[3. Discussion on preliminary budget priorities for Parks and Rights of Way, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2025-2026]

PRELIMINARY BUDGET PRIORITIES WITH PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY, RECREATION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISION BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, 2026.

>> HARD TO BELIEVE WE'RE ALREADY AT THIS PROCESS AGAIN, BUT IT SNEAKS UP ON US QUICKLY.

THIS IS OPPORTUNITY TO START TALKING ABOUT BUDGET FOR FY 26/27.

LET'S SCROLL. SEE IF IT GIVES US A BETTER PICTURE ON HERE.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT EACH OF THE DIVISIONS BUDGET, HOW IT SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO ABLC, PARKS DIVISION, RECREATION DIVISION AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET HERE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START TO BREAK DOWN AND GO THROUGH EACH LINE ITEM AS YOU WILL AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE INCREASES OR DECREASES THAT YOU WOULD SEE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY DIVISION, SOME OF THE THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THAT ONE, IS WE DO ANTICIPATE INCREASE IN REVENUE STREAM FOR NEXT YEAR.

A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT ONE IS WE JUST WENT THROUGH OUR FEE STUDY, OR FEE SCHEDULE UPDATE SO THAT IMPACTED OUR FEES AS FAR AS OUR PAVILION USES GO.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL HELP US SEE A BETTER RETURN THERE.

WE SHOULD HAVE OUR PICKLEBALL COURTS ONLINE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO HAVE A RENTABLE SPACE FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BATES PARK.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE.

WE'VE ALSO ADDED THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AT BATES PARK.

THAT IS A USER GROUP THAT IS STARTING TO USE IT FOR RUGBY.

THAT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL RENTAL SPACE THAT GOES WITH THAT.

THEN AS FAR AS EXPENSES GO, THERE WAS A DECREASE IN EXPENSES.

I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, THOUGH.

PER CITY MANAGER'S REQUEST, HIS REQUEST FOR GENERAL FUND ITEMS WAS TO KEEP OUR BUDGETS FLAT.

THAT KEEPING IT FLAT ALSO INCLUDED OR DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT VACANCIES.

FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE ARE ANTICIPATED TO HAVE FOUR VACANCIES THAT ARE NOT TABULATED AS A COST IN THIS BUDGET.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE THREE CREW MEMBER POSITIONS AND THE DIRECTOR'S POSITION.

THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE WAS TO ADD THOSE LATER.

THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO ADD POSITIONS BACK IN.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST BEING ASKED TO BUDGET WITHOUT THOSE BECAUSE WE ARE STILL ON OUR HIRING FREEZE.

YOU WILL SEE IN THE NOTES AS WE GO THROUGH THAT THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED NUMBERS WITH THAT TO KEEP IN MIND.

THE REASON I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT IS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE ABLC SUPPORTS FUNDING FOR PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY PERSONNEL COSTS.

THAT WILL SKEW SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT AND GET INTO SOME OF THE FUNDING COMPONENTS,

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YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT IS AS WE GO THROUGH, WE'VE STARTED TO ADJUST SOME FUNDING TO HELP COVER COSTS AND OTHER AREAS, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT ADDRESSED.

FOR THE RECREATION DIVISION, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT A 24% INCREASE IN REVENUE.

WE DID GO THROUGH AND ADOPT A NEW COST RECOVERY PLAN.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TIER SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT.

THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED INCREASE IN COST FOR RECREATION DIVISION.

THEN THEY HAD AN OVERALL DECREASE IN EXPENSES OF ABOUT 10%.

THERE'S SOME VERY SPECIFIC ONES THERE, AS FAR AS HOW THAT GOES, AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO RELATE TO THAT.

BUT SOME OF THOSE TO HIGHLIGHT IS TRAVEL AND TRAINING EXPENSES CAME DOWN.

WE ARE LEASE VEHICLES.

THE RECREATION DIVISION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LEASE VEHICLES.

WE ARE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE TWO OF THOSE OUTRIGHT THIS YEAR.

THEN WE WON'T HAVE THOSE ON THE BOOKS FOR NEXT YEAR, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE ONE LEASE VEHICLE, SO THAT SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES THE COST THERE, SO THAT HELPS TO REDUCE THEIR EXPENSES.

THEN THE ANGLETON REC CENTER WAS PRETTY MINIMAL AS FAR AS THEIR REVENUE AND EXPENSE SIDE.

WE ANTICIPATE SEEING A SMALL INCREASE IN THEIR REVENUE.

MAIN THING I WILL SAY IS THE CAVEAT HERE IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TPW GRANTS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE USAGE OF THE FACILITY.

WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND PREDICT AS BEST WE CAN ON HOW THAT ONE.

WE'RE TRYING TO LINE THINGS UP SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NATATORIUM RENOVATIONS, THE LEAST IMPACT AS POSSIBLE.

BUT IN THE END, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT DAY PASSES FACILITY RENTAL.

WE'RE TRYING TO ALREADY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE DO OUR PROJECTIONS FOR NEXT YEAR.

THEN THE SAME TOKEN FOR EXPENSES.

SLIGHT INCREASE THERE.

MAIN INCREASE THAT ATTRIBUTED TO THAT IS, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE FROM PREVIOUSLY THIS YEAR, WE ADOPTED A NEW STANDARD OF COVERAGE FOR THE POOL.

THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST YEAR GOING INTO IT TO ADDRESS ALL THAT.

I WILL SAY ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK IN OUR JUNE MEETING A DISCUSSION ABOUT LIFE GUARD OPTIONS AND OVERALL HOURS OF THE FACILITY AND THE DISCUSSION THERE THAT COULD FURTHER ADDRESS SOME OF THAT STUFF.

THEN ABLC, WE WILL GET INTO AS FAR AS THE EXPENSES GO.

BUT ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DIVER RIGHT IN?

>> I HAVE ONE. WHEN WE HAD THE LAST MEETING, AND I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR THE DAY PASSES.

I THINK AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THIS ONE GENTLEMAN STOOD UP AND HE MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IF WE WERE TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT FROM FIVE TO 10, THEN THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO COME AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE STREET TO MAYBE THE WELLNESS CENTER.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MAYBE TO REVISIT, BECAUSE I WAS DOING MY HOMEWORK.

I WAS LOOKING AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR MISSOURI COUNTY AND SUCH AND FOR ANGLETON.

THEN SPOKEN ABOUT SOME OF THE STRENGTH AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.

SOME OF THE STRENGTH WAS LIKE HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION, LOW DRUG, DEATH RATE, LOW CANCER RATE.

BUT ON THE CHALLENGES, HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, WE HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF UNINSURED POPULATION.

HIGH PREVENCE OF DIABETES AND HIGH PREVALENCE OF PHYSICAL INACTIVITY.

JIM MADE A POINT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ENCOURAGE THOSE KIDS.

I THINK HE BROUGHT THE ANALOGY OF THE KIDS COMING THROUGH BOUNCING THE BASKETBALL.

THOSE KIDS JUST DON'T HAVE A PLACE, AND $10 IS SUBSTANTIAL COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS.

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT MINIMUM WAGE FOR SOMEONE NOW WAS LIKE THEY'RE PAYING MORE FOR THAT $10 FOR THAT ONE SESSION AS THE MINIMUM WAGE, BASICALLY.

I KNOW WE HAD MENTIONED LAST TIME ABOUT SOME OF THE SCHOLARSHIP THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GRANTS SO SUCH TO LIKE OFFSET THAT.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT DOWN THE ROAD TO MAYBE REVISIT BECAUSE I THINK GOING FROM 5-10 IS SUBSTANTIAL.

I KNOW WE AGREED ON THAT, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL AGREED AND PASSED ON THAT, AND WE VOTED YES, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT.

>> IF I CAN SAY, ONE OF THE THINGS, AS FAR AS THE FEE SCHEDULE GOES, THE INTENTION FOR OURS IS IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR FEES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, BUT YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE LOOKING AT YOUR FEES TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATE.

THE OTHER SIDE OF IT WAS WE WERE TRYING TO BE INTENTIONAL TOO TO LOOK FOR A COMMITMENT SIDE.

IF SOMEBODY WAS TO BUY A MEMBERSHIP, THEIR MEMBERSHIP WOULD FAR OUTWEIGH THE DAILY COST.

IF YOU WERE TO BUY A MEMBERSHIP AS A INDIVIDUAL, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $1 A DAY.

THEIR COST SAVINGS WOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

IN ADDITION, IS WHY WE ALSO WANTED

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TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME WITH A MEMBER.

IF THEY CAME WITH A MEMBER, IT WOULD REDUCE THEIR COST TO A $5 COST.

SOME OF THAT TIES INTO THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT I HAVE WITHIN THE FACILITY AND THAT COMMITMENT THAT GOES BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME.

WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THE THIRD THING YOU MENTIONED, ABSOLUTELY, IS AS FAR AS THE SCHOLARSHIP SIDE OF IT, IS WE'VE HAD TO TALK INTERNALLY OF ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK AT AND ADJUST AS WE NEED TO BASED ON THE NEED THAT'S THERE.

>> I THINK A NICE WAY TO BE ABLE TO TRACK WHETHER WE HAVE A DECREASE IN ONE DAY PASSES AFTER THE INCREASE IN FEE, SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT FOR THE NEXT YEAR GOING FORWARD.

>> I HAVE A HOLD OF VARIOUS IDEAS ON THAT, TOO.

I KNOW IT'S JUST SOME IDEAS THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY THOUGHT THROUGH AS WELL AND HAVE REASONS WHY TO DO IT OR NOT TO DO IT.

BUT WOULD BE CONSIDERING IF TWO PEOPLE BOUGHT PASSAGES AT THE SAME TIME, $15.

IT'S ABOUT 7.50 A HEAD. SAVE A LITTLE MONEY THERE.

THE IDEA OF SEWING ALMOST A WRISTBAND, LIKE AS IN A $10 FOR GET YOU A WHOLE DAY, COME AND GO $5 YOU COME, BUT ONCE YOU LEAVE, YOU LEAVE OR $5 GET YOU TWO HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST A FOOD FOR THOUGHT THAT MAYBE SOME OTHER IDEAS WE COULD EXPLORE.

WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE PROVIDING A COMMUNITY RESOURCE WITH NOT LOSING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. LET'S JUST BE HONEST.

>> BECAUSE WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE ARC ANYWAYS.

>> THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING AS SMALL AND TRIPLE AS FIVE TO $10 REALLY DETER PEOPLE FROM COMING TO THE FACILITY, WHEN IN FACT, I THINK THAT'S A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT MAYBE JUST WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE BIGGER NUMBERS ANYWAYS.

>> OBVIOUSLY, WE AGREED ON YOUR POINT BEFORE, WHICH IS DRIVING PEOPLE TOWARDS MEMBERSHIPS.

MAYBE THAT JUST HAS TO ALSO BE AT THE DESK.

THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE ARE CONTINUALLY REMINDING THEM, HEY, YOU CAN HAVE THIS FOR $5, BUT YOU CAN GET A MONTHLY, FOR THIS AMOUNT.

IT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE WORKING A LOT OF THOSE ANALOGY OF THE PERSON PLAYING BASKETBALL, WHICH I KNOW WE GET A LOT OF DAY PASSES FOR BASKETBALL.

THE IDEA WOULD BE TRYING TO GET MOST OF THOSE USERS, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY, ARE YOUTH.

I DON'T KNOW. TEENAGERS HAVE A DIFFERENT PRICE.

WE ARE JUST BEING HONEST.

MOST OF THEM ARE WORKING AND IF THEY ARE WORKING, THEY'RE LIKE, DR. JACKSON, PROBABLY MAKING MINIMUM WAGE TYPE OF JOB.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY SOME LIKE THE DISCOUNT IDEA.

WE CAN LOOK AT RUNNING DIFFERENT PROMOTIONS THAT SUPPORT THAT AND PROMOTE THAT.

SAME THING AS WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO, WE ENCOURAGE FEEDBACK.

IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, AND WE ESPECIALLY SEE THAT BASED ON A RESIDENT VERSUS NON RESIDENT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE SERVING THE RESIDENTS, IS THAT THE ANGLETON REC CENTER WAS BUILT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

ONE OF THE HIGHEST USES WE SEE IS IN THE SUMMER, AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS SKEW TO THE RESIDENT'S SIDE.

SOMETIMES RESIDENTS GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THAT PIECE IS THERE.

WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT MORE.

BUT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

>> LIKE YOU MENTIONED, JASON, THAT IF THIS PRETTY MUCH ENCOURAGES THOSE GUYS TO GET MEMBERSHIPS, THEN IN THE LONG RUN, THEY ACTUALLY SAVE MORE MONEY BY GETTING MEMBERSHIPS.

BUT FOR THAT ONE OFF KID WHO FAMILY'S NOT GOING TO DO A MEMBERSHIP, IT'S LIKE, HOPEFULLY HE'S NOT PENALIZED FOR.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE EDUCATION PIECES THAT TRAVIS HAD MENTIONED, IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK ON IS WE HAVE A EVENT COMING UP THE BEGINNING OF MAY FOR THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE REC CENTER FOR 20 YEARS.

ONE OF THE SELLING PIECES OF THAT IS TELLING THEM THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THE MEMBERSHIP OF NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THE DAY PASS PIECE.

BECAUSE WHEN IT SWITCHES TO THAT $10, THE MEMBERSHIP SIDE FOR A RESIDENT HASN'T CHANGED.

IT'S GOING TO FAR OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

A MEMBERSHIP BEING $35, FOUR TIMES YOU'RE GOING TO COME, YOU'RE GOING TO ALREADY HAVE PAID FOR YOUR MEMBERSHIP.

THERE'S YOUTH THAT WE HAVE. WHETHER WE TELL THEM OR NOT, THERE ARE $5, THEY'LL COME IN,

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THEY'LL COME FOUR, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

THEY PURCHASED THE MEMBERSHIP, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVEN'T PURCHASED THE MEMBERSHIP, AND IT'S CONTINUING TO FURTHER TO EDUCATE THEM ON YOU REALLY SHOULD SIGN UP FOR IT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS, YOU CAN CANCEL THEM AT ANY TIME.

IF YOU DECIDE IT'S NOT WORTH IT, THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO FOSTER THAT COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR EACH OTHER. GREAT POINT.

WE'LL ROLL INTO OUR BUDGET STUFF.

FIRST ONE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE PARK SIDE.

THIS IS THE REVENUES, AS I MENTIONED.

QUICK HIGHLIGHT HERE AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR NEXT YEAR IS 1,400 FOR OUR BALL FIELDS.

I WILL POINT OUT HERE THE REASON YOU SEE THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE DID SEPARATE THESE LAST YEAR TO GET BETTER TRACKING OF NUMBERS, AND SO WE HAVE A BALL FIELD NUMBER AND WE HAVE A PAVILION NUMBER.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT SKEWED A LITTLE BIT AS EVERYTHING USED TO BE COLLECTED INTO ONE.

BUT $1,400 FOR BALL FIELDS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.

IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE THAT SHOULD JUST SAY FIELDS, AND SO LIKE OUR MULTI PURPOSE FIELDS WOULD INCLUDE INTO THAT AS WELL.

PAVILION RENTALS WOULD BE IN ITS OWN CATEGORY.

THAT WOULD BE A $7,500.

THEN OUR MISCELLANEOUS PARKS REVENUE, THIS IS WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND CHANGE THE DOWNTOWN STREET BANNERS.

PARKS GUYS ACTUALLY GET PAID TO DO THAT FROM THE COMPANY THAT MANAGE THAT SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM.

WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE YEAR ON THAT.

ANYTIME WE CHANGE OUT THEIR BANNERS, THERE'S A FEE THAT COMES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THAT IS THE ADDITIONAL FEE FOR REVENUES.

QUESTION ON REVENUES FOR PARKS? THE EXPENSE SIDE FOR PARKS, THIS IS WHERE AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT THAT PERSONNEL SIDE, SO THIS WILL BE YOUR FIRST PAGE.

AS FAR AS THE REGULAR EARNINGS OR STAFF SALARY, 704,000.

YOU'LL SEE OFF TO THE RIGHT INTO THE NOTES THERE, WE HAVE ITEMIZED THAT OUT AS FAR AS WHAT THE ANTICIPATED COST THAT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO FILL THOSE THREE CREW MEMBERS AND THE DIRECTOR POSITION.

THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER IS DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBER YOU SAW FROM THIS PREVIOUS BUDGET.

IF YOU TAKE INTO THOSE ACCOUNTS, THAT'S WHY YOU'D SEE THAT ONE GO OVER A LITTLE OVER $900,000.

OVERTIME IS ZEROED OUT.

THAT IS STILL BASED ON THE CURRENT STRUCTURE FOR THIS YEAR.

THERE IS NO CURRENT OVERTIME OR COMP TIME.

PER DIRECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT'S THERE IN THE EVENT THAT THAT GOT APPROVED TO COME BACK, BRING POSITIONS BACK.

WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT BEING AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT IT WAS LAST YEAR FOR SUPPORT.

LONGEVITY, THIS ONE YOU WILL SEE A DECREASE.

THERE WAS A NEW POLICY PUT IN PLACE THAT ANYBODY UNDER FIVE YEARS WOULD NOT RECEIVE LONGEVITY PAY.

YOU HAVE TO HIT FIVE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT CHANGE IN THE NUMBER THERE.

CERTIFICATION PAY WOULD PAY FOR OUR PARKS AND RECS SUPERINTENDENT CERTIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE BILINGUAL PAY.

FICA AND HEALTH INSURANCE REMIND YOU OF THOSE TWO.

THOSE DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THOSE FOUR VACANT POSITIONS.

YOU WILL SEE THOSE IN THE NOTES THERE.

THEN WORKERS COMP, THAT IS BASED ON HR'S RECOMMENDATION.

I WILL SAY STAFF HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH HR TO TRY TO FIND OUT THIS AND FINE TUNE THIS NUMBER.

IT HAS CHANGED YEAR OVER YEAR, AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM HR REFLECTIVE OF A 10% INCREASE ON THAT THERE.

BUT THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT SEE A DIFFERENCE IN SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> UNEMPLOYMENT WOULD STAY THE SAME.

RETIREMENT, AGAIN, THAT ONE'S DOWN BECAUSE VACANT, FOUR POSITIONS, AND THEN THE MEDICAL EXPENSE IS OUR DRUG TEST, AND SO THAT'S THE MAIN ONES AS FAR AS THE PERSONNEL.

GOING INTO OUR OTHER SECTIONS.

MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE GOING TO STAY PRETTY CONSISTENT, EXCEPT FOR A FEW AREAS THAT WE'VE MOVED SOME FUNDING TO WORK WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE NUMBERS.

APPAREL, WE DRASTICALLY REDUCE THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT THE LONGER STAFF HAVE.

WE SUPPORT PAYING FOR PANTS, BOOTS, AND SHIRTS.

IF WE KEEP THE SAME STAFF, WHICH WE'VE DONE A FAIRLY GOOD JOB, ABOUT 75% OF OUR RETURNING, THEIR STUFF STARTS TO WEAR AND TEAR, SO IT STARTS TO BE MORE CUMBERSOME TO TRY TO REPLACE THEIR ITEMS. WE ADJUSTED THINGS LIKE YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE IN GENERAL SUPPLIES TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT.

MAIN ONE, WE'LL POINT OUT HERE IS VEHICLE SUPPLY.

WE ARE REQUESTING AN INCREASE THERE.

AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE OVERALL BUDGET.

BUT WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY SEEN THAT BE OVER $30,000.

WE REQUESTED LAST YEAR TO REMAIN FLAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER BUDGET AGAIN AND HAVE HAD TO PULL MONEY SO WE'RE JUST PULLING

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MONEY AS WE CAN FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE DECREASE IN SOME AREAS AND AN INCREASE THERE.

POINT OUT THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY, SO YOU'LL SEE THE SUBTOTAL FOR SUPPLY LINE HAS REMAINED FLAT.

WE JUST FIND STRATEGIC WAYS OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO.

WE CAN'T GET AROUND VEHICLES FOR GAS, AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO BUDGET APPROPRIATELY FOR THOSE.

AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE SIDE GOES, NO MAJOR CHANGES ON YOUR FIRST FOUR ITEMS REGARDING VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT.

REPAIRS, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OUR BUILDINGS.

WE'LL BE KEEPING THOSE THE SAME.

WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO KB TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS, INCLUDING VEGETATION, IRRIGATION, REPAIRS.

WE WILL BE REQUESTING KB TO CONTINUE TO HELP FUND THOSE.

WHEN WE GO INTO SERVICE AND CHARGES, BASED ON A YEAR OVER YEAR, WE FEEL CONFIDENT FOR THE UTILITIES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE CONVERSIONS WE'VE HAD SWITCHING OVER TO LED, WE ENVISIONED THAT THE UTILITY NEED WON'T BE AS HIGH, SO WE HAVE REDUCED THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE REDUCED OUR DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AND UTILIZED THAT AS FAR AS TRYING TO KEEP OUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING FLAT, AND THEN BALL-FIELD MAINTENANCE IS ONE THAT HAS REMAINED FLAT AS WELL SO WE'LL POINT OUT THERE, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT AN $8,000 DECREASE OVERALL IN THIS LINE.

THIS SUBSECTION FOR CHARGES AND SERVICES.

NEXT SECTION, AS FAR AS MISCELLANEOUS GOES, VEHICLE INSURANCE ACCOUNTS FOR A 5% INCREASE PER HR'S RECOMMENDATION.

SAME THING FOR BUILDING INSURANCE.

WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION FLAT. THIS WOULD ACCOUNT FOR.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS OF SERVICE AWARDS COMING UP SO THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THEY RECEIVED FOR YEARS OF SERVICE.

LEASE PAYMENTS WOULD KEEP THAT ONE FLAT AS WELL.

THE LAST ONE IS THE BUILDING LEASE.

WE HAVE OFFICIALLY MOVED OUT OF THE MODULAR BUILDING THAT WE WERE AT, SO THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE PAID ANY LONGER, AND SO THAT IS FULLY ZEROED OUT SO THAT COST DRASTICALLY REDUCES AS WELL.

>> QUESTION, 8,000, THAT'S JUST YOUR PORTION, RIGHT?

>> THAT IS JUST OUR PORTION.

>> THERE'S OTHER PART. THERE'S PUBLIC WORKS WAS GIVEN A PIECE OF IT TO YOU.

>> AND IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS PARK SIDE.

ANY QUESTION ON THE PARKS PIECE OF IT?

>> YES. I KNOW YOU KEPT THINGS THE SAME, BUT THIS IS THE LOWEST THAT YOU HAVE HERE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, FOR SURE.

>> KEEP IN MIND THOUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TOTAL NUMBER THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT PERSONNEL SIDE.

SO IF THOSE PERSONNEL, ANY OF THEM WERE ADDED, WE'D BE INCREASING THAT PRICE.

>> THAT'S NOT THE ONLY.

>> NO, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT.

>> 175,000 BUT.

>> YOU HAVE AN INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE IN [INAUDIBLE].

>> EVEN WITH THE INCREASES, THOUGH, YOU'RE DOWN ALMOST 300,000 IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO KEEP IT THE SAME 18% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE IN [INAUDIBLE] INSURANCE.

>> THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS FROM THE PERSONNEL SIDE OF THINGS.

BECAUSE YOU HAD ABOUT 200, 250, 265. YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE.

THE BIGGEST THING WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT WAS UTILITIES AND THE BUILDING LEASE TO FURTHER REDUCE FROM THERE.

OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S PERSONNEL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PARKS BEFORE WE GET INTO ABLC? AS FAR AS ABLC GOES, YOU'LL SEE THE REVENUE PIECE FIRST.

INTEREST ONE REMAINS PRETTY CONSISTENT, TOOK THE AVERAGE OF THE PAST THREE YEARS AS FAR AS OUR INTEREST GOES.

OBVIOUSLY, IT IS ALL DEPENDENT ON HOW MUCH MONEY IS SIT IN THE BANK.

WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO GOOD INTEREST THERE AS FAR AS OUR FUND BALANCE.

AS FAR AS SALE TAX GOES, WE DID THE SAME METHODOLOGY WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, TOOK THE AVERAGE.

I WILL SAY, I DID LOOK AT CONSERVATIVELY.

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AS YOU'LL NOTICE YEAR OVER YEAR, WE'VE STARTED TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DECREASE, AND SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT THAT IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD YEAR, THAT WE'RE NOT COUNTING ON THAT MONEY TO COME IN.

AS FAR AS THIS ESTIMATED PORTION GOES, THIS WAS ON A 7% INCREASE VERSUS THAT 7.4.

JUST AGAIN, AS YOU NOTICED, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT WAS 8.18, 7.26, AND THE 6.76, AND SO WITH THAT TRENDING, WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE A YEAR OVER YEAR TREND, BUT ALSO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT 7% INCREASE WAS BASED ON WHAT WE ESTIMATE FOR THIS YEAR COMING IN, AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP IN LINE WITH THAT.

THAT IS THE REVENUE PORTION FOR ABLC.

AS FAR AS THE EXPENDITURES, AS FAR AS PRELIMINARY, YOU'LL SEE MAJORITY OF THE TRADITIONAL STUFF AS FAR AS IF WE NEED TO ADVERTISING FOR RFPS, RFQS FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON.

SAME THING, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IF THEY'RE REVIEWING ANY OF THE PROJECTS.

CONTINGENCY, I'LL TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY CURRENTLY, KEEP IN MIND, THIS HAS TO DO WITH PARKS PERSONNEL, AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE AS WE GO DOWN.

BUT IF PARKS PERSONNEL CHANGES, THAT NUMBER WOULD OBVIOUSLY DROP BECAUSE THE PERCENT THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING WOULD DROP OR WOULD INCREASE.

THAT'S WHY EVEN THOUGH THAT 407 IS THERE, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS COMING UP WITH AG AREAS, THE REC CENTER RENOVATIONS, HAVING A LOT OF MAJOR STUFF GOING ON BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO MAJOR PROJECTS.

WE MAY HAVE SOME SMALLER THINGS THAT WE'LL TOUCH ON AS WE GO THROUGHOUT.

BUT JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT 407 DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO STAY THERE.

WE JUMP OVER TO THE NEXT PAGE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFERS, AND SO YOU'LL SEE AS FAR AS TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND.

THIS IS CURRENTLY SLATED FOR 30%.

WE HAD CONVERSATIONS PREVIOUSLY THIS YEAR.

ABLC SUPPORTED A 50% TRANSFER.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IT WAS MADE CLEAR WHEN THAT TRANSFER WAS APPROVED THAT THAT WOULD BE A ONE TIME TRANSFER.

SO CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT YOU'LL SEE IS AT A 30%.

IT STILL PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THEY WERE PROVIDING PREVIOUSLY.

THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TO 25%.

IT WENT TO 28%, THEN TO 50%, AND THIS IS PRESENTED AT 30%.

THAT AGAIN, THIS IS TABULATED ON ALL PERSONNEL COSTS MINUS THOSE FOUR POSITIONS.

IF THOSE FOUR POSITIONS AND THE OVERTIME PIECES WENT BACK INTO IT, THIS NUMBER WOULD INCREASE.

>> WHAT'S THE PROJECTION THERE GETTING BACK TO 20%? I KNOW, YEARS AGO, WE WERE LIKE 20 OR EVEN LESS.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROJECT OUT THAT WE'LL SLOWLY GET BACK TOWARDS THAT 20% OR.

>> WE AGREED TO 25.

>> EVEN PRIOR TO THAT.

>> PRIOR TO THAT. WELL, IT STARTED, I GUESS, 2017, RIGHT, SUZZY? THAT'S WHEN TRANSFER STARTED INCREASING FROM THE ABLC FUND.

THEN I THINK IT WAS US AND SHARON AND CHRIS AGREED 25% WOULD BE THE SPACE.

NO LOWER THAN 25, WE'D STAY AT 25 TO HELP OFFSET THE COSTS OF ALL THE PARTS WE'VE BEEN ADDING.

THIS YEAR, WE HAD TO GO UP TO 50.

BUT I THINK STARTING AT 30 AND WORKING OUR WAY TO SEE WHERE WE GO.

I FEEL IS SUFFICIENT BECAUSE SALES TAX REVENUE RIGHT NOW, YEAR TO DATE IS AT 6%.

I THINK WE'VE FORECASTED 6.76 FOR THE YEAR.

WE'RE WITHIN THE REALM POSSIBLE.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE.

>> IT IS POSSIBLE STILL.

>> WE'RE GOING TO SAY IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> YOU'RE PROJECTING NEXT YEAR, 7.4?

>> SEVEN. I PUT IT AT SEVEN.

>> SEVEN.

>> 7.4.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AVERAGE 7.4, BUT SEVEN IS PROJECTED.

>> BECAUSE OF THE DROP.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GO 7.4 AND HOPE FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT DROP SO I STARTED AT SEVEN, BUT WE HAD A CONVERSATION OF

>> IT MIGHT BE EVEN 6.5.

>> 6.5.

>> THE 30% IS VERY REASONABLE.

GOOD. I KNOW BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY, TO GET TO THAT 25, IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE HOT ENOUGH TOPIC TO GET 25.

NOW I'LL GET LIKE 50 LAST TIME, BUT THAT WAS A NEED FOR THAT.

>> WITH THE CUTTING OF THE BUDGETS ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE ON THE GENERAL FUND,

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YOU'RE REDUCING HOW MUCH YOU'RE HAVING TO SEND OVER NOW AT 30%, LESS OF THE BUDGET.

THAT'S HOW HE'S SAYING THE CONTINGENCY LINE IS AT 407 RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THE BEST WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.

THAT ACTUALLY DOES GIVE US MONEY TO START WORKING ON SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

HOWEVER, A LOT OF THAT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS.

THE QUESTION I HAD WAS THE LEASE PAYMENT, IS THAT STILL IN THE CONTINGENCY LINE? OR DID YOU MOVE IT OUT, SUSAN?

>> PAYMENT FOR THE?

>> FOR THE DEBT SERVICE, SORRY.

>> THE DEBT SERVICE IS THERE?

>> IT IS THERE.

>> 697. TRANSFERRED TO DEBT SERVICE.

>> TO DEBT SERVICE?

>> OH, 975.

>> YES.

>> BECAUSE I THINK THIS PAST YEAR, WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE FIRST PAYMENT IN THE CONTINGENCY LINE IS WHAT I WAS TOLD SO IT'S NOT THERE.

GOOD. THAT'S FINE. IT WORKED.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN AS WELL.

I THINK IT'S EARLY. I'LL GO DOWN THAT ROAD TOO.

>> I CAN BRING BACK A NUMBER, THE NEXT TIME WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET, I CAN BRING BACK 6.5 AND JUST SEE LIKE, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

BEFORE BECAUSE JUNE WAS WHEN WE'LL MEET AGAIN, AND WE WON'T BRING IT TO COUNCIL UNTIL JULY.

I CAN BRING THOSE NUMBERS TO COMPARE AND SEE WHERE THAT LEADS US FOR SOME OF THE CONTINGENCIES PIECE.

THEN AT THE SAME TIME, I COULD ALSO IF PROGRESSION STUFF HAPPEN OR DISCUSSIONS PROGRESS FOR THE CITY AS FAR AS FUNDING FOR PERSONNEL, THEN WE CAN START TO SHOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THAT.

BUT I CAN BRING IT TO WHAT A TOTAL WOULD BE FOR ALL OF THEM BACK, AND IT'LL GIVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

>> THAT WAS OUR GENERAL FUND TRANSFER AT 30%.

DEBT SERVICE DOES REDUCE A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR, SO WE HAD OUR INITIAL ONE FROM LAST YEAR, AND SO THAT DOES COME DOWN, SO YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF REDUCTION THERE.

ACTIVITY CENTER TRANSFER, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'LL GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT.

THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE.

I WILL SAY AS WE GO THROUGH, THIS, WE WERE ABLE TO MANEUVER SOME FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT BASED ON THE FIRST DISCUSSIONS WE HAD AND SOME OF THAT INCREASED COST THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING FROM THE LIFE GUARDING ONE, THIS IS A SMALL PORTION OF INCREASE, I WOULD SAY, AS FAR AS WHAT THEIRS GOES.

THEN THE REC DIVISION, THAT ONE ACTUALLY SAW QUITE A BIG DROP THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ONE.

THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH REVENUES ANTICIPATED AND THE EXPENSES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

QUESTIONS ON ABLC.

WE'LL GO INTO THE RECREATION DIVISION.

PREVIOUSLY AS MENTIONED, ABLC TRANSFER, SO THEY HELPED TO OFFSET SUBSIDIZE THE REVENUE EXPENSES.

WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE REVENUE NUMBERS MATCH WITH THE EXPENSE NUMBERS MATCH.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT TRANSFER AMOUNT IN THERE.

AS FAR AS OUR GENERAL PROGRAMS GO, WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT A 56% INCREASE HERE.

THIS IS STRICTLY RELATED TO SOME OF THE NEW PROGRAMS WE'LL BE BRINGING IN AND OUR CURRENT PROGRAM OFFERING AND WHERE THEY FALL WITHIN THE COST RECOVERY.

WE WANTED TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY.

THE BOARD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE SOME OF THESE FALL WITHIN THE TIER OF THE COST RECOVERY.

YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR NOTES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, EACH PROGRAM THAT'S ITEMIZED AS FAR AS THEIR REVENUE WOULD GO.

THAT IS BASED ON THE TIER THAT THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH IF WHETHER IT'S A TIER 1-5, SO THAT WOULD HELP TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF REVENUE IS EXPECTED BASED ON THEIR EXPENSES.

WHETHER IT BE A 25%, 50%, 0%, THOSE ARE ATTRIBUTED IN THERE SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT ITEMIZED YOUTH CAMP.

THIS IS ONE WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT, KEEPING THE SAME FORMAT FOR YOUTH CAMP, AND EIGHT WEEK PROGRAM, ADDITIONAL TO OUR SPRING BREAK CAMP AND OUR ROAD WARRIORS, WE'D SEE CLOSE TO A $10,000 INCREASE THERE.

COMMUNITY SPECIAL EVENTS.

SAME KIND OF THING IS THAT THIS ONE WILL SEE DRASTIC INCREASE IN SOME OF THE NEW PROGRAMS WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFER, TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, ALSO PROVING AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

THAT'S ABOUT $6,000 INCREASE THAT YOU WOULD SEE FOR REVENUE THERE.

DADDY DAUGHTER, THE SAME AND THEN SENIOR PROGRAMS. THIS ONE WAS A DECREASE, BUT WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE THAT A DECREASE IN OUR EXPENSES AS WELL.

BUT THIS IS MAINLY BASED ON THE TRIP SCHEDULE.

WE BROUGHT BEFORE THE SENIOR COMMISSION FY25/26 TRIP SCHEDULE THAT INCLUDES THEIR LUNCH BUNCH,

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THEIR DAY TRIPS, AND THEIR OVERNIGHT TRIPS, AND SO THEY APPROVED THAT, AND SO THAT IS WHERE THIS COMES IN.

BASED ON THE CURRENTLY PLANNED TRIPS FOR NEXT YEAR, THIS IS THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THAT.

I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THIS WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT COST RECOVERY FOR SOME OF THOSE TRIPS AT A 25% COST RECOVERY RATE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS INCLUDED WAS TO PUT THEM IN A 25% COST RECOVERY RATE. QUESTIONS ON THE REVENUE? I'LL HIGHLIGHT JUST SOME OF THE MAIN KEY CHANGES HERE.

NOT A WHOLE LOT AS FAR AS PERSONNEL GOES.

AS FAR AS THE CHANGE IN PERSONNEL COSTS, THE DIFFERENCE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IS VERY MINIMAL.

THE REASON BEING, WHEN THE 2% CLA WAS INCLUDED, THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED INTO THIS.

WE'RE GOING BASED ON THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS THAT WERE PUT INTO PLAY SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT HAD TO BE ADJUSTED SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT DIFFERENCE IN NUMBER.

THE PART TIME EARNINGS WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE.

AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO COST RECOVERY, LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR SUMMER CAMP, BUT THAT IS TIED INTO BRINGING BACK ADDITIONAL REVENUE BECAUSE THERE'S AN INCREASED COST THAT'S ASSOCIATED THERE.

OVERTIME IS ZERO, SO THIS COULD CHANGE IF THE DIRECTION IS GIVEN TO ALLOW OVERTIME TO COME INTO PLAY AGAIN.

MINIMAL COST COMPARED TO WHAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS.

BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT IS A ZERO COST AT THE MOMENT.

>> GOING DOWN HEALTH INSURANCE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES FOR DECREASE.

SO THAT ONE IS BASED ON CURRENT STAFFING.

THIS IS ONE OF THE HARDEST ONES PREDICT BECAUSE THIS ONLY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTS AS THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

AND SO BASED ON OUR CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS, IF ALL FOUR OF THE INDIVIDUALS STAY THE SAME, THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE FOR COST.

SO DRASTIC DIFFERENCE FROM THE YEAR-OVER-YEAR THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED THERE. WORKS COMP.

I MENTIONED THIS ONE FOR PARKS.

THIS IS BASED ON CALCULATIONS PROVIDED BY HR.

SO, PER THEIR GUIDANCE, THIS IS WHAT THE REC DIVISION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE STAYED FAIRLY FLAT.

THE GAS HAS GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, GOING BACK TO AS FAR AS OUR TRIP SCHEDULES GO.

BASED ON WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WE'RE ABLE TO ADJUST ON SOME OF THOSE.

YOUTH CAMPS. I TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT.

WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE AS FAR AS ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATION AND SOME OF THE TRIPS THAT THEY WOULD GO ON.

THEY GO ON TWO FIELD TRIPS A WEEK.

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT INCREASE THERE, BUT THEY DO HAVE, AGAIN, THAT COST RECOVERY OFFSET, SO IT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO RECOUP A PORTION OF THOSE COSTS.

COMMUNITY EVENTS, WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFER A FEW OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS, INCLUDING A SILENT DISCO, PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENTS, AND A NOT-SO-SCARY HAUNTED HOUSE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS ATTRIBUTED THERE.

SENIOR PROGRAMS, AS I MENTIONED, IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DECREASE IN EXPENSES BASED ON THEIR CURRENT SLATE OF PROGRAMS. SO THERE IS THAT OFFSET.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT ATTRIBUTE TO WHY THE DECREASE IN REVENUE.

THERE ARE DECREASE IN EXPENSES ASSOCIATED THERE TOO.

TRAVEL AND TRAINING, TRYING TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THIS ONE AS FAR AS WHAT OPPORTUNITIES STAFF HAVE.

SO THIS ONE, ALSO LAST YEAR, WAS BUDGETED FOR TWO DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRAPS.

WE HAD THE NRPA IN THE SAME YEAR TWICE.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A DRASTIC DECREASE.

THEN THIS ALSO GIVES CERTIFIED STAFF THAT NEED TO MAINTAIN CUS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ONE CONFERENCE, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ATTENDING MORE OF A LOCAL ONE, BEING NEAR A TRAPS CONFERENCE.

ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE A REC SUPERINTENDENT WHO WOULD BE FINISHING OFF A YEAR TWO OF REVENUE MANAGEMENT SCHOOL.

CONTRACT LABOR THAT 5,000% IS NOT CORRECT.

DON'T GET ALARMED BY THAT MEMBER, THAT'S A DRASTIC INCREASE, BUT IT'S NOT WAS ABOUT ABOUT $1,400.

BUT SMALL INCREASE THERE AS FAR AS CONTRACT LABOR GOES, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT CAMP, OUR BUS DRIVERS, AND SOME OF OUR TRIPS.

AGAIN, COST RECOVERY IS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ONES.

THEN YOU'LL SEE OUR SCHOLARSHIP FUND.

WE'RE PUTTING $5,000 IN OUR SCHOLARSHIP FUND FOR THIS YEAR VERSUS 03,000 YEARS PASS TO HELP TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, AS DOCTOR JACKSON MENTIONED, WHILE THERE WOULD BE THIS ONE NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT FOR OUR PROGRAMS WITH COST RECOVERY.

IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS,

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THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM STILL ATTENDING.

YOU'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN VEHICLE INSURANCE, BASED ON THE BREAKDOWN FROM HR FOR THE FOUR VEHICLES, THAT WOULD BE UNDER RECREATION DIVISION.

THAT WOULD BE WE GOT A NEW VAN THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE A ONE TAHOE AND THEN THE TWO BUSES.

THEN THESE PAYMENTS, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THAT IS YOUR BIGGEST DECREASE.

WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ABOUT JUST UNDER $15,000 COMPARED TO THE $42,000 THAT WE HAD FOR THE PAST.

YOU'LL SEE A DRASTIC SAVINGS ATTRIBUTED THERE.

FOR AN OVERALL DECREASE, THERE IS ABOUT $52,000 FOR THE YEAR.

QUESTIONS ON REC DIVISION. ANGLETON REC CENTER.

AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, AS FAR AS THE TPW GRANTS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE REVENUE SIDE OF THESE, PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE FACILITY AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT SOME MORE OF OUR REVENUES.

WE STILL ANTICIPATE, AS WE'VE SEEN YEAR OVER YEAR, A STEADY INCREASE IN MEMBERSHIPS.

HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THERE MAY BE AN IMPACT IF THE FACILITIES CLOSE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

SPECIFICALLY, THE POOL, WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING ANYWHERE 4-6 6-WEEK CLOSURE.

THAT WILL TYPICALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON MEMBERSHIP.

IT SHOULD BE SHORT-LIVED, BUT WE TRIED TO KEEP THAT IN ACCOUNT AND DON'T WANT TO OVERPROJECT AND BE WORRYING ABOUT NOT BRINGING IN THE APPROPRIATE REVENUE.

WE STILL ANTICIPATE THE SAME THING AND INCREASE FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIPS.

THIS TRIBUTES BACK TO THE DAY PASS ONE.

WE REALLY HOPE TO PUSH THAT SIDE OF IT TO PUSH PEOPLE TO GET A MEMBERSHIP.

THAT'S WHERE WE THINK THAT A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUAL ONES WILL START TO INCREASE FROM THERE.

SENIOR PROGRAM CONTINUES TO GROW, WE CONTINUE TO SEE GREAT TRACTION THERE, SO ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE THERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, ROOM RENTALS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE HIT THE HARDEST.

IF THE POOL IS CLOSED, THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE IS, BEING PARTY PACKAGES.

THAT ONE, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD TAKE A HIT BECAUSE THE POOL NOT BEING OPEN.

WE ANTICIPATE HAVING SOME RENOVATIONS DONE IN THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.

IF THOSE AREN'T LINED UP AT THE SAME TIME, THAT MAY HAVE A SMALL IMPACT AS WELL.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE A DECREASE THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.

>> FOR A SECOND.

>> YEAH.

>> NO CONSISTENCY I'M FEELING HERE.

YOU SAID YOU WANT MEMBERSHIPS TO GO UP?

>> YES.

>> THE DAY PASSES TO GO DOWN BECAUSE OF THEY'RE SWITCHING OVER.

>> IT'S NOT TO SAY DAY PASSES, WE WANT DAY PASSES TO GO DOWN.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT'S [OVERLAPPING] GOING TO CONVERT TO THAT? BUT WE SHOULD STILL SEE A STEADY ON OUR DAY PASSES.

>> I THINK IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO GO TO A MEMBERSHIP STYLE, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE YOUR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIPS OR YOUR DAILIES GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE PROJECTED SOME OF IT IS TO GO DOWN.

THE HARD PART THAT'S GOING TO BE THIS YEAR IS FIRST YEAR GOING INTO THE NEW FEE INCREASE.

SECOND IS THE RENOVATIONS.

>> AND THE RENOVATIONS WILL TAKE HOW LONG?

>> IT COULD TAKE ABOUT SIX WEEKS FOR THE POOL.

>> THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR DAY USAGE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST UTILIZED.

> WHEN DO WE SEE THAT HAPPEN?

>> THE HOPE IS IN THE FALL AND WINTER, BECAUSE THAT IS THE LEAST UTILIZED TIME.

BUT IF THAT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH SCHEDULING, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE NEXT SUMMER.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHEN THAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY ANOTHER YEAR.

THIS IS WHERE SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE.

>> WHY DID WE DELAY THIS YEAR?

>> THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE GRANT.

IT'S TIED TO THE FUNDING OF THE GRANT, AND THE AGREEMENT COULDN'T BE EXECUTED IN TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO ENSURE THAT THEY WOULD HELP SUPPORT THAT PORTION OF IT.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT SOME MEMBERS ARE GOING TO GET UPSET AND ASK FOR A CREDIT DURING THE TIME? ARE YOU TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT?

>> THEY MAY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT AND BE CONSERVATIVE WITH SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS WE SAW $130,000 IN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP REVENUE LAST YEAR.

WE'RE EVEN BELOW THAT NUMBER.

SOME OF THOSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT PIECE.

WE ANTICIPATE THERE MAY BE A PIECE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND WE SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO OFFSET THEM.

ONCE IT'S IN, WE ANTICIPATE REVENUE TO INCREASE FROM THAT,

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KNOWING THAT WE CAN PUSH IT AGAIN.

WE'RE HOPING THAT'S WHERE THE SELF COMES FROM.

>> OKAY.

>> BUT YEAH, THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING YEAR AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

BUT ROLLING RIGHT IN THE DAY PASS, WE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT LOWER JUST BECAUSE DAY PASS WILL BE IMPACTED BY SOME OF OUR CLOSURES.

SAME THING AS IF WE DO RENOVATIONS IN THE GYM, THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT DAY PASSES SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GYM.

WE'RE TRYING TO BEST TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THOSE.

SOME OF THOSE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO DO.

OTHER STATE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT FULL TRANSFER AS FAR AS THAT TOTAL FROM ABLC.

LAST PIECE FOR THEIRS IS MISCELLANEOUS PROGRAMS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AS FAR AS THE MISCELLANEOUS PROGRAMS GO.

RECOGNIZING THAT A, THE CLOSURE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE WINTER MONTHS, IMPACT SOME OF THIS.

WE'RE TRYING TO FINE-TUNE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AGAIN, SWIM LESSONS GO INTO A COST RECOVERY.

THAT TIES SPECIFICALLY TO THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THINGS.

THEN I WILL POINT OUT THE TRANSFER FROM THE FUND BALANCE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD A $100,000 FUND BALANCE.

THIS DOES NOT BY ANY MEANS SAY THAT WE WILL HAVE $100,000.

WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT IN THERE TO ACCOUNT FOR IF THERE WAS AN EXTRA NEED FOR IT.

WE HAVE A LINE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THIS WOULD BE ADJUSTED BASED ON WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT FUND BALANCES WOULD BE TO DETERMINE IF THAT, AND WE WOULD STILL COME TO THE BOARD TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSES THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THAT.

WHEN WE GO INTO OUR EXPENDITURES FOR THE ARC, YOU'LL SEE MOST THINGS STAY FLAT.

AGAIN, SMALL INCREASE ON REGULAR EARNINGS THAT'S TIED TO THE FROM THIS PREVIOUS YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT LINES UP PART-TIME EARNINGS.

THIS IS THE ONE, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

THE EXPENDITURES FOR EACH SPECIFIC AREA.

WHETHER FOR THE FRONT DESK, ABOUT 28,000 FOR FACILITY ASSISTANCE, LIFEGUARDS, IS THAT LARGE INCREASE? THIS WOULD BE A FULL YEAR, NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FUTURE CHANGES.

WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTORS.

THEN WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE OUR STEP PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE A 0.25 RAISE FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN WITH PART TIME INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A YEAR AS OF OCTOBER 1.

THEN ADDITION TO THAT IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE TIME AND REVENUE.

WE'RE EXPANDING OUR PRIVATE PARTY PACKAGES TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THOSE THROUGH MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE WARMER MONTHS, TO BE ABLE TO [NOISE] STAFF THOSE.

HOPING THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE RENTALS ON THAT SIDE, SO WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE REVENUE PIECE THAT IS ASSOCIATED THERE.

THE FICA, YOU'LL SEE, IS AN INCREASE.

THAT ONE IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE STAFF INCREASE FOR LIFEGUARDS.

THAT IS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

HEALTH INSURANCE, HOWEVER, DID GO DOWN.

AGAIN, THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THE STAFF WE HAVE IN PLACE, SO THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE FOR THE FUTURE.

THIS WOULD ATTRIBUTE FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE INSURANCE.

WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL STAY CONSISTENT.

WORKERS' COMP, UNFORTUNATELY, PER HR'S BREAKDOWN.

THIS ONE HAD A DRASTIC CHANGE.

THEY DO EMPLOY THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, AND BEING THAT THEY ARE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AND THE SAFETY-SENSITIVE POSITION, THE WORKERS' COMP COST IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR THEM.

THAT DOES ATTRIBUTE TO THIS COST AS WELL.

THEN MEDICAL EXPENSES THIS IS THE COVER DRUG TESTING AND EXAM.

SO BECAUSE WE'RE WOULD BE EMPLOYING MORE STAFF, THAT PART INCREASED AS WELL.

YOU'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE FOR CHEMICAL SUPPLIES YEAR OVER YEAR, JUST INFLATION TYPICALLY HAPPENS.

WE ACCOUNT FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE.

HOWEVER, WE DID DECREASE OUR CLEANING SUPPLIES.

WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THOSE FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE CLEANING SERVICE THAT WE USE.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

>> CAN I ASK YOU REAL QUICK ON CHEMICAL SUPPLIES?

>> YEAH.

>> LOOKING AT THE TREND, WE'RE AT 23, 24, 23, 28, AND 29.

WHY WERE WE ABLE TO STAY FLAT FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN JUMP TO 28 AND THEN 29,

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FOR THE SAME WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING?

>> SOME OF IT, WE DIDN'T.

CHEMICALS SAW A DRASTIC INCREASE.

THERE WAS ONE YEAR THAT THERE WAS A LARGER-THAN-NORMAL INCREASE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO STARTED TO SEE MORE USES OF THE FACILITY.

SO IF YOU LOOK BACK, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT WE SAW A GOOD INCREASE IN OUR REVENUE.

THE BETA LOAD IN THE FACILITY IMPACTS THAT HEAVILY.

THE MORE PEOPLE IN THE SUMMER, THE MORE CHEMICALS THAT IS SPIT OUT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE WERE ABLE TO DECREASE SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES.

SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT, STILL ESPECIALLY OUR STRENGTH EQUIPMENT, IS NEWER, AND SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY REPAIRS, KNOCK ON WOOD FOR THAT ONE.

SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY KEEP THAT ONE LOWER.

WE DECREASE SOME OF OUR SMALL EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES.

WE WERE ABLE TO STAY OUT OF THE HARM'S WAY AS FAR AS ANY OF THE COMPUTERS GOING DOWN.

WE'RE ABLE TO UPGRADE ONE OF THEM RECENTLY, SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT SAME NEED IN THE FUTURE EQUIPMENTS.

THIS IS TO BRING BACK EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS FOR CARDIO EQUIPMENT.

SO THIS WOULD BE THREE TREADMILLS AND TWO ELLIPTICALS.

TO CONTINUE THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SIDE FOR THE EQUIPMENT SPECIFICALLY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WENT UP IN PRICE.

WE SAW ABOUT A $2,000 INCREASE FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR, SO POOL MAINTENANCE.

THIS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT ONE TO DO.

WE BUDGET FORWARD EVERY YEAR AND KNOCK ON WOOD AND HOPE AND PRAY THAT NOTHING HAPPENS.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A DRASTIC DROP IN COST.

BUT THAT JUST MEANS A MOTOR IS COMING SOON.

THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO BUDGET FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING GOES DOWN FOR THE POOL, WE CAN GET THAT UP AND RUNNING PRETTY QUICK.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE CONSISTENT AS FAR AS THE REQUEST.

MAINTENANCE STANDARD.

THIS IS THE BIG ONE.

HVAC. ONCE WE GOT OUT OF OUR WARRANTY FOR HVAC, THAT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT CONSISTENT PROBLEMS. WE HAVE MOVED MONEY, AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SEE AS FAR AS DECREASES GO, WE TRIED TO STAY ON CLOSE BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THEM DOWN BELOW AS WELL.

BUT WE'VE HAD TO MOVE MONEY INTO THIS.

WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN SPENDING 50 TO $60,000 ON HVAC EACH YEAR.

THEY HAVE JUST CONTINUED TO BE PROBLEMS. WE'RE NOT CLOSE IN A REPLACEMENT FOR THOSE.

WE'RE HOPEFUL TO GET AHEAD OF THIS, AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE MAJOR CHANGE THERE.

BUT WE DO ATTRIBUTE FOR ONE OF OUR LIT ITEMS FURTHER DOWN.

YOU'LL SEE A SMALL DECREASE IN UTILITIES.

THIS ONE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD A PROJECT FOR LED THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING AND REDUCE SOME OF OUR LIGHTING, WE SHOULD SEE A GOOD RETURN ON THAT FOR OUR UTILITIES, SO THAT MAY BE ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS.

THAT ONE REALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN THOSE RENOVATIONS TAKE PLACE.

>> WHY IS THAT GOING UP SO MUCH? WE ARE IN A SEVEN-YEAR CONTRACT THAT KICKED IN IN 2020.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT JUST USAGE?

>> USAGE.

>> IT'S A BIG CHANGE IN USAGE.

>> IF YOU LOOK BACK, THOUGH, UTILITIES USED TO BE 94,000.

IT'S TRYING JUST TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT, AND SOME OF IT'S BEING HOW HOT IT IS.

IF WE HAVE AN EXTREME SUMMER.

THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD FOR OUR UNITS IS THEY DON'T TURN OFF.

THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE SIDE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE HOPEFUL TO DO WITH THE GRANT IS UPGRADE OUR BAS SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE OUR UNITS RUN A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

WE HAVE AN OUTDATED BAS SYSTEM.

IF WE ADDRESS THAT WITH THE GRANT FUNDING, THAT SHOULD HELP REDUCE SOME OF THOSE COSTS ASSOCIATED AS WELL.

>> HOW MANY OF THOSE AC SYSTEMS ARE STILL UNDER WARRANTY?

>> ZERO.

>> WE JUST REPLACED ONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, RIGHT?

>> WE REPLACED ALL OF THEM IN 2017, 2018.

>> WHAT WAS THE WARRANTY PERIOD ON THAT?

>> FIVE YEARS? UNFORTUNATELY.

>> MOST OF THE COMPANIES WE'VE WORKED WITH JUST SAID WE'RE TOO CLOSE TO THE COAST AND JUST HOPE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO KICK ALONG AND THE WEAR AND TEAR.

>> SAME RULE STORY. SAME EVERYWHERE.

>> DO USING SUBSCRIPTIONS SAY THE SAME? TRAVEL AND TRAINING, YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE THERE.

IT GOES BACK TO, I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

THIS WOULD ATTRIBUTE FOR ANYBODY CERTIFIED TO ATTEND ONE TRAINING.

WE DON'T HAVE TWO MAJOR CONFERENCES THIS YEAR, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE.

WE'LL POINT OUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE REQUESTING IS THE DECISION PACKAGE.

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AS FAR AS CONTRACT CLEANING, WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ADD A PORTER IN THE SUMMER IN THE EVENINGS.

THAT IS OUR BUSIEST TIME, JUST HELPS THEM GET AHEAD OF IT.

THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT 36,000 THAT'LL JUST COME AS AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST.

OUR REC SOFTWARE, YOU'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE EXPLORING IS THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS WHERE THE CURRENT SOFTWARE.

THEY HAVE OTHER FEATURES AND OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEY ARE ADD ONS, AND THEY ARE VERY COSTLY.

AN EXAMPLE IS, WE LOOKED AT GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD DOCUMENTS TO PROFILES, AND IT WAS GOING TO DOUBLE OUR COST VERSUS GOING WITH A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF WHAT WE WOULD SPEND, SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THERE THAT'S GOING TO OFFER A MORE ROBUST PLATFORM STILL IN PRELIMINARY PHASES THERE, BUT INCLUDED IT INTO THIS BUDGET.

CREDIT CARD FEES. I WILL POINT THIS ONE OUT.

ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD EVEN WITH SOME OF THE SOFTWARE COMPANIES IS EXPLORING IF WE MOVE AWAY FROM GETTING CHARGED CREDIT CARD FEES, OR IF THEY END UP PAYING US ESSENTIALLY.

YOUR TWO OPTIONS IS THAT WE PAY THE FEE AND WE RECEIVE ALL THE FUNDING, OR THEY WOULD ACTUALLY RECEIVE THE FUNDING AND CUT US A CHECK.

WHAT THAT DOES IS CUTS OUT THE IN BETWEEN OF THEY WOULD INCUR THE CREDIT CARD FEES, AND WE JUST WON'T HAVE TRACKING FOR THAT.

PROS AND CONS IS THAT MORE PEOPLE USE CREDIT CARDS, AND THE MORE CREDIT CARDS ARE USED IS THE MORE COST ASSOCIATED.

THE OTHER OPTION TO EXPLORE IS SOME PLACES ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT AND PUTTING A SERVICE CHARGE ON THE USAGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE DAY PASSES, A CREDIT CARD FEE AND A DAY PASS, THEY'RE JUST CONSTANT.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE HAS INCREASED OVER TIME.

THE GOOD AND BAD IS THE MORE CREDIT CARD FEES USUALLY MEANS OUR REVENUE IS BETTER, SO IT'S LIKE AN OFFSET BUT IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THAT AREA.

INSURANCE, YOU'LL SEE A SMALL DECREASE HERE, SO I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH SUSIE AND FINANCE TO STREAMLINE SOME OF THIS OF WHERE SOME OF OUR COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED.

THIS ACCOUNTS FOR OUR CRIME, GENERAL LIABILITY AND CYBER IS INCLUDED HERE.

WE ACTUALLY SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A DECREASE THERE.

BUILDING INSURANCE.

WE HAVE HOPEFULLY, FOUND A SWEET SPOT THAT WENT THERE.

YOU'LL SEE IF YOU LOOK BACK, I THINK THAT WAS '22-'23.

WE HAD HAD ABOUT A $20,000 INCREASE, AND WE WERE ANTICIPATING THAT WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, SO IT'S LEVELED OUT.

BASED ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGETS AND WHAT WAS TABLED FOR THIS YEAR, THIS ACCOUNTS FOR A 3% INCREASE BASED ON WHAT WAS CHARGED THIS YEAR.

WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A COST SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR BUILDING INSURANCE.

SAY THE SAME CONTINGENCY.

I MENTIONED THAT ONE THAT'S REFERS TO THE FUND BALANCE.

IF FUND BALANCE CHANGES, THIS NUMBER WOULD CHANGE AS WELL, SO THAT WOULD TIE THE TWO TOGETHER.

REFUNDS. THIS ONE WE'RE HOPING THAT MAY GO AWAY IN THE FUTURE.

THIS ONE, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN TIE THAT TO A DEFERRED REVENUE ACCOUNT.

THIS IS DIRECTLY TIED TO RENTALS.

WHEN SOMEBODY RENTS A PAVILION OR A SPACE IN THE REC CENTER, THEY HAVE A DEPOSIT.

WELL, IF THEY RENTED IT SIX MONTHS AGO, CIVIC REC DOESN'T LIKE THAT, AND IT NO LONGER ALLOWS YOU TO PROVIDE A REFUND TO THEIR CREDIT CARD, AND SO YOU HAVE TO DO A CHECK REFUND.

THAT'S THIS SIDE OF IT. WHEREAS IF WE PUT IN A DEFERRED REVENUE, IT COULD TIE TO THAT ACCOUNT, AND IT WOULDN'T SHOW AS AN EXPENSE.

BUT BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE AN EXPENSE TIED TO IT, IT STAYS IN REVENUE.

IT JUST SHOWS AN EXPENSE IN A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT.

WE WANT TO BE IN THE SAME ACCOUNT, SO THAT ONE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S OFFSET WHETHER IT'S IN THE REVENUE OR EXPENSE, IT'S THERE.

THAT'S NOT A COPY MACHINE THAT'S OUR PRINTER.

THAT'S BETTER. OVERALL INCREASE OF ABOUT $30,000.

BUT CONSIDERING OUR INCREASE FROM, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 60,000-70,000 FOR STAFFING.

WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS BACK IN JUNE, SO CAN BRING ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BACK OR REQUESTS THAT YOU'D LIKE.

>> TO SAY, AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE VISUALIZATION THINGS BECAUSE

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IT'S LIKE UNDERSTANDING HOW WE HAVE BROKEN UP INTO HERE'S THE REVENUES, AND THEN WE GO INTO THE EXPENSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF JUST, LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST ONE SUCH, HEY, HERE'S THE POOL.

HOW MUCH WE SPENT ON IT? THIS IS HOW MUCH WE BROUGHT IN FOR IT.

HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE, SO WE CAN WE GET IT BY PROJECT INSTEAD OF LINE BY LINE, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

>> THEY GAVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION, WHICH IS GOOD.

BUT ONE THING I LIKE TO DO IS, AS THEY HAD A DIFFERENT BUCKETS BETWEEN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, AND PAYROLL AND PERSONNEL, I LIKE TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE DOWN SOMETIME, SO YOU DON'T SEE ALL THE DETAIL.

JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING IN THESE BUCKETS.

BUT THEY HAVE DONE THAT FOR THE MOST PART WITH THE REC CENTER.

HERE'S YOUR COST FOR THE REC CENTER.

HERE'S YOUR COST FOR RIGHT AWAY, AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ACCOUNTS.

IF WE CONSOLIDATE IT DOWN, IT'D BE A LOT EASIER FOR YOU TO DIGEST TO THERE.

WHEN YOU'RE SEEING THE ROLL UP NUMBERS, THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS SAY, HERE'S THE DETAIL.

YOU GO RIGHT BACK INTO THE DETAIL.

I GET IT, THOUGH. THAT'S HOW I HAVE TO DO IT WHENEVER I'M APPROACHING THE CITY BUDGET.

IT'S JUST PICK IT OFF THAT WAY OTHERWISE, YOU GET LOST IN THE DATA SOMETIMES.

>> YOU SAID ABOUT CREDIT CARD EVERY TIME SOMEBODY USE IT EVERY COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO PAY A FEE TO USE CREDIT CARD.

YOU HAVE A ATM MACHINE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR, THOUGH.

IT'S EITHER CHECK OR CREDIT CARD, OR BAD IT.

>> DIDN'T THEY MAKE THAT OUT? THEY MAKE ATM?

>> YEAH, THEY TOOK IT OUT. FREE CHECK, EVERYBODY GOES.

WHO HAS CHECKS ANYMORE. YEAH.

>> SO EVERY TIME THEY RUN A TRANSACTION AND THAT'S A LOT IT DEPENDS ON THE ORGANIZATION.

SOME PASS THAT FEE OFF TO THE USERS, AND CURRENTLY WE JUST CONSUME THAT FEE.

AND SO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE RATE OF WHAT YOU'RE BEING CHARGED.

AND SO IF YOU'RE BEING CHARGED 3%, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE 3%, YOU COULD SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE AND SAY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME HALF AND THEY'RE GOING TO ASSUME HALF.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW DEEP YOU WANT TO GET INTO IT.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AND IF YOUR BUDGETS TIGHT AND YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

AND IN A WAY, CASH IS STILL KING.

AND SO IF YOU PAY CASH, THERE'S NO TRANSACTION FEE ASSOCIATED.

>> YOU CAN DO LIKE IN GAS STATIONS.

YOU COULD DO A CASH FEE AND A CREDIT FEE.

YEAH. $5 FOR CASH AND $6 FOR CREDIT.

>> THERE'S THIS HUGE DEBATE ON ODS ON FACEBOOK.

AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT GUYS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE BIG DEBATE IS IS THAT, DO YOU ACTUALLY PUSH IT OFF TO THE PATIENT TO PAY THE CREDIT CARD FEE OR DO YOU NOT? BECAUSE IT COULD LEAVE A REALLY BAD TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH.

SOMEONE COMES INTO THE OFFICE, AND THIS IS HOW MUCH IT COSTS.

BY THE WAY, IT'S MORE.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS SOMETIMES, LIKE, IN MY CASE, IN SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS CASE, WE JUST EAT THAT.

WE JUST TRY TO SHOP AROUND AND GET THE BEST MERCHANT CREDIT CARD POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN ABSORB THE COST AS OPPOSED TO PATCH IT ONTO THE.

>> THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS IF YOU ADVERTISE THAT.

MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IT'S $5 CASH OR $6 CREDIT.

THEY KNOW THEY'RE MAKING THAT CHOICE.

>> BECAUSE MANY TIMES, I'VE TRIED.

>> CHOSE TO MAKE THAT STATION ON THAT.

>> I'M I SEE THAT. I'M LIKE, YEAH.

OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE, OH, 399, 390 WHATEVER, I'M LIKE, OH, IT'S 429 OR WHATEVER.

>> LIKE ELECTRIC COMPANIES, BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE THAT DELIVERY CHARGES YOU GET FROM TEXAS TO MEXICO.

EVERY TIME YOU CALL THEM, YOUR RETAIL COMPANY, THEY SAY, OH, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE GOT FROM THEM, AND WE JUST THEY'RE JUST PASSING IT ON.

IT'S LIKE, YOU HAVE TO CALL BUT IF YOU CALL TEX IN MEXICO, THEY WILL TALK TO YOU.

>> BUT FORTUNATELY, I'M THAT GENERATION, THAT BABY BOOMER GENERATION, WHICH MEANS I STILL KNOW HOW TO WRITE A CHECK.

GUYS' KNOW HOW TO WRITE CHECKS, FOR US, IT'S LIKE, OH, I'M GOOD.

I JUST WRITE A CHECK FOR IT INSTEAD.

>> I WILL SAY, AS YOU MENTIONED, CHAPERON, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WHEN WE STARTED TO SEE THE INCREASE HAPPEN TWO YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD CREDIT CARD TERMINALS ON SITE, AND WE HAVE THE TRANSACTIONS THAT RUN THROUGH CIVIC ENGAGE OR CIVIC REC.

THE ONSITE TERMINALS IS A REDUCED FEE FOR US.

WE RECOGNIZE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST DOING DAY PASSES WHICH DON'T REQUIRE A REFUND ASSOCIATED.

THAT'S THE CAVEAT THAT COMES WITH IT IS WE HAVE THAT CHEAPER OPTION,

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BUT THEN WE STILL HAVE THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO A REFUND ON THE TERMINAL UNLESS IT'S THAT DAY.

RENTALS THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THAT DAY IN THE EVENT THAT A MEMBERSHIP NEEDS ONE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAD TO HAVE BOTH, BUT WE TRIED TO TACKLE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, YOU SEE MORE BUSINESS AND MORE PEOPLE USING CREDIT CARDS.

IT'S JUST PART OF DOING BUSINESS.

>> SOMEONE IS A DAY PASS USER.

IF THEIR CREDIT CARD GOT CHARGED EVERY TIME THEY DID IT, IF THEY USE A CREDIT CARD, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE WORTH IT TO THEM TO GET A MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY ONE TIME OR.

>> THEY WOULD PAY A ONE TIME.

>> EVERY QUARTERLY OR WHATEVER HOWEVER THEY DO IT.

YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A SIGN THAT THEY COULD SEE SAYING, IF YOU DONATE TO THE CHURCH WITH THE CREDIT CARD, YOU GET THE OPTION OF PAYING, SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? NO PAY THAT FEE.

YOU GOT TO PAY THAT FEE TOO.

YOU JUST KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

>> SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> I'VE SEEN TWO THINGS REAL QUICK.

IS ONE, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EITHER VENMO OR CASH APP YOU GET AROUND THOSE.

>> TRUE.

>> THEN ALSO, WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE 3,000 A MONTH IN CREDIT CARD FEES BY SWITCHING OVER TO PAYPAL.

SO IT'S LINKED TO OUR BANK ACCOUNT.

IT RUNS THROUGH PAYPAL.

WHEN THE CREDIT CARD GOES AND GETS RUN, IT'S GOING THROUGH PAYPAL AND INTO THE BANK ACCOUNT, AND THAT'S SAVING US ABOUT 2%.

WE WERE SENDING. SOME IT DEPARTMENT CAME UP WITH.

>> WHO WANTS TO MAKE THE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES RICHER.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, FEEDBACK?

>> YEAH, MY CURIOSITY WOULD BE, LIKE AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THESE CIP PROJECTS AND THEIR PROGRESS.

WE ARE IN THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.

ANYTHING THAT WE CAN CHECK OFF? THAT SORT OF THING. THEN ANYWAYS WE CAN FACILITATE I KNOW EXPEDITING ANY OF THESE MATTERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO FACILITATE.

>> BRING UP A GOOD POINT BECAUSE LIKE TEXTI AND TRAIL CAME IN IN THE BUDGET.

THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT.

THE CONTRACT HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED, SO UNTIL THEY GET TO THAT STEP TO FINALIZE THAT PIECE, THAT'LL GIVE US MIND AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS.

BUT I CAN DEFINITELY BRING AN UPDATE TO OUR NEXT ONE.

SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT ONE SHOULD BE MUCH FARTHER ALONG THAN WE ARE TODAY.

>> I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE THE NEXT ABLC TAKE ONE OR TWO PARKS AND LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE PARK.

WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR IT? WHAT'S THE SPENDING HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE CIP? ARE WE ADDRESSING EVERY NEED? AND IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE PARKS AND RECORD BOARD ON WHAT THEY'VE SEEN AS WELL.

>> I CAN BRING THAT TO THEIR. THEY'LL MEET BEFORE WE WILL IN JUNE, SO.

>> JUST START GOING AND HITTING EVERY PARK AND LOOKING AT THEM.

>> BACK OF THE CREDIT CARD, THING HOW ABOUT THE DEBIT CARD? THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION, TOO, RIGHT TO DO DEBIT.

THAT WOULDN'T BE A FEE.

>> IT STILL WILL HAVE A FEE HERE.

>> BUT THE ELECTRONIC CHECK A LOT OF TIMES DOES NOT.

>> IT IS NOT.

>> WHICH I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO EXPLORE THE ELECTRONIC CHECK.

>> WE HAVE THAT.

>> I THINK IT'S JUST EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT, HEY, THIS IS FREE.

>> THAT SOUNDS COOL.

>> ELECTRONIC CHECK.

>> YOU'RE NOT USING A DEBIT CARD.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ELECTRONIC CHECK? YOU WRITE A CHECK.

>> ACCOUNT NUMBER.

>> OH, YEAH, LIKE YOU DO OVER THE PHONE.

YOU GOT TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOUR PHONE.

>> HAVE A MEMORIZE.

>> YEAH GOT MY MEMORIZE.

>> FOR NEXT MEETING, WE HAVE UPDATE ON CAP PROJECTS, CORRECT? AND THEN JOHN YOURS, BREAKDOWN PARKS, THE NEEDS, THINGS WE CAN ADDRESS, TACKLE?

>> YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERY PART.

>> ONE OR TWO OF THEM.

>> YEAH. DEEP DIVE IT.

>> AND THEN BRING THAT WITH PARKS AND BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.

AND THEN AS FAR AS BUDGET GOES, I'LL UPDATE TO PROVIDE THAT 6.5%, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW THAT IMPACTS CONTINGENCY, AS WELL AS FULL SCOPE OF HOW IF WE ADDED THOSE POSITIONS BACK IN,

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HOW THAT IMPACTS THAT TRANSFER AS WELL.

>> WHEN DID WE DO THE CHANGE IN PRICING? WAS THAT FEBRUARY?

>> FOR WHICH ONE?

>> THE REC CENTER.

>> FOR THE FEE SCHEDULE, THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT JUNE 1.

SO WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROGRAM SEASON.

THAT'S FEE SCHEDULE.

MEMBERSHIP DAY PASS RENTALS, AND THEN COST RECOVERY WILL GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1.

THAT'LL BE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE?

>> WELL, I THINK I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON SORRY, JOHN'S POINT. SORRY.

>> YOU'RE GOOD.

>> IS IF WE PICK ONE OR TWO NEXT TIME, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME THE FOLLOWING ONE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS CLEAR.

I PROBABLY SAID THAT AFTERWARDS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE? WE WILL ADJOURN AT 6:57.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Apr 21, 2025 Angleton Better Living Corporation

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