[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK.
WE DO HAVE A FULL QUORUM WITH US.
I WOULD ASK FOR EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
>> IF EVERYBODY WOULD BOW THEIR HEADS, TAKE OFF THEIR HATS.
I APPRECIATE IT. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TOGETHER.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CALL THIS CITY HOME.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CITY WHO WORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY HALL, THROUGHOUT THE CITY SERVICES, THROUGH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BE WITH THOSE FAMILIES IN THE HILL COUNTRY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT FACE DEVASTATION AND LOSS OF UNIMAGINABLE LOSSES.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN UPON US AND THAT YOUR WISDOM GUIDE US AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THAT OUR WORDS BE DONE IN A LIGHT THAT WOULD MAKE YOU SMILE.
HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE.
IN YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME, AMEN.
>> IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE PACKED HOUSE TONIGHT.
THOSE LISTENING ONLINE, THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN.
I WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS THIS WEEK.
I WOULD ASK ANY OF YOU THAT FILLED ONE OF THESE FORMS OUT, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM?
>> AGENDA ITEM? DO ALL OF THEM.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF AN AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SEWAGE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH INSTRUMENTATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $88,070. COUNCIL?>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM TOWNSEND, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE POSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM 2, UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON THE STATUS OF THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
[2. Update and discussion on the status of the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) projects, presented by Maria Aponte, TxDOT representative.]
PROJECTS PRESENTED BY MARIA APONTE, TXDOT REPRESENTATIVE.THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY, MARIA.
>> YES. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR RECEIVING ME, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M THE TXDOT BRAZORIA AREA ENGINEER.
SHE IS THE LEAD DESIGNER IN MY OFFICE AS WELL.
BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT, I WANT TO HAVE A SAFETY MOMENT.
WE'RE IN THE SUMMER, WE HAVE A LOT OF VISITORS IN OUR COUNTY, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR KIDS, CHILDREN ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, SO I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHEN WE ARE DRIVING, SCAN THE INTERSECTIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN CONTINUE SAFE AND GET SAFE TO THEIR DESTINATION, AND EVERYBODY CAN COME BACK SAFE AS WELL.
JUST A QUICK SAFETY MOMENT WITH THAT.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO DIRECTLY TO PROJECTS IN THE AREA.
WE JUST COMPLETED THE PROJECT ON FM 521 AT OYSTER CREEK.
WE HAD THE BRIDGE AREA CLOSED FOR ABOUT 6, 7 MONTHS, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT ON TIME AND OPEN AT SCHEDULE.
I HOPE YOU'RE DRIVING THE AREA AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH WIDER AND COMFORTABLE AND SAFER IS THAT BRIDGE.
WE ALSO HAVE ON STATE HIGHWAY 288 AT COUNTY ROAD 290 JUST SOUTH OF HERE, WE'RE DOING SOME REPAIRS TO THE BRIDGE DECK.
THIS WEEKEND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CLOSURE STARTING AGAIN AT FRIDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM UNTIL MONDAY AT 5:00 AM, BUT LAST WEEKEND WE FINISHED EARLIER ON SUNDAY, AND THE SAME CASE, WE'LL BE OPEN AS SOON AS WE'RE COMPLETED.
WE ARE REPAIRING THE BRIDGE DECK OF THAT BRIDGE TO KEEP THE GOOD BRIDGES GOOD OR TO REPAIR ANY DAMAGES WE HAVE HAD.
ALSO, ON STATE HIGHWAY 35, THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE HAVE HERE FROM 523 TO JUST NORTH OF 2403, THE WORK IS DONE, BUT I KNOW YOU'VE NOTICED WE HAVE NO SPEED LIMIT AT THIS TIME.
WE REDUCED THE SPEED LIMIT DURING CONSTRUCTION.
HOWEVER, NOW THAT THE PROJECT IS DONE,
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WE DID A SPEED STUDY TO DETERMINE IF THE SPEED HAVE CHANGED.WE BELIEVE THE SPEED HAVE CHANGED, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE TXDOT COMMISSIONER.
THEIR MEETING IS SOMETIME AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AS SOON AS THEY APPROVE THE SPEED STUDY, WE WILL INSTALL THE NEW SIGNS WITH THE NEW SPEED LIMIT.
>> FROM 523-2403, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
>> FROM 523 TO JUST NORTH OF 2403 CLOSE TO WHERE THE YMCA IS IN IRVING.
>> IT'S ALL GOING TO BE CONSISTENT SPEED ALL THE WAY THROUGH?
>> NO. LIKE IT USED TO BE BEFORE.
IT USED TO VARY LIKE FIVE MILES PER HOUR.
IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE SAME VARIATION, BUT I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE 55-60 INSTEAD OF 60-65, BUT WE HAVE THE SUPER 2, WHICH IS THE ADDITIONAL LANE THAT GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING SLOWER TO MOVE TO THEIR RIGHT, SO VEHICLES WHO ARE DRIVING HOPEFULLY TO THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE WE WANT TO CONTINUE WHERE SAFE ROADS CAN GO ON THE INSIDE LANE.
THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THIS AREA.
WE HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION MULTIPLE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
LIKE IF YOU DRIVE TOWARD THE NORTH OF THE COUNTY ON 288, WE HAVE SEVEN OVERPASSES.
THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS FALL.
THEN WE HAVE THE WHOLE CORRIDOR ON STATE HIGHWAY 36 UNDER CONSTRUCTION WIDENING INTO TWO LANE EACH DIRECTION.
WE HAVE SIX SEGMENTS FROM COUNTY LINE TO FREEPORT.
WE HAVE COMPLETED TWO OF THOSE SEGMENTS, SEGMENTS 14 AND 15, WHICH ARE THE SOUTHERN ONE, JUST FROM JONES CREEK TO FREEPORT.
WE STILL HAVE THE NORTHERN SEGMENTS TO BE COMPLETED.
WITH CONSTRUCTION, HOW IT IS, THE LATEST PROJECT, WHICH IS THE ONE THROUGH WEST COLUMBIA SHOULD BE COMPLETED MAYBE IN THE FALL OF 2026.
THE CONTRACTORS HAVE MANY RESOURCES IN THE AREA, SO IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OPPORTUNITIES OF THOSE, AND HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL FINISH EARLIER, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE IN THE FALL OF 2026 IN THE PORTION IN WEST COLUMBIA.
THE PORTION FROM BRAZORIA TO JONES CREEK, IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED NEXT SUMMER, AND THE MAIN LANES ON THE NORTHERN PORTION FROM NORTH OF WEST COLUMBIA TO THE COUNTY LINE, WE EXPECT TO BE COMPLETED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE FUTURE PROJECTS COMING TO THE AREA ON STATE HIGHWAY 288 FROM BUSINESS 288 TO FM 2004.
IN LAKE JACKSON, WE HAVE A PROJECT SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY OF 2027 FOR PAYMENT REPAIRS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IMPROVING THE CONDITIONS ON THE PAYMENT, INCLUDING THE RIDEABILITY OF OF THE HIGHWAY.
WE ALSO HAVE, ON 2027, SCHEDULED FOR JUNE.
THIS WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
YOU-ALL APPROVED TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR IMPROVING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ALONG VELASCO, BUSINESS 288, AND THAT PROJECT IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE OF 2027.
IT IS A $3.8 MILLION PROJECT THAT WILL ADD SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN RAMP, LIGHTING, SIGNALIZATION.
ALSO, WE HAVE THE OLD TXDOT FACILITY THAT IS BY 35 ON DOWNING.
WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR A TRANSPORTATION HUB.
CURRENTLY, THE PROJECT IS SCHEDULED FOR JULY, 2028, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE PARKING SPACES, VANPOOL SPACES, LANDSCAPING, SIDEWALK, TRUCK PARKING.
YOU DON'T WANT THE TRUCKS PARKING ON OUR STREET.
WE WANT TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE SO THEY CAN PARK AND THEY ARE NOT IMPEDING TRAFFIC AND MAKE IT SAFER AS WELL.
THEN ANOTHER BIG PROJECT THAT IS COMING, IT'S NOT COMING TO ANGLETON, BUT IT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY IS THE EXTENSION OF THE GRAND PARKWAY, SEGMENT B1 IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PROCURING A DESIGN CONTRACTOR BECAUSE IT IS DESIGN BILL.
WE SHOULD HAVE THEM ON BOARD IN 2026, AND WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO BE VISIBLE IN THE SPRING OF 2027.
>> YES. THAT PORTION WILL COME FROM I45 IN LAKE CITY ALL ACROSS NEW AREA UP TO ALVIN ON 35, IT WILL COME JUST SOUTH OF FM 528.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE THE GRAND PARKWAY CONSTRUCTION, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO AN OVERPASS ON ON STATE HIGHWAY 35 AND 528, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD, AS PART OF THE PROJECT, AN OVERPASS AT THAT LOCATION.
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WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, WE HAD SOME FUNDING TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS OF THE BYPASS ON STATE HIGHWAY 35, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE RECONSTRUCTING THE BYPASS, WHICH THEY BECOME THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF THE GRAND PARKWAY, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BECOME STATE HIGHWAY 35.ALL THAT IMPROVEMENT IS COMING STARTING IN THE SPRING OF 2027.
THOSE ARE THE MAJOR PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THAT AREA, BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE, YOU CAN ASK ME ANY QUESTION? ANY OTHER PROJECT YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW.
IF IT IS OUTSIDE OF BRAZORIA COUNTY, I MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEA, BUT I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH FOR YOU IF IT IS TXDOT-RELATED.
>> I'M GOING TO LET YOU GO FIRST. YOU'RE THE ONE THAT WANTED THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT TXDOT'S ONLINE REQUEST SYSTEM, LIKE WE HAVE A REPORTER CONCERN HERE IN THE CITY, THE TXDOT ONE IS SUPERIOR.
YOU ACTUALLY GET AN EMAIL BACK FROM PEOPLE.
THERE'S CORRESPONDENCE, HAS THEIR PHONE NUMBER ON IT.
KUDOS TO THAT GROUP IN HOUSTON AND IN AUSTIN.
IT'S A VERY ROBUST SYSTEM THAT IS REALLY GREAT.
EVERYTHING I'VE PUT IN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN CARE OF.
IF IT'S BEEN SLOW, AND I ASKED, WHAT'S THE DEAL, SOMEBODY REPLIES BACK.
ONE I HAVEN'T PUT IN RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S A SIGN MISSING AT WILKINS GOING EAST AT 274.
THE OVERHEAD SIGN THAT TELLS YOU WILKINS BUSINESS 288, THERE'S ONE OF THE HORIZONTAL HIGHWAY SIGNS MISSING UP ABOVE.
I'LL LET JOHN DO THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT.
THEN I JUST HAD ONE OTHER ONE.
I GUESS IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY OR SOMETHING.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND JOHN AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, WHEN THEY REPAVED THE HIGHWAY YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A CONCERN, AND IT'S MY REMEMBRANCE THAT IT WAS LOWERED TO 45 MILES AN HOUR FROM HENDERSON ROAD RIGHT AT [OVERLAPPING]
HENDERSON ROAD GOING NORTH TO TRACTOR SUPPLY.
TRACTOR SUPPLY, WHEN YOU'RE GOING NORTH ON THERE, THERE'S NO SHOULDER TO TURN RIGHT INTO THERE.
YOU'VE GOT CREDIT UNION BANK, CAR WASH, TRACTOR SUPPLY, AND THERE'S NO SHOULDER.
CAN THAT BE SOMETHING TO BE LOOKED AT TO REDUCE THAT TO 45 JUST TO THERE?
>> MICHELLE WAS VERY HELPFUL IN PROVIDING US SOME INFORMATION.
WE ALREADY KNEW THAT SOMEONE IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS INTERESTED.
WE SUBMITTED OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SECTION AT DISTRICT TO DO A SPEED STUDY.
ONE THING WITH SPEED STUDIES IS THAT ONCE THEY DO THE SPEED STUDY, IT MIGHT BE TO INCREASE THE SPEED OR TO DECREASE IT OR TO KEEP IT AS IT IS.
>> BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT IS THE OUTCOME, BUT ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT STUDY AND IT'S ANALYZED, WE'LL RECEIVE THAT STREET MILE ONCE IT GET APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
IF THERE IS A NEED TO CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT, WE WILL BE REPLACING THOSE SIGNS.
>> WILL IT BE NORTH AND SOUTH? BECAUSE COMING TO SOUTH, YOU GOT LA CASONA.
>> WE'RE STUDYING BOTH SIDES OF THE CORRIDOR [INAUDIBLE]
>> TIMING, IS THAT SOMETHING TAKES A WHILE?
>> SIX MONTHS CONSERVATIVELY, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS A LITTLE AMBITIOUSLY.
>> Y'ALL PUT THAT IN IN SOME TIME PERIOD, AND THEN THE CLOCK STARTS FROM THERE?
>> WE SUBMIT IT TO OUR TRAFFIC GEARING SECTION, EITHER WE DO IT IN-HOUSE.
OUR TEAM IN HOUSTON MIGHT DO IT IN-HOUSE, OR DEPENDING ON THEIR WORKLOAD, THEY MIGHT ASSIGN A CONSULTANT TO DO THE STUDY.
IT DEPENDS ON THE ADDITIONAL WORK THEY HAVE IN THE HOUSTON DISTRICT, WHERE OUR REQUEST FALLS.
THAT'S WHY IT IS UNCERTAIN RIGHT NOW THE TIME, BUT IT WILL BE BETWEEN THAT TIME FRAME APPROXIMATELY.
>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO MICHELLE.
>> I KNOW THERE WERE ALSO SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMING ON STATE HIGHWAY 35 AT DOWNING, STATE HIGHWAY 35 AT LOOP.
>> THE ONE I SEE THE MOST, AND I'VE SIT THROUGH IT EVERY DAY IS GOING FROM 35 HEADING INTO TOWN JUST BEFORE WE GET TO THE CITY HALL ANNEX AT 274.
THE LIGHT TO TURN NORTH ON 274, IT'S GREEN FOR MAYBE ALL OF ABOUT 10 SECONDS TO LET TWO CARS THROUGH, AND THEN IT GOES RED, AND THEN IT FLASHES YELLOW, BUT AT THAT TIME OF DAY, 5:30, SIX O'CLOCK,
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YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, GOING BACK TOWARDS WEST COLUMBIA AND VICE VERSA, AND THAT TURN LINE IS NOT LONG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THAT TRAFFIC.YOU GOT PEOPLE SWERVING IN THE OPPOSITE LANE TO STAY IN THE TURN LANE, AND YOU PROBABLY SIT THROUGH TWO OR THREE CYCLES JUST TO GET THROUGH THERE SAFELY.
>> THE PROBLEM IS THAT LIGHT WORKED REALLY FINE FOR A LONG TIME UNTIL SOMEBODY MESSED WITH THE TIMING ON IT.
WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS LEFT IT ALONE IN UNTIL IT TIMED OUT ON GREEN AND THEN JUST MADE IT FLASH YELLOW SO THAT IF NO ONE WAS COMING, YOU COULD STILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TURN.
>> WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT ALSO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SECTION TO COME AND REVIEW THEM.
IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE TIMING, THEY WILL ADJUST IT.
IF IT IS WITH THE DETECTION DEVICES THAT WE HAVE THERE, IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, THEY WILL REPLACE, OR IF THEY NEED TO DO ANY REPAIR, THEY WILL CHECK ON THOSE AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM OR YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY TO MY OFFICE.
I WOULD ASK YOU, SEND ME THE EMAIL, BUT IF YOU CAN SEND SOMEONE ELSE IN MY OFFICE TOO, THEY HELP ME SCAN.
I TRY TO GO BACK AND CHECK THEM.
I MISSED YOURS ON MAY, BUT I PASS IT TO MY MAIN SUPERVISOR, AND THEY WENT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT EXTRA PUB THAT WE HAD.
>> BEFORE YOU START, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE SPEED STUDY ON BUSINESS 288.
DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT THAT THEY WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION?
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU PASS SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE, WE WILL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
IF THERE IS AN ORDINANCE FROM THE CITY, WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
>> BECAUSE ONE THING I GET A LOT FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE, THERE'S TWO SUBDIVISIONS JUST SOUTH OF HENDERSON ON BOTH SIDES THAT YOU CAN TURN INTO.
THE HIGH SPEED COMING DOWN THROUGH THERE, IT SLOWS DOWN RIGHT WHERE THEIR INTERSECTIONS ARE, AND NO ONE SLOWS DOWN TO THE 45.
IF THAT WERE TO BE 45 IN FRONT OF TRACTOR SUPPLY, I THINK IT WOULD REALLY CUT DOWN ON THE SPEEDING PAST THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE SAFETY OF TURNING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TURN ON THE SHOULDER TO GET INTO ONE OF THEM.
>> WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION CITY ORDINANCES.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANT TO LOOK INTO, WE WILL WORK TOGETHER.
>> I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I KNOW THIS IS ON UPDATE ON TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
PREVIOUSLY, YOU'VE BEEN HERE, AND I RAISED THE QUESTION ABOUT A SIDEWALK ALONG 35 IN THE SAME VEIN OF WAY WEST COLUMBIA HAS IT.
STILL ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHERE THERE'S A PARK AND THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS, ACTUALLY.
THERE'S THE WESTSIDE JUNIOR HIGH OR I GUESS ELEMENTARY, AND THEN CATS ACADEMY.
HOW DO WE GO ABOUT PUTTING ON OURSELF IN POSITION TO HAVEN'T YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A SAFETY PROGRAM.
IT IS TYPICALLY BY THE END OF NOVEMBER OR BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS ALSO ABLE TO APPLY AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, WHAT ARE THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
MAYBE WE WANT TO WRITE IT ON OUR LIST AND SEE IF WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
MAYBE WE COULD BE ABLE TO WORK A FEW SHORTER SEGMENTS, AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, WE KEEP CONNECTING SOME SEGMENTS OF THE SIDEWALK.
THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY ABOUT EVERY OTHER YEAR EVERY TWO YEARS.
TEXT IS NOT TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE, IS AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM CODE THAT IS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR STAKEHOLDERS TO APPLY, AND YOU CAN APPLY ON TEXT RIGHT OF WAY OR ON YOUR LOCAL STREET, AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER LIKE WE DID ON THE SIDEWALK ON VELASCO TO GET SOME GRANTS TO DO THAT.
BUT THE FIRST ONE WE CAN START LOOKING IS THE SAFETY PROGRAM CALLED THAT IS LATER THIS PHONE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT MAYBE NOT THE WHOLE CORRIDOR,
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BUT SOME SECTION MIGHT QUALIFY, AND WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT ALSO CAN APPLY TO THOSE.
>> GREAT. MY SECOND QUESTION SO BE IT FOR ME.
SO NORTH OF US IN, I GUESS IOWA COLONY, THERE'S MARINI ON A PARKWAY.
THEN THERE'S AN OVERPASS, CORRECT? IS THAT CONSTRUCTED BY TEXTO?
I MANAGED THE CONSTRUCTION BY TEXT.
THE ORIGINAL OVERPASS NOW WE'RE WIDENING, AND WE TEXT THE FUNDING.
>> THE WIDEN WITH TEXTILE FUNDING?
>> IT IS. WIDE WITH TEXTILE FUNDING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE ORIGINAL OVERPASS WAS WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I KNOW THE CURRENT OVERPASS THAT WE'RE BUILDING THE ONE WE'RE WIDENING MARDIANA.
WE'RE WIDENING WE ARE DOING A NORTH ONE ON CEDAR RAPID AND ON THE DEVEN PORT; WE ARE DOING WITH TEXA.
>> MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE IF YOU HAD OUT COUNTY ROAD 44 HERE IN ANGLETON.
I LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ENGINEERED TO HAVE WHAT MERIDIAN IS ALREADY DOING AND GETTING ANOTHER TWO-WAY.
WHEN CAN ANGLETON GET THE SAME? YOU JUST SAID YOU'RE DOING IT WITH TEXT FUNDS.
YOU'RE WIDE IT WITH TEXT FUNDS.
WHY IS EVERYBODY ELSE GET AN EXPANSION? WE'RE ESTABLISHED CITY? WE HAVE PROBABLY MORE PEOPLE IN ANGLETON THAN THEY HAVE ALL OF MERONA, BUT THEY HAVE FOUR LANES.
AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THAT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT BEING DEVELOPED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 288, WHICH WILL SIT BETWEEN 288 AND COUNTY ROAD OR 521.
A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE IN 521 WILL THEN COME DOWN THE COUNTY ROAD 44 OVER THAT OVERPASS, AND THEY COMMUTE INTO THE CITY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A HUGE BOTTLENECK RIGHT THERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE RANK IN PRIORITY IF MARIANA HASN'T EVEN BEEN BUILT OUT, AND THEY'RE GETTING A FOUR-WAY TO ONE DIRECTION TO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
ANGLETON HAS BEEN AROUND FOR I DON'T KNOW, 100 SOME YEARS, AND WE CAN JUST GIVE TO GET OUR 12 LANE.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET? THE ADD-ON, THE EXTINCTION.
>> TEXTO HAVE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE HOUSTON GOVERN TT AREA COUNCIL TO SELECT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF FUNDING TO SELECT MULTIPLE PROJECTS.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR ADVANCED PROJECT DEVELOPMENT SECTION HAVE SELECTED TO DO A STUDY ON BRAZORIA COUNTY ON THE STATE RIGHT OF WAY, AND LOOKING AT MULTIPLE CORRIDORS AND SEE HOW THE GROWTH IS GOING AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO KEEP EXPANDING.
I'M GOING TO SEND THEM A TO LOOK INTO STATE HIGHWAY 288 AND HENDERSON COUNTY ROAD 44, TO LOOK WHAT IS THE CONDITION.
RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT PROGRAM, BUT WE CAN LOOK WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE IF THE TRAFFIC COUNT IS THERE AND THE CHANGES.
>> WE HAVE THE CITY, NOT THE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THERE'S THAT SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TWO SCHOOLS OUT THERE, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ELEMENTARY AND A JUNIOR HIGH.
SO I'M IMAGINING THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC FLOW ALSO CONTINUING OUT AND OVER THAT, WHETHER IT'S ISD BUSES OR TRANSPORTATION OR PEOPLE COMMUTING TO GET BECAUSE JUST INSIDE THAT, I KNOW WHAT THEY CALL HERITAGE OAKS, THE KIDS THAT LIVE THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE BUSED OUT THERE ACROSS TWO ADH.
ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AND SOMETHING SOONER THAN LATER.
>> MAYOR PRO-TEM GOT ME ON THAT ONE.
I WAS READY TO ASK ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF ROOT 44.
THOSE TWO NEW SCHOOLS OPEN THIS FALL.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT NEW SUBDIVISION ALREADY STARTING TO BUILD HOMES AND DEVELOP IN THERE.
>> I WILL SAY THAT 523 AND 44 HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YEARS.
I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A FATALITY TRAFFIC ACCIDENT THERE.
>> BECAUSE IT'S ONLY BLINKING ON ONE SIDE, SO IT GOES THROUGH TRAFFIC FOR 523, STOPPING STOP LIGHT, BLINKING LIGHT AT THE 44 SIDE.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT, AND THEY GO THROUGH IT THINKING MOST ALL FOUR SIDES ARE GOING TO STOP.MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY ARE AROUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF TEXT IN ITS CURRENT FORM FOR US AS A CITY.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE LIGHTS LATELY SINCE THE BLINKING YELLOWS.
I THINK THE PUBLIC IS FINALLY ADJUSTING TO THE BLINKING YELLOWS, BUT THE TIMING STILL IS NOT RIGHT IN SOME SPOTS.
JUST LAST WEEK, I THINK FOR A WEEK, ONE OF THE LIGHTS IS JUST BLINKING RED FOR THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION, I GUESS TO COUNCIL.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL ARE DOING SOMETIMES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON FOR THAT LIGHT BLINKING FOR AS LONG AS IT WAS, WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT IS THERE REGULAR MAINTENANCE BEING DONE ON OUR LIGHTS? ARE WE STAYING AHEAD OF THE CURVE? I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MORE REACTIONARY HERE LATELY THAN WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE TO FIXING ISSUES.
I CAN TELL YOU 288 IS GETTING TORN UP OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW NORTH OF 521 ON 288.
THEY CAME THROUGH AND THEY PUT THE ASPHALT DOWN OVER THE TOP OF THE CONCRETE FOR THE MOST PART.
THAT'S REALLY MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IT'S REALLY HELPED IMPROVE THE ROAD.
BUT GOING BACK TOWARDS LAKE JACKSON, THAT ROAD IS WITH ALL THE ADDED TRAFFIC.
IT'S JUST IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE DOING MAINTENANCE ON IT AND PATCHING IT HERE AND THERE, BUT IT'S A PRETTY BUMPY RIDE NOW.
YOU CAN WATCH THE 18-WHEELERS MOVE OVER TO THE LEFT LANE NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE EITHER.
I THINK THAT IMPEDES A LITTLE BIT OF THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT TEXT CAN GET MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY WITH FIXING THE ROADS WITH OVERLAY.
>> IT'S FEBRUARY OF 2027, AND IT'S 2020 $7,000,000 THAT WE HAVE ALLOTTED FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
>> THERE'S NO WAY OF BRINGING THAT UP ANY FASTER? I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT HOW THE CONDITION OF THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE BY THE YEAR 2027, JUST IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT WAS LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO A SPEED STUDY ON 35 BETWEEN 288 AND LOOP 274, BECAUSE YOU CAME TO US WITH A REQUEST TO CHANGE SPEED LIMITS, AND WE ASKED YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE SPEED STUDY, BUT WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK ON THAT.
>> WE DID THE SPEED STUDY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
THE OVERLAY PROJECT WE HAD THERE.
THE SPEED LIMIT THAT WE HAVE THERE IS THE RESULT OF THE SPEED STUDY.
>> KEEP IT THE SAME. THEN ONCE AGAIN, I GOT TO REQUEST, AND THIS HAS GOT TO BE SOMETHING WE REALLY WORK ON HARD IS A LIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ON 35 COMING INTO TOWN, WHERE THE LAKINA IS THAT INTERSECTION.
WE'VE GOT TO CONTROL, AND IT'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH FOR THAT INTERSECTION AS IT IS.
WE'RE CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC AT THE BUCKEYES AND THAT LIGHT AT 35 AND 288.
WE'VE REALLY GOT TO THROTTLE THE TRAFFIC AT THAT POINT, BRINGING THEM INTO TOWN, GIVING PEOPLE SAFE TIME TO GET ACROSS AND FIND WAYS AND AVENUES TO GET SAFELY ACROSS.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION.
>> THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING AT THAT INTERSECTION.
>> BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US PUT A LIGHT UP AT THE LAKINA.
WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY.
LOOKING AT THAT CONDITION. DO YOU REMEMBER?
>> DO NOT MEET WARRANT AT THAT LOCATION AT C 028.
THEY'RE SPEAKING OF THE SPEED OF THE SAFETY HALL COMING UP.
THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT RIGHT NOW ARE REQUIREMENTS DOES NOT MEET WARRANT FOR A SIGNAL, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WE CAN ADD TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT'S NOT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THAT LET'S SAY QUARTER MILES.
>> IN ORDER TO ADD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WE HAVE TO DO A STUDY, AND THE STUDY NEED TO SHOW THAT A SIGNAL IS WARRANTED.
HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME CONCERNS AT THAT LOCATION, AND WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE WITH COUNTY ROAD 28 AND STA 35.
>> THE RESULTS OF THAT, WHY I DIDN'T MEET, AND WARRANT.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE THAT WE HAVE TO MEET. I KNOW IN THE FUTURE.
>> IT IS, BUT IT'S JUST THE SHEER VOLUME COMING THROUGH THERE AND PEOPLE TRYING TO PLAY FRAUD OR COMING FROM OAKWOOD CREEK ACROSS AND FROM BUCKEYES ACROSS.
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IT'S A NIGHTMARE, ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE, CHIEF.A LOT. THAT TO ME WARRANTS IT.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS.
>> BEHIND LAKON, THERE ARE ABOUT TO BE 300 NEW HOMES IN THERE.
>> ONCE AGAIN, BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.
>> WITH THAT, IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THAT AREA.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND WHEN YOU MEET WITH DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO IMPACT THE TRAFFIC IN TEXTO, THEY NEED TO COME TO TEXTO BRING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND WE WORK WITH THEM TO ADD AN IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL BE THE RESULT OF THAT IMPROVEMENT LIKE WE DID WITH THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
THE SIGNAL LIGHTS ARE BEING INSTALLED BY THE NEAR AND THE JUNIOR HIGH ARE THROUGH THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT.
>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS MY LAST ONE.
APPARENTLY, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL LIGHT WAS NOT WARRANTED BY TEXTILE STANDARDS, ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER.
WE PUT THE TWO LIGHTS IN WHERE THE SCHOOL'S GOING OVER THERE, BUT THERE'S NO TRAFFIC CONTROL AT 44 AND 521, WHERE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE COMING AND GOING FROM. THAT CONCERNS ME.
>> I BELIEVE MR. PETERSON HAD SOMETHING HE WANTED TO SAY TO.
>> THROUGH YOUR QUESTIONS. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REAL QUICK.
>> ABSOLUTELY. BUT YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PODIUM.
>> I HAVE ONE MORE. TELL ME AGAIN THAT THE OLD TEXTO FACILITY IN ANGLETON.
THE DATE ON REFURBISHING THAT?
>> THAT ONE THAT PROJECT IS SO FOR JULY OF 2028, I'M SORRY.
WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SUBDIVISION THERE.
IT'S BEEN RADDY, TADDY FOR EVER SINCE YOU ALL MOVED OUT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY NOW.
IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT A BIG PARKING LOT, YOU CAN'T TEAR DOWN THE OLD BUILDINGS NOW.
>> THIS IS FUNDING IS THROUGH A GRANT.
SO THAT GRANT WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
IT'S A NO-TRANSPORTATION TYPE OF GRANT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNSEL. JUST WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING MARIA FOR ALL THE HELP.
SHE AND HER STAFF ARE REALLY AN ASSET TO THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF PERMITTING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY, THEY MEET WITH US.
QUESTIONS, WE COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
TELL YOUR STAFF THE GRATITUDE WE HAVE. SO THANK YOU.
>> WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING A GOOD SPORT AND COMING HERE AND TAKING QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SUBTLE COMPLAINTS.
>> WE WANT YOU BACK AGAIN A FACEBOOK.
>> COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE IS ON THE 288 DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK PROJECT.
>> JOHN, CAN YOU REVOICE UP? JUST REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AT HOME.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER NOW?
>> YES. ON THE 288 DOWNTOWN PROJECT WITH THE SIDEWALK PROJECT, THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE FINANCIALS OF GETTING THE DESIGN ENGINEER CONTRACT THAT BEEN RESOLVED?
>> I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED BY A DESIGN DIVISION IN.
I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT THE CONTRACT IS IN PLACE, BUT THE PROJECT IS SCHEDULED FOR 2027, SO WE STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AND NOT THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE COMING.
>> AWESOME. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT WHAT WAS A PRELIMINARY SET OF PLANS.
THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THEM WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE PRELIMINARY ONES AGAIN BEFORE MOVING OUT.
I THINK COUNSEL THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY COUNSEL IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THEY COMMIT THE 1.6 FOR THE UTILITIES AND STUFF, THAT IT IS GOING TO BE IN WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURED EVERYTHING IN THOSE SETS.
>> CAN WE BUMP THE GAIN ON THAT MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT?
>> GOOD. WE HAVE TO COME CLOSE.
[LAUGHTER] WE WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE UTILITY.
WE ALREADY APPROVED YOUR PLAN FOR THE UTILITY RELOCATION.
WE DID SOME EXCEPTIONS AND SOME WAIVERS, SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO USE THE FUND THAT WAS ALLOTED THROUGH THAT GRANT THAT IS A PROJECT READY.
IT TAKES THE COMPROMISE THAT IS THERE, WE'RE ADVERTISING IT.
IT IS IN OUR FUNDED PROJECT, SO IT SHOULD BE HAPPENING BY THAT TIME.
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>> I'LL KEEP IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT THE 30%.
THE LAST ONE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS CITY HAS DONE A STUDY SEVERAL YEARS AGO ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THE DRAINAGE, TO HELP DRAIN 35, HELP DRAIN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AREA.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE IMPROVEMENTS, WE IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL DETENTION REQUIREMENTS, THE LOCATIONS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING BACK AND FORTH.
IS ANYTHING PROCEEDED ON THAT? I KNOW THE COUNTY IS LOOKING TO DO SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THERE IF THEY HAD A OUTFALL TO WHERE WE COULD REALLY EFFECTIVELY CHANGE THAT COMMUNITY DOWN THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIDEWALK PROJECT.
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO JUST BRING THAT BACK UP TO DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
>> CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT SCHEDULE.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, OUR ADVANCED PROJECT DEVELOPMENT IS DOING A BIG STORY ON BRAZORIA, AND WE BROUGHT UP THIS LOCATION.
THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING THE LOCATION.
WE SHOULD BE HAVING MEETINGS IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO THIS CASE MORE IN DEPTH.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO STATE HIGHWAY 35.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, 1462 NORTH OF HERE.
THAT IS A MAJOR CORRIDOR NOW THAT CONNECTING 36 AND AN ALBUM WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PARKWAY.
WE ARE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, BUT STATE HIGHWAY 35 IS ONE OF THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> ANYTIME WE GET A HEAVY RAIN RIGHT THERE AT THOSE INTERSECTION CAME TOP OF THE CURVE.
IT'S PUSHING A LOT OF WATER BACK INTO WORK A LOT OF MONEY DOWN. [NOISE] THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT, AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXDOC.
I WOULD JUST ASK IF WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE ON MAINTENANCE OF LIGHTS, MAKING SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE IS CORRECT AND THAT WE KEEP THE COMMUNICATION GOING.
I SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE WE DON'T COMMUNICATE WELL ENOUGH BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT MAJOR? WITH OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE COUNTY, WE HAVE SCHEDULED REGULAR MEETINGS, QUARTERLY MEETINGS OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, INTERNAL MEETINGS.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN SCHEDULE.
WE DISCUSS PERMITS, WE DISCUSS PROJECTS, THAT WAY WHEN A DEVELOPER COME WE ALL ON THE SAME AGREEMENT PRIOR TO GOING WITH A DEVELOPMENT.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INTERESTS, WE CAN SCHEDULE SOMETHING TO MEET REGULARLY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
IT HAS HELPED WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL, AND WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE JUST DOWN THE STREET, SO IT SHOULD BE EASIER.
>> WE SHOULD HAVE THE NICEST TEXT DOT AREA AROUND.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SAY WHEN I PASS THAT BUILDING.
>> LET'S SCHEDULE, I'LL REACH OUT.
WHO DO YOU PREFER ME TO REACH OUT TO?
>> REACH OUT TO [INAUDIBLE] FIRST.
[LAUGHTER] HE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM THERE.
>> THEN WITH THE SIGNALS, WE COME WITH OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL SECTION.
THEY COVER THE WHOLE DISTRICT, WHICH IS SEVEN COUNTIES.
IF IT IS OUTSIDE WORKING HOURS, TYPICALLY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT KNOW THEY CAN CONTACT TRANSTAR.
PERFECT. THANK YOU. THEY WILL MAKE SURE WE PASS THE INFORMATION.
EVERY TIME WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT A SIGNAL, WE PASS IT TO OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL SECTION AND THEY PUT IT ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
BUT ALSO OUTSIDE WORKING HOURS, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH A SIGNAL, TRANSTAR WILL BE THE PHONE NUMBER TO CALL BECAUSE THEY ARE 24/7 AND THEY WILL NOT DEFY THE PERSON WHO IS ON CALL TO ADDRESS THEM.
THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THE FASTEST WAY.
>> WE WILL WORK TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICE ON [INAUDIBLE].
>> ANYBODY ELSE? NO. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
>> ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST TO RECONSIDER
[3. Discussion and possible action on a request to reconsider the 6/10/2025 Action taken on a Final Plat extension for Mulberry Fields Subdivision, for 41 single-family lots, 2 reserves, City Council - July 22, 2025 P a g e | 2 3 blocks on 13.0044 acres, located on SH 35 and N. Walker St., East of Heritage Ln./Murray Ranch Rd.]
THE 610-2025 ACTION TAKEN ON A FINAL PLAT EXTENSION FROM MULBERRY FIELD SUBDIVISION, 41 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, TWO RESERVES, THREE BLOCKS ON 13.344 ACRES, LOCATED ON STATE HIGHWAY 35 AND NORTH WALKER STREET EAST OF HERITAGE LANE, MURRAY RANCH ROAD. ALICE.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE DEVELOPER COREY BARRIER,
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WHO IS THE DEVELOPER FOR MULBERRY FIELD SUBDIVISION, IN WHICH ON JUNE 10, YOU DID DENY HIS REQUEST TO EXTEND THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE SUBDIVISION DUE TO TIMELINESS OF THE START OF CONSTRUCTION.HE HAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED ADDITIONAL PROPERTY ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
HE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK TO YOU FOR RECONSIDERATION WITH THE NEW INFORMATION, AND ALSO WITH OTHER MIX USE OPPORTUNITIES IN WHICH HE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BEFORE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
I WILL STATE THAT HE DID MEET WITH ME AND THE MAYOR CONCERNING HIS REQUEST THIS EVENING, AND WE BROUGHT IT TO LEGAL TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN AN APPROPRIATE MANNER.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND MR. BOYER IS HERE TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR.
I AGAIN, GRACIOUSLY, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVING ME BACK UP HERE.
I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND THE JUNE 10 MEETING.
IT WAS MY FOUR-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY, AND I PUT FAMILY BEFORE THIS MEETING, AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING PRESENT.
I WANTED YOU ALL TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER THIS AS WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED SINCE OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED OFF AND AGREED TO.
I WAS ABLE TO SECURE THIS COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE HAD PLANNED THE 41 HOMES THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED.
IT WAS THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER FOR OUR 13 ACRES THERE IN THE BACK, BUT SHE FINALLY RELENTED TO MY REQUEST.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE WHOLE AREA AS NOT ONLY WILL IT HELP THE VIABILITY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL PIECE, BUT ALSO CLEANING UP THAT FRONTAGE IS, I KNOW, A HUGE PUSH FOR THE CITY AS IT'S A GIANT IS SORE.
FOR US, I DO BELIEVE THAT BRINGING IN RETAIL THERE, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE IMAGES OF WHAT WE'RE INITIALLY LOOKING AT PLACING THERE.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG BENEFIT.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS FROM OUR CONVERSATION, NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE IT MORE VIABLE FOR US WHENEVER WE CAN SHARE THE COST BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE MUCH MORE FINANCIAL INTEREST IN IT.
I'M HERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THIS.
THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK LIGHTLY.
I HAD BROUGHT BEFORE THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO ACQUIRE IT.
APPARENTLY, THAT WASN'T CONVEYED TO COUNCIL.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY.
QUITE HONESTLY, 2024 WAS REALLY ROUGH FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
BY ADDING THIS COMMERCIAL PIECE, I FEEL LIKE IT BENEFITS BOTH THE CITY OF ANGLETON, BUT IT ALSO HELPS IMPROVE THE FINANCIAL ABILITY FOR US TO DELIVER OUR SITE THERE IN THE BACK.
>> WILL THIS PROPOSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AFFECT WHAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED AS FAR AS EGRESS FROM THE 13-ACRE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU HAD?
>> IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT IT BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] WE ALREADY HAD THAT IN THE RIGHT AWAY.
BUT THE COMMERCIAL BEING THERE, IT DRASTICALLY IMPROVES THE VISIBILITY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY PUSHED FAR BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE STARTED IN CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THAT WE CAN TRULY PUSH THE COMMERCIAL.
WE'VE GOT TO SHOW THE ROOFTOPS AND THAT WE'RE GOING.
BUT YOU HAVE THE SURVEY THERE.
THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN SEE ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES THERE IN THE FRONT THAT'S DIRECTLY ON MULBERRY.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY ACQUIRE FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPERTY HOLDER.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
>> MR. BOYER, TWO THINGS I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU AND I SPOKE,
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AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS PERTINENT TO COME BACK FOR RECONSIDERATION IS ONE, OUR CONCERN WAS THE WATER AND TYING UP WATER RIGHTS FOR ANOTHER YEAR TO A SUBDIVISION THAT'S NOT GOING TO MOVE.BUT YOU CAME BACK AND YOU ASSURED AND SAID, NO, I'M READY TO MOVE.
WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT WITH YOU THAT'S SIGNED.
TO ME, I FELT THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT DA WAS THERE.
HE'S GOING TO BE MOVING DIRT IN THIS YEAR.
I THINK YOU SAID IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, RIGHT?
>> THAT TO ME WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN YOU WEREN'T HERE TO EXPLAIN TO US.
THEN TO TELL US ABOUT THIS COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY ON THE FRONT SIDE.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND OTIS, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT IS IT?
>> BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN TO ME ONLY BECAUSE A GAS STATION CAN GO THERE, TOO AT THIS POINT.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY STRINGENT UPON WHAT GOES THERE AS IT BECOMES VIABLE TO YOUR SUBDIVISION, BUT IT ALSO IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE TO THE CITY FROM A 35 QUARTER STANDPOINT.
YOU ALREADY KNOW MY FEELINGS ON THE TRAFFIC OVER THERE.
THAT'S WHY YOU STILL HAVE THE RIGHT IN COMING WESTBOUND, YOU HAVE TO GO RIGHT IN.
THERE'S NO TURN OUT OR COMING IN FROM THE EAST.
>> THIS IS ONE WAY THAT I WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE THERE IS TRAFFIC CONCERNS THERE THAT WE ABSOLUTELY DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, AND WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A PROBLEM ON TOP OF A PROBLEM.
THAT'S ONE. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT IN THE PAST WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS ONE THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD FIT.
I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU ALL NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION RIGHT THERE.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, AND I AM AGAIN, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SOMETHING LONG TERM.
SUCCESSFUL FOR NOT ONLY OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
>> THAT COMMERCIAL AREA IS NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, AND NOT PART OF THE LOTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN CONSIDERATION HERE.
BUT YOU DO MEET YOUR 60 FOOT LOT MINIMUM.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR RESERVE ACRES BECAUSE AS COMMERCIAL, WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT IT, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.
YOU STILL HAVE THE SQUARE ACRE FEET OF RETENTION AVAILABLE IF YOU DEVELOP THIS IN YOUR PLAN BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO USE THAT.
>> OUR ENGINEERS HAVE ONLY DONE A PRELIMINARY, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE NEED TO WITH THAT EXISTING RESERVE ACREAGE.
WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME MINOR UNDERGROUND OR SOME RELATIVELY SPEAKING, SMALL ADDITIONAL RESERVE FOR THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE.
BUT UNTIL THAT WE GET A FINAL DESIGN AND WE GET EVERYTHING REALLY LOCKED DOWN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW 100%, BUT WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY WILL BE ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED WITH OUR CURRENT RESERVE ACREAGE.
>> WHAT ARE THE WIDTHS OF YOUR ROADS?
>> THEY'RE ALL WHAT WE HAD PUT IN THERE.
I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
>> IT'S ALL 28. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING, QUITE HONESTLY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE DIDN'T PUSH FOR ANY VARIANCE.
ALL OF OURS ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 6.3.
WE'VE GOT A SUBSTANTIAL VARIETY OF LOT SIZES EVEN WITH IT ONLY BEING 41 LOTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE TWO POINTS OF EGRESS.
IT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU GUYS REQUEST.
>> THEY FOLLOW THE SETBACK STANDARDS THAT WERE PASSED AS WELL?
>> HE WOULD HAVE PREDATED THE NEW STANDARD THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO [INAUDIBLE]
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>> WELL, IT WAS DENIED. IT SOMEHOW RECIRCULATED ITSELF.
>> QUESTION SINCE IT WAS DENIED, NOW WE GET INTO THE BATTLE OF THE LEGAL FORMS, THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT VERSUS THE PLAT.
THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT HAD ALL THE STIPULATIONS OF THE LOT SIZES AND EVERYTHING IN IT.
BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DENY THE EXTENSION ON THE PLAT, THE PLAT STILL ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE UNTIL WHEN OCTOBER.
>> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT DATE WAS, I THINK, OCTOBER OF 2023, EXCUSE ME.
HIS PLAT WOULD SATISFY AS IT WAS APPROVED BACK THEN.
>> YOUR DECISION TONIGHT IS FOR RECONSIDERATION OF WHAT YOU DID ON JUNE 10TH.
>> BASED ON THE NEW INFORMATION.
LEGALLY, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO LEGAL WHAT THAT MEANS TECHNICALLY.
>> YOU'RE ASKING US TO REVOTE WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PROVIDED ABOUT THE FRONT A ROAD. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?
>> PUT IT IN REVERSE, THEN GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE ON JUNE 10TH, WITH THE NEW INFORMATION AND RECONSIDER WHAT YOU DID BASED ON THE NEW INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.
>> YOU'RE RECONSIDERING JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT YOU DID IN JUNE, AND VESTING SAYS FOLLOWING THE FIRST PIECE OF PAPER CAN BE AS LITTLE AS A GENERAL PLAT VEST THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE LAW AS IT WAS IN ON THAT DATE.
NOW, IF IT'S A NEW SECTION OR YOU CAN HAVE AN ARGUMENT THERE, BUT I'M NOT SEEING THE FACTS HERE.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T CHANGE OR RECONSIDER OUR VOTE.
>> I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THEY HAVE ACHIEVED CONSTRUCTION APPROVAL.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CROSS ALL THE TS AND DOT ALL OF THE S OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHERE HE PAYS ALL OF HIS FEES, ANY TYPE OF PERFORMANCE BONDS, AND HE'S READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ON THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
>> MAYOR PRO-TEM TOWNSEND, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST SPOT TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT YOU'RE AFTER.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE FURTHER SETBACK?
>> I JUST LIKE TO SEE OUR STANDARDS APPLIED.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE HAD A PLAT.
THEY DIDN'T EXECUTE IT IN TIMELY FASHION.
THE CLOCK RAN. I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S FINANCIAL CHALLENGES TO 2024.
NOW WE'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL SHOPPING. I GUESS.
>> THAT'S GOT TO COME BACK TO US, CORRECT DAVIS.
>> DOESN'T THAT STUFF TO COME BACK TO US? THE COMMERCIALS?
>> THE COMMERCIAL WOULD NOT COME BEFORE YOU, THAT'S JUST A TYPICAL PERMIT.
THEY WILL HAVE TO SATISFY ANY TYPE OF REFERRAL AGENCY SUCH AS THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, ANY TYPE OF ACCESS WOULDN'T GET A THROUGH THE HE WOULD DO PLATTING, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A MINOR PLAT DUE TO IT BEING ONE LOT.
IN THE CASE OF THE PLAT BECOMING STILL AND IT GETS DENIED, HE WOULD JUST BE GOING BACK THROUGH THE PLATTING PROCESS.
YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME LAYOUT RIGHT BACK BEFORE YOU TECHNICALLY.
>> OTIS, WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHAT WOULD HE HAVE TO DO DIFFERENT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS?
>> THAT WOULD PROBABLY IF IN MY GUESS, WOULD DECREASE THE LOT TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, THE DEATH OF THE LOTS WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE NEW STANDARDS.
THE 60 FEET WOULDN'T BE AS MUCH OF A CHALLENGE BY THINK IN THIS INSTANCE, YOUR LAT DEATH WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE.
YOU MAY END UP WITH A FRACTION OF THE LATS.
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THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD ACHIEVE WITH YOUR NEW STANDARDS.BUT THEY WOULD STILL PUT IN SIDEWALKS, TYPICALLY IN ANY SUBDIVISION.
HE HAS NO WAIVERS OR VARIANCES OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
>> THE STREET WIDTH IS STILL THE SAME?
>> THOSE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME UNLESS AS I STATED, IF YOU IMPOSE THOSE NEW STANDARDS, THEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH NEW SETBACKS AND HE'LL END UP PROBABLY LOSING A NUMBER OF BLOCKS.
>> THE ISSUE IS THE SETBACKS. THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE?
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MAJOR CHALLENGE IN WHAT THE QUESTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
>> MAYOR. WHEN COUNSEL IS FACED WITH A DISCRETIONARY VOTE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO EXTEND HIS FLAT AS YOU DENIED IT ONE TIME BEFORE.
I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PUT THIS DIPLOMATICALLY.
WHILE THEY MAY BE VESTED UNDER THE OLD RULES, IF THEY WANT SOMETHING COUNSEL DON'T HAVE TO GRANT, THEN THEY NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT.
>> ALSO, AT THIS POINT, COUNSEL CAN APPROVE AN EXTENSION OR THEY CAN JUST TAKE NO ACTION, RIGHT?
>> WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE TO DISAPPROVE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN THAT ACTION?
>> THE CHANGE IN SETBACKS WOULD BE FROM WHAT TO WHAT?
>> I'LL HAVE TO PULL UP THE CODE AND NOT TO APOLOGIZE.
WHAT WE DID, IF YOU RECALL, MOST OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTIONS, WE INCREASED THE SETBACK FROM 25-35 FEET IN SOME INSTANCES TO INCREASE DRIVEWAY DEPTH SO THAT CARS WOULD NOT BE PARKED ON THE ROAD.
I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR CHALLENGE HERE.
IN SOME INSTANCES, WE MAY HAVE INCREASE THE REAR YARD IN SOME OF THE DISTRICTS.
>> BUT IF WE HAD THE SIDE YARDS WERE A LITTLE.
>> SIDE YARDS WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE AFFECTED HERE BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY END UP WITH FIVE OR 10 FEET ON SIDE OF THESE HOMES WITH 60 FOOT LATS WITH THE PRODUCT THAT HE'S PROBABLY PROPOSING.
BUT HE COULD GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
NOW I HAVE IT HERE. I DO APOLOGIZE.
IN THE 7.2, WE INCREASED IT TO 35 FEET, AND IN 6.3, WE INCREASED THE FRONT YARD TO 35 FEET ALSO.
>> WHAT'S HE AT NOW? TWENTY FIVE?
>> HE SHOULD BE AT THE 25 FEET REQUIREMENT.
YOUR SIDE YARDS, IF YOU RECALL, WE FIVE FOOT FIVE AND 10 AND NOW THEY'VE BEEN INCREASED TO 10?
>> HE COULD BE FORCED TO ADHERE TO THE 10 FOOT.
MR. CORRY CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU IF HE CAN ACHIEVE THAT WITH THIS PROPOSED PRODUCT, BUT I THINK THE DEPTH WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE.
>> THE DEPTH DIDN'T CHANGE THAT, DID IT?
>> HIS DEPTH IS LESS THAN 100 FEET ALMOST.
>> NOT THE DEPTH OF THE LOT, BUT HIS LOTS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO ZOOM INTO ONE OF THOSE LOTS TO SEE WHAT THE SMALLEST DEPTH IS, BUT I THINK IT MAY BE A CHALLENGE.
THE REAR YARD ENDED UP BEING 25 FEET.
>> IF IT'S 35 IN THE FRONT, 25 IN THE BACK, THAT'S 60 FEET, AND MOST OF THESE LOTS ARE ABOUT 95 FEET, SO YOUR HOUSE CAN MAYBE BE 25 FEET IN DEPTH.
>> BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THIS TRACK.
WE DO HAVE A HANDFUL THAT ARE IN THE 90S.
BUT YEAH, IF WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS, IT WILL NOT ONLY RESULT IN KILLING OF THIS SUBDIVISION, ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THE PERSONAL LOSS OF OVER $300,000 PLUS MY INVESTORS,
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WHICH WOULD SEEM LIKE AN EPIC WASTE CONSIDERING WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS TO DO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND TO GET EVERYTHING LITERALLY SHOVEL READY.IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY JUST DESTROY THE WHOLE PROJECT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST 3.5 YEARS.
>> HOW LONG WERE YOU GIVEN TIME TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PLAT?
>> WE WERE GIVEN, EFFECTIVELY, LIKE, A YEAR, BUT WE HAD OUR DEVELOPMENT.
>> IS THAT A STANDARD MOST CITIES YOU DEAL WITH THEY GIVE YOU A YEAR.
>> WE TYPICALLY DON'T GO THE FINAL PLAT ROUT.
WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET GOING.
BUT LIKE I SAID, 2024 WAS NOT A STANDARD YEAR.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR A PLAT EXTENSION IS NOT FOR AN EXTENSION IN PERPETUITY.
WHENEVER I SAY SIX MONTHS, I MEAN, SIX MONTHS.
>> BUT SEEMS LIKE WE FOLLOWED STANDARD PROCEDURES.
WE WEREN'T TRYING TO SOMEHOW SQUEEZE YOU OUT OF YOUR MONEY.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOU LOSE YOUR MONEY.
WE FOLLOWED WHAT IS BASICALLY A STANDARD AGREEMENT.
THEN THE ACTION THAT WASN'T TAKEN WASN'T OUR LACK OF ACTION.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT PERCEPTION, BUT WHENEVER MOST DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BUILDERS IN TOW, WE HAD LANAR THAT WAS GOING TO BUILD THERE, AND THEY BACKED OUT.
YOU ALL KNOW THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE WITH LANAR.
WITH BANKS THAT TYPICALLY REQUIRE A MAJOR BUILDER IN TOW TO PUT UP CONSTRUCTION FINANCING.
IN 2024, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE.
THAT ABSOLUTELY SHUT DOWN FINANCING.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERCEPTION, BUT IT'S NOT ONE PIECE THAT THE BANKS OR BREAKS A DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHY I'M HUMBLY ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S LITERALLY JUST A SIX MONTH EXTENSION ON ALL THE AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE TO THIS POINT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN. YOU HEARD OUR ATTORNEY SPEAK.
HIS ADVICE TO US WAS, TO GET SOME, YOU GIVE SOME.
WHAT ARE YOU PREPARING TO GIVE?
>> I THINK THAT'S WHY I CAME TO YOU ALL WITH THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE FRONT IS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING BECAUSE I KNOW THE CITY OF ANGLETON IS ASKING FOR MORE BUSINESS.
THAT'S BEEN A FOCUS EVER SINCE THAT I'VE BEEN HERE APPEARING BEFORE THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SECURE THAT LAND SO THAT I CAN MAKE IT A BETTER DEVELOPMENT FOR EVERYBODY.
I UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTIAL DOESN'T DO MUCH FOR YOU, BUT THE COMMERCIAL DEFINITELY DOES.
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE JOBS, THE RETAIL TAX, THE SALES TAX, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT QUITE HONESTLY, THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THAT PARTICULAR TRACK, WHERE WHO WANTS THE TREK GUY TO BE THERE ANY LONGER?
>> SURE SOMEBODY DOES. IS LIKE IN BUSINESS.
I IMAGINE SOMEBODY IS DROPPING.
>> YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'M TRYING TO ADD VALUE, NOT GIVE UP ANYTHING ELSE.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT A WIN FOR EVERYBODY AND LITERALLY JUST CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR YEARS, AND NOW THAT IT'S FINALLY READY TO GO, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINGING GOOD SOLID JOBS AND GOOD SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
>> I THINK THE THING THAT'S AT PLAY HERE IS THAT WE'VE HAD WHAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE SUBSTANDARD LOT SETBACKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO CHANGE.
WE DID THAT WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON.
YOU GETTING THIS APPROVED SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO YOU BECAUSE AFTER THAT, BASICALLY WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS APPROVING YOUR DEVELOPMENT HERE.
AFTER THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE THESE CHANGES, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
>> WELL, COUNCILMAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, LIKE, WHENEVER WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT, WE HAD 50 FOOTERS.
I'VE BEEN ADAPTING, AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANYTHING ON THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THIS POINT.
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ALL I'M ASKING FOR TODAY IS JUST SIX MONTHS ON THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE SO THAT IT'S LITERALLY TIME.IT DOESN'T COST THE CITY ANYTHING, AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING A LANAR IN THERE.
I'M PERSONALLY GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF BUILDING THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES.
I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR.
YOU GUYS AREN'T LOOKING FOR THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS BETTER HOUSES.
I CAN GIVE YOU BETTER DEVELOPMENT, AND I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS THAT ADDED BENEFIT.
ALL I'M ASKING IS TO STICK TO WHAT WE'D AGREED TO AND JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
>> YOU SAID NO NATIONAL BUILDERS WERE IN.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCAL HERE THAT CAN AFFORD TO BUILD.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S BEEN REALLY CHALLENGING TO FIND THOSE LOCAL PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO BUILD RIGHT NOW.
IF THEY DON'T BUILD MILLION-DOLLAR PLUS HOMES, THEY DEFINITELY DON'T BUILD STUFF THAT'LL FIT ON THESE LOTS RIGHT NOW.
>> MAYOR IF I MAY, JUST ONE THING.
THE ZONING CODE WAS UPDATED THE SAME DAY.
THAT WAS 12/12/23 WHEN THE DA WAS APPROVED AS WELL AS OUR ZONING.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THIS FOR SIX MONTHS.
>> YES, [INAUDIBLE] SIX MONTHS.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECONDED BY BARBARA SIMMONS,.
COUNCIL IS ABOUT TO VOTE, BUT MY ONLY THING TO YOU IS THE COUNCIL IS REALLY TRYING TO PULL IN AND SHORE UP OUR CODES TO WHERE EVERYONE HERE IS REALLY MAXIMIZING THE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN, THE NEW HOUSES COMING IN.
NOT TO COOKIE CUTTER STANDARD TO WHERE WE CRAM PEOPLE UPON PEOPLE.
THIS LOT IS UNIQUE, AS YOU SAID.
I WOULD BE JUST FINE SEEING IT STILL A PASTURE OR A SWAMP AT THIS POINT.
BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH YOU, WE'VE DONE ALL THIS WORK.
HAD WE NOT GONE THROUGH ALL OF THAT, WE PROBABLY WOULD BE SITTING HERE LOOKING A LITTLE DIFFERENT TODAY.
>> IT WOULD BE A MUCH DIFFERENT SITUATION.
NOBODY'S TRYING TO HURT YOU EITHER.
>> I'LL TELL YOU NOW, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET ANOTHER EXTENSION.
>> COUNCIL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> USUALLY YOU SAY BEFORE I GO TO CALL FOR A VOTE, I'M GOING TO LET ANYTHING FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.
>> GIVE ME YOUR COMMENTS. GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU. I TAKE THE OPPOSITE POSITION.
HE SLID IN ON THE DAY THAT WE SIGNED THE NEW CHANGES WE MADE TO THE ZONING.
THAT WAS THE BIG SIGN FOR HIM TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I GOT LUCKY.
THEY WORKED WITH ME, AND I KNOW THE WORK BEGAN WAY BEFORE THAT DATE, BUT SO DID OUR CONSIDERING THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING.
WE DIDN'T JUST DO IT ON ONE DAY.
THERE HAS TO BE NOTICE PROVISIONS.
WE TOOK ACTION, BUT WE ALSO GRANTED HIM AN EXCEPTION.
BASICALLY, HE SLID UNDER THE RADAR RIGHT AT THE RIGHT TIME.
THEN WHEN IT HAS TIME TO GET THINGS DONE, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HIM, IT DOESN'T GET DONE.
I KNOW IT'S ECONOMICS AND THINGS GO ON, BUT IT DIDN'T GET DONE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO TO A STANDARD, WE EITHER SET THE STANDARD, WE PUT ON LINE IN THE SAND, WE FOLLOW THAT STANDARD, OR WE KEEP ACQUIESCING, AND THEN WE'LL JUST END UP IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WE ALWAYS WERE.
WE'LL MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR EVERYBODY, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE.
>> NO, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE, AND I'M GOING TO SAY TO THE CAMERA.
THIS WAS ALREADY IN PLAY, EFFECTIVE THE SAME DATE THAT WE MADE THE ZONING CHANGES.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.>> ALL THOSE POSED, SAME SIGN.
>> THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
[4. Discussion and possible action on the Austin Colony Subdivision, First Amendment to the Amended and Restated Development and Public Improvement District (PID) Agreement between Tejas-Angleton Development, LLC. and the City of Angleton, Texas.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE AUSTIN COLONY SUBDIVISION, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AGREEMENT BETWEEN TEJAS-ANGLETON DEVELOPMENT, LLC, AND THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS REQUEST CAME BEFORE US FROM MR. WAYNE SANDY RAY REGARDING AUSTIN COLONY SUBDIVISION.
HE IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE REINSTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT DEALT WITH THE PID FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE PURPOSES HE WILL EXPLAIN THIS EVENING HAVE TO DO WITH LANGUAGE WITHIN THAT DA THAT DEALT WITH THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE PROPERTY, THE SUCCESSOR AND ASSIGNS, AND ALSO LANGUAGE DEALING WITH THE ANCHOR ROW TIE IN WITH THE COUNTY.
HE WILL EXPLAIN THE PRIORITY THEREOF.
I WILL SAY THAT WE MEET ON A BI WEEKLY BASIS ON THE PID WITH OUR PROFESSIONALS AND FINANCIAL ADVISORS.
I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE THEM, AS WELL AS LEGAL.
GRADY IS HERE, AND HE ALSO AFFORDED YOU THIS INFORMATION AS WELL.
WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ONCE MR. SANDY RAY APPROACHES THE CONSOLE. THANK YOU.
>> I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ONE. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY?
>> HAND THAT TO CITY SECRETARY.
I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET UP THERE.
>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR SHARING ME ON THIS ISSUE.
WE'RE READY TO START CONSTRUCTION ON AUSTIN COLONY.
WE NEED A DRIVEWAY PERMIT FROM MISSOURI COUNTY.
MISSOURI COUNTY WANTS A LEFT HAND TURN LANE AT THE INTERSECTION OF ANCHOR ROAD AND THE ENTRANCE INTO AUSTIN COLONY, WHICH WE BUDGETED TO PUT IN BEFORE THEY EVEN ASKED FOR IT.
WE BUDGETED FOR IT TO COME IN IN SECTION 2.
THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STATES THAT IT IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT LEFT HAND TURN LANE BUILT WHEN TIGNER ROAD IS OPENED, AND THERE'S 100 HOUSES OCCUPIED.
WHICH WE PUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE THOUGHT.
WE PUT IN OUR NUMBERS THAT WE WOULD DO IT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF SECTION 2.
BECAUSE SECTION 2A WILL BE FULLY DEVELOPED BEFORE THERE'S 100 HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT AND SOLD IN SECTION 1 A.
THE ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER SAID, IS THAT IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY? I SAID, NO.
SHE SAID, "WELL, IF IT WAS, WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE PERMIT." I SUBMITTED THIS TO OTIS AND SO BASICALLY, WHAT IT DOES, IT AMENDS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IT REQUIRES ME TO BUILD THAT START CONSTRUCTION ON SECTION 2 A AND THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE WITHIN 90 DAYS AFTER SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION OF THE 100 LOTS.
THOSE LOTS ARE DEVELOPED FAR IN ADVANCE OF WHEN THE BUILDER ACTUALLY BUILDS THE HOUSES, AND THE HOUSES GENERALLY ARE SITTING OR VACANT ON THE MARKET FOR 30-60 DAYS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEFT HAND TURN LANE BUILT BEFORE THE HUNDRED HOUSES ARE DEVELOPED.
THE COST TO BUILD THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE IS 100% ON THE DEVELOPER.
THE BURDEN TO INSPECT THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING IS 100% ON BRAZORIA COUNTY.
THE BURDEN OF INSPECTING IT AND APPROVING IT AND ENSURING THAT IS CONSTRUCTED.
THAT BURDEN IS 100% ON BRAZORIA COUNTY.
THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSPECT IT.
THE DESIGN, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSPECT THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO, AND DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO DO.
THERE ARE ISSUES WITH WHY IS THE CITY GETTING INVOLVED IN A COUNTY ROAD,
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AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS SIMPLE.THE CITY KNOWS A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS SUBDIVISION THAN THE COUNTY DOES.
THE THE CITIZENS DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET, AND THAT LEFT HAND LANE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON.
THE REASON I REALLY WANT THIS DONE IS I'M READY TO START CONSTRUCTION.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO DO IS TAKE THIS SIGNED AMENDMENT BY THE MAYOR AND HAND IT TO HER, AND SHE'LL ISSUE THAT DRIVEWAY PERMIT, AND THEN WE CAN TURN THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS LOOSE.
WITHIN TWO WEEKS TO A MONTH DEPENDING UPON WEATHER, ETC, WE'LL BE OUT THERE MOVING DIRT.
WITHOUT IT, WE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY PROCESS AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PROCESS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROCESS.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS TEJAS- ANGLETON DEVELOPMENT COMPANY OWNS THE LAND.
TEJAS AND THEN ANGLETON DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IS THE DEVELOPER, AND IT'S A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF TEJAS-ANGLETON WHOLLY-OWNED.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT WE CAN ASSIGN INTO AN AFFILIATE AND A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY IS AN AFFILIATE.
WE DON'T NEED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
IT'S THE SAME OWNERSHIP, SAME PEOPLE.
WHY DID WE DO THAT? BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION LENDER.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. HART.
MR. CARTER, GO AHEAD TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM NOW.
MR. CARTER, CAN COME TO THE PODIUM NOW SINCE YOU'VE FILLED OUT YOUR PHONE.
>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I'M NOT HERE TO COMPLAIN OR ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR SUBDIVISION.
FOR JUST AS MUCH AS IT DOESN'T BOTHER TO ME.
BUT AT ONE TIME AND MR. WRIGHT KNOWS, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH ME.
WHEN DOUG RACER WAS HERE WITH THE DRAINAGE IF THEY REROUTED CAR ROAD, TOOK THE BEND OUT OF IT AND GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR NEW ROAD.
THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE DRAINAGE ON MY SIDE? THAT DRAINAGE DRILL POOR ANYWAY.
ALL THE WATER ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I LIVED THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
I KNOW ALL THAT WATER HAS TO GO UNDERNEATH CAR ROAD TO GET OUT, WHICH WENT BACK TO WALMART.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEW RE ROUTE IS GOING TO BE.
BUT DOUG TOLD ME, WHICH HE IS NOW RETIRED.
SOMEBODY PROBABLY TOOK HIS PLACE, NO ARM DONE.
BUT DOUG ASSURED ME THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT WATER DIDN'T GANG UP ON ME ON MY SIDE AND WE GOT IT OUT THERE WITH THE RE ROUTE.
WHERE WE AT WITH THAT OR AM I TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT QUITE AWARE OF RIGHT NOW?
>> WELL, SIR, SO I'M AWARE OF BECAUSE I WAS AT THE MEETING.
>> WE'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF MEETINGS.
WELL, I WAS AT THE MEETING WHEN YOU DISCUSSED THAT ISSUE.
AFTER THE MEETING AND I WENT OUT TO TALKED ABOUT IT.
>> WE STOPPED AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE GO TIGNER ROAD FROM THE BACK OF WALMART TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.
>> THEN YOU GOT THE PROPERTY LINE, THEN ANOTHER GENTLEMAN OWNS THE-.
>> BEN AND MARS TIGNER ROAD OWNS THAT LITTLE CUT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> NO. THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
>> YES. FROM YOUR QUESTION, THE PERSPECTIVE IS, THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THE ROAD FROM THE EDGE OF HIS PROPERTY TO COUNTY ROAD 44.
WE ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT CARR AND TIGNER TEE IN CORRECTLY AND THEN TIE INTO ALTERNATIVES BASICALLY.
>> THAT IS MY QUESTION LIKE TO KEEP THE CARR ROAD.
>> YES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO CHANGE THE MAIN ROAD.
[LAUGHTER] IT'LL BE CARR ROAD AT THE POINT AT DEAD END OF THE TABLE.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
>> MR. PETERSON'S OVER THERE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND HE'S HEARING EVERYTHING.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OTIS AND JOHN IN REGARDS TO THIS.
THE LAND PLAN FOR THAT AREA, WHEN IT'S COUNTY ROAD 44 CITY LIMIT LINE
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IS JUST RIGHT PAST THE HAMRICKS, RIGHT THERE, I GUESS, THE PRINTER PLATE, WHATEVER THAT PLACE WAS.FROM OUR LAND PLAN, IT'S ALL COUNTY FROM THAT POINT ON.
THAT GETS TO THE SIDE AND DICTATE HOW 44 LOOKS? CORRECT.
>> THE FRONT END AND THE TIE END, YES.
>> CORRECT. FOR JOHN, HAVE YOU REVIEWED THESE CHANGES FROM A CITY STANDPOINT OF HOW THE WIDTH OF THE TURN LANES, WAITING UNTIL THERE'S 100 HOMES, DOES THAT MEET ALL OF OUR CONDITIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE?
>> WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CONSTRUCTION PLANS OR CIVIL PLANS.
ALL WE'VE SEEN IS JUST THE PLATS.
TO ANSWER THE DRAINAGE QUESTION AND ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
>> I WOULD IS THIS NORMAL FOR YOU THIS REQUEST?
>> SPEAKING WITH FINANCIAL ADVISORS, THEY FELT THAT THIS SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF IN ANOTHER MANNER.
I WILL SAY, WE ALSO SPOKE WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY ENGINEERING, WHO IS REQUIRING THAT COORDINATION.
THEY ALSO NOTIFIED ME THAT THE OPTION TO CREATE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY IS AN OPTION.
PERHAPS THIS COULD BE ANOTHER LEGAL INSTRUMENT BY LETTER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COUNTY WOULD NEED FROM THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE COMMITMENT.
THIS IS A PD, A PLAN DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY ORDINANCE ON THE ZONING.
WE DO HAVE AN OVERLAY OVER THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WITH CONDITIONS.
IT'S JUST THAT MUCH OF THE TI INFORMATION WE HAVE NOT SEEN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN FORWARD TO US.
>> BUT ALL THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, CORRECT?
>> EXCEPT FOR THE ROAD, 44 REMAINS ON THE COUNTY.
>> THEY'RE TIE IN. YES, SIR. AT THAT POINT.
>> THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS GOING AFTER.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO KEEP THE ROAD? I DON'T WANT THAT HEADACHE, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY LIMIT MARKERS ARE AND HOW IT ALL TIES BACK TOGETHER?
>> THAT CITY LIMITS LINE IS JUST A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THAT AREA, BUT AS YOU SEE SECTION 1 GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT LINE.
>> THEN IN CHANIT OAK DRIVE, BECAUSE WHERE IT FELL, WE HAD TO GET THE COUNTY TO APPROVE THAT BECAUSE THAT INTERSECTION WAS IN THE COUNTY, CORRECT?
>> THIS IS FOLLOWING THE SAME SUIT.
>> EVERYTHING ACROSS THE STREET IS IN THE COUNTY.
>> IS THAT THE ONLY CHANGE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED?
>> THERE ARE TWO CHANGES TO THE DA.
THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND THE PID ADVISORS, THEY FROWN ON GOING IN AND CHANGING THOSE PID AGREEMENTS IN MULTIPLE MANNERS.
IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY FELT IT'S A PROJECT BEING CREATED THAT CAN BE DONE BY OTHER MEANS.
THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING IS CREATING A NEW PROJECT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU COMMENT ON THAT.
THIS LEFT-HAND TURN LANE IS NOT IN THE PID.
THE PID LINE STOPS AT OUR PROPERTY LINE.
WE CANNOT GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE PID.
THERE IS NOT EVEN A PART OF THE ISSUE.
>> THERE LIES THE PROBLEM, AND GRADY CAN HELP ME WITH IT, BUT THAT IS A PID AGREEMENT TIED IN AS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN ONE.
IT'S NOT YOUR STANDARD TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THAT'S WHY THEY OBJECTED TO DOING SO AS GOING IN AND DOING ANOTHER AMENDMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, WE DID A RECENT AMENDMENT.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE REINSTATED AMENDMENT.
>> SHOULD WE DO IT SEPARATELY? WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, NOT CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT SINCE HE'S PAYING THIS OUT OF POCKET, AND NOT INCLUDING WITH THE PID, JUST ENTER INTO A JUST SEPARATE AGREEMENT REGARDING THE TURN E.
>> ENTER INTO A SECOND AGREEMENT.
>> A SEPARATE AGREEMENT FOR THE TURN LANE.
>> WELL, BEFORE THE COUNTY WILL GIVE A PERMIT WANTS THE DEVELOPER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A THIRD PARTY, THE CITY, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
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IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE ROAD IS BUILT, THEN THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER SHOULD ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT, THEN HE CAN GET HIS PERMIT.HE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY.
I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE BASIC CONCEPT OF IT WAS NEWS TO ME THAT HE DIDN'T WANT REIMBURSEMENT FOR THIS ROAD FROM THE PID.
THE PID HADN'T EVEN BEEN CREATED AFTER THREE OR FOUR YEARS OF SITTING THERE.
THAT YOU SAID THE PID LINE IS NOT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ROAD.
IT COULDN'T BE REIMBURSED BY THE PID.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE DEAL WAS AND IT WAS A WRONG DOCUMENT.
IT NEEDS TO GO IN THE PID AND THE PID IS NOT YET CREATED.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE HE JUST NEEDS THIS DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT UPDATED SO THAT HE CAN GO TO THE COUNTY [OVERLAPPING] AND GET HIS PERMIT BECAUSE IT'S CONTROLLED UNDER THE CITY'S AGREEMENT.
>> RIGHT. THE ROAD IS NOT OURS.
WHY DIDN'T THE COUNTY TAKE CARE OF THE COUNTY BUSINESS?
>> COUNTY I WAS GETTING OUT OF HOUR GO.
>> WE RUN INTO THIS SAME SITUATION WHERE A DEVELOPMENT WOULD FRONT ON A STATE ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO FROM THE CITY IS WE PROVIDE THE TIE IN LETTER, BASICALLY SAYING THE CITY WILL COOPERATE IN THAT INSTANCE.
THERE'S SUCH A THING AS A TIE IN AGREEMENT LETTER OF SOME SORT.
I JUST DON'T HAVE A TEMPLATE WITH ME OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE STATE.
BUT HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S THE SAME INSTANCE.
>> YOU CITY ORDINANCE, WE CREATED THE PID IN '21, I THINK.
>> NO, YOU HAVE TO PETITION THE CITY FOR THAT.
AN EXAMPLE OF ONE WAS ATTACHED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN.
>> THE CITY VOTED ON AN ORDINANCE.
THE PID HAS BEEN CREATED AMONG [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, I TALKED TO THE PID LAWYER AND SHE SAID, NO, TO CONFIRM THAT.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A PID REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.
>> BUT THE CITY VOTED ON AND I'VE GOT IT.
I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT THE CITY VOTED ON THE CREATION, AND THE PID WAS CREATED.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SPEAKS TO WHEN THE PID WAS CREATED, I BELIEVE.
>> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS AS AN EXHIBIT, AND I THINK IT'S EXHIBIT C, A PROPOSED PID AGREEMENT.
BUT AS THE FACTS I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE ACTUAL PID HAS NOT GONE THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS OF BEING CREATED.
I'D LIKE TO THROW THIS HYPOTHETICAL OUT.
LET'S SAY THE COUNTY ISSUES THAT PERMIT.
THEN LET'S SAY AFTER 200 HOUSES, SECTIONS 2 IS BET, THERE'S 200 HOUSES.
YOU GOT CITIZENS IN THE BACKGROUND COMPLAINING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LEFT TURN LANE THERE.
THIS IS A BIG BENEFIT TO THE CITY, AND POSSIBLY IT CREATES SOME PAPERWORK THAT IS UNUSUAL.
BUT WHEN IT DOESN'T COST THE CITY ANY MONEY AND IT BENEFITS THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON, I WOULD THINK YOU'D WANT IT.
>> IT PROPOSED AMENDMENT SAYS THE CITY HAS A RIGHT TO REVIEW THE DESIGN AND INSPECT THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S BRAZORIA COUNTY DESIGN ENGINEERING INSPECTION AND CONSTRUCTION, AND THE BRAZORIA COUNTY ROAD RAY DESIGN CRITERIA MANUAL THAT COUNTS.
IT'S GOING TO BE AS IT IS, A COUNTY ROAD.
THE COUNTY CAN ISSUE THEIR PERMIT WITH WHATEVER CRITERIA AND CONDITIONS THEY WANT.
>> I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY'RE SENDING HIM BACK TO US.
>> NOT EITHER. IF WE SEND A LETTER LIKE WE NORMALLY DO NOTICE JUST SPOKE OF WE'LL COORDINATE AND ALL THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN AMENDED AGREEMENT THAT WE JUST AMENDED IN MARCH.
>> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF IT TO INITIATE?
>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW.
>> THE COUNTY IS WELL AWARE OF THIS AMENDMENT.
I SENT A COPY OF IT AND WHEN SHE SAID IF IT WAS IN THE CITY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE WOULD APPROVE IT.
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IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S PART OF DEVELOPMENT SECTION 2A, AND WE CAN'T REACH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, WHICH MEANS YOU DON'T ACCEPT 2A UNTIL WE BUILD THE LEFT HAND TURN LINE.WHICH IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS AVAILABLE.
THE PROCESS SEEMS TO BE INTERFERING WITH A DIRECT RESULT AND THE DIRECT RESULT IS A LEFT HAND TURN LINE ON COUNTY ROAD 44.
>> THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION.
>> IT'S JUST PART OF GAIN IN DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
>> WELL, IT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION ON COUNTY RULE 44, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION, NOT TO ISSUE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AND ACCEPT 2A UNLESS THE COUNTY HAS ACCEPTED IT.
>> WHICH THIS AMENDMENT WOULDN'T CHANGE THAT.
THE CITY'S NOT AGAINST THE BUILDING A LEFT TURN LANE.
>> IT'S JUST IF THE COUNTY WANTS SOMETHING.
IT DOESN'T MAKE A DEAL BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES.
WE JUST A RIGHT TO LOOK AT IT WHILE IT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED.
>> COUNTY STILL HAS TO GIVE HIM THE PERMIT.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE ADVOCATING TO GIVE IT TO US TO GIVE THE PERMIT.
THEY'RE JUST SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO SEE IT IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT IT'S A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AT THIS POINT, I REALLY WHAT DOES IT MATTER?
>> WE'RE HERE. I DON'T GUESS IT REALLY MATTER.
>> WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO BE THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> WHAT RIGHT DOES THE CITY HAVE PERMIT, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING BY THE CITY OR ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT GRANTING THE PERMIT AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO.
>> I THINK THE COUNTY IS SAYING WE WANT SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO BUILD IT?
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S IN HERE.
>> MIKE CAN SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNTY AND SAY, I WILL BUILD THE LEFT TURN LANE.
>> WELL, SIR. THAT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
IT'S TAKEN ME THIS LONG TO GET HERE AND I'M READY TO GO.
I GUARANTEE YOU FOR ME TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE ENGINE AND I TALKED ABOUT.
THEY SAID THEY KNOW ALL ABOUT THIS. YOU LIVED WITH IT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO DO ANYTHING BUT JUST DENY YOU SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION ON 2A IF YOU DON'T PUT THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE.
THAT'S ALL THEY'RE SAYING AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY.
IF I GO BACK TO THE COUNTY, IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR WHAT WE DO TO START CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S A BIG COUNTY. THEY'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON.
IN A LEFT HAND TURN LANE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S AGENDA.
>> ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY IS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S AN ODD CONVERSATION.
I FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT BLAME ON ANYBODY, BUT, LIKE, SHOULD WE JUST BE DIRECTLY COMMUNICATING? IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE USING THE DEVELOPER AS AN INTERMEDIARY.
WE'RE SPECULATING ON WHAT THEY INTEND AND WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD JUST CUT THE MIDDLE MAN OUT, AND I DON'T KNOW.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO THEM?
>> SURE. BUT OTIS ALREADY HAVE.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY OTIS HAS ALREADY HAVE.
>> WHAT WAS THEIR FEEDBACK? I GUESS I MISSED THAT. I APOLOGIZE.
>> I APOLOGIZE. I STATED, I SPOKE WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER, SPOKE TO THE ASSISTANT ENGINEER.
SHE DID MENTION IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TURN LINE. ALL OF THAT SAME DAY.
>> I GET THAT THERE'S A MECHANISM THAT IMPLEMENTS THIS ADDITIONAL ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
WHAT ARE THEY WANTING FROM US?
>> THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING THE CITY TO DO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CHANGE OF THAT NATURE.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT COULD BE DONE AT THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER.
>> WHICH HE SAYS TAKES ANOTHER YEAR.
>> I'M NOT SURE, BUT YEAH. AS I STATED EARLIER, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THE LETTER.
IT COULD COME FROM THE MAYOR, BUT IT WOULD BASICALLY SUMMARIZE WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES IN TERMS OF THE SECTIONS, AND WE'RE EXPECTING IN TERMS OF THE TIE IN, THE MERE FACT THAT WE WOULD COOPERATE WITH THAT TIE IN.
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>> THAT'S THE LEFT TURN LANE ISSUE BE.
WHAT DOES HE CALL IT? THE SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS.
IT'S IN THE DEFINITION, AS HE QUOTED, BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT 12.3, SAY THE AGREEMENT IS BINDING AND UPON AND INURED TO THE BENEFIT OF THE SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS OF THE PARTIES.
IT SAYS, AS SANDY SAID, MAY BE ASSIGNED TO AN AFFILIATE WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE CITY.
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR BANKER IS SAYING THEY WON'T, BUT THOSE MAGIC WORDS ARE IN THE DOCUMENT TWICE.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO AMEND IT FOR ONE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL AMEND IT FOR THE OTHER.
I DO SOUND LIKE AN ECONOMIST ON THE ONE HAND AND ON THE OTHER HAND.
>> YOU PROPOSE THE FIRST AMENDMENT FOR THE WORDS? LIST OUT YOUR SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS.
IS THE HOLY OWN SUBSIDIARY OF TEJAS-ANGLETON DEVELOPMENT, LLC.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION THAT'S ALREADY THERE, IT SAYS ITS SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS.
THEN IF YOU DROP DOWN FROM THE DEFINITION, YOU GO TO 12.03.
IT SAYS, SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS OF THE PARTIES, AND THEN IT GOES ON AND TALKS ABOUT, EVEN IF YOU JUST ASSIGN IT TO AN AFFILIATE THAT THIS IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CITY CONSENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE BANKER WANTS IT.
>> THE BANKER DIDN'T WANT THIS DEFINITION.
QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
I THOUGHT THAT I SHOULD PUT IT IN THERE JUST TO NOTIFY THE CITY THE BUSINESS ARRAY.
>> WELL, AGAIN, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, WE'RE HERE, WHAT DOES IT HURT? IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING.
>> I DON'T WANT THE DOCUMENT TO GET CHOPPED UP WITH A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS IN THREE MORE YEARS, AND WE HAVE TO DO A SECOND RESTATED AGREEMENT.
BUT I LOOKED AND WE FIRST OPENED A FILE ON SAY 2021, NOT 2022. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
>> HAVE YOU GOTTEN THE OTHER LAND?
>> WE OWNED ALL OF IT. WE OWNED ALL OF IT FOR FOUR YEARS.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BUY SOME OTHER LAND.
>> HE'S REFERRING TO THE OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU WERE AFTER.
THAT WAS RIGHT DOWN OFF OF TIGNER.
>> IT'S NOT REALLY PERTINENT TO THIS DESCRIPTION.
>> WHAT IF THE PAVEMENT STOPS?
>> THAT'S THE PCU ALSO AQUATIC.
>> THE SUBDIVISION IS 164 ACRES THAT TO GET WITH 180.
>> COUNSEL, WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
>> I DON'T SEE HOW WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.
>> YOUR AUTHORITY IS YOU DENY SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION OF WILL COMPLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT'S ALL YOU GOT.
THAT'S ALL THE COUNTY'S ASKING.
WHICH I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD WANT THAT.
YOU WOULD WANT THE LEFT HAND TURN LINE.
>> I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION FOR ANYBODY, SO I LOOK TO Y'ALL.
>> IS THE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO GO TO HELP PUSH FOR YOU TO GET THE APPROVALS THAT SHE NEED AND THE PERMITTING THAT SHE NEED? BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T SEE HOW IT CAN.
>> HOW IS THIS GOING TO FURTHER YOUR CAUSE?
>> I TAKE THIS SIGNED BY THE MAYOR TO THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ENGINEER, AND SHE TAKES IT AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN A DAY OR TWO
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GIVES ME A GRAVELY PERMIT, AND THEN I GO BACK.>> SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO DO THE WELL.
IT IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN? THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF, TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GIVE ME AN AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD BRING TO COUNCIL.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE COUNTY.
AGAIN, HOW WHAT'S THE DEAL? YOU'RE GETTING A LEFT HAND TURN LANE FOR THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON.
IT'S NOT COSTING YOU ANY MONEY.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATIONS.
>> IF IT WAS THAT EASY, WE WOULD PERMIT IT TODAY.
>> I MEAN, THE THING IS WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY IS WHAT I'M HEARING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.
>> YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WITH ME?
>> YOU MEAN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AGAIN? YOU'RE ASKING.
>> I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, I COULD HEAR A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LEFT HAND TURN LANE WHEN WE WERE DOING THE LAND PLAN.
WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS LEFT HAND TURN LANE? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 562 HOUSES IN THIS SUBDIVISION, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY LEFT HAND TURN LANE.
YOU NEED TO BUILD A LEFT HAND TURN LANE.
THEN PUT IT ONE, WE'LL PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
>> I JUST READ THE LINE. THE INSTALLATION OF THE LEFT TURN LANE WILL ENTIRELY BE AT THE DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE AND SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BISOIA COUNTY ROADWAY DESIGN CRITERIA MANUAL.
THEN CITY OF ANGLETON HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVIEW THE SIGN AND INSPECT OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE.
HOWEVER, MISSOURI COUNTY SHALL APPROVE THE DESIGN, ENGINEERING INSPECTION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE LEFT TURN LANE.
IT STATES IT WHO HAS WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES?
>> GREAT, THIS IS SIX AND ONE HAND HALF DOZEN AND THE OTHER.
>> IF YOU WANT TO YES, SHORT ANSWER.
>> IS THIS GOING TO HELP YOU GET OFF HOT CENTER?
>> I'M WITH YOU. I I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME TIME WITH THE COUNCIL.
I ENJOYED THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND STAFF.
[LAUGHTER] BUT I'D LIKE TO DO IT.
MAYBE WATCHING A FOOTBALL GAME DRINKING A FASIZED TEA OR CON AND NEED SOME BARBECUE RIBS.
>> I KNOW YOU'RE TIRED OF SEEING ME COME UP HERE.
WITH THAT SAID, WE COULD JUST TABLE THIS AND HAVE YOU COME BACK NEXT TIME.
>> IT WAS A JOKE. SORRY, BAD JOKE.
BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE DA.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARK SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH TO APPROVE THE CHANGES TO THE DA.
>> HEY, GRADY. IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WHAT LIABILITY DO WE HAVE?
>> ANYBODY ELSE? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
>> I HOPE MR. REY, DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY, BUT I HOPE I DON'T SEE YOU COME BACK HERE ANY TIME SOON.
>> THERE'S NOBODY ON THE COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT THE TURN LANE.
WE JUST DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S OUR BUSINESS.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I ALREADY KNOW.
>> TAKE CARE. NOW, THE REST OF YOU.
[5. Update and discussion on the Gambit Energy Storage Park, 319 Murray Ranch Rd., Angleton, currently a Specific Use Permit within a Single-family Residential 7.2 District (SF-7.2).]
>> ITEM NUMBER 5, UPDATE DISCUSSION ON THE GAMBIT ENERGY STORAGE PARK 319 MURRAY RANCH ROAD, ANGLETON.
IT'S CURRENTLY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 7.2 DISTRICT.
OTIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO OPPOSE THIS?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE ASKED AS A COMMUNICATION ITEM TO LOOK INTO THE GAMBIT ENERGY STORAGE SITE HERE AT 3:19 MURRAY RANCH ROAD IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.
AS PART OF THAT COMMUNICATION, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF THE LEGAL CONSULTANTS REGARDING THIS REVIEW.
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THEY HAVE FORWARDED A MEMO WHICH ADDRESSES THE QUESTION OF THE LEGITIMACY OF THE USE BEING THERE AS IT RELATES TO LEGALLY COMPLYING WITH THE ZONING CODE.THAT MEMO IS ATTACHED, AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MEMO PRESENTED TO YOU BY ALEXANDRA.
FROM GRADY'S OFFICE REGARDING THE USE BEING THERE, AND SHE GOES THROUGH I THINK A VERY COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DEFINING EXACTLY WHAT THE STORAGE PARK REPRESENT BY DEFINITION AND ALSO SHORT ANSWER WAS, OF COURSE, THAT THE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM DOES COMPLY WITH THE ZONING AND REGARDING THE MONITORING OF THE SITUATION IN TERMS OF THE NOISE, WE'RE AWARE THAT IT'S BEEN PROBLEMATIC TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, MOSTLY TO THE WEST.
STAFF HAS, OF COURSE, ON OCCASION, MADE EVERY ATTEMPT TO TRY TO U REPLICATE WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE NOISE LEVELS BY DOING A DECIBEL READING.
ALSO, THAT WAS A NOISE STUDY IN WHICH THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE SUP BY GAMBIT THEMSELVES THROUGH POWER PLUS THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND COPIED TO THE COUNCIL IN WHICH COMPLIANCE WAS ACHIEVED IN TERMS OF THE DECIBEL LEVELS.
AS STATED, WE ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, HAVE VISITED THE SITE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE NOISE LEVEL WAS NOT AT THE THRESHOLD IN WHICH MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS HAVE COME IN, BUT THEY ARE, OF COURSE, IN THE 50 DECIBEL LEVEL, IN TERMS OF THOSE READINGS.
I THINK ON YESTERDAY, I MADE ATTEMPTS TO GO OUT, BUT IF SOMEONE'S CUTTING THE GRASS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T DO A READING, AND THAT'S WHAT I BASICALLY EXPERIENCED.
TEMPERATURES HAVE NOT BEEN OVER 100, I THINK, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS BAD, BUT APPROACHING THAT LEVEL.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE SEEING MOST OF THE NOISE.
I'M GOING TO DEFER A LOT OF THE LEGAL QUESTIONS TO GRADY REGARDING THE MEMO OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I THINK YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PERSONS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP IN WHICH IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO APPROACH THIS.
THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING PER SE, BUT IT'S ITEM.
I WHICH PUBLIC WANTS TO GIVE INPUT, AND WE WILL RECEIVE THAT INPUT.
STAFF IS HERE AND LEGAL IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THIS STARTED. KELLY MCDANIEL.
THANK YOU FOR WAITING PATIENTLY.
KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.
>> THEY NEVER MAKE THESE PODIUMS. SHORT. I'M KELLY MCDANIEL. THANK YOU.
NOW I CAN SEE OVER THE TOP OF IT.
I LIVE AT 883 SPREADING UP DRIVE.
WE'VE MEASURED IT. WE ARE OUR FENCE TO THEIR FENCE IS 429 FEET.
FROM MY BACK PORCH IS 462 FEET.
I'VE BEEN RECORDING. I KNOW Y'ALL WANT THIS QUICK.
BUT I'LL MAKE THIS REALLY QUICK.
>> THAT WAS MAY 23 AT 5:20 FIFTH.
>> THIS IS FROM MY BACK PORCH.
THAT WAS JUNE AT 1:52, AND IT WAS 84 DEGREES.
THIS WAS JUNE 8TH AT 11:20 PM.
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IT WAS 81 DEGREES.>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION HELL HAVE YOU LIVED THERE?
>> WE MOVED THERE, AND I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 2022.
>> YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE CALENDAR A COUPLE OF TIMES?
>> DO YOU SEE ANY CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE SEASONS?
>> THIS MORNING AND ACTUALLY DID A DECIBEL READING, I WAS 68 AT MY BACK PATIO.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST PART OF FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 2022.
FIRST HEARD THE TRAINS, SO WE DID HEAR THIS.
WE RELOCATED DOWN HERE AFTER WE RETIRED BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING GRANDBABIES.
MY WHOLE GOAL WHEN I RETIRED WAS TO HAVE A GRANDPARENTS HOUSE.
WE HAD A BIG BACK PATIO PUT IN.
NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE LISTEN TO DAY AND NIGHT.
IT'S WHEN WE GET UP IN THE MORNING.
I NOTICED WHEN THEY DID THEIR STUDY, IT WAS DONE IN FEBRUARY, BETWEEN THE 19TH AND THE 22ND.
THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS 45 DEGREES.
THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THOSE FANS WIDE OPEN.
BUT THEY'RE STILL AT 87 DEGREES, AND I REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING, THEY SAID, THAT THEY WOULD BE RUNNING AT FULL SPEED WHEN ERCOTT CALLED AN EMERGENCY.
WE DON'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY AT 80 DEGREES OR 87 DEGREES, NOT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
WE CAN GO TO BED AT NIGHT, AND WE HEAR IT IN OUR BEDROOM.
IT'S JUST WE BUILT THIS PATIO SO WE COULD ENTERTAIN OUR FRIENDS AND OUR FAMILY.
YOU CAN'T EVEN SIT OUT THERE VERY LONG WITHOUT HEARING IT.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU'LL HEAR WHEN YOU WAKE UP.
>> WHAT FENCE DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BACKYARD?
>> WE HAVE A EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE.
>> CORRECT. IT'S GOT TO THE POINT I WOULD ALMOST SELL THE HOUSE.
BUT IN GOOD FAITH, I COULDN'T SELL THAT HOUSE TO SOMEBODY WITHOUT TELLING THE M ABOUT THAT NOISE. I COULDN'T DO IT.
>> HE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THAT IN YOUR CLOSING DOCUMENTS ON YOUR MORTGAGE?
>> IT'S JUST THE POINT I'M JUST I'M VOTED GEARS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED.
MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH RETIRED FROM CHEMICAL PLANTS UP IN THE LAPORTE AREA.
WE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT, NOT KNOWING THERE WAS 1400500 FEET BEHIND OUR HOUSE.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND STILL HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE WERE SENT A LETTER ABOUT THE FIRE OR THE EXPLOSIONS THEY HAD UP IN CALIFORNIA AND THE ADMISSIONS THAT IT CAN PERMEATE CARBON DIOXIDE, METHANE, ETHANE.
WE KNOW WHAT THOSE CHEMICALS DO.
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT THAT FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN PLAYING OUT IN THE BACKYARD.
IF WE HAD TO LEAVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO EVACUATE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE WOULD HAVE TO BE OUT OF OUR HOME.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
>> PERFECT TIMING, I'M KELLY'S NEIGHBOR.
I LIVE AT 887, SPREADING OAKS.
BEEN THERE FOR 7.5 YEARS SINCE THE SUBDIVISION STARTED.
I'M APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET FROM THE BIG WALL TO MY BACK PATIO.
I BOUGHT A SPL METER IN JUNE THE 8, EVERY DAY SINCE JUNE THE 8TH, I HAVE RECORDED SPL LEVELS ABOVE 50 DECIBELS FOR MULTIPLE HOURS AT A TIME.
IRONICALLY, WHEN I WAS WRITING MY NOTES FOR THIS MEETING, THE NOISE LEVEL WAS 57-61 DECIBELS FOR TWO HOURS.
THIS WAS ON SATURDAY MORNING AROUND 9:30.
>> MY BACK PATIO. MY KITCHEN WINDOW IS RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE MY TABLE IS, THE WHOLE TIME I'M WRITING THIS, I COULD LISTEN TO THE NOISE WHILE I WAS WRITING.
ANYTHING OVER 57 DECIBELS, I HEAR INSIDE MY HOUSE OVER THE TV.
IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN WHEN THEY STARTED THIS PROJECT, I QUOTE, "THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETELY SCREENED FROM VIEW BY SUBSTANTIAL NATURAL VEGETATION, INCLUDING EXISTING COURSES OF LIVE OAK TREES.
THERE WILL BE AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH SLATED FENCE SURROUNDING IT COMPLETELY FROM VIEW."
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SIGNIFICANT VEGETATION IS UNNECESSARILY REMOVED AND NONE HAS BEEN REPLACED.SIGNIFICANT PARTS OF THE SITE ARE VISIBLE FROM HOUSES ON SPREADING OAKS STILL BECAUSE THEY ONLY BUILT A TALL WALL PART OF THE WAY AROUND.
THE TALLER WALL WAS COMPLETELY INSTALLED PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO, AND WE DID NOTICE AN IMPACT.
BUT NOW, IT'S LIKE THE SOUND GOES OVER MY HOUSE, BOUNCES OFF OF CLARICE HOUSE, WHO'LL GET TO SPEAK IN A MINUTE AND IT'S JUST AS LOUD ON MY FRONT PORCH AS IT IS ON THE BACK PORCH.
Y'ALL ARE WELCOME TO COME AND MEASURE SP LEVELS AT MY HOUSE AT ANY TIME.
THE NOISE IMPACTS IN THE FAQS PROVIDED TO US SAID THAT GAMBIT PLUS POWER STATED AND I QUOTE, "THERE ARE NO ANTICIPATED NOISE IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING RESIDENCES.
ALTHOUGH THE FACILITY WILL CONTAIN EQUIPMENT SIMILAR TO SUBSTATION AIR CONDITIONING, THE ANTICIPATED NOISE LEVEL OF THE PROJECT BOUNDARY IS LESS THAN 55 DECIBELS, THAT WOULD BE AT THE SITE.
THIS IS BELOW THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL OF REST NEIGHBORHOODS." HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART.
"THE SOUND LEVEL ACCORDING TO THEM, WILL DROP FURTHER AS A FUNCTION OF DISTANCE FROM THE PROJECT BOUNDARY AND BE LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS AT 130 METERS, WHICH IS 100 FEET FROM THE BOUNDARY." KEEP IN MIND, I'M 400 FEET AWAY, AND I'M RECORDING 50 DECIBEL LEVELS ON A DAILY BASIS MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
I REPEAT MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
IF GAMBIT LIVED UP TO THEIR WORD AT 40 DECIBELS, WE SHOULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING AT ALL AND YET WE HEAR IT ON A DAILY BASIS. I'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THAT PART.
MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY IS REDO THE SOUND MEETING FOR THEIR COMPLIANCE, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT WAS DONE BASICALLY IN THE WINTER.
YOU DON'T RUN FANS IN THE WINTER, THEY'RE NATURALLY COOL.
ALL SUMMER LONG, WE HEAR THIS, AND WE WILL UNTIL PROBABLY THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER.
IT'LL FALL BACK DOWN, AND THEN WE'LL BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
LIKE I SAID, MANY DAYS, THE SOUND IS SO LOUD AND ECHOES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE FRONT PART OF MY HOUSE.
WE WALK DOWN THE STREET, DOWN RUSTIC, ALMOST ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE COURT, AND YOU COULD HEAR IT DOWN THERE ALMOST AS GOOD AS YOU CAN HEAR IT IN MY FRONT YARD.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS AND I GO BACK TO RESALE VALUES, MY CAREER I WAS A VP OF LENDING FOR TEXAS DOW CREDIT UNION FOR 10 YEARS, MORTGAGE LENDING IS ONE OF MY AREAS.
WHEN YOU SELL YOUR HOUSE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THESE HEARINGS, THIS WILL HAVE TO BE DISCLOSED ON THE CLOSING STATEMENT ON THE CONDITION OF THE HOME, WHICH WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT RESALE VALUE, BECAUSE WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY MY HOUSE AND THEY GO, YOU'RE 400 FEET FROM A NOISE SOURCE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE SHOULD TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT IT AND HOLD GAMBIT TO THEIR WORD OF LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID THEY COULD ACCOMPLISH.
I KNOW THE CITY PASSED AN ORDER AND SAYS 50 DECIBELS, THEY'RE EXCEEDING IT ON A DAILY BASIS. THANK YOU.
>> CLAIRE DANES HOUSE. [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] I'LL LOOK AT THE NAMES COMING UP.
>> MY NAME IS CLAIRE DANES HOUSE.
I LIVE AT 864, SPREADING OAKS DRIVE.
I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM LANCE.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT I'M 660 FEET AWAY FROM THE SOUND BARRIER, OR THE WALL, WE CALL IT, BUT THERE WAS AN INITIAL WALL AND SO THERE'S A WALL.
THERE'S A SOUND BARRIER ON INSIDE OF THAT WALL OR OUTSIDE.
THERE'S A GREEN SPACE WITH VEGETATION.
THERE'S A BIG STREET, AND THEN THERE'S MY HOUSE.
I'M IN MY BACKYARD, AND I CAN HEAR IT JUST AS PLAIN AS DAY, LOUD, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
I'M OUTSIDE IN MY BACKYARD ALL THE TIME WITH MY POOL.
I'M WAY OVER IN MY BACKYARD, PROBABLY 700 AND SOMETHING FEET AWAY.
WHEN THEY PUT THE SOUND BARRIER UP, WE MET.
THIS IS LIKE THE THIRD OR FOURTH MEETING WE'VE BEEN HERE.
THEY CAME AND THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO MITIGATE THE SOUND.
WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO US, AND THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THIS WALL UP.
THEY ASSURED US THAT WAS GOING TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION.
IT HAS NOT IMPROVED IT ONE BIT.
IF ANYTHING, IT FUNNELED THE SOUND MORE TO THE WEST, DOWN THE RIDE AWAY AND DOWN THE STREETS, AND YOU CAN HEAR IT MORE NOW.
IT'S JUST AS LOUD AT MY HOUSE AS IT WAS BEFORE.
THERE HAS BEEN NO IMPROVEMENT.
THE ONLY IMPROVEMENT IT DID WAS IT DID CUT DOWN THE VISIBILITY.
YOU CAN'T SEE THE WHITE TOPS, LOOKS LIKE TRAILER PARK OF ALL THE FAN HOUSINGS.
IT DID IMPROVE THAT ONLY ON PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE.
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BUT ALL THE GUYS ARE SOME OF THEM HERE THAT LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE.THEY CAN STILL SEE THOSE WHITE TOPS.
SO THEY STILL HAVE THE SOUND AND THE VISIBILITY PROBLEM.
IN FACT, I THINK THEY HAVE A BIGGER SOUND PROBLEM BECAUSE IT FUNNELS IT THEIR WAY, AND THEY HAVE STILL THE VISIBILITY PROBLEMS. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T PUT THE WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND OR AT LEAST THREE WAYS. I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM TO SOLVE, BUT IT DID NOT MITIGATE THE ISSUE, I GUESS IS THE POINT.
THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN GOING ON OVER FOUR, IF NOT LONGER.
I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS LIKE THE THIRD OR FOURTH MEETING THAT WE'VE BEEN TO.
I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH ALL MY SOUNDS.
I'VE GOT TONS OF VIDEOS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE 100 VACUUM CLEANERS AT A COMMERCIAL CAR WASH RUNNING ALL DAY ALL NIGHT.
I HEAR IT CONSTANTLY, AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING, AND IT IS JUST AMAZING WHEN YOU DON'T HEAR IT.
I TAKE VIDEOS AND IN THE BACKGROUND OF MY VIDEOS, IT'S SO SUPER LOUD. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
IT'S JUST LIKE THAT SOUND, EVERYTHING SO YOU CAN'T EVEN ENJOY YOUR BACKYARD AND THE SWIMMING POOL AND THE PEACE AND QUIET.
I KNOW I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. MY QUESTIONS ARE, DO THEY COLLECT NOISE DATA? DO THEY SHARE THE NOISE DATA WITH THE CITY TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE? DO THEY MEASURE THE DATA, LIKE THEY SAID, AT A DECENT TIME? WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
WE'VE MEASURED IT, WE CAN GIVE YOU A MILLION DATA POINTS AND THEY COME OUT WHEN IT'S 40 DEGREES AND ONE TIME IN FEBRUARY AND MEASURE IT AND SAY, WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
NO. THEN WHEN WE CALL THEM AND COMPLAIN, THEY TELL US, WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE, CALL THE CITY.
HERE WE ARE. CITY, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM.
Y'ALL GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO MITIGATE IT, THEY DIDN'T.
SHOW ME THEIR SOUND DATA, THAT THAT SOUND BARRIER THAT THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON, IT WAS A FANCY ORDEAL.
I WANT TO SEE THE DATA THAT SHOWS THAT IT DID REDUCE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE IT AND WE'VE GOT PROOF THAT IT DIDN'T.
WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THEIR NEXT STEPS TO REDUCE THE SOUND, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT IN THE 40 DECIBEL RANGE LIKE THEY SAID.
WE'RE TALKING 700,000 OR MORE FEET AWAY, WE'RE HEARING THESE LOUD NOISES.
THIS IS NOT WITHIN THEIR PARAMETERS AT ALL. THAT'S ALL I GOT.
>> THANK YOU. MR. ERIC DANIEL.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DO YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN WHAT A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I'LL GET BACK TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
I LIVE AT 872 SPREADING OAKS DRIVE.
FOR FULL DISCLOSURE. MY WIFE, CHRISTINE DANIEL IS PART OF CITY COUNCIL.
I'M HERE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN WHO'S BEING AFFECTED REGULARLY BY THE PRESENCE AND THE OPERATION OF THIS BATTERY SYSTEM.
WORTH NOTING, I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER BY TRAINING.
I'VE WORKED FOR 19 YEARS IN RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIALIZATION OF TECHNOLOGY FOR THE ENERGY INDUSTRY.
FOR THE LAST ALMOST NINE YEARS, I'VE WORKED IN RENEWABLE POWER SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT AND QUALIFICATION AND DEPLOYMENT OF SYSTEMS JUST LIKE THAT SO I'M NOT HERE TO SAY I'M AN EXPERT, BUT I'M PRETTY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER.
I WANTED TO SHARE THREE PARTICULAR THINGS.
SECOND THING IS ABOUT THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, AND THE THIRD IS A REQUEST TO REVOKE THEIR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO FAST, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
SPECIFIC TO ZONING, ANGLETON IS ZONED.
THERE IS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, A VARIETY OF TYPES, AND AGRICULTURE.
MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AT THIS A LOT LONGER THAN ME, IS IT WORKS TO PRESERVE FAVORABLE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
ALSO WORKS TO ENABLE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL OPERATORS TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY DO WITHOUT AFFECTING RESIDENTS AND GETTING NOISE, COMPLAINTS, LIGHTING, EMISSIONS, WHATEVER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING FOR SF7.2, IT VERY CLEARLY SPECIFIES THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANT THERE.
IT DOES, HOWEVER, ALLOW WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, TRANSMISSION LINES.
IT ALSO ALLOWS ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS.
NOW IF QUIVERS CONTROLLING THESE SLIDES, IF YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE 120,
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AND THEN IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THAT.ACTUALLY, THERE'S A FIGURE SCROLL DOWN A BIT FURTHER, PLEASE ON 124.
IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THAT GRAPHIC, THAT'S JUST AS GOOD OF A CARTOON AS I CAN GENERATE.
IN A TRADITIONAL ELECTRICAL GENERATION SYSTEM, SO THE GRID ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE POWER GENERATORS, WHICH THE ANGLETON CITY CODE DESCRIBES AS ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANTS.
THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF IN THE MIDDLE THERE, WHICH IS TRANSMISSION LINES, AGAIN, PER THE ANGLETON CITY CODE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A SUBSTATION.
THAT HAS THOSE AS A GRADE OUT BOXES THAT ARE IN BETWEEN THE TRANSMISSION NETWORKS AND DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS.
TRANSMISSION LINES DO JUST THAT.
THEY TRANSMIT ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM A SOURCE TO A LOAD, SUBSTATIONS, STEP UP OR DOWN ELECTRICAL VOLTAGE AS IS THE CASE AS REQUIRED, OR CONNECTS TO A DISTRIBUTION NETWORK, SO THE NORMAL LIGHT POLES YOU SEE IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS IN ORDER TO DELIVER ELECTRICAL POWER.
THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION WITH GAMBIT, THEY HAVE INSTALLED A BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM AT A SUBSTATION OR AS CLOSE TO A SUBSTATION AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.
IT'S WHERE A HIGH VOLTAGE LINE FEEDS A DISTRIBUTION NETWORK.
NOW, I'LL GET TO THE POINT OF THAT IN JUST A SECOND, BUT SPECIFIC TO ZONING, THE REASON YOU DON'T HAVE ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANTS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IS THEY POSE A NUMBER OF HAZARDS THAT YOU WOULDN'T ORDINARILY FIND IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, LIKE THE NOISE, LIKE THE LIGHT POLLUTION, LIKE THE POTENTIAL EXPOSURE TO A WHOLE LITANY OF CHEMICALS THAT AREN'T PRESENT IN NORMAL DAILY LIFE.
THE SAFETY PART OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS FULLY APPRECIATE.
WE GIVE YOU A PICTURE, IF YOU WILL.
EVERYBODY HAS SEEN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE WHEN IT'S ON FIRE, LIKE ON THE NEWS OR ON THE INTERNET.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THOSE NODS AS YES.
THE EQUIVALENT ENERGY THAT'S STORED AT THIS GAMBIT SITE IS ABOUT 2000 EVS WORTH OF ENERGY.
IMAGINE A COUPLE HUNDRED EVS ON FIRE AT THE SAME TIME NEXT TO A BUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
NOT SOMETHING I THINK IS WORTH THE TAX REVENUE THAT IT'S BRINGING OUT.
NOW, THE PRODUCTS OF A THERMAL RUNAWAY EVENT AT THIS BATTERY PARK INCLUDE THINGS LIKE HYDROGEN CYANIDE.
THEY INCLUDE HF GAS, HYDROFLUORIC GAS.
THEY INCLUDE A NUMBER OF OTHER COMBUSTIBLE PRODUCTS THAT AREN'T REALLY SUITABLE FOR PEOPLE TO BREATHE THEM. GUESS WHAT? WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSES WHERE WE DID FOR A PARTICULAR REASON BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY A RESIDENTIAL AREA, NOT A REVERSIBLE CHEMICAL POWER PLANT IN EFFECT.
ONTO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THE LEGAL MEMO IS ACTUALLY INCORRECT, AND IT'S FOR REASONS THAT ARE DESCRIBED HERE AND ARE DESCRIBED WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS.
IN A COUPLE OF THE EMAILS I'VE SENT WHERE GAMBIT HAS REGISTERED AS A POWER GENERATION CORPORATION ON THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS WEBSITE, IT STATES POWER GENERATORS, THOSE WHO ENGAGE IN COMMERCE TO SELL ELECTRICAL ENERGY TO THE WHOLESALE MARKET, AND THEY DO THIS VIA ARBITRAGE AND ANCILLARY SERVICES.
THEY DID THAT FOR A PARTICULAR REASON.
THEY DIDN'T REGISTER AS A SUBSTATION.
THEY DIDN'T REGISTER AS TRANSMISSION LINES.
THEY REGISTERED AS AN ELECTRICAL GENERATION CORPORATION.
PLUS POWER, THE PROJECT DEVELOPER SPENT WELL OVER $100 MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS FACILITY.
THEY DIDN'T DO THAT FOR A SUBSTATION.
THEY DIDN'T DO THAT AS TRANSMISSION LINES.
THE POLES AND WIRES COMPANIES LIKE TEXAS, NEW MEXICO AND CENTERPOINT ARE THE ONES WHO TYPICALLY OWN THINGS LIKE TRANSMISSION LINES AND SUBSTATIONS.
THE SUBSTATION THEY'RE CONNECTED TO IS OWNED BY TEXAS NEW MEXICO POWER. ALMOST THERE.
THE REASON I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU GUYS REVOKE THE SUP IS THIS THING SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BUILT.
WE MOVED IN IN MAY OF EXCUSE ME, JUNE OF 2020, AND ALL OF THE HEARINGS AND WHATNOT HAD ALREADY BEEN CONDUCTED AT THAT POINT.
I GAVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND DEAL WITH THE SAFETY HAZARDS.
THEY SEEM TO DO THAT OKAY AND ALSO WITH THE NOISE POLLUTION ISSUE, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'VE WORKED IN THIS INDUSTRY FOR ALMOST NINE YEARS NOW.
I'M NOT ANTI GREEN ENERGY, I'M NOT ANTI BATTERIES, I'M NOT ANTI COMPANIES, BUT THEY ARE MAKING AN OBNOXIOUS SITUATION FOR A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. I LOOKED IT UP, THE OTHER THING TO BE AWARE OF.
I WOULD ESTIMATE THEY SPENT PROBABLY 120-$150 MILLION BASED ON NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LAB COST ESTIMATES, AND THE LIKE.
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THEIR APPRAISED VALUE WITH THE BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS ABOUT $30 MILLION.THAT MEANS THEY PAY ABOUT $145,000 PER YEAR TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PAYS WAY MORE THAN THAT IN TOTAL TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON, AND LEAVING THIS FACILITY IN PLACE IS BASICALLY SAYING YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THEM RUINING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND PUTTING AN UNDUE SAFETY HAZARD ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR, THAT WE, AS LANCE AND, MISS MCDANIEL, POINTED OUT, WE CAN'T REALLY JUST SELL AND MOVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT NOW.
I'M ASKING VERY RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU GUYS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
>> I'M STEPHANIE BOX. I LIVE AT 903 SPREADING OAKS JUST DOWN THE STREET.
I'M ACTUALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE EASEMENT.
LIKE CLARA HAD SAID, THEY HAVE BUILT THE SOUND BARRIER, WHICH HAS FUNNELED THE SOUND TO OUR PROPERTY.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE VEGETATION TO BLOCK US.
WE SEE THE LINES, WE SEE THE EQUIPMENT.
I HAVE USED THIS TO FIGHT TAXES BEFORE.
WE SOUGHT OUR PROPERTY IN 2020.
WHEN WE PICKED OUR LIVE, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.
THERE WAS VEGETATION BEHIND US.
WE KNEW THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR MORE HOUSES BEING ADDED BEHIND US.
DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BATTERY PART TAKING PLACE.
I GUESS THAT'S OUR FAULT FOR NOT RESEARCHING IT ENOUGH BEFOREHAND, BUT WHO KNEW YOU WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH STUFF LIKE THAT? I'M A HOME SCHOOL PARENT. I HAVE TWO KIDS.
WE DO SCHOOL OUTSIDE, WE PLAY OUTSIDE, WE HAVE FRIENDS OUTSIDE. WE'RE ALWAYS OUT.
WE DON'T GO OUT DURING THE SUMMER, AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE HEAT.
I PREFER THE HEAT. WE DON'T GO OUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T ENJOY IT.
I BOUGHT A HAMMOCK TO SIT ON MY BACK PORCH, READ, DRINK COFFEE IN THE MORNING.
CAN'T DO THAT IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.
ALL I HEAR IS THE NOISE FROM THE BATTERY PARK.
I REQUEST SOMETHING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
WE BUILT OUR HOME THINKING IT WAS OUR FOREVER HOME.
WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO STAY WITH THAT NOISE.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE LIVE IN SUCH A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IN SUCH A GREAT TOWN, YOUR MOTTO IS THE HEART OF BRAZORIA COUNTY, WHERE THE HEART IS.
THAT'S WHERE MY HEART IS, TOO.
BUT WE CAN'T CONTINUE STAYING IN OUR PLACE WHEN WE CAN'T ENJOY IT.
IT'S NOT ENJOYABLE TO HAVE TO HEAR THE NOISE AND TO HAVE MY KIDS NOT WANT TO GO OUTSIDE WHEN ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS BE OUTSIDE.
MY KIDS ARE FRIENDS WITH THE KIDS HERE.
CLARA WAS COMING OVER ALL THE TIME TO SWIM AT MY HOUSE AND WE DON'T ANYMORE.
WE DON'T HAVE A BIG FANCY POOL.
WE HAVE A BLOW UP POOL, BUT IT'S WHAT MY KIDS ENJOY WHEN THE SOUND IS ENJOYABLE.
I ACTUALLY HAVE RECORDINGS ALSO.
I DID RECORD A VIDEO BEFORE COMING HERE WITHOUT THE NOISE.
I HAVE A BASE SOUND OF WHAT IT SHOULD SOUND LIKE.
THEN I HAVE NOISE VIDEOS FROM EVEN 4:50 IN THE MORNING ALL THE WAY TO 11:20 AT NIGHT ON VARIOUS DAYS.
THERE IS A CITY ORDINANCE FOR NOISE IN THE BATTERY PARK IS WAY OUTSIDE OF THAT ORDINANCE.
I ALSO HAVE DECIBEL READINGS THAT GO UP TO 75, AND THE CITY ORDINANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OR WHAT GAMBIT IS SAYING IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE 50S, AND IT'S NOT.
SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT IT.
>> YOU SAID YOU HAVE THE ONE AT BASE WHERE YOU DON'T HEAR IT?
>>NO. I HAVE ONE FROM TODAY BEFORE COMING UP HERE.
IT'S LIKE THERE'S THE BASE NORMAL, QUIET SOUND WHERE YOU DON'T HEAR THE FANS, WHICH IS WHAT PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY, THEY WERE RECORDING.
THEN I ALSO HAVE RECORDINGS FROM VARIOUS DAYS THROUGHOUT THE DAYS WHERE THE SOUND IS CONSTANT AND LOUDER THAN 50 FOR SURE.
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>> I'D LIKE TO ADD JUST ONE MORE QUICK COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
THE REASON THE FANS ARE RUNNING MORE WHEN IT'S HOT, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU PLUG YOUR CELL PHONE AND IT STARTS CHARGING, IT GETS WARM.
THIS BATTERY SYSTEM IS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT.
ELECTROCHEMICAL ENERGY STORAGE IS NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT PROCESS.
SOME OF THE ENERGY THAT GOES INTO THE BATTERY IS DISSIPATED AS HEAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT PERFECTLY EFFICIENT.
THAT'S THE HEAT THAT'S DISSIPATED.
WHENEVER THE THING IS UNDERGOING A FULL RATE CHARGING OR DISCHARGING, THE FANS WILL BE RUNNING AT THEIR PEAK.
BECAUSE THE PRICEBATTERUS ARE FLUCTUATING IN THE MARKET MORE RAPIDLY RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE CHARGING AND DISCHARGING IT CONSTANTLY TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE THING.
>> ERIC, IS IT TRUE THAT THE LEVEL OF NOISE AND THE FREQUENCY OF THE NOISE HAD TO DO WITH HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE MAKING [INAUDIBLE] WHEN THEY'RE MAKING MONEY [INAUDIBLE]?
>> YEAH. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT JUST FOR RECORDS.
THERE IS AN OUTFIT IN AUSTIN CALLED MOTO ENERGY.
THEY ESTIMATED THAT GAMBIT IN 2023 MADE SOMEWHERE AROUND $27 MILLION FOR THE YEAR.
NOT QUITE AS MUCH LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF MARKET SATURATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S BEEN RUNNING A WHOLE LOT MORE THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR.
>> WAIT, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, [INAUDIBLE]? [LAUGHTER] THIS IS CHRIS AND PEL'S 49TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY TODAY, AND HE'S MAKING THIS A PRIORITY TO COME HERE TO TALK TO US.
>> SHE'S RIGHT. POLLET SAID I HAD TO BE HERE.
I'M GOING TO LOOK AT HOW THIS STARTED.
I WAS HERE WHEN THIS ALL STARTED.
THEY CAME TO THE CITY I GOT A PLAN AHEAD OF TIME BY AN ENGINEER.
SENT IT TO ME. HE SAID, CHRIS, YOU DON'T WANT THIS ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR SUBDIVISION.
IT'S A BIGGEST SUBDIVISION IN ANGLETON BIGGER AND AUSTIN COLONY OF THOSE, BUT A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS.
BY THE WAY, PROCESS IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT NOW.
YOU STILL ACCOMPANY Y'ALL, SAY, WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT, AND SAY THIS AND WE BUILT IT.
NOW IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY'S BEGGING FOR STUFF, BUT THAT'S NO STORY.
ANYWAY. THIS PROCESS REALLY WAS PRETTY PATHETIC.
MOLLY EMERSON WAS GAMBIT, WAS HERE.
I WENT TO EVERY MEETING, EVERY TOWN HALL, EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
THEY SENT A COPY OF THIS ENGINEERING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, EVEN SAW IT, TO THE MAYOR PRO-TEM AT THE TIME, SAID, WE HAVE TO STOP THIS.
HE RESPONDED, YES, WE'LL STOP IT.
TWO DAYS LATER, HE GIVES ME A MESSAGE SAYS, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP IT.
SAID THAT IT'S TOO VALUABLE TO THE CITY.
I KNEW AT THAT POINT, WE HAD TO WORK ON WAYS TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND NOT JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE WEST BY MARSHALL ROAD, THEY'RE GROUND ZERO.
IT'S EVEN WORSE THERE. THERE WAS TWO SITES.
ONE OF THE SITES WAS THE MULBERRY FIELD, THE GUY THAT WAS JUST HERE.
IT CONNECTS TO THE TRANSITION LINE.
IT'S ISOLATED, THEY COULD GO OFF OF NORTH WALKER DIDN'T HAVE TO ENTER IN WESTSIDE OAK ROAD.
IDEAL. WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IF THEY WOULD HAVE BUILT OVER THERE.
BUT THEY LIKED THE AREA AT THE END OF WESTSIDE OAK.
TRUCKS COULD STREAM IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO, BUT THEY DID.
YOU KNOW THEY DID. THEY CAME IN. BUT ANYWAY.
DON'T KNOW WHY CITY COUNCIL CHOSE TO PUT IT IN THE WORST POSSIBLE PLACE IN THE CITY.
BUT THEY DID. I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.
I KEPT GOING ON IN EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT MOLLY EMERSON, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER HER.
SHE WAS A GAMBIT REPRESENTATIVE.
SHE WOULD TALK ABOUT HOW THE NOISE, WE SAID NOISE, NOISE, NOSE.
WE CAN'T HAVE IT HERE, BUT COUNCIL SAID, YES, YOU CAN PUT IT THERE.
SHE STATED IN ONE COUNCIL MEETING, AND I RECALL IT CLEARLY THAT THERE WOULD BE AT THE EQUIPMENT, WITHIN 10 FEET OF EQUIPMENT, THE DECIBEL READING WOULD BE 40 DECIBELS.
AT THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS THE OTHER SIDE OF DITCH 10, SHE SAID THE SOUND WOULD BE ALMOST IMPERCEPTIBLE.
SHE SAID AT THE HOUSES, IT WOULD BE LIKE RAIN DROPS ON THE WINDOW, AND IT'S NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT.
WHEN SHE SAID 40 DECIBELS, I CLUED RIGHT IN.
I LOOKED OVER COUNCIL, SAID, THERE'S A BASELINE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS DONE UNTIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO WHEN I CALLED KYLE AND SAID, THIS THING IS JUST SCREAMING, AND THEY MAY GET 72 DECIBELS.
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I GO, NO, 40 IS THE LIMIT.HE SAID, NO, COUNCIL DIDN'T PUT A LIMIT ON.
THEY SAID THEY CAN RUN IT AS WELL AS THEY WANT.
IT'S LIKE THIS WHOLE THING WAS A COLLUSION WITH THEM.
THEY WANTED THE PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS NOT NEAR WHAT THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE.
THEY DID EVERYTHING THE BATTERY PARK ASKED FOR.
THERE WAS NOTHING TOWARD, YOU HEAR ALL THESE PEOPLE, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE HOMES.
NOBODY CAME UP AND SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT YOUR HOMES BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE FIRST.
I JUST DEVELOPED SECTION 6 OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WAS JUST INSULTING THAT WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER ANYTHING OTHER THAN PROPERTY TAX.
LIKE ONE STREET OF MINE COVERS MORE PROPERTY TAX A YEAR THAN THAT BATTERY PARK.
WELL, WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED, TESLA RAN IT, AND MICHAEL GRABBED STEM WITH TESLA AND HE AND I WOULD COMMUNICATE.
I'D TELL HIM, HEY, THERE'S A PROBLEM.
HE WOULD CALL BECAUSE MOST OF IT IS REMOTE.
USE IT WITHIN AN HOUR, THEY TURN IT DOWN.
THIS COMPANY IS VERY ARROGANT.
WE HAD ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SENT HIM A LETTER ASKING THEM ABOUT THE NOISE.
THEY RESPONDED THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE AND COMPLAINED TO THE CITY BASICALLY, IN WHICH THEY DON'T CARE.
THEY HAVE NO CARE FOR WHAT THEY CREATED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S LIKE WE'RE FIGHTING THEM.
FOR ME, IT WAS LIKE I FOUGHT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL WAS PROBABLY THE WORST DECISION THEY MADE IN A LONG TIME IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I HATE THAT, BECAUSE I LOVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I SERVED 55 YEARS CUMULATIVE FOR THE CITY.
I BUILT MORE DEVELOPMENT THAN ANYBODY.
I DID A LOT IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS A DONE DEAL.
WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE TAKE LEGAL ACTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE GO TO PUC, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING.
BUT WHEN COUNCIL SAYS, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIMIT THEIR NORMS. COUNCIL SAID, YOU CAN BE HERE, NOT HERE.
EVERYTHING THEY DID, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IT MAKES NO SENSE WHY COUNSEL DID THAT.
WHO IN THE COUNSEL BENEFIT FROM THIS OR WAS IT REALLY IGNORANCE? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THEY NEED SOME HELP, AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKE COUNCIL IS THE WORST ENEMY.
YOU GUYS ARE A DIFFERENT GROUP OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
BUT ALL THOSE WHO WERE PART OF THIS AND THE ONES, A COUPLE OF THEM THAT WERE KEYS, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T AND YOU LISTENED.
BUT THE ONE WHO SAT IN YOUR CHAIR, RIGHT AFTER IT GOT ANNOUNCED, HE WENT AROUND SAYING, ANGLETON'S ON THE MAP NOW.
IT WAS LIKE, THEIR DEAL WAS TO GET PUBLICITY.
IT WASN'T ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WERE COMPLICIT IN THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW THE SOLUTION, BUT THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.
THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK, AND I TOLD YOU THIS MORNING, IF YOU SAW THE EMAIL ABOUT THE FIRE.
I JUST SENT IT TO YOU AND I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR YEARS.
BUT THERE HAS TO BE A SOLUTION.
THESE PEOPLE CAN'T LOSE THEIR HOMES, CAN'T DO THIS.
THEY BOUGHT A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN THIS WAS THRUST UPON THEM.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT NOW.
AS I TOLD YOU, I THINK ONE SOLUTION WE GET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED A WHOLE LOT IN GROUND ZERO.
ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS, ALL THE NEIGHBORS, WESTERN AVENUE, ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN HERITAGE OAKS, ALL THE ONES TOGETHER, COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, GET TOGETHER WITH CHANNEL 2 NEWS REPORTER, GET TOGETHER AND GO DOWN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
ONE THING, IF WE CAN'T STOP IT, THEY CAN PUT IT OUT TO OTHER CITIES, THAT BATTERY PARKS ARE A BAD THING TO HAVE IN YOUR AREA.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS TO OUR CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT WASN'T.
MAYBE WE CAN HELP SOMETHING, BUT IF NOT, THEY CAN INVESTIGATE, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, AND DO A STORY ON IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE FOR A WHILE, TESLA WAS A BIG DEAL, BUT TESLA NOW IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND DEPENDING WHICH WAY YOU LEAN, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT STORY.
THEY WERE PUT IN A BAD POSITION.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING, BUT IT WAS LIKE FIGHTING CITY HALL THING THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, JUST HOW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> YOU SAID IT'S CHANGED HANDS. WHO IS THE CURRENT OWNER?
>> THE CURRENT WHAT NOW? I'M SORRY.
>> IS IT STILL GAMBIT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WAS TESLA, PLUS POWER, THEN GAMBIT.
>> PLUS POWER IS THE PROJECT DEVELOPER.
THE GUY HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, MOLLY AND THE OTHERS, THEY WERE WITH PLUS POWER.
MICHAEL GRABSTIN, I BELIEVE, WAS WITH TESLA.
THERE IS A HOLDING COMPANY GAMBIT ENERGY, LLC, WHO SHOWS UP ON THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
>> BUT THAT'S A WHOLLY OWNED COMPANY OF PLUS POWER.
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>> ERIC, IS THERE ANY CHANCES THE FREQUENCY LEVEL OF THE NOISE, NOT THE VOLUME, BUT THE FREQUENCY CAN BE DANGEROUS?
>> DANGEROUS? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THE PARTICULAR FREQUENCY, WHICH I'VE MEASURED IS 372 HERTZ IS PARTICULARLY OBNOXIOUS.
THE SOUND WALL DID BLOCK OUT SOME OF THE FREQUENCIES, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO DO A DAMN THING FOR THAT.
>> NOT FOR ALL RESIDENTS. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT IT'S PARTICULARLY OBNOXIOUS.
I HEAR IT IN THE MORNING, I HEAR IT AT NIGHT. IT'S AWFUL.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS THAT I'VE HAD.
I DROVE OVER THERE AND I LISTENED TO IT, AND I AGREE THAT THE NOISE IS HORRIBLE.
I LIVE BY THE RAILROAD TRACK, BUT I'VE ALWAYS LIVED BY THE RAILROAD TRACK.
BOUGHT MY HOUSE, KNOWING THAT RAILROAD TRACK IS THERE.
>> HELLO, THAT'S GOTTEN WORSE, TOO.
>> THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS FROM WESTERN AVENUE, ESPECIALLY, IN THE WINTER AND THE FALL MONTHS WHEN THE WIND'S BLOWING OUT OF THE NORTH?
>> I'LL TELL YOU THIS. I WAS OVER AT MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE ON WESTERN AND I DIDN'T NOTICE IT, BUT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WASN'T OCCURRING.
I'LL PROBABLY SWING BY AND PAY SOME OF YOU A VISIT.
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE A FRIEND THAT LIVES ON WESTERN AVENUE, AND I DID REACH OUT AND ASK HER ABOUT THIS.
SHE LIVES IN THE CENTER PART, AND SHE SAID THAT SHE DOESN'T HEAR AS MUCH, BUT TOWARDS THE WESTERN PART TOWARDS HERITAGE OAKS, IT'S COMPLAINED ABOUT QUITE A BIT ON THEIR FACEBOOK GROUP ABOUT THE NOISE AS WELL.
>> HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS OF WESTERN AVE?
>> I'VE KNOCKED ON DOORS AND NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH ANYBODY ANSWERING THE DOOR.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THERE.
>> IT WAS BEING BUILT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I TALKED TO THREE DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS MAYBE SIX WEEKS AGO.
ONE OLDER LADY, SHE SAID SHE CAN'T ENJOY BACK PORCH, JUST LIKE STEPHANIE SAID.
SHE SAID IN HER HOUSE, SHE CAN'T WATCH TV BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE]
>> I EXPECTED THAT I WOULD HAVE HEARD FROM ALREADY.
>> SHE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE TRUCK. SHE SAID THEY'RE STILL DRIVING.
THEN A NEIGHBOR CAME OVER AND I TALKED TO HIM.
HE SAID, MIDDLE NIGHT, HE CANNOT SLEEP BECAUSE IT'S HORRIBLE.
THEY'RE THERE, RIGHT THERE, THEY DIDN'T DESERVE THAT.
I TALKED TO ONE GUY, MARK BOULEVARD.
HE SAID, YOU DID ANYTHING TO DO THAT. I SAID, NO.
I SAID, WELL, WE COULDN'T STOP IT.
HE SAID, WHO CAN WE TALK TO? HE SAID, WE NEED HELP. HE SAID, NOBODY LISTENS TO THEM.
THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME COURSE.
HE SAID HE COMPLAIN, NOBODY LISTENS.
THEY SAID THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT NOISE.
[INAUDIBLE] AND I SAID, NO, I SAID IT'S NOT RIGHT.
IF THEY'RE DING HERE, BUT JUST LIKE PLUS POWER SAID, WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH A BARBECUE, I DIDN'T GO TO IT, TRIED TO HAVE THE GAMBIT, [INAUDIBLE] CAME DOWN HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THEY SAID THOSE PEOPLE DID RESPOND.
THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A VOICE.
ANYWAY, I TALKED TO SEVERAL AND I SAID, WELL, IF WE PUT A SIGN IN FRONT OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SAYING, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, CALL ME.
I WANTED MY PHONE NUMBER AND TEXT OR EMAIL.
I SAID, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BATTERY PARK, AND EACH ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS TALKED AND SAID, YES, THEY WILL.
>> AND ONE MORE THING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DEVELOPER, WHEN THIS WAS ALL PROPOSED, WE WENT TO THE TOWN HALLS, EVERYTHING.
THERE WAS A FLAT FOR THE PROJECT, WHERE WAS THE [INAUDIBLE].
WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
IT WAS NOT THE FLAT WE AGREED TO.
EVERYTHING YOU DID AND THROUGH THE LIGHT POWER ON THIS PERSON'S HEADS.
>> AND THROUGH NOISE CHANNEL RIGHT DOWN THERE.
IT CHANGED EVERYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED.
IF I WAS TO COME TO YOU AND I'M DOING A NEW SUBDIVISION, I'M GOING TO PUT THE STREET IN THIS WAKE.
YOU COME OUT THERE, I'M DOING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT, YOU ALWAYS STOPPING ME.
AND THEN I REPORTED TO THE CITY AT THE TIME, THEY GO, THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO, AND I SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY ELSE WHO WAS PART OF THIS.
THAT'S AGAINST YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCE.
WHAT YOU CAN DO IS ILLEGAL WHAT THEY DID.
COUNCIL APPROVED. THEY WERE IN A HURRY TO GET IT APPROVED.
>> IN THE AGENDA PACKET, IT HAS AN UPDATE FROM A LEGAL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT NOW?
>> SURE. MORE YOU NEED BULLETS.
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WE NEED ONE IN JULY OR AUGUST.WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT IT IS AS LOUD AS ALL THE GOOD CITIZENS SAY THERE ARE.
ONCE WE HAVE SOME BULLETS, WE CAN GO TO WAR WITH GAMBIT AND THE ULTIMATE REMEDY IS THE REVOCATION OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THAT WILL INVOKE A LAWSUIT OR PROVOKE A LAWSUIT.
BECAUSE OF THEIR INVESTMENT BACKED EXPECTATIONS AND ALL THE MONEY THEY PUT IN A $30,000,000 INVESTMENT.
BUT ENFORCING WHAT THEY AGREED TO IS SOMETHING THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE DONE.
IF THEY'RE STILL VISIBLE FROM WHATEVER ANGLE, WEST, EAST, WHEREVER IT WAS, IF IT'S STILL VISIBLE, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THIS COUNCIL OR THE A COUNCIL APPROVED FROM THE P&Z.
>> AND THEN THE NOISE IS A HARDER ONE.
BUT IF WE HAVE PROOF, AND I FEEL LIKE I'M JOE FRIDAY, JUST THE FACTS BOUND, BUT IF WE HAVE PROOF, THEN IF WE NEED TO GO INTO COURT, WE CAN GO INTO COURT.
BUT I'D RATHER GO IN AS A PLAINTIFF THAN AS A DEFENDANT.
I'M REPEATING MYSELF, IF WE CAN GET PROOF THAT THE NOISE IS ABOVE WHAT THEY PROMISED IT WOULD BE, AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT IN THE MEMO WHEN YOU CALLED TO ME, WHETHER IT'S 40 DECIBELS OR 50 DECIBELS.
TO ME, IT ALL SEEMS TO BE THE FAN.
I GREW UP AROUND OIL AND GAS, AND I'VE SEEN THOSE GIANT COMPRESSOR FANS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THEM BEING LOUD.
IS NOT THE HIGH PITCHED THESE LITTLE FANS DO.
>> THEY WEREN'T REALLY HIGH SPEED.
THEY WERE LARGE AND THEY MOVED A LARGE VOLUME OF THEIR.
>> MY QUESTION, JUST CURIOSITY MORE THAN ANYTHING, IS THERE A BETTER FAN YOU CAN INSTALL? AND THIS WOULD BE GAMBITS ISSUE.
>> YEAH, I THINK THIS IS ALL GAMBITS ISSUE OF BASICALLY THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING INSIDE THERE, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CHRIS POINTED OUT WAS, AND I'VE SAID IT ALL ALL ALONG IS, WHAT WAS AGREED TO IN THE SUP AT THE TIME, A LOT OF THAT HAS JUST BEEN IGNORED OR THROWN TO THE SIDE.
WE HAD TO REMIND THEM OF THE FENCE AND THE BARRIER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.
THEN TO SAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED PUTTING IT ALL THE WAY AROUND, THEY DIDN'T PUT ALL THE GREENERY, THEY DID NOT EXECUTE ON ALL THE THINGS.
I REMEMBER THIS COUNCIL SITTING HERE AND THERE WERE SOME PROPONENTS DEFINITELY PUSHING IT.
BUT I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY, WE WENT AT LENGTH OF ALL THE THINGS WE WERE TRYING TO DO TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE TO THE RESIDENTS.
THEY SIGNED OFF SAYING THEY WOULD DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
>> BUT WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
>> AND THEN JUST TO HEAR THAT THE LIGHT'S SHINING ON HER HOUSE AND THEY CAN SEE THE AREA, YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SEE IT AT ALL.
AND THEN THERE'S A BERM ON ONE SIDE, BUT THERE'S NOT A BERM TO THE OTHER SIDES, AND THEY WERE USING WEST LIVE OAK, WHICH THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USING, AND I'VE BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USING MURRAY RANCH ROAD BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE SAID, YOU WERE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE RESIDENTS ON WEST LIVE OAK AND MARSHAL BY PUTTING HEAVY TRUCKS AND TRAFFIC DOWN THAT ROAD.
HERE, THAT'S STILL THE MAIN ENTRANCE IN SOME CASES.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE STIPULATED ARE NOT BEING FOLLOWED.
>> AM INCORRECT IN THINKING THAT THE BERM IS LOCATED ON THE WESTERN AVENUE SIDE?
>> THEY GOT IT TO WHAT? TEN OR 12 FOOT ON THREE SIDES ON THE WEST SIDE.
>> BUT ON THE ON THE WESTERN AVENUE SIDE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BATTERY COMPLEX, THERE IS A BERM ON THAT SIDE.
>> THERE'S A MORE RECENT PICTURE YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE WHEN YOU SCROLLED DOWN FROM THIS.
I BELIEVE IT HAS A MORE UP TO DATE BECAUSE I SEE THAT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER.
>> IT'S NOT A [OVERLAPPING] IT'S NOTHING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DO YOU REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] WAS TALKING ABOUT [OVERLAPPING] ONE FOURTH OF THEIR TALK TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS [INAUDIBLE].
>> YEAH, SHE'S GOT A BETTER PICTURE. A LITTLE BIT RIGHT.
>> MR. RANDALL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO CONSIDERING THAT THIS BATTERY IS FUNCTIONING AS AN ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANT,
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THEY'RE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, THEY'RE PERFORMING MARKET OPERATIONS, THEY'RE MAKING MONEY BY BUYING ENERGY WHEN IT'S CHEAP, SELLING IT WHEN IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, AND OTHER MARKET SERVICES.WHY IS THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT STILL VALID SINCE THEY ARE ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING AS AN ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANT?
>> I DON'T AGREE THAT THEY ARE AN ELECTRICAL GENERATION PLANT.
THEY'RE NOT A PRIMARY ELECTRICAL GENERATOR.
>> THEY ARE NOT CONVERTING HYDROCARBONS INTO ELECTRICAL POWER, THEY ARE A REVERSIBLE ELECTROCHEMICAL ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY.
SO THEY TAKE POWER IN, AND THEN THEY SELL IT TO THE MARKET JUST LIKE A NORMAL THERMAL GENERATOR WOULD.
>> IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND YOU READ THE MEMO, OBVIOUSLY-.
>> AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE WHOLE ANALYSIS, OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE, COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL.
NO ONE DEFINES AT LEAST TO A LEGAL DEFINITION OF SPECIFICITY, WHAT EXACTLY A ENERGY ELECTRICAL STORAGE SYSTEM IS.
>> WE PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THEM?
>> NO. WE PERMITTED IT, AND WE FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURES, AND I DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT THE MEMO IS WRONG, BUT OF COURSE, I WOULD.
BUT IT'S NOT A GENERATING PLANT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF YOU DON'T FEEL THAT IT FITS INTO THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE TO AMEND THOSE AND TO CLASSIFY IT AS SOMETHING ELSE ALSO.
OTIS CAN PROBABLY DESCRIBE THAT WAY BETTER THAN I CAN.
>> YOU CAN, BUT AGAIN, HOW MUCH MORE TAXES DO YOU WANT TO PAY DEFENDING A LAWSUIT?
>> BUDDY, A LOT OF IT. WE GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS NOW.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THERE'S A BETTER WAY AND THAT IS ENFORCING WHAT YOU'VE GOT AND BRING THEM TO HEAL.
THE NOTION THAT THEIR BOTTOM LINE PEOPLE, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE CHEAPEST PART AND RUN IT THE WAY THEY CAN UNTIL WE START BEING THE SQUEAKY WHEEL.
WHEN WE'RE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL, I BET THEY CHANGE.
IF THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO REVOKE A PERMIT, BUT THAT'S THE NUCLEAR BOMB.
WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT TO DO IS HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY THE LAST RESORT.
>> THERE IS AN INDUSTRY THAT WAS CREATED, CAME UP WHEN BATTERY PARTS STARTED MATERIALIZING EVERYWHERE.
I WAS LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THEM AND THEIR PURPOSE IS TO MUFFLE THE SOUND.
THEY HAVE BIG INSULATED MUFFLER TYPE VEHICLES ON THE FENCE.
THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS THEY DO HAVE.
I'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE SITES THAT WHETHER EFFECTIVE OR NOT, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT I PARKED AND HARPED ON WITH NOISE IN THE FIRE THAT IT WAS NOT A CONCERN.
IT STILL IRRITATES ME THAT OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL DID THIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD [INAUDIBLE].
>> I COULD SPEAK VOLUMES ABOUT THINGS I'M IRRITATED ABOUT TOO, I TOTALLY GET IT.
>> I AGREE. WHILE YOU'RE HERE I UNDERSTANDING IT, BUT THEY SPENT THE MONEY IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY CAME IN, DID EVERYTHING RIGHT.
THE WHOLE TIME, COUNCIL IS CITING [INAUDIBLE].
WE HAD TO HAVE IT. WE NEED THAT MONEY.
THE MONEY IS JUST INSIGNIFICANT [INAUDIBLE].
AND LIKE I SAID, [INAUDIBLE] AROUND HAD THE SAME PROBLEM, THAT THEY CAN'T SPEAK.
>> THEY CAN'T SPEAK? I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM SPEAK.
>> BUT PEOPLE WHO DID IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE]
>> WHO APPROVED THEIR MITIGATION PLAN? THE ONE THAT THEY SAID THEY DID, WHO APPROVED THAT AND SAID, Y'ALL DID WHAT YOU SAID ON THE MITIGATION PLAN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST DISCUSSION ON HOLDING THEM TO ACCOUNT?
>> THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THE WALL.
>> THEY CALLED IT SOUND BARRIER.
>> SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF STATEMENTS AND THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN, SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT'S IN VIOLATION.
I THINK THE OTHER DILEMMA IS WE HAVE A REQUIRED SOUND STUDY EVERY SIX MONTHS.
I THINK OUR INTERVALS PROBABLY NEED TO BE TIMED, WHERE ONE OF THOSE NEEDS TO BE IN THE PEAK SEASON, MEANING JULY WHEN WE HAVE OUR HOTTEST MONTHS.
BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED, I THINK IT STARTED IN SEPTEMBER TO MARCH.
OUR NEXT ONE WILL PROBABLY BE BUT SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.
SO I THINK THAT'S DEFEATING THE PURPOSE.
WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT ADJUSTED.
WE COULD AT LEAST DO THAT BECAUSE AS GRADY SAID,
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WE NEED TO HAVE THE TECHNICAL NUMBERS TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS AT THOSE PEAK TIME.>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THEM CONDUCTING THE SURVEY OF THE SOUND?
>> THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO THAT SOUND STUDY EVERY SIX MONTHS.
I THINK THAT THIS MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY DO THAT.
>> THE CITY IS FREE TO DO ITS OWN SOUND STUFF.
>> BUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY'RE OPERATING THEIR FACILITY, THEN-
>> THEIR FACILITY IS REMOTELY CONTROLLED IF IT'S NOT BEING OPERATED LIKE [INAUDIBLE] IS.
THEY CAN STILL BE ENERGIZED AND THEIR STATE OF CHARGE WILL BE PERFECTLY FLAT AND THEN IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY NOISE WHATSOEVER.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE ARE 65 DISPOSAL ON BACK [INAUDIBLE]
>> OUR BACKGROUND IS ON THE PICTURE.
>> WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED, AND I CAN HEAR IT, AND I'M CLOSER TO LAKESIDE PARK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S A CONSTANT DRAWING TO IDENTIFY A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE RIGHT THERE [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE THE FREQUENCY.
BUT ANYWAY, WHEN THIS FIRST THING OPENED UP, MICHAEL WITH TESLA, HE WAS RESPONSIBLE.
HE WOULD TURN IT DOWN, AND SO WE KNOW IT'S CAPABLE OF BEING TURNED DOWN.
HE WOULD ADJUST THE FANS, HE WOULD DO THE THINGS, [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS LESS PROBLEMATIC.
THIS COMPANY CAME IN, THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT.
>> THEY JUST WANT TO RAMP IT UP [OVERLAPPING] CONSEQUENCES.
THERE'S NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO TO THEM.
THEY FEEL [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD HAVE [INAUDIBLE]
>> THEY DON'T CARE IF THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT.
>> LAST TIME, THEY SAID IT WAS ONLY WHEN THE TEMPERATURES WERE OVER 100 AND THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, THAT'S WHEN THE SOUND, Y'ALL LET THEM GO WHERE WHATEVER THEY CAN DO TO PUT THE POWER INTO THE GRID.
THAT'S WHAT THE AGREEMENT WAS.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY EMERGENCIES AT ALL SINCE.
>> BARREL. SO WE'RE HEARING IT WAY MORE THAN DURING THAT TIME FRAME.
WHEN WE WERE COMPLAINING REALLY BAD, IT WAS TWO WEEKS.
THEY'RE RUNNING IT WAY MORE NOW THAN THEY WERE.
>> HERE'S THE THING. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE CLAIMING THEY'RE DOING.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY RUNNING AND BEING AS PRODUCTIVE AS THEY CAN WITH LITTLE OR NO REGARD FOR THE DECIBEL LEVEL AND HOW THAT'S IMPACTING YOUR COMMUNITY.
BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T GOING TO GET HANDLED WITH EMOTION.
IT'S GOING TO GET HANDLED WITH LEGAL, WITH THIS GROUP AND THAT GUY RIGHT THERE.
WE NEED TO REVIEW THEIR SUP, WE NEED TO REVIEW THEIR AGREEMENT, AND THEN, LIKE GRADY SAID, WE NEED TO START STACKING AMMO CANS.
>> MY QUESTION IS, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE ZONING IF IT WAS RESIDENTIAL OR NON RESIDENTIAL.
AND THERE'S SOUND ORDINANCES, NOISE ORDINANCES WITHIN THE CITY, AND EITHER WAY, RESIDENTIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL, THEY'RE ABOVE WHAT THE SOUND ORDINANCE IS ACCORDING TO THE CODE IN ANGLETON.
[INAUDIBLE] HAD IT PULLED UP, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
IT WAS 65 FOR RESIDENTIAL DURING THE DAY AND 68 FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL.
BUT THIS IS NOT ONLY GOING ON DURING THE DAY, IT'S ALSO DURING NIGHT HOURS.
>> SO THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE.
>> I UNDERSTAND, I'M UPSET FOR YOU. I GET.
>> I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU BEING HERE.
>> AND ALL SPEAKING. I WILL ASK THOUGH THAT SINCE WE'RE NOT TECHNICALLY IN A PUBLIC HEARING, AND EVERYONE THAT HAS ALREADY SPOKEN, WE'VE GOT TO WRAP THIS UP WITH STAFF AND COUNSEL TO TALK.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, REALLY.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM ALL THE CITIZENS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR.
I THINK THE COUNCIL WANTS TO BE RESPONSIVE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS FIXED FOR Y'ALL.
WE WANT TO ENFORCE TO THE STRICTEST ABILITY THAT SUP, AND IF IT HAS TO HAPPEN, THEN THE NUCLEAR OPTION IS REMOVAL.
>> I THINK I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS STILL.
I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEBODY FROM STAFF TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL EXACT WORDING ON THAT SUP.
I WANT EVERY LITTLE PIECE OF IT.
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YOU REVIEW IT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND DID YOU SIGN OFF ON IT?>> IT'S IN THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT NOW.
>> I KNOW BUT I WANT A FULL PRESENTATION ON IT.
I REMEMBER MOLLY, I REMEMBER THE CLAIM WAS, I THINK, $2 MILLION INVESTMENT.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE TAX VALUE IT'S CLASSIFIED AS NATIVE PASTURE FOR $393,000. THAT'S IT.
>> THREE LINE ITEMS THEY HAVE WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
ONE OF THEM IS VALUED AT $30 MILLION.
>> WHICH ISN'T SHOWING UP ON [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU SEARCH THIS UNDER THE OWNER NAME [INAUDIBLE]
>> THERE IS STILL A FRACTION OF WHAT THEY SAID [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT WAS WHAT INDUCED CITY COUNCIL WHO MONEY WE WANTED. IT IS NOT THERE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TOMORROW WHEN IT HITS 100.
>> I ALSO WANT YOU TO REACH OUT, AGAIN, TO PEOPLE.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT CAN THEY DO TO IMPROVE THOSE FANS AND LOWER THAT SOUND.
BECAUSE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PICTURES, YOU CAN SEE THE CONCRETE WALL, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE FANS ARE JUST LIKE RIGHT HERE, THE WALL IS NOT DOING ANYTHING TO STOP THAT FAN.
THEN THE LAYOUT, I REMEMBER US HAVING LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS ON THE LAYOUTS, THAT THE FANS WOULD BE INTERNAL TO THE FACILITY, NOT TO THE WALLS.
I REMEMBER THAT WHOLE DISCUSSION THAT THEY'D BE LYING ON THE INSIDE, SO THEY'D BE BOUNCING OFF OF EACH OTHER, NOT TO THE OUTSIDE GOING OUTSIDE OF THE PART.
AS CHRIS POINTED OUT, IT IS CHANGED.
IT'S NOT THE WAY WE HAD DISCUSSED.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS NOT FOR WHAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION.
I WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH THE MINUTES THAT WERE DISCUSSED BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET PUT INTO THE SUP.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S MY REQUEST, COUNCIL. WHAT DO YOU GOT?
>> MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO INVITE GAMBIT BACK TO COUNCIL.
>> THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR THAT COUNCIL IS PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION, WHAT THAT MEANS.
WELL, I SAY ALWAYS, BUT I GUESS DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR NEGOTIATING STYLES.
SOME PEOPLE WANT TO GO NUCLEAR RIGHT FROM THE JUMP.
OTHERS WANT TO ESCALATE AND GIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MITIGATE BEFORE YOU GO TO NUCLEAR OPTION.
BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS THE HEADING JUST NEEDS TO BE.
WE'RE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION.
THEN HOPEFULLY THAT THEY'LL BE GLADLY INVITED SO WE CAN HAVE A SIT DOWN CONVERSATION WHERE THE VIEWS OF RESIDENTS CAN BE EXPRESSED TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO FURTHER NEGOTIATE.
JOHN IS RIGHT, WE CAN USE THE SUP AS THE STANDARD, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS ELEVATE.
BECAUSE IF WHAT ACTION WE'VE TAKEN IS NOT WORKING, THEN WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO RAISE OR TIGHTEN THE SUP, THE STANDARDS OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO.
BUT THE REALITY IS I'M PROBABLY NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU.
I KNOW THAT WE'LL INVITE THEM HERE AND THEY WILL DRAG THEIR FEET, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WE CAN WORK ON MAKING PROGRESS AND JUST SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US.
WE JUST KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT.
THAT'S ALL YOU DO UNTIL HOPEFULLY YOU GET TO A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE SOMETHING WE CAN LIVE WITH.
>> YOU COULD WRITE CITATIONS DAILY.
>> TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS PER DAY IS WHAT YOUR CODE SPECIFIES.
>> TWO THOUSAND IN EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT INVITING THEM HERE IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT I GET MY DUCKS IN A ROW CARS.
>> LET'S HAVE JOHN'S HEARING AND FURTHER EDUCATE OURSELVES.
WE DO HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS THEM WHEN THEY APPEAR.
I KNOW YOU'D LIKE ACTION SOONER, BUT WE ONLY MEET TWICE A MONTH, AND YOU GET NOTICE PROVISIONS, AND ANYWAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S SET FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY ALL CAN GET BACK THAT INFORMATION TO US.
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I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REASONABLE TO ASK FOR SOMETHING IN TWO WEEKS WHILE WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET.THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT MEETING AND FURTHER DISCUSSION UP HERE ABOUT WHAT ACTION WE CAN TAKE, GET THEM IN THE ROOM, LITERALLY A REPRESENTATIVE AND GO ACT FROM THERE.
>> WE'LL CERTAINLY GET WORKING ON THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IN VIOLATION.
AS YOU STATED, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS IN COMPLIANCE ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE ORDINANCES, THE SITE PLANS, LANDSCAPE PLANS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WE'LL START WORKING IMMEDIATELY ON THAT AND MAYBE PASS THE REPORT TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND POSSIBLY BRING IT TO THE AGENDA ON THE 26TH TO BUDGET, AND WE HAVE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THE 12TH, AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THAT AGENDA TO THE BUDGET.
>> SURE. I UNDERSTAND. BUT [OVERLAPPING] WE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
I THINK IT'S NOT JUST AN EMAIL.
WE WANT TO HAVE WORDS SPOKEN AND SO IF QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED, PERHAPS ANSWERS CAN BE GIVEN OR WE CAN BE RESEARCHED.
>> ARE WE GOOD WITH 26 AUGUST? I THINK IT'S YES, 26TH.
>> YES, SIR. JUST COME TO THE PODIUM.
>> [LAUGHTER] I SUGGEST CITY GET A SOUND SURVEY AND HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE WE RUN RED FLAG THOUGH.
CAN ALL THESE PHONE RECORDINGS, IS THAT LEGAL?
>> YOUR PHONE RECORDING IS NOT REALLY GOING TO GO TO HOLD ANYWAY.
>> THE PHONE RECORDING WOULDN'T CUT IT IN COURT.
THE CITY CAN GET ITS OWN SOUND STUDY, IN FACT, THE CITY HAS RUN SOME STUDIES ON ITS OWN.
BUT THE PROCESS WAS PROPER AND THE SOUND, THE READINGS THERE'S A CONFLICT BECAUSE I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAYING THEY'RE AT WAY OVER WHAT READINGS HOURS THERE.
WE NEED TO GET A GOOD SCIENTIFIC, HARD READINGS.
THAT'S THE HOTTEST PART OF THE DAY.
>> FOR ALL TO COME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME AND DO IT IN OUR BACK YARDS WHERE WE'RE TELLING YOU SOUND IS.
IT NEEDS TO BE MEASURED AT DIFFERENT INTERVALS ALONG THE ROUTE.
>> WELL, THE WAY THE WIND IS BLOWING, TOO, DON'T MEASURE IT WHEN THE WINDS BLOWING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
ANYBODY WITH THE BRAIN CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT THEY'RE TRICKING US ON THAT.
THE WIND IS GOING ONE WAY, AND IT'S LOW TEMPERATURE AND COOL OUTSIDE, THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THEIR FANS, AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR SOUND STUDY AND SAYING, EVERYTHING IS FINE.
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS ASK THEM TO GIVE US ALL THAT INFORMATION.
>> THEN WE CAN SEE IF THEY'RE DUPING US OR NOT.
>> BUT AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST 100 DEGREE DAY TOMORROW OFFICIALLY, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG, HOT, LOUD SUMMER.
I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE AND GET AN INJUNCTION AGAINST THEM OR WHATEVER IT IS, THE REMEDY IS BECAUSE IT TAKES WE EITHER GO OUT THERE AND FIGHT OR WE CAN WIN THE BATTLE, AND I'D RATHER WIN THE BATTLE.
YOU GOT TO HAVE YOUR BULLETS FAST.
>> WE'RE SHORT RADAR VOICES, BUT THE NOISE IS SO LOUD WE HAVE TO [LAUGHTER].
>> BRING MY SWIMMING SUIT FOR APPROVAL.
>> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION ON BECAUSE OF BUDGETARY MOTION TO A SOUND STUDY?
>> IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR AN ACTION.
>> NOT TONIGHT. I DON'T MEAN TONIGHT.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR FUTURE?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ONE CAST.
>> TAKE CARE OF THAT INITIALLY AND THEN COME BACK WHATEVER WE NEED IT.
>> COUNCIL, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM?
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING TONIGHT.
>> THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE ITEM.
>> THE ONLY WAY THINGS WILL CHANGE.
>> YOU GET ICE CREAM AND YOU STAYS.
>> I GET MR. HELPERS EMAILS, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN EVERYONE SHOWS UP.
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MR. PELTIER, CONGRATULATE POLLET ON 59.
>> THANK YOU, ALL. WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
>> HEY, WE STILL ONE MORE ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER 6, UPDATE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON LAND STREET REPAIRS.
[6. Update, discussion and possible action on Wayne Street repairs.]
[BACKGROUND]>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, A RESIDENT BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THE CURRENT CONDITION OF WAYNE DRIVE, AND HE'S IN THE AUDIENCE THERE.
THANKS FOR WAITING AND HANGING OUT WITH US.
WE DID GO BACK AND GET QUOTES ON WHAT IT WOULD COST.
JUST FROM A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WE DID GET THREE BIDS, AS YOU CAN SEE, 98,000, 158,000, 171,000.
WAYNE DRIVE IS APPROXIMATELY THE CITY ON SIDE IS APPROXIMATELY 8,000 FEET.
I APOLOGIZE, I PUT COUNTY OWNERSHIP, BUT THE OTHER PORTION IS PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
AN HDR IS 2023 STREET ASSESSMENT.
IT WAS BASED ON A COST OF 95,000 WHAT THEY ESTIMATED, IT WAS.
ONE OF THE QUOTES WAS PRETTY CLOSE RIGHT AROUND IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S REPLACING 20-30% OF THE BASE AS IT'S RECOMMENDED IS WHAT THE QUOTES WE'RE AFTER.
OVERLAY IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OPTION ON THE STREET. IT'S NOT.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOME TYPE OF FULL REPAIR, AT LEAST WHAT'S RECOMMENDED OR A FULL BASE REPAIR.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD EITHER WITH CONTRACTOR OR WE ALSO HAVE OUR COUNTY INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT OPTION, BUT REMEMBER, GOING TO FULL REPAIRS REDUCES OUR TOTAL AMOUNT TO ONE MILE.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY POPULAR STREETS THAT PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING TO BE DONE.
WE HAVE THE WESTERN AVENUES, TO GIFFORD ROAD, GIFFORD LANE, THOSE.
THAT'S EXTREMELY GOING TO LIMIT WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IF WE DO GO THE ROUTE OF REPAIRING THEM.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A ROAD YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OVERLAY.
I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT ON GIFFORD ROAD AND GIFFORD LANE AS WELL, AND QUITE FRANKLY, WESTERN AVENUE WITH ITS CURRENT CONDITION.
DON'T THINK OVERLAYS ARE GOING TO CUT IT FOR THOSE ROADS EITHER.
MY OVERALL SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO GO THE COUNTY AND OUR LOCAL OPTION, BUT TO GO FOR FULL REPAIRS, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TRY TO CONTINUE THAT ROUTE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ASPHALT ROADS WERE OVERLAYING, THEY'RE FAILING PRETTY QUICKLY, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REPAIRING THE BASE.
WE'RE JUST REMOVING A TOP LAYER AND PUTTING A NEW LAYER ON AND THE BASE IS WHAT THE ISSUE IS IN A LOT OF THEM.
>> DID YOU TALK TO UNION PACIFIC ABOUT THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOT YET. I WAS JUST WAITING TO SEE WHERE THIS WAS GOING TO GO AND I WAS GOING TO HOLD THESE CONVERSATION.
>> YES. THEY HAVE TO FIX WHAT'S IN THEIR RIGHT AWAY.
>> IT IS. WELL, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE TO STOP.
IT'S BROKEN UP ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
NORMALLY, YOU CAN SEE WHERE CITY MAINTENANCE IS, AND COUNTY MAINTENANCE, YOU COULDN'T TELL.
>> WE HAVE TO DO SOME DRAINAGE WORK OVER THERE, TOO, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A UP CONVERSATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY ENDS, WHERE OURS STARTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OUR DITCH TO MAINTAIN OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW.
ONCE WE FIND ALL THAT, WE CAN EITHER GO IN THERE AND REGRADE IT OR POSSIBLY THE UNION PACIFIC WILL.
>> TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND, SIX HUNDRED, THAT'S PART OF IT?
>> THAT WAS WHAT WAS THE QUOTE GIVEN IN THE 2017 STREET CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
IT'S GONE 27,000-95,000 IN FIVE YEARS.
>> JUST TO FURTHER THAT POINT, IN 2017, IN THESE STREET ASSESSMENTS, IT'S BASED ON A GRADE OF 1-9, NINE BEING THE HIGHEST, WHICH, LIKE, THE STREETS WE JUST REDID, RIDGECREST, ALL THOSE STREETS LIKE THAT ARE NINES NOW, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE'VE INCREASED OUR TOTAL OF NINES FROM 2017-2023, BUT THE PROBLEM IS OUR SEVENS AND EIGHTS HAVE REDUCED, AND OUR 3, 04, 5, 6S HAVE INCREASED, WHICH MEANS OUR STREETS ARE SLOWLY FAILING BECAUSE THE ONLY FUNDING WE'RE PUTTING UP IS FOR OVERLAYS.
WE'RE NOT RESEALING THESE CONCRETE STREETS.
THE NINES WE HAVE IN FIVE YEARS WITHOUT ANY MAINTENANCE, ARE GOING TO BECOME EIGHTS AND SLOWLY SEVENS AND SIXES, BECAUSE ALL WE'RE DOING IS OVERLAYING ASPHALT ROADS.
>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A HOSPITAL ROAD AS WELL.
[03:00:04]
I'VE BROUGHT THIS QUESTION UP TO YOU BEFORE.WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADS THAT ARE FALLING.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET MORE FROM THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO START REPAIRING THESE ROADS.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES.
YOU BROUGHT IT UP AS EQUIPMENT ONCE BEFORE. IT'S IN YOUR CIP?
>> YES. THE PATCHER WE'VE ACQUIRED, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US MAINTAIN ROADS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT IS A LOT OF LIKE THIS WAYNE DRIVE, FOR INSTANCE, IT'S NOT MAINTAINABLE.
WESTERN AVENUE, IT'S BECOME WHERE IT'S NOT MAINTAINABLE.
WE'RE PUTTING ASPHALT IN, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ASPHALT WE PUT IN THERE, IT'S GOING TO SMASH OUT AGAIN.
IT'S JUST THE BASE HAS GONE IN THESE ROADS.
>> BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT US DEVELOPING THE TOOLS IN THE KNOW HOW TO REPAIR THE BASE.
>> THAT WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL CREWS AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
I DON'T HAVE A COST ON ANY OF THAT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
>> I THINK THAT NEEDS TO COME TO BUDGET.
IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE ACTION.
>> I DO KNOW THAT JUST IN THE PAST, THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF, I KNOW IT CAME FROM THE TAX RATE, BUT IT WAS SOME TYPE OF STREET FUND THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEEDS TO COME BACK.
>> THE CITIZENS HADN'T VOTED TO TAKE IT AWAY.
WE'D BE IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONLY FOR STREETS.
>> THAT TAKES PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE.
YOU CAN LITERALLY TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH OUR MONEY, AND THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S THE CITIZENS THEY VOTE FOR.
BUT THE PEOPLE SITTING UP HERE HAVE TO SHOW DISCIPLINE ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.
>> JUST SAYING, JOHN, SO IF WE WANTED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT ATTACKING ROADS, WE WOULD START DOING IT, AND WE HAVE IT.
THE MONIES IS STILL THE SAME MONEY.
>> STILL TIED UP IN OTHER AREAS OF THE GENERAL FUND.
>> WE START REARRANGING HOW IT'S TIED UP IN THE GENERAL FUND.
>> I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU WANT TO ATTACK ROADS, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING TO STRONGLY CONSIDER, THEN YOU START REARRANGING WHERE SOME OF THAT FUND GOES.
>> ALSO TO MENTION TOO THAT OVERLAYS WERE PART OF THE CUTS WE MADE IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE UP ON THAT NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT TOO.
>> I'M NOT SURE IF YOU NEED TO DOUBLE IT UP.
>> WELL, WE MAY SKIP A YEAR OF THEM HOWEVER IT PROCEEDS, BUT WE'RE PHYSICALLY CUTTING OUT.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE ROWS THAT WE JUST TOOK OUT UNTIL OCTOBER.
>> THEY TYPICALLY START IN SEPTEMBER.
>> I'M SURE SUSY HAS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT.
>> RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THIS?
>> NO. WE MADE CUTS IN OUR BUDGET AND MAINTENANCE AND OTHER AREAS.
>> DO YOU HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE PATCHER TO DO ANY WORK OVER THERE?
>> NO. AGAIN, THAT PATCHER IS FOR REPAIRS.
IT'S NOT FOR FULL BLOWN REPLACEMENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
>> I'M NOT ASKING FOR [INAUDIBLE] I'M ASKING FOR A PATCHER.
>> TO BUY SOMETHING TO FIX THAT ROAD?
THEY'VE GOT POTHOLES. CARS ARE JUST FALLING OFF.
IS THERE SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN MAKE SOME SPOT REPAIRS IN THE WORST SPOTS, MEANING THAT WE CAN DIG DOWN AND REALLY PACK SOME GRAVEL IN THERE AND LAY SOME MASS.
WE CAN MAKE SMALL SPOT REPAIRS LIKE THAT.
>> THAT'S ABOUT TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS AT THE MOST, AND IT'S GONE.
>> RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET.
>> I THINK HE DOES, IT'S A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
>> WHILE YOU HAVE TIME TO FIGURE OUT BUDGETING AND PLANNING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO THIS TYPE OF REPAIR, THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO TEMPORARILY TO AT LEAST MAKE IT SOMEWHAT DRIVABLE? WE'D GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> YOU'VE FILLED OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHOW UP AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WAS BASICALLY WAITING TO SEE WHAT YOU GOT.
>> GO AHEAD. COME ON UP. WAITED THIS WHOLE NIGHT.
>> WE'RE ALWAYS AT THE END. [LAUGHTER]
[03:05:01]
>> I REALLY DON'T KNOW MUCH WHAT TO SAY.
GREG HARFORD LIVE AT 1312 WAYNE STREET. THANKS FOR HAVING US.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AT THE LAST ONE THAT WE INTENDED ON WHERE IT WAS AND TAKING THIS PRETTY QUICK ACTION.
BUT I'VE HEARD YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT BUDGETING AND PLANNING, AND I UNDERSTAND THINGS TAKE TIME TO HAPPEN, AND THAT'S OKAY.
IF YOU'RE WILLING TO OFFER A TEMPORARY SOLUTION JUST TO GET US BY, BUY SOME TIME, SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE THINGS TO DISCUSS OR TO PLAN OUT, AS FAR AS HOW TO BE PAID FOR OR WHO WOULD DO THE WORK OR WHATEVER.
BASICALLY, ANYTHING WOULD HELP AT THIS POINT.
>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> WE'VE HAD SOME BUDGET ISSUES.
THIS IS SOME STUFF THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GET ROLLED INTO OUR OVERALL PLAN.
>> I UNDERSTAND. IT TOOK A LONG TIME FOR THE ROAD TO GET THIS WAY.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO GET SOMETHING DONE TO FIX IT.
>> HECTOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
WHERE'S THE EDGE OF OUR PROPERTY OR OUR RESPONSIBILITY?
>> THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DRIVEWAY?
>> YEAH. JUST KEEP YOU TRAVELING ALL THE WAY DOWN.
I THINK IT'S THE LAST THREE PROPERTIES, CORRECT, IS WHERE THE PRIVATE PARK STARTS? LAST THREE PROPERTIES.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. GO AHEAD.
>> IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT THIS.
I THINK THE SECTION OF THE ROAD FROM WHERE, YOU COME OVER THE RAILROAD CROSSING AND SPLITS.
IT LOOKS LIKE TO THE RIGHT TO THE NORTH HAS BEEN MAINTAINED AT SOME POINT TO SOME EXTENT.
AS YOU TURN TO THE LEFT, I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 250 FEET.
THAT ENTIRE ROAD IS ABOUT 600.
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET WILL PICK YOU RIGHT UP TO HER DRIVEWAY ESSENTIALLY.
>> I'VE BEEN TO THE COUNTY [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] ASPHALT IS WHERE THEY ALL ACTUALLY DID IT IN THE BEGINNING.
THE ASPHALT GOES TO RIGHT THERE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT TREE SHOT UP GOES, THAT'S WHERE THE ASPHALT IS.
>> SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
THE ROAD IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IS PRIVATE, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER OF THE CITY OF COUNTY.
>> ARE YOU FURTHER DOWN THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE OR DO YOU COME OFF? BECAUSE THERE'S THAT ROAD THAT COMES OFF FROM THE SIDE OVER HERE AND GOES DOWN.
>> WHICH I LIVE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF IT.
THEN THE RENTA RIA FAMILY LIVES JUST SOUTH OF THE ROAD.
AT THE VERY END, THERE'S SOME PROPERTY PEOPLE RENT TO KEEP HORSES THERE.
I GUESS THE AFFECTED ZONE THAT WOULDN'T BE IN THE CITY, REALLY THE ROAD IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE TOO.
IT'S REALLY THE ROAD UP TOO, I THINK YOUR PROPERTY IS THE CITY.
WHICH IS THE WORST PART OF THE ROAD.
>> THAT'S WHEN YOU GET INTO DISCREPANCIES, WHOSE WHOSE AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO ONE WANT EIGHT LANES, ANYTHING.
WE HAVE CITY WATER WHERE I'M AT.
>> WE HAVE CITY WATER. WE'RE ON SEPTIC. THERE'S A UTILITY EASEMENT THERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME AND DONE LIKE RIVER RUN FIBER OPTIC OR WHATEVER DOWN THERE.
YET NO ONE WANTS TO CLAIM RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT COMES BACK AS A PRIVATE ROAD BEYOND THAT.
>> CAN YOU ALL GO BACK TO THE PICTURE THAT WAS UP THERE A MINUTE AGO? HECTOR, THIS AREA RIGHT THROUGH HERE, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE SOMETHING OUT IN THE MEANTIME.
WHAT DOES IT COST JUST TO MILL IT RIGHT NOW?
>> JUST TO MILL AND OVERLAY THAT SECTION?
>> TO WHAT? TO THE BASE UNDER OR?
>> THE COUNTY, THE COST THEY SENT US LAST YEAR JUST FOR RENTING THE MILLING MACHINE WAS $13,000 A DAY, I THINK, FOR THE MILLING MACHINE. IT'S LIKE RENT ONE.
>> IT WOULD TAKE LESS THAN A DAY TO DO THAT, BUT I'M SURE THEY'D CHARGE US FOR A FULL DAY, SO MAYBE $15,000 JUST RENTING THE MACHINE.
WE CAN MILL IT DOWN. IT'S NO TELLING WHAT'S UNDER THERE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME GRAVEL, IT MIGHT JUST BE MUD, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT ROAD'S IN BAD SHAPE, IS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT VERY GOOD DRAINAGE THERE.
>> IF YOU MILL IT, IT'LL PROBABLY JUST BE A MUD BIT.
>> IF YOU MILLED IT, YOU JUST TOOK SOME CLICHE DOWN AND PACKED IT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S AT THE VERY END OF THIS ROAD.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO TAKE SOME ACTION OVER HERE IN THE MEANTIME.
[03:10:03]
I DON'T WANT TO RAISE MONEY BECAUSE THEN IT WILL BE MILLED.>> IT WOULDN'T BE THE PERMANENT FIX.
>> HAVE THEM FIX ALL THE POTHOLES.
>> POTENTIALLY TEMPORARILY THOUGH AND VERY TEMPORARILY.
>> UNTIL THAT TRASH TRACK GOES DOWN ABOUT A YEAR.
>> YEAH, THERE'S THREE OF THEM A WEEK GOING DOWN PLUS THE MAIL DELIVERY TRUCKS, ALL THAT.
A QUESTION I HAVE IS IF THE CITY GETS THE EQUIPMENT AND COMES OUT AND DOES THE PORTION OF THE ROAD THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT I AS A CITIZEN CAN CONTRACT THAT SAME EQUIPMENT TO CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD, LIKE PAY A PART OF THAT FEE OR.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN?
>> IS THAT POSSIBLE, GRADY, AND INTERLOCAL WITH A CITIZEN IN A CITY WHERE HE PAID FOR CONTRACT LABOR? [LAUGHTER]
>> INTERLOCAL IS BETWEEN GOVERNMENTS.
>> IT HAD TO BE A PRIVATE CONTRACT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] PAID RIGHT THERE TOO.
>> THAT'S DOWN. THAT'S RIGHT AT THE END ROAD.
>> SEE, THAT'S GOT A PAVEMENT THERE TOO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE. THAT'S HOW FAR IT'S PAVED.
>> WELL, THAT'S SOME OF THE CONCRETE PASS THERE.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE S POND.
>> OUR GIS SYSTEM HAS IT OVERLAID WHERE THE CITY LIMITS END AT ON OURS AND THAT'S WHERE I MEASURE THE ROAD AND AT IT'S 1,000 FEET FROM ONE END.
APPROXIMATELY, THAT IT'S LIKE 997 FEET FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.
>> ARE WE IN THE CITY LIMITS OR NOT?
>> TO THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S JUST ADJACENT TO THIS.
THE REST OF THE ROAD FINISHES OUT AS PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
>> HE WANTS TO PAY THE PRIVATE OWNERSHIP?
>> THE CITY CAN'T DO IT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M ASKING THE CITY TO DO.
>> THIS IS WHERE I HAD SOME ISSUE BEFORE BECAUSE I'D COME UP AND ASKED YOU, NOW DO THIS.
HEY, WE DON'T DEAL WITH THAT PART OF THE ROAD.
IT WAS LIKE, SO YOU'RE JUST TELLING ME THAT I CAN JUST TEAR THE ROAD UP AND YOU DON'T CARE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS? THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
CAN YOU FIX IT, PLEASE? WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
I JUST GO TO THE COUNTY AND TALK TO THEM.
I DID ALL THIS RUN AROUND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
[INAUDIBLE] GAVE UP FOR A WHILE UNTIL IT GOT BAD ENOUGH.
I'M AT A POINT WHERE LIKE, WHO WANTS TO SPEND MONEY ON A PRIVATE ROAD? NO ME, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO.
BUT I'M AT A POINT WHERE I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST THE CITY TO DO WHAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THAT WAY I HAVE SOME CLEAR DEFINITION, IF I HIRE SOMEONE I CAN BE LIKE YOU NEED TO DO TO THIS POINT RIGHT HERE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY TO FIX MY PART OF THE ROAD, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DRIVE OVER THE WORST PART OF IT.
[LAUGHTER] IT REMAINS IN THE CITY LIMIT TO.
I'M OKAY, I'M CALM AND I KNOW THINGS TAKE TIME, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY FORWARD.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY THE CITY STREET.
[OVERLAPPING] BEFORE MAY HAVE DONE THAT.
THEY PAID OUT OF THEIR POCKET TO HAVE THE ASPHALT BUT DOWN THERE CURRENTLY, THEY MAY HAVE EXTENDED IT, I DON'T KNOW.
>> [OVERLAPPING] OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET.
>> THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. I THINK JUST THAT STRETCH RIGHT THERE WOULD BE ABOUT $30,000.
>> MAYBE, HECTOR, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT FOR US?
>> I'LL LOOK INTO THE COST OF MILLING IT.
>> THE COST OF WHAT GRAVEL HERE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] GRAVEL OR SOMETHING.
>> YOU POSSIBLY CAN GO [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] FIX MAKE ZERO DIFFERENCE.
IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE, IT'S ALL THE SAME JOB.
THEY WOULD GLADLY WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
>> ANYBODY GOT ANY OTHER IDEAS?
>> NO PROBLEM. WE SEE A ROAD DEGRADING.
THERE'S TWO REASONS BEHIND IT, AGE AND DRAINAGE ARE TYPICALLY THE MAIN CAUSES.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT ABOVE BECAUSE I SEE THAT DRAINAGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DRAINAGE TODAY, IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S PRETTY OVERGROWN AND LOOKS PRETTY BAD.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THEY TREAT IT LIKE IT'S THEIRS, I'LL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> I [INAUDIBLE] THAT AREA THAT'S SOAKED IN WET RIGHT THERE BECAUSE IT NEVER DRIES.
[03:15:05]
I HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO DRY AND THEN I GET OUT THERE MY LITTLE BATTERY OPERATOR [INAUDIBLE] I GOT THREE BATTERIES, AND IT TAKES ME FOREVER, BUT I [INAUDIBLE] IT>> IT NEEDS TO BE REGRADED, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE THE DRAINAGE GOES.
I COULDN'T EVEN TELL THE DAY I WENT OUT THERE.
>> EXACTLY. IT'S OVERGROWING TO THE POINT WHERE WATER CAN'T FLOW THROUGH THERE PROPERLY.
>> ONE MORE THING THAT I'VE GOT.
THE LAST THING, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET OUT HERE.
BUT WE HAD DISCUSSED LAST TIME ABOUT GETTING IN CONTACT WITH UNION PACIFIC ABOUT THAT.
>> GRADE CROSSING. WAS THERE ANY MOVEMENT OR ANY INDICATION ON THAT [INAUDIBLE] THEY MADE AT ANY POINT AT ALL?
>> NO CITY ENGINEER WAS GOING TO REACH OUT TO THEM.
>> YOU'D LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU SOME PHOTO?
>> BELIEVE I HAVE A GOOD CONTACT AT UP.
>> YOU DROVE THE STREET AND DROVE OVER THAT CROSSINGS.
>> I MADE SOME [OVERLAPPING] SPECIFIC WITH THE QUIET.
>> THE OTHER SIDE IS THE WORST ONE.
>> THAT'S NOT EVEN THE ASPHALT AREA.
>> I WAS JUST GLAD I WAS IN MY TRUCK. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> COUNCIL, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.
[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK ON THE BUDGET, AND CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.>> IS THIS A TIME TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO AN EMPLOYEE?
>> I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JOHN.
[LAUGHTER] HE AND HIS SON GATHERED UP SOME USE WOOD AND MADE A SHELVING SPACE AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER FOR AN [INAUDIBLE] OF AUDIT.
THEY WORKED REALLY HARD UP THE HEAT AND EVERYTHING, BUT MADE SOME REALLY NICE SHELVES TO HELP STORE THINGS, SO GOLD STAR FOR HIM.
>> THAT'S GREAT. ANYBODY ELSE?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY OVER THE LAST SINCE MAY, ME AND COUNCILWOMAN SIMMONS HAVE BEEN TO EACH DEPARTMENT SO FAR AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN LETTING US DO THAT.
WE'RE NEW TO THIS, SO JUST TRYING TO TAKE IT ALL IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND GET A FEEL FOR WHAT ACTUALLY IS GOING ON BECAUSE YOU SEE ONE SIDE THEN YOU SEE THE OTHER.
A LOT OF IT'S EYE OPENING SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY AND THEIR TIME AND LETTING US DO IT.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? WE WILL ADJOURN AT 9:19. THANK YOU ALL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.