>> I DON'T HAVE RACHEL. [00:00:01] >> HEAR LIVE. IT IS 5:31. [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER] WE'RE GOING TO A MEETING AND CALL THIS MEETING ANGLETON BEER LIVING CORPORATION. >> YES SIR. >> WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. [1. Discussion and update on the Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation Division, and Angleton Recreation Center Division YTD financial statements fund balances as of October 14, 2025.] WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION OF UPDATE ON THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, RECREATION DIVISION, AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION, YEAR-TO-DATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND FUND BALANCES AS OF OCTOBER 14TH, 2025. GO AHEAD. >> I TALK REALLY LOUDLY AT THE MOMENT. JUST BECAUSE MIC IS DEAD. BUT THANK YOU, BOARD, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I WANT TO BRING UP BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCES LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THEY'LL BE IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA. GIVE ME ONE SECOND AS I GET THIS ONE LIVE. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE JUST STARTED OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE WOULD LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PACKETS, I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'LL START THE FIRST ONE AS FAR AS ABLC GOES, ON PAGE 3. WE WILL SEE THE REVENUE AND EXPENSE REPORTS. TO KEEP IN MIND FOR THIS ONE IS THAT WE ARE STILL ONE PAYMENT SHORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. WE DID RECEIVE THE PAYMENT FOR OCTOBER, SO THAT HAS BEEN INPUT INTO THAT FISCAL YEAR OR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE PAYMENT LEFT. I WILL POINT OUT THAT WITH THIS ONE, YOU'LL ACTUALLY NOTICE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET BALANCE, WE'RE ABOUT $300,000 SHORT. SUSIE AND I HAVE GONE BACK NUMEROUS TIMES ON THIS ONE. BASED ON HER RECOMMENDATION, SHE'S PUT AN ESTIMATED REVENUE OF ABOUT 2.1 OR 2.175, SAY. THAT WOULD LEAVE US ABOUT $125,000 SHORT. FOR THIS YEAR. WE WERE ANTICIPATING ABOUT A 7% INCREASE, AND IF OUR PROJECTIONS ARE CORRECT, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ABOUT 3%. OBVIOUSLY, NEGATIVE THERE IS WE HAVE TO MAKE UP THOSE FUNDS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT AND HOW THAT IMPACTS. BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND POINT OUT THAT FACTOR THERE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SHORT ON REVENUE FOR SALES TAX BEING DOWN THIS YEAR. IF WE KEEP GOING THROUGH TO PAGE YOUR PACKET PAGE 4. THIS SIDE WILL SHOW THE EXPENSE SIDE. THIS SHOULD BE THE FINAL EXPENSES. FINANCE AND I SAT DOWN LAST WEEK AND REVIEWED WHAT WAS REMAINING AS FAR AS FUND BALANCE TRANSFERS. WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT, AS THE WAY THE END OF THE YEAR IS LOOKING FOR THE GENERAL FUNDS. STILL WE FELT CONFIDENT THAT THAT FULL TRANSFER THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, THAT 50% THAT WE PROMISED TO THE GENERAL FUND, WAS NO LONGER NEEDED, SO HE REDUCED THE TRANSFER AMOUNTS. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CURRENT TRANSFER IS AT $500,000. THAT IS ACTUALLY DOWN FROM THE $685,000. IT'S ABOUT $185,000 THAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT US BECAUSE OF SOME OF THAT SHORTFALL. KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU REALLY SEE THAT HAS A REMAINING BALANCE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. >> [INAUDIBLE] WITH THAT CHANGE, YOU'VE ALREADY ESTIMATED TO LOWER THAT TRANSFER; THAT MONEY IS BASICALLY TIED UP AND BALANCING THE BUDGET. IT'S NOT OVER AND ABOVE ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE; IT'S JUST TO FILL IN THE HOLE. >> WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAD IN EXCESS, I FELT THAT THE GENERAL FUND DID NOT NEED THE WHOLE 50% THAT ABLC WAS, SO THAT ALL WAS TO BE USED. I GAVE BACK TO ABLC, 185,000. >> WITH THAT TRANSFER BACK? >> WITH THAT TRANSFER BACK, THAT WILL STILL BE SHORT. >> CORRECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> EXCUSE ME [INAUDIBLE] >> THEY WILL BE SHORT IF THE FULL AMOUNT TO BOTH PARK AND REC [BACKGROUND] TRANSFERS. THE TRANSFERS THAT WERE PUT ON THERE. NOW, THEY DO NOT NEED THOSE FULL TRANSFERS. AS WE CLOSE OUT A YEAR, YOU KNOW THE REC THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED TO KEEP 100,000, BUT THAT WILL BE PUT BACK INTO ABLC. THIS IS THE REALITY OF YOU IN YOUR SPEECH, HOW IT IS. YOU BUDGET IT TO TRANSFER THAT PARTICULAR AMOUNT TO THE REC AND TO THE PARK, [00:05:05] AND THAT WAS TRANSFERRED. BUT THEN WHAT WE DO WITH BOTH OF THOSE AT THE END OF THE YEAR REFLECTS BACK TO ABLC. >> CORRECT. >> YOU'RE BEATING ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION. I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR JC. NOT GOING TO GO THERE. >> YEAH. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO GET AN UPDATE BEFORE YOU DO THIS. [INAUDIBLE] SUPPOSED TO HELP, THERE'S SOME OF THE- >> NUMBER ONE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ABLC SIDE OF THINGS, AS FAR AS THE FUND? AS YOU KEEP GOING THROUGH, ON THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 5, YOU'LL SEE THE REC DIVISION, SO FUND 50, AS FAR AS THEIR FINANCIAL STANDING GOES. THEY ACTUALLY ENDED UP IN THE POSITIVE THIS YEAR, SO THEY MADE ABOUT $5,000 MORE THAN ANTICIPATED, AND SO THAT WAS GREAT FOR THEM TO END UP ON THAT SIDE. THAT CAME DUE TO A SUMMER CAMP WAS REALLY GREAT THIS YEAR. WE HAD VOLLEYBALL INCREASE THIS YEAR, STOCK ACTUALLY IN THOSE ONES WERE ONES I SET OUT. I MENTIONED YOU SEE THROUGHOUT PROGRAMS DOWN. I WILL SAY THAT WE ANTICIPATED RESISTANCE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PREVIOUS FINANCIAL STUFF THAT PICKUPS THAT WE HAD. THE DELAY IN GETTING THOSE APPROVED AND WILL ACTUALLY REDUCED THEY'RE STILL BUDGETS [OVERLAPPING] THEY DIDN'T BRING THE REVENUE, BUT THEY ALSO FUND. BUT OVERALL, THEY ALSO INCREASE THERE. IF YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TWO PAGES FROM THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE EXPENSE SIDE FOR THE REC DIVISION. STILL BEING DILIGENT WITH THEIR EXPENSES, THEY WERE ABLE TO MANAGE THEIR BUDGET EXTREMELY WELL WITH THAT, AND SO THEY ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO STAY UNDER BUDGET CONSIDERABLY, SO THEY'LL ACTUALLY HAVE MONEY THAT WILL TRANSFORM TO A FUND BALANCE. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE IS ONE MAIN TRANSACTION FOR THEM THAT HASN'T OCCURRED YET. OUR PAYROLL, THE WAY THAT THE END OF THE YEAR GOES, SOME OF IT GOES TO OCTOBER, SOME GOES TO SEPTEMBER, AND BECAUSE IT WAS AID IN OCTOBER, THAT MONEY HAS YET TO BE RECONCILED AS OF THESE REPORTS, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT IN THERE, SO DON'T LOOK TOO MUCH AT THAT FINAL LINE. IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE POSITIVE. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER BUDGET. >> IT WAS 83,000. >> IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT LIKE THIS, IT'S 80, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU A PROJECTION THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BETTER. IT ACTUALLY PROBABLY END UP A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THIS, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE IN THE POSITIVE, YEAH. OUR NEXT PAGE WILL GO INTO THE REVENUES FOR THE REC CENTER, SO THAT'S FUND 60. SIMILAR THING ON THAT ONE, THEY HAD A GOOD YEAR AS WELL, AND SO OVERALL, THEY BEAT THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS. YOU'LL SEE THIS ON TWO DIFFERENT PAGES. YOU'LL SEE THE TRANSFER OF THE FUND BALANCE BECAUSE THEY MAINTAIN THAT RESERVE OF 100,000. YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT THROWS THE NUMBER OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT BALANCE OUT AS WE GET THROUGH THE EXPENSE SIDE. BUT SAYING SIMILAR THING, THEY HAD A GOOD YEAR, SO I BELIEVE THEY ENDED UP 30,000 IN THE POSITIVE ABOVE THEIR REVENUE PROJECTIONS. THAT THEY HAD ANOTHER QUALITY YEAR. IF WE KEEP GOING THROUGH, YOU'LL LOOK AT THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THINGS. SIMILAR, TRYING TO STAY WITHIN BUDGETS, THE TEAM DID A GREAT JOB IN THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR, AND WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE HURDLES AND OBSTACLES WE HAVE, LIKE GUARD SHORTAGES, HAVING THE POOL CLOSED AT VARIOUS TIMES, DID HELP ON THAT PART TIME SALARY. HIRING FREEZE AND BEING SHORT POSITIONS ALSO BENEFITED FROM THAT ONE TO SEE A POSITIVE THERE. NEGATIVE, WE'VE HAD A LOT MORE EXPENSES THAN ANTICIPATED FOR THE HVAC, SO BALANCE SOME OF THAT OUT BUT OVERALL STILL END UP POSITIVE. AS YOU KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE A PRETTY HEFTY AMOUNT THAT'S GOING TO BE SAVED THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRANSFER OVER. AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF TRANSACTIONS THAT HAVEN'T HIT YET. >> WHAT IS IT? >> HVAC IS ONE OF THEM, AND THE PERSONNEL, IS GOING TO BE THAT OTHER ONE. BUT AGAIN, WE'LL GET TO THAT ONE AS WE GO THROUGH. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT INFORMATION THUS FAR? >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE RIGHT. THE REVENUE ON THE NOT EXPENSES. REVENUES FOR THE ACTIVITY CENTER. YOU SAID WE HAD A GREAT YEAR, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING SO, BUT WE BUDGETED 1.25 AND SO WE CAME IN UNDER THAT 1.196. >> KEEP IN MIND, THOUGH, THAT SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM DOWN THERE, THAT $100,000 [OVERLAPPING] BALANCE IS THAT PORTION. WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY TAP INTO THAT. [00:10:02] THAT IS JUST TO SHOW THAT IT WOULD BE TRANSFERRED IN THE EVENT THAT WE EXPENSED IT. BUT IF YOU LOOKED ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, WE DIDN'T EXPENSE FROM THAT. >> YEAH. I SAW THAT. IT WAS GOING TO LEAD ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION HERE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE [INAUDIBLE] AND SAY, SO WE SAID WE WERE IN JUST 100,000 IN THAT FUND BALANCE THERE. >> YEAH. >> BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TRANSFER FROM THE FUND BALANCE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT HAS 200,000? >> TECHNICALLY, IN A WAY, BUT THE END OF EVERY YEAR, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS BRING METRIC DOWN TO ZERO. YES. SUSIE WAS TALKING ABOUT, ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED HER TO GO THROUGH WITH THE TRANSFER WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE REC DIVISION. REC DIVISION AND REC CENTER ARE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN $100,000 FROM ENERGY. THE REC DIVISION ISN'T ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT THRESHOLD, SO THE MONEY THAT THEY WOULD BE RECEIVING FOR THIS YEAR'S OVERAGE WOULD GO INTO THEIR FUND BALANCE, BUT IF WE DIDN'T DO THE TRANSFER, IT WOULDN'T DO THAT. WHEREAS THE REC CENTER IS IN A DIFFERENT VOTE, AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT. IDEALLY, WHAT IT SHOULD HAPPEN IS ONCE WE CLOSE UP THE FISCAL YEAR, WE BALANCE [INAUDIBLE] OR THAT ACCOUNT. THAT'S JUST HASN'T BEEN HAPPENING. >> THANK YOU. >> FINANCIAL THINGS IN THE PAST DIDN'T GO THROUGH THAT. AS SUSIE'S PASSING THIS OUT, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE. THIS IS A BIGGER PICTURE AS FAR AS THE FUND BALANCE WRITE DOWN GOES. SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REC CENTER. THE REC CENTER RIGHT NOW AT THE BEGINNING OF FY '24, '25, SO ROUGHLY A FULL YEAR BILL. THEIR BEGINNING BALANCE AND THEIR FUND BALANCE WAS $619,000. THAT'S JUST A TAD BIT OVER WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. KEEP IN MIND THAT PART OF THAT IS FOR THE TPW GRANT, SO WHEN WE CAME TO ABLC, AND WE'RE GOING OUT WITH THE TPW GRANT FOR THE REC CENTER, WE HAD ABOUT $374,000 IN THERE. WE ASKED THE BOARD IF WE COULD USE THAT EXTRA 274 ABOVE OUR FUND BALANCE TO BE ABLE TO PUT INTO THAT. SOME OF THOSE TRANSFERS DIDN'T HAPPEN. SUSIE AND I ARE GOING TO WORK ON ACTUALLY REMOVING THOSE AND PUTTING THOSE INTO A SEPARATE FUND THAT IS A DEDICATED FUND, SO IT SHOWS IT'S FOR THE GRANT THAT IT REMOVES THAT OUT, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THAT ACTUALLY BALANCE IT DOWN TO ZERO OR DOWN TO 100,000, SO IT STAYS THAT WAY. ANYTHING OVER $100,000 WILL GO BACK TO ABLC'S FUND BALANCE, EXCEPT FOR ANYTHING THAT'S DEDICATED FUNDS. EXAMPLE, I GET IN THERE AS WELL IS AT THE TOP, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ABLC'S FUND BALANCE, IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE RIGHTS. THEY DEDICATED $150,000 TOWARDS THE GRANTS AS WELL, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL AND REMOVE THAT. THE CHART YOU'LL SEE THAT I GAVE YOU SHOWS THE STARTING BALANCE FOR FY '24, '25. WHAT WE ANTICIPATED PROJECTED AS FAR AS THE ENDING BALANCE, WHETHER OVER OR UNDER FOR THE END OF FY '25 TO ROLL INTO THE '26. WITH ABLC, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT, WE'RE ABOUT $117,000 SHORT IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PULL FROM BALANCE. GIVING THEM A BALANCE ABOUT 423,000 REC DIVISION, AS WE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT 50,000, THEY SHOULD SEE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT DEPENDING ON FINAL TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED AS SUCH AS PAYROLL. THEIR FUND BALANCE THEY WOULD MAINTAIN ABOUT A FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT $86,000. WHERE THEIR STARTING BALANCE WOULD BE THAT $86,000. REC CENTER, THEY SHOULD SEE ABOUT A $200,000 POSITIVE AND SO THAT WOULD DUMP INTO THEIR FUND BALANCE. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ROLL OVER THOUGH IS THAT $443,000 TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OUT THE 274,000 THAT IS DEDICATED FOR THE TPW GRANT AND A $100,000 THAT IS DEDICATED TO THEIR FUND BALANCE. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED OVER ROUGHLY TO THE ABLC FUND BALANCE IS ABOUT $443,000 FROM ARC. IN TOTAL, THAT SHOULD LEAVE ABOUT 866,000 GIVE OR TAKE FOR THE ABLC FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR. ONCE WE CLOSED THE BOOKS, LAST YEAR, GET ALL THAT STUFF DONE, WE DID IT ACTUALLY SITUATED WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST OVER $800,000. >> EXCUSE ME. IS REQUIREMENTS ON THIS MONEY THAT WE SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF? YOU DON'T WANT TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN BIT OF FUND BALANCE OR? >> THAT IS THE 25%. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD THAT ARE NEW, BUT YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN 25% FUND BALANCE? >> YES >> THIS BOARD NEEDS TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT? >> YES. ABLC DOES GENERALITIES HAS TO HAVE A 25% OF BALANCE. >> THIS IS THAT 25%? [00:15:02] >> YES. >> A LITTLE OVER? YEAH. OUR REVENUE THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROJECTING IS ABOUT 2.4, SO 600,000 IS ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE AT. WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LEGAL ROW THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON FINANCIALS. >> WHAT IS THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND? >> THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND IS FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD APPLY THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEET FINANCIALLY WHAT THE NEED IS FOR PROGRAM OR A MEMBERSHIP, AND SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR A SCHOLARSHIP THAT WOULD SUBSIDIZE THE COST OF THEIR PROGRAM OR MEMBERSHIP. WE HAVE IT DEDICATED FOR THE REC CENTER SIDE AND THE PROGRAM SIDE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM 1. WE GO AHEAD AND GO TO TWO? ITEM 2, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES AND [2. Discussion and possible action on potential funding sources and project priorities for FY25–26 Capital Improvement Program projects.] PROJECT PRIORITIES FOR FISCAL YEAR 25-26, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS. >> THANK YOU, JOHN. THIS ONE HELPS US IN THE BUDGET. AS YOU RECALL FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, THERE WAS THREE VERY SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT THE BOARD WAS KEYING IN ON. ONE OF THEM BEING BASE PARK TO SIX FIELDS, ANOTHER ONE BEING ARK PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS AND THE THIRD ONE BEING GPAC SOCCER COMPLEX. CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE. WANTED TO LOOK AT FINANCIALS AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FIRST. CONTINUE TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE COMPANY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH FLACK BOTON, HAVE NOT RECEIVED INFORMATION BACK. I'VE REACHED OUT TO FOUR VENDORS FOR CONCRETE WORK, TO DO THAT IN HOUSE. HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE RENDERINGS BACK FROM THIS COMPANY TO DO THE FENCE YET. BUT CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT. YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET, THOUGH, THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR REDUCED COSTS TO DO JUST THE FIELDWORK. IF WE WERE TO DO THE FENCE CONCRETE, AND THEY WOULD DO THE FIELD WORK. THEIR ESTIMATED COST FOR THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT $291,000. NO ONE'S TPD, BUT JUST GIVES YOU A BALLPARK ESTIMATE. YOU WILL NOTICE IN THEIR PACKET, THEIR ORIGINAL AT WAS $473,000. WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY GET LOWER THAN THAT TO DO IT IN HOUSE. BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT LEAST A $300,000 IF WE WERE TO CONTRACT WITH THIS COMPANY TO OFFER THAT. IF YOU RECALL, THERE WAS A SECOND COMPANY, WE WENT ON TO AND THEIR BALLPARK CODES FOR WHAT IT WOULD COST TO PUT THE STEEL IN WAS EVEN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE GETTING FROM PARAGON. YOU'LL ALSO SEE IN THEIR SAMPLE AS FAR AS THE PROJECT GOES, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. ABOUT A TIMELINE. I ASKED THEM TOGETHER WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, ESPECIALLY WITH US DOING SOME OF THE WORK AND THEM DOING THE WORK. THEY PUT A SAMPLE OF THE CONSTRUCTION IN. IT DOES ELONGATE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH MULTIPLE VENDORS ON THIS VERSUS IF IT WAS JUST THEM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. BUT BEING THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER FINANCIALS IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT AGSA, THEY WOULD DO THE FIELD CUT IN FIELD TO HELP REDUCE SOME OF THOSE COSTS, SO THAT WOULD BE A SAVINGS RIGHT OFF THE TOP. IF THEY WERE DO THAT MOBILIZATION OF PARAGON THEY WOULD COME IN WEEK TWO, AND THREE. YOU WOULD SEE THEM START TO DO THEIR FIELD WORK ABOUT FOUR OR WEEK THREE, THEY WOULD START INTO. WE WOULD START TO DO OUR CONCRETE AND OUR FENCING WORK. THAT WOULD BE ABOUT WEEK FIVE, SIX, AND THEN WE WOULD DOING SIDE INSTALLATION, PROBABLY ABOUT SIX, SEVEN. IT'S REALLY ABOUT A TWO MONTH PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THIS IS ANTICIPATING IF WE WERE TO START THIS IN JANUARY. NOW, THIS COULD BE LIKELY GIVEN THAT IT IS THE OFFSEASON, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE FUNDING SOURCE, WE'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT. I WANTED TO OPEN THAT ONE UP FIRST FOR COMMENTS AND CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE START TO TALK ABOUT SOME.IF YOU HAVE CONTINUE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT. >> I KNOW LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND TRYING TO HAVE MUCH TO BE DONE BY LOCAL COMPANIES TO SAVE MONEY RESOURCES. I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED ABOUT THE ONE TIME WHEN WE DID THE DIRT ALL FOR THE BGP. I WAS THINKING THAT WAS PRETTY COOL BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO USE SOMEONE LOCAL, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD, A LITTLE NEGATIVE WITH THAT, BUT TURNED OUT TO BE A PRETTY GOOD CALL. BUT THE ONLY THING I KNOW THAT'S LISTED DOWN AT FIRST, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE. NO, I GUESS WE HAD LIKE A NUMBER OF [00:20:02] THINGS BEYOND JUST THOSE THREE THAT WE HAVE LISTED NOW. I THINK WE PRIORITIZE THOSE THREE BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT. SAYING THAT WE HAVE BASE PART WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SIX SOFTBALL FIELD, IS THAT TAKEN THE PRECEDENT OVER THE OTHER TWO OR WAS JUST LISTED? >> IT'S JUST LISTED THAT WAY. IT WAS MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT THAT COULD BE A PRIORITY THAT SIX FIELD COULD TAKE PRECEDENT OVER. A LOT OF IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO FUNDING. IS DETERMINING WHAT IS THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK, WHAT MIGHT HAVE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS THAT BATES COULD BE POTENTIALLY THAT ONE, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN NARROWED IN TO SAY WE'RE EXACTLY THERE. WE DIDN'T HAVE MORE LINE NUMBERS FOR FREEDOM PARK YET. THEN THE BOARD WANTED US TO REACH OUT TO SEE ABOUT FINANCING FOR BGP. WE'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT. >> I THINK JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS. I THINK AS LONG AS WE HAVE LIKE A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GENERATE NICE REVENUE FROM HAVING THAT SIX FIELD BECAUSE OF THE TRENDS AND SUCH. IT MAY BE WORTH THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, BUT STILL, I THINK WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, BUT JUST TRYING TO LIKE SOME OF THE LOCAL COMPANIES AND JUST JUST GOING THROUGH GETTING DIFFERENT BIDS AND TRYING TO GET THE PRICE DOWN. I THINK IT'S. [INAUDIBLE] >> HOW MUCH IS AGSA CONTRIBUTING? >> JUST FOR WORK DISPLAY. THEY ARE JUST RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THEY HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT FINANCIALS. BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER ON SOME OF THESE BALLPARKS, THAT WE COULD GO BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, TO PUT THAT MUCH MONEY IN IT MIGHT BE THROUGH PUSH. >> IS THERE ANY WAY THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE THAT WE CAN PUT SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT JUST BASED ON THE TIME THEY'RE TO PUT? >>WE DEFINITELY CAN. HONESTY YOU DIDN'T BREAK IT DOWN. I CAN ASK ME, OUR VENDOR WHAT THEIR COST WOULD BE THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THE N FIELD WORK BECAUSE THERE'S MOSTLY WAS GOING TO BE THE TIME AND LABOR THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH CUTTING THE FIELD. WE COULD GET IN AM THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. >> I SEE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE SOCCER COMPLEX AND THE SOFTBALL, BUT I SEE SOME DISPROPORTION OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING ONE TO DO VERSUS THE OTHER. WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT DIRT WHEN WE GET OVER TO BGP. A LOT OF IT HAS GONE INTO THE DITCH AND HAS GONE FOREVER. IT'S JUST SITTING THERE JUST WASTING AWAY. IT'S GOT GRASS GROWING OVER IT. I THINK THERE'S TREES GROWING ON IT NOW. IT'S NEEDS ATTENTION. THAT'S AN INVESTMENT THE CITY AND AOC MADE FOR THAT DIRT THAT I THINK IS NOT FAIR TO THE TAXPAYER THAT WE'RE WASTING MONEY. I WANT TO SEE US GET THOSE FIELDS FIXED. SOCCER COMPLEX IS OFFERED THE SAME AS SOFTBALL TO UTILIZE THEIR EQUIPMENT TO GO DO IT, AND WE WON'T LET THEM DO IT. WE WANT ENGINEER TO IT OUT AND DONE THAT WAY. WE'RE ALLOWING SOFTBALL TO PUT IN LABOR SET A SIX FEEL. BOTH ARE BRINGING IN REVENUE. THE SALTING COMPLEX JUST ABOUT AWARDED THE REGIONAL. >> DISTRICT TOURNAMENT? >> DISTRICT TOURNAMENT. >> DECEMBER. >> DECEMBER. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING PEOPLE HERE. I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY EQUAL IN OUR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS. I THINK, ALL THREE OF THEM ARE. SAFETY FOR THAT PLAYGROUND IS IMPORTANT IN FREEDOM. >> ARE WE PICKING EITHER OR ARE WE TO MAKE. >> I NEED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION? >> NO. AHEAD. >> HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO PAY? >> YES. >> BECAUSE HERE MY POT POST GENERALLY, I DID AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT JOHN SAYS. MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S TIMELINES THAT ARE PLAYING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HAVOC, I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ORGANIZATIONAL. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SOFTBALL IS I THOUGHT THEY WERE AWARDED OR POTENTIALLY AWARDED A NATIONAL TOURNAMENT THIS SUMMER. I AGREE WITH JOHN THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE SOCCER COMPLEX TAKEN CARE OF. BUT I THINK IF WE EVEN PREDATE THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT I DON'T LIKE THE WORD EQUITY, BUT BRINGING UP SOME EQUALITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE GIRLS ON THE SOFTBALL SIDE WHO HAVEN'T HAD A LOT RECENTLY GOT AFTER BASEBALL HAD COMMITTED SO MUCH MONEY TO THE BASEBALL COMPLEX. ANYWAY. BUT SO THERE WAS [00:25:01] THE ONE HURDLE ON THE TIMELINE FOR THE GIRLS OR FOR THE NATIONAL TOURNAMENT. THE SOCCER LEAGUE HAS A SPRING LEAGUE, TOO. YOU CAN'T TAKE UP ALL THE FIELDS AT ONE TIME TO RUN THE DRAINAGE. YOU COULD MAYBE DO HALF MAYBE A THIRD, THIRD TO A HALF AT A TIME AND ROTATE SEASONS OR GET SOME, MAYBE AT THE END OF THE SOCCER SEASON THROUGH THE SUMMERTIME. MAYBE I DON'T KNOW. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S AN ORGANIZATIONAL THING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT AFFECTS AND THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND COMPLETE IT IN A FUTURE BUDGET CYCLE OR BUDGET CYCLES. >> ABSOLUTELY. I CAN TELL YOU YOU'LL SEE THE FACT AS WELL. THAT THE PHASE APPROACH WAS HOW ENGINEERING WROTE IT UP AFTER TALKING WITH THE SOCCER CLUB BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO. IT WOULDN'T BE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO LOSE THAT MANY FIELDS FOR A SEASON. GIVEN THE CURRENT PRICE TAG THAT'S SLATED WITH THAT ONE, AT $1.3 MILLION, I CAN TELL YOU WITH CONFIDENCE THAT THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THAT. THAT IS A WHOLE SEPARATE PIECE. NOW, IF YOU WERE TAKING A PHASES AND IT WAS MORE CLOSER TO $300,000, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO CONSIDER BUT IT'S TRUE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT CAN GO AROUND, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC ON WHAT THAT APPROACH IS AND TRYING TO FIND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. JOHN, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR APPROACH. THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS WHAT WORK CAN BE DONE IN THE MEANTIME, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, ALTHOUGH ENGINEERING WAS A GREAT APPROACH, WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT FROM THAT IS WE'RE BASICALLY GETTING PRICED OUT AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE DIRT SITTING THERE AND THE COST THAT WE PUT INTO ENGINEERING ARE TWO THINGS THAT MADE US SIT ON THE SHELF FOR FORESEEABLE FUTURE BECAUSE AGAIN, $1.3 MILLION IS WANT TO COME UP WITH. >> ALSO, THE FIRST PHASE THAT THEY HAD SLATED WAS NOT THE PROBLEM AREA, FOR THE MOST PART. PROBLEM AREA WAS CLOSEST TO THE DITCHES, FIELDS ONE, TWO, THREE, IN THOSE AREAS. FIELD 11 AND TEN ARE PRETTY HIGH AND DRY OUT THERE, THE BIG FIELDS. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE ONE FIELD OR TWO FIELDS CUTTING IN THE DRAINAGE AROUND THOSE AREAS. MUCH MORE SCALED BACK VERSION, AND WE PLAYED OUT IN THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING. >> WITH THAT ONE, I CAN TELL YOU, PART OF THE REASON WE WENT THIS DIRECTION WAS BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE AND ACCESS BECAUSE IF WE STARTED CLOSER TO, DEPENDING ON WHEN WE WENT BACK, WE WOULD BE GOING OVER WHAT WE HAD JUST DONE. THE HEAVY TRUCKS THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME IN TO LAY THAT. THAT'S WHY IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY, TWO. STILL HAVE THAT ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT OPEN TO A NUMBER OF THINGS TO SEE HOW WE CAN REALLY START THIS PROCESS FOR THEM AND MAYBE EXPLORE, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITY FIELDS AND IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT SOCCER CLUB CAN WORK ON FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A NEED, THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO START THAT PROCESS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO WORK MORE ON THE DRAINAGE AND THE ONES THAT REALLY HAVE A LOW PROFILE THAT NEED THE WORK. >> IMMEDIATELY, NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. >> WHAT IS NOT AN ENGINEER QUESTION? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE SOME MINDS ON HERE CAN EXPLAIN THINGS. WHAT IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE DIRT THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND TO START SPREAD IT IN LOW SPOTS. DO WE LOSE THAT IF SOMEHOW, LIKE, COME BACK AND CONSTRUCT THAT? WILL IT STILL BE THERE? I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. >> I MEAN, IT SHOULDN'T. DEPENDING ON WHAT DROP YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IF YOU GOT A DROP THE FIELD, YOU PUT DIRT IN THERE JUST BECAUSE YOU FILL IT IN AND. >> I AGREE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IF NOTHING SEEDS, I GUESS IN THEORY, IT JUST STRAINS TO YOUR BUT YOU WOULD THEN JUST SCOOP IT OUT NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU WOULD OUT OF THE DITCHES THAT IT'S CURRENTLY SITTING IN. MY POINT IS IF WE MOVE SOME DIRT, STILL THERE, AND IF YOU HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT THAT DIRT OR RELAY IT, YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY DO THAT ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO RESHAPE IT, I GUESS TO. >> WELL, I MEAN, CREATE THE JOHN'S POINT AS WELL. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT DIRT IS LEFT. EVEN WHEN WE START THIS PROJECT, YOU COULD FIND THAT WHEN WE START TO FILL IT IN, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NERVES TO DO THE ENTIRE PROJECT. >> I DON'T THINK WE WILL. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF ALLOWED THE SOCCER TEAM ORGANIZATION. [00:30:06] TO IF THEY WANT TO GET THEIR OWN FRONT LOADER OR BULLDOZER OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, AND START HAULING SOME OF THAT TO SOME OF THE LOW SPOTS AND JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST PATCHWORKING IT FOR NOW, ISN'T IT BETTER SITTING ON THE FIELD THAN IT IS SITTING OVER THERE ON THE LOT THAT IT'S CURRENTLY UNUSED? NOW IT'S BEING MIXED IN, AND I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. MY SUSPICION WOULD BE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT ANYWAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST ON THAT SIDE EVENTUALLY. BUT AT LEAST IT'S GETTING ONTO THE FIELD. EVEN IF WE HAVE TO RE ENGINEER THE SLOPES OR WHATEVER, AT A LATER DATE, THE DIRT IS STILL THERE. IT'S ALREADY ON THE FIELD. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ONLY EVAPORATING. >> IS THAT IF YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU MAKE IT BECOME LIKE A TEMPORARY FIX, AND THEN IT MAY WE LOOK UP AND WE MAY NEVER GET BACK TO MOVING THAT DIRT AGAIN. BUT AS LONG AS THEY'RE GOING TO PAY TO MOVE THE DIRT, AND THEY'LL DO THAT, LIKE TRAVIS SAID, IT'S LIKE, WHY NOT USE IT. >> THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT NOW. >> IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT IN WHICH IT'S THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, I WOULD RATHER SEE HIM SPEND THE NEXT EVEN IF IT'S ONLY TWO YEARS, I DON'T KNOW. HAVING IT IN PLACE. >> MAYBE THE COSTLESS BOY, WE JUST LET US SIT LIKE IT IS NOW. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THEN LATER ON WE HAVE TO PAY SOMEONE ESTIMATE THE DIRT. IF WE HAVE THE LABOR NOW, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND THE SOCCER GUYS GOING TO DO IT? WHY NOT? BUT THE THING IS, I KNOW SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL MORE POPULAR THAN SOCCER IN THIS AREA. MAYBE SOMETIMES SOCCER GET PUT ON THE BACK BURN A LITTLE BIT. >> BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE US THE US. >> IT DEPENDS. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THESE REGION CHAMPION PROJECT SOCCER, BUT JUST LIKE THEY HAVE TO BE DONE IN TANDEM BECAUSE THEY AS THE RESOURCES. IF IT WERE A PERFECT WORLD, WE HAVE ALL THESE RESOURCES. WE JUST AT THE SAME TIME. A SENSE IT'S NOT THEN WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT LIKE I SAID, WITH THE SOFT IT IS A TOUGH SITUATION TO HAVE PAY TO MOVE THE DIRT, AND NOW THE DIRT SITTING THERE WITH NOT USING IT. I AGREE WITH THAT. I NEED TO MORE THAN HALF. I WOULD SAY [OVERLAPPING]. >> AS THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW. >> WELL, I THINK TWO THINGS: IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE WAY. ONE OF THEM IS THE TOTAL. GET THEM STILL WATER APPROPRIATELY IN LESS. THE SECOND THING IS MAYBE WE LOOK AT MORE OF THAT APPROACH, HOW CAN WE LOOK MORE FOCUS ON THE DRAINAGE AND HELPING TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK ON THE FIELD WORK, MAYBE GET AND START THAT PROCESS, AND HOW CAN WE START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE MINORITY GET ANOTHER ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BECAUSE, ALSO WE WANT TO. IF WE DON'T, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FIELDS IS A POINT FOR THEM. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT APPROACH THEY WANT TO TAKE AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS. >> BUT I THINK JOHN'S JUST ASKING IF SOCCER IS WILLING, CAN THEY DO IT, SINCE WE LIKE TO GIVE THE PASS THE GREEN LIGHT TO SOFTBALL AND TO THE BASEBALL GROUP A, AS LONG AS WE'RE OKAY WITH LETTING SOCCER A, ALL TAKE THE INITIATIVE, GET STARTED, THEY MIGHT MOVE THINGS ALONG A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, PERHAPS. >> YES, I KNOW. >> YOU KNOW? >> THAT HAPPENS A LOT IN OTHER CITIES, TOO. USE AS ASSOCIATIONS TO HELP ASSOCIATIONS OF THINGS. START [INAUDIBLE] >> IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE LANGTON SOCCER CLUB AND LET THEM KNOW, LIKE, HEY, IF YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE ALL CAN GO AHEAD, AND. >> I MEAN, I'LL SEW THIS. ESPECIALLY FOR A TEMPORARY, LIKE I CAN SAY TEMPORARY, IT COULD BE 3 YEARS. IT COULD NOT BE JUST LIKE 6 MONTHS, BUT LIKE 3 YEARS. I CERTAINLY THINK THEY WOULD KNOW, LIKE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PRIORITY AREAS. THESE ARE WE KNOW WHERE THE LOW SPOTS WE KNOW. WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE MISSING. >> THEY KNOW SOME [INAUDIBLE]. THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT FOR A WHILE. I MEAN, THE EXAMPLE YOU CAN SAY IS, I MEAN, A SMALL PROJECT, BUT THEY ARE PUTTING NETTING BEHIND A COUPLE OF FIELDS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'VE ARRANGED THE GOALS NOW. THAT'S A JOINT PROJECT BETWEEN US AND THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE LOSING THE BALLS ON THE BRUSH. WE'RE LIKE, YES. HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? LET'S DO THIS. >> WE LOST MONEY. >> I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA, SORRY. >> WE'RE OUT OF THERE, I KNOW. >> KIDS GO INTO THE BRUSH TO AT SOME POINT, TELL ME WHAT I THINK ABOUT IT. >> YES, I CAN DEFINITELY GET WITH THEM AND SEE START TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THAT PROJECT TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THEN WE CAN REGROUP TO ADDRESS SOME MORE DRAINAGE. I CAN ALSO GET WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THEY'RE GETTING ANOTHER PRIORITY FOCUS ON SOME OTHER PROJECTS. BUT [OVERLAPPING] THEY'RE GETTING GREAT EVEN IN THE MEANTIME, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE CULVERTS AND DITCHES. >> SURE. >> THAT MIGHT HELP US. >> A LOT OF THE STUFF ON THE SOCCER FIELDS, [00:35:05] I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY BETWEEN THE ASSOCIATION AND US, WE CAN JUST USE COMMON SENSE TO FUND THAT AND USE RESOURCES. >> YEAH. >> I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY BE PRETTY CLOSE TO DOING THE 6 FIELD OF PART WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE LEFT OVER, AND MAYBE DO THIS A LITTLE BIT INTERNALLY AS WELL, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, CAN WAIT THE [INAUDIBLE] ANSWER ON HOW SHE'S FUNDING THE PLAYGROUND, WHICH. >> JASON, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE STUDY. THE ENGINEERING STUDY HAD TO BE DONE, OR WE WANTED IT DONE, OR THE ENGINEERING TURN ON THAT OR THAT? DID IT TAKE LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO? >> THE ENGINEERING PORTION IS DONE. WE JUST THINK THEY'RE READY TO MOVE TO BIDDING. WE JUST WOULD FAIL TO BID. IF WE PUT IT OUT TO BID RIGHT NOW, AND THEY COME BACK WHEN THEY SAID, OH, IT'S $1 MILLION, WOULD BE FANTASTIC. >> YEAH. >> WE JUST CALL HALF $1 MILLION. TO WRAP THAT UP. THE CONVERSATION AHEAD WITH JOE MORROW IS THAT THE ABLC'S FUND BALANCE IS NOT NECESSARILY IN PLACE THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THEM TO GO OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND OR CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION IN THE COMING YEAR. HE RECOMMENDS THAT WE LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT BACK UP AND BUDGET THIS NEXT YEAR TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER FOR FUTURE YEARS, AND COUPLED WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE WITH ONES THAT THE CITY MAY GO FOR AND TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE LEVERAGE THAT GOES WITH THAT ONE. BUT HE ESTIMATED THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AT. WE MIGHT SEE A CL IF WE WITH THIS YEAR $1 MILLION, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE REALLY STRETCHING YOURSELF FOR ONE PROJECT, AND THEN YOU'RE CONTINUING TO INVEST IN THAT ONE. HE WAS NOT ADVISING TO MOVE THAT PROCESS. >> CAN WE RE-RUN TO FLASH BACK WHEN WE DECIDED TO GET THAT DIRT MOVED OVER TO THE SOCCER FIELDS? WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN NEXT? WHAT WAS OUR PLAN? >> PUT IT ON THE FIELD RIGHT AWAY. >> I WILL SAY THIS. I'M JUST TRYING TO USE MY BEST MEMORY. I AGREE WITH PUTTING IT ON THE FIELD. I THINK THERE WAS SOME. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME MIND ABOUT GETTING IT ON THE FIELDS VERSUS MORE ENGINEERING AND THEN GETTING IT ON THE FIELD. >> THOSE ARE THE DRAINAGE. >>CORRECT. WHAT JASON JUST TALKED ABOUT, TALKING TO JOE AND NOT THINKING THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO GO OUT FOR, AND BE IN A POSITION TO, LIKE YOU SAID, LEVERAGE SOME DEBT TO GO UP FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS. THEN YEAH, I'M GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT. I THINK WE MAY NEED TO JUST TRY TO GET AS MUCH DIRT AS WE CAN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT [OVERLAPPING] WASHES AWAY. ALL WASHES AWAY, AND THE PROJECT ITSELF IS HUGE. I MEAN, IT WOULD TAKE TO DO IT RIGHT, TO DO THE ENGINEERING TO MAKE A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT, WHICH I THINK IT'S STILL WORTH OUR EVENTUALLY DOING, MAKING THAT 30-50 YEAR COMMITMENT WHEN YOU GO BACK AND REWORK THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT COULD BE A REALLY GOOD USE FOR LONG-TERM PURPOSES. >> THAT WAS THE BIG MAIN ARGUMENT WAS THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DRAINED. >> STILL HADN'T CHANGED, BUT NOW AT LEAST YOU COULD MAYBE ELEVATE SOME OF THE LOW-LEVEL SPOTS. >> [INAUDIBLE] TO HELP OUT. AT LEAST GO WHERE YOU FEEL. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. I MEAN, AT LEAST WE CAN [OVERLAPPING] UNTIL MARCH, MONEY COMES IN. GO AHEAD, [INAUDIBLE] THERE. >> AGREE. DOCTOR JASON. >> WE REALLY HAVE FINISHED, [LAUGHTER]. >> BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE. >> A SIDE CONVERSATION. >> WE'RE GETTING OFF THE TIME. >> YES, SIR, WE CAN DEFINITELY GO BACK. I'LL WORK WITH THE SOCCER CLUB AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET ROLE ON THAT, AND WE CAN REGROUP AND FUND TO SEE WHAT WE CAN ADDRESS FOR DRAINAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING CURRENTLY FOR THIS PROJECT. 1.3 IS NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE ON ONE OR THE OTHER IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ENGINEERING COMPONENT OF IT. DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT ONE. THE OTHER TWO, WE TALKED ABOUT SOFTBALL A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'LL BRING UP THE PLAYGROUNDS. I'M GOING TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS UP HERE BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T LOOK THE GREATEST WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCREENS. AS WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT, THE PLAYGROUND AT FREEDOM PARK NEEDS SOME TLC, [00:40:04] SOME UPGRADING ON THAT. IT IS CURRENTLY 16 YEARS OLD. IT IS ONE YEAR OVER THE 15 YEARS EXPECTED LIFE EXPECTANCY ON THAT PLAYGROUND. WE GOT WITH CUNNINGHAM RECREATION. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A GRANT AVAILABLE THAT IS A MATCHING GRANT. IT WOULD SAVE SOME MONEY ON THE PLAYGROUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET HERE AN OUTLINE OF THAT, AND UNFORTUNATELY, GET SO PRETTY THE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I'M GOING TO START WITH THIS ONE. I'LL SCROLL BACK OUT. THIS IS THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT OF THE SIDE OF THE MARKET. FREEDOM MARKET. YOU'LL SEE A WHOLE LOT OF LINES ON HERE, BUT AS YOU LOOK THROUGH. >> WELL, I CAN SEE IT ON OURS. >> THAT'S YOUR CANOPY FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS, AND THEN THE OUTLINES IN THE DESIGN WITHIN THAT, THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PUT INTO PLACE. YOU'LL SEE THE TWO DIFFERENT ONES CURRENTLY, THE TAN BOX THAT'S UP IN THE LEFT CORNER THERE. THAT IS A SWING SET. YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THAT WE ARE REMOVING THAT, AND WE'RE PLANNING TO PUT ALL ENCOMPASSING INTO THE ONE COMPONENT TOGETHER. THEY WON'T BE COVERED, BUT THEY WOULD BE ALL INCLUDED IN ONE, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, IT CURRENTLY HAS A GUARD THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE ONE TO GO INTO OTHERS, SO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE THE MOST ACCESSIBILITY SENSE. BUT JUST GETS YOU A FOOTPRINT OF WHAT THE CURRENT ONE LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT SHAPE STRUCTURE WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. AS WE GO THROUGH, I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THOSE. THEN I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TRANSITION OVER TO ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE I ASKED THEM TO GET A SECOND DER C TO GIVE YOU TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO GO WITH. YOU'LL SEE THE MAIN COMPONENT HERE. THIS IS THE 5-12 PLAYGROUNDS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS JOHN BROUGHT UP TO ME RECENTLY WAS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS AWARE THAT THIS ONE IS A LOT SHORTER THAN OUR OTHER ONE. PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE PLAYGROUND HAS TO MAINTAIN A 7-FOOT DISTANCE PER STANDARD. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF HOW LOW OUR SHADE STRUCTURE IS; WE CAN ONLY GO SO HIGH ON THAT ONE. BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU ANOTHER ONE THAT HOPEFULLY MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR YOU. JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WILL SEEM A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT THE COMPONENTS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. MAYBE MY TOLL BUDGET, BUT I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE MAY LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THIS IS FIVE TO 12. OVER HERE IS GOING TO BE YOUR TWO-TO-FIVE PLAYGROUND. IN THE BACK HERE, YOU'LL SEE YOUR SET OF SWINGS. I SCROLL THROUGH SOME OF THOSE. THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 5-12. THERE ARE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF ENTRY POINTS FOR THIS ONE. YOU'LL HAVE A PLATFORM THAT YOU'LL GET ON OVER HERE. YOU HAVE IF I GO BACK TO THIS ONE. THIS ENTRY RIGHT HERE IS A NARROW BRIDGE WALK-UP, AND SO THIS IS A CLIMBING FEATURE THAT YOU GET ON TO DO A TRANSITION TO GO ACROSS. YOU HAVE A SIMILAR FEEL ON THIS ONE RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE SLIDE. THIS IS ANOTHER CLIMBING COMPONENT TO GET ON TO GET UP TO THE SECOND LEVEL. THIS IS A ROAD COURSE. IT GETS YOU A CLIMBING FEATURE FOR AGILITY AND TESTING STRENGTH, AND DIFFERENT MOVEMENT ON THERE. YOU'LL SEE THE FIVE TO 12 PRETTY MUCH LIKE FOR LIKE WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CURRENT PLAYGROUND FOR THE FIVE TO 12 IS THE 2-5 IS A LITTLE DECEIVING BECAUSE THERE IS A RAMP THAT GOES UP TO IT. THERE REALLY IS NOTHING IN BETWEEN ONE SECTION THAT HAS A CAR WHEEL ON IT AND WHERE THE PLAYGROUND ACTUALLY IS. THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DECEIVING ON THAT ONE, SO YOU WON'T SEE THAT HIGHLIGHT AS MUCH. A DIFFERENT VIEW FROM THE BACK SIDE OF THAT. >> SWING SEAT IS HUGE. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> THE SWING SEAT IS HUGE. IT IS A PRETTY COOL LOOK. >> THIS ONE, WE ACTUALLY ADDED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SWINGS CONSIDERING THE USE, AND THAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY ALSO SEE UP TO THE SIDE HERE. THESE ARE LIKE A MOMMY AND ME OR TWO SIBLINGS AT THE SAME TIME, SO A SHADOW ONE. THERE'S ONE PERSON ON EACH SIDE OF THAT. IT CREATES A DIFFERENT USER EXPERIENCE FROM JUST THE NORMAL SWINGS. THIS WOULD BE IF SOMEBODY NEEDS THE ACCESSIBILITY AND NEEDS TO SIT IN THERE, THEY CAN SWING TOGETHER. IT'S A DIFFERENT FEEL TO THE SWING PHASE THAT WE HAVE HERE. >> I DO THINK THAT IF YOU DO ANYTHING NEW WILL BE A POSITIVE NEW EXPERIENCE, NOT SAYING THAT KIDS GET BORED WITH THE SAME OLD THING, BUT YOU THROW SOMETHING NEW AT THEM, EVEN IF IT'S JUST CONFIGURED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE. >> I WOULD JUST FIGURE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO ALL BE TRYING TO OUTSWING AT EACH OTHER. [OVERLAPPING] [00:45:03] >> I TRUST, RIGHT, WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING NEW, IT'S GOING TO BE THAT NEW EXPERIENCE, THAT FUN THING, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ENCAPSULATING WHAT FREEDOM PARK ALREADY HAS THERE. >> SURE. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUT. >> THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE, AFTER TALKING WITH JOHN AS WELL, LIKE, COMING BACK WITH ANOTHER OPTION TOO, BECAUSE THIS GETS YOU THERE. THIS HELPS ON THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE HAVE SOME WAYS TO POTENTIALLY MANEUVER THAT, AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE, I WILL SAY. THAT PLAYGROUND CAME IN AT ABOUT $235,000. IS IT THE COST OF THAT PLAYGROUND? WE DID LOOK AT FINANCING AND FINANCING OPTIONS TO DO A 3-YEAR, A 5-YEAR, AND A 7-YEAR LOAN TO HELP SPREAD OUT THAT COST. I WILL SAY THE BENEFIT THAT'S GOING TO GO WITH THAT, AND THAT IS GOING TO LESSEN YOUR IMPACT ON YOUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, BUT SPREADS IT OUT TO MAKE IT MANAGEABLE EACH YEAR. AS I SAY THAT TOO, A BENEFIT WE HAVE COMING UP IS WE HAVE ONE OF OUR OLD CEOS ROLLING OFF IN 2026, SO THAT'LL BE THE FINAL PAYMENT IN 2026, ABOUT $142,000. IN OUR 2027 BUDGET, WE WILL BE ADDING THAT IN THERE, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE RELIEF TO HELP INCUR SOME OF THOSE COSTS. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT FINANCING. >> JASON, I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES. >> YOU SAID THAT'S LIKE 235,000, RIGHT? >> YES. >> BUT THAT'S INCLUDING THE GRANT. >> THAT INCLUDES THE GRANT. >> WITHOUT THE GRANT IS ROUGHLY 299-300. >> YES. >> BUT IT SAYS THE GRANTS ARE ONLY GOOD UNTIL LIKE NOVEMBER? >> YES. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WITH CUNNINGHAM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, THEY WOULD JUST NEED US TO BASICALLY SIGN AND AGREE THAT WE WOULD BE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON COLORS AND ALL THAT. >> WHERE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS? >> YES. >> WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO DO IS GO TO COUNSEL ON THE NOVEMBER 12TH MEETING. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, SO THEY COULD OFFICIALLY SAY THE AGREEMENTS GO FORWARD. IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE RECISION. [INAUDIBLE] >> I'M JUST CURIOUS, CHASON, AS WELL. WHAT'S THE REASON FOR SEPARATING OR FOR TRYING TO JOIN THE SWING SETS WITH THE PLAYGROUND? IS IT JUST TO, INCLUSIVITY? >> YES, PART OF THAT IS YOU HAVE NOW CREATED A BARRIER. THERE IS NO ACCESSIBLE ACCESS TO THE SWING SETS. YOU ARE GOING FROM GRASS, WHICH IS SEMI-ACCESSIBLE, AND IT HAS A BUMPER. THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THAT. IT IS JUST A BUMPER THAT. YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE ONE FULL EXPERIENCE, SO THAT IT'S NOT A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO. >> I WILL SAY THE THING THAT I DO LIKE ABOUT THE SWING SETS BEING SEPARATE FROM THE PLAYGROUND RIGHT NOW, IS IT KEEPS PEOPLE OUT WHO AREN'T ON THE SWING SETS. IT PREVENTS A LINE OF INJURY? >> YES. >> YOU EVER SWING IN THIS? >> YOU'RE THERE FOR THE SWING. >> KIDS PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND. >> CORRECT. THAT'S MY CONCERN. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING OR NOT EVEN THAT, BUT JUST KIDS RUNNING BY. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GRAB THOSE SWINGS AND, DO WHAT THEY GOT TO DO WITH THEM. THAT'S MY THING. IN OTHER WORDS, I WONDER IF IT'S WORTH EXPLORING, JUST USING THAT SAME PAD AND MAKING A BETTER TRANSITION BETWEEN THE TWO. >> WE CAN? >> JUST TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT'S STILL SEPARATE, IF YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO THE SWINGS. >> I WILL SAY THAT I USE THIS ADAGE FOR THE CENTER. KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO WANT TO DO THAT. >> THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. >> THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAYS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE SO MUCH FROM THAT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, THAT COMES WITH THAT. OUR THOUGHT PROCESS TO GO WITH IT WAS TO CREATE THAT ONE LARGE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO TO MAXIMIZE WHAT THAT FEEL WAS, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY EXPLORE IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT HAVING THEM SEPARATE. >> I DO LIKE IT THAT IT'S TOGETHER, BUT I JUST WONDER ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME OF HAVING TO CLEAR THAT OUT, MAKE A NEW PAD, SET IT UP AS OPPOSED TO USING THE SAME PAD. >> VERY LOOSE TERM I WILL SAY WITH THAT WITH MAKING THE PAD BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ENGINEER WITH FIBERS. YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE DEMOLISHING AND REMOVING THAT IN-HOUSE TO SAVE COST. ALL THIS WOULD KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DOING THIS IS LIKE A WINNER PROJECT. >> THIS COMPANY WOULD NOT BE DOING ANY OF THAT DEMOLITION? >> THEY'RE DOING THE DEMOLITION AND THE REMOVAL OF ALL THAT. THEY WOULD JUST BE DOING THE ADDITION AND THE ADD-ON TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS. >> TO SAVE ON OPERATIONAL COSTS. YOU DON'T HAVE SOME BETWEEN THE TWO. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> BETWEEN THE TWO. IT'S ALL TOGETHER. >> IT'S ALL JUST ONE LARGE SO THAT THEY HAVE IT HERE. [00:50:03] >> WHAT'S THAT SECOND PIECE? THE ONE IS 480,000. >> PUT IN PLACE ON SURFACE. >> THAT IS IF WE WERE TO ADD THE POUR IN PLACE. I WANTED TO USE THAT AS WHEN WE TALKED LAST TIME, WE HAD AN ESTIMATED COST ABOUT 650,000. THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS, WHY SO MUCH? THE PLAYGROUND TO ADD FOR PLAY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN THE MARKET FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WOULD BE THE BEST USER MONEY I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT CREATES A BETTER USER EXPERIENCE. BUT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE JUST TO DO PLAYGROUND THERE. >> I'M JUST ASKING, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS PLAYGROUND? THERE ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE BIGGER? >> YES. THAT'S THE ONE I'M TRYING TO PULL UP FOR YOU. I'M TRYING TO FIND THE BEST PICTURE. THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE. THIS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A PROFILE VIEW. THINK OF THIS CENTER SECTION, THE MAJORITY OF THAT ALL IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MASSIVE TOWER THAT'S GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS. TAKE THAT CLIMBING WEB THAT WE SHOWED BEFORE MORE SURFACE LEVEL. MAKE THAT TWO TO THREE. >> SEE A BROKEN BONE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WHO'S GOING TO GETTING UP THEY GETTING SCARED HAPPEN. THE SIZE OF THAT ONE. THE FOOT THAT'S GOING TO GO WITH THAT ONE, BUT JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT NEXT TO, WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, SO I'M TRYING TO SHOW YOU ON THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK AND THIS WILL BE THE MODEL THAT SHOWS YOU THE OVERLAY OF IT. THIS DISC GOES TO SHOW ON THE SIDE. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. >> CHANGING THAT WOULD BE SWITCHING TO A FOOTPRINT THAT'S MORE LIKE THIS. >> SOUND GOOD. >> DOWNTOWN IS THE DYNAMIC FEATURE ON THE SIDE OUT THERE. >> WE'RE GOING TO ATTRACTING PEOPLE FOR MILES. >> THAT TO ME IS MORE REALISTIC OF WHAT IS THERE NOW. IT'S A MASSIVE PLAYGROUND. >> IT IS. >> IT ATTRACTS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND SHAPE CORRECT. >> WHAT'S THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL? >> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TOO. [LAUGHTER] >> PRICE DIFFERENTIAL IS JUST UNDER 400. NOW YOU'RE NOW, KEEP IN MIND, SO I WILL SAY THE TWO MAIN THINGS TO LOOK AT HERE. IF YOU LOOK OFF IN THE DISTANCE, WE'RE GOING FROM THAT ROPE PIECE AND WE'RE MAKING THAT MASSIVE AND WE'RE MAKING A FOCAL POINT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME. THE ONE IN FRONT THAT YOU SEE HERE IS A ZIP LINE, AND SO IT'S A DUAL PURPOSE ZIP LINE. I ACTUALLY HAS ONE THAT HAS A SET IN IT SO IT CAN BE USER FRIENDLY FOR MULTIPLE AGES, AND THEN IT HAS ONE THAT'S LIKE THAT THAT YOU GO ON. IT'S A FULL ZIP LINE THAT CREATES AND EVEN CREATE EXPERIENCE. >> I'M GOING TO THROW MY SUSIE'S SHOULDER. I GOING TO ON THAT ONE. >> I LIKE THAT ONE BUT HERE'S MY ONLY LONG-TERM. THAT ZIP LINE LOOKS LIKE A BIG MAINTENANCE ISSUE, AND IF IT BREAKS DOWN, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THIS HUGE APPARATUS THAT'S UNUSABLE. >> I WILL SAY FROM THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE FOR THAT COMPONENT IS USUALLY LIKE THE SEAT OR THE ROPE, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO REPLACE THEM. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A LINE LIKE A ZIP LINE. IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY TWO CHANNELS WITH TROLLEYS ON THE INSIDE. >> EXACTLY. >> THAT'S FINE. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR LIKE A YEAR, AND THEN IT BREAKS DOWN AND YOU'RE LEFT LIKE THIS ABANDONED HAZARD ON THE SIDE THAT WE CAN'T GET. WE CAN GET THEM ON THE HOOK FOR A 20 YEAR WARRANTY PLAN. >> SIMILAR, AND SO THE PROS AND CONS. USUALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IT IS BEING USED. NO DIFFERENT THAN THE SWINGS. I WILL SAY I'LL TAKE EXPERIENCE FROM THE PLAYGROUND THAT'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HATE REPLACING THE SWINGS, BUT THE SWINGS IS ONE OF THE MOST UTILIZED THING. >> THEY'RE GOING TO GET WARNED OUT? >> METAL ON METAL IS GOING TO WEAR OUT. THAT'S ALL IS, AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE REPLACE THE SWINGS. >> IF WE GO WITH THIS OPTION, WHICH I LIKE. I WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND THINK ABOUT A LINE ITEM BUDGET KNOCK FOR PLAYGROUND MAINTENANCE BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T MIND. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE MORE THAN 20,000 ANNUALLY. I WOULD THINK. >> I WOULD SAY IT PROBABLY IT WOULDN'T BE THAT. >> WHAT'S THE WARRANTY PERIOD FOR THIS? [00:55:06] >> IF IT'S FIVE YEARS, NO THANKS. >> IF IT'S FIVE YEARS NOT PRETTY FAIR. >> YOU WILL? >> OVER THREE YEARS NORMALLY, THE MANUFACTURER WARRANTY IS LIKE A YEAR OR THREE. >> I BE SURPRISED PAST THE YEAR TO BE SHOCKED. GIVE US THREE YEARS THEY GOT DEAL. >> NO QUESTIONS. >> THIS IS STILL CUTTING AH RECREATION. THIS IS STILL. >> THIS IS SO A GRANT OPTION. THIS IS STILL GRANT. >> IT WOULD BE UNDER 400, SO THAT'S INCLUDED $65,000. >> THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED, I CAN TELL YOU THE EXACT PRICE ON THAT ONE. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 75 OR 78, AND SO THE INTERESTING THING FOR THE GRANTS IS I WILL SAY EVEN WITH ANYTHING. IT'S A SELECT PRODUCTS, AND SO IF YOU GO WITH ONE OF THEIR PRODUCTS, THAT'S LIKE THE LEXUS OF IT THAT DOES INCLUDE THE GRANTS. >> ARE THERE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER GRANT AFTER NOVEMBER BECAUSE SOMETIME WE SEE THESE DIFFERENT SALES AND DIFFERENT CARS LIKE WE GOT UNTIL NOVEMBER, EARLY NOVEMBER TO CAPITALIZE THEM IS 65,000. THEN YOU COME LIKE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, IT'S LIKE SAME ONE IS LIKE 85,000. >> USUALLY WHAT I'VE FOUND FOR THEM ONCE A YEAR, THEY'LL OFFER THIS GRANT ONCE A YEAR, AND SO WE'RE HITTING THIS CYCLE RIGHT NOW. >> AT THE VERY END? >> AT THAT END OF IT THEIR WINDOWS PRETTY SMALL LIKE THEY JUST CAME OUT RECENTLY, AND SO WHEN THEY ASKED VARIATING DISCUSSIONS. I WAS LIKE, I WILL CALL, I'M LET'S SEE WHAT CAN, SO THIS IS AN OTHER OPTION, SO 389 WOULD BE THE PRICE ON THIS ONE. >> THREE EIGHT NINE VERSUS THE 235. >> FINANCE OVER HOW MANY YEARS ONE HAS DO PAY? >> HOW MANY YEARS WOULD YOU REFER TO [INAUDIBLE]? >> FIVE YEARS. >> INSTEAD OF BEING THE 55,000 FOR THE ANNUAL PAYMENT FOR THAT WOULD JUST GO TO BE MORE LIKE I WOULD GO WITH MORE EXPENSIVE ONE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE US UP TO LIKE WHAT 70 OR SOMETHING 77? >> THAT'S NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE, REALLY. ALL THE OPTIONS YOU GIVE WITH THAT? >> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN ANGLETON IS KING IMPROVING THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT'S PROVING THE SERVICE LEVELS, AND FINANCING FOR FIVE YEARS, WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK IN THE BUDGET. >> WE HAVE CONTINGENCY. IN THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE ABOUT 295,000 IN CONTINGENCY, SO WE COULD MAKE IT WORK WITHIN THAT. I'M GOING TO KNOCK OUT WITH AS I STATED. >> WOULD THEY LOST PLAY DOWN PRINCIPLE? >> YEAH, WITHOUT PENALTY. I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU TOOK OUT INSTEAD OF PAYING IT OVER FOUR YEARS, WE WERE ABLE TO PAY IT DOWN ON THREE BECAUSE WE TOOK OUT PRINCE. >> THERE WAS NO PENALTY THAT'S IS PLAYED. >> IF THINGS CONTINUE IN THE INTEREST SURPRISE LIKE THIS A SPECIALTY THING SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE TO GIVE TO THAT POSSIBILITY. I ACTUALLY HAD THAT LOOK AT YET THOUGH BECAUSE WE SAW THIS YEAR SALES TAX WAS DOWN, AND SO YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THAT OFFERED. WE DO HAVE THAT IN OUR CONTINGENCY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT PLAYS OUT. >> IT'S INTERESTING. WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR THAT FIVE YEAR LIKE ISSUE, WHICH IS COOL. WE'RE FINANCING FOR FIVE YEARS. IT MAY HAVE A FIVE YEAR WARRANTY, SO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU BUY SOMETHING NEW, AS SOON AS YOU PAY IT OFF LIKE IT BREAKS. >> THAT'S ALWAYS THE CASE. >> LIKE SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED I THINK SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED JOHN MAYBE ABOUT IN WRITING, LIKE YOU MENTIONED LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE SOME WARRANTY AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AND BEYOND. WE'D BE GREAT TO ACTUALLY OWN SOMETHING WITHOUT INSTEAD OF THE WARRANTY ON. >> I CAN DEFINITELY DOUBLE CHECK. I WANT TO SAY JOHN WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE WITH TYPICALLY THEY'RE MORE CLOSER TO LIKE A YEAR. SOME OF THEM YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT THE MAJORITY OF THEIR PRODUCTS, LIKE THERE'S NOT SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FANCY WORK TO IT. WHEN THEY MAKE IT, LIKE FOR THEM, THEY GUARANTEE IT, SO IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING, [01:00:02] IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT BREAK TO PERTAIN. >> MOST GOOD PRODUCTS GO TO LAST. >> YOU COULD PROBABLY ASK LOUIS OR JOHN, BUT WE GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS FOR OUR TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE RIGHT THERE. THEN THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE ITSELF IS USUALLY SEEN IS IMPRESSIVE, SO YOU GET PEOPLE COMING IN FROM BEL AIR AND SUGAR LAND, ARE LIKE THIS IS A GREAT SETUP. >> HOW PEOPLE FROM CONROY HAVE THEY ARE SURPRISED AT HOW NICE IT IS DOWN HERE COMPARED TO WHAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE, AND IT'S NOT AT 100% RIGHT NOW. I THINK THIS IS RIGHT WHAT JOHN IS SAYING, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT THERE? AS OPPOSED TO A LITTLE BIT SMALLER CONSERVATIVE. >> I'LL SAY THAT SUSIE DIDN'T SEE THIS YET, SO UNTIL THE FIRST PRICE, AND THEN I SHOWED HER THE PICTURE, AND SHE'S LIKE [INAUDIBLE] >> THE ZIP OUT OF THE TOWER GOT TO [INAUDIBLE]. >> I WAS IMPRESSED TO YOU. I WAS EXPECTING THAT NUMBER TO BE ABOUT 780,000. >> AS LONG AS THE ZIPLINE CAN HOLD ME FOR ONE RIGHT. >> [NOISE] THERE WE GO. >> WITH THE DEL WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE, IT DOESN'T SAY YOU TO PROGRESS GPA. I'LL GET WITH THE CUB ON THAT ONE. STILL WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON SOFTBALL. WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO, BUT WE COULD GO THIS FIRST TO SEE WHAT THIS COST LOOKS LIKE. WE CAN COME BACK IN DECEMBER AND HAVE DECEMBER, CORRECT ME THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE REAL NUMBERS AND THE FISCAL YEAR, WHAT THE CLOSE OUT LOOKS LIKE AND REALLY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE. >> I THINK I WOULDN'T WAIT TILL DECEMBER. YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE THAT FIELD DONE AND READY. I WOULD A LITTLE BIT FASTER AT THE SBLC BOARD HAS TO MEET IN NOVEMBER. YOU HAVE NOVEMBER MEETING. WE CAN DO THAT. AS LONG AS YOU HAVE FIRM NUMBERS. YOU DON'T HAVE NUMBERS IN SHOULDN'T MEET, AND SO WE CAN WORK ON THAT THOUGH WE WERE FAR OFF FOR THE CLOSE OUT OF STUFF. I SAID, WE JUST HAD SOME SENS FOR THE PAYROLL AND A COUPLE OF OUTSTANDING INVOICES. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE EVEN THOUGH THE CITY MAY NOT HAVE CLOSED OUT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW OUR NUMBERS. I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT, COME BACK AND WE SHOULD HAVE CONCRETE COSTS AT THAT TIME AND FENCING, AND THEN WE COULD HELP STEER TO SEE WHAT MONEY AND FUNDING IS AVAILABLE AND WHAT DIRECTION WE CAN TAKE WITH [INAUDIBLE]. >> HOW CAN WE FIX THIS ONE? [BACKGROUND] >> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON [INAUDIBLE] >> THE MOTION I NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL. >> CAN I ASK REAL QUICK? THIS ONE WILL HAVE THE PORT IN PLAY? >> NO. >> THAT'S JUST PRETTY NICE SETTLE. >> THAT'S IT, YES, SHOWING JUST THE LAYOUT OF IT. I WISH BUT THAT PRICE THAT YOU SAW FROM THE OTHER ONE, IT WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER IF WE WERE TO DO THIS. YOU'LL PROBABLY LOOK AT MORE THAN $800,000. >> WE'LL GET THERE ONE DAY, HOPEFULLY. >> YES. >> TWO YEARS. THAT'S JUST VERY CONVENIENT FOR THEM GOOD YOU NOTICE. >> WE'RE GOING TO BRING PEOPLE [OVERLAPPING] >> I SEE. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY? >> YES. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. >> THIS IS JUST FOR THE FREEDOM [INAUDIBLE]? >> YES. >> MOTION GO TO SECOND? >> I MOTION TO GO WITH THE SECOND OPTION PRESENTED TO US. >> FINANCE SEVEN OR FIVE YEARS? >> FINANCE START WITH FIVE YEARS. >> GIVE YOU ALL THE DIRECTION YOU NEED THERE ON THAT MOTION. >> I SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THAT OPPOSED SIDE. MOTION CARRIES. >> WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR THIRD ITEM. [3. Discussion and possible action to include a Youth category in the Angleton Recreation Center discount structure.] DISCUSSION, HOSPITAL ACTION TO INCLUDE A YOUTH CATEGORY AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DISCOUNT STRUCTURE. AS WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE RECENTLY DONE IS WE LOOKED AT OUR FEE SCHEDULE, MADE SOME RECENT CHANGES TO THAT TO INCORPORATE A RESIDENT BUN RESIDENT RATE AND JUST EXPLORE CONTINUE OFFERINGS. WE ALSO INCREASED OUR DAY PASS USAGE. JUST SPEAKING ON THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT, WE DID SEE POSITIVE RETURNS ON THAT FOR THIS SUMMER, SO I WILL SAY THAT DAY PASS REVENUE WAS DOWN. HOWEVER, OUR MEMBERSHIP DID SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FOR THE SUMMER, [01:05:03] AND SO AS YOU RECALL, WE STARTED THAT TRANSITION IN JUNE, WHICH WAS RIGHT IN SUMMERTIME. IT DID ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BUY INTO THAT MEMBERSHIP WAS ULTIMATELY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, AND SO WE DID SEE POSITIVE RETURNS FROM THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THE BOARD HAD BROUGHT UP WOULD JUST TRY TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS IS MAKE SURE THAT THINGS WERE EQUITABLE. WE WERE OUT FOR YOU FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THEM. ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS CAME MORE AROUND THE YOUTH MEMBERSHIP SIDE OF THIS, HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE OUTLINE AND ACCESS TO THE REC CENTER AND ARE GOING THROUGH A CENTERS IN THE AREA A LOT OF THEM DO OFFER A YOUTH MEMBERSHIP. [INAUDIBLE] WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE CONSIDERATION TO BE ABLE TO USE AS AN INDIVIDUAL YOUTH MEMBERSHIP TO OUR CURRENT DISCOUNT STRUCTURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STREAMLINED WAS GOING MORE TO IF WE'RE OR A BENEFITS TO AND SO ANGLETON ISD EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE DISTO STRUCTURE. SURRY COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE IN THAT AS WELL, SENIORS ARE IN THAT AS WELL. THIS WOULD GIVE ANOTHER OFFERING FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULDN'T BE FOR A FAMILY IF YOU HAVE A KID IN YOUR FAMILY THAT REVERSE THAT RATE. IT WOULD JUST BE GEARED TO THE YOUTH THAT THEY WOULD HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MORE REGULARLY AND PROVIDE IT AS A UNIQUE OFFERING FOR THEM, BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF DISCOUNT RATE. OUR CURRENT DISCOUNT STRUCTURE IS AT $10 A MONTH THAT THEY WOULD DO A MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP OR $75 FOR THE YEAR, AND SO THAT WOULD BRING THAT DOWN TO INSTEAD OF THEM PAYING $35 AS A RESIDENT, IT WOULD BE PAYING 25. WE WOULD SEND THE SAME THING WITH S APPROVAL FOR NON RESIDENTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AS WELL TO HAVE A $10 DISCOUNT OR A $75. NO RESIDENT RATES. I WANTED TO OPEN THAT FOR THOUGHT SOME DISCUSSION. >> EVERY GROUP, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. EVERY GROUP ACTUALLY HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE INCOME. 12 TO 17 YEAR OLDS OUTSIDE THE FACT OF MAYBE GETTING MONEY FROM THEIR PARENTS AND SUCH. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE GUYS DON'T HAVE INCOME. >> IT'S COULD BE THEIR PARENTS. >> EXACTLY, SO I FEEL LIKE, YES, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY EXTEND THAT. WE COULD ALMOST GO OVER AND BEYOND WITH THE DAILY PASSES BEING $10 FOR THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT FIVE OR SO? BUT YES, I AGREE WE SHOULD EXTEND THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THAT TWIX AND TWEEN AGE GROUP. THOSE KIDS FROM 12-17 WHO LIKE THE ONES WHO NOT ENGAGED IN SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY NEED TO GO SOMEPLACE. YES, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO ANY CONCESSION WE CAN, BECAUSE WE'RE SUBSIDIZING WRECK ANYWAYS. THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE DAILY FEES AND PASSES ALL FOR THE UPKEEP OF THE WRECK, SO WHAT'S SUBSIDIZED FOR EVERYONE ELSE? WHY NOT SUBSIDIZE FOR THE 12 AND SEVEN YEAR OLDS? THAT'S MY TAKE ON THAT ONE. >> MY ONLY QUESTION IS IF SOMEBODY WERE WANTED TO GET CREATIVE, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, AND THEY DID I DON'T KNOW, TWO YOUTH, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT WORD. AS OPPOSED TO SAY, DOING A FAMILY PASS, DO THEY SAVE MONEY THAT WAY? >> THEY WOULD NOT. >> IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM TO PAY? >> IT WOULD MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM JUST TO SIGN UP FOR IT, SO I WILL SAY THE STRUCTURE OF RSO DOLLAR FOR A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP IS EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE. WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN THAT EVENT IS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO WITH A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP. THAT EVEN IF IT'S TWO OF THEM ARE GOING TO USE IT, BETTER FOR YOU JUST TO BE ON A FAMILY ONE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ABS. WHETHER YOU COME ONCE OR TEN TIMES, THAT MAKES THAT THIRD PERSON REALLY FREE, AND SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE [INAUDIBLE]. >> I LIKE THE IDEA. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO REQUIRE SCHOOL ID. >> WE GO MORE OF THE ROOTS OF THE STUDENT MEMBERSHIP? >> WELL, 12 TO 17, THAT THEY SHOW ALL THE STUDENTS FROM MOST OF PARTS THEY THEY'D HAVE TO SHOW THEIR STUDENT ID FOR THIS COUNTY. >> THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PUT THOSE PRIMERS IN PLACE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW AND PROVE THAT THEY ARE. >> WHAT THEIR HOME SCHOOL? WHAT WOULD YOU DO THERE? >> I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED AS A HOME SCHOOL STUDENTS TO RECEIVE CREDIT FOR HOME SCHOOL, SO THEY COULD DO THAT AN EXAMPLE OF SCHOOL ID. >> COULD WE NOT? WITH PROOF OF VALID BIRTH CERTIFICATE AT THE TIME ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MONTHLY OR YEAR LONG MEMBERSHIPS. [01:10:07] TO SHOULD BE CERTAINLY. I UNDERSTAND IF SOMEBODY'S COMING DAILY. NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO BRING THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I WOULDN'T TRUST MY KID. >> BUT FOR THE MEMBERSHIP, THAT WOULD BE A ONE TIME. I WILL SAY EXAMPLE FOR THAT ONE IS WHEN THE PARENTS COME IN TO SIGN UP THEIR FAMILY, WE TAKE THAT FIRST TIME IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES ON IT. IF SOMEBODY COMES BACK JUST KIDDING IN MIND THAT'S WRONG, WE ASK FOR MORE VALID PROOF. >> I WILL DO THAT ANYWAY, RIGHT? WHEN NEW FAMILY PLANS, DON'T WE HAVE DATA BIRTHS ENTERED INTO THE 'ALL USUALLY KNOW EVERYBODY'S? >> WE TYPICALLY WOULD, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT WE COULD ASK THEM TO SHOW THEIR STUDENT TO SHOW. >> I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S GOING TO BE FLATS OF VERIFICATION. >> THEY DON'T HAVE THE DIFFERENCE I WILL SAY WITH THERE'S. THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, SO IF YOU'RE UNDER. >> CORRECT. >> UNDER AGE. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, SO WE WOULD NEED SOMETHING THAT HAS THE PREFERABLY THEIR PHOTO AND THEIR, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE VERIFICATION THAT THE FIRST ONE THEY SAY THEY ARE IS WHO WOULD BE. >> I THINK WITH A HOME SCHOOL JUST BEING SUCH A SMALL GROUP IN GENERAL. I THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK WITH, HEY, HERE'S THE SCHOOL DOCUMENTS. HERE'S THE BOMB. THIS IS MY LICENSE. THIS IS MY CHILD, BIRTH CERTIFICATE, ONE TIME DEAL. GOOD TO GO. >> I'LL SAY THE OTHER PIECE THAT COMES WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY IF WE ROLE SAL ANS. WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THEM IS THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PARENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SIGN FOR A MEMBERSHIP THEMSELVES, SO THEIR PARENTS HAS TO SIGN BOARDS. WE COULD HAVE THAT TO WHERE THEY CAME IN, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED FIRST TIME THEY SIGN UP. PARENT HAS TO BE ON THERE SO WE HAVE AM CONTACT ASSOCIATED TECHNICALLY, ALL THAT IS A CRIME IF THEY WERE TO SAY. >> FORAGING A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT, I WAS BASICALLY YOU'RE AUTHENTICATING THAT THIS IS WHO YOU ARE. I MEAN YOU'D BE. >> I WAS JUST A WE'RE A FORM OF GOVERNMENT. WANT TO UTILIZE THEIR SCHOOL ID OR SOMETHING, AND FEEL LIKE THEY I ALSO ALMOST KID DAY. THIS IS ID NO, WITH THE ON TAPE. THEY GOT A THREE MARKING ANSWERS SOMEWHERE. HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE THE KIDS TO KNOW? >> WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THINGS LIKE OPTIONS TO SHOW LIKE KNOWING THEY'RE ON THAT TIME. I CAN'T TELL YOU S WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK OUT DIFFERENT PROMOTIONS. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY OFFERING BIRTHDAY, WHICH WE NOTICED THURSDAY START TO TREND DOWN. WE WANT PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO CUT, AND SO IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME THROUGH THURSDAY OR IF YOU COME WITH A MEMBER, IT'S ACTUALLY FREE THAT DAY. IT'S TRYING TO OUR. I LOVE THAT. AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE TO USE THAT. TO YOUR POINT, WE'LL SAY THE IDS. WE REQUIRED COLLATERAL FOR CHECKING ON EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW, AND THEIR STUDENT IDS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY CAN USE. THEY CAN TURN THAT INTO USE FOR BASKETBALL. >> SIXTEEN TO 70 YEAR OLDS HAVE DRIVER'S PERMITS. BUT THAT'S VERY GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE SO MUCH FOCUS THIS COMMUNITY ON SPORTS. WE REALLY NEED TO HONE IN SOMETIME, ACTUALLY, A ACADEMICS. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> THAT'S COMBINED ACADEMICS ALONG WITH THE RECREATION AS WELL, SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S EXCELLENT. >> WHAT ABOUT LIKE LIKE A SIX MONTH MEMBERSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF SHE DIDN'T WANT TO THE YEAR MEMBERSHIP OR MONTH. >> COULD DO A MONTH TO MONTH? >> YOU CAN DO A MONTH. >> WE HAVE MONTH TO MONTH IN YEAR. >> MONTH TO MONTH IN YEAR. NOT TO SAY IT WOULD BE NECESSARILY AGAINST THAT. IT WOULD JUST BE OUTSIDE HE CURRENT STRUCTURE IT WOULD BE AN EXTRA HURDLE. THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO GO ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE, I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNSEL TO ADOPT IT. BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A DISCOUNT STRUCTURE IN PLACE. THIS IS JUST AN ADD IN TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR IT. >> DID YOU POST THE BRACKET? >> BUT THE MONTH OF MONTH IS LIKE THAT OPTION. THEN MAKE MONTH IS JUST LIKE WE JUST REQUIRE TEN DAYS NOTICE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CANCEL BEFORE YOU'RE DRAFTING I WAS CLEANING LIKE JOHN SAID, LIKE ARE YOU ON ROLL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOME A THREE MONTH DEAL OR I WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE A WHOLE YEAR. I WAS ON THINKING LIKE A DAY OR A WEEK. [LAUGHTER]. >> TALK ABOUT THAT. >> THEY GET THEIR PROGRESS REPORTS EVERY NINE WEEKS, AND SO WE CAN RUN THAT EVERY TIME THEY GET PROGRESS REPORTS PROGRESS REPORTS. >> A THREE DAY PASS? >> SURE. >> THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA, THOUGH. I LIKE DR. JACKSON. WE COULD MAKE SOME LINKS INTO THE ACADEMIC WITH PROOF OF, GOOD GRADES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JOHN, YOU WANT I THINK IT WAS DR. JACKSON. >> NO, JUST TEASING HIM. I'M JUST TEASING GUESSING. >> I MUST ASSURED UP WITH THE FULL BUID MUSTACHE WE KNOW. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S SOMEWHAT SUSPICIOUS. [01:15:04] >> I DEFENSE IN DEFENSE OF THOSE KIDS, I HAD A BEARD AND MUSTACHE THAT AROUND 14 15. >> THEY CAN'T PICK THAT. >> WE HAVE PROGRAMS TOO, THAT SEPARATE FROM THIS, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THEY'RE AN A ON ROLE. WE GIVE THEM A FREE SLOT TO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS OR THAT [INAUDIBLE]. >> I WOULD THE ONLY HESITATION ON THAT ONE IS REC CENTER BRINGS A LOT OF REVENUE, AND YOU CAN ENCOURAGE THAT MEMBERSHIP SIDE WAS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM PROGRAMS RIGHT. >> AFFECTS COST RECOVERY A LITTLE MORE. >> SURE. >> I THINK YOU PROBABLY FLESHED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I SUPPORT [INAUDIBLE]. >> I AGREE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO BUILD OFF OF. JUST NEED SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE MORE FOOTING ON IT. I LIKE THAT AS WELL I THINK MAKING SURE THAT THEY RECOGNIZED THAT THERE, AND THEY'RE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL. A LOT OF TIMES SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF THEY CAN, SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT. >> THAT WAS REALLY A BIG PART OF OUR INTENT TO SEE WHO UTILIZES THE FACILITY. OUR DATE PASS CHANGED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT IMPACT ON THAT, AND IT WASN'T ALWAYS A FAMILY COMING. IT WAS TYPICALLY PARENTS GIVING A KID MONEY TO GO FOR THAT DAY, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THAT BACK IT'S STILL AFFORDABLE FOR YOUR KID TO YOUR CHILD TO COME UP TO THE REC CENTER. WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. >> IN A MOTION TO RE. >> I MOVE THE ABLC ADOPT AND ACCEPT THE CENTER ELIGIBLE MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY RECOMMENDATION. >> I SECOND IT. >> I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ADDITION OF YOUTH CATEGORY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED, SAM SIX. MOTION PASSED, AND THAT BRING US TO END. >> DO WE HAVE YOU GET TO TALK TO HIM OR NO, IS THAT NOT ALL? WE GET COMMISSION ADDRESS JASON OR DO WE HAVE THAT? >> WE JUST HAVE ADJOURNMENT ON MY APOLOGIES. I'LL GET WITH MICHELLE ON THAT ONE. THAT WAS ONE WE FOR ALL THE. I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE]. >> I JUST I LIKE TO ADD THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT HAVE HAD IN MIND. BUT I'LL TALK TO YOU PRIVATELY, I GUESS. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL ADJOURN 6:49 AND SIX. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.