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>> CALL TO ORDER FOR THE MEETING FOR,

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 23, 2025, SIX O'CLOCK FOR CITY COUNCIL.

I HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE WILL BEGIN BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

STAND BY.

>>

>> THANK YOU. TONIGHT, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE WITH US, PASTOR RYAN OLIVIER FROM HEART CITY CHURCH.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.

>> FATHER, I JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING IN OUR CITY.

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THIS CITY, DO IT IN THIS GREAT CITY OF ANGLETON.

WE THANK YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE THANK YOU FATHER FOR OUR CHIEF OF POLICE.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL OUR OFFICERS, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE JUST THANK YOU THAT YOU WOULD KEEP THEM SAFE AS THEY SERVE OUR CITY.

WE JUST THANK YOU THAT YOU GIVE ALL OUR COUNCILMEN THE KNOWLEDGE TO MOVE OUR CITY IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT IT TO GO AND TO HELP IT FINANCIALLY, FATHER.

WE JUST THANK YOU FATHER FOR JUST MOVING IN OUR HEARTS AND IN THE HEARTS OF AMERICA IN THE WEEKS OF THE PAST TRAGEDY, FATHER.

WE JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO IN OUR NATION.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> AMEN. WE WANT TO THANK PASTOR OLIVIER FOR JOINING.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL HOPEFULLY BECOME A TRADITION OF HAVING PASTORS FROM AROUND THE CITY LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION, SO THANK YOU.

WE HAVE CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? NOW EVERYBODY RUSH UP AT ONE TIME? [LAUGHTER] DOESN'T APPEAR WE HAVE ANYBODY.

MOVING ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

[1. Presentation of the National Night Out proclamation]

FIRST IS THE PRESENTATION ON THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROCLAMATION.

IF WE'LL JOIN UP FRONT HERE.

WE HAVE CHIEF JOSTRUM WITH US TONIGHT.

LET ME HAND THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU.

OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TOWN WATCH IS SPONSORING AN ANNUAL COMMUNITY BUILDING CAMPAIGN TITLED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON OCTOBER 7, 2025 THAT PROMOTES POLICE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND [INAUDIBLE], AWARENESS AND COOPERATION.

WHEREAS THE 42ND ANNUAL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR AIMS TO JOIN FORCES WITH THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION AND STATE PROMOTING COOPERATIVE POLICE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS.

WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL CITIZENS OF ANGLETON WILL BE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND THE IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME, DRUGS, [NOISE] ANGLETON.

WHEREAS CITY OF ANGLETON ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO COME TOGETHER TO MEET AND GREET LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AT BLOCK PATTERNS ACROSS ANGLETON AND TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, TRAVIS TOWNSEND, MAYOR PRO TEM, THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 7, 2025 AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROCLAIMED THIS 23RD DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2025, AS SIGNED BY [INAUDIBLE] [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> I SURE HOPE EVERYBODY DOES GET OUT AND ENJOY THE FESTIVITIES.

ITEM NUMBER 2,

[2. Ceremonial Presentation of September 2025 Keep Angleton Beautiful Yard of the Month and Business of the Month.]

WE WILL HAVE THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION OF SEPTEMBER 2025, KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL YARD OF THE MONTH AND PRESCENCE OF THE MONTH. [INAUDIBLE]

>> WE'RE GOOD.

>> CAN I HAVE YOU JOIN US?

>> SURVIVING. [BACKGROUND] SORRY, I BRING MY HAIR [INAUDIBLE] [FOREIGN] PLEASE I'M TRACY, THIS IS PATTY.

WE'RE REPRESENTATIVE OF KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.

REALLY, NO INTRODUCTION HERE.

MIKE SELVAN, WHO USED TO BE A CITY COUNCILMAN, AND MARK WHO OWNS GULF COAST FORD.

MARK, AS A CITIZEN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS.

BORN AND RAISED HERE AND MOVED BACK ABOUT 16 YEARS AGO, I'VE SEEN SO MANY COMPANIES THAT GIVE BACK, THAT DON'T GIVE BACK, YOURS DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.

I AS A CITIZEN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

MY MOTHER SAYS, TELL MARK THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] TO THIS ALONE. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANKS FOR LUNCH. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT.

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[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT HARDER. [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND]

>> ANTHIA AND ERLENE FRAZER, PLEASE. COME UP HERE.

>> THIS IS ANTHIA AND ERLENE FRAZER.

THEY WERE NOMINATED FOR YARD OF THE MONTH.

IT'S MAGNOLIO?

>> MYRTLES.

>> MYRTLES. I JUST WENT BLANK. IT'S ON MYRTLE STREET.

TELL US AGAIN, WHEN WAS THE HOUSE BUILT?

>> 1936

>> THEY'VE REDONE IT, IT'S GREAT.

WHEN YOU GO BY IT, YOU CAN'T.

A FUNNY STORY IS, THESE CAMERA BELLS ARE RING DOOR BELLS.

WE'RE RINGING IT. WE'RE LIKE THIS AND, HELLO.

THEY'LL BE, YOU WERE COMING HOME FROM CORPUS, WEREN'T YOU? THE YARD WASN'T HIGH, BUT I TOLD PATTY, I SAID, WHEN WE GO BACK THERE, I BET HE'S MOWING, AND HE WAS.

[LAUGHTER] HEY, WE APPRECIATE IT FROM KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.

COUNCIL, APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING TIME ON YOUR DAY.

[APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AMEN.

>> I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL YARD OF THE MONTH AND PRESCENCE OF THE MONTH BECAUSE THEY ADD A LOT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE TAKE PRIDE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY LNEB ON BEHALF OF PEACH STREET FARMERS MARKET TO OBTAIN STREET CLOSURE PERMISSION ON OCTOBER 25, 2025 FROM 9:00 A.M. UNTIL 1:00 P.M. FOR THE FIFTH ANNUAL PUMPKIN SPICE MARKET.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALLING FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSITION, SAME SIGN.

THE ITEM CARRIES. REGULAR AGENDA.

[4. Discussion and input regarding a proposed annexation submitted by Bhavin Divecha on behalf of Angleton RV Park, located at 799 County Road 44, requesting the City of Angleton’s sewer services.]

DISCUSSION AND INPUT REGARDING A PROPOSED ANNEXATION SUBMITTED BY BAJAVIAN DEVICI.

I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.

ON BEHALF OF ANGLETON RV PARK, LOCATED AT 799 COUNTY ROAD 44, REQUESTING THE CITY OF ANGLETON'S SEWER SERVICES.

I SEE OTIS. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM IS JUST FOR COMMUNICATION AND CONCEPT REVIEW.

THIS IS THE ANGLETON RV PARK, WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE IN OUR ETJ, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON A TRACK THAT'S IN THE CITY.

THEN A PORTION IS ZONED COMMERCIAL RIGHT ALONG THE RAMP OF COUNTY ROAD 44.

IF IT MOVED TO MAYBE EXHIBITS ON PAGE 40 AND 41, WE CAN ORIENT OURSELVES.

THIS HAS BEEN AN ANNEXATION IN WHICH WE RECEIVED, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN ENTERTAINED FOR ANNEXATION SINCE 2019.

THEY'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS AS WELL AS STAFF AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

IN TERMS OF COMING UP WITH A WAY TO DEAL WITH THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, WHICH IS ALONG THAT AREA OF WHERE 288 IS WHERE YOU SEE THEIR SIGN TYPICALLY HAS BEEN BLOWN DOWN BY PREVIOUS STORMS. THAT AREA WOULD BE THE SEPTIC AREA IN WHICH THEY'RE HOPING TO TIE TO THE CITY SERVICES IN TERMS OF SEWER.

WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL BECAUSE THE MATTER NEVER CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL JUST TO SEE IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY GIVE STAFF DIRECTION.

WHEN WE ENTERTAIN ANNEXATIONS, TYPICALLY, THERE IS A SERVICE PLAN THAT WOULD DEAL WITH ANY TYPE OF SERVICES THAT WOULD BE PROMISED OR COMMITTED TO BY THE CITY ONCE THE PROPERTY IS ANNEXED.

PREVIOUS DISCUSSION SINCE 2019 WENT BACK AND FORTH.

THERE WAS NO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR SERVICE PLAN THAT CAME BEFORE YOU.

TONIGHT, MR. BAJAVIAN IS ON THE AUDIO.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE HAD AN EMERGENCY WITH A PARENT THAT HE HAD TO DEAL WITH TODAY.

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BUT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THIS INITIAL DISCUSSION AND THEN MAYBE NEXT MONTH BRING THE ACTUAL ANNEXATION TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION WITH THE SERVICE PLAN THAT IF WE GET FEEDBACK TONIGHT, THAT WOULD HELP LEGAL AND STAFF CRAFT THAT IN SUCH A WAY TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE.

HE WILL GET INTO THE HOPES THAT EVENTUALLY THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT TO THE WATER.

BUT I THINK THE SEWER IS THE MAJOR PRIORITY.

IT'S UNDER REVIEW BY CITY ENGINEER AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY'RE HOPING TO CONSTRUCT THE LIFT STATION ON THEIR SITE TO TIE TO OUR LIFT STATION, WHICH IS VERY NEAR ON THE PROPERTY, AND IT'S SHOWN ON THAT GRAPHIC ON YOUR EXHIBIT THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT BEFORE YOU JUST TO ORIENT YOU.

THEY HAVE PLATTED THE PROPERTY RECENTLY AND HAVE DEDICATED PROPER RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE EASEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR OUR FUTURE UTILITIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING NOW AND LET MR. BAJAVIAN ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT HE'S PROPOSING.

THEN FROM THERE, MAYBE WE CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU OTIS. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> GREAT. I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND CONSIDERATION HERE, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, OTIS, FOR SUMMARIZING OUR DISCUSSIONS AND THE DRIVE FOR THE ANNEXATION.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ANGLETON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR OVER A YEAR.

I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY BUYERS ON BOTH SIDES OF MY PROPERTY ALL CLAIMING PERHAPS THEY'RE HAVING A TOUGH TIME TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE SEPTIC FREIGHTERS THAT'S SITTING ON THE FOUR ACRES ON 288 FRONTAGE.

THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT'S HINDERING THE DEVELOPMENT OF FURTHER TAX DOLLARS FOR CITY OF ANGLETON.

ADDITIONALLY, I MIGHT DOWN THE LINE CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT MYSELF WITH FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT ANGLETON COMMUNITY NEED AND WHAT HELP I CAN GIVE IN DEVELOPING AND DRIVING THAT TYPE OF FINANCIAL SERVICE.

I COMPLIED WITH PROVIDING EASEMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF MY PROPERTY ON COUNTY ROAD 44, AND FRONTAGE 288.

CITY OF ANGLETON DOES ALLOW A [INAUDIBLE] NOT ONLY FOR MY PROPERTY, BUT FUTURE UTILITY CONNECTION FOR THAT SURROUNDING ACREAGE OWNED BY OTHER DEVELOPERS.

I'VE ALSO AGREED TO TAKE ON THE PANNING STATION OF ANGLETON RV PARK, DRIVING FURTHER TAX REVENUE HERE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

I'M HOPING THAT THIS IS ALIGNMENT WITH ENSURING THAT THAT AREA WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, DURABLE AND OF GENERATE INCOME FOR CITY OF ANGLETON IN THE FUTURE FOR FUTURE INVOLVEMENT.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHERE ON THE MAP IS THE SEWER , AND HOW MANY ACRES?

>> IT'S 10.6 ACRES SUBJECT TO THE ANNEXATION.

>> JUST FOR THE SEWER FIELD.

>> THE SEWER FIELD IS FOUR ACRES.

>> WHERE IS IT?

>> WHERE THE HAND IS RIGHT NOW IS WHERE THE LIST STATION IS THAT WE PUT IN ON THE EAST SIDE IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S PART OF THE IMPACT REZONE THAT WE HAVE PUT IN THERE THAT'S JUST ADJACENT TO HIS PROPERTY.

IT'S JUST A QUICK CONNECTION, IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

THAT AREA WAS INCLUDED IN THE IMPACT FEED ZONE SO IT WAS SET UP TO HANDLE FLOWS COMING FROM IT.

YOU CAN SEE THE DIRT RUN WHERE THE SPRINKLERS HAVE BEEN PUT IN RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE FOUR ACRES THAT HE HAS.

IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THAT AREA.

>> HE HAS PROVIDED, LIKE HE SAID,

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EASEMENTS TO ALLOW THE FURTHER EXPANSION OF THE WATER LINES ON BOTH SIDES OF HIS PROPERTY AND SEWER LINES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THE DEVELOPERS AS THEY COME ON, THEY ARE RUNNING THAT WATER LINE, THE BACKBONE OF THE SYSTEM FOR THE CITY IN THAT AREA.

THE CITY'S ONLY PUT IN JUST THE CROSSING, BUT ESSENTIALLY ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA, ALL THE WAY TO THE TXDOT HAS BEEN PUT IN BY DEVELOPERS.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING PARTNERS AND HE'S GAVE US AN EASEMENT TO CONTINUE ON SOUTH WITH THE WATER LINE AND THE SEWER LINE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL AND ALSO THE SAME THING ALONG THE FEEDER ROAD.

>> I'M GUESSING THE DRIVER ON THIS IS TO PULL THE ANAEROBIC SPRAY FIELD TO FREE UP THAT PROPERTY AND TAKE THE SEWER, BUT NOT TAKE THE WATER BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY OPERATING AWFUL WELL.

>> CORRECT.

>> CURRENTLY THERE ARE 105 RV SPOTS THAT'S A PART OF IT.

THE DISCUSSIONS PROBABLY WERE TO MAINTAIN THAT PART AS GRANDFATHERED IN UNDER THE COUNTY CONTROL RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS.

HE CAN BASICALLY, EXPLAIN ANY OTHER AMENITIES.

I THINK THERE IS A STRUCTURE IN WHICH THEY UTILIZE FOR MANAGEMENT IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS, BUT HE CAN EXPLAIN ANY OTHER AMENITIES THAT THE PARK WOULD HAVE OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF THE USE.

THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.

>> WELL, I WOULD BE OVERJOYED IF HE WAS TAPPING THE WATER IN ALONG WITH THE SEWER.

>> USUALLY WHEN PROPERTY IS OUT IN THE COUNTY AND THEY WOULD LIKE CITY SERVICES, WE USUALLY SUGGEST ANNEXATION.

I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT'S CARRIED ON WITH THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL SINCE THEY'RE REQUESTING CITY SERVICE.

>> WELL, MY SITUATION, IF I HAD A WILL, I WAS OPERATING AND I WANTED TO GET RID OF MY GRAY AND BLACK WATER, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D EVER TIE THE CITY WATER IN.

SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, TO BE SOMETIME NEVER.

>> IF YOUR REAL THOUGHT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS TO INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, THEN WE WOULD WANT THEM TO GO ALL THE WAY, I WOULD THINK.

>> I'M IN AN IN THE END ZONE TYPE OF PERSON MYSELF.

>> IS HE STILL ON CALL?

>> HE'S STILL ON CALL, YES.

>> [INAUDIBLE] BEHAVING, DID YOU HEAR THOSE COMMENTS?

>> APOLOGY CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT THE QUESTION WAS?

>> LOOKING AT THIS OUT OF THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS BEST I CAN.

I CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO GET RID OF YOUR SPRAY FIELD TO FREE UP THAT PROPERTY, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS BY TYING INTO OUR LIFT STATION, BUT YET YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUR WATER BECAUSE YOU'RE OPERATING OFF OF WELL.

WITH THAT SAID, IF I WAS OPERATING OFF OF A WELL AND THE CITY WOULD ANNEX ME AND ALLOW ME TO TIE INTO THEIR SEWER, AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT, I WOULD SAY THAT THE TIME THAT I'D BE WILLING TO TIE INTO THEIR WATER WOULD BE NEVER.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD DO.

>> I WOULDN'T MIND CONSIDERING THE WATER AS WELL, CERTAINLY WITH MY REPS TO IT.

BUT I'M MORE OVERARCHING ON THE LONGER TERM PLAN FOR THAT AREA.

I THINK ANY PART, CITY OF ANGLETON BE IF WE COME TO GREEN, IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH OFFERS ACCESS TO MY LAND FOR UTILITY INSTALLATION FOR THAT WHOLE AREA.

I THINK IT'S JUST A WIN-WIN FOR CITY OF ANGLETON AND FOR B AS WELL,

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AS WELL AS POTENTIAL TAX DOLLARS AS LAND CAN LOOK MORE BEAUTIFUL AND NOT AGREE WITH ABILITY.

>> WELL, I NOT COMPLETELY IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOU ON THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUTLETS FOR THE WATER THAT WE HAVE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT AND I SEE IT AS NOT NECESSARILY EXACTLY A WIN WIN.

I MEAN WE WOULD PICK UP THE PETITION POTENTIALLY THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE, MAYBE THE WATER THAT GOES TO THAT, SEEING AS THERE'S NOT A WELL THERE.

>> I WAS REFERRING TO THE [INAUDIBLE].

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S YOUR ANGLE. MY ANGLE IS THE CITY UTILITIES.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AND NOT THE TAX REVENUE THAT THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S ON ALL OF OUR MINDS.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THINKING AS PEOPLE AROUND ME THINK, IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES, MY RESPONSE WILL BE, I THINK I'M GOING TO LOOK AT GETTING, TAKING THE CITY'S WATER AT SOME POINT.

BUT I'M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS ON YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING, I PROBABLY IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN MY PLANS TO DO THAT EVER IF I HAD A WELL.

>> MAYOR.

>> I KNOW I WAS SUGGESTING THE WATER CONNECTION OTHERS IN THE AREA COULD HAVE IT SO THAT [INAUDIBLE] TO GO IN AND CONNECT THE WATER AGAIN FOR ANOTHER [INAUDIBLE].

>> WELL, IN THAT CASE, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO EXTEND THE WATER LINE TO THAT POINT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] TO SPEAK. THIS IS A VOLUNTARY ANNEX HE'S ASKING FOR THE CITY TO ANNEX.

YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER CONDITION.

>> NO, I SNIFF THAT OUT.

>> IF YOU WANT TO SAY SEWER AND WATER IN FIVE YEARS, THAT'S THE CONDITION FOR HIM TO FILE A PETITION?

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> WE COULD PUT ANY CONDITION?

>> CORRECT.

>> I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE HAVING A PACKAGE DEAL.

THAT WAY, 15 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, FUTURE COUNSEL ISN'T SEEING THIS POCKET THAT ONLY IS USING SEWER AND ISN'T USING WATER AND WONDERING, WHAT WERE WE THINKING?

>> MY FIRST ASK WOULD BE THAT MAN IS EXTENDED TO THE PROPERTY AT A MINIMUM.

>> JOHN SHAKING HIS HEAD, NO ISSUES THAT YOU PROCEED?

>> WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THIS?

>> YES. WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WIN WIN IS GET THE WATER LINE EXTENDED DOWN TO THE END OF HIS PROPERTY IF HE AGREES TO TAKE THE WATER.

ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD HELP HIM OUT BECAUSE IT GIVES HIM FOUR ACRES TO DEVELOP RIGHT THERE ON THE SIDE OF 288 SO THERE'S A IT'S A MAJOR WIN FOR HIM AS WELL.

>> WELL, THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND THERE'S A PROPOSED ANNEX SUBMITTED AS MR. RYOLDS ALREADY EXPRESSED, WE CAN SET FORTH ANY CONDITIONS WE WISH IF ALL WISH TO DO SO TONIGHT.

IS THERE ANYTHING JOHN THAT YOU THINK?

>> YES, SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

TYPICALLY, THE SERVICE PLAN COMES FROM THE CITY MANAGER AFTER IT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH TO LEGAL, THEN ENGINEERING MISS WELLS STAFF.

WE'LL BRING THAT BACK WITH THE ANNEXATION.

YOU'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON NATURAL SERVICE PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE ALL THE DETAIL AS TO WHO PAYS FOR WHAT, AND THEN THE EXTENT OF THE CITY SERVICES.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. COULD YOU HELP ME WITH SOME LITTLE BIT? DO WE HAVE, I'M SURE WE DO.

WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS,

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DO WE HAVE OTHER CUSTOMERS THAT ARE DUMPING SEWER AND NOT TAKING WATER? WHAT DOES THEIR SERVICE PLAN LOOK LIKE? I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH I'M SURE THERE IS.

>> WE MIGHT HAVE I THINK YOU HAVE IN THE [INAUDIBLE] BEND AREA.

I THINK THAT ONE, BUT I THINK THEY USE IT FOR IRRIGATION.

I DON'T THINK THEY USE IT.

BUT WE CAN FORWARD THAT TO YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT SURFACE AND PLAN [NOISE] DOWN SOUTH IS THE ONLY ONE I KNOW THAT USES BECAUSE THEY SUBMIT THEIR WATER RESULTS AND EVERYTHING.

>> BEFORE WE MOVE TOO FAR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING YOU CLEAR GUIDANCE?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH WITH LEGAL.

THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT IN MOTION IS ATTACHED TO YOUR INFORMATION AND WE WILL REFINE THAT BASED ON TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, WORK WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO MAKE SURE WE'VE COVERED ANYTHING THAT'S CONNECTED THROUGH THOSE EASEMENTS AND THEN THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE SERVICE PLAN.

>> JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR AND CLEAR FOR MYSELF.

I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN AID OUT PRETTY CLEAR.

SEEMS LIKE OTHER MEMBERS SEEM TO BE IN AGREEMENT.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD?

>> WELL, IN PUTTING MYSELF IN THE PROPERTY OWNER'S POSITION, IF I HAD MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN A WELL, I WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY SHOVING THE WATER DOWN MY THROAT EITHER.

THAT SEEMS ARBITRARY. I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST NOT REALLY BUT ULTIMATELY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TAKE OUR WATER AT SOME POINT, AND I JUST I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD PUT A TIME FRAME ON BECAUSE WELLS ARE EXPENSIVE.

>> I WOULD PREFER THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE CONNECTION TO THE WATER, BUT NOT CONNECT RIGHT NOW.

I EXIT INVESTMENT LABS HERE ON UPGRADING OUR WATER WELL AND PUTTING AROUND IT AND WORKS EFFICIENTLY AND GREAT FOR ME.

I WOULD LOVE THE TIME THE WATER.

BUT A POSSIBILITY OF FIGHTING IN AND USING THE WATER SURFACE AT A LATER TIME.

>> I THINK THERE SHOULD BE GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL OF A DATE, CERTAIN.

>> JOHN HAS INPUT. JOHN, YOU HAVE INPUT ON THAT?

>> THE CITY'S LEVERAGE RIGHT IS RIGHT NOW TO GET HIM TO TIE INTO THE WATER OR TO SET A DATE BEFORE HE TIES IN THE WATER BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME YOU MAKE THAT NEGOTIATION.

I THINK IF WE LEAVE IT OPEN, HE CAN DO A LOT OF REPAIRS ON THE WATER WELL FOR THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SUSIE IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUILD A SEWER.

I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO TO CALCULATE.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY GUIDANCE ON WHAT A TIME FRAME LIKE THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE?

>> TO ME, PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT HE COULD USE HIS WATER WELL FOR IRRIGATION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? IF HE WANTS TO USE IT FOR THAT, BUT THE POTABLE WATER OF THE WATER THAT HE HAS FOR HIS CUSTOMERS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO LET HIS CUSTOMERS DUMP SEWER INTO YOUR LEST STATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW.

>> BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I MEAN, I GUESS WE TAKE IT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY REPORT TO US HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE USING BASED ON A METER AND THEN WE JUST BILL THEM ACCORDINGLY.

>. MASTER METERS.

>> YES. WE INSTALL A MASTER METER AND THEY CALL IT IN EVERY AND WE DO EVER ABOUT EVERY TWO MONTHS, GO AHEAD AND VERIFY THAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.

BUT IT'S HARD FOR THE CITY TO GO AND LOCK IT WHEN THEY DON'T PAY BECAUSE YOU'RE STOPPING THE FULL WATER TO AND THAT'S NOT OUR WATER.

>> I MEAN [OVERLAPPING].

>> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO RUN INTO NOT THAT YOU WOULDN'T PAY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE INSINUATING.

WE'RE JUST SAYING THIS IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM IN THIS SITUATION.

>> TO ME, YOUR INSTINCTS WERE CORRECT WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT UP THE "IF YOU DON'T TIE US A CERTAIN DATE," THEN PROMISES CAN BE MADE,

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BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO FOLLOW UP.

I UNDERSTAND AND I RESPECT PROPERTY OWNER AND I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S MADE AN INVESTMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION OF HAVING GOVERNMENT MAKING YOU DO SOMETHING THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T PARTICULARLY NEED AT THE VERY MOMENT, BUT MY POSITION IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR THE LONG-TERM BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY WITH MS. DANIEL ON THAT ONE.

I THINK WE SHOULD SET A CERTAIN DATE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO BE IMMEDIATE, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN TABLE FOR NOW AND COME BACK TO IT.

>> I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THOUGH, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IS WE'RE GIVING GUIDANCE, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT.

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LET'S GIVE GUIDANCE.

>> WE'LL DO THE FINAL NEGOTIATION BETWEEN CITY MANAGER, LEGAL, AND THE APPLICANT, AND THEN BRING THIS BACK SECOND MEETING IN NEXT MONTH FOR THE ACTUAL ACTION ON THE ANNEXATION PLUS THE SERVICE PLAN.

>> WELL, IN THAT TIME, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE SOME TIME TO GET TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE MAY PUT A TIME IN THE FUTURE IN WHICH PUBLIC WORKS AND BILL UTILITY BILLING WOULD SAY, "SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THIS FOR HOW LONG?"

>> I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION, GRADY?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> LET'S SAY WE SAY FIVE YEARS AND HE HAS TO TIE AND JUST WILL TIE INTO OUR WATER.

WHAT IF THE PROPERTY CHANGES OWNERSHIP IN THAT TIME PERIOD?

>> WE CAN PUT A TRIGGER IN THERE IF THIS IS PERSONAL TO HIM.

RUNS WITH THE LAND OR IT RUNS WITH THE LAND, ONE OF THE TWO, IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP, THEN IT MAY TRIGGER IMMEDIATE HOOKING UP TO THE WATER SYSTEM.

THE OTHER ISSUE I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS, WHAT IS THE REMEDY WE KNOW? I'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TURN OFF THE SEWER.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.

>> THAT IS THE OTHER THING SUSIE MADE A GREAT POINT, I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS SAY HE DOES NOT PAY HIS SEWER CHARGE, IF HE'S GETTING WATER FROM HIS OWN WELL, YOU CAN'T STOP THAT.

YOU CAN'T GO AND TURN HIS OWN PRIVATE WELL OFF.

>> CORRECT.

>> YOU CAN PLUG THE SEWER, MAYBE, BUT THAT'S NOT SANITARY.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S HOW YOU LEVERAGE SOMEBODY TO PAY THEIR BILL: YOU TURN THE WATER OFF AND THE WATER THEREFORE THEY HAVE NO SEWER.

IF HE DOES NOT TAKE IN SEWER WATER, AND HE'S PRODUCING HIS OWN WATER, THEN HE CAN JUST KEEP USING THE SEWER ENDLESSLY.

IF NOT SAYING HE'S GOING TO BUT THEORETICAL.

>> YES, BUT THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO ASSUME COULD COME UP AT SOME POINT.

>> MAY BE THE GREATEST OWNER IN THE WORLD AND SOMEBODY COME AND OFFER HIM A DEAL THEY CAN'T REFUSE, AND THEN WE'RE IN A SITUATION. [OVERLAPPING].

>> OR WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMEONE ELSE.

>> YES.

>> WE'RE UP THE CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE.

>> WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ANNEXED, WE HAD TO TIE IN IMMEDIATELY TO CITY SERVICES.

>> NOW, DID THAT PREPARE LAND WHERE WE WERE?

>> THE WATER TASTED REALLY BAD.

[LAUGHTER] DRINK OUT OF THE WATER, AND SO WE USED OUR WELL UP UNTIL LAST YEAR FOR OUTSIDE WATER.

IT LASTED THAT LONG AND NOW IT'S CAVED IN AND OTHER PEOPLE FILL THEIR SWIMMING POOLS WITH THAT WATER. THERE'S USES FOR IT.

>> WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL HAVE CONSIDERED SOME IDEAS THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE HURDLES.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH THESE ISSUES AND CAN PRESENT THEM TO US.

>> YES, SIR.

>> AND ANY POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

>> WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE SINCE YOU HAVEN'T HAD THIS DISCUSSION YET.

>> WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO US WITH THIS ANNEXATION REQUEST.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT.

WE'VE JUST RUN ACROSS A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

IT'S LIKE THE FARMERS INSURANCE COMMERCIALS, EACH ONE OF US TOGETHER HAS SEEN ENOUGH TO HAVE SEEN ALMOST ALL OF IT.

>> I UNDERSTAND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT [INAUDIBLE]

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, MR. HAVIER?

>> NOTHING ELSE FROM MY END.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HAVE A BLESSED EVENING.

>> YOU TOO.

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>> YOU TOO. CONTINUING ON REGULAR AGENDA,

[5. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20250923-005 nominating candidate(s) for a position on the Board of Directors of the Brazoria County Appraisal District.]

ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20250923-005, NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR A POSITION ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

I SEE SUSIE.

>> NO, THAT'S MY [INAUDIBLE] SUSIE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WELL, ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'D BE MICHELLE.

>> YES.

>> MS. PEREZ, THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE UP TO TWO NOMINEES TO BE PLACED ON THE BCAD BALLOT, AND THAT BALLOT WILL COME BACK IN DECEMBER FOR YOU TO VOTE ON.

WE'VE RECEIVED FOUR APPLICATIONS, AND THAT'S FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON.

>> MICHELLE, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE CAN HAVE JUST ONE.

>> YES.

>> SUSAN SPOOR IS THE CURRENT DIRECTOR THAT SERVES ON THE BOARD.

>> DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY LEAVING?

>> HER TERM IS UP.

>> HER TERM IS UP AND SHE'S NOT REAPPLIED?

>> SHE DID REAPPLY.

>> I THOUGHT I SAW GAIL ROBINSON ON THERE, TOO, BUT I'M SORRY.

>> WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE SUSAN SPOOR AGAIN, SINGULARLY.

>> MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS AM I NOT READING THAT CORRECTLY? DO WE NOT HAVE TWO PEOPLE PRESENTLY NOMINATED?

>> NO, IT'S JUST THE ONE.

IT'S A MATTER OF VOTES.

>> I WAS LOOKING AT PAGE 52, THAT SAYS CURRENT MEMBERS TERMS ENDING, SUSAN SPOOR AND GAIL ROBINSON.

>> YOU CAN NOMINATE UP TO TWO PEOPLE.

>> THAT'S MY POINT. IS MS. ROBINSON SHE WAS NOMINATED BUT GOT NO VOTES?

>> SHE ISN'T ONE OF THE FOUR APPLICATIONS.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION EARLIER. I SAID HAS SHE NOT REAPPLY?

>> NO.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARD.

I CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN?

>> THE MOTION CARRIES FOR SUSAN SPOOR TO BE THE DIRECTOR FOR THIS TERM.

>> I APPRECIATE ALL APPLICANTS WHO APPLIED FOR THE POSITION.

I LIKE HOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE INTEREST IN OUR POSITIONS THAT WE APPOINT.

>> YES.

>> MOVING ON, ITEM NUMBER 6: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE

[6. Discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20250923-006 an ordinance amending the 2024-2025 Fiscal Year Budget by amending the Angleton Better Living Corporation, Angleton Recreation Center, Angleton Activity Center; providing a public necessity; severability clause; providing and open meetings clause and effective date.]

ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250923-006, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 2024-2025 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET BY AMENDING THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, ANGLETON ACTIVITY CENTER, PROVIDING A PUBLIC NECESSITY SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING AN OPEN MEETINGS CLAUSE AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

NOW, I SEE, MR. HERNANDEZ.

>> SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> MAYOR PRO-TEM AND COUNCIL, THIS ORDINANCE IS PART OF THE AMENDED ORDINANCE THAT WAS DONE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

ALL OF THE REC CENTER AND ABLC PORTION WAS LEFT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE, SO I'M JUST DOING SOME IN-HOUSE HOUSEKEEPING, AND THIS IS JUST PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BACK IN JANUARY.

NOW ALL THE AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE AND EVERYTHING IS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU, SUSIE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250923-006 TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET FOR '24-'25.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, I CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.

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>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION CARRIES.

[7. Discussion on proposing an ordinance to ban eight liner gaming machines within city limits.]

ITEM NUMBER 7" DISCUSSION ON PROPOSING AN ORDINANCE TO BAN EIGHT-LINER GAMING MACHINES WITHIN CITY LIMITS.

>> I'LL GO ON THIS ONE. I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY A FEW PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BASED ON JUST WHAT THEY DID IN ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING TOWNS, AND I SAID THAT I WOULD AT LEAST BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR A DISCUSSION ON, IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO ENTERTAIN, PROS AND CONS, AND GO FROM THERE.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SMITH, APPRECIATE IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, DISCUSSION ITEMS?

>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PD. [LAUGHTER]

>> CHIEF [INAUDIBLE]

>> AND EVERYBODY, OBVIOUS.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> PROS, CONS?

>> THERE'S ALWAYS CONTROVERSY AROUND THEM. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HAVE WE GOT MORE TRAFFIC SINCE CLUTE AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE CLOSED THEIRS.

THAT WAS A PERCEPTION.

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> ARE YOU SEEING MORE VIOLATIONS, MORE CUSTOMERS, MORE ISSUES NOW THAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE CLOSED THEIR EIGHT-LINERS?

>> WE SAW A BIG DOWNGRADE.

IF YOU REMEMBER WHERE [INAUDIBLE], WE USED TO HAVE THEM EVERYWHERE.

I GUESS THE THING THAT'S BEEN AROUND IT IS HOW DO THEY SUCCESSFULLY RUN WITHOUT STEPPING OVER THAT LINE AND BEING ILLEGAL.

>> FOR THE CITIZENS, WHAT MAKES IT ILLEGAL?

>> YES. I THINK MOST OF IT FALLS UNDER THE CLASS A MISDEMEANOR, AND ALL WE CAN DO IS TAKE THE BOARD OUT, I BELIEVE.

THEN THEY END UP HALF OF IT.

THERE'S ALWAYS CONTROVERSY AROUND IT.

THAT'S OUR HEADACHE.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION: HOW MANY DO WE PRESENTLY HAVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS?

>> JUST IF YOU HAD TO GUESS. TWO GAMES?

>> HOW MANY OTHER PLACES HAVE [OVERLAPPING].

>> SOME OF THE CONVENIENCE STORES ON THE SOUTH IN TOWN HAVE THEM RIGHT ON FRONT OF THE WINDOWS.

>> WE HAVE 12 STORES, BECAUSE WE JUST DID A CHECK.

NOT IN TWO GAMES [INAUDIBLE] ONE IN PARADISE, JACK PUCKS, ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THEY JUST RENEWED. WE WERE SURPRISED BECAUSE WITH THEIR NEW FEE SCHEDULE, IT WENT UP A LOT.

THEY BOTH RENEWED JUST RECENTLY.

>> DO WE RECEIVE SALES TAX FROM THAT?

>> PROPERTY TAX.

>> WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION FROM WHAT EXACTLY?

>> WHAT ARE THEY SELLING?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THEY'RE JUST HERE?

>> WELL, I'M SURE THEY HAVE TO PAY OUT [OVERLAPPING].

>> RENEW LICENSES.

>> THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATION FEE WHEN I WAS READING OUR ORDINANCE ON IT NOW.

THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATION FEE AND A LICENSING FEE.

>> YOU STILL HAVE TO PROPERTY.

>> DEPENDING ON NUMBER OF MACHINES.

>> THEY PULL THEM INTO THE STORE, YOU BUY A COKE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF SALES TAX.

>> STILL WORKING WITH OUR ORDINANCE, YOU CAN HAVE THREE, LIKE IN A CONVENIENCE STORE.

IF YOU HAVE FOUR THAT WOULD PUSH IT TO THEY NEED AN ISSUE FEE FOR A GAME.

>> HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU GET IT TO WHERE THEY'RE OVER THE LIMIT? I NOTICED IN OUR STAFF REPORT JULY TO AUGUST, THERE WAS THREE INSTANCES WHERE THEY WERE OVER THE LIMIT.

>> YES.

>> ONE OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC ONE, BUT JUST ONE.

>> WE HAD THREE OR FOUR IN OUR JUST RECENT CHECK.

AFTER THAT, IT JUST BE AUTOMATIC CITATIONS.

THEY REMOVE THEM AT THAT MOMENT.

>> BUT THEY COME BACK?

>> THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN WE CHECK THEM, OF COURSE, BUT THAT'LL GO STRAIGHT TO CITATIONS.

>> BUT THE MONEY THEY'RE PULLING IN VERSUS PAYING THE CITATION JUST PUTS THE ALLEGEDLY [OVERLAPPING].

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF HATES.

>> THEY'RE NOT LOSING MONEY.

>> NO.

>> THEY WOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS. NOT MANY OF THEM.

>> I THINK, BOTTOM LINE IS IF SOMEBODY'S OVER ONE OR TWO MACHINES, OR IS IT THE WHOLE MACHINE PROBLEM? WHAT DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT? IS IT THE FACT THAT THE MACHINE EXISTS AND IT'S OPERATING,

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OR IS IT THE PROBLEM THAT THERE ARE OVER ONE MACHINE, TWO MACHINES?

>> SO I WOULD THINK THE PROBLEM WOULD BE THAT TO DO IT RIGHT, TO LEGISLATE OR TO REGULATE IT CORRECTLY, NOW WOULD TAKE RESOURCES ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SIDE TO ROUTINELY CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE LAWS ARE BEING ABIDED AND NOT BEING BROKEN.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INVESTMENT OF TIME THAT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE TO GO IN PERIODICALLY AND DO THE PROPER CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MORE THAN THEY WANT TO SPEND? [LAUGHTER] ONE IMPORTANT THING.

>> AGREE.

>> SAME WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.

THEY'RE HAVING TO GO IN AND CHECK, TOO.

WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO [OVERLAPPING].

>> SOMETHING IS UNDER THE TABLE.

> WALK-IN DAY.

>> THAT WON'T STOP.

>> I'M SURE NOBODY'S EVER DONE UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATIONS AT THESE PLACES.

>> THE COUNTY JUST DID IT ON THE SAME SIDE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> SO THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU.

IS IT I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL PRO OF BANNING THESE, OR I GUESS, WOULD BE TO ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES TO BE USED ELSEWHERE.

I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER CONS. I'M JUST SAYING THAT COULD BE A PRO.

>> AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, HAVE YOU BEEN THROUGH THIS IN OTHER CITIES?

>> OH, YES.

>> IS IT?

>> I'LL ECHO WHAT THE POLICE SAID, IT'S LIKE..IN FACT, THE CITY ATTORNEY ASSOCIATION MEETING THIS SUMMER HAD A 52-PAGE SLIDE DECK ON THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.

I WAS JUST BLOWING UP THE PICTURE WHEN YOU ASKED ME. THAT'S WHAT.

BUT THIS IS THE WORST DESTRUCTION.

THEY DON'T SEIZE THE MACHINES, OR THEY SEIZE THEM.

THEY HAVE TO WAREHOUSE THEM. THEY'RE HEAVY.

AND THEN, BECAUSE THEY KEPT COMING BACK, THEY GOT AN ORDER TO DESTROY HIM.

THAT'S A GUY WITH A SLEDGEHAMMER DESTROYING THEM.

NOW, FOR WORST ORDINANCE WENT UP FOR APPEAL TWICE TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT.

THAT'S TWO TRIAL COURTS, 2 COURTS OF APPEALS, TO TWO ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT.

AND IT IS A QUESTION OF HOW THEY WERE REGULATING IT BY ZONING, AND THEY PUT IT IN.

IT'S NOT A RED LIGHT DISTRICT, BUT IT'S, GANG ROOM DISTRICT?

>> YEAH.

>> OUT BY THE CEMETERY OR THE SEWER PLANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT VERSUS JUST AN OUT-AND-OUT BAND.

AND THEIR ORDINANCE, WHICH I HAVE UP, IS ONLY SIX PAGES. THAT'S NOT TOO BAD.

>> THAT'S FORT WORTH.

>> THAT'S FORT WORTH. IT CAN BE DONE.

IT'S JUST HOW MUCH RESOURCE IS IT A PROBLEM THAT YOU WANT TO COMMIT SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO SOLVE?

>> I THINK I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

WHEN YOU TRAVEL SOUTH DOWN TO EIGHTH BUSINESS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THOSE GAME ROOMS. AND I WONDER IF SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THE ANGLETON CITY LIMITS WHEN THEY'RE NOT.

SO WHETHER THAT'S COUNTY OR RICHWOOD, THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S JURISDICTION.

I KNOW I'M SHOOK, I CAN LET THE POLICE TALK TO THIS.

I WON'T USE MY OWN EXPERIENCE.

BUT MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IS THAT THERE ARE CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED IN CONNECTION WITH GAME ROOMS. SO THAT IS JUST A REALITY.

AGGRAVATED ROBBERIES, DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, BASICALLY YOUR VICE CRIMES.

>> DRUG ROBBERIES ARE NOT REPORTED.

>> YEAH. THEY'RE EASY TO ATTACK BECAUSE IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO ONE DRUG DEALER ROBBING ANOTHER DRUG DEALER, ESSENTIALLY.

>> YEAH, IT'S NOT EXACTLY SOMETHING YOU CAN GO TO THE POLICE FOR, IS IT?

>> YEAH.

>> SEEMS CRAZIER.

>> THEY STOLE MY VAPE [LAUGHTER]

>> AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YES.

I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD REPORTS, AND WE'VE HAD STUFF COME UP IN OTHER INVESTIGATIONS WHERE WE FOUND OUT ABOUT A STRONG-ARMED ROBBERY OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT THAT IT WASN'T REPORTED BECAUSE THE ESTABLISHMENT,

[00:50:04]

THE PARTICULAR INCIDENTS I'M TALKING ABOUT, THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER HERE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CALL BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING THE ILLEGAL.

>> THEY DON'T WANT YOU DIGGING TOO DEEP.

>> YEAH.

>> DON'T WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YOU, SO.

>> AND I'M NOT SURE ON THE PERMITTING SIDE BECAUSE I KNOW SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE DID A BIG SWEEP, AND WE HAD STOCK TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING.

WE SEARCH FOR WARS ON ALL THE BIG ONES.

NEXT THING, 60 DAYS LATER, THEY'RE TRUCKING MACHINE RIGHT BACK IN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING IN UNDER DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S NAMES.

THEY HAD TO HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, WE HAD TO PULL THE BOARDS, AND THE BOARDS ARE ACTUALLY WHAT WENT TO COURT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PERMITTING WORKS, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE WAY AROUND IT UNLESS WE BUILD A WAY NOT TO GO AROUND IT.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE IT IS FOR THEM NOT TO BE HERE.

EITHER WAY, IT'S I JUST THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO GET AROUND.

>> WELL, I WOULD TELL YOU, I WOULD WELCOME ANYBODY WHO IS A PROPRIETOR OF A GAME ROOM ESTABLISHMENT TO SHOW UP AND TELL ME HOW THIS IS PROFITABLE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LAW.

>> YEAH, I THINK THEY ALL SEE THE CONVENIENCE STORES.

I MEAN, THEY'LL CONTINUE.

THEY CHANGE OWNERSHIP PRETTY REGULARLY.

NEXT THING, THERE ARE 67 MACHINES.

THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU CAN GO TO CERTAIN STORES, THEY KNOW IT'S THREE. GO IN.

THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A CONSTANT UNLESS WE CHANGE SOMETHING FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORES, ALSO TO HAVE THREE.

THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY A PERMIT FEE.

>> OR WE JUST SAY REVIEW, OR WE JUST SAY THERE WILL BE NO MORE EIGHT-LINER MACHINES A CITY LIMITS.

AND THEN WE CAN JUST, AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE AS FAR AS.

>> TO GET SUED.

>> CORRECT.

>> GETTING TO THAT POINT, IF WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH WITH IT, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, HOW LONG DO YOU GIVE THESE PEOPLE TO SHUT DOWN OR GET THEIR STUFF OUT AND ALL THAT STUFF? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESOURCES LOOK LIKE AT THAT POINT OF IT.

>> I THINK WORTH HAVING THE RESOURCES TO SUE. WE DON'T.

>> OR TO DEFEND.

>> TO DEFEND [OVERLAPPING]. YEAH.

>> WIN THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT, DID THEY JUST RULE THAT THOSE MACHINES ARE ILLEGAL?

>> YEAH. THEY DID.

>> WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, I THINK.

>> HAS IT BEEN THROUGH APPEALS AND BEEN TO THE SUPREME COURT?

>> WORSE HAS BEEN TO FOUR APPEALS.

THAT'S A LOT OF ATTORNEY'S FEES?

>> YEAH.

>> SO FOR ME, IN THAT SITUATION, IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNSEL'S INTERESTED IN DOING.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD JUST BE THAT YOU SET AN ORDER ORDINANCE TO BE ACTIVE AT SOME FUTURE DATE WITHIN SOME TIME FRAME, AND AT THAT POINT, EVERYBODY HAS TO COMPLY, AND THAT'S THE END OF IT.

>> CAN WE TAKE THEM OUT OF CONVENIENCE STORES? WOULD THAT BE AN ORDINANCE TO TIGHTEN THEIR LOCATION?

>> I'D HAVE TO LOOK, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN UP AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION OF TREATING A CONVENIENCE STORE DIFFERENTLY THAN A GAME ROOM.

>> OKAY.

>> THE GAME ROOM, IF IT'S AN SUP, THOSE ARE OPTIONAL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GRANT ANY MORE SUP.

SO YOU CAN STOP THE GAME ROOM.

>> THAT'S WHERE I LAND.

>> AT THAT POINT THAT THEY THEY RUN THEIR THEY HAVE TO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO RUN THEIR SUP OUT AND IT'S NOT APPROVED.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD PROBABLY LAND US.

>> THIS PROBLEM SOLVES ITSELF.

>> WE CAN REGULATE IT. DON'T OF COURSE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONSENSUS ON COUNSEL.

THEN WHOEVER SITS UP HERE DECIDES WHETHER TO ALLOW IT, OR NO, NO SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH. I THINK YOU JUST LET THE DURATION LAPSE, AND THEN WHEN THEY REAPPLY, YOU MAKE THE DECISION THEN.

AS FAR AS THE CONVENIENCE STORES ARE CONCERNED, WE HAVE REGULATED IT TO THREE. SEEMS REASONABLE.

MAYBE NOT. MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT TWO.

AND THEN, WE'RE NOT STRICTLY BANNING IT,

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BUT IT'S LIMITING HOW MANY THERE ARE, I THINK, WHICH I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD.

I'M NOT A CONVENIENCE STORE OWNER.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PEOPLE LOWERING YOUR BUSINESS ALL DAY.

MAYBE THEY'RE LIKELY TO SPEND MORE MONEY BECAUSE AS THEY SPEND TIME, THEY WANT SOMETHING TO DRINK OR SOMETHING TO EAT.

OR YOU DON'T WANT TO MENTION BUSINESS ALL DAY BECAUSE THEY INVITE YOU TO JOIN THEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME STEPS WE CAN TAKE WITHOUT PERHAPS JOINING OURSELVES IN A LAWSUIT.

SO IF THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US,

>> SO DO THE CONVENIENCE STORES ALSO OPERATE UNDER AN SUP TO HAVE THEM? THEY JUST HAVE A PERMIT.

>> BASICALLY, THEY CAN HAVE THREE AS ENTERTAINMENT, I GUESS, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUP REQUIRED.

>> LIKE ALL OF THE VIDEO GAMES FOR KIDS.

>>YES [INAUDIBLE].

>> SO BATMAN IS WHATEVER.

>> YEAH. OKAY.

>> NO, NOBODY EVER GAVE ME A CASE OF BEER OR A CARTON OF MARLBORO'S WHEN I WON MORTAL COMBAT AS A KID [LAUGHTER], [INAUDIBLE].

>> WE MAY HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

SO THE SUPS COME UP, AND THEY HAVE A TIME LIMIT. THEY EXPIRE.

>> GENERALLY, DON'T THEY?

>> THE ONE OF NORTH DOES NOT HAVE A SUP.

I THINK IT PREDATED THE REGULATIONS, AND IT'S IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THEY ALMOST LOST THEIR LICENSE RECENTLY.

HAD THEY LOST THE LICENSE, WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO GO BACK THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS.

AND THEN, IN THAT CODE, THERE'S A SEPARATION DISTANCE, PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, AND HE WOULD HAVE HAD AN ISSUE.

>> THE OTHER ONE THAT IS UNDER AN SUP, DOES THAT HAVE A TIME LIMIT? IS THAT ATTACHED?

>> I HAVE TO MAKE SURE.

>> WE'RE NOT SURE IF [OVERLAPPING].

>> IF WE WERE NOT TO SAY HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO BAN EIGHT-LINERS, BUT IF WE HAD AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE GOING TO GRADY, TO REQUIRE I DON'T KNOW, SOME LICENSING, I GUESS FROM THE CITY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, COULD THAT CIRCUMVENT THE OLD GRANDFATHERING IN OF THE PREVIOUS?

>> THE TEXAS OCCUPATIONS CODE REGULATES, TO SOME EXTENT, EIGHT-LINERS.

SO YOU'VE GOT A PREEMPTION ISSUE.

I'M STARING AT.

I'M TRYING TO GET AROUND TOO.

>> IT'S A STICKY, UGLY, NOT VERY CLEAR GRAY AREA THAT THE POWERS OF B AND AUSTIN HAVE NOT CLEARLY DEFINED, AND HELP CITIES TO REGULATE.

>> OR NEW EIGHT-LINERS? CAN WE DETERMINE IF SOMETHING COMES IN A BUSINESS THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP, SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO WRITE A WHOLE NEW ONE FOR A NEW BUSINESS? AT THAT TIME, WE COULD TIGHTEN IT AND HAVE A REVIEW OR TURN IT DOWN AND JUST GO, NO. DO WE HAVE TO SAY WHY?

>> NO.

>> YOU HAVE TO BUILD YOUR CASE.

>> IF TO GRANT AN SUP OR NOT GRANT AN SUP, IF WE SAY. CAN YOU [OVERLAPPING].

>> I GUESS WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS, AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, CAN WE SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GRANT A SUP TO BUSINESSES THAT CONDUCT THIS TYPE OF COMMERCE?

>> I THINK YOU CAN. I MEAN, [OVERLAPPING].

>> I THINK SO TOO. IT WOULD BE IN THE SUP THAT SAYS THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL THIS BE A GAME?

>> YOU'VE GOT TO NOTIFY THE CODE.

>> YEAH. I MEAN, TYPICALLY, SUPS ARE OPTIONAL FOR THE CITY TO GROW.

THEN YOU CAN PUT CONDITIONS ON THEM; SOME OF THE CANDLE POWER OF THE LIGHTING WOULD BE LIKE THE FACE OF THE SUN.

ALL THE WINDOWS HAVE TO BE CLEAR.

>> YOU HAVE TO WEAR SUNGLASSES PRACTICALLY IN THE STORE, WHICH, IN EFFECT, PROHIBITS THEM.

BUT I WOULD REQUIRE SOME CLEANUP ON THE ORDINANCE.

BUT AGAIN, IF THE DEAL IS LET THEM RUN OUT AND DON'T RENEW THEM, JUST LET THEM ATROPHY.

THAT'S PERFECT [OVERLAPPING].

>> WELL, IF WE'RE ABLE TO DAM IT UP AND THEN LET THAT OCCUR ORGANICALLY, THE PROBLEM SOLVES ITSELF.

>> LIKE THE 2 WE HAVE, I THINK,

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THEY HAVE THEIR PERMITS TO A CERTAIN DATE, OF COURSE.

THEY CAN PAY A LATE FEE TO A CERTAIN POINT, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED.

THEY HADN'T PAID AT THAT POINT. I'M NOT SURE.

COULD WE FORCE THEM INTO A SUP TO REOPEN BECAUSE THE PERMIT EXPIRED?

>> YOU CAN FORCE THEM NOT TO OPERATE THE 8 LINERS AND THROW OFF PERMITTED.

>> I WOULDN'T WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO JUST GRANT THE PERMIT AGAIN.

>> IF YOUR CODE PROVIDES FOR THAT.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE JUST CLEAN UP THE CODE A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THIS PROBLEM JUST FIXES ITSELF OVER TIME ONCE THIS STUFF STARTS.

>> I CALL IT FREEZE AND AWARD AND FALL OFF EVENTUALLY.

>> BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THOSE MACHINES ARE NOT REGULATED BY ANYONE.

NOT LIKE THEY'RE REGULATED BY THE TREASURY OR REGULATED BY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT MONEY'S GOING IN, MUCH LESS COMING OUT.

THEY'RE NOT CONTROLLED.

THAT TIES A LOT OF HANDS.

>> IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT CLEANING UP THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

ORDINANCE, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.

>> WE NEED TO TABLE IT FOR THE CHIEF [INAUDIBLE].

>> MAYBE, BUT MY POINT WAS THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ELECTION.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO TAKE UP TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCES, THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT.

[OVERLAPPING] WE JUST LIKE WE VOTED ON.

>> PUTTING THE ORDINANCE ON THE BALLOT..

>> WE DID THAT 3, 4 YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD OUR REFERENDUM.

WE CHANGED A LOT OF OUR CHARTER TO UPDATE IT, TOO.

>> YEAH.

>> CURRENT STATE LAW, WHICH IS ALWAYS CHANGING.

>> DOES THAT GET US OUT OF COURT?

>> NO. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS MULTIPLE ISSUES COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE PUT ON THERE.

>> YEAH. SEVERAL OTHER THINGS NEED TO BE SHORED UP.

>> WE CAN SET IT, I BELIEVE, IF I'M WRONG, BUT EITHER IN THE MAY ELECTION OR THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER EACH YEAR.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> IS IT A LOWER LIKELIHOOD THAT WILL BE OUT OF?

>> WHEN YOU HAVE A VOTE AS OPPOSED TO WHEN YOU HAVE AN ELECTION AS OPPOSED TO A VOTE? CITY COUNCIL, SURE.

>> I MEAN, AND GRADY, MR. RANDALL, OR HIS FIRM WILL GIVE LEGAL ADVICE ON ALL THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GOING UP FOR VOTE TO THE BEST VERBIAGE.

NOTHING IS YOU KNOW, FULL SUIT, YOU KNOW, FULL PROOF FROM A LAWSUIT. THERE JUST NEVER IS.

YOU CAN SUE ANYBODY OR ANYTHING.

BUT THEY WOULD LEAD US AND GIVE US THE BEST GUIDANCE THEY COULD.

>> JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I'M JUST SAYING IF THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES, TOO, WE'RE NOT JUST WE'RE GOING TO.

>> WHATEVER WAY WE NEED TO DO IT, AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO GO OUT IN A LAWSUIT AND ALL THAT STUFF. I MEAN.

>> BUT AGAIN, I ASKED HOW BIG A PROBLEM IT IS? VERSUS THE PERCEPTION OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE IF IT'S IN THE COUNTY OR RICHWOOD, THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT ONE.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE POINTS I'M TRYING TO MAKE EARLIER, THAT PD AND ORDINANCE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY HAVE DATA.

>> IF YOU WANT TO PULL THE TRIGGER, YOU LOOK AT IT.

>> IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'LL WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW?

>>NO.

>> I'M ALL FOR CLEANING UP.

I'M WITH YOU, BLAINE.

LIKE, I WOULD LIKE REGULATIONS AND LAWS TO BE ABLE TO BACK US AND HAVE AN EASY WAY TO GET RID OF THE PROBLEM.

I JUST SEE A HUGE HEADACHE.

EVEN IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO SAY NO MORE 8 LINERS.

WELL, THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE ONES THAT HAVE THEM? ARE WE GOING TO CONFISCATE THEM? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM? LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO TELL THEM OUT? THEY'RE GOING TO GET SOME MORE.

>> THAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THESE THAT WE GO TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT WAS.

>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO START CONFISCATING,

[01:05:01]

THAT IS A CONDEMNATION OR AN INVERSE CONDEMNATION.

YOU WILL GET SUED ON IT.

>> YEAH. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, PLANE.

>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR THE.

>>THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]

COMMUNICATIONS, I'M FOLLOWING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA I PRESENTED [LAUGHTER].

I DON'T WRITE THE AGENDA.

I JUST READ IT.

COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTED TOWARDS STAFF OR AMONGST OURSELVES?

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU TO MARTHA AND STAFF FOR THE EXCELLENT CONCERT IN THE PARK SERIES.

ALL THE SWIFTIES.

THAT WAS JUST SO PRECIOUS [LAUGHTER].

MY DAUGHTER HAD THE BEST TIME.

THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT CONCERT.

>> 800.

>> WOW. I WAS A LOT OF LITTLE SCREAMING LITTLE GIRLS.

IT WAS PRECIOUS [LAUGHTER].

>> THE SWIFTIES.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> OH NO. I'M JUST.

ONE THING I. I'M GOING BY ORDER HERE [LAUGHTER].

>> SORRY.

>> I KNOW, I THINK LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED THE UPDATE, OR A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, RECEIVING AN UPDATE ON I BELIEVE IT'S THE.

IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE ON OCTOBER 14TH?

>> THE 14TH.

>> I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE.

I WON'T BE HERE NEXT TIME ON THE 14TH.

I GUESS THE 28TH, I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE FOLLOWING.

I WANT TO UPDATE ON ABGA AREAS PARK.

I WANT TO UPDATE, AND THAT CAN INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING TO ANY FINANCING.

DESIGN, WHATEVER WE ARE, I JUST WANT TO UPDATE ON THOSE THINGS.

>> IF THERE ARE ANY ROADBLOCKS THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE.

>> WHAT'S THE DAY FOR THE 1ST SHOVEL IN THE GROUND?

>> SORRY. THERE'S ONE MORE I WAS GOING TO SAY. WE THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT IF I CAN'T REMEMBER, I'LL THINK OF IT LATER, TEXT YOU GUYS, OR CALL Y'ALL.

I DEFINITELY LIKE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

>> ON THE 14TH OR [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE 28TH ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I WILL BE BACK FOR THAT ONE.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE, AND JOHN WAS HERE EARLIER ON OUR BOND PACKAGE.

SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME ON OR THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT I THINK IT'S PARISH AND IN SEVERAL SADDLE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING SOME CHANGES AND ESPECIALLY IN SEVERAL SADDLE, THERE MAY NOT MAY HAVE SOME RESIDENTS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ON BOARD WITH WHAT THEY I GUESS THE VARIATION BETWEEN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND WHAT MAY BE NOW BEING DONE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT. THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THE TOWN HALL LAST WEEK.

>> OH, YES.

>> THE PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT.

THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO CAME OUT [OVERLAPPING]. READ THE WORD HERE.

THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK, AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING LATE AND MAKING IT A GOOD EVENT AND VERY INFORMATIVE.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK ON THAT.

>> GREAT QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE AND THE CITIZENS THAT THEY WERE INFORMED, AND SUSIE HAD WORKED SO HARD, AND HECTOR, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT IN SCHOOL THING WITH HIS CHILDREN.

BUT YEAH, LOTS AND LOTS OF WORK.

MARTHA WRANGLED EVERYBODY WITH THE MICROPHONES [LAUGHTER].

>> MY SPEECH ABOUT SHOWING UP TO COUNCIL WAS NOT EXACTLY FOR THE NIGHT.

WE DID GET IT ATTENDED [LAUGHTER].

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> OF COURSE, JASON AND BRANDON MAN, ATTY, YOU ALL SHINED.

GOOD. IT WAS FLAWLESS, AND THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN [LAUGHTER].

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IN A PRESENTATION. IT WAS GREAT.

THEN YOU UPLOADED.

EVERYBODY CAN SEE AN UPLOAD OF THE MEETING.

LOTS OF GOOD WORK BY EVERYBODY.

>> ALRIGHT. ANY MORE COMMUNICATIONS? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CALL US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED THEREIN, ITEM NUMBER 8.

DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT.

GOODNESS GRACIOUS. I APOLOGIZE.

DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THIS IS FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.

WE HAVE REMOVED THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE AND MUNICIPAL COURT PROSECUTOR.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL CALL US TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

TIME IS 7:11.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TIME IS 7:36.

[OPEN SESSION]

WE HAVE EXITED THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND WE'RE NOW IN THE OPEN SESSION.

THE CITY COUNCIL NOW ADJOURNS EXECUTIVE SESSION, RECONVENES INTO OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, GOVERNMENT CODE, AND TAKES ACTION, IF ANY, ON THE ITEMS DISCUSSED DURING CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTION?

>> WE DO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION, AND I'M ASSUMING I CAN JUST READ THROUGH THESE THE SAME WAY I DID BEFORE.

I'D MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT TRAVIS TOWNSEND, JOHN WRIGHT, AND LOUIS LAHA TO ALBC TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE WILL REAPPOINT ANDREW HESTON AND AARON BORN.

TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, JANIE SCHWARTZ SHAW AND TODD GUNTHER WILL BE REAPPOINTED.

TO THE KEITH ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL COMMISSION, PATTY COOPER, HEATHER BREWER, DANA MATHS, AND SUZANNE DELLINGER WILL BE REAPPOINTED.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS, JESSICA NORRIS, GIAN PIPKINS, VOLPE MILES, AND LEWIS LEH WILL BE REAPPOINTED.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

WE WILL REAPPOINT REGINA BERRY AND MICHELLE TOWNSON TO, SENIOR CITIZEN COMMISSION.

WE WILL APPOINT LEON CLEVES, AND WE WILL REAPPOINT SARAH MCDANIEL, PAT ASH BACH, SHERRY PHILLIPS, AND JANIE SCHUSO. SHAW.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

>> I SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>>ANY OPPOSING SIGN? THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WHO HAVE NOW HE'S BEEN REAPPOINTED OR ADDED TO OUR BOARDS.

WE THANK EVERYBODY FOR TAKING THE TIME TO APPLY.

THERE ARE STILL SOME OPENINGS OUT THERE.

IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING THIS COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY, THE CITY OF ANGLETON, ON ONE OF THESE BOARDS, WE WELCOME YOU. WE WANT YOU.

WE ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING PEOPLE TO TAKE ON THESE ROLES.

CHECK OUR WEBSITES, CHECK OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THESE, IF ANYBODY'S ACTUALLY LISTENING TO ME RIGHT NOW, I'LL BE SURPRISED.

BUT WE WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.

>> ALSO, CALLING YOUR CHILDREN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR 16 TO 18-YEAR-OLDS OF ANGLETON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON OUR PARKS BOARD BECAUSE WE NEED THE YOUTHS' OPINIONS.

PLEASE HAVE YOUR CHILDREN APPLY.

THAT LOOKS REALLY GREAT ON COLLEGE RESUMES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. GREAT FOR COLLEGE RESUMES, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A PARK.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO WORK ON IT.

>> NATURAL EVENTS USUALLY REQUIRE PUBLIC SERVICE HOURS.

>> NOW YOU'RE ALL TALKING. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE [LAUGHTER].

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> I HAVE KIDS IN MY HOUSEHOLD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THE NIGHT.

THE TIME IS NOW 7:40 AT THE NIGHT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.