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>> CALL TO ORDER THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING FOR TODAY,
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
SEPTEMBER 2, 2025, 5:30 P.M.I WILL MAKE A DECLARATION OF A QUORUM.
I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of April 21, 2025, and June 16, 2025.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING OF APRIL 21, 2025 AND JUNE 16, 2025.>> I MOVE DO WE ACCEPT THE MEETINGS.
>> WE HAVE THE MOTION IN PLACE.
>> WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.
CALLING TO ACCEPT THOSE MEETING MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR OF SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.
NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION AND UPDATE ON
[2. Discussion and update on Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation division, and Angleton Recreation Center division YTD financial statements as of August 27, 2025.]
ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, RECREATION DIVISION, AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION YEAR TO DATE, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS OF AUGUST 27, 2025.AND I SEE. MR. MARA AT THE PODIUM. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
>> I SURE DO. THANK YOU, BOARD FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
THIS IS JUST A FINANCIAL UPDATE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE EACH DIVISION UNDERNEATH ABLC LIES.
AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ABLC'S BUDGET, YOU HAVE THE REC FUND, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND THEN 50% THIS YEAR FOR THE PARKS BUDGET.
THIS IS JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHERE THOSE FUND BALANCES CURRENTLY LIE.
AS YOU GO THROUGH THOSE, I'LL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THERE, SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FUND BALANCE IN A MINUTE.
AS YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FUND BALANCES, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT NOT ALL REVENUE AND EXPENSES HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME DISCUSSION ON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THIS GIVES YOU A FINANCIAL UPDATE ON IT.
WE'RE CONTINUE TO TREND WELL FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
WE SHOULD SEE EXCESS OF REVENUE THAT'S COME IN FROM THERE.
WE'VE CONTINUED TO MANAGE OUR EXPENSE AS WELL, BUT ALSO EXCEED OUR REVENUE GOALS, SO THINGS ARE GOING WELL THERE.
SAME THING CAN BE SAID FOR OUR RECREATION DIVISION.
THEY LOOK TO SEE A BUDGET OVER REVENUE AS WELL.
THEY'VE ALREADY HIT THEIR REVENUE GOAL FOR THIS YEAR.
WITH THAT IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THEIR EXPENSES, YOU'LL SEE THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR AS WELL.
ABLC IS ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES.
I WILL SAY THERE IS A CONCERN THERE.
WE PROJECTED TO HAVE A 7% INCREASE ON SALES TAX.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SEEING THAT SALES TAX AT THIS TIME.
SOME OF SOME OF THE PIECES THAT YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR PACKET HERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THE SALES TAX COME IN.
CURRENT BUDGETS, WE ARE PLANNING FOR ABOUT 2.3 MILLION TO COME IN FOR THAT.
WE HAVE SEEN ABOUT 1.6 SO FAR.
WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 660,000 LEFT.
BASED ON CURRENT TRENDS, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT'S LOOKING GOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET THAT 7%.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORTFALL ON THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE UP THAT FUND SOMEWHERE.
ANY SHORTFALLS ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE TYPICALLY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE HAVE A 50% THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED TO THE FUND BALANCE OR TO TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
THAT WAS QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE.
THAT PLAYED AN IMPACT INTO THAT AS WELL.
JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE AND SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE ITEMS. I WILL SAY OUR NEXT BUDGET ITEM IS TALKING ABOUT PROJECTIONS.
THIS IS JUST PROVIDING CURRENT YEAR TO DATE, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SETTING IS.
THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT PROJECTIONS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE FUTURE TOO.
>> WELL, THE ONLY THING I WAS LOOKING AT, JUST GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT THE YEAR TODAY.
THE THINGS THAT I LOOK AT FOR OUTLIERS.
WE SAID THE OUTLIER FOR EXAMPLE MEDICAL EXPENSE AND SAYS YEAR TODAY, PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET IS 133.33, SO IT'S LIKE 33% OVER.
THINGS LIKE THAT, I GUESS, JUST EXPLANATION ON THE WHY SOME OF THOSE ARE LIKE A LITTLE BIT OVER THE 100% OF THE BUDGET.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT?
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PAGE 2, ITEM 2.
JUST EXAMPLES LIKE THAT. I THINK EVERYTHING'S COOL.
BUT SOME THINGS LIKE THAT JUST CATCH YOUR ATTENTION.
IT'S LIKE, PERSONAL SERVICE 506165, MEDICAL EXPENSE 133.
>> PAGE 2, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE,
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WHAT DOES IT SAY IN THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE? THAT'S SQUARE FOOT [OVERLAPPING] 15.YOU MENTIONED HEALTH INSURANCE?
>> WHAT'S THAT MEDICAL EXPENSE?
>> MEDICAL EXPENSE. THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY IS RELATED TO PART TIME STAFF OR MEDICAL EXPENSES FOR DRUG TESTS.
AS DRUG TESTS COSTS CHANGE, DEPENDING ON THE PROVIDER THAT WE HAVE THAT IS CONDUCTING THEM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE.
BUT BASED ON THE 800 OR THE 600 THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR IT, 200 WAS JUST BECAUSE ADDITIONAL STAFF, WE'LL SAY, ONE OF THOSE WAS, I BELIEVE, A PART TIME COUNSELOR THAT QUIT THE FIRST WEEKEND TO CAMP.
THEN WE HAD TO REPLACE, AND IT'S ABOUT $150 PER DRUG TEST.
>> JUST THAT ONE PERSON BECAUSE THEY TYPICALLY DON'T SEE A LOT OF HAVING TO DO A LOT OF DRUG TESTS FOR HIRING FOR THE REC DIVISION, THAT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY ONE FOR THEIRS.
>> BENEATH THE MISCELLANEOUS WHERE IT SAYS VEHICLE INSURANCE.
THAT WAS A BIG JOB FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET TO THE YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL.
>> VEHICLE INSURANCE OR SAY PROPERTY AND VEHICLE INSURANCE IS ONE OF THOSE DIFFICULT ONES.
THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE GET FROM HR, BECAUSE OUR BUDGET STARTS SO EARLY IN THE YEAR, AND THEN WHEN THOSE EXPENSES HIT, NOT UNTIL TYPICALLY AFTER JANUARY 1, THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THOSE REAL NUMBERS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
WE TRY TO RELY ON THEM TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTIONS AND NEXT YEARS, HOW SOME OF THAT HAS FLUCTUATED.
WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WE DO IS WE WILL OFFSET THAT KNOWING THAT WE'RE OVER IN ONE LINE AND WE'LL ADJUST IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDER IN ANOTHER.
IT'S NICE TO SEE ACTUALLY THAT'S ON THE FURTHER DOWN ON PAGE 16 OR 17, THIS PAGE 17, HOW ON THE REVENUES ACTUALLY OVER THE 100%, WE'RE TALKING LIKE FAMILY MEMBERSHIP, AND DAILY ENTRY FEES UP.
THOSE ARE REALLY NICE, POSITIVE THINGS TO SEE THE OPPOSITE END, SO THAT'S GREAT.
>> ANY FURTHER COMMENT, DISCUSSION? NO HEARING ANY. WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 3.
[3. Discussion and update on Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation division, and Angleton Recreation Center division budget projections as of August 27, 2025.]
DISCUSSION AND UPDATE ON ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION RECREATION DIVISION AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION BUDGET PROJECTIONS AS OF AUGUST 27, 2025, AND MR. MARA IS BACK AT THE BUDDING POINT.WE ADDITIONALLY WANTED TO PROVIDE WITH YOU, THIS IS A REQUEST OF ABLC AT OUR LAST MEETING.
IT'S TO SEE WHERE WE WERE TRENDING.
I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAW AS FAR AS YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT BECAUSE THAT WAS TOWARDS THE END OF AUGUST THAT WE RAN THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN OUTLOOK OF WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 28, THIS IS GOING TO START WITH ABLC, AS I MENTIONED, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT VERY LAST COLUMN ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS WHAT OUR ESTIMATE IS TO FINISH THIS YEAR AS FAR AS THOSE TOTALS.
AGAIN, CURRENT TREND IS NOT LOOKING THE GREATEST FOR SALES TAX.
I TRY TO TAKE THE LAST THREE MONTHS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOUNT FOR IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGETS AND WENT BY THAT 7%, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S DOWN.
THAT'S GOING TO HELP US FOR FUTURE FORECASTING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE FUND BALANCE TRANSFER.
THIS IS THE TRANSFER THAT HELPS TO OFFSET THAT 50% THAT WE I DID IN THE MID YEAR TO ADJUST, AS WELL AS THAT SHORTFALL THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS THE REVENUE.
THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT TRANSFER PIECE TO BE ABLE TO HELP BALANCE THAT TO BE ABLE TO, SO YOU TRANSFER OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A WHOLE BUDGET.
THAT'S THE FIRST ONE YOU'LL SEE IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
>> JASON, WHEN YOU SAY TO THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DECEMBER, ARE YOU?
>> NOT DECEMBER, NO. THIS WOULD BE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO THE END OF SEPTEMBER 30.
WE HAVE ABOUT A MONTH LEFT THIS MONTH. GOOD.
>> IT'S GOOD AND BAD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH MORE IN SALES TAX, BUT OUR SPENDING IS START.
[OVERLAPPING] HEARING THE COMPLETION.
>> KEEPING IN MIND THAT SOMETIMES WE OVER RUN THE FINANCIALS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAD A NETWORK HICCUP.
SOME OF THE INFORMATION HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE LOADED IN THERE.
IT MAY NOT CAPTURE EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT I PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK AT THAT WE TRY TO GO THROUGH AND FORECAST WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP TO BE ABLE TO BE ON POINT FOR WHAT THE REST OF THE YEAR LOOKS LIKE.
ON PAGE 29, A COUPLE OF TO POINT OUT HERE, AS YOU'LL SEE, IS ABLC CONTINGENCY.
WE DID REDUCE THIS DOWN TO REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT THAT TRANSFER WOULD BE AS WE DID THE 50%.
WE HAD ORIGINALLY DONE A 50% COST TO PURCHASE
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THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE SMALL PLAY FEATURE FOR THE EDITORIUM.THAT COST THAT WAS ENCUMBERED HERE.
WE ENVISIONED MAKING SURE THAT THAT WAS CAPTURED, AND WE DIDN'T DO ANY OTHER PROJECTS, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ONE.
THEN WE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL THE OTHER ONES AS FAR AS THE TRANSFERS TO GENERAL FUNDS.
THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ABOUT A $400,000 TRANSFER THAT GOT UP TO ALMOST A $700,000 TRANSFER, OUR DEBT SERVICE REC FUND AND THE REC DIVISION FUND.
YOU'LL SEE THOSE BALANCE OF HAVING YOUR FUND BALANCE TRANSFER TO OFFSET THOSE EXPENSES. WE'LL KEEP GOING.
YOU'LL SEE I'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE DIVISION.
AS I MENTIONED, WE PROJECT THEM TO BE ABOUT $5,000 OVER OR THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE, SO THEY HAD A GOOD YEAR.
I WILL SAY SOME OF THE FINANCIAL HURDLES WE HAD LAST YEAR AND THE LENGTH OF WHAT IT TOOK TO GET APPROVAL FOR SOME OF OUR EXTRA PROGRAMS DID IMPACT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN I WAS HOPING FOR, EVEN THOUGH WE HIT OUR GOAL.
THEN, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE COUNSELOR NOT BEING THERE, WERE SEVERELY HURT OUR NUMBER, SO WE COULDN'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE IN SUMMER CAMP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STAY IN WITH THE RATIO.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, HOW WE FEEL THAT THAT CAN CHANGE.
BUT THAT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THERE.
THEY SHOULD SEE ABOUT A $5,000 REVENUE INCREASE, AND THEN IF WE KEEP GOING, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SKIP OVER TO PAGE 33.
YOU NOTICE ON PAGE 33, AT THE BOTTOM OF THERE, YOUR NUMBER ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS WHAT WE PROJECT AS FAR AS EXPENSES GO.
THE NUMBER PRIOR TO THAT IS WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
WE WERE ABOUT $50,000 UNDER EXPECTED EXPENSES.
TRYING TO KEEP THAT SO THEY WILL MEET THE REVENUE GOAL, BUT WE'LL ALSO BE UNDER EXPENSES.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND WITH THIS, WE ACTUALLY USED OUR LEASE FUND TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE OUR TWO VEHICLES, SO WE OWN THE BUS AND A TAHOE NOW.
WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT IN FUTURE BUDGETS.
THAT ALSO TAKES THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
STAFF DID AN AMAZING JOB, STAYING UNDER BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE A, BROUGHT IN REVENUE AND B WERE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAD.
>> NEXT PAGE IS THE REC CENTER.
YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST ONE IS THE REVENUE PIECE OF THAT.
SIMILAR TREND THAT WE SAW HERE.
I WILL SAY IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SHORT.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY PROJECTING TO PULL $100,000 FROM FUND BALANCE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE MAINTAIN A RESERVE OF $100,000 IN THE FUND BALANCE FOR ARC AND REC DIVISION.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE USING THAT BASED ON OUR EXPENSES.
THAT'S WHY I ZERO THAT ONE OUT.
IN REALITY, IT SHOULD BE 1.2750, SO THEY WOULD BE OVER THEIR REVENUE EXPECTATION FOR THIS ONE AS WELL.
IT IS DECEIVING THOUGH BECAUSE THAT $100,000 IS NOT GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE UTILIZING THAT FUNDS.
KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT SAME THING THEY'RE TRENDING UP.
I WILL SAY, THERE WERE SOME AREAS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT TO ADDRESS.
WE DID COME A LITTLE SHORT ON OUR ROOM RENTAL FEES THIS YEAR.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET CREATIVE AND UNDERSTAND WHY THAT HAPPENED AND FIND SOME ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO BRING MORE PEOPLE IN ROOM RENTALS.
THEN MISCELLANEOUS PROGRAMS IS THE ONE FOR SWIM LESSONS.
SAME THING AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, TRYING TO GET THAT PIECE NAVIGATED TO GET IT APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, WHICH THEN PUSHED INTO 3, 4, MONTHS INTO THE YEAR IN THE HIRING FREEZE.
REALLY THREW THAT OFF A LITTLE BIT.
POSITIVE FROM THAT ONE, THOUGH, IS THAT ONE DOESN'T REQUIRE.
IF WE DON'T SPEND IT ON LIFE OR ON INSTRUCTORS, THE REVENUE DOESN'T COMMIT.
YOU'LL SEE THE SAME THING ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.
WE CAN'T SPEND ANY MONEY ON IT BECAUSE THE PROGRAM DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE REALLY GOT PUSHED THIS SUMMER.
THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A SHORTFALL THERE.
BUT OVERALL, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT UP IN OTHER AREAS.
THEN THE REVENUE OR THE EXPENSE SIDE.
SIMILAR, AS I MENTIONED, FROM THE REC DIVISION, IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS WHAT IS EXPECTED COMPARED TO THE REVENUE SIDE IS.
THE EXPECTATION ORIGINAL WAS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION THAT WOULD BE EXPENSE SIDE.
THAT DID INCLUDE THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR FOR CONTINGENCY FROM FUND BALANCE.
WHEREAS WE'RE WAY BELOW REVENUE THAT IS MANAGING MULTIPLE THINGS.
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WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE A POSITION STILL VACANT THAT WE'RE WORKING TO RECRUIT FOR WITH TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR LIFEGUARDS AND FILL THOSE POSITIONS.THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THOSE PIECES.
I'LL SAY WITH ALSO HAVING INCREASED EXPENSES ON OUR BUILDING REPAIRS, STAFF WERE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT, AND WE SHOULD SEE EXPENSES WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE JUST UNDER $1,000,000.
YOU'LL SEE THAT SAVINGS THAT COMES WITH IT AS WELL OF WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS.
ALL IN ALL, THERE SHOULD BE ABOUT A $200,000 DIFFERENCE OF REVENUE TO EXPENSES FROM THAT ONE.
THEN I WORKED WITH FINANCE TODAY TO PROVIDE UPDATED NUMBERS FOR OUR FUND BALANCES.
>> IT WRAPS THOSE OTHER ONES TOGETHER AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAD CURRENT FINANCIALS, WHAT WERE AND WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING.
YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR FIRST COLUMN IS GOING TO IDENTIFY THE FUND BALANCE THAT ENDED AT LAST YEAR.
AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 24, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST COLUMN SHOWS THE FUND BALANCES IN EACH ACCOUNT.
FAST FORWARD TO THIS YEAR BASED ON THE INFORMATION I JUST GAVE YOU FOR PROJECTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORTFALL ON ABLC OF ABOUT 248,000.
AS LONG AS WE STILL BRING IN THAT SALES TAX REVENUE THAT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT COMES IN FOR SALES TAX.
REC DIVISION SHOULD BE PRETTY COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT ONE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ONLY GOT A MONTH LEFT.
WE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT THERE CAN BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
THEN THE ANGLETON REC CENTER, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES ABOUT $200,000 AS FAR AS REVENUE EXPENSES ONE.
YOUR THIRD COLUMN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE DIFFERENCE OF THOSE.
THIS IS WHERE WE PROJECT TO BE STARTING FOR FY 26.
OUR PROJECTIONS IS ABOUT $240,000 IN THE ABLC FUND BALANCE.
RP DIVISION WILL HAVE ABOUT 21,000.
KEEP IN MIND THAT 21,000 ACCOUNTS FOR WHAT WILL GO BACK TO ABLC.
YOU'LL SEE THE NOTE TO THE SIDE, THEY WILL TRULY HAVE $121,000, BUT THEY MAINTAIN $100,000.
I WANTED TO SHOW HERE WHAT IS GOING TO GO BACK TO ABLC.
APPROXIMATELY $21,000 WOULD GO BACK TO ABLC.
SIMILAR THING FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER.
THEY WOULD HAVE ABOUT $98,000 THAT WILL GO BACK TO ABLC.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE $274,000 THAT WAS DEDICATED FOR THE TPW GRANTS AND $100,000 FOR THEIR FUND BALANCE.
THAT AGAIN TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THAT FULL AMOUNT. I APOLOGIZE.
I DO FAIL TO MENTION, THERE WAS $150,000 DEDICATED FROM THE ABLC FUND BALANCE.
THIS IS ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THOSE THINGS IN THERE.
YOU SHOULD SEE ABOUT $360,000 FUND BALANCE FOR ABLC TO START THE FISCAL YEAR, IS WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE BASED ON CURRENT FINANCES AND WHAT WE PROJECT TO END OUT FOR THIS YEAR.
>> DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE GRANT IS GOING FORWARD?
>> YES. THE GRANT WAS OFFICIALLY SIGNED THE BEGINNING OF JUNE OR I SHOULD SAY THE END OF MAY TO MEET THE DEADLINE.
WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS WITH THAT.
HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
>> BUT WHAT EXPLAIN THOUGH? WE'LL GIVE YOU A PROPS OF THAT?
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 3? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
>> THE AIR CONDITIONERS HAVE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED AT THE REC CENTER, CORRECT, OR IS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE EXPECTED HERE IN THE NEXT?
THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN OUR PROJECTIONS, THOUGH.
THAT WE HAVE A FEW REPAIRS STILL OUTSTANDING.
WE ACTUALLY GOT GOOD NEWS ON ONE, ONE OF THE REPAIRS THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING, WHICH IS GREAT.
BUT THERE ARE STILL A COUPLE, BUT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PROJECTIONS FOR US TO MAINTAIN THAT WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT I'M LOOKING AT THERE BECAUSE THEIRS IS 60 5063 20.
THE 320 LINE WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT $150,000 OF EXPENSES WHEN WE BUDGETED 56.
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>> BUT YEAH, THAT IS CAPTURED AND THERE IS TO CONTINUE TO DO THOSE REPAIRS. BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.
>> BEFORE I MOVE ALONG. ANYTHING FURTHER? ON THE PROJECTIONS.
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE ON OUR ABLC FUND BALANCE.
IF YOU LOOK AT 23, 24, WE'RE MOVING INTO 25, 26, IT'S A SIZABLE DIFFERENCE DOWNWARD.
ARE YOU FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT NUMBER OR ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO?
>> AS FAR AS WHAT THAT LEADS OUR FUND BALANCE?
>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS, YES, I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.
>> FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS LATER ON?
>> WELL, FUND BALANCE, BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET TO PROJECT STUFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, 360,000 FUND BALANCE, THOUGH CAN BE NICE.
IF OUR SALES TAX CONTINUES TO TREND DOWNWARD, WE CAN DETINUE, YOU HAVE TO TAP INTO FUND BALANCE TO ADDRESS THAT.
IT'S YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE BECAUSE THEN WE CAN GO OUT FOR BONDS DOWN THE ROAD.
NOW WE WENT OUT FOR ONE JUST RECENTLY.
BUT IDEALLY WE TRY TO MAINTAIN A FUND BALANCE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
360 ISN'T A WHOLE LOT, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT WE WERE PROBABLY AN 80 TO $100,000 HIT JUST ON SALES TAX.
IF YOU SAW THE EXACT SAME HIT NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROJECTIONS OR OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
IF YOU SAW THAT SAME HIT, THAT'S A THIRD, IF NOT MORE OF YOUR FUND BALANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE UP.
I WILL SAY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE MONITOR BUDGETS CONSTANTLY.
AS THEY COME IN, STAFF KNOW THE SAME THING.
IF SALES TAX ISN'T THERE, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS RELY ON THAT FUNDING TO COME IN.
YEAH, GOING FROM A $600,000 FUND BALANCE TO A 300, THAT'S A BIG HIT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS AFFECTED OR WAS AFFECTED BY THE TRANSFER THAT WE TOOK THIS YEAR.
>> THE MAJORITY OF IT. YEAH. THERE IS TRANSFER I BELIEVE IT 300 K MORE?
>> I CANNOT REMEMBER. THANK YOU FOR ANSWER MY QUESTION.
ON THE CITY SIDE, WE'RE NOT PROJECTING THE SAME TRANSFER TO THE CITY'S GENERAL BUDGET AGAIN THIS YEAR ARE?
>> A LOT MORE BACK TO GETTING WHERE WE WANT TO BE?
>> IT'S PROBABLY NOT A WELL WORDED SENTENCE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE MOVE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
MOVING ON, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4,
[4. Discussion and possible action on FY2025-2026 budgets for Parks and Rights of Way, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FISCAL YEAR 25, 26, 2026 BUDGETS FOR PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY, RECREATION, ANGLETON REC CENTER AND ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.I SUPPOSE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM JASON AGAIN.
AS YOU RECALL, PAST COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE MET.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR FY 26.
I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU AFTER COUNSEL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOST THEIR BUDGET WORKSHOP IN AUGUST.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A CLEAN VERSION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT FINANCE DIRECTOR HELPED TO PROVIDE, AND SO WORKING WITH HER TO UPDATE THAT TO MAKE SURE IT BALANCES.
I WANTED TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE MET AND WHAT THAT IMPACT LOOKS LIKE.
MOST OF IT HAS STAYED THE SAME.
BUT A COUPLE THAT I WILL POINT OUT AS FAR AS THE PARKS AND RIGHT AWAY DIVISION.
AS WE PREVIOUSLY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS A 30% TRANSFER FROM ABLC TO THE GENERAL FUND.
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YOU'LL SEE IN THAT FIRST PAGE THAT I PROVIDED YOU THERE, YOU'LL SEE PARKS AND RIGHT ALWAYS FULL BUDGETS.BUT THE ONE TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO IS THE PERSONNEL SIDE.
PERSONNEL IS WHAT THE 30% TRANSFER CONSISTS OF.
TWO MAJOR THINGS TO POINT OUT FOR THAT ONE IS ONE RECENT TRANSITION TOOK PLACE WITHIN THE CITY, AND WE HAVE NOW TAKEN ON CITY MAINTENANCE ACROSS THE BOARD.
WE GAINED A PERSONNEL FROM THAT, WE GAINED ONE, AND WE PUT THEM ON OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM.
WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE A REPAIR MAINTENANCE DIVISION.
WE DID THAT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A CITY WIDE SERVICE AS FAR AS CITY FACILITIES.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.
THE OTHER ONE THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, BUT BASED ON THE BALANCED BUDGET THAT WAS GIVEN TO ABLC OR GIVEN TO CITY COUNCIL APOLOGIES, IS OUR BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE THREE OTHER POSITIONS.
THE PROJECTED BUDGET OR THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR THAT IS CURRENTLY IN LINE TO BE ADOPTED WOULD TAKE OUT TWO PARKS CREW WORKERS.
A BEAUTIFICATION ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY VACANT, AND WE HAVE A CREW MEMBER, AND SO WE WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THOSE ONES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND IT ALSO REMOVES THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
THOSE THREE POSITIONS WOULD NOT BE FUNDED OUT OF NEXT YEAR.
THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES, A BENEFIT FOR ABLC AS IT DOES REDUCE THAT, BUT IT DOES REDUCE OUR OVERALL STAFFING AS FAR AS TRYING TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP UP WITH THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
WAS A MAJOR HIGHLIGHT FOR THOSE IS YOU'LL SEE THAT.
THE OTHER PART I WILL MENTION IS CURRENT BUDGET DOES HAVE A COLA INCREASE FOR STAFF, SO A 5%, 3%, 2%, AND SO THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE PERSONNEL SERVICES AS WELL.
ALL THAT WAS LUMPED INTO THE ONE.
YOU HAVE ADDITION OF THE MAINTENANCE WORKER THAT WAS ADDED TO OUR DEPARTMENT.
WILL ALSO MENTION THAT WE DID HIRE ONE PARKS MEMBER AFTER WE TOOK ON ANOTHER RIGHT AWAY SECTION OR RE-TOOK BACK A RIGHT AWAY SECTION.
TO OUR STAFF THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR.
THEN THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS THAT WERE OUT AND THEN RAISES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHT FOR PARKS PERSONNEL.
THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT 30% TRANSFER AS FAR AS ABLC GOES.
THE RECREATION DIVISION, THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE THERE WAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE.
BECAUSE IT INCREASES THEIR EXPENSES, AND WOULD INCREASE THE TRANSFER FOR ABLC.
THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT WE HAD MADE.
THE REST OF THE BUDGET FOR THEM HAD STAYED THE SAME AS FAR AS WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
IT JUST DID INCREASE ON THEIR COSTS FOR COST OF LIVING.
THE REC CENTER, SAME THING WAS TO INCREASE FOR COST OF LIVING.
IT ALSO INCREASES THE ABLC TRANSFER BECAUSE IT OFFSETS THOSE COSTS.
BOTH OF THOSE WERE PRETTY MINIMAL AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE INCREASES WERE, BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT REFLECTED CHANGE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSE THAT CAME IN FOR THAT ONE.
THEN ABLC IS THE LAST ONE, AND SO NO CHANGES TO THE REVENUE, BUT THE EXPENSES WERE A DECREASED TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT TO YOU, WE INCLUDED ALL OUR STAFFING POSITIONS.
AS I MENTIONED, THOSE THREE POSITIONS WE HAVE BEEN REMOVED FOR NEXT YEAR.
IT BRINGS DOWN THE OVERALL TRANSFER AMOUNT.
THAT ACTUALLY DECREASED THE TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THEN THE INCREASED TRANSFER FOR THE REC DIVISION IN ABLC.
THAT ALSO CHANGES BY DOING THOSE THREE THINGS, IT CHANGES OUR CONTINGENCY AMOUNT.
OUR CONTINGENCY AMOUNT WENT UP TO HAVE A BALANCE BUDGET.
HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
THROW LOTS OF NUMBERS AT YOU TO.
>> NOW, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WORK ON WITH SUSIE, OR HOW DOES THIS WORK?
>> YEAH. FIRST, WE START WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENTS AND START TO BUILD THEIR BUDGET ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEARS WHEN WE START OURS BECAUSE WE COME TO ABLC FIRST.
THEN WE ALSO START TO LOOP IN FINANCE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS FOR THE YEAR.
VERY MUCH AN EXAMPLE LIKES PARKS WAS FLAT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE MAJORITY OF THINGS.
PERSONNEL WAS ONE THAT ONE OFFSHOOT OF THAT ONE BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE HIRING FREEZE IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
WE HAVE VACANT POSITIONS AND TO HELP PROVIDE A BALANCED BUDGET.
THAT SAVINGS FROM THE GENERAL OR THAT SAVINGS ON PERSONNEL HELPED TO REDUCE THE COST TO PRESENT A BALANCED BUDGET FOR THEM.
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REC DIVISION ANGLETON REC CENTER SIMILAR.OBVIOUSLY, THAT FUNDING COMES DIRECTLY FROM ABLC, BUT WE TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT OUR SPENDING IS TO NOT INCREASE OUR REVENUE TOO DRASTICALLY.
I WILL SAY, LIKE REC DIVISION.
GREAT EXAMPLE IS THEIR REVENUE WENT UP IS GOING UP NEXT YEAR, PROJECTED TO GO UP AND THEIR EXPENSES ARE PROJECTED TO DECREASE FROM THIS YEAR.
THERE'S AN OFFSHOOT FOR THEIRS.
MAIN ONE FOR THAT IS LEASE VEHICLES.
WE'RE NO LONGER HAVING A $41,000 CHARGE ON LEASE VEHICLES.
I BELIEVE IT IS ABOUT 14 OR 17,000 IS WHAT THE CHARGE FOR LEASE VEHICLES.
BIG DROP THERE, BUT WE ALSO ARE ADOPTING OUR NEW COST RECOVERY MODEL, AND SO WE EXPECT REVENUE TO INCREASE THERE.
GOOD NEWS ON THAT FRONT, IT SAVES MONEY AND ALSO BRINGS IN MORE.
THEN THE REC CENTER, SAME SIMILAR THING WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO EVALUATE.
THEY DID SEE AN INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR THAT'S PROJECTED BECAUSE OF OUR FULL LIFEGUARD STAFF.
LAST YEAR, WE WERE A MID YEAR 1, AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO EVALUATE THAT ONE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STUDY BEING DONE TO SEE WHEN THE NEW PLAY FEATURE COMES IN, IF WE COULD REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF OUR LIFEGUARDS TO STILL HAVE THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE FOR LIABILITY AND RISK, WOULD ALSO CONTINUE TO REDUCE THAT FOOTPRINT.
WE TRY TO DO THAT TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.
>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCIDENTALLY MAKE OURSELVES HAVE MORE FOOTPATH CRIB.
I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE HAVE IS OUR PLAY FEATURE THAT'S IN THERE IS PROVIDES A LOT OF BLIND SPOTS, AND SO YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND IT, AND THAT CAUSES SOME ISSUES IF IT WAS JUST AN OPEN POOL?
>> THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER COMES IN AND THEY SAY, OKAY-
>> THEY LOOK AT COVERAGE, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS AS FAR AS FEATURES YOU HAVE.
EXAMPLE WOULD BE, LIKE THE SLIDE.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE SLIDE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SLIDE ATTENDANT ON IT.
WELL, THEY WON'T PROVIDE INSURANCE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SLIDE ATTENDANT, SO BOOM, THERE YOU GO.
HERE'S ADDING A SLIDE ATTENDANT.
>> JASON, THOSE TWO VEHICLES THAT CAME OFF LEASE, HOW OLD ARE THEY?
>> I THINK IT'S 2018. THEY'RE FAIRLY NEW.
PART OF THE REASON WE DECIDED TO PURCHASE THEM WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE ON A THREE YEAR LEASE, AND OUR LEASE RENEWAL WAS UP, AND THEY HAD 9,000 MILES ON THEM.
PAYING ABOUT $100 A MONTH DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AGAIN, AND SO WE SAID IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY, CAN WE JUST PURCHASE THEM. WE DID THAT.
ONE OF THE TAHOES WENT TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO REPLACE ONE OF THEIR OUTDATED ONES.
WE ARE CURRENTLY ON A LEASE FOR A 12 PASSENGER VAN, SO THAT'S THAT LEASE PAYMENT THIS YEAR COMING INTO THE NEW YEAR, AND THEN WE PURCHASED THE BUS.
THE SAME THING. IT WAS A $1,200 PAYMENT, AND NOW WE OWN IT, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THOSE SAME PAYMENTS ON THAT, SO IT'LL HELP REDUCE OUR COST.
>> THEY'RE NOT ANCIENT? I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF MAINTAINING THEM WOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME AS LEASING IT?
>> NO. IT SHOULDN'T ANY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I WILL SAY THAT OUR STAFF IS AMAZING AT MAINTAINING OUR VEHICLES.
WE ALSO HAVE A 2011 BUS IN OUR FLEET.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR ISSUES WITH THAT ONE.
THAT ONE'S QUITE OLD, AND THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO PURCHASE THE OTHER ONE.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN MAINTAIN MORE FOR 10 PLUS YEARS, WHY WOULD WE PAY $1,100-$1,200 EVERY MONTH WHEN WE CAN JUST HAVE IT AND SAVE THAT MONEY FOR OTHER SERVICES.
ON THE HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES BY THE VISION, I APPRECIATE THAT.
BECAUSE I WAS READING THROUGH THAT AND I'M LIKE, THIS MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO JUST LOOK AT THE THE SUMMARY QUICK.
I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU PRESENT THE NUMBERS TO ME, I'M LIKE, WELL, GOODNESS, NOW I HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS.
BUT I KNOW YOU AND SUSIE, I KNOW YOU GUYS GOT THIS UNDER CONTROL, SO HEY, I JUST LIKE LOOK AT THE SUMMARY, PRETTY MUCH TO HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL SAY I PROBABLY BOTHER SUSIE MORE THAN ANYBODY SOMETIMES BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT.
JUST TODAY, WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH TO MAKE SURE WHAT SHE IS PRESENTING TO COUNSEL MATCHES WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT STUFF IS UPDATED.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WORK WITH A FORMAT THAT SHE HAD TO MAKE SOME OF THAT CONSISTENT PIECE, AND THEN JUST HIGHLIGHT WHAT HAD CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD SPOKE.
>> I'M LOOKING ON YOUR MEMO HERE.
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IT SAYS THAT THERE'S RECREATION DIVISION INCREASE, ABLC TRANSFER A CALL OF FOR FULL TIME STAFF, AND THEN YOU GOT A LISTED UNDER ARC AS WELL.THAT ONE TRANSFER, OR IS IT TWO DIFFERENT?
>> TWO DIFFERENT ONES. THERE IS A REC DIVISION TRANSFER AND THEN THERE IS A ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER TRANSFER.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE TRANSFERS.
THEN YOU HAVE A TRANSFER THAT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT WOULD BE OUT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THE WAY THE ACCOUNTS ARE SET UP, I WILL SAY, THROWS YOU OFF A LITTLE BIT.
THE LINE FOR THE REC DIVISION IS SEPARATE FOR THE ABLC TRANSFER.
YOU SEE THE REVENUE FROM REC PROGRAMS DIFFERENT FROM THE TRANSFER FOR ABLC.
WAS THE REC CENTER IS LUMPED IN.
WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THE ABLC TRANSFER STICK OUT LIKE IT DOES FOR REC DIVISION.
ARC IS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE IT'S THROWN INTO THE REVENUE.
WHEN YOU'RE SCROLLING DOWN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH MEMBERSHIP DAY PASS ROOM RENTALS, ABLC TRANSFER.
IT GETS THROWN OFF BECAUSE IT'S IN THERE WHEN IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS SEPARATE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT HOW THE ACCOUNT WAS SET UP.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM?
>> DO WE WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ON IT?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO CHANGE.
>> THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE 2, 3 AND 5% COLORS, WHERE Y'ALL DRAW ON THOSE LINES?
>> FORTY THOUSAND THRESHOLD, 60,000 THRESHOLD, AND 40-60 ABOVE.
>> BELOW 40, UNDER 40, BETWEEN 40 AND 60 AND ABOVE.
>> FIVE PERCENT UNDER 40, 3%, 40-60 AND THEN 2%,60 ABOVE.
THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL FOR ALL STAFF.
>> I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS JC, BUT WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST OF INCREASE ACROSS THE NATION? [LAUGHTER].
>> ACROSS THE NATION? [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY AS LOW AS THE AVERAGES, IS GREAT, BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER AREAS IN THE COUNTRY, THAT'S INTERESTING.
>> TAKE THE QUESTION THAT COMES DOWN, DO YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT THE CALL INCREASE? THAT'S JUST A PROBLEM.
I FEEL LIKE THE LAST THREE YEARS ON CITY COUNCIL, WE KNOW WE'RE BEHIND THE CPI.
LAST THREE YEARS HAVE BEEN REALLY TOUGH TO KEEP UP WITH, PROBABLY EVEN FOUR YEARS, REALLY.
MY THOUGHT PROCESS, I WANT TO SPEAK FOR OTHERS WAS THAT WE JUST KEEP BUILDING.
WE JUST, WITH THREE YEARS, WE'VE FIVE, THREE, TWO, PAST YEARS, IF CBI WASN'T CHANGED SO MUCH, YOU MIGHT NOT GET ANY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CATCH UP.
THAT'S JUST ALL I WAS ABOUT TO.
>> DR SAD, I WILL MENTION AS WELL.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR BUDGET CUTS THAT WERE DONE.
GENERAL FUND HAD TO DUE BUDGET CUTS OR THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR TO GET A BALANCED BUDGET.
THE GENERAL FUND WENT IN TRYING TO MAINTAIN A BALANCED BUDGET THAT WAS FLAT FROM LAST YEAR.
JUST LIKE YOU SEE FOR THE PARK STAFF AND O&M.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN WHAT WE REQUESTED THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR, BUT BECAUSE OF SOME SHORTFALLS, SO EVEN GETTING A RAISE IN GENERAL IS A BIG WIN FOR STAFF, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE'RE STILL OPERATING UNDER CUT BUDGETS.
IT'S TRYING TO GET A WIN FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE KNOWING THAT WE'RE STILL PUTTING THE WORK IN AND DOING THE THING.
EVENTUALLY, I THINK, LIKE TRAVIS MENTIONED, WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT, BUT UNTIL WE GET INTO A BETTER FINANCIAL SITUATION, IT'S GOING TO BE LITTLE BY LITTLE.
>> IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO AS MUCH AS WE COULD.
>> I'D LIKE TO GET EVENTUALLY TO A FLAT ACROSS THE BOARD AS OPPOSED TO 532.
WE JUST GET TO OUR, EVEN IF THAT'S THREE ACROSS THE BOARD OR FOUR, HOPEFULLY,
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MAYBE FIVE, BUT BUT THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE.>> I GUESS WHAT COUNCIL SAFE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT EVEN.
BUT OTHERWISE, I GUESS TO HAVE A STRATEGY.
>> THE THOUGHT PROCESS TOO, IS OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RELATIVELY LESSER WAGES AND TRYING TO STILL STAY COMPETITIVE IN THAT AREA.
IF YOU GIVE A LITTLE MORE OF AN INCREASE THERE, 5% OF SOMETHING LESS THAN 40 IS NOT AS BIG A A JUMP AS 2% OF 60.
>> ONE OF THE WORST THINGS TO DO IS LOSE TALENT AND LOSE PEOPLE WHO WILLING TO WORK FOR FEW DOLLARS HERE AND A FEW DOLLARS THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF ON BOARDING.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THESE NUMBERS.
>> IT'S A HUGE DISCUSSION POINT FOR MOST CITY COUNCILS.
IT'S JUST THAT OR I'M SURE ALL PROBABLY MUNICIPALITIES, COUNTY GOVERNMENTS, AND I'M SURE EVEN THE PRIVATE INDUSTRIES.
HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SITTING UP HERE IS WE'RE IN A HYPER COMPETITIVE MARKET.
IT'S JUST SUCH AN INFLUX OF NEED FROM A LOT OF CITIES, AND COUNTIES AND ISTS AND BUSINESSES TO REALLY REALLY COMPETITIVE, AND IT'S HARD FOR US TO MATCH SOME OF THOSE WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING.
WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET THAT I THINK THAT DO A GOOD JOB IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE.
>> L GO WITH THE NUMBERS THOUGH [INAUDIBLE].
>> GOES IS LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO-
>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION. THE HIRING FREEZE, IS THIS WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF SEEING THAT BE LIFTED OR AND THE PROJECTED, I GUESS FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
IS THAT NUMBER ALREADY INCLUDED?
>> AS FAR AS LIKE THE ONE SIDE MENTIONED THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
>> IN TO THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMING AHEAD.
>> FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, THAT WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNTS ALL PERSONNEL THAT I MENTIONED SO THE ADDITION OF THAT MAINTENANCE STAFF, THE NEW PERSON WE JUST HIRED, YES.
THE ONLY POSITIONS THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET ARE THE SYSTEM DIRECTOR POSITION AND TWO PARKS EMPLOYEES.
THOSE POSITIONS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
THAT WOULD MEAN UNLESS THERE WAS A MAJOR CHANGE, WHICH I WOULDN'T ENVISION AT MID YEAR, THOSE POSITIONS WILL NOT BE FILLED UNTIL A LATER DATE.
>> SOMETIMES THERE'S A MID YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT DEPENDING ON WHAT NEEDS AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE JUST STICKING YOUR FINGER IN ONE LEAK AND TRYING TO.
>> EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE FOR THAT IS TEXAS DID THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT, WHICH TOOK OFF SOME OF THE RIGHT AWAY MOWING FOR OUR TEAM, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD TO NOT HIRE SOMEBODY BECAUSE WE HAD REDUCED COVERAGE NEED.
ONCE WE REGAINED THAT PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, I GOT WITH LOOP AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE ADDING A WHOLE ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT IS PART OF RIGHT AWAY THAT WE HAD BEFORE.
OUR GUYS ARE ALREADY DAYS LIKE OUR MOWING SCHEDULE WENT FROM 5-6 DAYS TO 8-10 DAYS.
ADDING SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE WITHOUT STAFF IS GOING TO BE REALLY DIFFICULT, AND SO HE APPROVED US TO HIRE THAT POSITION THAT WAS FROZEN, BUT IT WAS KNOWING THAT WE HAD THREE AT THAT TIME, AND WE WERE ASKING FOR ONE BACK.
>> IDEALLY THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CITY GETS IN A BETTER POSITION AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE AS MUCH FROM OUR ABLC SIDE, AND THEN THAT WILL HELP US.
LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION, I THINK YOU'VE SPOKE ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2025, 2026 BUDGET RELATED TO PARKS & RIGHTS OF WAY, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND ABLC DIVISION BUDGETS.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. WE HAVE A SECOND.
>> SECOND. WE CALL FOR A VOTE.
BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
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ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SINGLE BY SAYING AYE.[5. Discussion and possible action on Capital Improvement Projects for FY2025-2026.]
I SEE SOME FACES IN THE CROWD.I WONDER IF THIS PEOPLE MIGHT BE HERE FOR THIS, BUT NUMBER 5.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025/2026.
AGAIN, JASON, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. AS YOU RECALL, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH OUR CIP STUFF OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AS WE'VE STARTED TO IDENTIFY THOSE, WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD, SOME PAST PROJECTS THAT WE WERE ALSO WORKING ON.
BEFORE YOU TODAY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THREE SPECIFIC ONES AS WE GET READY FOR NEXT YEAR, LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON SOME OF THESE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FUND BALANCES.
YOU DO HAVE YOUR FUND BALANCE SHEET UP THERE AS FAR AS WHAT OUR FUND BALANCES WILL LOOK LIKE.
THE OTHER ONE I WILL POINT OUT IS WE DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY FUNDS FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE, THOSE ARE TWO THINGS TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT.
AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE, THREE OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS LOOKING AT THE ADDITION OF A SIX FIELDS FOR BATES PARK SOFTBALL COMPLEX AND BEING ABLE TO ADD THAT.
THE BGP SOCCER COMPLEX FIELD GRADING IS THE OTHER ONE, AND THEN FREEDOM PARK PLAYGROUND IS THE THIRD ONE.
IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, IT WAS REQUESTED OF THE BOARD FOR US TO START LOOKING AT WHAT THE EXPANSION OF A SIXTH FIELD WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO TWO DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT ARE STARTING TO PROVIDE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS ON WHAT THAT PROPOSAL COULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS ADDING THAT FIELD GOES.
THE TWO NUMBERS THAT ARE TWO, VENDORS THAT WE REACH OUT TO IS PARAGON SPORTS CONTRACTORS IN TEXAS MULTI-CHEM.
THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME BRIEF ESTIMATES TO START THE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DEEPER PART OF IT AND EXPLORE THE PROJECT.
YOU'LL SEE THERE AS FAR AS THE FUNDING SCOPE FOR THOSE GOES, PARAGON IS PROJECTED CURRENTLY AT ABOUT $473,000.
>> I WILL SAY, I HAVE BEEN WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT.
TRYING TO SCALE BACK WHAT THAT COST WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON IS IF WE CAN GET A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE CONCRETE WORK BECAUSE FOR THEM, THEY'D BE SUBCONTRACTING.
THAT'S A MARKUP THAT'S THERE, IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOMEBODY TO INSTALL THE FENCE.
SAME THING. THAT WOULD BE A MARKUP THAT'S THERE.
THEN AGSA HAS PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT CUTTING THE INFIELDS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OFF SOME OF THE LABOR THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BEFORE THEN PARAGON WOULD COME IN AND THEN REGRADE THE FIELD AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS APPROPRIATE FOR FIELD PLAY.
I DID GET AN UPDATED NUMBER FROM THEM JUST THIS MORNING.
IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THOSE, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING A ROUGHLY ABOUT $291,000.
BUT KEEP IN MIND, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO THEN GO OUT TO [OVERLAPPING] CONCRETE WORK AND THE FENCING.
TOM, I DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM AGSA HERE.
THEY RECENTLY DID A FENCE, RE-DID ONE OF THE FENCES, AND THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY PUTTING THE POSTS IN.
CORRECT ME IF WRONG, WAS IT 17?
>> IT WAS ABOUT 17,000 FOR THAT.
IT WOULD SAVE TO FIND THE LOCAL CONTRACTOR TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK.
OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE LOOK AT IS LOOKING INTO TAP INTO PARKLAND DEDICATION.
I WILL TELL YOU PARKLAND DEDICATION AFTER THE ACQUISITION OF THE NEW LAND FOR ABIGAIL IS JUST AROUND $80,000 RIGHT NOW, SO THAT ONE'S GETTING LOWER AS WELL.
THERE ARE SOME FUNDING SOURCES.
>> BUT THERE SHOULD BE MORE FUNDS STILL COMING IN, RIGHT?
>> HAD ASHD NEVER PAID US A DIME YET?
>> SEE, THAT WAS MY ONLY MISTAKE.
I SHOULDN'T PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THEIR PAYMENT.
>> I'M TRYING TO GET AN UPDATE ON WHEN THERE'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> MAYBE NOT MY ONLY MISTAKE, BUT ONE OF THEM.
>> BECAUSE THERE'S THIS PHASING, BUT THEY HAVEN'T QUITE HIT THAT.
HOWEVER, UNTIL THAT MONEY COMES IN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OTHER OUTSTANDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN THEY WOULD TURN THEIR FUNDS IN FOR.
THERE'S SOME OUTSTANDING ONES THAT SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
WE CAN TAP INTO THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS TEXAS MEDICAL MULTICAM, AND THEIRS WAS A RANGE JUST LOOKING AT SAME THING.
I THINK WE COULD WORK WITH VOCAL CONTRACTORS.
BUT THEIRS WAS RIGHT ON POINTS AS FAR AS THE $400,000, BUT THEIRS WENT UP AS FAR AS $700,000,
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AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO.>> I DEFER SOMEWHAT TO THE AGSA.
BUT I DON'T THINK OUR DUGOUTS SHOULD EXCEED OUR CURRENT STYLE OR MODEL.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO UPGRADE, ARE WE?
>> THIS IS REALLY PRELIMINARY TO TALK ABOUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M JUST SAYING. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, AND I GUESS IT CAN APPLY TO ANYTHING, LAYOUT, LENGTH OF THE FIELDS, LIGHTING, FENCING.
WE JUST WANT A SAME LEVEL, WHICH IS GOOD QUALITY.
I WILL SAY THE BIGGEST ONES YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO IS CONCRETE WORK.
YOU'RE ADDING A NEW FIELD AND YOU HAVE TO MEET ADA COMPLIANCE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET PATHWAY TO THERE.
WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTING IT TO BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE NEWLY ACQUIRED LANDS BEHIND THE SCHOOL.
NOT NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT, BUT NEXT TO THE FIELD BETWEEN THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITY AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> OVER THE LEFT FIELD FENCE OF FIELD 3?
>> WHY NOT RIGHT FIELD FENCE OF FIELD 3?
>> WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THE LAND THAT WE OWN THAT LAND ALLOWED US TO.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE PARKING LOT IS SET UP, IF YOU TAKE THAT LITTLE OFFSHOOT PARKING LOT AND GO STRAIGHT, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE LAND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO.
THEY GAVE US FROM WHERE THE MAIN PARKING LOT ENDS, GOING STRAIGHT BACK.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIELD THERE, [OVERLAPPING] WE WOULD HAVE A SMALL SLIVER OF IT.
BASICALLY TAKE THE PARKING LOT OUT AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN THERE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GO ONTO THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS ON THAT ONE IS THAT IT IS ACTUALLY A CLOSER FOOTPRINTS TO GET FROM 3-4 TO GET YOU CONCRETE TO THAT SPACE.
>> THERE IS A PAD THAT GOES 3-4 TO THAT BIG OAK TREE.
>> BECAUSE NOW THAT CONCRETE GOES ALL THE WAY BASICALLY TO THE END ALMOST.
WHAT YOU WOULD NEED WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU ADDED ONE OVER WHERE YOU'RE MENTIONED, TRAVIS? [OVERLAPPING] WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN CONCRETE THE ENTIRE PATH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT.
IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER TO BE IN THAT SPACE THERE.
BUT THIS IS TRYING TO DO BARE BONES AS WE CAN, BUT ALSO GIVE A QUALITY FIELD THAT WOULD HELP TO INCREASE VISIBILITY.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HOST NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT, AND IT WOULD BE YOUR DUGOUTS, SPECTATOR AREA.
WE PROBABLY NOT EVEN GOING TO LOOK AT PUTTING SEATING IN.
WE HAVE BLEACHERS THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BRING IN THAT ARE CURRENTLY STORED AT ANDERSON.
THIS WOULD BE SCOREBOARD, NO LIGHTS, GRATED FIELDS.
>> YOU KNOW, JASON. WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I'M THINKING, MAYBE I HAVEN'T PURCHASED IN A LONG TIME, BUT THE PRICES SEEM VERY ABSORBED INITIALLY.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS PRELIMINARY.
>> BUT YOU JUST SAID THE PRICE WENT FROM ROUGHLY 473,000 WITH PARAGON.
I TAKE IT PARAGON IS NOT LOCAL.
ALSO TAKE IT THAT TEXAS MULTI-CHEM IS NOT LOCAL AS WELL.
WE GO FROM 473,000 DOWN TO WHAT YOU MENTIONED 291.
THAT'S LIKE 180,000 DIFFERENT.
YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE FENCE DOWN FOR 17,000.
I THINK FOR JUST SHOWING PRIDE AND JUST SHOWING OWNERSHIP, IF YOU WANT TO USE A COMPANY LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT HERE.
WE THEN TAKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND CHANNEL BACK INTO LOCAL BUSINESSES TO PUT THE FENCE UP HERE AND TO DO THIS HERE.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
SO ANYWAY WE CAN GET THOSE PRICES DOWN AND JUST USE AS MANY LOCAL VENDORS OR LOCAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AS POSSIBLE, THAT'S THE WIN TO WIN FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THAT'S THE HOPE IS TO TRY TO DO THAT BECAUSE AS YOU SAW FOR OUR BUDGET NUMBERS, $475,000 IS NOT WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE THAT.
WE'LL GIVE TOM AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK IF HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE VALUE THAT WOULD BRING AND THE PURPOSE FOR IT BEFORE WE CAN MOVE INTO THE NEXT ONE IF YOU WANT TO.
>> I'M GOING TO THROW ONE THING OUT THERE, MAYBE.
THERE HAD BEEN DISCUSSION FOR SOME TIME ABOUT PUTTING SOME SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THOSE FIELDS OR AT LEAST THE STANDS.
NOT OVER THE FIELD, BUT OVER THE STANDS.
DOING THAT IN THERE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MONEY.
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>> AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, TOM PATTERSON, PRESIDENT OF ANGLETON SOFTBALL FOR 12 YEARS NOW, I THINK. I'M LOSING COUNT.
BUT THE THING IS THE REASON WE CAME TO YOU-ALL FOR THE FIELD WAS BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE A NATIONAL TOURNAMENT WITH ONLY FIVE FIELDS.
THEY REQUIRE US TO HAVE SIX FIELDS TO HAVE A NATIONAL TOURNAMENT.
WE DID HAVE THE PIXIE'S NATIONAL THE FIRST EVER THIS LAST YEAR LAST SUMMER.
ALL OF USA SOFTBALL THAT CAME TO US, THEY SAID, THIS IS THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE IT.
THEY WANT TO HAVE ALL THE TOURNAMENTS THEY CAN HERE.
BECAUSE THE CITY ACCOMMODATED EVERYBODY ACCOMMODATED THEM SO WELL.
WE KEPT OUR FIELDS UP AND EVERYTHING WENT SO SMOOTH THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALL THEIR TOURNAMENTS, THEIR NATIONAL DISTRICTS AND STATE TOURNAMENTS THERE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THE NATIONAL FOR THE 10, 12, 14U, WE HAVE TO HAVE SIX FIELDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE AMOUNT OF TEAMS WE WOULD HAVE.
IF WE HAD SIX FIELDS, WE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE UP TO 50 T-60 TEAMS. IF ONE TOURNAMENT LIKE THAT IS GOING TO BRING HOW MUCH MONEY TO THE CITY, I HAVE NO IDEA.
I COULDN'T EVEN PUT A NUMBER ON IT, REALLY.
BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST 12 KIDS PER TEAM PLUS THEIR PARENTS, AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
WHEN WE HAVE A BIG TOURNAMENT LIKE THAT, WE RAN CHILES OUT OF FOOD.
WE RAN A PIZZA HUT OUT OF FOOD, AND WE'RE STILL SERVING FOOD.
BUT THEN THEY GO OUT AFTERWARDS AND EAT.
IT'S HELPFUL FOR THIS WHOLE CITY IS WHY.
ONE REASON AND THE OTHER REASON IS BECAUSE WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A NATIONAL TERM IN ANGLETON.
>> I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A QUESTION, BUT WE NEED THAT OF THE FIELD.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT NOW IS JUST, HOW COULD WE GET IT WITH THE BUDGET THE BEST BANG OF THE BUCK, ESSENTIALLY?
>> WELL, TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING TO JASON ABOUT, IS WE WOULD CUT THE INFIELD OUT.
WE COULD ACTUALLY CUT ALL THE GRASS FOR THE INFIELD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS.
WE HAVE TO CUT THE GRASS EVERY OTHER YEAR ON THE FIELDS TO MAKE THEM PLAYABLE.
WE COULD ACTUALLY CUT THAT IN A WEEKEND.
THEN THEY COME IN WITH CLAY OR WHATEVER THEY HAD TO DO TO MAKE IT A FIELD.
WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP ESTABLISH THAT.
>>THE $17,000 THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE FENCING, WAS THAT REPLACING THE WHOLE FENCE AROUND THE FIELD?
>> THE WHOLE FENCE, AROUND THE FIELD.
NOW, THEY LEFT THE POSTS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE, AND THEY CAME AND PAINTED THEM BECAUSE AT THE TIME, THE CITY WAS REQUIRING THE RUBBERIZED FENCE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL A REQUIREMENT OR NOT.
MOST OF THE EXPENSE'S THE FENCE WAS A SPECIAL RUBBERIZED FENCE.
ALL THE OTHER FENCES, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.
>> THAT'S THE QUESTION. IS THAT GOING TO BE REQUIRED ON THE NEW FIELD?
>> I WILL SAY THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PARK STANDARDS.
BUT NO, THAT'S ADOPTED BY OR THAT WAS APPROVED BY ABLC AND BY CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO
>> WHEN YOU SAY RUBBERIZED FIELD, DO YOU MEAN THE LITTLE WIRES HAVE RUBBER ON THEM?
>> IT'S BETTER A COATED FENCE.
>> YEAH. IT'S NOT TO SAY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE A DETERMINATION BECAUSE OUR CURRENT PARK STANDARDS DO STIPULATE THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH APPROVAL FOR THAT TO BE CHANGED.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
>> YEAH. I LIKELY HERE IT STANDS THOUGH.
>> SO THAT $17,000, WAS IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH. FENCE? FOR THE FENCE, THAT $17,000 FOR THE FENCE, WAS THAT A LOCAL CONTRACTOR THAT CAME AND DID THAT FOR YOU?
>> YES. THEY DID ALL THE FENCE AROUND AND REPLACED IT AND THEY KEPT THE POLES UP.
I SAID, THEY PAINTED THEM WITH RUBBER PAINT INSTEAD OF CHANGING ALL THE FENCE POLES.
>> WE'RE KEEPING DOLLARS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY USING THAT?
>> YOU'RE SAVING LABOR TO HAVE IT REMOVED.
THERE'S NOTHING THERE. SO THAT WOULD ABSORB SOME OF COST FROM STAKING THE NEW POLES.
>> WE CAN GO OUT TO QUOTE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
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A BRAND NEW FENCE WOULD BE JUST LIKE THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD THE LABOR TO DEMO THAT FENCE AND GET RID OF IT IN THERE.THIS WILL JUST BE PUTTING IT UP.
>> NOT THAT YOU-ALL HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHENEVER WE CONSTRUCT THIS FIELD, WHETHER IT'S THIS YEAR OR SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK IMMEDIATELY WE'D PROBABLY GO WITHOUT LIGHTS, WHICH FIELD 5 FOR A LONG TIME WENT WITHOUT LIGHTS, WHICH'S NOT A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY MOVING TO APRIL AND MAY, PLAYING SOFTBALL, YOU CAN PLAY GAMES UP UNTIL 7 0'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
YOU CAN USE THEM ALL DAY THOUGH. I DID ONE.
YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT MAKE SURE WE LEAVE ROOM FOR POLES FOR LIGHTING, SO THAT EVENTUALLY, WE'RE NOT ENCROACHING UPON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR HAVING TO BUY AN EASEMENT OR SOMETHING TO UTILIZE THAT.
>> WELL, ONE THING WOULD BE SITUATED IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY.
THE POLES IS OUT THERE ON FIELD 3.
YOU COULD PUT THE LIGHTS ON THAT POLE STILL AND THAT WOULD TAKE UP THREE OR FOUR OF THE POLES YOU WOULDN'T LOSE.
>> WE TRIED THAT AT SOCCER FIELDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WORKED WELL.
>> ALSO, FOR ME, MY DAUGHTERS DO NOT PLAY SOFTBALL.
SO I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHICH ONES 1, 02, 3, OR 4 OR 5.
I'M LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.
>> GOT TO GET YOU OUT THERE, MAN.
SO THE CONCRETE PARKING LOT RIGHT ACROSS THE GAZEBO WHERE THE BASKETBALL COURT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S ONE AND TWO. 1, 02, 3, 04, 5, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE LITTLE ONE DOWN BY ITSELF. THAT'S FIVE.
>> I BELIEVE FOUR, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THAT OPEN FIELD.
>> THERE'S CONCRETE IN 3-4 RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT'S IN THE DUG OUT THERE, BUT THERE IS AN ANCIENT OAK, WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND WE NOT GET RID OF. IT'S A WONDERFUL TREE.
>> A LITTLE BIT OF SHADE THAT THEY HAVE OUT.
>> A LITTLE BIT OF SHAPE FOR WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, MAN, SOUNDS GOOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING.
>> I JUST GOT A CRAZY QUESTION SINCE THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS FIELDS TOO.
>> CORRECT. ONE QUESTION, HOW BADLY ARE THE LIGHTS GOING TO AFFECT? TRAVIS IS SAYING IS IT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T USE THEM AS OFTEN, PROBABLY WOULDN'T LEAVE THEM FOR THAT FIELD, BUT IS IT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, HEY, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GOT THIS WORKED IN OR FIGURED OUT SOMETHING HE SAID RAN THE POLE OR FOR THE ACCESSIBLE LIGHTS IN THE FUTURE, OR ARE WE JUST TRYING TO BRANCH OFF THE BACK OF THE WAY THEY ARE AT THE SOCCER FIELD OR BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE A COST EITHER YOU DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME OR YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT LATER ON AGAIN?
>> MY SUGGESTION WAS WE GET A FIELD BUILT AND WHEN WE'RE ABOUT THE LIGHTS LATER.
>> YEAH. ESPECIALLY THE COST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIGHT THE FIELDS? WE'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE TO FIND A COST TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT BUILDING FIELDS.
>> QUESTION. ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL STANDARDS, THE HOST TURNED IT.
IS THERE ANY STIPULATION THAT SAY WE HAVE TO HAVE LIGHTS OR NOT? IF THERE'S NO STIPULATION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WOMEN WOULD BE PLAYING WOULD BE IN JUNE, JULY.
>> YEAH. WE CAN PLAY UP UNTIL EIGHT O'CLOCK, 8: 30.
THEN YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO MISS A COUPLE OF GAMES ON THAT FIELD.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE LIGHTS RIGHT AWAY PLUS FROM LIGHTS.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN I THINK THE LIGHTS FOR FIELD 5 WERE 140,000, WAS THAT RIGHT? YOU MAY REMEMBER.
>> I THINK IT WAS AROUND 140,000 FOR THE LIGHTS.
NOW, IF 470, IF THAT COUNTED LIGHTS TOO, THAT'S TOO BAD. [LAUGHTER]
HONESTLY, 470 SEEMS PRETTY REASONABLE CONSIDERING WHAT THE QUOTES ARE FOR A JUNIOR LEAGUE FIELD AT THE FREEDOM PARK GOING CLOSE TO A MILLION, SO YEAH.
>> COULD WE JUST RENT ONE OF THE FIELDS FROM AISD?
>> YOU CAN PROPOSE IT WHETHER THEY WOULD AGREE TO IT. THEY'RE PRETTY.
>> THE PROBLEM YOU RUN INTO FOR THAT IS YOU HAVE A SINGLE FIELD AT AN OPPOSITE LOCATION AND SO SCHEDULING LINES WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT IF IT WASN'T [OVERLAPPING] COMPLEX, BUT.
>> THE BEST YOU COULD DO IS I DON'T SPEAK TO THIS, BUT PUT ONE AGE GROUP AT THAT FIELD ACROSS TOWN.
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BUT IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE.>> THE SAME AREA, YOU GO ONE SIDE DOWN, ESPECIALLY FAIRLY OR SOMETHING.
>> IT'S ALL ABOUT PERSPECTIVE, I GUESS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE HE SAID YOU JUST EXTENDED THE FIELD RIGHT THERE.
>> WHAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE GOT TO GO.
WHAT GROUND TO MAKE THE DECISION?
>> I WAS TOLD THAT EVEN IF THEY BROKE GROUND IN EARLY SPRING, THEY SHOULD HAVE IT READY BY THE MID SUMMER.
>> THE TURNAROUND TO DO THE BARE BONES WOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK.
>> I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND CREDIT TO AGSA AND I GUESS THE CITY BUT WE'VE BROUGHT ALONG FIELD 5.
IT'S TAKEN TIME. BUT IT'S STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE. LOOKS GOOD.
>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT, THOUGH.
GIVE MORE KIDS OUT THERE TO PLAY GAMES.
>> IT'S ALL GOOD, IT'S GOT TO PAY FOR IT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT PROJECT? I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
DO HAVE REPRESENTATION HERE AS WELL FROM ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB.
AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE HAVE DONE A FEW STEPS ALREADY TO GET TOWARDS THE PROCESS OF REGRADING SOME OF THE FIELDS AT BG PARK.
WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO ADDRESS LIGHTING OUT AT THE FACILITY THROUGH THE BOND PROJECT.
THAT PROJECT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.
WE HAD FUNDS AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO START THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THE REGRADING OF THE FIELDS.
WE HAD PREVIOUSLY GOTTEN DIRT OUT THERE.
I THINK MOST OF IT'S STILL THERE, CORRECT IN CAPACITY.
WE HAD GOTTEN DIRT OUT THERE AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS ALONG IN THAT.
WE'VE HAD ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB, HDR, AND PARK STAFF INVOLVED IN MEETINGS TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS THE REGRADING.
WE ULTIMATELY CAME DOWN TO AND WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE HAVE FINALIZED OUR ALMOST 100% COMPLETE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS UNLESS OTHER MAJOR CHANGES COME ALONG.
BUT WITH THAT, THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN OPINION OF PARK WOULD COST.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET.
IT IS TECHNICALLY COULD BE OUT TO FOUR PHASES.
THE WAY HDR'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD TO BID THIS PROJECT WOULD TO BE BID AT PHASE 1 AND THEN PUT IN ADD ALTERNATIVES AS OPPORTUNITIES IF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL ONES IN THAT PROJECT, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH ALL YOUR FUNDS THERE AT ONE TIME.
>> I'M SORRY, I'M INTERRUPTING. THE WAY THAT'S PHRASE PHASE 1 AND THEN ALTERNATIVES 1, 2 AND 3, ARE YOU SAYING THOSE ARE LIKE, EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY ALTERNATIVES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BID AND YOU PROVIDE AN ADD ALTERNATIVE, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TO THE CURRENT PROJECT.
THEY WOULD QUOTE IT AS IN IF THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.
SOMEBODY BEING ALREADY AT THAT FACILITY, COMPLETING PHASE 1, IF YOU HAD FUNDING AVAILABLE, IT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE YOUR COST TO DO IT AS LARGER CHUNKS.
IF YOU HAD MONEY, YOU COULD THROW IN ALTERNATIVE 1 AND ADDRESS THAT TO KEEP YOUR COST DOWN BECAUSE THE GROUP IS ALREADY THERE.
WHEREAS IF YOU GO BID FOUR DIFFERENT PHASES, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A PROBABLY INCREASED COSTS BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERING IT FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS LIKE ABIGAIL.
ONE OF THE ADD ALTERNATIVES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE ENGINEERED WOOD FIBERS VERSUS POOR AND PLAY VERSUS TURF.
YOU WOULD QUOTE IT AT ONE AND THEN YOU WOULD PUT AN ADD ALTERNATIVE TO SEE WHAT THAT EXTRA COST WOULD BE TO SAY, YES, I HAVE FUNDS.
LET ME THROW THAT IN THERE INSTEAD, THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT IS, PHASE 1 IS THE FIRST APPROACH AND IF WE HAD FUNDING, YOU COULD TACKLE MORE IF IT CAME IN.
BUT BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE.
THEN LATER ON, SAY, HEY, THE ALTERNATIVE, LET'S ADD IN ANOTHER 324.
>> THEY'RE PROJECTING IT BASED ON ONE BID.
>> THIS WOULD BE ONE FULL BID AT ALL THOSE PRICES.
THIS IS JUST EACH SECTION WOULD COST THAT.
WE DIVIDED IT INTO FOUR DIFFERENT SECTIONS TO SEE WHAT THAT COST WOULD COME OUT TO TO SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN PHASES, OR IF WE HAD IT WE HAD FULL 1.3, WE COULD ADDRESS IT ALL.
>> ALTERNATIVE 1 IS MAYBE HELP ANSWER MY QUESTION.
ALTERNATIVE 1, 2, AND 3 ARE JUST ACTUAL ADDITIONAL PHASES.
THEY'RE NOT LITERALLY ALTERNATIVES LIKE, WELL, WE'LL DO IT THIS WAY FOR 324, OR WE'LL DO IT THIS WAY?
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT IS STAGING, IF YOU HAD FUNDING AVAILABLE, YOU COULD SAY,
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I'M GOING TO DO ALTERNATIVE 1 AND ADDRESS IT OR YOU COULD SAY I'M GOING TO DO ALTERNATIVE 4 BECAUSE I HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT ONE AND NOT FOR 1.YOU COULD ADDRESS IT TO THAT IF BUDGET CAME IN THAT YOU HAD BUDGET ALLOCATED, AND THEN YOU COULD ADDRESS THOSE NOT DOING PHASING.
I WILL SAY THAT BASED ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, IT IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO TURN INTO PHASING.
THE ALTERNATIVE PIECE IS JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT PHASE, SO AS WE BROKE OUT THE FIELDS WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PHASING APPROACH AND HOW THE FUNDING WOULD BREAK DOWN TO SUPPORT THOSE PROJECTS.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST SET OF FIELDS, AND THEN WHAT IS SET 2, SET 3, AND SET 4.
IF YOU HAVE FUNDING, YOU HAVE THE FUNDING, BUT IT'S MOST LIKELY IN TURN TO PHASING.
>> IF I SEE THIS CORRECTLY, THIS PROJECT ON ALL FOUR PHASES IS OVER 1.3 MILLION?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS BASED ON HDR'S PROJECTED NUMBERS FOR THIS. YEAH.
>> I GET SOME CULVERTS, DITCH GRADING, MULCHING.
>> WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR US? I DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF HYDROMULCHING?
>> WELL, I THINK HYDROS. YEAH.
>> BUT THIS IS REGRADING ALL FIELDS TO HELP WITH IMPROVED DRAINAGE.
THIS IS TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE AND DO CULVERTS.
HOW DO WE GET THE WATER OUT OF THE COMPLEX AND GOING THROUGH AND REDOING SOME OF THE IRRIGATION.
MINOR IRRIGATION CHANGES NOT MAJOR, BUT ALSO AS WE RAISE FIELDS WE'LL HAVE TO RAISE IRRIGATION BUT ADDING A FEW ADDITIONAL IRRIGATION LINES AND THEN THE HYDROFIELDS OR THE HYDROMULCH TO ENSURE THAT IT TAKES.
WITH THAT APPROACH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PHASE 1 PROJECTED COST OF $404,000.
KEEP IN MIND, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE'VE COMMITTED MONEY FOR THE DIRT TO GET OUT THERE.
>> YEAH. WE HAVE COMMITTED MONEY FOR THE CONTRACT TO CREATE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
THEY ARE READY TO TAKE IT OUT FOR BIDDING.
BUT BEFORE WE PULL THAT TRIGGER, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO GO OUT TO BIDDING IF WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE WE WOULD THEN REJECT ALL BIDS.
>> THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH. THEY'RE AT THE POINT OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
AGAIN, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE, AND THEY'RE READY TO PROCEED WITH BIDDING IT OUT.
>> HELP ME. OUR LAST CEO WAS ABOUT $4 MILLION.
WITH THAT MONEY, WE'VE COMMITTED IT, BUT WE HAVE NOT.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HARDLY SPENT ANY OF IT, HAVE WE?
>> WE COMMITTED $2 MILLION TO ABIGAIL.
>> CORRECT. BUT WE HAVE NOT BROKEN GROUND OR.
>> WE HAVEN'T BROKEN GROUND, BUT [OVERLAPPING] THE DESIGN PHASES.
WE'VE COMMITTED THAT FUNDING TO IT.
WE HAVE COMMITTED $900,000 TO FREEDOM PARK.
ONLY THING IS THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE AS WELL ON THAT ONE.
>> I THOUGHT WE WERE CLOSER ON THAT ONE.
>> THAT ONE WE'RE CLOSER. THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WE'RE ALREADY AT THE END OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THAT ONE VERSUS ABIGAIL IS JUST STARTING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
SMALLER PROJECTS SCOPE ON THAT ONE.
THAT ONE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CLOSER AND FOOTPRINT OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO THE COST OF THAT ONE, THAT'LL BE A BIG ONE.
>> YES, $500,000 FOR THE REC CENTER, 254 BG PARK FOR THE LIGHTING CAME IN ABOUT 170.
>> YES. THAT'S COMPLETE. THAT ONE'S DONE.
THE GRADING PROJECT FOR THIS ONE FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IS WE'VE PAID PORTIONS OF THAT ONE ALREADY TO EAT UP MAJORITY OF WHAT'S LEFT OVER FOR THAT.
>> THE TEXAN TRAIL, WHICH IS ALSO COMING IN ON BUDGET, BUT UNTIL THEY FINALIZE THAT, WE WON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
>> EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE TO DO THE CHANGE?
>> YEAH. WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO COME ON OUR BUDGET FOR THAT ONE.
AS LONG AS THEY FILE SCHEDULE, THAT PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED MID SEPTEMBER.
BY OUR OCTOBER MEETING WE SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THAT THAT IF THE BOARD WANTED TO MOVE THOSE FUNDS TO ANOTHER PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, THEY COULD.
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JUST WAITING ON THAT FINAL NUMBER.>> I KNOW WE HAVEN'T GOT TO FREEDOM PARK YET.
WE'LL LET YOU GET THAT. I REMEMBER TALKING TO JOE MORROW.
>> AT THE TIME, WE WENT OUT FOR THAT.
>> WHO WAS IN 2024? HE SAID THAT I'M ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN OF THIS BECAUSE I HAD A CONVERSATION.
2025, WE COULD, ALTHOUGH HE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GO OUT FOR ANOTHER CO. OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE FOUR MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE HALF OR 1.5 OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
BUT IF WE WAITED A YEAR AND SAY GOT INTO 2026, MAYBE WE COULD MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIGGER CO.
I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S TOUGH TOO.
>> I'VE HAD THAT THOUGHT AS WELL.
THE ONLY NEGATIVE THAT COMES IS.
>> DELAY. WELL, I DON'T DEAL WITH.
>> IT IS THE FUN BALANCE OF WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE.
I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO JOE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND PROVIDE HIM WITH AN UPDATE ON THAT AND MAYBE THAT'S A DISCUSSION.
>> I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE, THESE ARE SOME FAIRLY BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF JUST A FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO GET US THERE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT.
MAYBE CHECK A FEW BOXES, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT GETTING OR PLACING AGSA IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND QUITE HONESTLY, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS FOR BG PARK, WE WOULD BE SETTING US UP FOR 20, 30 YEARS, REALLY FOR THAT POT COM MAYBE LONGER, MAYBE 30, 40 YEARS.
YOU'RE MAKING A BIG INVESTMENT.
ONE THING THAT WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY ON ABLC IS, AT LEAST UNDER OUR CHARTER, I UNDERSTAND IS WE ARE ALSO IN CHARGE OF MITIGATING, I GUESS-
>> DRAINAGE. THANK YOU. THERE WAS A CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM LAST WEEK THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A PROJECT FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT WE CAN HELP CITIZENS IN THEIR DRAINAGE ISSUES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
THERE'S BIG DRAINAGE ISSUES IN FLOODING THAT WE COULD COMMIT SOME MONEY TOWARDS TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE TOO. I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE IT'S A BETTER IDEA OR MAYBE NOT A BETTER IDEA, BUT MAYBE IT'S AN IDEA TO LOOK AT, SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE BUNDLE THESE LIKE WE DID THAT LAST PACKAGE WHERE WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS, WHERE AGAIN WE CAN TAKE FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS, ADDRESS THREE OR FOUR PARKS, BUT ALSO ADDRESS SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE CITY THAT WE CAN HELP PEOPLE WITH THEIR DRAINAGE ISSUES.
THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT PROCESS.
I KNOW I'M JUMPING A LITTLE HEAD BEFORE WE GO TO THE FREEDOM PARK.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF LIFE.
WE PUT A LOT OF FOCUS ON BASEBALL AND FOOTBALL FIELDS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO SHOW LOVE TO SOCCER.
BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS LIKE, YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WORLDWIDE, THAT'S THE SPORT.
THE THING IS IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE LOCAL PEOPLE HAVE REPRESENTATION.
MAYBE WE CAN HAVE TOURNAMENTS AT SOME POINT IN TIME WITH SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT IT ON THE BACKGROUND.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND $1.3 MILLION WITHOUT PERHAPS GOING OUT FOR IT.
>> IS THERE ANY WAY TO SHAVE SOME OF THAT COST DOWN BY USING SOME OF OUR OWN LOCAL CITY EMPLOYEES TO START ANY SECTION OF THAT TOO.
MIGHT BE NOT A LOST CAUSE, BUT IN TERMS OF, IF THEY CAN START FROM THE BACK OF, WHAT IS THAT, DUSTIN FIELD 9 IN THE VERY BACK CORNER? THE BIGGEST FIELD IN THE BACK CORNER.
WORKING THE DRAINAGE FORWARD FROM THERE. I DON'T KNOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE AS A PART OF THEIR SCOPE OF WORK OR SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO TACKLE OR?
>> I WOULD SAY THERE MAY BE SMALL PIECES OF IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CULVERTS NEED TO BE RE-DUG AND ADDRESS THAT WOULD HELP IMPROVE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE.
THERE ARE SOME PIECES OF THAT.
I WILL SAY THE OTHER SIDE IS DEPENDING ON WHAT EQUIPMENT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE.
PUBLIC WORKS HAS LOST SOME OF THEIR EQUIPMENT RECENTLY, SO THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
>> ALSO THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ON SOUTH SIDE IF SOMETHING OCCURS OVER THERE.
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>> YES. THERE'S WAYS TO EXPLORE IT.
I WILL SAY ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS SALE PROJECT GOING IN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A FULL REGRADE, IS IT CARRIES WITH A WARRANTY OF THEM COMING IN AND IF YOU NOTICE ANYTHING, WHEREAS IF WE TRY TO DO AND SOMETHING DOESN'T TAKE, EXAMPLE, FOR THAT DIRT MOUND IS WE'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH A LOT TO SEE HOW IT WILL ACTUALLY GROW GRASS.
IF WE DID THAT, THEN A SOCCER CLUB WOULD BE OUT A FIELD FOR POTENTIALLY EVEN LONGER IF WE DIDN'T.
VERSUS HAVING A CONTRACTOR COME IN, THAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME EXPERTISE, BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY SHAVE A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THAT.
I FAILED TO GIVE DUSTIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO YOU, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS PROJECT COULD MEAN TO THEM.
IF YOU ALL DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US TOO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME DUSTIN MERCADO, NOT NEAR AS LONG A TENURE AS TAU HERE, BUT GOING ON ABOUT FIVE YEARS AS PRESIDENT AND EIGHT YEARS WITH THE CLUB.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO MAKE CHANGES, DRAINAGE AND HAVING TO CLOSE THE FIELDS FOR RAIN HAS BEEN OUR MOST LONG-GOING ISSUE WHILE OTHER CLUBS ARE OPEN.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP SO FAR AND THE LIGHTING PROJECT.
JUST SPEAKING TO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TOURNAMENTS AND THEY NEED SIXTH FIELD.
FOR SOCCER, THERE'S WHAT WE CALL EASTERN DISTRICT.
YOU CAN HAVE GIRLS AND BOYS AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT DIVISIONS WHERE YOU AMASS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TEAMS AND AMONG THE LAST ONE WE HOSTED A FEW YEARS AGO WAS ABOUT 2000-2200 PATRONS FOR THE SMALLER OF THE EASTERN DISTRICTS.
GETTING THE LIGHTS FOR THAT HAS HELPED US IN CASE THERE ARE RAIN EVENTS WHERE WE CAN GO FURTHER INTO THE EVENING.
NOW WE HAVE POTENTIALLY TWO OF THE MAIN LARGE FIELDS, AND THEN THE THIRD BACK FIELD THAT WE ADDED THE LED LIGHTS TO THAT, DIDN'T HAVE POLES, IS CROSS MARKED WITH TWO OF THE NEXT SIZE SMALLER FIELDS.
KEEPING WITH THAT SAME MENTALITY, THAT'S GOING TO OFFER US TO BE ABLE TO HOST.
THE DRAINAGE AND DIRT WORK THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS IS THE SAME TYPE OF THING WHERE, IF WE CAN GET THAT IN FIRM UP, HOW GOOD OUR FIELDS ARE AND SHOWCASE THAT, THEN WE HAVE MORE ABILITY TO HOST.
WE'RE ACTUALLY ON THE RUNNING TO HOST ANOTHER EASTERN DISTRICT THIS FIRST WEEKEND OF DECEMBER.
IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND SOME OF THE AREA, ANGLETON PARTICIPATES IN BRAZOSPORT YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION.
IT'S US, LAKE JACKSON, WEST COLUMBIA, BRAZORIA O1 CLUB, BAY CITY, AND THEN FREEPORT.
OF THOSE CLUBS, WE HAVE WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST COMPLEX, CENTRALIZED BUILDING, MULTISTAR RESTROOMS, PARKING LOT CENTRALIZED CLUBS ARE ALL RIGHT THERE.
YOU GO TO SOME OTHER PLACES AND THEY'RE IN A RETENTION POND AND A MILE, EVERY CAR.
>> WE'RE REALLY WELL EMPLOYED TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITY.
HOT FUNDS, WE USED LAST TIME WE HAD THE TOURNAMENT.
RIGHT NOW ON A REGULAR WEEKEND, WE HAVE 15 TO 20 GAMES BEING PLAYED EACH SATURDAY FOR A NINE OR TEN WEEKEND SEASON WITHIN OUR LOCAL ASSOCIATION BETWEEN THE OTHER CLUBS.
WE DID BREAK 400, THINK FOUR YEARS AGO, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
WE'VE BEEN GROWING CONTINUALLY AND THE CLUB HAS PUT IN OUR OWN FUNDS THROUGH FUND RAISING AND REGISTRATIONS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TURF ITSELF AND PUTTING AC IN THE BUILDING, THE CONCESSION STAND.
WE HAVE A GREAT BOARD THAT'S BEEN WORKING AND PUTTING IN TIME FOR ALL THIS.
THE DIRT IS A DAUNTING PROJECT, FOR SURE, BY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND THE AMOUNT; IT'S ABOUT 15 ACRES OF PLAYING FIELDS, ABOUT 20 ACRE COMPLEX.
WHERE IT WAS BROKEN DOWN IN THE PHASES, THIS MAY ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERN.
WE WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN ONE PHASE AT A TIME, BECAUSE FOR THIS PHASE TO HAPPEN, WE OPERATE SPRING AND FALL EVERY YEAR SINCE COVID, WE HAD A SEASON OFF THERE OTHER THAN THAT, SPRING AND FALL.
THE PHASE THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS MARK WHENEVER WE COME TO DOING THAT PHASE, WHERE WE HAVE TO MOVE THOSE FIELDS ONTO OTHER FIELD SURFACES AND RESTRUCTURE PRACTICE AND GAMES.
IT'S REALLY ONLY CAN DO ONE PHASE AT TIME BY THE TIME YOU DO IT,
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AND IT GROWS IN AROUND SPRINGTIME TO BE READY FOR THE NEXT FALL SEASON.IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU ALL, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL HELP.
>> NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE TOOK SOME STEPS.
I DON'T CARRY AND AS WE'RE HERE, BUT, WHEN THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THE POND THAT SITS ON THE NORTH TRACK OF FREEDOM PARK, WHICH IS A PART OF OUR PARK.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT PUBLICLY ANYWAY.
YET, THAT DIRT WAS HAULED OFF AND NOW IS STORED THERE, HOPEFULLY TO BE.
WE HAVE INVESTED, AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LIGHTS, AND TALKED ABOUT THE PLANS, THE SCHEMATICS THAT WE SEE IN HERE.
WE'RE INTERESTED, AND WE'D LIKE TO HELP YOU.
>> WE DID WHEN WE HAULED THE DIRT FROM FREEDOM OVER.
WE USE A LOCAL COMPANY, WHICH GAVE US A REALLY NICE PRICING.
IT WAS SO MUCH LOWER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES THAT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE ALSO GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.
>> YEAH. WE DID GET PRESSURED.
>> WE GOT A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE ROADS. [LAUGHTER].
>> WELL, THAT LITTLE BYPASS ROAD THAT'S AT THE COMPLEX.
QUITE COVERED YET, BUT WE GOT YOUR DIRT.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT PROJECT?
>> WE HAVE A BALANCING ACT BECAUSE, LIKE TRAVIS MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR RESPONSIBILITY, ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES IS DRAINAGE.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES LIKE MAKING SURE WE HAVE RESOURCES TO BUILD RECREATION CENTERS AND PARKS AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
WHAT'S A BALANCING ACT? ONE FUNCTION, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET DRAIN SO WE CAN HAVE FUN PLACE. IT'S INTERESTING.
>> LITTLE CAVEAT IS GRADING IS ALSO TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE.
GOES HAND IN HAND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT PROJECT?
>> I DO LIKE TRAVIS' IDEA OF MAYBE CALLING AROUND TO WHO YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER TO SEE.
>> JOE'S OUR FINANCE GUY WHO LOOKS ON THE BOND MARKET FOR US.
>> CHECKS THE MARKET AND SEES WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE MAY HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
>> AND LOOKS AT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BALANCE TO SEE IF WE CAN COVER IT.
I INCLUDED IN HERE OUR CIP THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES BACK AND FORTH.
THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS SLATED FOR THIS UPCOMING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
JUST TO REFRESH AROUND THOSE, THE ONES THAT WE HAD SLATED CURRENTLY WAS ADDRESSING ADA TRANSITION PLAN ITEMS, WHICH WAS 209,000.
WE HAVE YET TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT SINCE THE INCLUSION OF THE PLAN OUTSIDE OF USING PARK FUNDS AND OR PARKLAND DEDICATION.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE TPW GRANTS RESERVED FOR ABIGAIL ARIAS.
WE WERE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY DO A MASTER PLAN FOR BATES AND DICKEY.
ALSO LOOKING TO PUT A MASTER PLAN TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO OR I SHOULD SAY, SUPPORTS MORE FOR SKATE PARK.
FREEDOM PARK PLAYGROUND IS ONE OF THEM, AND THE OTHER TWO WE ARE ADDRESSING CURRENTLY.
FREEDOM PARK, THE REASON I WANT TO BRING THIS ONE TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE A REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR ALL OUR PLAYGROUNDS, AND SO WE SET THEM AT 15 YEARS, AND FREEDOM PARK HAS JUST HIT 16 YEARS.
YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET THERE IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH, I'VE PROVIDED SOME PICTURES.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT REPLACEMENTS.
THE PROS AND CONS TO THAT IS, I WOULD SAY IT'S GIVEN US THE FULL 15 YEARS. WE'VE HIT 16.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE STARTED TO SEE A COUPLE MORE THINGS SNEAK UP ON US.
THERE IS A SECTION OF IT THAT RECENTLY BROKE, SO THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED OFF OF ONE OF THE TUNNELS.
THE BOTTOM BROKE OUT OF IT, SO WE'VE CLOSED THAT OFF, SO IT'S NO LONGER OPERATIONAL FOR THAT PIECE.
YES WE'VE GOTTEN GOOD YEARS OUT OF THAT, BUT OUR PROXIMITY TO THE COAST DOES CAUSE OUR STUFF TO WEAR AND TEAR JUST A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.
YOU'D HOPE TO GET 20 YEARS, BUT WE KNOW 15 IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SWEET SPOT.
FREEDOM PARK IS ALSO ONE OF OUR LARGEST PLAYGROUNDS.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACEMENT OF THIS, KEEP THAT IN MIND AS FAR AS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE GOES, IT IS ALMOST DOUBLE THE SIZE OF WHAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR 4TH ABIGAIL.
WE LOOKED AT REAL NUMBERS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE ABIGAIL PROJECT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
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I GOT NUMBERS FROM BURDI AS FAR AS WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY SLATED TO GO IN THERE FOR THE NEW PLAYGROUND THAT IS GOING TO GO INTO ABIGAIL PARK.THEY'RE LOOKING AT A COST OF ANYWHERE $325,000 - 400,000 AS FAR AS THE COST JUST TO DO TO PUT THE PLAYGROUND IN.
THEN WE WERE HOPING TO DO A REPLACEMENT OF POOR PLAY.
THAT WOULD HELP TAKE OFF SOME OF THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE THAT'S WE HAVE TO DO TO REPLACE THE ENGINEER WOOD FIBERS IN THE PLAYGROUNDS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO DO THAT ON ANY PLAYGROUNDS THAT HAVE THOSE, AND SO THAT'S AN ANNUAL COST WE TYPICALLY SEE.
WE'RE LOOKING NORTH OF $400,000 - 500,000 FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERABLE AS A LIFE FOR WORK IN THAT SPACE.
I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL TO TALK ABOUT FOR CONSIDERATION.
WE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE TO LIMP ALONG WITH SOME OF IT.
JUST SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SEE IS WEAR AND TEAR.
WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THIS AND FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THIS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A STANDARD OFFERING FOR THEM AT FREEDOM PARK.
IT IS JUST WE'RE AT THAT POINT.
OPEN THAT ONE UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR YOU.
>> ARE WE LOOKING AT COMPLETE REPLACEMENT, OR ARE WE LOOKING AT SOMETHING TO CARRY US OVER FOR THE NEXT FIVE, TEN YEARS?
>> I WOULD SAY YOUR BEST INVESTMENT WOULD BE A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT.
>> BECAUSE THINK ABOUT THE WAY COSTS GO UP, THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE UP KEEP IN MIND THE DEGRADING OF IT.
THE EQUIPMENT'S DESIGNED TO LAST 15 TO 20 YEARS.
I WOULD ALSO CAUTION TO BE MINDFUL OF YOU TAKING AN AMENITY.
IF YOU PUT IN AMENITY, THAT IS A QUALITY OR LESS.
IT'S NOT AS GREAT AN AMENITY THAT THEY'RE USED TO, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOME OF THAT.
IT'S NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T AND SCALE BACK SOME OF IT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A GREAT PLAYGROUND THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AND IF YOU GO WITH ONE THAT YOU WOULD MORE SEE A SMALL PARK LIKE BRUSHY, IT MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME IMPACT.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY BY DOING THAT.
>> I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IN THE PACKET.
I WAS READING AROUND, WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE, I GUESS THAT WITH THE OTHERS, WITH THE PECK AND WITH THE SOFTBALL AND SUCH.
I WILL SAY THOUGH, ANY KIND OF STRUCTURE YOU HAVE, IT HAS TO BE WORKING TOP-NOTCH BECAUSE THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IS SAFETY.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GO THERE AND GET INJURED AND THAT'S A WHOLE LIABILITY THAT THAT'S GOING TO JUST.
>> THE THING IS WHEN THEY HAVE ANYTHING.
I GUESS MY TAKE IS THAT, IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING NEW OVER HERE THAT'S DIFFERENT AND SUCH.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW HAS TO BE REPLACED TO MAKE SURE IT'S NICE TOP-NOTCH WORK IN ORDER.
WE DON'T KEEP IT, WHAT IT SHOULD BE? DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK?
>> I AGREE. IF I WERE PRIORITIZING JUST ON THIS LIST.
SORRY, GUYS, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE PART.
FREEDOM, BECAUSE YOUR LIABILITY IS TOO HIGH FOR WHAT WE COULD LOSE.
I HATE TO BE A NUMBERS GUY, BUT PLAYGROUND, LOSE KIDS.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE KIDS, TOO, BUT, WHAT YOU WOULD LOSE POTENTIALLY, IN A LAWSUIT, AND THAT PLAYGROUND SUES ACTION EVERY DAY.
>> WELL, IF WE MADE 16 YEARS, THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE PROJECTED TO MAKE 15, WE'RE ON BORROWED TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, TO THESE TWO GENTLEMEN'S CREDIT, THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB, THEY DON'T NEED THE CITY AS MUCH.
MAYBE YOU ALL WEREN'T SO GOOD AT YOUR JOB. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF COST FOR RESOURCES WERE NOT SOMETHING THAT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, BECAUSE WE COULD JUST GET ALL OF THIS BE DONE.
WHY IS COST AN ISSUE? JIM WE HAVE MORE RESOURCES.
>> THAT'S WHAT I TOLD MY WIFE. [LAUGHTER]
>> BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH TO CHOOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER.
>> DEFINITELY. JUST WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CIP PLAN, WE CONTINUE TO LEAVE THINGS IN THERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT ADA AND WE DID THE TRANSITION PLAN, BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TRULY DEDICATE FUNDS TO THAT.
BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING TO MAKE THE DIFFICULT DECISION.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE YEARS IS WE STILL HAVE TRANSITION ITEMS OF ANOTHER 186.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ADDING A SKATE PARK.
WE HAVE ADDING TO THE AVAILABILITY FOR THE REC CENTER.
THAT'S JUST NEXT YEAR ON TOP OF THE OTHER ONES.
WE TALKED ABOUT DOING DRAINAGE IN HERE OR THE PASSIVE AREA FOR FREEDOM PARK.
THE PROJECTS WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE, AND UNFORTUNATELY,
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WE DO HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND TRY TO MAKE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY.>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THESE THREE?
>> WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS GUIDANCE ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE.
AS YOU KNOW, I PRESENTED THE FUND BALANCE PREVIOUSLY.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A FUND BALANCE OF $360,000.
>> NOW, THE OTHER THING I DIDN'T MENTION, HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE JUST UNDER $300,000 RESERVED FOR CONTINGENCY FOR NEXT YEAR.
THERE IS ALSO FUNDING AND CONTINGENCY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT PROJECTS.
NOW, YOU NEVER WANT YOUR FUND BALANCE TO GO DRY, SO YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, BUT $300,000 TO TRY TO PUT TOWARDS ONE PROJECT THAT IS IF SALES TAX IS THERE.
YOUR CONTINGENCY IS YOUR HOPEFUL TO HAVE THE EXTRAS, AND SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO OVERCOMMIT BECAUSE IF YOU SPEND THAT AND THE SALES TAX COMMAND, THEN YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO HIT YOUR FUND BALANCE.
>> I LAUGHED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS.
>> I WAS LOOKING EARLIER AND I WAS SEEING AND I WAS LOOKING AT LIKE LET'S THINK ABOUT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
YOU MAKE THE POINT ABOUT THERE'S A HUGE RETURN OF INVESTMENT.
WE HAVE ALL THESE SOFTBALL KIDS COMING IN.
LOOK AT ALL THAT. YOU LOOK AT THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT FOR SOCCER, YOU HAVE TOURNAMENTS AS WELL.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT FOR THIS PART, YOU SEE THINK THERE'S NO FINANCIAL RETURN OF INVESTMENT UNLESS IT'S JUST LIKE INDIRECT BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A SUIT OR SOMETHING.
OR TAKE CARE OF KIDS. BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT RETURN OR INVESTMENT, MOST PEOPLE THINK ABOUT FINANCIAL RETURN.
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE INVESTMENTS TOWARDS INVESTING IN PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S INTRINSIC. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S INTANGIBLES THERE.
YOU'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY INVEST IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO ONE SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.
PLUS ON THE SAME TICKET AS THAT? YOU HAVE THE SAFETY FACTOR.
THAT'S A LOT. I HATE TO HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THOSE, BUT WHEN YOU PRIORITIZE, YOU HAVE TO JUST WEIGH OFF THE THINGS.
>> WELL, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, WE DECIDED BACK THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO WITH SOFTBALL FIELD.
WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THE SOFTBALL FIELD AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT COVERS AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
BUT DEFINITELY THE SIXTH SOFTBALL FIELD SEEMED TO BE THE PRIORITY FOR AT LEAST LAST YEAR AND IT SEEMED TO BE THE PRIORITY COMING UP TO THIS YEAR.
>> WELL, I'LL SAY I AGREE WITH YOU.
OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNEW THE PLAYGROUND SAID THAT FREEDOM WAS GOING TO GO TO THE SHAPE WE WERE. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE WERE TRYING TO FIND BALANCE.
WE WERE COMMITTED ALMOST ONE MILLION DOLLARS TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LITTLE GIRLS AREN'T FORGOTTEN IN THE CITY, TOO, AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL.
I JUST DO REALLY WORRY ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE PLAYGROUND SET.
BUT IF YOU'RE EXPECTING SOMETHING TWICE OF WHAT'S GOING IN ANGLETON AREAS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY TO FUND THAT.
>> RECOMMENDATION I CAN GIVE IS OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW LOOKING AT FUND BALANCE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND ALL THE PROJECTS.
CURRENT DIRECTIVE GIVEN WAS TO REACH OUT TO JOE MORROW AND TALK ABOUT WHAT A GOING OUT FOR A BOND WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN.
I COULD START TO DO THAT, GET WITH JOE, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, POTENTIALLY HAVE HIM COME TO OUR MEETING IN OCTOBER AND START TO PRESENT THAT OF WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.
THE OTHER ONE WE CAN DO IS I COULD FURTHER DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE PLAYGROUND PIECE, REACH OUT TO A COUPLE VENDORS AND GET MORE HARD NUMBERS AND HAVE THEM PROVIDE LEVELS, IF YOU WILL.
THEY COULD QUOTE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
HERE'S A REDUCED FEATURE OR REDUCED FOOTPRINTS, AND HERE'S A COMPARABLE.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GO OFF OF FROM THAT AND PRESENT THAT, SO THEN YOU HAVE HARDER NUMBERS TO REALLY PLAY INTO.
I SEE SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS MAYBE FALL IN LINE MORE WITH THE BOND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE ALREADY KNOW THE SPECIFIC COSTS A ROUGH ESTIMATE FOR COSTS FOR THE SOCCER GRADING.
WE KNOW THAT. WE'RE GETTING CLOSER ON KNOWING WHAT THE COST FOR THE SOCCER FIELD OR FOR SOFTBALL FIELDS WOULD BE.
WE CAN BRING THIS BACK IN OCTOBER AND TRY TO ALIGN IT IN THAT WAY TO SEE WHAT OUR SPENDING POWER COULD BE IN THE FUTURE AND WHEN IF WE TREND WELL,
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AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT EXTRA FUNDS WE HAVE, AND THAT COULD COME WITH SOME VERY SPECIFIC HARD NUMBERS ON PLAYGROUNDS.>> JASON? ARE WE 100% SURE THAT WE CANNOT JUST REPAIR PART OF THE PLAYGROUND.
>> THE PROBLEM YOU RUN INTO, A LOT OF OUR ISSUES ARE WITH THE PLATFORMS AND SO BECAUSE OF HOW EVERYTHING UNFORTUNATELY GOES THESE DAYS IS THOSE ARE BUILT AROUND THAT TIME FRAME, AND THAT IS NO LONGER THE PIECE THAT THEY HAVE.
THEY EVOLVE AND CHANGE THE PRODUCT THAT THEY OFFER.
A LOT OF IT BEING THE PLATFORM, YOU COULD REPLACE THE PLATFORM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE POST IS GOING TO HOLD WHAT IT IS.
MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO REPLACE BECAUSE ONE OF THEM WAS THE PLASTIC CRAWL THROUGH SPACES? CORRECT, AND BROKE.
THE MATERIAL IS STARTING TO SO YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO START TO SEE MORE EITHER CLOSING THE SECTIONS AND REMOVING THEM OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO REGULAR REPAIRS THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO ADD UP.
>> SIMILAR SITUATION TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PLAY AREA AT THE POOL AT THE REC CENTER.
WITH THE SPLASH AREAS AND ALL THAT?
>> OVER TIME, IT JUST STARTS TO BREAK DOWN AND TRYING TO ADDRESS IT IS MORE PUTTING A BAND AID FIX ON IT.
THERE'S SO MANY SECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE OF RUST AND CORROSION THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SAY, I'M GOING TO REPLACE THIS ONE AND PUT THAT COST INTO IT.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SPENDING A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY TO REPLACE PORTIONS OF IT, BUT NOT HAVE A PLAYGROUND THAT'S GOING TO LAST YOU 15 YEARS.
>> WOULD IT THERE HAPPEN TO BE A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT COMPANY THAT OFFERS MODULES, SAY LIKE WE GOT A LARGE ONE, MAYBE HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE THING OUT, BUT WE COULD PUT IN ONE SECTION, PLANNING ON PUTTING IN ANOTHER SECTION WITHIN A YEAR?
>> DOING IT THAT WAY MAYBE WE COULD FIT SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT PLAYGROUND.
>> YOU DEFINITELY CAN. I WILL SAY THE BIGGEST HICCUP YOU WILL RUN INTO IS IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO LIMIT THAT THERE IS AGE RANGES FOR THE EQUIPMENT.
AS WE HAVE ONE FOR FIVE AND UNDER AND THE 5-12, YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE ONLY FOCUSING ON ONE GROUP.
YOU WOULD BE PUTTING IN A PLAYGROUND FOR A VERY SPECIFIC AGE GROUP AND THAT WOULD NO LONGER ALLOW THE YOUNGER AGE GROUP OR THE OLDER AGE GROUP, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO. BUT WE ABSOLUTELY COULD.
WE COULD HAVE THEM BREAK DOWN AND SHOW WHAT THAT COST DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IF WE WENT IN MORE OF A PHASED APPROACH.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A LONG TERM OUTLOOK OF WHAT IT IS AND YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
>> BASICALLY GOING BACK TO THE ITEM ITSELF, THOUGH.
IT'S SOFTBALL FIELD, SOCCER COMPLEX, AND THEN THE FREEDOM PARK, THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIORITIZING?
>> I'M PROVIDING RECOMMENDATION ON HOW YOU'D LIKE STAFF TO PROCEED.
>> GREAT. GUYS, I THINK THAT THE SOFTBALL FIELD HAS GOT TO BE THE PRIORITY BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE CAN'T DO THAT AS SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT.
WE COULD UPGRADE THE SOCCER COMPLEX, WE COULD DO THE FREEDOM PARK.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DONE THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO BE DONE.
BUT GOT TO HAVE THE PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE THAT SOFTBALL FIELD BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE HAVE NO TOURNAMENTS.
>> I BELIEVE THAT TOURNAMENTS ALREADY BEEN CONFIRMED FOR THIS AREA.
>> CONTINGENCY ON THE SIX FIELD.
>> NOW WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT SIX FIELD IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE.
>> BUT THAT IS THE FIRST PRIORITY, THEN THE QUESTION WE'RE BASICALLY THEN SAYING IS, IS THAT WHAT'S THE SECOND PRIORITY IS IT THE SOCCER FIELDS OR THE FREEDOM PARK? BASED ON BASED ON THOSE TWO, I'M THINKING THAT THE SOCCER COMPLEXES WOULD BE THE THING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY IT'S THE THING IT'S THE THING THAT WOULD BRING FOLKS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT THEY WOULD BE SEEING US.
>> WHEN DID WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE DISREPAIR OF THE FREEDOM PARK?
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>> FREEDOM PARK HAS BEEN SLATED TO BE REP LIKE BASED ON OUR REPLACEMENT PLAN, A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK, WE HAD ONE OF THE SECTIONS BROKE.
THAT'S WHERE IT CAME MORE TO LIGHT, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS ON OUR CIP PLAN FOR CONSIDERATION.
THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS SLATED IN THERE.
WE PUT IT A 15 YEAR REPLACEMENT WHEN WE INSTALLED UP.
WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR ALL OUR PLAYGROUNDS, WHETHER IT BE SOCCER COMPLEX, DICKIE PARK HAD THE TWO.
THOSE THREE WERE REPLACED VERY RECENTLY WITHIN THE PAST THREE YEARS.
WE KNOW THAT THOSE SHOULD BE REPLACED AND SO WE JUST GOT TO THAT POINT THAT WE'VE HIT IN OUR 15 YEARS.
WE'RE AT THAT REPLACEMENT PIES AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT IS IN COMPLETE DISREPAIR, BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS OF AREAS THAT COULD, SO EXAMPLE, PARKS GUYS DID A PATCH ON ONE OF THE PLATFORMS, AND WHEN YOU PATCH A PLATFORM, THAT IS NOT A LONG-TERM FIX, THAT IS A SHORT-TERM FIX BECAUSE YOU ARE COMPROMISING THE BOLD AND PUTTING IN NEW.
WE MAY RUN INTO MORE OF THAT THE THING TO CONSIDER IS IF THOSE RUSTED AREAS BECOME LARGER AND START TO BREAK, YOU'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE HOLES IN YOUR PLATFORM, AND IF IT'S NOT REPAIRABLE, YOU'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT AMENITY.
THE COMMUNITY WON'T HAVE THAT AMENITY AVAILABLE.
>> LIKE THE PLAY FEATURE AT THE [INAUDIBLE] PLAY FEATURE IN THE [INAUDIBLE] WAS CLOSED FOR TWO YEARS.
>> REALITY IN MY MIND ON THAT ISSUE IS UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT IS THE KIDS GOING TO FALL THROUGH THE PLATFORM.
>> THEY'RE USUALLY DON'T SHUT IT DOWN PREEMPTIVELY.
WE USUALLY WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN AND THEN THERE'S A REACTION AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM.
WE CAN KEEP PLAYING THIS GAME. WHO KNOWS? WE MAY BE GOOD FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS? WE JUST DON'T KNOW. ALSO, IT MAY NOT BE.
>> WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE, AND IT'S REACHED BEYOND THAT POINT.
SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE.
>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS A CONVERSATION.
THAT WE DO NEED TO INVOLVE JOE ON BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THERE COULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $750,000-$800,000 TO MAKE THAT REPLACEMENT?
>> IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE THAT YOU GO.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN FIND WAYS TO REALITY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S A NUMBERS GAME.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE SO COULD WE GET SOMETHING COMPARABLE AND IT BE SCALED BACK A LITTLE BIT, PROBABLY.
EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS CUNNINGHAM RECREATION IS ONE OF THE VENDORS WE'VE USED IN THE PAST.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A GRANT AVAILABLE THAT ACTS AS LIKE A 50/50 MATCH.
YOU'RE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE AND SO YOU CAN GET SOME.
THERE ARE ALWAYS WAYS TO WORK WITHIN, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A GUARANTEE.
GOING INTO IT LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PLAN FOR BUT IF YOU SAID, I'M DEDICATING $400,000 TO THIS PROJECT, $400,000 IS THE BUDGET I WORK WITH, THEN WE GO, JUST LIKE OUR BONDS.
WE KNOW THAT WE DEDICATED $900,000 TO THE FREEDOM PARK FIELD AT THE BASEBALL FIELD, $900,000 IS WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
UNLESS WE COME UP WITH SOME OTHER MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT WHEN WE GO FOR CONSTRUCTION, IF WE HAVE $900,000 TO WORK WITH, THAT'S WHAT WE GO WITH.
IF YOU'LL WANT TO SAY WE HAVE $300,000, WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE TO AGSA.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS THEM GET THEIR PARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ENOUGH MONEY.
THEN IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT TAKING SOME PREEMPTIVE MEASURES OUT AT FREEDOM.
IF IT MAY REQUIRE A CHANGING SOME PLATFORMS, WE MAY HAVE TO GO PUT SOME WOOD DOWN EVEN THOUGH IT'S PREEMPTIVELY, BUT TO BUY US A YEAR OR TWO OR A SUPPORT UNDERNEATH MAYBE NOT ON TOP, BUT MAYBE DO SOMETHING UNDERNEATH I DON'T KNOW.
THEN LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH JOE. I DON'T KNOW.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE GOT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH WHAT WE'RE REPLACING.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A HUGE UNKNOWN.
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WHICH I LEAN TOWARDS.IF WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE PARK, WE SHOULD TRY TO COME SOMEONE COMPARABLE OR WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO DOWNGRADE.
>> IF WE BRING JOE IN, IF I CAN GET THEM IN TO COME INTO OUR NEXT MEETING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT, AND IF WE WORK TO GET MORE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS.
>> WE NEED SOME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.
>> BECAUSE THE SOFTBALL FIELD, WE HAVE TIME ON.
WE HAVE TIME TO WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT AND SO IF WE BRING THAT, THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SOME OF OUR VENDORS TO SEE MORE HARD NUMBERS, WE CAN REACH OUT TO FENCING CONTRACTOR TO SEE WITHOUT WHAT LOOK POINT TO TRY TO CONCRETE WORK TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT A SOFTBALL FIELD WOULD LOOK LIKE AND BRING THAT BACK.
AGAIN, SOCCER COMPLEX, WE HAVE MORE REAL NUMBERS, WHEREAS THE OTHER TWO ARE UNKNOWNS.
WE CAN BRING THAT BACK, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET IN OCTOBER.
WE CAN BRING THAT BACK IN OCTOBER AND HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION OF IT.
>> IN MY MIND, WHEN WE WENT TO OUT FOR THE CEOS, WERE THEY CONSIDERED IN THE FISCAL 24 YEAR OR THE 20 THIS YEAR, 25? I KNOW HE SIGNED IN 24, BUT IS IT CONSIDERED.
>> I BELIEVE LAST YEARS, CORRECT.
>> THE 24 CEOS WAS LAST YEAR'S TWO?
>> WE'RE TWO YEARS. NEXT MOVING INTO 26, IN THEORY, WE'VE BOUGHT A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION HERE.
>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO.
>> THAT MONEY'S ALREADY FUNDED.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT IS IT ALREADY EXISTS OR.
>> IT EXISTS. WE HAVE GOT THAT.
THE GRANT IS A MATCHING GRANT, SO EVERY TIME WE SUBMIT A INVOICE FOR IT, THEY'LL REIMBURSE US FOR IT.
WE SUBMIT THE INVOICE AND WE HAVE UP TO $750,000.
WE HAVE JUST UNDER 2.6, I THINK, AFTER THE CONTRACTS AS FAR AS DESIGN.
>> BY GETTING THE GRANT, WE GOT OURSELVES MAYBE $600,000 MORE? WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT CITY COUNCIL SIDE, AND I THINK OUR SIDE WAS THAT IT'S NOT THE END PRODUCT.
IT WILL BE BEGINNING PRODUCT THAT WE WILL BUILD UPON.
>> WHAT'S THE TIMELINE [INAUDIBLE] TALKING BOUT TRYING TO BREAK DOWN. YOU SAID YOU SAW.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT'S ONE OF OUR AGENDA HERE HERE, THAT'S ALL.
I THINK IT'S OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.
BUT THAT MONEY'S ALREADY COMMITTED.
YOU CAN'T. I DON'T THINK WE COULD TAKE IT TO ANOTHER PART, CAN WE AND IT WASN'T.
>> NOT TO RE ALLOCATE, I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE OF IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE PUT IN THE BOND TO SPECIFIC PARK.
I THINK IT JUST LISTS THE PARK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] BUT IT'S THAT PARK, NOT THIS PART AS MUCH.
>> BATES PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE.
IT WAS PROBABLY ABIGAIL, EG PASS, DRAINAGE.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] FREEDOM IS ON THERE.
>> PERIOD. BUT MAN, THAT'S A LIGHTNING STORE, MAN, YOU [INAUDIBLE].
>> I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT RE-APPROPRIATE, I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT WORD.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT LIKE IT'S A ROUGH PETER TO BALL.
COULD WE BORROW FROM IT TO DO THIS, AND THEN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S BEING BORROWED ALREADY AGAINST OUR GENERAL FUND.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LEVERAGING TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> ALL READY [INAUDIBLE] TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING.
>> TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I UNDERSTAND. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WHERE YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
>> BUT LIKE JOHNNY MENTIONED EARLIER, THE FACT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SOFTBALL FIELDS. I'M [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT.
SAFETY FACTOR THE ISSUE AT THE SAME TIME, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOFTBALL FIELDS FOR THE LONGEST.
LIKE I SAID, JUST SEE WHAT COMES FOR THE NEXT MEETING TWO MONTHS, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR THE SOFTBALL.
BUT THAT 1.3 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, MAY BE SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT BONDING OUT AND THEN INSTEAD OF DRAGGING IT OUT, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, CAN YOU STILL HAVE TOURNAMENTS THERE?
>> IT'S JUST STIFF FLOODING. LIKE ALL THINGS, IT'S SPORTS.
YOU'RE OUTSIDE, YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THE WEATHER, AND IF THE WEATHER IS BAD ENOUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
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>> [OVERLAPPING] IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR DRAINAGE IS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STANDING WATER AT SOME POINT.
I JUST KNOW DUSTIN HAS ISSUES WITH THAT IN THE PAST.
>> NO. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. MY ANKLE DEEPED BEFORE.
>> TO DUSTIN'S POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CONSIDER IF IT WASN'T BONDS, WE WOULD HAVE FIVE YEARS TO SPEND IT, SO IT COULD BE ONE THAT'S STILL PHASED APPROACH, AND WE JUST DEDICATE SPECIFIC MONEY AND WORK ON IT IN THE OFF SEASON EVERY YEAR.
I'M HERE AND BRING IT BACK NEXT IN OCTOBER.
BRING JOE MORROW IN, TALK ABOUT THAT AND BRING SOME HARDER NUMBERS ON THE OTHER STUFF.
>> MY OPINION IS LEAVE YOU SOME DISCRETION.
>> IF JOE LOOKS AT YOU AND LAUGHS, DON'T WASTE JOE'S TIME BRINGING HIM.
JUST TELL US THAT, WHENEVER WE HAVE A MEETING, THEY'RE LIKE, WE CAN'T DO THIS. IT'S NOT THE TIME.
>> IN REALITY TILL WE GET HARDER NUMBERS TO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST SAYING, IT COST THE CITY MONEY BRING JOE IN.
LET'S NOT BRING JOE IF HE'S JUST GOING TO TELL US WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS.
>> SOMETIMES YOUR EYES ARE BIGGER THAN YOUR.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO. ABSOLUTELY. IT DOESN'T HURT TO ASK THE QUESTION.
WE PRESENT THE THINGS TO HIM AND GET HIS INITIAL FEEDBACK.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR THAT ITEM? I THINK THAT WAS FIVE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? FOR ITEM NUMBER 6,
[6. Discussion and possible action on Angleton Recreation Center Pool Hours and ARC staffing.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE HANLTON RECREATION CENTER POOL HOURS AND ARC STAFFING. HOLD ON, ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY.>> HEY, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL DEDICATION TO ANGLETON. REALLY, I APPRECIATE IT.
>> NO, YOU'RE OKAY. THIS WAS THE DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT IN MEETINGS PRIOR.
I WAS ASKED TO BRING US BACK TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE FULL IN DEPTH ON THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AS FAR AS SOME OF OUR COVERAGE GOES.
AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND CONTINUED TO PRESENT, WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST OUR BUDGETS BASED ON LIFEGUARDS AND EXPECTATION THAT COMES WITH THAT.
WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME STRUGGLES HIRING LIFEGUARDS.
WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT NUMBERS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
WE EVALUATED NUMBERS FOR OUR PEAK SEASON AND OUR NON PEAK SEASON.
SO YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET THERE, WE'VE BROKEN IT OUT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT FULL USE OF THE POOL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE MOST POPULAR TIMES.
BASED ON THOSE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT, WE LOOKED AT OUR NON PEAK SEASON FIRST.
OUR NON PEAK SEASON, WE'D ACTUALLY JUST CHANGED TO HELP SUPPORT OUR BUDGETS.
WE USED TO RUN THAT THROUGH LABOR DAY, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR STAFFING ISSUES OF TRYING TO GET LIFEGUARDS ON AND ALSO OUR SEVERE DROP OFF AND USAGE, WE DECIDED TO ALIGN THAT MORE WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS CALENDAR.
WE STARTED A NON PEAK SEASON THE FIRST WEEK OF THE SCHOOL STARTING, SO THAT WAY IT WOULD TAKE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PRESSURE AS FAR AS KEEPING THE POOL OPEN THE ENTIRE TIME.
OUR NON PEAK SEASON WOULD REALLY GO FROM ABOUT SEPTEMBER THROUGH THE END OF MAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE EVALUATED THE FIRST TIME AS FAR AS THE NON PEAK SEASON, AND THEN OUR PEAK SEASON IS JUNE, JULY AND PART OF AUGUST.
IT JUST GETS YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS WHAT WE WERE EVALUATING TO LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS.
STAFF WENT BACK TO RUN NUMBERS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS TO TRY TO GET AN AVERAGE FOR THAT.
WHAT WE FOUND IS OUR MORNING TIME IS THE SLOWEST TIME THAT WE HAVE.
THE BEST COMPARISON I CAN GIVE YOU FOR THAT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE SWITCHED OUR CLOSURE FOR NON PEAK SEASON 11:30-4:30.
THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS WE WERE AVERAGING TWO TO THREE PEOPLE IN THAT FIVE HOUR TIME FRAME.
COST WISE, THAT'S NOT A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO BUSINESS IS TO OPEN TO HAVE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE COME IN AND STAFF AN ENTIRE POOL.
WE DECIDED TO CLOSE THE POOL FOR THAT TIME.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SIMILAR THING, SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND SEEK INPUT ON THIS.
BASED ON THAT, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT OUR FIRST COUPLE HOURS OF USAGE ARE WAY DOWN.
WE'RE AVERAGING ANYWHERE 2-4 PEOPLE TO COME IN TO USE THE POOL.
>> 5:30 IN THE MORNING IS WHEN IT OPENS.
>> I SEE A MUCH LARGER CROWD THAN THAT ONE WHEN I'M THERE, AND I'M THERE AT 6:00 A.M.
>> I USUALLY DO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING INTO THERE. HOW MANY YOU'RE SAYING?
>> IT AVERAGES TWO TO FOUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THE POOL OPENS AT 5:30, AND SO WHEN THEY STARTED TO DO NUMBER.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TO FOUR AN HOUR, TWO TO FOUR WHAT?
>> TO TO FOUR PEOPLE ON AVERAGE FROM.
>> [OVERLAPPING] FROM 5:30 TO WHEN?.
>> THAT'S JUST GOING TO THE POOL.
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>> THE GYM MIGHT BE FOUR OR SOMETHING.
>> YES. I KNOW SILVER SNEAKERS USES A DIFFERENT SYSTEM TO BADGE IN.
>> THEY SCAN IN ON THEIR MODULE AND THE OTHER ONE, BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY STAFF COLLECT THESE ON AN HOURLY BASIS, AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENT REPORTING SYSTEM THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCANS.
BECAUSE THE SCAN DOESN'T ACTUALLY TELL US WHERE THEY'RE GOING, AND SO STAFF DO COUNTS ON A REGULAR BASIS ONCE AN HOUR TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT ALL THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING.
>> THIS IS BASED OFF OF ME WALKING INTO THE REC CENTER SAYING, ''HEY, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE POOL RIGHT NOW.''
>> IT'S BASED ON STAFF PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THAT SPACE.
OUR FRONT DESK WILL TAKE THE COUNTS FOR THE WEIGHT ROOM AND REPORT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM AT THE 5:00 HOUR, THE 6:00 HOUR, THE 7:00 HOUR.
NOW, KEEP IN MIND IT'S NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AT 5:00 AND THEY DO ACCOUNT, OR IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AT 5:10 AND THEY DO ACCOUNT AT 5:05, AND THEY LEAVE BEFORE 6:00, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS CAPTURE THAT DEPENDING ON WHEN THE ACCOUNTS ARE DONE.
>> I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING IN IN THE MORNING.
>> I WILL SAY OUR PICK UP IS RIGHT AROUND THE 7:00 TIME FRAME.
THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.
WE ARE BRINGING THIS BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS REQUIRES FIVE LIFEGUARDS TO STAFF THE POOL.
THE COST HAVE RISEN, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COST, IT'S ABOUT $2,000 A WEEK TO STAFF THE MORNING TIME FRAME ONLY.
THAT'S JUST OUR NORMAL WEEKLY HOURS.
THAT'S AN ANNUAL COST OF ABOUT $98,000, IS WHAT IS BEING SPENT ON THE MORNING LIFEGUARDS ALONE.
LOOKING AT THAT, WE SEE AN UPTAKE AS WE GO ON.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE 7:00, 08:00 HOUR IS WHEN IT STARTS TO INCREASE, AND SO JUST WANTED TO BRING TO ALL FOR A DISCUSSION FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT DOESN'T MEAN ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN TO SAY YES, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE LIFEGUARDS NO MATTER WHAT? IF SOMEONE GOES TO THE POOL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE.
>> OUR STANDARD IS FIVE FOR COVERAGE BECAUSE WE CANNOT SAY WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO GO SWIM, AND YOU'RE A LIFEGUARD.
LET'S SAY TWO PEOPLE COME IN AND SOMEBODY'S IN THE HOT TUB AND SOMEBODY'S IN THE LAP LANES, THE SAME LIFE GUARD CAN'T COVER ALL THOSE AREAS.
AS SOON AS SOMEBODY IS ON POOL DECK, FOUR GUARDS ARE UP AND ONE IS DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE ON STAND FOR AN HOUR BEFORE THEY HAVE TO ALLOW THEIR EYES TO REST.
>> IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL BREAK. IT'S REALLY A BREAK FROM WATCHING THE WATER.
>> WE HAVE TO HAVE FIVE LIFEGUARDS WITH ONE INDIVINDUAL?
>> YOU FIGURE IF ONE PERSON'S COMING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GROUP.
YOU HAVE TO TREAT IT LIKE YOU HAVE A POOL FULL OF PEOPLE.
>> ONE PERSON IN THE POOL OR 150 PEOPLE IN THE POOL.
>> YES. IT IS A ZONE OF COVER?
>> BECAUSE THEY COULD GO ANYWHERE.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, OUR POOL AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE HAS A LOT OF BLIND SPOT.
>> IT DOES. I NOTICED THEY ON THERE.
>> WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER PEAK SEASON VERSUS NON PEAK SEASON?
>> OUR PEAK SEASON IS BASICALLY SUMMER.
>> WE START THE MEMORIAL DAY, AND THEN WE CHANGE THIS YEAR TO GO BACK TO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK I WOULD BE OPEN TO MAKING THESE CHANGES.
REDUCING HOURS, IF WE EXPANDED PEAK SEASON A LITTLE BIT.
>> GO MAY TO LIKE THROUGH SEPTEMBER.
BEGIN IN MAY, IT BASICALLY GIVES YOU FIVE MONTHS AND SEVEN OTHER MONTHS, AND THEN YOU REDUCE YOUR HOURS WAY BACK IN THE MORNING HOURS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
>> BUT YOU KNOW THOUGH, THE ONLY THING IS THAT THE PATRONS IN THE MORNING TIME BETWEEN FIVE, WHATEVER AND SEVEN, THEY'RE PROBABLY AN OLDER GROUP OF PATRONS.
>> THAT PEAK SEASON WOULD REALLY AFFECT THOSE GUYS.
WHAT AFFECTS THOSE GUYS MORE OR LESS IS THEY WANT TO GET UP EARLY AND GET THE DAY STARTED.
IF THOSE GUYS CAN PUSH BACK UNTIL 7:00, IT'LL BE A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY.
>> AT WHAT TIME DO THEY COME IN? DO THEY COME IN AT FIVE, OR DO THEY COME IN AT LIKE 6:30?
>> THE REALITY IS YOU'LL LOSE PEOPLE.
THAT JUST HAPPENS. THAT'S KNOWN TO BE.
>> IT TRULY IS AN FORTUNE REALITY.
I WISH WE COULD BE OPEN 24 HOURS AS SOME PEOPLE ASK.
BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS OF WHAT IS THE BEST FOR OPERATIONS.
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IS THE COST THERE OR DO WE CONTINUE AS IT IS? TO YOUR POINTS, THERE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PEOPLE TO CONSIDER EXPANDING THE HOURS IN THE PEAK SEASON, AND WE DID RECENTLY THIS PAST YEAR, REDUCE OUR HOURS TO CLOSE AT 7:30.I THINK PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THAT IN THE SUMMER.
BUT NON PEAK SEASON, I WILL SAY AFTER 7:00 IS THE POOL REALLY GOES DOWN SO.
>> BUT PEAK SEASON IS WHERE WE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST TO RUN IT 5:30-7:30 AND THEN JUST SHUT IT DOWN.
I SAY SHUT IT DOWN, BUT UNTIL WHAT? I MEAN, FIVE IN THE EVENING.
>> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A PRETTY GOOD HEAD COUNT WHENEVER YOU CHANGE IT 5:30-7:00, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD FIT, AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT.
THIS IS THE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED.
>> WE DEFINITELY GOT THAT THE FIRST TIME WE CLOSED FOR THAT LARGE GAP.
BECAUSE THEY USED TO CLOSE FOR TWO HOURS DURING THE DAY, AND WE TOOK EXACTLY THAT, AND WE GOT THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE WHO COMPLAINED ABOUT CLOSING DURING THE DAY.
>> 3:00-4:00 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK.
>> IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. NOW THAT IT'S BEEN A NORM, WE GET COMPLAINTS HERE AND THERE, WE WISH YOU WERE OPEN.
BUT THAT'S MAYBE ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTH.
SOMEONE SAYS, ''I WISH YOU WERE OPEN PAST 11:30 AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THE ONE ISN'T INCONDUCIVE FOR US.
YES, WE WOULD PROBABLY GET THAT. WE WOULD KNOW.
I WILL SAY THE OTHER ONE IS OUR WATER AEROBICS PROGRAM IN THE MORNING IS THE MAIN REASON.
>> THAT PIECE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT AVERAGES 20-35 PEOPLE.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT YOU.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT TIME TIME IS IT?
>> I WOULD LEAVE THOUGH AN HOUR BEFORE THAT FOR PEOPLE TO SWIM.
>> OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO BE 7:00. UNTIL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHEN WOULD THIS GOT TO PLAY?
>> WE WOULD CONSIDER OCTOBER 1.
>> AGAIN, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
IF WE WENT FULL CALENDAR OCTOBER 1ST, ALL THE WAY AROUND TO APRIL AND START OUR MORE PEAK HOURS.
CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT PICKS UP IN THE SUMMERTIME.
ALSO, I DON'T KNOW, PERSONALLY, IT'S LIKE THE WATER'S COLDER.
>> WE COULD TRANSFER THAT, OR ONLY WE COULD DO A NON PEAK IS 7:00 TO 11 30 AND THEN THE 4:30 TO 730.
THEN PEAK GOES BACK TO EARLIER TIME FRAME.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO.
OUR PEAK SEASON, WE ARE OPEN CURRENTLY 5:30 A.M. - 7:30 P.M. STRAIGHT THROUGH.
>> PEAK SEASON, THE POOL IS OPEN THE ENTIRE TIME DURING THE DAY, THEN THE WEEKEND.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS.
>> I'M JUST MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT WE HAVE TO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE TO CLOSE FOR CERTAIN REASONS, YES.
KNOCK ON WOOD PEAK SEASON, WE ARE USUALLY OKAY BECAUSE SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION.
WE HAVE A GREATER POOL TO PULL FROM OF CANDIDATES OR APPLICANTS FOR LIFE-GUARDING.
WHEN SCHOOL GOES BACK IN SESSION IS WHEN WE REALLY STRUGGLE BECAUSE 80 TO 90% OF OUR STAFF IS HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE AVAILABILITY DURING THE DAY.
BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE IS ASK FINDING RELIABLE STAFF TO COME IN AT 5:00 A.M. TO SERVE A SHIFT THAT COULD RUN TILL 11:30.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HAVE YOU EVER ADVERTISED OR TRIED ADVERTISING FOR LIFEGUARDS EVER AT RASPORT COLLEGE OR ALVIN COLLEGE? GOOD.
>> NEGATIVE FOR ALVIN IS THAT THEY HAVE THEIR NEW FACILITY THERE, SO THEY PULL THE LIFEGUARDS FROM ALVIN.
>> SURPRISINGLY, THEY PAY LESS THAN WE DO. ABOVE $1 OR LESS.
>> I'M COOL WITH THE HOURS. LIKE YOU MENTIONED, ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT ONE INDUSTRY THAT DOES IT REALLY WELL AS FOR CLOSING DURING MIDDAY, RESTAURANTS.
REALLY NICE RESTAURANTS CLOSE BETWEEN LIKE WHAT? ONE AND TWO OR SOMETHING, TWO OR THREE, TO FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX.
THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE YOUR PATRONS.
IN THIS INDUSTRY, IF YOU HAVE HOURS SET AND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE HOURS ARE, THEY WAS SCHEDULED TO COME IN DURING THOSE HOURS.
SET THE HOURS IS BEST WITH PEAK TIMES OF THE DAY, SO THAT WAY,
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YOU'RE EXPENDING COST OF HAVING LIFEGUARDS FOR ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN THE POOL.I THINK THAT'S GREAT, PEAK SEASON KEEP IT LIKE IT IS.
JUST SHUT THOSE HOURS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT IN NON PEAK SEASON.
>> YEAH, I CAN SEE LIKE IF I KNEW THE POOL WAS OPEN AT 5:30, IF I HAPPENED TO BE FOR SOME REASON AWAKE AT THAT TIME, AND FELT LIKE GOING SWIMMING, IT'D BE NICE, SO I GOT THE POOL ALL TO MYSELF.
I GOT FIVE YOUNG PEOPLE WATCHING ME.
I'M GOING TO WALK UP AND DOWN THE POOL BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY DOING SWIMMING.
>> MY OWN INFORMAL HEADCOUNT BECAUSE I REALLY THINK IT'S MORE THAN TWO TO FOUR.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I'M THERE 5:30 AT 6:00 AM.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M HAPPY TO DO MORE IN DEPTH AND BRING THIS BACK IN OCTOBER AS A DISCUSSION.
OUR BUDGET WE ALREADY DID OUR BUDGETS, SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
THIS WOULD JUST HELP REDUCE COST.
WE COULD EVALUATE THIS ANY POINT AND WE COULD SET THIS TO GO INTO EFFECT DECEMBER 1ST OR JANUARY 1ST, LIKE WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH ALL THAT.
>> I THINK IF YOU PUSH IT BACK MORE, IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE INSTABILITY AND CONFUSION WITH PEOPLE.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO IT NOW, OCTOBER 1ST, AND WE SPEND THE NEXT TWO WEEKS MAY MAN, TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE POOL.
AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SIX PEOPLE COMING INTO THE WRECK BETWEEN 5:30 AND 7:00.
THAT'S WHEN THAT BIG CROWD COMES IN.
IF YOU HAVE 30 PEOPLE BARGING IN.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE GYM? SO WE PROBABLY KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT I THINK IF YOU PUSH IT BACK TO DECEMBER, IT'S GOING TO LAST UNTIL MAY.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, WELL, WHY ARE WE CHANGING.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE MORE. WHAT ARE WE DOING?
NON-PEAK SEASON IS NON-PEAK SEASON.
THERE'S A REASON WHY SCHOOLS, MOSTLY THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR BIGGEST.
>> SEVEN IS NOT TERRIBLY, IS NOT THAT LATE. LET'S BE HONEST.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO SWIM BEFORE THEY GO TO WORK, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A SEVEN.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR MOST PEOPLE TO GET TO WORK BY EIGHT O'CLOCK OR 8:15 OR WHATEVER TIME THEY'RE TRYING TO BE WHEREVER.
>> I SEE IT BECAUSE WHEN I'M THERE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO LEAVE IN WORK ATTIRE, WHETHER IT'S NURSES OR NO MAX FOR PEOPLE AT TO PLANTS OR WHATEVER.
>> WHAT IF WE PUSHED IT BACK 5:30 TO 6:00 TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP IN THAT FIRST 30 MINUTES?
>> I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY COULD.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT DOESN'T SAVE YOU A LOT, BUT IT SAVES YOU THAT 30 MINUTES TO WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, LET'S SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO SHOW UP AT SIX.
THE SECONDARY PIECE THAT COMES TO THIS IS PART OF THE REQUEST IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO STAFF A SECONDARY PERSON AT THE FRONT DESK.
OUR LIFEGUARDS CURRENTLY COME IN AT FIVE TO CREATE BALANCE FOR SAFETY IN THE FACILITY.
IF WE PUSH IT BACK, WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND PERSON AS ONLY ONE PERSON MANAGING THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
>> I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS, JASON.
SO WHAT SAYS THAT, DATA CAUSED US TO SAVE $16,000.
BUT THEN THE PERSON WOULD COST 7,600, WHICH WOULD NET, I'LL SAVE IT TO $6,000.
I SAY, IS IT WORTH IT FOR THE $6,000 TO INCONVENIENCE THOSE PATRONS FROM FIVE O'CLOCK TO SEVEN? SO IT'S WORTH THE 6,000.
BECAUSE REMEMBER, RETURN OF INVESTMENT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT FINANCIAL, IT'S ABSOLUTELY PEOPLE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE ONLY ARGUMENT I CAN GIVE TO THAT IS FINDING STAFF FOR THAT TIME IS THE MOST DIFFICULT.
SO LIKE RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN NON-PEAK SEASON, BUT WE ACTUALLY DON'T OPEN THE POOL IN THE MORNING ON FRIDAYS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF TO OPERATE THE POOL IN THE MORNING.
>> SO PEOPLE ARE USED TO COMING IN AND THE POOL NOT BEING OPENED, RIGHT?
>> UNFORTUNATELY. THE REALITY, YES.
>> SETTING A TIME IS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL, I DON'T THINK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE READY TO GO SWIMMING AND THEY CAN'T GO SWIMMING, WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY WILL FIND OUT WHY? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? HOW COME THE POOLS NOT OPEN?
>> SO THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO IT. ME PERSONALLY, FOR THE FINANCIAL PIECE OF IT, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT AND BRING SOMEBODY ELSE IN.
THAT PIECE DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
THE OTHER PART IS THE STAFFING SIDE.
IF WE COULD FIND DEDICATED LIFEGUARDS TO COME IN AND COMMIT TO THAT EARLY MORNING, PROBABLY WON'T EVEN HAVE HALF OF THIS DISCUSSION.
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BUT THE REQUEST FROM PREVIOUSLY WAS TO EVALUATE OPERATIONS AND WHERE THE IS BEING USED, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.> WHEN YOU REPLACE YOU'RE TAKING GUARDS OUT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN 15 MINUTES EARLY, SO YOU REALLY INSTEAD OF COMING IN A FIVE, THEY'D BE COMING IN AT 6:45 AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES, RIGHT?
>> BUT THEN YOU'RE ADDING A STAFF MEMBER TO COME IN AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK A STAFF MEMBER TO COME IN FROM 5:00 AM UNTIL 6:00 AM.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET NOBODY TO TAKE THAT SHIFT.
OR SEVEN, LIKE A TWO HOUR SHIFT.
[BACKGROUND] IT WOULD BE A YEAH.
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THAT AT THE FINANCIAL PIECE, YEAH.
I WOULD AGREE THE FINANCIAL PIECES.
>> SO DO WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM? STROMAN.
>> WELL, I THOUGHT WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON OCTOBER 1ST.
>> CALL HOURS DOWN ON OCTOBER 1ST.
>> BUT DO YOU REMEMBER, THOUGH, WE SAVE $6,000.
THAT'S WHAT WE SAVE. IS IT WORTH SAVING $6,000 FOR THE WHOLE.
>> UNLESS THE WHOLE PLACE DOESN'T OPEN UNTIL SEVEN.
>> OH, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO INCONVENIENCE TRAVELERS OUT.
>> I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING MONEY.
>> TWO OF THE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE.
>> THAT'D BE A GOOD WAY TO SAVE MONEY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE STAFF THERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE AIR CONDITIONER ON.
YOU'RE GOING TO GANG MONEY AFTER A WHILE, YOU'RE GOING TO START BUILDING UP MONEY.
HE CAN JUST GO TO WORK LATER. HE'S A LAWYER.
>> YOU ADJUST AT THAT, THAT WILL BE A MORE DRASTIC IMPACT.
THAT WOULD ALTER OPERATIONS, WOULD HAVE TO BE A FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO EXAMPLE I GIVE IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FULL TIMER, THAT THEIR JOB IS 4:30 TO 1:30.
IF WE ALTER THAT, WE'D WANT TO REALIGN OPERATIONS IN SOME CAPACITY.
>> WELL, DID YOU COME IN WITH THE SEVEN O'CLOCK TIME? WAS THAT FOR THE LIFEGUARDS OR MORE LIKELY TO COME IN AT THAT TIME?
>> THAT WAS TO GIVE TO TRAVIS' POINT OF THERE IS A SECTION OF THE POOL THAT CLOSES AT EIGHT O'CLOCK FOR WATER AEROBICS.
WE WANTED TO GIVE A TIME FOR THOSE WHO DO LAP SWIM AND USE IT FOR OTHER ACTIVITY TO COME IN PRIOR TO, TO STILL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MORE ALIGNS WITH WHEN WE SEE FOOT TRAFFIC START TO PICK UP MORE, STILL OFFER WATER AEROBICS AND GO THAT ROUTE.
SO BUT IT JUST COMES WITH A PIECE OF YOU ARE TAKING STAFF OUT OF THE BUILDING, LEAVING SOMEBODY BY THEMSELVES.
WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR LIABILITY.
YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY BACK IN.
>> DOCTOR JACKSON RAISES A GOOD POINT.
>> IT'S REALLY NOT SO MUCH AS A SUGGESTION TO DO IT TO SAVE THAT MUCH MONEY.
IT'S MORE REALLY FOR THE POOL.
NOT SO MUCH FOR THE RUNNING OF THE PLACE, JUST FOR THE POOL BECAUSE YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS.
WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE HIRING FREEZE, THE QUESTION GOT BROUGHT UP IS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN OVERALL ANALYSIS OF THE OPERATIONS FOR THE POOL WHO UTILIZES IT, AND HAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR STAFFING? WE WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
>> WHAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS DOING?
>> THE ALVIN'S HOURS ARE WEIRD.
I WILL TRY NOT TO COMPARE IT TO THAT ONE JUST FOR LIFEGUARDS BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTDOOR POOL.
THEY HAVE LIKE OPEN CLOSE, OPEN CLOSE.
LAKE JACKSON IS PRETTY MUCH OPEN, BUT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT POOL, AND IF I COULD HAVE TWO LIFEGUARDS ON AT THE POOL, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
BECAUSE YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS MUCH GREATER.
THE WAY OURS IS SET UP, IT THROWS A NUMBER.
>> YOU MAKE ANOTHER GOOD POINT, WHICH WOULD BE IF WE GET THIS NEW PLACE, WHAT DO WE CALL PLAY EQUIPMENT IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE IT REEVALUATED.
>> IT COULD REDUCE THE COST A LITTLE BIT THERE.
>> THAT WOULD REDUCE YOUR FOOTPRINT OF HOW MANY GUARDS YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE, WHICH MAY SOLVE ITSELF.
WE ARE SEEING MORE GUARDS COME IN FOR THE MORNING.
KNOCK ON WOOD. WE HAD TWO THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO START THIS WEEK.
SO WE'RE GETTING THERE AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST IT'S TAKING TIME FOR US TO FIND OUT.
>> IF WE TAKE AWAY THEIR HOURS, WILL THEY STILL SHOW UP?
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>> RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T OPERATE FRIDAYS, WE STILL HAVE A FULL DAY FOR FRIDAY TO ADD IN, SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET.
SO WE STILL HAVE RIGHT NOW A SIX HOUR SHIFT OR SEVEN HOUR SHIFT WE HAVEN'T EVEN ACCOUNTED FOR.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA BEING CLOSED ON FRIDAY BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE REALLY LIKE FRIDAY.
WHO WANTS TO WORK ALL THE TIME.
I'M RETIRED, SO I DON'T WORK EVER.
>> IN REALITY, THOUGH, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO WORK UP TO 20 HOURS A WEEK.
THEY'RE TYPICALLY ONLY GETTING 15 TO 18 HOURS JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS FOR TEAM RIDES.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE, IS IF SOMEBODY COULD WORK 30 HOURS A WEEK, IT'D PROBABLY BE AN EASIER SOLUTION, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT.
UNLESS WE START PAYING THEM BENEFITS, WHICH MEANS MORE MONEY.
>> IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE AGE OR ANYTHING.
IS JUST EACH PERSON CAN ONLY WORK 20 HOURS?
>> YES. BASED ON OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM, THEY HAVE A THRESHOLD OF A 999 RULE.
ANYBODY WHO WORKS OVER 1,000 HOURS IN A CALENDAR YEAR IS REQUIRED TO EARN RETIREMENT.
THEN THE NEXT THRESHOLD IS 30 HOURS, WHICH WOULD THEN BE.
>> THEY'RE NOT PART TIME ANYMORE.
>> YEAH. SO THAT'S THE CAVEAT THAT PUTS HOURS IN THAT WE HAVE TO STAY UNDER.
IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WATCH THEIR HOURS SO STRICTLY.
THAT SOMEBODY THAT COULD FILL INVESTING PLAN.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BUFFER.
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY MORE PEOPLE?
>> IT'S JUST LIKE ANYBODY ANY OTHER BUSINESS? ALL OF THEM AT THE, RIGHT?
>> SO IS SEVEN O'CLOCK OKAY? TRAVIS, IS THAT?
>> I DON'T THINK I COULD TAKE ACTION.
>> I DON'T KNOW. ALL I GOT TO GO BY IS YOU.
>> I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPERIMENTING.
I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT.
I THINK WE CAN RE-EVALUATE THIS ISSUE, HOPEFULLY, THE PLACE IS COMING IN THIS WINTER.
>> THEN WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN GET BY WITH A LESSER STAFF, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND SEE IF THAT WORKS, AND MAYBE WE RE-INTRODUCE IT COME SPRING.
>> SOME OF THE THROW. MAYBE CURVE BALL HERE FOR YOU.
>> WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH FRIDAY CLOSED.
>> JUST DON'T OPEN ON FRIDAY? PEOPLE ARE USED TO IT.
>> THAT'S A 6.5 SEVEN HOUR SHIFT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH FOR FOUR DAYS IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING OUT.
THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY IMPACTS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO ARE WE NOW RIGHT THAT? SO IN PEAK SEASON, WE'RE CLOSED ON FRIDAY MORNINGS?
>> NO. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NON-PEAK SEASON.
WE SWITCHED TO NON-PEAK SEASON.
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS? I'M SORRY.
>> WE SHOULD BE OPEN ON FRIDAYS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING TO STAFF FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
WE ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED ON FRIDAY MORNINGS.
>> PEOPLE HAVE ADJUSTED. I REMEMBER HEARING THAT.
LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE ADJUSTED.
SO I WOULD JUST GO THAT ROUTE.
>> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH YOUR SAME SAVINGS IS THAT WE COULD EXPLORE THAT AND MAYBE IT'S JUST.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING NON-PEAK SEASON JUST DON'T OPEN ON FRIDAY.
>> YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT ON THAT?
>> WHAT DOES THAT DO? THEN THAT WAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE EXTRA PERSON?
>> IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF STAFF BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE LAST DAY TO STAFF.
I WOULD ASSUME OUR MORNING GUARDS WOULD LIKE KNOWING THAT IF THEY WERE WORKING FOUR DAYS A WEEK, THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A FRIDAY?
>> YOU DON'T WANT ME GET UP FRIDAY MORNING?
>> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING. YOU'RE THE BEST BOSS TO EVER. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
>> WE CAN EXPLORE THAT AND SEE HOW THIS YEAR LOOKS AND SEE IF WE GET FEEDBACK AND HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION IF WE'RE IN A BETTER PLACE NEXT YEAR?
>> WELL, HOW ABOUT THIS? I'M GIVING YOU WAY TOO MUCH, I DON'T KNOW.
WHY DON'T WE JUST STICK WITH THAT UNTIL WE COME BACK AND PERHAPS LOOK AT EVALUATING ON THE CALENDAR YEAR JANUARY 1ST.
IT GIVES US THREE MONTHS TO GUESS OF JUST THE ROLL WITH THAT.
THE FIRST QUARTER, ESSENTIALLY THE YEAR.
THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION IF WE WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES OR FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
>> LAST YEAR, DURING NON-PEAK AT TIME, WERE YOU CLOSED ON FRIDAYS THEN, TOO? THAT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU'VE HAD TO DO AS? > WE WERE CLOSED ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY FOR MOST OF THE YEAR.
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SO WE WERE ACTUALLY CLOSED TWO OF THE FIVE DAYS.>> IN THE MORNING. YEAH. WE DID NOT HAVE TO.
WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT WE KNOW FRIDAY STARTS TO TAPER.
BECAUSE THAT NATURALLY HAPPENS AT THE REC CENTER, FRIDAY MADE THE MOST LOGICAL SENSE OF SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU FOUR DAYS, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU FIVE, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH FOUR.
>> WHY DON'T YOU JUST MAKE IT SEMI PERMANENT?
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS MENTIONED TO RE-EVALUATE IT COME.
>> WE HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY MEETING OR NEXT ONE.
>> SEE HOW MANY COMPLAINTS YOU GET OR ANYTHING, YOU SEE IF ANYBODY NOTICES.
>> THAT WAY, JOHNNY AND TRAVIS CAN GO THERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND COUNT THE PAGE.
>> WHEN YOU ALL SHOW UP, I'LL HAVE OUR MORNING STAFF, PASS IT OFF TO YOU.
>> THIS FRIDAY? I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> ALL I KNOW IS WHEN I SHOW UP, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY GO WHO'S THAT STALKER AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE OLD PONS THEY SWIM, COUNTING.
>> HE'S NOT SWIMMING. HE'S JUST LOOKING.
>> WHY IS HE OUT THERE WATCHING THE OLD PEOPLE SWIM.
>> THAT'S THE AUDITOR. ALL RIGHT. SO [OVERLAPPING]
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR?
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
>> YOU DIDN'T NEED US. YOU DIDN'T NEED US FOR THAT.
>> WAS THAT TO BRING IT TO YOU ALL TO PROVIDE INPUT TO YOU BACK.
>> IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE HOPING TO GET? JUST PUT THE WRONG WAYS? [LAUGHTER]
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE SAYING THAT AS THE WEEK GOES, LESS AND LESS IT GETS A LIBRARY.
>> EVERYBODY HAS THE BEST OF INTENTIONS ON MONDAY?
>> THEN FRIDAY, THEY SAY MY INTENTIONS ARE IT'S THE WEEKEND.
>> SEVEN DISCUSSION UPDATE ON THE 2024 ABLC BOND PROJECTS.
[7. Discussion and update on 2024 ABLC Bond projects.]
>> I'M HERE AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME ALL DAY. THANK YOU FOR THIS.
>> I'M GOING TO TRY TO RATTLE THROUGH THESE QUICKLY AS I CAN, FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM, BUT IT KIND OF PROVIDES THE UPDATE FOR YOU THERE.
I WILL SAY THERE'S ONE CAVE BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE ONE OF MY SAVINGS DIDN'T STAY.
BUT ABIGAIL AREA, AS WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE $2 MILLION SET ASIDE FROM THE BOND FOR THAT, AND THEN WE HAD $750,000 FROM THE GRANT.
WE DO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE AVAILABLE.
WE'VE SPENT ALMOST $80,000 OF THAT GOING THROUGH THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PIECE OF THAT.
WE JUST FINISHED UP DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE ROLLING INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
SHOULD BE GETTING AN UPDATED RENDERING HERE THIS WEEK AND I'LL FOR THAT ALONG TO THE BOARD SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE NEW REAL TIME IMAGES LOOK LIKE WITH THAT.
BUT THIS JUST GETS YOU IN A TIMELINE AS WE'VE BEEN PROGRESSING THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
MILESTONES THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED.
WE HAD TO DO A GEOTECH SERVICE FOR THEM TO EVALUATE THE SOIL TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE GO IN THERE AND PUT ANY HARD SCAPES IN THERE, WHAT IS THE IMPACT GOING TO BE? WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
WE'VE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH TO GET A FINAL MASTER PLAN THIS SPRING WITH FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL MOVED INTO OUR SUMMER TIME FRAME, WHERE WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND DONE OUR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE START TO GO INTO ACTUAL DESIGN OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE ONCE WE FINISHED OUR MASTER PLAN AND TAKING THOSE AND MAKING THOSE REALITY OF WHAT THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.
THEN WE PROGRESSED INTO JULY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FARTHER INTO THAT, STARTING TO FOCUS IN ON WHAT OUR PAVILION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE SPLASH PAD IS GOING TO ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.
WE'VE PROGRESSED PAST THOSE, AND WE'RE LOOKING GOOD THERE.
THEN WE ARE SLATED TO GET OUR 100% DOCUMENTS.
WE RECEIVED THOSE IN OUR REVIEW OF THOSE, AND THEN WAITING ON THE FINAL 3D RENDERINGS AS FAR AS THAT PROJECT GOES, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP.
THAT'S SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS AS WE ARE LOOKING AT DESIGN DEVELOPMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AS OUR NEXT PHASE TO WORK THROUGH FOR THIS FALL, TRYING TO WORK ON WAYS TO EXPEDITE THAT AND MAKE THAT A QUICKER PROCESS.
THEN WORKING THROUGH CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS, GETTING PACKAGES TOGETHER TO GO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE AS WELL.
THEN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND MEET THE TPW REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THINGS AND GIVE THEIR BLESSING ON THINGS AS WELL.
IT'S GOOD. QUESTIONS ON ABIGAIL.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK ONE QUESTION..
>> WHEN DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS?
>> HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO BUILD OUT?
>> THAT'S I WILL FIND OUT FOR YOU.
THAT'S THE 11 I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN UPDATE ON OF THEIR TIME FRAME.
>> MAY 27 BETTER BE DONE BEFORE MAY.
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>> NO. MAY 2027, I THINK I LOSE MY SEAT ON THIS COMMISSION.
>> I WILL FIND OUT WHAT THEY ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION ONCE THEY GET INTO CONSTRUCTION. I THINK IS WHAT THIS.
>> I KNOW WE'RE BEING SILLY, BUT I'M NOT.
I'M REALLY THINKING WE'VE GOT TO PUSH.
WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME PUSH FROM THEM, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT Y'ALL.
I KNOW BIRD'S PART OF IT, BUT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING.
>> THE BIGGEST HICCUP WE RAN INTO WAS LEGAL REVIEW OF THE AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN SPRING OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT DOCUMENT WAS NOT BROUGHT TO COUNCIL UNTIL NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
>> WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO KNOCK THINGS OUT AS QUICK AS WE CAN.
>> THERE YOU GO. I'LL LIKE THAT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S JUST A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN SITTING OUT THERE.
I THINK WE NAMED IT, LIKE, DON'T KNOW, THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
THAT'S HOW LONG THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN PENDING.
[OVERLAPPING] WE HAVEN'T MOVED A PLAN.
>> BUT NOW IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVING PRETTY GOOD.
AT LEAST YOU'RE GETTING [OVERLAPPING] IT'S MOVING ALONG.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO POINT FINGERS AT YOU.
>> NOBODY THINKS THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE START WHISPERING. IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING? IT'S JUST I'M NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE.
I JUST HAVE PEOPLE LIKE, IS THAT STILL GOING ON? [OVERLAPPING] YES, IT IS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
>> WHEN WE DO THE SPONSORSHIP STUFF, THAT'S HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE THE KICK OFF OF, GAINING THAT EXCITEMENT BACK OF BECOMING A REALITY.
>> SOMETHING'S GOING TO START HAPPENING. THAT'S GOOD.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? FRIEDAN PARKER IS THE ONE THIS SECTION FOR I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS ONE DIDN'T GET UPDATED.
WE'RE FARTHER ALONG THAN WE ARE ON THAT.
THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
WE ARE WRAPPING UP CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
WE JUST THIS MORNING RECEIVED THE ELECTRICAL PLANS.
STAFF ARE REVIEWING THOSE, SO WE ARE MUCH FARTHER ALONG IN THIS PROCESS.
WE'RE HOPEFUL TO HAVE A BETTER UPDATE AT OCTOBER OF WHAT THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE.
I WILL SAY CURRENT NUMBERS AREN'T THE GREATEST.
WHERE IT'S FORECASTING AS FAR AS EXPENSES GO IS CURRENTLY OVER BUDGETS, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO NAVIGATE THAT.
I WILL ACTUALLY SAY THAT FOR ABIGAIL AS WELL, WE GOT UPDATED NUMBERS, THOSE WERE MORE IN LINE.
THEY WERE PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME OVER, IF YOU WILL, BUT ABIGAIL IS A MUCH HIGHER COST PROJECT.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT FOR ABIGAIL OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN HOUSE.
ONE OF THEM IS REMOVAL OF TREES.
WE CAN KNOCK THAT OUT. THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO TAKE OFF SOME OF THE EXTRA COSTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED.
FREEDOM IS ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY DIVE INTO BECAUSE THAT PROJECT, WE HAD 900 RESERVE FOR.
WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHICH TOOK OUT A GOOD CHUNK, AND CURRENTLY IT'S ABOUT 1.1.
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SEE IF WE CAN GAIN SOME PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS TO HAVE AN INTERCAL AGREEMENT WHERE THEY COULD USE THE FIELD TOO.
WE ARE EXPLORING THAT AS A COMPONENT TO IT.
BG PARK LIGHTING. AS WE MENTIONED, THAT ONE IS COMPLETE.
THAT FUNDS WAS WHAT WE USED FOR THE SOCCER COMPLEX TO BE ABLE TO DO THE CONTRACT TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE GRADING.
AS YOU KNOW, AS WE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN THE MEETING TODAY, THERE WAS LIMITED FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THAT, SO THAT COST WAS ABOUT A $60,000 CONTRACT.
RESERVES ONLY ABOUT $14,000 FROM THAT PROJECT LEFT.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO MOVE AROUND WITH THOSE.
BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND IT'S NOT THAT MUCH, BUT THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG.
I'M GOING TO GET WITH HDR TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE BIDDING PROCESS GOES BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT.
IF WE DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT THIS TIME, DOES THAT CHANGE THE CONTRACT? WILL WE HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT? I'LL NAVIGATE THOSE AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THOSE IN THE NEXT QUARTER.
QUESTIONS WITH ANY OF THOSE ONES.
THIS ONE, SIMILAR TO THE ABIGAIL ONE, RECEIVED A GRANT MATCH.
$500,000 WAS DEDICATED FOR THIS PROJECT.
[02:35:02]
WE CONTRIBUTED 274,000 FROM ANGLETON REC CENTER FUND BALANCE, $150,000 FROM THE ABLC FUND BALANCE.IN TOTAL 881,000 IS CONTRIBUTED ON EITHER SIDE INTO THIS POT.
HAKUP ON THIS ONE IS WE COULD NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL THAT GRANT AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED.
THE UNFORTUNATE NEWS FOR US IS THAT A GRANT AGREEMENT GOT SIGNED WHEN PEAK SEASON STARTED AND CLOSING OUR FACILITY DURING PEAK SEASON.
SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE STARTING TO WORK ON.
WE HAVE TALKED TO OUR INSTALLER FOR THE PLAY FEATURE IN THE AUDITORIUM, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL TO GET THAT IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
WE'RE TRYING TO LINE THIS UP WITH OUR LEAST UTILIZED TIME AND MAXIMIZE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THAT.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR CURRENT POOL COMPANIES TO LOOK AT THE DECKING, THE TILE, POOL PLASTER, AND THEN POTENTIALLY TWO OTHER PROJECTS WITH THE GARAGE DOORS AND THE EVACUATION FANS TO ALIGN THOSE UP AS WELL.
THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE PAINTING IN THE FACILITY.
THAT'LL BE SOME OF THE BIGGEST RENOVATIONS THAT WE'LL DO IS DEDICATED IN THE NOTORIUM.
HOPEFULLY TO ALIGN AT THAT SAME TIME BECAUSE DECEMBER THROUGH REALLY JANUARY, FEBRUARY IS PRETTY SLOW FOR THE POOL BECAUSE IT'S COLD.
WE DON'T SEE AS MUCH USAGE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO KNOWING THAT THAT COULD IMPACT PEOPLE AND THE POOL IS GOING TO BE CLOSED.
BUT WE'RE MOVING ALONG ON THOSE ONES.
THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING A THIRD PARTY TO COME IN TO PROVIDE SOME ASSESSMENTS FOR US TO EVALUATE SOME OF THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE FACILITY TO DECIDE WHERE OUR FUNDING GOES NEXT, WHETHER IT BE ADDRESSING THE MORPUS ROOM, THE GYM, THE WEIGHT ROOM, THE LOCKER ROOMS, AND SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE GOING.
THIS ONE WILL PROBABLY BE A PROJECT THAT SPANS MORE OVER TWO YEARS FOR FULL FACILITY, JUST TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND OF HOW WE STAGGER SOME OF THAT AND THE IMPACT TO KEEP REVENUES UP AND NOT DO A FULL CLOSURE.
BUT THE POOL IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY TO KNOCK THAT ONE OUT AND GET THIS ONE DONE HOPEFULLY IN THE FALL THIS YEAR.
SOUNDS GOOD. QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NO. GREAT. THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE TEXAN TRAIL DRAINAGE PROJECT.
WE RESERVE FUNDING FOR 350 FOR THAT ONE.
THEY'VE CURRENTLY SPENT ABOUT 126.
I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD HAVE A GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY COMING BACK OR SAVINGS ON THAT ONE.
I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT WAS JUST UNDER $200,000, BUT THE DESIGN WAS ANOTHER COMPONENT TO IT.
THEY MIGHT HAVE AROUND 100,000 NOT CONFIRMED ON THAT ONE.
WE'LL KNOW MORE ONCE THIS PROJECT CLOSES IN SEPTEMBER OF WHAT THEIR FULL PIECE IS LEFT, SO WE CAN DECIDE WHERE THAT FUNDING GOES, WHETHER IT GOES TO ANOTHER DRAINAGE PROJECT TO SUPPORTS OR TO ONE OF THE OTHER BOND PROJECTS.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS ONE.
THIS PROJECT DID HAVE SOME HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY.
THEY HAD TO DO SOME CHANGE ORDERS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, WHICH WERE NOT IN THE PLACES THEY EXPECTED THEM TO BE.
THEY TOOK CARE OF THOSE, AND THE HOPE IS THAT THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED MID SEPTEMBER.
I WILL SAY IF THE CONTRACTOR IS NOT, THE CITY HAS ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GOING FOR DAMAGES, THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD START TO HAVE TO PAY BACK IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THEIR SCHEDULE.
[OVERLAPPING] QUESTIONS, COUNTIES CONCERNS.
>> THEY'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THAT, RIGHT?
>> THEY'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THAT ONE. YES.
>> WHAT ARE THEY REALLY THINKING THE END DATE IS?
>> WHAT ARE WE THINKING THE END DATE ON THAT IS?
>> I BELIEVE THEY SAID SEPTEMBER 13. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IS WHAT I SAY MID SEPTEMBER, BUT SO IT'S HERE.
>> I THINK THE 13TH WAS THAT DATE, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THEY HAVE RAIN DATES IN THERE.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THROW IT OFF, BUT MID SEPTEMBER IS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
>> TELL I HAD A BUNCH OF KEPT FINDING STUFF.
THINGS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M GOING TO GO WAY BACK.
I WAS JUST LOOKING LIKE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING, WE HAD BACK IN JUNE 16.
WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBER LISTED, AND HE WAS HERE ON THE JUNE 16 MEETING.
I SAW BLAINE, BUT NOT OUR NEW COUNSEL.
>> NO, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
>> THAT MEANS THAT OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT INTRODUCING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO STEER THE THUNDER WAY, LOUIS LAIHA?
>> I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO MESS IT UP.
HE TOOK ON THE POSITION BECAUSE OF BLAINE MOVING OVER TO COUNSEL, SO HE COULDN'T SERVE ON.
[02:40:05]
>> ON THE PRESENT FROM JUNE 16, IT SAYS, BLAINE, IT SHOULD SAY LOUIS.
BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE MINUTES HERE. I JUST KNOW HE'S THERE.
>> WANT TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT TO OUR APPROVAL OF THE HOURS OR THE MINUTES.
>> YES. I THOUGHT YOU GUY JUST LEFT ME OFF BECAUSE Y'ALL DIDN'T LIKE ME.
>> NO. WE WANT YOU TO WAIT AS [OVERLAPPING]
WE WANT EVERYBODY KNOW WHO MADE IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
>> SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
>> THAT WAY. WHEN SOMEBODY LOOKS BACK ON THE RECORD, AND LIKE, WHY DID THEY DO THAT? [OVERLAPPING] IT WAS LEASE.
>> [OVERLAPPING]YOU CAN BLAME BLAINE. HE WASN'T THERE.
>> IF YOU HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE, THE LAST PORTION IS COUNSEL OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO BRING UP THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT, THINGS YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE.
>> MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE CIPS.
>> WE DON'T HAVE TO MAYBE HAVE IT IN OCTOBER, BUT DEFINITELY DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO GET ONE MORE BEFORE THE END OF YEAR.
BASICALLY QUARTERLY. [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT'S RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S RIGHT TRAVIS MADE THE MOTION.
YOU MADE YOU MODIFIED IT SO IT STILL STANDS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHOEVER MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION SECOND.
HAVE HIS BE AMENDED SECOND, PLEASE.
THAT WOULD GET OTHERWISE TOO CONFUSING.
>> I SUGGESTED THAT YOU THROW THIS PART IN ABOUT GENERAL COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, NOT AT THE END, BECAUSE IT'S AFTER EIGHT NOW.
NOBODY WON'T SAY ANYTHING NOW.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> COUNCIL MEETINGS LAST 12, 13 HOURS SO LISTEN.
>> WE DID A FANTASTIC JOB. THANK YOU.
>> YEP. WE DID IT GOOD. STAYED ON OUR FEET FOR 3 HOURS.
>> GOT A LOT OF STUFF TO KEEP UP WITH.
>> HE HAS NOT HIT. NO OTHER COMMENTS.
>> I'VE TEXTING HERE FROM MAYOR JOHN WRIGHT, AND HE SAYS IT'S OKAY TO ADJOURN, SO WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.