Jul 08, 2025 City Council

>> MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I'M GOING TO GO START OVER THERE.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY. WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. THANK YOU.

>> HOWDY. MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS SABINO GONZALEZ.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY BROTHER MANUEL GONZALEZ.

HE APOLOGIZES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.

OBVIOUSLY, HE IS WANTING TO GET THIS APPROVED FOR HIS MOBILE HOME PARK TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE SIX ADDITIONAL LOTS.

HE SAID, I THINK BEFORE THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE, YOU GUYS SOMEONE SUGGESTED THAT HE DEVELOP A LEASE AND GET THAT IMPLEMENTED WITH ALL THE TENANTS.

HE SAID THE LEASE IS IMPLEMENTED AND HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ALL THE CURRENT TENANTS TO SIGN IT.

I THINK THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF WHAT HE HAD TOLD ME TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, AND HE JUST WANTED TO AGAIN, APOLOGIZE.

WITH THE TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED IN KERVILLE THIS WEEK, HE WAS MOVED AND HE WAS ABLE TO RAISE A LARGE SUM OF MONEY YESTERDAY.

HE IS ACTUALLY IN KERVILLE NOW HAND DELIVERING IT TO TWO OF THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THERE HELPING PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

THAT'S WHY HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER HE SAID WE CAN CALL HIM AND YOU CAN TALK TO HIM OVER THE PHONE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.

>> WELL, WE'LL ENGAGE WITH YOU AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER.

BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

I REALLY LIKE TO DIVE INTO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU.

YOU MENTIONED THAT HE IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE LEASES DONE, DID ANY OF THAT GET SUBMITTED, OR IS IT JUST HE'S WORKING ON IT?

>> HE TOLD ME THE LEASE IS COMPLETED, AND HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE CURRENT TENANTS TO ALL SIGN OFF ON IT.

>> OTIS, HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THIS?

>> WE HAVE NOT, BUT I THINK IT'S FITTING TO ADD A CONDITION THAT ANY MAINTENANCE, STANDARD OPERATION PLAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND BE KEPT ON RECORD.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE WERE HOPING THAT HE WOULD ESTABLISH FOR THE RESIDENTS.

>> MR. OTIS, WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST MEETING?

>> NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU LAST TIME.

I THINK THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA REFLECTED WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUGGESTED IN TERMS OF FOUR LOTS, SO WE CORRECTED THAT TO THE SIX IN WHICH ARE DRAWN ON THE GRAPHIC EXHIBIT IN TERMS OF WHAT HE'S PROPOSING.

THEN THE CONDITIONS TO PUT THE SCREENING TO BLOCK THE REAR SO THAT YOU WILL NOT SEE THE PROPOSED MOBILE HOMES FROM HENDERSON.

ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS REMAIN THE SAME.

>> WHEN YOU SAY ALL THE CONDITIONS, ALL THE CONDITIONS PROPOSED BY PLANNING AND ZONING?

>> THESE WERE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

IF YOU RECALL, THEY DENIED THE CASE.

IT WAS ONLY ONE POSITIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE.

BUT WE TYPICALLY WOULD LAY OUT AN ORDINANCE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND JUST IN CASE YOU WERE TO APPROVE IT, WE TRY TO CARRY THAT OVER IN THE CLEANEST VERSION POSSIBLE.

THEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY THEIR RECOMMENDATION,

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AND ALSO ADD ANY CONDITIONS TO THAT ORDINANCE.

>> I'M LOOKING AT, I DON'T KNOW, PAGE 31 HERE SAYS.

CONDITIONS, ONE IS RESTRICTED TO FOUR MANUFACTURED HOME SPACES.

>> I THINK YOU'RE READING THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ORDINANCE WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERING.

>> WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN SIX.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, I'M MOVING TOWARDS ARE THESE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING OR TO PLANNING AND ZONING IMPLEMENTED IN THIS ZONING CHANGE?

>> THEY'RE CARRIED OVER IN THE ORDINANCE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHANGE OF THE MOTION IN WHICH YOU'RE READING BY ONE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, THAT WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I'M SORRY. I HAVE A TOUGH TIME HEARING YOU.

>> THE REFERENCE TO THE FOUR MOBILE HOMES WAS A MOTION WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ENTERTAINED.

THAT WOULD HAVE CHANGED IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE ENTERTAINING TONIGHT.

CORRECT. BUT THE OTHER ITEMS, LIKE THE OWNERSHIP FIRE MINOR SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IS THAT BEING INCLUDED?

>> THOSE ARE INCLUDED. YES, SIR.

>> ALL FIRE HYDRANT REQUIREMENTS ON SITE MUST BE MET BY THE APPLICANT? THIS IS ITEM 3. THE APPLICANT SHOULD POST NO PARKING SIGNAGE ALONG MAXIE LANE, BUT THE ONE WAY SIGN AT THE PUBLIC INTERSECTIONS?

>> WE TALKED ABOUT MAXIE LANE, WHICH IS A PRIVATE DRIVE, AND THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED AT THAT TIME THAT CANNOT BE ENFORCED BY AN ENTITY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO REMOVE ALL OF THOSE UNLESS THE OWNERS AGREEING TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY IF THE OWNER AGREES TO DO THAT, THEN YOU CAN LEAVE THOSE IN.

FOR EXAMPLE, PD CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND CITE SOMEONE FOR GOING DOWN A ONE WAY ROAD IF IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE. THAT'S THE DILEMMA.

THE PURPOSES OF THOSE WAS BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC FLOW AND SAFETY ISSUES ONLY, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A HIGHLY TRAVEL PRIVATE DRIVE.

IT'S USUALLY THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ACCESSING THEIR UNITS.

>> WELL, WHAT ABOUT COMPLYING WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS?

>> STILL THAT'S IN YOUR ORDINANCE IN THE REAR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING AND THAT STILL IS APPROPRIATE.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES, AND THE APPLICANT DOES UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHAT YOU WOULD BE VOTED ON WOULD BE ON PAGE 34 OF THE AGENDA, THOSE CONDITIONS CARRIED OVER IN THE ORDINANCE.

>> BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT PAGE 33.

>> PAGE 34 OF THE AGENDA PACKET.

>> SECTION TWO.

>> IT'S JUST THAT THE P&Z VOTED IT DOWN.

>> IT WOULD TAKE THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNSEL TO REVERSE THAT CORRECTLY.

>> BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THESE CONDITIONS WERE FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE OF THE VOTE, BUT BECAUSE IT FAILED, IT COMES TO US, AND THERE'S THE RECOMMENDATION P&Z IS NO.

YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, OTIS?

>> I AGREE WITH THAT I WILL SAY THAT THESE WERE CRAFTED BY STAFF BASED ON THE APPLICATION AND THE STAFF ANALYSIS, SO I CORRECT MYSELF ON THAT PART.

>> THIS ISN'T THE RECOMMENDATION OF A P&Z FOR THESE CONDITIONS.

IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF.

I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEARLY.

>> NO, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I JUST MEANT THAT PER THE CONVERSATION THAT I REMEMBER WATCHING.

I TRIED TO WATCH SOME OF IT, AND THEN THE NOTES. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT.

SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT THESE CONDITIONS, WHILE VOTED DOWN, WERE ACTUALLY ACCEPTED AND STRONGLY SUGGESTED BY P&Z. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> THE CONVERSATION WAS MORE TO THE THEY LIKE THE CONDITIONS, BUT THEY AT THE END ONLY VOTED.

>> CORRECT. JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL PRESENT, THAT'S ALL.

>> MY QUESTION AND THIS IS MORE PROBABLY FOR GRADY IS, WE'RE VOTING ON A REZONE OF PROPERTY.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN?

>> NO.

>> YOU FALL BACK?

>> YOU'RE PENALIZED. IT CAN GO UP TO $2,000.

>> THE REZONE STILL HAPPENS, IT'S JUST YOU GET FINED?

>> CORRECT. NOW, IF IT CONTINUED, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK UP.

>> BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE ZONING ONCE IT'S CHANGED.

>> YES, YOU CAN. YOU CAN REZONE IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.

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NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN SOME LEGAL WARM WATER.

IF HE'S CHANGED BASED ON THAT REZONING, AND YOU DOWN ZONE BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.

BUT YOU HAVE A PENALTY SECTION, YOU HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.

YOU STILL HAVE PERMIT. IF HE'S GOT TO PULL A PERMIT FOR ANY OF THIS STUFF, AND HE HADN'T MET IT, THEN YOU DON'T GIVE HIM A PERMIT.

>> IN A SITUATION SUCH AS THIS, AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU, IS THERE A STANDARD AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HE HAS TO BE WITHIN COMPLIANCE OR CAN WE STATE THAT?

>> YOU CAN STATE THAT.

>> WHAT? SAY SIX MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, HE NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEM?

>> SECTION 6 SAYS THAT THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE EFFECTIVE IN FULL FORCE UPON ADOPTION, AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A DATE, I GUESS WE COULD ADD TO THAT.

THAT WOULD STATE AN ADDENDUM TO COMPLETION OF CONDITIONS SET OUT IN SECTION 2.

>> SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN.

>> BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT HE HAS TO MEET CONDITION NUMBER 6, AS OF RIGHT NOW WHEN WE KNOW HE DOESN'T HAVE A FENCE UP.

>> AGREE. BUT WE CAN REQUIRE BEFORE HE PUTS THE UNITS IN.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> WE CAN DO THAT IN TERMS OF STAFF ENFORCING THIS ORDINANCE.

>> THEN THAT'S EASY ENOUGH.

>> THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

THAT ALL CONDITIONS PRECEDE THE ADDITION OF THE HOMES.

>> THEY HAVE TO GET CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE HOME.

>> MOTIVATE YOU TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN GET YOUR OCCUPANTS.

>> THAT'S HOW WE WOULD DO THE PARKLAND AS WELL.

>> I JUST HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOU GRADY ON THIS.

IF YOU CHANGED THE ZONING, AND LET'S SAY THEY GO PUT SIX MOBILE HOMES OUT THERE, AND ALL THESE CONDITIONS HAVE NOT BEEN MET WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ZONING BACK.

YOU'D [INAUDIBLE] FOR DOWN ZONING.

>> THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED ANYWAY, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL THEM GET YOUR MOBILE HOME AND TAKE IT NOW?

>> NO. YOU WOULD.

IT WOULD JUST BE A NASTY, EXPENSIVE FIGHT.

>> IT WOULD.

>> YOU DIDN'T MEET THE CONDITIONS. YES, I DID.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COURTS AND DETERMINE IF THEY MET ALL SEVEN CONDITIONS.

IF THEY HADN'T, THEN YOU HAVE MISREPRESENTED YOURSELF TO THE CITY AS TO WHY THEY ISSUED A CO?

>> WELL, THAT REZONING DOESN'T CARRY THE TEETH THAT THIS RIGHT HERE DOES, AND THAT IS $2,000 EACH OCCURRENCE ON ANY SUCH VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.

EACH DAY ON WHICH ANY SUCH VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE OCCURS WILL CONSTITUTE 5,000 PER DAY.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE REZONING CARRIES THE TEETH THAT THE FINE DOES.

>> THAT WILL GET YOUR ATTENTION.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LOT, I'M GOING TO SAY LOGICALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY HAVE A VARYING OPINION, BUT THOSE LOTS ARE ALREADY LOCATED IN A MOBILE HOME PARK.

>> ARE YOU AN AGENT OF THE BUSINESS BY ANY CHANCE?

>> MY BROTHER SENT ME HERE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WITH YOU GUYS.

I AM A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, OBVIOUSLY NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT MY BROTHER IS AND HE'S ALREADY HAD PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSIONS.

OBVIOUSLY, FOR HIM HE ALREADY OWNS THE PARK.

HE'S TRYING TO SLIGHTLY EXPAND IT.

HE'S A GOOD CITIZEN OF BRAZORIA COUNTY AND HE'S TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

HE'S NOT TRYING TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED AND THEN NOT FOLLOW WHAT HE SAID HE'S GOING TO DO.

IT'S JUST NOT GOOD BUSINESS SO HE WANTS EVERYTHING TO BE DONE CORRECTLY AND HE WANTS TO DO IT CORRECTLY.

HE IS GOING TO DO IT CORRECTLY.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE A FEAR OF THAT PART OF IT.

>> I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THE SEVEN CONDITIONS THAT ARE BEING SUGGESTED, IS HE AWARE OF THOSE AND IS HE IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE IS AWARE OF THOSE CONDITIONS AND HE HAS SPOKEN WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY.

I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK, CAN I GET A COPY? I PERSONALLY I'M NOT LOOKING OR HAVE NOT SEEN THE PAPER THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT.

I WAS GOING TO JUST RIGHT AWAY, TELL HIM, HEY, THESE ARE THE TOP THINGS BUT FROM WHEN HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOOD WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS AND HE JUST NEEDED, HE SAID, TO COME HERE AND TALK TO YOU GUYS AND HOPEFULLY GET IT APPROVED AFTER THAT.

>> I WOULD ARGUE HE'S HERE AS HIS AGENT.

>> AS A WHAT?

>> AS HIS AGENT, ON BEHALF OF.

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>> I JUST SAID IT.

>> CAN I THROW AN IDEA OUT HERE? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE BRIEFLY TABLE THIS AND TAKE UP SOME OTHER ISSUES, LET HIM STEP OUT TO CALL HIS BROTHER, CONFIRM THAT HE IS AWARE OF THESE SEVEN CONDITIONS AND THEN WE'LL REJOIN THIS MATTER, AND THEN HE CAN CONFIRM THAT HIS BROTHER IS AWARE OF THOSE CONDITIONS BEFORE ANY ACTION IS TAKEN?

>> I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> THEY ARE SIX CONDITIONS.

THREE IS VOID.

>> THREE IS?

>> WELL, PART OF THREE, THE APPLICANT SHOULD POST NO PARKING ALONG MAXIE AND A ONE WAY SIGN.

>> BUT IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE FIRE HYDRANT PERFORMANCE.

>> IT'S STILL SEVEN, IT'S JUST THREE IS REDUCED, I GUESS.

>> IF YOU COULD ASK HIM THE TIMELINE FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT ITEM NUMBER 5.

>> BECAUSE IF HE DOESN'T GIVE A DATE CERTAIN, THE COUNCIL WILL.

>> WHO WANTS TO MOVE FAST.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NO. WELL, WE WILL LEAVE THIS OPEN RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN GO MAKE A PHONE CALL TO HIM.

WHEN YOU'RE BACK IN HERE, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

>> TELL HIM WE APPRECIATE THIS SACRIFICE FOR THE PEOPLE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

>> I WILL, THANK YOU.

>> ITEM NUMBER 7. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION ON

[7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20250708-007 rezoning 0.43 acres from the Commercial General District to the Central Business Zoning District (CBD), for property located at 405 E. Mulberry St. in the City of Angleton.]

POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250708-007, REZONING 0.43 ACRES FROM THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 405 EAST MULBERRY STREET IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

>> ANY QUESTION? SIR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AS NOTED, THIS IS A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 405 EAST MULBERRY, AND MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THE HOME OWNERS, THE CHRISTENSEN'S HAVE DONE SOME VAST IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOME, WHICH HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO POSSIBLY BE USED FOR LOW INTENSE OFFICE, MEDICAL, LOW INTENSE RETAIL.

THE PROPERTY IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE REZONED TO CBD, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, DUE TO SOME CONSISTENCY OF THE GENERAL AREA, ISSUES IN WHICH THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL GENERAL ALLOWS FOR A WHOLE GAMUT OF USES WHICH YOU WOULD PROBABLY NOT FIND COMPATIBLE TO THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK AREA OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEY'RE HAVING A DILEMMA IN THAT CASE, BEING THAT IT'S BEING OVERTAXED FOR A LARGER COMMERCIAL TYPE USE OR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS BE REZONED BY THE COUNCIL.

WE PROVIDED YOU INFORMATION IN TERMS OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN THE AREA, WHICH HAVE THE SAME CHARACTER, SAME DYNAMICS, SOME OF WHICH ARE SPECIFIC USES.

FOR SERVICE ORIENTED USES, OFFICE USES, ATTORNEYS HAVE CONVERTED A LOT OF THE SPACES IN THE GENERAL VICINITY.

YOU MIGHT FIND DENTIST'S OFFICE, COSMETIC USES, AS YOU SEE ON PAGE 46 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY.

WE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE THE PLAN COMMISSION IN WHICH YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS FOR THIS ITEM.

PLAN COMMISSION IS FORWARDING THIS TO YOU WITH A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST IN TERMS OF HOW WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE CRITERIA FOR THE REZONING TO ASSURE THAT THERE IS NO INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE GENERAL AREA OR NEGATIVE IMPACTS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

THEY DID ESTABLISH FINDINGS OF FACT THAT THIS SHOULD BE APPROVED SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AFTERWARDS.

>> COUNCIL DO I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SMITH TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM STATE NAME.

ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

WE'RE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW OF OTIS, FROM MY MEMORY OF WHEN THESE ZONINGS WERE CREATED.

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THE CBD ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE THERE AND OPERATE A BUSINESS THERE.

>> THAT'S A REAL BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND THEN THE CBD.

ARE THEY PLANNING TO LIVE THERE?

>> THEY CURRENTLY DO.

THEY HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT'S IN THE REAR WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN UTILIZING, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

>> THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE REZONED TOGETHER?

>> RIGHT. NOW, COMMERCIAL GENERAL DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO LIVE ON COMMERCIAL GENERAL, SO IT BASICALLY WOULD BE A NON-CONFORMING USE.

THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE.

>> THEN NEXT DOOR IS ZONE COMMERCIAL GENERAL?

>> YOU COMMERCIAL GENERAL WOULD MOVE TOWARD THE EAST.

>> NOT ABOUT WHERE. ONE ADDRESS WEST.

>> THAT SHOULD BE CBD WITH THE SUP IS WHAT I RECALL.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> IT'S ON PAGE 53, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING CBD WITH THE SUP OVER IT.

I DON'T KNOW THE PARTICULAR ADDRESS, BUT IT'S MOST LIKELY ON THE CHART AS THE SUP DESCRIBED WHERE I DID THE ANALYSIS OF ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

>> BUT THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY ZONED HOUSES RIGHT THERE, CORRECT ON THE WEST SIDE, EAST SIDE?

>> IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, THERE'S A 6.3, AND THEN A 6.3, A LITTLE COUPLE OF PROPERTIES OVER TOWARD THE EAST, YOU'RE CORRECT, YES.

>> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL.

>> PROBABLY STILL WE'LL SEE THESE TRANSITION INTO OFFICE REQUESTS.

TYPICALLY, THEY'LL TRY TO CONVERT THEM WITH THE BUILDING CODE UPGRADE.

>> I WOULD THINK AS SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES START TO CHANGE HANDS, WE'LL START SEEING MORE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION ALONG EAST MULBERRY.

>> COUNCIL?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN TO APPROVE THE REZONE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, OTIS.

>> ON TO REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 8,

[8. Discussion and possible action on the Windrose Green Section 6 Final Plat, located off Atlas Point Lane/Starlight Street, just south of Section 5. ]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE WINDROSE GREEN SECTION 6 FINAL PLAT LOCATED OFF ATLAS POINT LANE, STARLIGHT STREET JUST SOUTH OF SECTION 5.

>> THANK YOU. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS FOR SECTION 6 OF WINDROSE GREEN, WHICH IS A FINAL PLAT.

SECTION 6 IS SHOWN ON YOUR VICINITY MAP ON PAGE 64 OF THE AGENDA PACKET, IN WHICH THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE 78 LOCKS, ONE RESERVE, AND THREE BLOCKS TO BE IMPLEMENTED ON THESE 15.6 ACRES FOR THIS REQUEST FOR ITEM NUMBER 8, AS YOU SEE THERE.

THE CITY ENGINEER DID REVIEW THE PLAT AS PROPOSED, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT WERE CORRECTED BY THE APPLICANT AND CLEARED PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACT ON ACTING ON THE MATTER IN WHICH THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THIS FOR APPROVAL TO YOU WITH THE 7,0 VOTE FROM THE JUNE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER IT WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE APPLICANT BEING HERE AS WELL.

>> COUNCIL?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN TO APPROVE SECTION 6.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. YOU'RE BACK?

>> LET'S REJOIN NUMBER 6 BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO 9.

CAN YOU PLEASE LET US KNOW ANY COMMENTS?

>> YES. I SPOKE TO MY BROTHER.

HE WAS FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE SEVEN ITEMS HERE, AND HE SAID THAT HE'S FULLY AWARE OF THEM AND HE'S FULLY WANTING TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THEM.

ON THE TIMELINE, HE SAID HE COULDN'T GIVE A SPECIFIC TIMELINE BECAUSE THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH ENGINEERING AND GET EVERYTHING DRAWN OUT AND PLATTED OUT AND ALL THAT TO GET STARTED, BUT HE DID ASSURE ME THAT THE PHASE 1, THE VERY FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO FIX THE ROAD.

THE ROAD PORTION WOULD BE THE FIRST THING BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING

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STARTED ON ANY OF THE ACTUAL PARKING SPOTS.

>> WE ASSUME THE ROAD WILL INCLUDE THE HYDRANTS BEFORE?

>> YES, SIR. I ASKED HIM, HEY, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A BIG ITEM FOR HAVING INSTALL FIRE HYDRANTS.

HE'S LIKE, I'M AWARE OF THAT. NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

>> I THINK IF NOTHING ELSE, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE CURRENTLY IN THAT AREA, THERE IS NO FIRE HYDRANT.

WE HAVE NO FIRE SUPPRESSION OVER THERE.

CHIEF, WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OF THOSE MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE GOES UP RIGHT NOW?

>> WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO SEE IT WHEN IT HAPPENS BUT MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD EITHER BRING WATER IN OR WE WOULD TAP ONE OF THOSE HYDRANTS THAT ARE ON ANDERSON.

WE CARRY 1,000 FOOT OF HOSE FOR THAT PURPOSE.

>> THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT TO THAT AREA.

>> WE'D HAVE TO KNOW THE SIZE OF THE HYDRANT THAT IT'S CAPABLE OF SUPPLYING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A PRIVATE HYDRANT, I'M ASSUMING, AT THIS POINT SO WE SHY AWAY FROM THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDERSIZED MOST OFTEN.

>> WHAT SIZE DO YOU PREFER?

>> WELL, IT'S THE UNDERGROUND PIPING.

IF IT'S A SIX INCH THAT COMES OVER TO IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO SO MANY GPM FLOW ON THAT.

BUT A SIX INCH HYDRANT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPLY WATER FOR A SINGLE STRUCTURE. IT WILL BE A BENEFIT.

>> WHAT DO WE GOT?

>> I MIGHT HAVE IT BACKWARDS, BUT A SIX INCH LINE COMING OFF DIRE AND A TWO INCH COMING OFF ANDERSON.

I MIGHT HAVE THAT BACKWARDS, BUT SIX COMING IN, TWO INCH ON THE OTHER SIDE SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A GOOD FLOW CAPACITY OUT OF THAT HYDRANT, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NO HYDRANT.

THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE IF YOU WANTED FULL.

TO COMPLETELY LOOP THAT IN, THEY'D HAVE TO REPLACE THAT ENTIRE TWO INCH SECTION AND TIE IT INTO OUR MAIN ON ANDERSON OR DIRE, LIKE I SAID, WHICHEVER ONE I MAY HAVE BACKWARDS.

PREFERABLY AN EIGHT INCH TO ACTUALLY GET THE CORRECT FLOW.

>> NOW, BACK TO YOU OTIS, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

>> AS NOTED, IT IS A PRIVATE HYDRANT.

THEY HAVE ONE OTHER PRIVATE HYDRANT THAT IS CLOSE TO THIS AREA.

I GAVE YOU THE RADIUS MAP THAT SHOWS YOU THE GAP SO IT'S ONLY ONE HYDRANT, I THINK THAT'S BEING ADDED.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S BETTER THAN NOT HAVING ONE TO SATISFY THE CODE IN TERMS OF RADIUS ALLOWANCE OR THE REQUIREMENT.

WE WERE MORE CONCERNED, I THINK WITH THE GAP AND IT'S A SMALL GAP AS YOU SEE ON THE RADIUS MAP.

>> I WANT TO BE HELPFUL IN THE SITUATION, BUT I ALSO WOULD CAUTION YOU THAT IF ANY DEVELOPER CAME TO US IN THE CITY AND WANTED TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY, WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO FOLLOW OUR CITY GUIDELINES.

WE WOULDN'T MAKE EXCEPTIONS ON THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY.

I CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION, COUNCIL.

>> I 100% AGREE WITH YOU. I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT.

>> I WOULD THINK THAT HE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO AT LEAST GET IT UP TO THE SIX INCH THAT MEETS ON THE DWYER SIDE.

>> OR THE ANDERSON SIDE, WHICHEVER HAS THE SIX INCH?

>> CORRECT.

>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DROWN YOU IN DEBT, BUT IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

>> WORST CASE SCENARIO, WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL, LIKE HOW MANY FEET OF SIX INCH LINE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> I'M NOT 100% SURE OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT ANSWER.

I'LL JUST SEND YOU AN EMAIL WHAT THE FOOTAGE IS OF WHERE TO GET IT TO AND HOW MUCH THAT WOULD TAKE, AND WHAT SIZE AND MATERIALS.

I CAN GIVE YOU A LIST OF ALL THAT.

>> I GUESS ON THIS YOU'RE SUGGESTING OR TAKING CITY PROPERTY AND UPGRADING THE CITY LINES OR THIS IS IT ALL STILL UNDER JUST A PRIVATE AREA?

>> IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON WATER, WHERE THAT ONE PRIVATE METER IS, AND THEN YOU WILL EITHER HAVE TO RUN IT TO THE ANDERSON RIGHT AWAY OR THAT RIGHT AWAY.

>> THAT'S ALL ON PRIVATE LAND, RIGHT?

>> BUT WE HAVE RIGHT.

>> THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL SECTION IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

I'M NOT SURE UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DIVE IN AND LOOK AT IT.

>> YOUR PRIVATE DRIVE-IN, THAT'S ALL YOUR PROPERTY.

>> THE STANDARD IS THE STANDARD.

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>> THE PRIVATE HYDRANT THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY, IT'S LOCATED CLOSE TO WHICH OF THE ROADS?

>> WHERE YOU SEE MAXIE GOING IN THE LEFT RIGHT DIRECTION?

>> TO THE LEFT WHERE IT HITS DWYER, THERE'S A HOUSE JUST ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION.

THERE'S A PRIVATE HYDRANT THERE.

>> IT WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD FURTHER DOWN.

RIGHT IN THERE.

>> IT'S IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS, I THINK.

>> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ANDERSON, THERE'S A HYDRANT IN FRONT OF THE HOMES.

>> IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME ON THE ON THE ANDERSON SIDE THAT'S A PROPERLY SIZED LINE THAT WOULD BE TEED INTO AND RUN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THERE.

X AMOUNT OF FEET OF SIX-INCH PIPE AND A HYDRANT.

>> I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> NO, I THINK YOU CAN JUST TRY FIND THE PAGE 34 AGAIN.

>> I THINK NUMBER 3 WOULD COVER US THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.

>> I'M GOOD WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST THAT THAT FIRE HYDRANT IS THE ONE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE IN THIS CASE.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO IMPOSE A DEFINITIVE DEADLINE?

>> WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON HIM GETTING A CO.

>> TRUE.

>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS TERM WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF IT. BUT YES, I AGREE, CERTIFICATE OF OPERATION.

>> HE'S INCENTIVIZED TO GET IT DONE QUICKER.

>> YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REZONING OF THE SIX LOTS BASED ON THESE GUIDELINES BEING MET ONE THROUGH SEVEN WITH THE EXEMPTION OF THE PARKING AND ONE-WAY SIGNAGE, AND THE FIRE HYDRANT THAT WILL NEED TO BE INSTALLED WILL NEED TO MEET THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE CITY AND HECTOR WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE APPLICANT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH FOR APPROVAL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, GRADY, YOU THINK THAT'S CLEAR ABOUT A GUIDELINE AS FAR AS TIMELINE?

>> IF IT'S IN THE MINUTES, YES.

STAFF WILL NOT WANT TO GO AGAINST THAT.

HE COMES IN AND PULLS THE CO TO PUT THE TRAILER IN.

HAVE YOU DONE ALL SEVEN, YES OR NO? VERIFIED IF IT'S NO, IF ANY OF THEM OR NO, THEN NO CO.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE LEASE PART? THE LEASE PAPERS, DO WE NEED TO ADD THAT INTO THE MOTION SINCE IT'S NOT UNDER THE CONDITIONS?

>> YOU CAN MAKE THAT CONDITION 8, THAT IT WOULD BE FILED ON RECORD WITH THE CITY. THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.

>> COUNCILMAN SARTIN, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION?

>> I'LL AMEND IT TO SAY THAT THAT HE NEEDS TO FILE A COPY OF HIS LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

>> YOU'LL AMEND YOUR SECOND?

>> I'LL AMEND THE SECOND.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? I HOPE HE KNOWS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH HIM ON THIS.

>> IN ANY OTHER SITUATION, IF IT WAS A NEW MOBILE HOME PARK, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A NO-GO.

THE FACT THAT THEY'RE IN EXISTENCE AND HE HAS COME TO US WITH A WILLINGNESS TO CLEAN UP THE AREA AND MAKE IT NICER, IT'S GOING TO BE A MOBILE HOME PARK FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, BUT THE FACT THAT HE'S GOING TO CLEAN IT UP IS WHAT HAS GAINED THE TRACTION WITH US TO MOVE FORWARD IN ASSISTING HIM WITH THE REZONING OR APPROVING, I SHOULD SAY, REZONING THE SIX LOTS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT GIVES HIM WHAT WOULD BE THE REVENUE THAT HE NEEDS TO DO THAT.

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BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING AREA WITH MOBILE HOMES, YOU'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING.

>> WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SIX SPACES?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE ALREADY TAKE A VOTE.

>> OKAY, COUNCIL.

>> WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.

>> I KNOW, I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO TAKE A VOTE.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. HE MIGHT SEND YOU EVERY TIME NOW.

ITEM NUMBER 9,

[9. Discussion and possible action on the Preliminary Plat of Ashland Section 7, located northeast of the intersection of the future Ashland Blvd./County Road 32 and the future Sapphire Springs Trail.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ASHLAND SECTION 7 LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF THE FUTURE ASHLAND BOULEVARD COUNTY ROAD 32 AND THE FUTURE SAPPHIRE SPRINGS TRAIL.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

YOU HAVE THE VICINITY MAP OF SECTION 7 OF ASHLAND.

SECTION 8, JUST BELOW THIS, WAS APPROVED LAST CYCLE.

THE APPLICANT OR DEVELOPER IS WORKING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SPA.

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2023 FOR ASHLAND SECTION 7, WHICH IS 117 LOTS ON 26.1 ACRES WITH THE FIVE RESERVES AND SIX BLOCKS.

THESE LOTS ARE AVERAGING 55 BY 120 FEET IN AREA.

THE APPLICANT DID FOR THIS APPLICATION TO STAFF, AND WE WENT THROUGH THE CITY ENGINEER'S REVIEW IN WHICH ALL OF THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED AND CLEARED.

AS NOTED IN THE REPORT, PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE 7-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO YOU FOR FINAL ACTION. THANK YOU.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN FOR APPROVAL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

I DO HOPE THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS WERE TAKEN CARE OF.

>> NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON

[10. Discussion and possible action on the Windrose Green Section 7 Final Plat, located off Parks Edge Lane and Milo Midnight Lane. ]

THE WINDROSE GREEN SECTION 7 FINAL PLAT LOCATED OFF PARKS EDGE LANE AND MILO MIDNIGHT LANE.

WHERE DID THEY COME UP THESE NAMES?

>> YES, SIR. [LAUGHTER]

>> SAME MATCHES DOG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT OF SECTION 7, JUST THE EAST TO THE LAST ITEM, IN WHICH THE APPLICANTS IS PROPOSING THE FINAL PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN FOR THE 62 LOTS, WHICH ARE ON 13.41 ACRES, FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

THE ITEMS DID GET CLEARED, WHICH WERE DERIVED BY THE ENGINEERING REVIEW, WHAT YOU SEE, AND THEY WERE CLEARED PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE 7-0 TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT BEFORE YOU, AND WE ARE CLEARING THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN DOCUMENTS, WHICH SHOULD BE COMPLETED REAL SOON FOR THIS PARTICULAR SECTION AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> HAS ANY OF OUR STAFF BEEN OUT THERE?

>> THEY'RE OUT THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE DO PERMITTING OUT THERE.

>> HAS THERE BEEN PERMITTING OR JUST INSPECTIONS?

>> FOR THE PREVIOUS SECTION, YES, WE DO INSPECTION.

>> JUST INSPECTIONS OUT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? ARE THERE ANY PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN.

>> WE ISSUE PERMITS, YES, ON ALL THE SECTIONS, BUT FOR WINDROSE.

THERE ARE SOME INSPECTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY DONE IN WHICH HDR DOES COME DOWN AND DO SOME OF THOSE FINAL INSPECTIONS WITH STAFF ON SOME OF THE SECTIONS, AND THEN THERE'S SOME PRE CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS THAT OCCUR ON A REGULAR BASIS AS WELL, IN WHICH WE'RE ALLOWED TO EITHER GO TO OR ATTEND VIRTUALLY.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE SUBDIVISION.

WE JUST DON'T DO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS HAVE [OVERLAPPING].

>> ALL BEEN CLEARED. YES, SIR.

>> YES. COUNCIL?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WINDROSE GREEN SECTION 7 FINAL PLAT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH FOR APPROVAL.

[01:00:01]

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 11,

[11. Discussion and possible action on a request for a Sidewalk Waiver submitted by David and Kitty Bennett, on property located at 1 Pecan Place, for a new residential infill residence. ]

DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SILO LABOR SUBMITTED BY DAVID AND KENNY BENNETT ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 PECAN PLACE FOR A NEW RESIDENTIAL INFILL RESIDENCE.

JUST BEFORE WE BEGIN, THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS, SO I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM VOTING ON THIS MATTER OR CULMINATE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS JUST A REQUEST BEFORE YOU, AS CUSTOMARY IN SECTION 23.14, FOR SIDEWALKS AND ACCESSIBILITY.

WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE INSTALLED FOR THESE NEW APPLICATIONS.

WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, WE TRY TO MAINTAIN CONNECTIVITY WHERE POSSIBLE.

THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED, OF COURSE, THREE SIDES BY RIGHT OF WAYS.

THIS IS JUST ONE THAT'S A SMALL CUL-DE-SAC IN WHICH SIDEWALKS CURRENTLY DO NOT EXIST.

THIS HAS BEEN A VACANT LOT, AS YOU KNOW, HAS PRE EXISTED FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN WHICH THE APPLICANT IS BUILDING A NEW HOME THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER PERMITTING.

HE IS REQUESTING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER HIS REQUEST FOR WAIVER OF THE SIDEWALK, AND WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THE COVER FOR THIS ITEM.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THAT.

THE SITE PLAN FOR THE NEW HOME IS ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES.

I THINK YOU CAN GET TO IT FOR THE BENNETT RESIDENCE, WHICH WILL SHOW THE ORIENTATION OF THE HOME, WHICH WILL HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY OFF OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, AND THEN ONE OFF OF NORTH VALDERAS.

THANK YOU. THEN THERE'S AN ELEVATION OF THE HOME ON THE NEXT SHEET.

>> I GUESS I'LL TAKE UP THE MANTLE.

NORMALLY, THIS IS WHERE MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND WILL BE VERY STAUNCHLY SAYING YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO HAVE A SIDEWALK.

BUT THE SIDEWALK STILL EXISTS ON NORTH RIDGE.

>> THE SIDEWALK STILL EXIST ON VALDERAS.

THE ONLY VARIANCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IN FRONT OF THE COMPLEX?

>> YES, AND THE CUL-DE-SAC.

>> TRAVIS, JUST FOR COMMENT.

IS YOUR SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY AROUND TO YOUR SIDE?

>> NO, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.

>> NO SIDEWALK ANYWHERE IN THAT CUL-DE-SAC.

>> DO ANY OF THOSE CUL-DE-SACS?

>> NO.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. NONE OF THEM DO.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE BASED ON UNIFORMITY OF THE EXISTING CUL-DE-SACS AND A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE EXCEPT FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.

BECAUSE NOBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST IT, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S IN FAVOR.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I AM FOR CONNECTIVITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, PUBLIC USE AREAS.

BUT AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, NONE THE CUL-DE-SACS, AND IT WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE TO HAVE A SHORT SECTION OF THE SIDEWALK ON THIS BRAND NEW HOME.

>> I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ANY ABSTENTION?

>> WE'VE GOT ONE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 12, UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON

[12. Update and discussion on Design Development Plans for Abigail Arias Park.]

DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WANTED TO BRING AN UPDATE TO YOU REGARDING ABIGAIL ARIAS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE DESIGN THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING IN PLACE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

YOU'LL SEE BEFORE YOU IN YOUR PACKET A NUMBER OF PIECES.

THE FIRST THREE PAGES THAT YOU WILL SEE ARE THE OVERALL DESIGN FOR THE PARK.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, SOME OF THE THINGS ARE NOT TO SCALE OR EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

BUT IF WE START ON PAGE 97, THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE FEEL OF THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR PHASE 1.

YOU'LL HAVE YOUR GREEN SPACE.

>> PULL IT BACK ONE SLIDE, PLEASE.

>> NINETY SEVEN HERE. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST VIEW YOU HAVE COMING FROM THE PARKING LOT.

[01:05:03]

AGAIN, PHASE 1, AS YOU RECALL FROM OUR MASTER PLAN.

THIS ONE INCORPORATES PUTTING SOME TRAILS IN THERE, HAVING OUR GREEN SPACE, PLAYGROUND, SWINGS, AND SPLASH PAD.

AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS.

THESE RENDERINGS WERE UPDATED BASED ON SOME OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, AS YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT, BUT THIS IS THE MAIN COMPONENTS.

AS YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, IT'LL GIVE YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE ENTRANCE COMING INTO THE FACILITY, SO OFF OF CEMETERY, AND THEN THAT PAGE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THERE GIVES YOU A BETTER VIEW OF THE PAVILION THAT'S PROPOSED, THE PLAYGROUND AND THE SPLASH PAD IN THE BACKGROUND THERE.

VORTEX ON THE NEXT PAGE.

OUR NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES AS WE GO THROUGH IS OUR CURRENT DESIGN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE SPLASH PAD OR SPRAY PARK.

WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADD INTO HERE.

COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FOR THIS WAS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD MULTIPLE DIFFERENT USER FEATURES.

WE HAVE THE SPRAY COMPONENT THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE GROUND.

WE HAVE THE DUMPING BUCKETS, WAS ONE OF THE POPULAR ONES.

WE HAVE OTHER MOVABLE COMPONENTS.

YOU SEE THE FLOWER MIXTURE THERE. AS YOU SCROLL THROUGH IT.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE FROM THIS VIEW OFF TO YOUR LEFT, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THOSE ARCHWAYS.

THOSE ARE SPRAY ARCHES, AS THEY RUN THROUGH IT, THEY'LL HAVE THAT SPRAY PARK FEEL TO IT, AND THAT COMPONENTS ADDED THERE.

ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT IS ACTUALLY MEANT TO BE LIKE A NATURAL RIVER BED, IF YOU WILL.

A PLAY FEATURE LEVEL GROUND FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY INTO, SO THE WATER WILL FLOW DOWN LIKE IT'S A STREAM, AND SO THAT'S THAT ROCK COMPONENT THAT'S ADDED INTO THE FEATURE THERE.

AS YOU KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH, YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME PILATED ONES THERE.

NEXT PAGE, WE'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ZOOMED IN FOR THAT SPRAY FEATURE.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THESE FEATURES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ARE MOVABLE, SO THEY CAN SWING BACK AND FORTH SO THEY CAN MOVE THE WATER, DOES HAVE THAT MOBILITY COMPONENT THAT IS ATTACHED TO IT AS WELL.

NEXT PAGE. GIVES YOU A DIFFERENT ANGLE, DIFFERENT VIEW FROM IT, SHOWS THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AS THEY WORK THROUGHOUT, ADDING A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE DUMPING BUCKETS OR RUNNING THROUGH, SO YOU HAVE A VARIATION FOR ALL AGES TO BE COMPANY IN THERE.

I WILL POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE HERE.

IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU CAN SEE THE SHADE COVERING.

THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY AS FAR AS THAT GAZEBO SHADE COVERING FEEL.

ON THE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES YOU SAW IN THE RENDERINGS, THEY HAD MORE OF A STEEL STRUCTURE, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD MADE FOR UPDATES.

I DON'T THINK THOSE WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THE FIRST PHASE, BUT IDEALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE STAY WITH OUR PARK STANDARD TO GIVE SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, AND THEN PARKS ARE EVALUATING SOME OTHER AVENUES TO DO A COST SAVING COMPONENT THAT GOES WITH THAT.

AS YOU KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT ADVANTAGE POINTS OF THE PLAY FEATURES, MAKING SURE THAT'S INCLUSIVE, THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND HAS A PATHWAY TO GET TO THIS SPACE.

AS WE GET TO THE LAST ONE, KEEP GOING ONE MORE FOR ME.

IN THE MIDDLE, I WILL POINT OUT IT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD, AS YOU RECALL, FROM THE FIRST DESIGNS, WE WERE TRYING TO HAVE ELEMENTS THAT HAD LIKE A BRIDGE THAT WENT OVER THE TOP.

THAT ONE JUST ISN'T CURRENTLY MAKING IT IN BASED ON COSTS.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP ELEMENTS.

THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME INTO PLAY.

THAT'LL PROBABLY TURN INTO MORE FLAT SURFACE VERSUS THAT'S THE BROWN PLANKS YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE.

THEY WERE TRYING TO ADD A COUPLE MORE ELEMENTS, BUT THAT BRIDGE FIELD DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE COST COMPONENT OF IT.

WE'LL KEEP GOING THROUGH TO THE PLAYGROUNDS AS WE GET DOWN TO THE NEXT PAGE.

TWO DIFFERENT VENDORS HAVE PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER.

THIS ONE IS FROM LONESTAR.

THIS WOULD SERVE THE CAPACITY OF BOTH AGE GROUPS, UNDER FIVE AND THE 5-12 COMPONENTS, HAVING THE SWINGS, HAVING A FEW DIFFERENT PLAY COMPONENTS THROUGHOUT.

THIS IS THEIR CURRENT VERSION THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED.

YOU WILL SEE OFF IN THE DISTANCE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BERMING PIECE THAT WE HAD ON OUR ORIGINAL PLANS, WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE FIRST PHASE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL NECESSARILY MAKE IT, BUT THAT'S THOSE TWO SLIDES THAT ARE OFF ON THE EDGE TO ADD THAT TOPOGRAPHY PIECE TO IT.

BUT THEY DID INCLUDE THAT IN THE RENDERING TO GIVE THAT FEEL OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT.

SO YOU HAVE A VARIATION WITH THAT ONE AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY PASS OUT.

ADDITIONAL ONE THAT WE'RE WAITING ON THAT CAME IN LAST WEEK FROM CUNNINGHAM RECREATION, AND SO THIS ONE IS A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL.

[01:10:03]

SAME THING, STILL HITS THE MULTIPLE AGE GROUPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TARGETS THAT WAS PART OF THE TOP 5 REQUEST WHEN WE DID OUR SURVEY AND GOT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

IT STILL INCORPORATES ALL THOSE COMPONENTS.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT FIELD THAT GOES WITH IT.

YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ELEVATION THAT COMES FROM THIS ONE VERSUS THE ONE THAT'S WITH LONESTAR RECREATION, AND SO THIS ONE HAS A LITTLE HIGHER ELEMENTS VERSUS THE OTHER ONE IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.

STILL BOTH QUALITY PRODUCTS, BUT TWO DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

>> THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE THE BERMING.

>> THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE THE BERMING IN THE CURRENT WAY.

ALTHOUGH LONESTAR PUT THERE IS IN THERE, IT MAY NOT MAKE IT AS FAR AS COST WISE.

THEY PUT IT IN THERE TO ADD IF IT WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT, THIS ONE, THEY DID NOT PUT A PROPOSAL IN THERE THAT SHOWED THE BURNING INTO IT.

>> AND WHAT MAKES THE BERMING COST PROHIBITIVE?

>> IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL DIRTS, THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT IN DEPENDING ON THE SIZE THAT YOU'RE TO DO.

IF THAT'S A COST WE WANT TO BRING IN TO ADD A SMALL ELEMENT TO IT, WE CAN, BUT IT IS A COST THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH BRINGING IN THE EXTRA TO RAISE THAT UP AND TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GET TO A SIG.

>> ARE YOU ALL RECYCLING THE WATERS.

WOULD YOU RECYCLE IT?

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR THAT.

PART OF THE GRANTS IS WE'RE LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY.

THREE OPTIONS WE HAVE IS RECYCLING THE WATER, SO FILTRATION, SO LIKE A POOL WOULD BE, RECLAIMING IT FOR ADDITIONAL USE TO POTENTIALLY GO BACK INTO IRRIGATION OR JUST PASS THROUGH THAT IT'S FRESHWATER ALWAYS.

WE JUST HAVEN'T COMPLETELY CUT THAT AND A LOT OF IT WILL COME DOWN TO THE COST.

>> ANOTHER CITY WE REPRESENT, PUT IN A SPLASH PAD, AND THEN ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO LATER WITH THE COST OF THE WATER, THEY DECIDED RECYCLING.

SOME WAY WAS WORTH IT, AND YOUR AGENDA PACKET TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR HAS FOR WATER. THAT COULD GET EXPENSIVE.

>> GOOD POINT, GRADY.

>> NOT LEGAL ADVICE, BUT S.

>> WE APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE.

>> THEN THE LAST COUPLE OF ONES WILL GO BACK TO PACK FORM, PLEASE.

AS WE'LL GO TO THE PAVILIONS, AND I'LL JUST SHOW YOU THE THREE PAVILIONS THAT PROPOSED.

THEY PROVIDED THREE DIFFERENT RENDERINGS.

I WILL PROVIDE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT WE'VE GIVEN ALREADY ON IT, A COST SAVING, BUT B CONSISTENCY.

YOU HAVE THE FIRST ONE BEFORE YOU.

THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY GO DOWN A MORE BECAUSE THAT'LL SHOW THE SIDE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD NATURAL ELEMENTS THAT GIVE A DIFFERENT FEEL TO THIS ONE.

THIS ONE WAS KIND OF ADDING A DIFFERENT COMPONENT AND POTENTIALLY ADDING A WATER FEATURE TO IT.

THERE WOULD BE WATER DRAIN OFF TO BE ABLE TO ADD A DIFFERENT ELEMENT OF A WATERFALL.

WAS THE FIELD THAT WENT HERE.

I WILL POINT OUT, YOU'LL SEE A FEW OF THEM, IS GOING TO SEE THE BRICK THAT GOES AROUND.

WE'VE ASKED THEM TO REMOVE THAT.

A, ONE OF THOSE WAS, WE KNOW WE WANT TO ADD A SKATE PARK ELEMENT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO ADD AN ELEMENT THAT BECOMES A SKATE PARK THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE.

IT WAS ONE OF THOSE AND B, IT IS A COST THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADD ANYTHING EXTRA TO IT FOR US.

WE'RE TRYING TO GO MORE OF AN OPEN CONCEPT LIKE LAKESIDE WOULD BE.

THAT WAS THE FIRST RENDERING THEY PROVIDED US, SECOND ONE, MORE OF A STRAIGHT ON FEEL, PRETTY BASIC.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, IS THE SCREENING UP TOP COULD THEN EVOLVE INTO DOING A MEMORIAL TO ABIGAIL AND PUTTING SOME SUBTLETIES IN THERE IN THE SCREENING AND MAKING THAT A CUSTOM DESIGN.

THERE'S THE LOOK AND FEEL THAT GOES WITH THAT, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS MORE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE AT LAKESIDE DOWN. THE COUNTS UP THERE.

THE DESIGN ASPECT HERE THAT I WILL SAY ONCE WE TALKED TO THE DESIGNERS ABOUT IT AND I CAN'T SEE ANY LONGER IS IT'S DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE FLIGHTS OR LIKE WINGS.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE SCREENING ON THE SIDE, AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT TAKING FLIGHT THAT WE'RE TYING IN THE MEMORY OF ABIGAIL AND WHAT'S THERE.

YOU HAVE THAT AND AS WELL AS THE TRUSTS ARE DESIGNED TO LOOK MORE LIKE AN A TO MEMORIALIZE ABIGAIL AS WELL, AND SO THAT COMPONENT IS AD IN THERE.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT WAS ADDED TO THE RENDERINGS ON THE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES AS THEY UPDATED IT TO INCORPORATE THIS ONE, AND THEN ANOTHER REQUEST WE'VE HAD IS TO CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE ACCESS TO THE BATHROOMS. NOT HAVING THE DOORS UNDER THE PAVILION.

MAIN REASON BEING THERE IS IF WE USE AS A RENTABLE SPACE, THEN YOU HAVE EVERYBODY WHO IS UTILIZING THE SPLASH PAD IS NOW PART OF YOUR RENTAL.

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WE WOULD JUST MAKE THOSE ON THE SIDE.

>> WHAT DIRECTION DOES THIS FACE?

>> IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 97, IT'S GOING TO FACE EAST.

IT'LL FACE THE SPLASH PAD, LIKE THAT.

WE OPEN TO THE SPLASH PAD, DESIGN, SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO RENT AND HAVE ACCESS TO SEE THE PLAYGROUNDS AND SEE THE SPLASH PAD.

FROM THIS PICTURE HERE, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THE BACK SIDE OF IT, AND THAT FACE THIS WOULD BE FACING MORE TOWARDS ANDERSON. TEN OF IT IN THE ANGLE.

>> GOOD.

>> THIS DESIGN HERE LOOKS TO BE A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE PROBABLY.

>> I LIKE THE DESIGN?

>> EXCEPT FOR THE IDEAS OF SWITCHING THE DOORS.

BUT THAT SHOULD BE AN EASY.

>> THAT'S DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THE COSTS FOR US.

>> ARE THE BEAMS INSIDE, THE DECORATIVE ONES, ARE THEY WOOD OR ARE THEY?

>> THEY WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE AT LAKESIDE.

SO WE'RE USING LAKESIDE AS THE STAPLE OF THAT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE SIMILAR DESIGN.

>> IS THE MAINTENANCE AT LAKESIDE BEEN WHAT YOU ANTICIPATED OR IS THERE ANYTHING?

>> AS FAR AS THE PAVILION, WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT NEEDS MAJOR MAINTENANCE OTHER THAN VANDALISM HERE OR THERE. THE BATHROOMS, BUT.

>> NOTHING WAS CAUSE MY BRAIN WHEN I SAW THAT AND SAW THE GRATING ON IT, MY BRAIN IMMEDIATELY WENT. M DER WORLD.

>> NO. KNOCK GUN WOOD.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR ISSUES THAT THE STAFF HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS.

BUT AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE ON THE BEDROOM ITSELF.

NO. WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ANYTHING OF THAT YET.

IT STOP TL FOR COMMENTS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BERM STAY.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A NEAT FEATURE WITHIN THE PARK WHERE THE ELEVATION CHANGES.

I WOULD SAY THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF GRASS IN FRONT OF SOME OF THOSE SPOTS, AND I TELL YOU MY KIDS WOULD BE REAL QUICK TO FIND THAT CONCRETE OUT IN FRONT OF PROBABLY THAT.

THERE WAS ONE THING I DID WANT TO WANT TO ASK.

WHAT DID YOU CALL THE GROWN UP AREAS?

>> OH, THE GAZEBOS?

>> WELL, THE AREAS THAT WERE PASTURE LIKE.

>> OH, LIKE THE GREEN SPACE OR THE ONE?

>> YEAH, THE GREEN SPACE.

>> DONE MY GRASS AREAS.

WILD SCAPE, THERE YOU GO.

GENERALLY, WHEN I SEE THOSE, THEY'VE GOT SOME SORT OF A BORDER WITH, LIKE, SOME GRAVEL OR SOMETHING AND ROCKS RUNNING AROUND THEM TO SEPARATE IT.

WAS THERE ANY PLAN TO HAVE A BORDER ON THAT OR ANYTHING, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO GROW RIGHT UP TO THE CONCRETE?

>> IT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE PLANS.

>> OR WERE YOU GUYS JUST GOING TO MOW A STRIP AROUND IT?

>> WE PROBABLY WOULD INCORPORATE THAT FROM LESSONS WE LEARNED FROM LAKESIDE.

THE CURRENT WILDFLOWER AREA.

WHEN IT'S KNOTS IN BLOOM AND THAT'S STARTING TO DIE DOWN, THOSE LARGE FLOWERS JUST DRAPE OVER TO THE SIDEWALK.

WE WOULD PROBABLY, MOST LIKELY, CREATE A BARRIER, AND IT ALSO PROVIDES A COMFORT FOR INDIVIDUALS KNOWING THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE TALL GRASS, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING IS IS THE WILD SCAPE THAT MUCH IS SOMETHING OR DO WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT MUCH AT THIS PARK OR IS IT MORE OF ONE SECTION IS LIKE THAT, AND THE REST OF IT IS MORE OF MAN CURED LANDSCAPING.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM IN BETWEEN THAT.

>> I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE AS LONG AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAKING A COUPLE OF PASSES WITH MOWER UP THERE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT NICELY EDGED AND IT DOESN'T.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE JUST LETTING IT GROW WILD AND IT PROBABLY CUTS DOWN ON MAINTENANCE FROM TIME TO TIME.

>> ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH STAFF ON AND KEEP THEM IN MIND OF.

LAKESIDE WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WE DID THE WILD SCAPES AFTER, AND SO THAT IS WHAT'S THERE IS WHAT'S GROWING.

WHEREAS THIS WOULD BE INTENTIONAL THAT WE WOULD GO IN AND STRIP DOWN AND THEN INCORPORATES THAT WILD FLOWER, THE WILD NATURE TO IT.

IT'D BE MORE INTENTIONAL OF WHAT WE WANT VERSUS WHAT WE JUST WHAT'S THERE.

>> WHAT'S GROWING?

>> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I GET MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT LAKESIDE AND THE WILD, THE WAY IT'S KEPT FROM RESIDENTS ALL THE TIME.

THEY THINK THAT WE JUST DON'T GO MOW IT, AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT IT'S A FEATURE.

>> THEY DON'T WANT SIGNAGE?

>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A KIDS THIS IS DESIGNED TO BE A KIDS PARK.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WILD SCAPES AS MUCH.

MAYBE ON THE BORDERS, BUT ON THE INTERIOR, THEY WANT A CLEAN AREA THAT THEY CAN PLAY AND RUN AND DO THINGS.

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LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT THE OVERALL GOAL OF THIS PARK IS AND NOT TRY TO INCORPORATE EVERY FEATURE FROM EVERY PARK THAT WE'VE EVER SEEN INTO ONE.

I WOULD CAUTION NOT TO KEEP THAT WILD SCAPE IN THAT AREA.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT TO THE BORDERS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ACCEPTABLE TO PROVIDE MORE OF A BARRIER TO THE PARK INTERIOR.

MAYBE KEEP IT SMALL IF YOU WANT TO KEEP A WILD AREA.

BUT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS AND SAY THAT THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALKS, AND LET'S BE HONEST, OUR GUYS ARE BUSY ENOUGH TRYING TO MAINTAIN PARKS, TRYING TO MAINTAIN A WILD AREA, IS JUST AS HARD AS TRYING TO KEEP IT MODE.

I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO SOME EXTENT ON THE PAVILION BECAUSE THERE WERE COMMENTS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT LAKESIDE PARK PAVILION WAS VERY EXPENSIVE, AND IT WAS A BIG CHUNK OF OUR MONEY FOR THAT PARK, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE SAME THING HERE, BUT WE'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING AGAIN.

A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS PARK IS GOING TO GO RIGHT IN THAT PAVILION, AND THEY'LL BE VERY LITTLE LEFT OVER.

I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.

I LIKE IT IF WE CAN AFFORD IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO AFTER THAT.

>> WELL, AND I THINK SOME OF IT, TOO, WE HAVE SCALED DOWN.

I THINK ABOUT LAKESIDE, LAKESIDE, THE ROOF IS PRETTY HEFTY.

THIS IS NOT TO THE SCALE OF WHAT LAKESIDE, SO WE'VE TONED SOME OF THAT DOWN, BUT STILL WANTED TO KEEP A SIMILAR PARK STANDARD, IF YOU WILL, SO YOU STILL HAVE SOME OF THE SIMILAR LOOK AND FEEL.

>> I FEEL COMFORTABLE IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A PRICE TAG ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> THEN MY OTHER COMMENT WOULD BE ON THE WATER FEATURES.

I LIKE THE INCORPORATION OF THE RIVER BED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THOSE THINGS.

WHEN WE DID IT, WE ASKED THE PUBLIC TO GIVE US WHAT? FIVE TO ELEVEN YEAR OLD, [OVERLAPPING] 5-7.

>> THAT WAS THE PLAYGROUND.

YOU HAVE THE 5-12 AND THE UNDER 5.

>> WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS, IS THERE WATER FEATURES TO BE UNDER CONSIDERATION OR THE WATER FEATURES IS JUST FOR THE 5-7 AND THE YOUNG KIDS?

>> WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO SERVE A PURPOSE OF THE MAJORITY OF THEM.

THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU START ADDING FOR THE OLDER.

STARTING TO GET OVER THE 12, THE UP TENS AND OVER, THE COST IS GOING TO GET A LOT HIGHER.

THE CURRENT DESIGN FROM WHAT BERTA HAS EXPLAINED FALLS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT COST-WISE FOR THE SPLASH PAD AS IS.

IF YOU ALL RECALL, WE MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND AN ADDITIONAL PHASES OR IF ADDITIONAL FUNDING COMES IN TO BE ABLE TO ADD THAT.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE COULD POTENTIALLY ADD AS IT GROWS.

>> MY FINAL COMMENT IS ALSO SAME AS COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BERMS STAY.

WE HAD ENOUGH FLAT LAND AROUND HERE.

GIVEN ME SOME HILLS TO ROLL DOWN.

I'M SURE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING GOING ON AROUND HERE WITH THAT DIRT.

>> I KNOW WHERE WE CAN FIND SOME CARE.

>> I KNOW WHERE WE CAN FIND SOME CARE, TOO. [LAUGHTER][BACKGROUND] WE'LL JUST PAY TO HAVE IT MOVED AGAIN.

>> A COMMENT I WILL PUT ON THIS IS THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO GET 3D RENDERINGS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP AND START TO SOLICIT THAT, WHICH WILL START TO INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO ADD MORE ELEMENTS TO THE PARK.

>> MY ONLY COMMENT IS I WANT US TO MOVE QUICKLY.

[OVERLAPPING] THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT HAS LAST, TO YOUR CREDIT, TO THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

YOU AND MEGAN, YOUR PREDECESSOR STARTED TO FEEL LIKE I'M MAKING PROGRESS NOW, BUT MAN, IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET OFF THE GROUND. A LONG TIME.

THAT MEANS THAT'S MORE GENERATIONS OF KIDS ON THE SOUTH SIDE NOT HAVING A PARK, AND SO THE LONGER WE DRAG, ANOTHER GENERATION OF CHILDHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME CHOICES. WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ALONG.

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WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE AMENDMENTS LATER ON.

AT TIMES, FUNDS WILL COME AVAILABLE.

FUTURE COUNCILS WILL MAKE ADDITIONS TO IT AT THE TIME NECESSARY TO GET TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY.

WHAT IT WANTS WILL BE, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING.

>> I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST HELP ME AND REFRESH MY MEMORY, WHAT WERE THE SPONSORSHIP ITEMS LOOKING LIKE? I WOULDN'T REALLY WANT THIS PROJECT TO LOOK LIKE IDIOCRACY AND SPONSORED BY BRONDO.

[LAUGHTER]

>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE WAITING ON THE RENDERING PIECE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP TO SHOW THAT, BUT THE INTENT IS NOT TO BROADCAST THE SPONSOR SIDE TO IT.

WE WERE CONSIDERING THINGS OF HAVING ONE CENTRAL LOCATION THAT MIGHT MENTION THE SUPPORT OF.

IT'S JUST STRATEGIC IN PLACE, AND THEY WOULD KNOW THAT GOING INTO IT.

OUR PARKS, ALREADY BEEN NAMED.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO NAME ALL THE FEATURES WITHIN.

YOU WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE MEMORIAL OF ABIGAIL, BUT ALSO WE WOULD RECOGNIZE AND DO A TASTEFUL THANK YOU.

>> I'D SAY RECOGNITION IS FINE, BUT ADVERTISING PLACEMENT. NASCA [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT IS NOT THE INTENT BEHIND THIS.

>> ARE WE SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO START WORKING ON OR START CONSTRUCTION UNTIL 41 OF 26?

>> IF WE WERE TO GO ON CURRENT PLANS, YES.

THAT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN SPEED SOME OF THE THINGS UP.

IF WE MOVE AHEAD, I WILL SAY THAT THEY STARTED TO WORK ON THE RENDERINGS AND DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME TO CUT OFF SOME OF THE LAG TIME THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.

WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT IF WE CAN STAY ON TOP OF IT, WE CAN TRY TO PUSH IT FORWARD.

>> PLEASE EXPRESS TO BURT THAT THEIR DURATIONS ARE WAY TOO LONG.

WE'RE TALKING FOUR WEEKS FOR EVERY ONE OF THEIR ITEMS, FOR THE MOST PART, 1M'S FIVE, 1M'S THREE.

THAT'S TOO MUCH. THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THIS SO FAR, BUT MARY [INAUDIBLE] TELLS IT'S LAGGING AND BURT NEEDS TO PICK IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

>> WE WOULD APPRECIATE THEIR ASSISTANCE IN EXPEDITING THIS.

>> WE CAN WORK ON NICER WAYS.

>> FUNDS HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE.

>> WHETHER THERE'S AN AMPLE FUNDS TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING, THERE'S A DEBATE.

BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THERE ISN'T MONEY AVAILABLE. WE NEED TO BE MOVING.

>> AT THIS POINT, WE SHOULD START TO SEE QUICKER PROGRESS.

NOW THAT WE'RE AT THAT POINT OF ADOPTING THE MASTER PLAN AND THE PROPOSED PHASE 1, THAT'S WHERE IT'S STARTING TO NARROW INTO THAT.

NOW IT'S MORE OF THE MINOR COMMENTS OF, THEY PRESENTED THREE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS FOR THE PAVILION, WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING TO GO WITH? YOU'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THOSE ELEMENTS, AND SO IT SHOULD BE A QUICKER PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

WE CAN TRY TO PUSH THAT. I'LL GET WITH THEM THIS WEEK TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE UP SOME OF THE TIMELINE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, COUNCILMAN SARTIN EXPRESSED IT PRETTY CLEAR, I THINK.

I KNOW YOU'RE JUST THE CONDUIT.

DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE ATTACKING YOU, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE OUR MOUTHPIECES TO THEM, SO WE NEED YOU TO REALLY HELP SHARE THE COUNCIL'S FEELINGS.

>> JUMPING BACK ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, I THINK HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I THINK THOSE GRASSY AREAS WOULD BE BETTER AS BOUNDARY LINES CLOSER TO THE FENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AROUND THE PERIMETER.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A BAD IDEA TO HAVE THOSE IN SMALL FORM AROUND THE PERIMETER TO KEEP PEOPLE NOT TRAPPED IN, BUT AWAY FROM THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THE PARK.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE PARK?

>> NUMBER 13, UPDATE DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE EXISTING WATER WELLS.

[13. Update, discussion and possible action on the existing water wells.]

WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING, HECTOR.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I FIGURED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PRETTY GOOD TOPIC.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE ALSO HAVE JACOB GLOVER HERE, IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T MET HIM.

HE'S OUR CHIEF WATER OPERATOR.

HE'S THE MAN BEHIND THE WATER, SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION HIM.

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CURRENTLY, OUR WATER SYSTEM, WE HAVE BWA WATER, PURCHASED SURFACE WATER, AND ALSO SOME WELL WATER.

THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE AVERAGED 85% BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY, 15% WATER WELLS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR CONTRACT WITH BWA, IT'S TAKE-OR-PAY 2.3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

OUR WATER WELLS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE ACTIVE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY EFFECTIVELY UTILIZE AND TREAT THE ACTUAL WELL WATER, THERE'S ONLY TWO OF THEM.

THAT'S WELL NUMBER 11 ON HENDERSON ROAD, WELL NUMBER 14, WHICH IS FREEDOM PARK.

WE ALSO HAVE OTHER WELLS THAT ARE OPERATIONAL, 8, 9, AND 10, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE IS TWO REASONS.

IT'S A TRANSMISSION LINE ISSUE.

THAT'S WHAT'S DISPLAYED UP THERE RIGHT NOW.

WE'D HAVE TO INSTALL A NEW TRANSMISSION LINE TO PROPERLY UTILIZE THOSE WELLS BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE ONE TRANSMISSION LINE, AND WE USE THAT TO PUMP BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY WATER FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.

YOU CAN'T MIX RAW WELL WATER AND TREATED SURFACE WATER.

YOU'LL HAVE A BOIL-WATER NOTICE ON YOUR HANDS.

HENCE THE REASON THEY'RE EMERGENCY ONLY, SO WE CAN'T USE THEM ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

MY RECENT DISCOVERY IS THAT WE HAVE SOME OLD WELLS THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS.

BUT WE DID FIND OUT THAT THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY PLUGGED AND THEY ARE MAYBE SALVAGEABLE.

WE JUST HAVE TO GET TO THAT POINT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION; IS TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT.

WITH THIS BEING SAID, THE CURRENT WELL CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 MILLION GALLONS.

IF WE WERE TO GET JUST THE EMERGENCY WELLS GOING, JUST INSTALL A TRANSMISSION LINE, FOR INSTANCE, WE'LL INCREASE OUR CAPACITY TO ANOTHER THREE MILLION GALLONS WITH THOSE WELLS.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO INSTALL A TRANSMISSION LINE AND ALSO A NEW CHEMICAL BUILDING THERE AT CHENANGO WATER PLANT BECAUSE GETTING THE WATER, THERE IS PROBLEM NUMBER 1, TREATING THE WATER IS PROBLEM NUMBER 2.

IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY GET THOSE WELLS AND THE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT WEREN'T PLUGGED, YOU'D HAVE TO DO BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS IN TANDEM.

YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THE WATER, AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO TREAT IT.

THOSE ARE TWO PROBLEMS THAT WE'D HAVE TO FACE FIRST, AND THAT'S A COST OF APPROXIMATELY $5.1 MILLION THERE.

TO COMPLETELY REHABILITATE THE TWO WELLS THAT ARE IN THE GROUND THAT WE FOUND OUT WEREN'T PLUGGED, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $400,000-600,000 PER SITE.

JUST DEPENDS ON THE SEVERITY OF THE REPAIRS.

IT WOULD COST US APPROXIMATELY $40,000 PER SITE TO ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY DETERMINE WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO BRING THOSE WELLS BACK TO LIFE.

WHAT WOULD THEIR CAPACITY BE? ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT COMPARED TO A COST OF $2-3 MILLION TO DRILL A BRAND NEW WELL.

THERE IS COST SAVINGS IN REHABILITATING THESE WELLS, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT IF IT'S POSSIBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> HECTOR, CAN I STOP YOU? WE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE WELLS.

THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST PORTION OF ONE REASON WHY ONE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM; WERE THOSE WELLS RIGHT THERE.

THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. WE WON'T HAVE TO GO ANY DEEPER.

WILL WE? OR WE DON'T KNOW THAT?

>> WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SPEND APPROXIMATELY $40,000 A PIECE.

IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A CONDITION OF IT, WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO DO A CHEMICAL ANALYSIS ON THE WATER, FIND OUT PREVIOUS PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD WITH ARSENIC, THOSE THINGS, YES.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS OUR CURRENT WELLS, THE EMERGENCY ONES THAT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY UTILIZE, BUT THEY'RE OPERATIONAL, WELL, WAS ONE OF THEM HAD A MINIMAL LEVEL OF ARSENIC, WHICH IS EASILY TREATABLE, NOTHING LIKE FREEDOM PARKS LEVELS.

>> IF WE WERE TO REHABILITATE ONE OF THOSE, IT STILL HAS TO HAVE A TRANSMISSION LINE?

>> CORRECT.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE A TRANSMISSION LINE EITHER, DO THEY?

>> WELL, SO THE TRANSMISSION LINE WE HAVE, YOU CAN DO ONE OR THE OTHER.

YOU COULD PUMP ALL THE WELLS THROUGH THERE OR YOU COULD PUMP BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY WATER FROM PLANT NUMBER 3, WHICH IS ON ANDERSON ROAD ALL THE WAY TO PLANT NUMBER 2 ON CHENANGO.

WE ONLY GOT ONE, BUT THEY'RE ALL PLUMBED IN TOGETHER.

RIGHT NOW WE LEAVE ALL THE WELLS OFF AND TREATED WATER FROM ONE PLANT TO THE OTHER.

>> I REMEMBER TALKING TO MR. KING ONE TIME AND HE SHOWED ME THAT YOU COULD MIX THE WATER IN THE TANK.

THE MIXING LEVELS, YOU WERE TESTING IT FROM THERE.

IS THAT STILL THE CASE OR [OVERLAPPING] DO YOU KEEP THEM COMPLETELY SEPARATE NOW?

>> NO. YOU'RE PUTTING RAW WELL WATER INSIDE OF TREATED WATER ONCE YOU TURN THOSE WELLS ON AND PUMP THEM INTO THAT SAME LINE.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU'LL CAUSE MORE [OVERLAPPING]

>> CHECK THE RAW WELL WATER NOW.

>> RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS YOU'D HAVE TO SEND IT TO CHENANGO PLANT, BUT YOU'D BE ON A BOIL-WATER NOTICE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TREAT THE WATER AT CHENANGO.

THERE'S NOT A SUFFICIENT TREATMENT SYSTEM THERE.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO DO TWO PROJECTS IN ONE, EVEN JUST TO USE YOUR EMERGENCY WELLS.

CURRENTLY THAT YOU HAVE, EVEN TO USE THOSE PROPERLY, YOU'D HAVE TO INSTALL A NEW TRANSMISSION LINE, AND ALSO TO TREAT IT THERE AT

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THE PLANT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TREATMENT SYSTEM THERE AT THE CHENANGO PLANT.

>> HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY THAT NEW TRANSMISSION LINE WOULD COST, APPROXIMATELY? DID YOU THROW THAT NUMBER OUT?

>> YEAH, 2.1 MILLION.

>> 2.1 MILLION FOR THAT.

>> TO BUILD A NEW TRANSFER LINE, CORRECT.

>> LET'S SEE.

>> THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ONLINE THAT WE HAVE ARE 8, 9, AND 10.

NUMBER 8 IS RICH'S CAR WASH, NUMBER 9 IS SHANNON STREET, AND NUMBER 10 IS BEHIND, OR THEY'RE BUILDING THOSE NEW APARTMENTS BEHIND SPEC'S.

THEY'RE OPERATIONAL. AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TREAT THEM OR PROPERLY TRANSPORT THE WATER.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THOSE ARE ALL THE COSTS, AND IF WE WERE TO REHAB WELLS 6 AND 7, THAT GIVES US AN ADDITIONAL APPROXIMATELY 1.3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF EXTRA CAPACITY, WHICH IN TERMS OF CONNECTIONS IS APPROXIMATELY 2,400 CONNECTIONS.

BUT I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WITHOUT BUILDING THE WATER TOWER, WE'RE STILL LIMITED ON CONNECTIONS.

THIS IS GIVING US GREAT CONNECTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.

WE'RE INCREASING OUR CAPACITY.

BUT THAT WATER TOWER IS OUR CURRENT LIMITING CAPACITY, WHERE WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 300 CONNECTIONS LEFT.

AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO USELESS IN THAT SENSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SELL THE WATER.

JUST LIKE WITH OUR CURRENT BWA CONTRACT, WE CAN'T USE IT ALL BECAUSE WE CAN'T SELL THE WATER.

WE'RE OUT OF CONNECTIONS.

UNTIL EVERYTHING'S BUILT OUT, THAT'LL INCREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT EVEN TO THAT SAME TOKEN, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL ALL THIS WATER.

AGAIN, JUST IN ORDER TO GET THE MAX CAPACITY, HAVE ALL THESE WELLS, WHICH WOULD ADD 4.3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, ALL THESE THINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN THAT ORDER.

YOU'D HAVE TO DO TRANSMISSION LINE AND CHENANGO CHEMICAL BUILDING.

THOSE TWO PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETED FIRST THEN WE COULD START UTILIZING THE THREE WELLS WE HAVE ON A DAILY BASIS.

REHABILITATING WELLS 6 AND 7, YOU'D ALREADY HAVE THOSE OTHER TWO PROJECTS DONE.

YOU CAN GET THOSE REHABILITATED, START PUMPING THEM IN THE SAME LINE AND INCREASE YOUR CAPACITY AGAIN.

WITH OUR CURRENT BWA CONTRACT, WE'RE PAYING $4.60 PER THOUSAND GALLONS.

THE COST THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, IT'S A FULL COST OF WELL WATER NOW.

THAT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, ALL THOSE THINGS IS APPROXIMATELY $2.02 PER THOUSAND GALLONS.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST DIFFERENCE.

AGAIN, THIS IS INCLUDING MAINTENANCE TO WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY CALCULATING FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF A WELL PUMP MOTOR, ANY ISSUES WE HAVE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE THAT FULL COST PRICING OUT.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT OF THE CURRENT BWA CONTRACT.

WE CAN'T REDUCE THE USAGE, OF COURSE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO STICK WITH 2.3 MILLION GALLONS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, WHICH MEANS WE'LL STAY AT 2.3 MILLION GALLONS, WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING FROM BWA.

THEY'LL STILL HAVE THEIR ANNUAL INCREASES, OF COURSE.

BUT IN THE LONG RUN, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY HELP US, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSTANTLY INCREASE THE CAPACITY WE'RE GETTING FROM BRAZOSPORT WATER AUTHORITY.

IT'S NOT A TODAY PAYOFF, IT'S A LATER PAYOFF.

>> I WISH JOHN PETERSON WAS HERE TONIGHT.

THE 2.3 OF [INAUDIBLE] YOU SAID WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME WITH THAT.

BUT JOHN TELLS US WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY CONNECTIONS LEFT.

>> CORRECT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOURCE WATER CAPACITY HERE.

THIS IS OUR SOURCE WATER CAPACITY, WHICH IS THE SURFACE WATER IN THE WELLS.

OUR LIMITING CAPACITY IS THE WATER TOWER.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OUT OF CONNECTIONS WITH BECAUSE PER TCEQ, YOU HAVE TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF GALLONS PER CONNECTIONS OF [OVERLAPPING] ELEVATED STORAGE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OUT OF.

UNTIL YOU BUILD ANOTHER WATER TOWER, THAT WILL INCREASE YOU, I THINK IT WAS 2,700 CONNECTIONS, I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

WE BUILD THE TOWER ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT UNTIL YOU DO THAT, ALL THIS IS NULL AND VOID.

YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR CAPACITY FOR NO REASON.

IF WE NEVER BUILD A WATER TOWER, THEN WE'RE OKAY SITTING THE WAY WE ARE.

WE DON'T NEED EXTRA SOURCE WATER.

>> THANKS FOR PUTTING IT THAT WAY.

>> WHAT WAS THE COST OF THE WATER TOWER ON THE SOUTH SIDE?

>> THE SOUTH SIDE, I BELIEVE IT WAS RIGHT UNDER FIVE MILLION, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY ESTIMATING THE ONE WE BUILT UP NORTH, WHICH IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MILLION GALLON, AND THAT'S RIGHT AROUND SEVEN MILLION, 7.2 MILLION.

THE ONE ON SOUTH SIDE IS 0.75, 750,000 GALLONS.

THIS ONE ON NORTH SIDE WOULD BE PROJECTED TO BE A LITTLE BIGGER.

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>> IS THIS IN ADDITION TO THE NORTH SIDE, OR THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US 2,700 CONNECTIONS?

>> WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONNECTION COUNTS.

OVERALL, WE HAVE A TOTAL CONNECTION COUNT IN THE CITY.

THAT'S JUST EVERY EQUIVALENT SERVICE UNIT, NOT JUST METERS, BUT YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEX.

IT MAY HAVE ONE METER, BUT HAVE HUNDREDS OF CONNECTIONS, WELL, THAT'S WHAT OUR TOTAL CONNECTIONS ACROSS THE CITY ARE.

ACCORDING TO TCQ, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS OF CAPACITIES.

ONE IS YOUR OVERALL STORAGE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE GROUND STORAGE, ELEVATED STORAGE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE THERE.

ANOTHER ONE IS BOOSTER PUMP CAPACITY.

THAT'S WHAT HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO PUMP OUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR US YET, BUT OUR NEAREST THREAD IS ELEVATED STORAGE, WHICH IS ALL OUR TOWERS.

COMBINED, WE'RE ALREADY OUT OF CONNECTIONS BASED ON WIN ROSE GREEN BUILDING BEING BUILT OUT, WE'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR THOSE.

WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR AUSTIN COLONY, ALL OF THOSE PROJECTED OUT.

AFTER ALL THOSE ARE 100% BUILT OUT, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 312 CONNECTIONS LEFT.

IF I WERE TO BREAK EVERYTHING DOWN, WATER TOWER FIRST, THEN WE NEED THIS CAPACITY.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WATER TOWER NOW.

WE CAN INCREASE OUR CONNECTION COUNT OVERALL, WHICH MEANS WE CAN SELL MORE WATER, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY START USING OUR ENTIRE 2.3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, FOR INSTANCE, AND ALSO OUR WELLS.

AT THAT POINT, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THIS SO THAT WE HAVE MORE SOURCE WATER TO PUMP OUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO LAY THEM OUT IN ORDER.

YOU WANT TO GET THE WATER PLANT BUILT FIRST, THEN YOU WOULD WANT TO INCREASE YOUR SOURCE WATER.

ONCE YOU GET TO THAT POINT, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR EXTRA SOURCE WATER.

THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD DO IT OR WANT TO DO IT IN A PERFECT WORLD.

>> IF WE COULD WAVE OUR MAGIC WAND AND BUILD OUT THE LINE AND THE CHEMICAL BUILDING AND HAVE IT ALL WORKING, HOW MUCH EXTRA STAFF WOULD WE NEED FOR IT TO ALL RUN?

>> AT LEAST ONE. I COULD SAY WE NEED ONE NOW JUST WITH THE ADDITION OF FREEDOM PARK.

YOU'RE PUTTING A WHOLE NEW TREATMENT AREA ONLINE, SO I'D DEFINITELY SAY AT LEAST ONE MORE OPERATOR FOR SURE.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT COMES WITH TRUCK AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

>> ARE WE CURRENTLY TREATING THE WATER AT FREEDOM PARK THERE AND THEN PUMPING IT INTO THE LINE?

>> CORRECT. THE LITTLE STORAGE TANK THERE, WE TREAT THE WATER, IT GOES IN THE TANK AND THEN IT PUMPS OUT OF THE TANK.

>> I WAS THINKING INDIVIDUAL TREATMENT UNITS PER WELL.

EVEN WITH GROUND STORAGE WHERE IT MADE SENSE AT THE SITE.

>> YOU CAN DO THAT. IT'S JUST WE DON'T KNOW.

THE CURRENT ONES, WE HAVE A CHEMICAL COMPOUND OF WHAT'S IN IT.

THAT MAKES IT A BIT EASIER FOR US TO PLAN THAT OUT AND HOW WE COULD TREAT IT.

HOW MUCH DETENTION TIME DO WE NEED? HOW BIG DOES THAT TANK NEED TO BE TO DO DETENTION TIME? BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TREAT WATER IN THAT MANNER, IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT JUST TO PUMP IT STRAIGHT INTO THE SYSTEM.

IT'S DOABLE, BUT IT'S ALSO RISKY BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT IF THERE'S A MISTAKE OR JUST AN ISSUE WITH TREATMENT, THE CHEMICALS THERE, THE EQUIPMENT.

IF IT FAILS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU'RE PUMPING RAW WATER DIRECTLY INTO THE SYSTEM.

THAT'S POTENTIALLY A SOLUTION, BUT ALSO THE RISKIEST SOLUTION.

STORAGE THERE ON SITE.

NOW WE'LL BUILD ANOTHER TANK THAT WE GOT TO MAINTAIN, PUT COATINGS ON, ALL THOSE THINGS.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT A COUPLE OF TANKS WITH FAILING COATINGS THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE.

DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THAT MORE? DO YOU WANT TO UTILIZE WHAT YOU HAVE? ARE ALL THINGS THAT JUST NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN PROS AND CONS?

>> THESE ARE ALL GOOD POINTS.

I'M NOT INCREDIBLY FAMILIAR WITH OUR BWA CONTRACT.

WELL, BECAUSE A 50% DELTA IN WATER IS SIGNIFICANT.

DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, HECTOR, BECAUSE YOU WERE SPEAKING ON IT A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS HOW LONG CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO THEM WAS AT THE SET CAPACITY?

>> I JUST GOT EVERYTHING E-MAILED ME TODAY, SO I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.

>> NO WORRIES.

>> FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL AND FROM MY DISCUSSIONS WITH BWA IS THAT WE'RE FOR SURE UNDER CONTRACT UNTIL ALL THESE BONDS ARE PAID OUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS TIED INTO, ESPECIALLY THIS EXTRA HALF A MILLION GALLONS WE GOT RECENTLY.

A LOT OF THAT WAS TIED UP INTO SOME OF THE BONDS THAT THEY'VE DRILLED WELLS AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.

YOU GOT OPTIONS TO GET OUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOOD OPTIONS.

EITHER YOU'VE GOT TO FIND ANOTHER CITY TO BUY THAT HALF MILLION GALLONS AND BUY IT AT THE RATE YOU'RE BUYING IT AT.

OR YOU'D HAVE TO COMPLETELY BUY OUT THOSE BONDS OR THERE'S 25 YEARS LEFT ON THEM,

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YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT ENTIRE FULL AMOUNT TO GET OUT OF IT.

THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY OPTIONS WITH THOSE CONTRACTS BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'RE STRUCTURED.

THEY'RE STRUCTURED ALL BASED ON THEM PAYING BONDS AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURES.

BUT AGAIN, HAVEN'T READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING, BUT IT'S THE JIST OF WHAT I GOT FROM THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

>> I WANT TO SAY THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS, I THINK, 1987 FOR 30 YEARS.

I THINK THEY REUPPED IT IN 2015, 2016.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU? THEN I THINK IT'S ANOTHER 30 YEAR CONTRACT PLUS THE BONDS.

>> FOR THE TWO HALF MILLION.

>> IT CAME TO US IN 2020, 2021?

>> OCTOBER, '22 IS WHEN THE INCREASE STARTED.

>> LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. WE GOT ANOTHER 20 YEARS.

>> JUST AS A WATER OPERATOR, I WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT WE GET AWAY FROM BWA.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE STAY WHERE WE'RE AT, AND I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE DO THESE THINGS TO FURTHER BUILD OUR RESILIENCE.

BUT I WOULD HATE TO SAY TO GET AWAY FROM THEM BECAUSE FROM A RESILIENCE STANDPOINT, IT'S NOT SMART.

WELL, ALSO ON THAT TOO, EVENTUALLY, WE'LL HAVE SOME TYPE OF SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT, BUT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR BRAZORI COUNTY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

THEIR PROJECTIONS HAVE GOTTEN FURTHER OUT.

THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY TYPE OF SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT FROM WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME FOR ANOTHER 40-50 YEARS AT A MINIMUM, JUST BASED ON THE NEW NUMBERS THEY'RE GETTING ON USAGE AROUND THE COUNTY.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD TIME FOR GROUNDWATER, APPARENTLY HERE IN THE COUNTY.

APPARENTLY THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME IN A PHONE CALL CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THEM.

>> OUR WELLS, WE ALREADY HAVE IN EXISTENCE.

WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO USE THEM.

>> OH, CORRECT. BUT THE THING IS, THEY'LL PUT RESTRICTIONS ON YOUR USAGE, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY IN A SENSE TO DO THAT.

OR FOR INSTANCE, PEOPLE IN SUBSIDENCE DISTRICTS, THEY'LL HAVE TO PERFORM MITIGATION TYPE PROJECTS OR WATER CONSERVATION PROJECTS IN ORDER TO ALLOT THEM MORE GROUNDWATER AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

WE USE PROGRAM, STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT THIS IN SOME LONG TERM PLAN.

>> BUT YOU GOT TO STAY. IF YOU BEGIN THE PLAN, YOU GOT TO EXECUTE THE PLAN.

>> NO.

>> I KNOW, AND THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S GOING TO BE STEADY TURNOVER AND COUNSEL, SO THEY WILL TO CONTINUE.

MAY CHANGE IS WHAT I'M THINKING.

>> I THINK REGARDLESS, THIS NEEDS TO COME BACK FOR US TO LOOK AT FUNDING, A REVIEW OF THE WELLS AND JUST SEE WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THIS GOES ALONG WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PUT IN FRONT OF US WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY.

>> TO ME, THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.

>> I AGREE. ROADS LIKE HENDERSON COULD BE ARGUED, BUT ANYWAY, RIGHT UP THERE.

>> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STAGES.

WOULDN'T YOU AGREE THAT THE NORTH SIDE WATER TOWER IS PROBABLY FIRST AND FOREMOST?

>> OF COURSE, YES. BECAUSE THAT'S OUR LIMITING CAPACITY.

LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DO WITH THIS.

WE CAN'T CONNECT ANYBODY ELSE TO THE SYSTEM TO SELL THE WATER.

WATER TOWER HAS TO BE FIRST.

>> THEN A WELL?

>> WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST FIRST THE TRANSFER LINE IN THE CHEMICAL BUILDING.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE THREE WELLS THAT ARE OPERATIONAL, BUT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY TREAT THE WATER AND SEND IT OUT CURRENTLY BECAUSE IT'S ALL RAW WELL WATER.

WE DON'T HAVE A TREATMENT SYSTEM THERE AT OUR PLANT ON CHENANGO.

THAT'S HOW I WOULD PUT IT IN OLDER.

I'D PUT IT IN WATER TOWER.

TRANSFER LINE, CHENANGO CHEMICAL BUILDING REALLY NEED TO GO IN TANDEM.

THAT ALSO WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE ALL OF OUR BWA CONTRACT.

BECAUSE CURRENTLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE PUMP AS MUCH AS WE CAN OF THE BWA WATER, BUT OUR WELLS HAVE TO COMPENSATE IN BETWEEN BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET BWA DISTRIBUTED FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE WE'RE PUMPING FROM ONE PLANT TO THE OTHER.

IT'S NOT EFFICIENT. IF YOU HAD THOSE TAKE POINTS, RIGHT NOW BUILDING THAT NEW TRANSFER LINE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE BUILDING A TAKE POINT STRAIGHT FROM BWA TO THAT PLANT.

YOU'RE PUMPING BWA IN THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS NOW VERSUS JUST TWO AND THEN HAVING TO MOVE IT FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.

NOW, YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT 2.3 MILLION GALLONS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR, NO MATTER WHAT.

OF COURSE, YOU WANT TO TRY TO UTILIZE EVERY DROP OF THAT WATER, BUT CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE HIGH PEAK FLOWS.

OUR WELLS HAVE TO KICK ON AND COMPENSATE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT 15% USING WELL WATER, 85% PWA.

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BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ALL OUR WATER ANYWAYS WITHOUT NEW WATER TOWER ENOUGH CONNECTIONS TO SELL THE WATER TOO.

>> IT HAS TO BE A MILLION DOLLAR OR A MILLION GALLON TANK?

>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY AT A LIMIT OF 300 CONNECTIONS.

LET'S SAY YOU BUILT HALF THAT, AND YOU INCREASE YOURSELF 1,200 CONNECTIONS.

YOU BUILD HALF MILLION GALLONS, 1,200 CONNECTIONS.

HOW FAST IS THAT GOING TO GO? EXTREMELY FAST, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME BOAT.

>> ISN'T THAT ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AT 50, 000? YOU WANT TO GO EVEN BIGGER THAN THE SOUTH SIDE?

>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE'D ADD TO THAT'S WHAT HDR STUDIED AS WELL IN THEIR STUDY, BUT BASED ON PROJECTED GROWTH.

WE JUST COMPLETED OUR UTILITY MASTER PLAN.

WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED IT YET.

WE'RE STILL READING THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S HIGHLY SUGGESTED IN THAT AS WELL, MILLION GALLON TANK.

>> THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET ONE MILLION GALLON TANK IS IF DEVELOPER BUYS INTO HELPING FUND THAT WATER TOWER?

>> YES. AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WITHOUT TOWER, THIS IS NULL AND VOID.

IT'S NOT REALLY MUCH POINT IN US PUTTING MONEY IN ON THIS.

BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A TOWER, THEN YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SELL THE WATER.

I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER IS AS YOU DEVELOP ANGLETON, HOW FAR DO YOU WANT TO DEVELOP ANGLETON? DO WE WANT A NEW TOWER? DO YOU WANT THOSE EXTRA CONNECTIONS?

>> MY THING IS, FIRST OFF, WE'VE GOT TO SHORE UP THIS COST STRUCTURE ON THE WATERFRONT.

I THINK THE WELLS WOULD HELP GO A LONG WAYS TO DOING THAT.

>> WE'RE NOT USING OUR EXISTING CAPACITY.

>> NOT USING THE EXISTING CAPACITY NOW.

>> THEN OUR HANDS ARE TIED BASED ON THE CONTRACT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CONSUMPTION THAT WE HAVE TO USE.

>> WE'VE PUT A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HOPING THAT THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY START PAYING OFF A LITTLE BIT MORE.

>> WELL, A LOT OF THE MONEY WE'VE PUT INTO RECENTLY IS ALL REHABILITATION STUFF.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> BECAUSE WE PUT IN STUFF 50, 60 YEARS AGO, AND HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT SINCE, SO WE HAD TO COMPLETELY REPLACE STRUCTURES.

YES, IT'S A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT WE'VE INVESTED, BUT IT'S BEEN ALL REHABILITATION.

>> CAN I ASK YOU THIS: THE NORTH SIDE OR THE CURRENT NORTH SIDE WATER TOWER, NORTH SIDE ELEMENTARY WATER TOWER.

WHAT'S THE CONDITION OF THAT WATER TOWER?

>> IT NEEDS TO BE RECOATED.

>> WELL, WE'LL BE PAYING FOR ANOTHER ONE VERY SOON.

>> WELL, A RECOATING OF THAT TOWER IS WHAT THE LAST COST WILL BE 750,000, I THINK? I THINK IT WAS 750,000 THE LAST COST WE GOT ON THAT TO RECOAT THAT ENTIRE TANK, BUT VERSUS REBUILDING A NEW TANK, THAT'S JUST PART OF MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TANKS.

FROM WHAT I SAW BASED ON REPORTS, THE PREVIOUS COATING THAT GOT INSTALLED ON JUST WASN'T A GOOD COATING, WASN'T A GOOD JOB DONE.

WE LOST SOME YEARS OUT OF IT.

BUT BEING ON THE COAST, WE PROJECT THESE COATINGS TO LAST 20, 25 YEARS, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THAT BASED ON THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE HERE.

>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE FUND FIXING THAT TOWER.

>> IT'LL BE BACK ON THE BUDGET AS A REQUESTED.

>> IT'LL JUST BE A SHAME IF WE KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, ANOTHER COUNCIL HAS GOT TO FIX THAT TOWER AND WE COULD HAVE DONE MAINTENANCE TO KEEP IT ITS LIFE SPAN.

>> THAT'S REALLY WHAT ANOTHER FOCUS WE NEED TO PUT ON IS MAINTENANCE.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IS JUST BASED ON THE PROJECTS WE'VE HAD TO DO, IT'S ALL RUN UNTIL FAILURE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE WATER LINES THEMSELVES? YOUR MAIN TRANSMISSION LINES THROUGH THE CITY.

IS THERE ONE THAT, IN PARTICULAR YOU KNOW IT'S GOT TO BE REPLACED VERY SOON?

>> YES. I BELIEVE THE 16 INCH WATER LINE, A BIG PORTION OF IT RUNNING DOWN HENDERSON ROAD IS CONCRETE.

>> WE GO WITH HENDERSON ROAD? WHERE TO WHERE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER OFF TOP OF MY HEAD.

I'D JUST KNOW COMING OUT OF THE PLANT, A PORTION OF IT GOT REPLACED.

I BELIEVE AFTER THAT, THE REST OF IT'S AC.

I THINK WAY FURTHER DOWN HENDERSON TOWARDS BACK TO ROAD IN THAT AREA, IT'S PVC, BUT EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN IS PROBABLY CONCRETE.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAIN TRANSMISSION LINES THERE.

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>> THE PIECE THAT WAS REPLACED WAS RIGHT THERE?

>> THESE ARE A TRANSFER LINES.

I THOUGHT YOU MEANT OUR MAJOR LINES THAT PUMP OUR TREATED WATER OUT TO THE RESIDENTS. THESE ARE OUR TRANSFER LINES.

>> I'M USING THE MAP.

>> YES, IT IS THERE.

>> THE WATER LINE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN ACROSS HERE.

>> IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN, I BELIEVE. ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT 16 INCH ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, ALL HAS TO BE REPLACED?

>> IT ALSO GOES TO THE WEST BECAUSE WHEN WE EXPAND IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT SHOULD ALL BE PVC.

>> THAT SHOULD BE [OVERLAPPING]

>> RECENT EXPANSION. IT ALL GOES THAT WAY.

>> THAT SHOULD BE IN GOOD CONDITION.

>> CORRECT. BUT IT'S JUST THE OLDER PORTION OF TOWN.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL PARTS OF IT, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

>> CORRECT.

>> ALONG WITH THE OTHER, WHATEVER IT IS, 56 MILES OF OTHER PIPES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

>> EVERY TIME I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, ANOTHER YEAR ROLLS BY AND ANOTHER YEAR ROLLS BY, AND THEN WE'RE REPLACING STUFF.

I THINK SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE REPLACED MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME.

>> MY SUGGESTION IS TO JUST HAVE A FUND THAT IT'S PERPETUAL FUND.

EVERY YEAR IT'S THERE TO NOT ONLY REPLACE WATER LINES TO PLAN PROJECTS, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTINGENCY AS WELL BECAUSE OUR EMERGENCIES ARE STARTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER IN BETWEEN THEM, WHICH MEANS WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE BILLS COME DUE ON EVERYTHING, AND THEY'RE JUST FALLING APART ON US.

WITHOUT CONSTANTLY REPLACING THINGS AND ALSO HAVING THAT CONTINGENCY FOR EMERGENCIES, WE'RE JUST SLOWLY PUTTING OURSELVES FURTHER AND FURTHER BACK.

JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE ONES WE'VE HAD RECENTLY, WHETHER IT'S SEWER LINES, WATER LINES, WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

>> BUT I'LL SAY THAT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN MORE PROACTIVE THAN ANY PAST COUNCILS I'VE SEEN IN A WHILE.

>> I WOULD AGREE. WE'RE JUST SO FAR BEHIND. WE GOT TO GET AGGRESSIVE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] IN THE PAST. NOBODY WAS DOING REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON THESE LINES AS MUCH AS WE HAVE BEEN.

>> BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WE'RE JUST AT THAT POINT WHERE THINGS ARE FALLING APART.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GET THOSE PHONE CALLS, FAILED SEWER LINE, FAILED WATER LINE, ALL THOSE THINGS.

STREET ISSUES, DRAINAGE.

>> WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD?

>> IF WE JUST WANT TO CHECK OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE WELLS, HOW RECOVERABLE THEY ARE, AGAIN, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $80,000 TO CHECK BOTH OF THOSE WELLS OUT.

THAT'S THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I COULD MAKE AS FAR AS EXPENDING FUNDS TODAY OR TOMORROW, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT AN EMPHASIS ON THAT WATER TOWER.

>> WHAT DID YOU SAY IT WOULD COST TO DRILL A NEW WELL?

>> TWO TO $3 MILLION. JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE.

>> IF WE DID A SURVEY OF THE WELLS, WOULD THAT SURVEY UNCOVER ANY DEFICIENCIES WE WOULD HAVE THAT MAY SAVE THE WELL IF WE NEED TO ADD MONEY TO KEEP IT ONLINE FOR FUTURE USE? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY UNCOVER THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON TO RECONDITION THAT WELL SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE'VE GOT TWO WELLS THAT WE MAY WANT TO USE DOWN THE ROAD THAT COST US $2 MILLION AND SOME OTHER COUNCIL'S IRRITATED BECAUSE THEY'RE WONDERING WHY WE DIDN'T SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BACK THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS WERE KEPT IN WORKING ORDER.

>> THAT'S THAT $40,000 PER SIDE.

THE TWO WELLS THAT, AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT PLUGGED, WE FOUND OUT THEY WEREN'T PLUGGED, THAT'S $40,000 PER SITE TO TELL US, HEY, YOU NEED TO DO THIS, YOU NEED TO REPLACE ALL THE SCREENS ON IT, WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'LL GET US TO TELL US, ARE THEY SALVAGEABLE OR ARE THEY NOT? IF THEY ARE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SALVAGE THEM?

>> I THINK THIS IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO AT LEAST REVIEW THE TWO WELLS TO SEE WHAT THEIR CONDITION IS, WE MIGHT AS WELL CAP THEM.

>> I'M DOWN WITH SEEING WHAT WE HAVE.

LIKE ALL THINGS, IT COMES DOWN TO, WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY TO DO THAT?

>> SOMETHING I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT AS A PLAN SOMETIMES.

>> GOING INTO BUDGET SO YOU CAN START LOOKING IF THERE IS MAYBE.

>> I LOOK TO SUSIE. SHE'S HIDING BACK THERE. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU NEED TO REVIVE HER QUITE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THE INWARD MILLIONS. [LAUGHTER]

>> WELL, THAT'S THE THING.

I THINK IT'D BE TERRIBLE IF IT WAS JUST A DEAL WHERE SOMEBODY SAID IF THEY WOULD HAVE JUST TAKEN A LOOK AT THESE, NOW WE WOULDN'T BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO PUNCH TWO MORE HOLES IN THE GROUND WELL, AT THAT TIME, $5 MILLION OR SOMETHING.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND THIS OUT.

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THAT'S WHY THAT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST THOUGHTS IS, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S POTENTIAL THERE.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I GUESS, AND DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO OR NOT.

>> WE ALL INCLUDED IT AS A BUDGET ITEM DISCUSSION.

>> MR. BOOTH HAS CHIMED IN AND SAID THAT THE 16-INCH WATER MAIN ALONG HENDERSON ROAD IS PVC, NOT AC.

>> MISTAKEN ON THAT THEN.

>> MISS HUE. [LAUGHTER]

>> I JUST KNOW ONE OF THEM IS A AC PIPE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS THAT ONE OR THE ONE THAT COMES OUT OF A NORTH SIDE TOWER, WHICH I THINK THAT'S A 12-INCH, ISN'T IT? AT A NORTH SIDE TOWER? EIGHT INCH? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT'S AC THEN.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES COMING OUT OF THE TOWER PLANT THOSE MAIN LINES.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THE DRAIN LINE.

>> WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT DURING BUDGET TO TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THESE WELLS OR WHAT ACTIONS WE WANT TO TAKE ON THIS.

BUT I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD MAKE SOME EFFORTS IN THIS NEXT BUDGET TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING ON THE WATER SYSTEM. ANYBODY ELSE?

>> THANK YOU FOR GATHERING ALL THIS.

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> THANK YOU, JACOB [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [LAUGHTER]

>> GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU, JACOB.

>> ITEM NUMBER 14, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION,

[14. Discussion and possible action approving the Title VI Plan of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that includes assurances, policy statement, and a complaint form.]

APPROVING THE TITLE 6 PLAN OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 THAT INCLUDES ASSURANCES, POLICY STATEMENT, AND A COMPLAINT FORM. COLEEN?

>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I HAD SENT OUT TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW THE TITLE 6 PLAN THAT IS REQUIRED FOR US TO HAVE AND POST ON OUR WEBSITE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE CONTINUALLY ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL GRANT MONEY.

THAT INCLUDES MONEY FROM TXDOT.

THAT IS HOW THIS TRANSPIRED, TXDOT ASKED ME WHERE OUR PLAN WAS AND THEY'RE GOING ABOUT EVERY CITY ASKING FOR THEIR PLANS.

A NUMBER OF HR DIRECTORS HAVE MET.

WE HAVE COMPILED PLANS THAT ARE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.

WHAT I NEED FROM YOU TODAY IS APPROVAL ON THAT PLAN SO IT CAN BE POSTED.

WE CAN MOVE OUT OF THE RED ZONE FOR TXDOT AND BE APPROVED AS HAVING AN APPROVED TITLE 6 PLAN.

>> COUNCIL?

>> I WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE TITLE 6 PLAN, ASSURANCES POLICY STATEMENT AND COMPLAINT FORM.