A LITTLE BIAS COMING OUT HERE, BUT MY 4-YEAR-OLD HUSBAND GOT A DAY OFF, HE'S OUT THERE FLYING.
I'D MUCH RATHER IF I DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS GUY I'D MUCH RATHER SEE HIM THERE THAN IN MY FRONT YARD.
THEN IF IT'S A PRIVACY ISSUE, WELL, THERE'S FOLKS AROUND HERE WHO FULLY WALK AROUND LIKE THIS IN PUBLIC OFFICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
DON'T HAVE ANY PRIVACY EITHER WAY.
THE CAMERA PART IS NOT GOING TO HOLD UP.
LIKE I SAID, TO ME, IS THE RESPONSIBLE OPERATION.
HOW, AGAIN, CAN WE LOOK AT THE AT THE LANGUAGE HERE, MAYBE AS A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY, NOT TAKE AWAY THESE OLD GUYS FUNDS? THAT IS THE GENERAL BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN SEE WHY RC CARDS IN HERE.
I DON'T SEE RC CARS AND THOSE SUCKERS ARE $1,200 PIECE OF MACHINERY THAT GO 75, 80 MILES AN HOUR.
WHAT CAN WE DO HERE WITH THIS? WHAT ARE THOSE RC CARDS? GET INTO THOSE EXPENSIVE ONES OR EVEN MODEL WHAT ARE THEY PLANES SUCKERS ARE EXPENSIVE.
I'M SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO SINGLE OUT DRONES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS POINT, ANY FLYING.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT ANYTHING REMOTE CONTROL.
>> YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS THE OTHER REMOTE CONTROL THINGS.
>> NOW, I DON'T KNOW, SOME KIDS OUT THERE WITH HIS LITTLE RC CAR AND BUMPS IN THE BACK OF MY HEELS.
IT AIN'T ME HIM ALL THE TIME AFTER THERE WAS REMOTE CONTROL I GOT MY SPECIAL BOY FOR BALLGAME BECAUSE HE'S A SIDELINE.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO GO, HEY, WE'RE DRONE ENTHUSIAST.
NOW I FEEL TARGETED BECAUSE ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE THEIR CONTROL STUFF ARE DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
WHAT SEPARATES THEM WHEN I'M FEDERALLY REGULATED, AND THEY'RE NOT, I HAVE EVEN MORE OF A RESPONSIBILITY TO OPERATE THIS THING WITHIN A FEDERAL LEVEL, THAN AN ORDINANCE.
THEN ONE THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST FOR THOSE OTHER WHAT WAS OUR RATIONALE FOR MAKING IT ILLEGAL?
>> IT'S NOT THAT MAKING IT ILLEGAL.
>> WHEN WE SAY ILLEGAL, GOING BACK TO, NOT PROP PLANE.
TYPICALLY, THERE IS A DESIGNATED PARK FOR THAT BASED ON THE USAGE OF WHAT THE USER IS THERE FOR AND SO I THINK PART OF THAT HAD TO GO INTO PLAY OF WHAT THE PUBLIC SPACE IS USED FOR.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T NECESSARILY PERMITTING SAYING THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
IT'S TRYING TO PUT RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO IMPROPER USE.
IF WE ARE HOLDING AN EVENT, WHAT ABILITY DOES SOMEBODY HAVE TO THEN SET OFF A DRONE THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR [INAUDIBLE].
THERE IS A TOURNAMENT GOING ON.
ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE DOING THAT WHILE A TOURNAMENT'S GOING ON?
THAT'S WHERE THE FEDERAL PARK COMES IN RIGHT OFF THE BACK OF THE MASS GATHERING THING, FEDERAL ONE.
>> WHAT WOULD BE A MASS GATHERING TO THEM?
IF YOU GO TO THE FAA, I DON'T KNOW THAT.
I HAVEN'T PULLED UP. MAYBE THIS IS IT. THIS IS ACTUALLY IT.
>> ARE YOU SAYING IT'S NOT ALLOWED AT THE MASS GATHERING?
>> THEY ARE NOT. NO, THAT'S FAA, FEDERAL REGULATIONS, CALLS IT A MASS GATHERING.
>> I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT IF THERE'S SOME ACCIDENT OR INCIDENT OR AT THE SAME TIME, I COULD SAY THAT ABOUT A [INAUDIBLE] FOOTBALL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF I'M OUT IN THE BLEACHERS, I COULD GET HIT WITH ONE OF THOSE SUCKERS AND DIE WHERE A LITTLE THING PLASTIC, THIS BIG IS MAYBE GOING TO GET A LITTLE SCRATCH, BUT I'M TAKING MORE DAMAGE FROM A BALL OR
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A FRISBEE AT THAT POINT THAN I AM A LITTLE PIECE OF PLASTIC THIS BIG.IT'S A MUTE ARGUMENT AT THAT POINT. THAT'S NOT TOWARD YOU.
>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] I DIDN'T MEAN IT.
I WAS MORE WORRIED ABOUT BEING NOSY.
>> THAT'S WHY GO BACK TO THE CAMERA.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE CAMERA.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT IT HAS ON OTHER PARK VISITORS WITH WHEN ONE VISITORS COME IN AND FLYING A DRONE, AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE.
>> WELL, JUST THE ANNOYING NOISE PLUS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON WILDLIFE IN THE PARK.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE BASKETBALL COURT.
>> YEAH, THAT COULD BE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A VERY SMALL DEMOGRAPHIC OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THIS AS A HOBBY, IT'S VERY SMALL, THEN WE LOOK AT WHO CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD THIS HOBBY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR ADULT, THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR FULL TIME, 30 PROBABLY AND OLDER.
THEY'RE NOT GOING OVER THERE TO [NOISE] IN SOMEBODY'S FACE, THEY'RE GOING OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO LOOK AT THE TREES, CAPTURE THE SUN. I CAN TELL YOU.
WE HAVE VIDEOS FROM [INAUDIBLE] OF SUNSET, YOU KNOW? BEAUTIFUL. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO RELAX, DECOMPRESS, GET A VIEW OF THEIR PARKS, IN A NATURE OF WAY AND A RESPONSIBLE WAY SO THAT'S WHY I SAY, IF IT'S ABOUT COMBATING WHAT YOU THINK COULD START TO LEAN INTO ABUSE OR MISUSE, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE PERMITTING SIDE COMES IN.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, WE NEED NAMES, WE NEED ADDRESS, WE NEED PHONE NUMBER, WE WANT TO SEE YOUR TRUST CERTIFICATE, MEANING YOU'VE TAKEN THE CLASSES THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ASK FOR FAA PERMISSION TO FLY IN THIS AIRSPACE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AHEAD OF TIME.
THIS ACTUALLY VERY SPECIFICALLY, TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS, WHAT IS IT CALLED, UNREGULATED AIRSPACE.
BUT THAT WAY, YOU'RE GIVING THESE GUYS 30 PLUS, MAYBE 10 LOCALLY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THAT RESPONSIBLY, BUT WHILE STILL MAINTAINING SOME AMOUNT OF CONTROL OVER HOW IT'S DONE AND WHERE IT'S OPERATING.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. AGAIN, IF YOU'RE PERMITTED, MY QUESTION IS, HEY, YOU GOT YOUR PERMIT? SOMEBODY'S COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING HERE OR WHATEVER? NO, I DON'T. YOU'RE DONE.
YOU HAVE A PERMIT, [INAUDIBLE] YOU SIGNED THAT YOU WOULDN'T DO THIS HERE WITHOUT MAYBE COMMERCIAL SPECIAL PERMISSION? WELL, NOW YOU'VE LOST YOUR ABILITY TO FLY WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'VE BROKEN OUR POLICY THAT YOU SIGNED.
IT'S LIKE THERE'S STILL A WAY TO PROTECT THE CITY AND MAYBE, LIKE I SAID, EVEN MAYBE A SMALL REVENUE, A SMALL PERMIT, AND STILL HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE, BUT WITHOUT JUST SAYING, AS YOU STATED HERE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ILLEGAL WITHOUT PERMISSION ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS LAW.
YOU'RE TALKING BIG BUCKS ON A LITTLE PLASTIC 40 YEAR OLD MAN HOBBY.
[LAUGHTER] I'M LIKE, COME ON NOW.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT.
I THINK IT'S LIKE WE SPOKE ABOUT.
>> IT IS MORE ABOUT ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THERE'S OTHER REGULATIONS, IT'S ENSURING THAT THEY ARE ABIDING BY THAT.
>> THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO UTILIZE IT, THAT THEY HAVE RESTRICTION THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE.
IN SOME WAYS, IT'S THE OTHER SIDE, AS YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE ONES THAT THEY'RE ENTHUSIAST, IT'S A HOBBY.
THEN THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT IT'S JUST POOL AND FUN, AND I AM GOING TO USE IT TO GO BOTHER PEOPLE AROUND.
>> MOST OF THE TIME I SEE, IT'S REALLY ADVERTISING.
IT'S LIKE REALTORS TRYING TO ADVERTISE OR THE CITY'S TRYING TO ADVERTISE.
I GET AN AERIAL VIEW OR THERE'S A MASS WITH SOME FLOOD OR SOME EVENT IF THEY WANT TO GET THAT AERIAL PICTURE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M HAPPY SHE BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER SPOT IS FOR OUR CITY GUYS AND I SEE THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED BY THE POLICE.
WHAT IF THESE GUYS LEAVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? WHERE DO YOU GUYS GO TO TRAIN TO BECOME THE NEXT PEOPLE WHO FLY FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON IF THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, ACCESS TO A PLACE THAT'S WIDE OPEN ENOUGH FOR THEM TO DO IT? LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT LANGUAGE AND THINGS WE NOTICED AND ADDRESSING IT.
THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT ONE IS, JUST HOPING THAT THE LANGUAGE AND HOW IT'S PRESENTED CAN BE MODIFIED AND THEN PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT, LIKE I SAID, CAN EITHER ADD REVENUE TO THE CITY AND STILL HAVE SOME CITY CONTROL, SOME CONTROL.
>> I'LL BE HONEST THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN CHARGING FOR IT.
WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN JUST YET.
[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] THE OTHER ONE I LOOK AT IT IS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
IT'S LIKE ONE OF THE VERBIAGE THAT WE'RE CHANGING IS, WHAT PEOPLE UTILIZE PARKS FOR.
PARKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR PERSONAL GAIN, NOT PROFIT.
THAT IS ONE THAT IS MISSING OUT NOW THAT'S ADDED IN THERE TO TALK ABOUT YOU CAN'T
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UTILIZE IT FOR YOUR BUSINESS THAT'S COMING IN AND YOU HAVE TO SEEK PERMISSION.IT'S NOT BY ANY MEANS TO SAY THAT IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED AND MAYBE WE CHANGE THE VERBIAGE OF ILLEGAL BECAUSE THE SOUND OF IT.
IT'S ASKING PEOPLE LIKE, HEY, THERE'S A PROCESS TO DO THIS AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THIS IS ALL WE ASK YOU TO DO.
IF YOU WANT TO RENT THE PAVILION, YOU HAVE A PROCESS TO DO THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO OFFER A YOGA CLASS UNDER THE PAVILION, THERE'S A PROCESS TO DO THAT.
THAT'S THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS HERE WAS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFEGUARDED THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OTHER REGULATIONS THAT COME IN AND YOU'RE ABIDING BY THEM.
IT'S THAT QUICK ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED LIKE, HEY, YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT?
>> YOU DO, FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC GUIDELINES.
>> WAS THAT RV? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE? I DON'T THINK SO, DO YOU?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
I THINK IT'S THE SOLUTION THAN MORE OF A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
>> I DON'T SEE IT. IF IT WAS SOME SUPER HEAVY PRESENCE OF PEOPLE, JUST I CAN STILL MAKE A MISTAKE.
>> YOU MIGHT SEE THAT LIKE IN THE SKATE PARK, PEOPLE USING THE SKATE PARK.
>> IN REALITY, THOUGH, THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE SKATE PARK SIDE OF IT, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE VERY MORE SPECIFIC RULES AND WHAT IS THE INTENT FOR IT TO BE USED FOR.
THAT'S THE SAME THING IS, IF IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A SKATE PARK, THAT IS WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO BE, AND IT'S NOT FOR THESE OTHER THINGS.
IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SEE A PARK, WE TELL PEOPLE DON'T USE THE PICNIC TABLE.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PUT A ROLL UP THAT SAYS THAT IS NOT FOR PEOPLE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PICNIC TABLE IS USED FOR.
YOU PUT THAT IN PLACE SO THEY KNOW THAT'S NOT IT USED FOR BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FIND THINGS.
IT'S SO UNDERSTANDABLE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENT, SUGGESTIONS? THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM.
THIS IS JUST CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE WE FINE TUNE IT AND GET MORE EYES ON A CLEAN VERSION.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING AFTERWARDS AND YOU WANT TO SHOOT IT OVER, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
>> ONE THING THAT ANN JUST MENTIONED THAT THE BOOM BOX.
WE NEVER ADDRESSED LOUD EXCESSIVE NOISES.
>> ISN'T THERE SIGNAGE ABOUT LOUD?
>> THAT WOULD GO BACK TO THE CITY ORDINANCE.
>> YEAH. BUT DIFFERENCE IS THE REC CENTER IS, LIKE REC CENTER, WE DON'T ALLOW THAT IN THE REC CENTER. THAT'S A POLICY.
>> YOU CAN USE THAT CITY LOTS OF STUFF LIKE RC CARS IN THE CAFETERIA CREATING A CITY SERVICE.
>> IF YOU RENT A [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY WANT TO HAVE MUSIC.
YOU TELL THEM THEY KNOW WHAT DECIBEL.
HOW DOES SOMEBODY KNOW IF THEY'RE OVER THE DECIBEL?
>> IT'S JUST THE WAY IF THERE'S COMPLAINTS AND THE GDF CALLED IN.
MOST OF THE TIME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT YES, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN RANCHOS WILL GO IN AND THEY'LL BE TOO LOUD AND SOMEBODY AT THE PARK WON'T LIKE IT.
THEY'LL CALL THE POLICE, AND THE POLICE WILL COME OVER AND SAY, SAY YOUR NAME.
>> I HEAR [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE TIME IN MY HOUSE, WHEN THE WIND BLOWS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] MORE THAN AN HOUR OR SO.
BETTER THAN THE CONSTRUCTION NEXT DOOR.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO VOTE ON HERE.
>> NO. AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
>> WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP HERE ON THIS?
>> I'LL MAKE SOME OF THE REVISIONS WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, START TO SEND IT OVER TO LEGAL, SO THEY'LL START TO PUT THEIR EYES ON IT BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE WANT TO START TO GET THEIR BLESSING, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAUGHT.
AS AARON HAS MENTIONED, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE OR CAN'T SO WE'LL GET THAT STUFF UPDATED, AND THEN WE WILL GO TO COUNCIL TO START TO PRESENT AND DO PUBLIC HEARING.
THE COMMUNITY HAS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT AS WELL, AND THEN OFFICIAL ADOPTION BY COUNCIL.
>> THE LEGAL WE HAVE IT FOR QUITE A WHILE, PROBABLY.
>> PROBABLY, GIVEN THE LENGTH OF IT.
>> COMPLAINT 14, THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BULLETS FOR EVERY 50.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S A RENTAL FACILITY.
THAT'S NOT THE PARK HAVING TO PROVIDE THAT.
THAT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE,
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YOU GOT TO BRING IN TOILET [INAUDIBLE] TO DEAL WITH THEM.>> THAT'S THE STANDARDS OF CARE STUFF
>> I NUMBERED THAT, MISSED THAT.
>> TWO SETS, YES BECAUSE ONE IS THE PAGE NUMBER FROM UNICODE AND ONE OF THAT ABOUT.
>> THAT'S THE STANDARDS OF CARE STUFF FOR THE USE.
>> 2030. THAT WAS UNDER FACILITY STANDARDS.
>> SEVEN. I THINK THAT YOU'RE CORRECT AS TO THE STANDARDS OF CARE.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE THOUGH IT WOULD BE.
>> THAT'S STANDARD STANDARD OF CARE.
AS FAR AS WHEN WE HAVE CAMP, HOW MANY REST ROOMS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AVAILABLE.
THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THE STANDARDS OF CARE.
>> THAT'S NOTHING THAT WE WROTE.
DID YOU GUYS WRITE THAT OR IS THAT A STANDARD STATE DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING.
>> WELL, LIKE SHE SAID, THOUGH.
>> THERE'S NOT THAT MANY LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW SO ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.
>> IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESTROOM, SO THERE SHOULD BE ONE TOILET FOR EVERY 15 FEMALE.
THIS IS FOR STANDARDS OF CARE.
IF WE HAD 40 PEOPLE AT THAT CAMP, WE WOULD BE WITHIN ONE TOILET OR ONE OR ONE STALL AVAILABLE SO THERE'S FIVE STALLS SO THAT WOULD GET YOU UP TO THAT.
THAT IS JUST FOR STANDARD OF CARE FOR YOU.
IF WE RUN OUR PROGRAM, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT LIKE IF THEY'RE BASED ON THE FACILITY, THAT THEY WOULD BE ASKED THAT THERE IS ONE REQUIRED.
>> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY NOW, WE START GETTING INTO THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY, AND THEY ARE HOSTING LARGE SPORT EVENTS.
IT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED OR SHOULD BE THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TOILETING.
>> WE ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE THEM, MOST OF THEM DO.
THEY PUT IN THEIR MASS GATHERING, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MASS GATHERING, THAT THEY WOULD PUT ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS AS A PART OF THIS.
ONE OF THE MOST RECENT ONES WAS BROUGHT UP AND THE REASON I REMEMBER IS BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS BROUGHT, THAT STAFF HAD WAS WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO BE REMOVED? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE REMOVED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
THERE IS THAT PORTION OF IT SO STAFF WOULD GO THROUGH AND REVIEW AND SAY, HEY, YOUR EVENTS HAS 1,000 PEOPLE.
OUR RESTROOMS CAN'T HANDLE A 1,000 PEOPLE, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL PORTABLE.
>> I SEE NOW WE REFERRING TO IT WAS JUST A LOT OF.
>> THE STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE YOUTH AND REC PROGRAMS IS VERY LENGTHY AND SO IT GETS LOST IN HERE BECAUSE OF HOW LONG THAT DOCUMENTED.
>> THERE IS A SEPARATION AND I GUESS THAT GOES BACK TO THE TOILETING.
THERE'S A SEPARATION IN HERE OF WHAT IS CITY OF ANGLETON OFFERED PROGRAMS VERSUS WHAT ARE MORE INDEPENDENT 501 PROGRAM? RIGHT? THEY ARE ADDRESSING WHAT IS PRIMARILY HERE IS BEING ADDRESSED THAT IT'S CITY OF ANGLETON'S RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, NOT THE INDEPENDENT 501 C3.
>> THIS IS THE GOVERNING BODY OVER PARKS AND REC FOR US.
EXAMPLE IS LIKE COST RECOVERY.
QUESTION CAME UP FROM OUR ASAS WAS, WAIT, DO I HAVE TO FILE THIS COST RECOVERY MODEL? I WAS LIKE, NO, YOU ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY.
BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS YOUTH LEAGUE.
IF WE WERE TO OFFER A BASEBALL LEAGUE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SET OUR PRICES BASED ON COST RECOVERY, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LITTLE LEAGUE.
WE DON'T BECAUSE WE HAVE LITTLE LEAGUE, BUT WE HAVE LIKE WE DO A VOLLEYBALL LEAGUE AND SO WE HAVE STANDARDS CARE FOR VOLLEYBALL.
WELL, THAT DOESN'T COUNT TO A THIRD PARTY.
THAT JUST COUNTS TO PARKS OR RECREATION PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY.
>> [INAUDIBLE]? [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE ADJOURNED.
>> ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.