>> WE'RE GOING TO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. [00:00:04] WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM PRESENT TONIGHT. I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY THAT'S INDEPENDENCE. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVITATION. >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING, PASTOR BRAD DU BOSE FROM CENTRAL ASSEMBLY, WE'LL GIVE YOU CREDIT. >> FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR LORD A COMMUNITY SUCH AS THIS, LORD, BEING LED BY GREAT MEN AND WOMEN. WE LIFT UP MAYOR JOHN AND MAYOR PRO TEM TRAVIS. FOR THE MEMBERS, CHRISTINE, TANNER, AND BLAINE, LORD, WE JUST ASK YOU, LORD JUST TO GIVE THEM WISDOM. SOLOMON PRAYED NOT FOR WEALTH, OR POWER, OR FAME, BUT HE ASKED YOU TO GIVE HIM WISDOM, AND WE PRAY THAT OVER THE LEADERS OF THIS CITY. LORD, I ASK YOU IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS THAT YOU WILL GIVE LORD WISDOM TO ESTABLISH JUSTICE IN OUR LAND, AND THAT THEY SHOW MERCY AND THAT THEY PRACTICE HUMILITY. LORD, WHILE THERE MAY BE DISAGREEMENTS AND HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS, I COME AGAINST A SPIRIT OF DIVISION IS RUNNING RAMPANT IN OUR LAND. LORD, I ASK YOU TO JUST TO LET YOUR GRACE AND YOUR LOVE AND YOUR MERCY FELL THIS LAND AND THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY. FATHER, WE'RE GOING TO BE CAREFUL TO GIVE YOU THE THANKS, PRAISE, AND GLORY FOR IT ALL IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS, WE PRAY. AMEN. [NOISE] >> PASTOR BRAD DU BOSE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ANGLETON CENTRAL ASSEMBLY DOES, ESPECIALLY IN THE COMMUNITY, GOING OUT AND HANDING OUT EVERY HOLIDAY, EVERYTHING YOU'LL DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. SIR. WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS. I DO HAVE CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS ANY COUNCIL. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING NOW OUTSIDE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS? I WILL SAVE THEM FOR WHEN THE AGENDA ITEMS COME UP. CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS. ITEM NUMBER 1, [1. Presentation of employee service award.] PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARD. >> BRANDY. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF YOU WILL JOIN US UP FRONT. WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE BRANDY FALLEN FOR FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON. [APPLAUSE] >> ITEM NUMBER 2, THE PRESENTATION OF CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION TO [2. The presentation of Certificates of Appreciation to Rhonda Barton and Walmart for their dedication to the Shop with a Cop program. ] RHONDA BARTON AND WALMART FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO THE SHOP WITH A COP PROGRAM. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, THE MAYOR. TONIGHT, WE'RE HONOR TO RECOGNIZE RHONDA BARTON WITH A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION. RHONDA, YOUR HARD WORK, DEDICATION, BEHIND SCENES COMMITMENT TO THE SHOP WITH A COP PROGRAM HAVE MADE A LASTING IMPACT BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORTS, COUNTLESS FAMILIES, CHILDREN, EXPERIENCED, NOT JUST GENEROSITY, BUT GENUINE CARE, AND CONNECTION DURING THE HOLIDAYS. GIVE YOUR TIME, YOUR ENERGY, YOUR HEART TO THIS PROGRAM, AND IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO MAKE SHOP WITH A COP SUCCESS. THANK YOU, RHONDA, FOR YOUR SERVICE, YOUR COMPASSION, YOUR CONTINUED DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. [APPLAUSE] TODAY, WE'RE HONORED TO PRESENT CERTIFICATION APPRECIATION TO THE ANGLETON WALMART AND HIS DEDICATED EMPLOYEES FOR BEING AN OUTSTANDING PARTNER TO THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SHOP WITH A COP PROGRAM. YOUR TEAM'S GENEROSITY, COOPERATION, AND WILLINGNESS TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP MAKE THIS EVENT TRULY SPECIAL FOR THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WHO WE SERVED. BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK AND KINDNESS OF THE ANGLETON WALMART ASSOCIATES, SHOP WITH A COP BECOMES A WELCOMING AND MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. [00:05:03] WE SINCERELY THANK ANGLETON WALMART AND ITS EMPLOYEES FOR IT CONTINUED SUPPORT, COMMUNITY SPIRIT, AND COMMITMENT TO MAKING A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE HERE IN ANGLETON. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR COUNCIL, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, SHOP WITH A COP IS ONE OF OUR FAVORITE THINGS TO DO. HOWEVER, THIS YEAR, WE HAD A FUNDRAISER, AND IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST YEAR TO GIVE OUT TWO $1,000 SCHOLARSHIPS TO [INAUDIBLE] HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. [APPLAUSE] >> LAST BUT NOT LEAST. TODAY, [3. Presentation of a Certificate of Appreciation to Janice Smithhart for her continuous donation of food to the Angleton Police Department.] WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JANICE SMITHHART AND SMITHHART GRILL FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE GENEROSITY AND SUPPORT OF OUR OFFICERS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS. WHILE MANY ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY AND LOVED ONES, JANICE AND HER TEAM CHOOSE TO GET BACK BY ENSURING OUR OFFICERS ARE CARED FOR AND APPRECIATED. YOUR KINDNESS, HOSPITALITY, AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THOSE WHO SERVE THE COMMUNITY MEAN MORE THAN WORDS CAN EXPRESS. THANK YOU, JANICE, AND THANK YOU, SMITHHART GRILL, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, COMPASSION, AND COMMITMENT TO OUR OFFICERS AND OUR COMMUNITY. [APPLAUSE] >> JUST TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT JANICE AS WELL. SHE NOT ONLY PROVIDES HOT MEALS ON THE HOLIDAY ON CHRISTMAS AND ON THANKSGIVING, AND SHE BRINGS THEM UP HERE TO THE PD EVERY YEAR. NOT JUST THIS YEAR, BUT FOR MANY YEARS THAT SHE'S DONE THIS. WE APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THE OFFICERS [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE NOTHING'S OPEN ON CHRISTMAS. [APPLAUSE] >> ITEM NUMBER 4, WE'RE SKIPPING THAT ONE. >> SHE'S SIGNED IT. >> WE WILL GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES, BUT ITEM NUMBER 3 WAS PRESENTATION OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION TO JANICE SMITHHART FOR HER CONTINUOUS DONATION TO FOOD TO THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE'S NO MORE PRESENTATIONS, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. [BACKGROUND] >> CONFIRMATION [INAUDIBLE]. >> YES. ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S FOR THIS WEEKEND. >> THAT WAS THE [INAUDIBLE]. MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE LANDMARK AQUATICS PROPOSAL FOR TILE CLEANING AND TILE REPAIRS AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER NATATORIUM, AND AUTHORIZE THE ACTING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ASSOCIATED PROPOSALS. ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION, RATIFYING RESOLUTION NUMBER 20251209-010 FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECEMBER 9, 2025, APPROVAL CONSENTING TO THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, BOUNDARY ANNEXATION FOR A PETITION WHICH ADDS A 4.9-ACRE TRACT AND A 1.943-ACRE TRACT INTO THE MUD 82 DISTRICT, SITUATED WITHIN THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT. COUNCIL? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SMITH, FOR APPROVAL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER 7. [7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20260113-007, a Zoning Text Amendment, amending the Code of Ordinances, Section 28-81(b)- Use Regulations (Charts), adding “Studio Tattoo or Body Piercing” as a Specific Use Permit (S.U.P.) allowance within the Central Business District (CBD), Light Industrial (LI), Commercial- Mixed Use (C-MU), and Commercial- Office/Retail (C-OR) Zoning Districts.] CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20260113-007, A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 28-81B. USE REGULATIONS CHARTS ADDING THE STUDIO TATTOO OR BODY PIERCING AS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ALLOWANCE WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, MIXED-USE, AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL ZONING DISTRICTS. OTIS. >> THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE] STATED. THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 28, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE CLARITY IN OUR LAWFUL USE TABLE. WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS IS AN ACTION WE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, [00:10:05] WHERE WE ADDED MICROBLADING TO THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AS IT RELATED TO TATTOOING. BUT WE NEGLECTED TO CARRY DOWN THE SPECIFIC USES FOR TATTOOING WITHIN THE OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. WHAT THIS DOES, AS I STATED, THIS REPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLAN COMMISSION, WHO CONSIDER THIS IN THEIR JANUARY MEETING AND VOTE 3-20 TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED TEXT CHANGE. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE USES TO APPEAR IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS A SPECIFIC USE, WHICH WOULD GO BEFORE BOTH BOARDS AND MOVE ON TO COST OF FINAL ATTENTION. ON PAGE, I THINK 49 IN THE AGENDA PACKET WOULD BE THE CHANGE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE ADDING THOSE [INAUDIBLE] TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL [INAUDIBLE], COMMERCIAL OFFICE, RETAIL, AS WELL AS THE CBD CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER NOW. >> MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST THIS ITEM? EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T FILL ONE OF THESE OUT, YOU CAN GO UP THERE TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION ON THE ITEM. I THOUGHT WE HAD A TAKER. LAST CALL. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL. >> MS. LEWIS, ITEM 15. >> THE BATTERY. >> I'VE GOT HIM SORTED UP HERE. OTIS, I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> ITEM 7 AND 8 ARE COMPANIONS, THEY GO TOGETHER? >> YES, SIR. EIGHT CANNOT OCCUR IF SEVEN IS NOT [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND: THE ORDERS. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT YOUR DESTINATION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE TATTOO PIERCING PLACE IN THE CBD BEFORE. CORRECT? >> AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, WE ADDED MICROBLADING TO THAT SPACE THAT'S 119 IN THE CBD, SO WE DID CLEAN UP THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THAT AS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THEN YOUR OTHER TATTOO SHOP WAS ON WEST MYRTLE WITHIN THE C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. >> IT WASN'T CBD? >> NO, IT WAS NOT. IT'S RIGHT ADJACENT TO CBD [OVERLAPPING] THAT WHOLE AREA WAS. YES. THAT TATTOOING HAS OCCURRED DOWNTOWN, BUT IT'S JUST THAT [INAUDIBLE] OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE DID NOT ALLOW FOR IT IN CBD. >> WASN'T THE LAST ONE THAT WAS APPROVED FOR SPECIAL USE? DIDN'T WE STIPULATE THAT THAT WAS APPROVED BECAUSE OF A COSMETIC NATURE AND NOT NECESSARILY? >> EXACTLY, MICROBLADING. WE CHANGED THE TEXT MICROBLADING [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT ONE WAS NOT IN THE CBD, RIGHT? >> THAT IS CBD. THAT'S THE ONE [OVERLAPPING] THAT ADDRESS [INAUDIBLE]. >> THANK YOU. THAT WAS APPROPRIATE. >> COUNCIL. >> WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY COMING IN TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST THIS ITEM. >> NO ONE DID ON ITEM 7. I DO HAVE PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 8. THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE COMPANION. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHEN YOU WERE READING THIS TO US, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN HERE, BUT MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. [00:15:02] IS THERE A COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL? >> THERE'S A DISTRICT C-OR, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL. YES. >> IS RETAIL ALSO RESIDENTIAL? >> I APOLOGIZE. COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL, YES. C-OR. >> THAT WAS MY CONFUSION. [INAUDIBLE] RESIDENTIAL. >> NO, SIR, THIS IS ALL FOR COMMERCIAL PERMITS. >> YOU SAID RESIDENTIAL, AND I'M READING RETAIL. NOT SURE. THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM EIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 7, FEEL FREE. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE GUIDANCE. >> I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY APPLICANTS. >> I DON'T HEAR A QUICK ANSWER FROM THE COUNSEL, SO I WANT TO GET SOME MORE CLARITY FROM YOUR GROUP. >> HI. MY NAME IS JANET ALTIVEROS. I AM REQUESTING THE APPROVAL FOR THE SUP ON THE BROKEN ART STUDIO, THE TATTOO THE PIERCING BODY STUDIO. >> OKAY. >> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU LIKE TO ASK? >> I ASSUME YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS. >> YES. >> MS. GANZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. >> YOU FILLED OUT ONE, TOO. >> YES. >> I'M ANGIE GANZ. I'M THE BUILDING OWNER. WE'VE MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE SWEET FAMILY, AND WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING VERY TASTEFUL, BOUTIQUE-LIKE SITUATION, REASONABLE OFFICE HOURS. WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE TATTOO BOUTIQUE COMING IN FOR SURE. THEN ALSO ON THIS FORM, IT'S ACTUALLY 108 NORTH ALASKA. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU. I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP ON. I'M 82 IN MINUTES. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SIDE? DO I HAVE AN ACTION COMING OUT OF THE SIDE? I NEED TO APPROVE OF THE ORDINANCE, IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT. >> I THINK ADDING THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS WILL HELP CUT TIME SPENT HERE IN BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING AND IN COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'LL BE ONE LESS STEP TO HAVING TO GET CONFIRMED AGAIN AND AGAIN. NOW THEY'LL JUST HAVE TO COME TO US FOR AN SUP. WE'LL STILL HAVE TIME TO SPEAK WITH FUTURE BUSINESSES WHO WANT TO PROCEED IN THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS. >> YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ADDING THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE OPERATING AS AN SUP, WHICH GIVES COUNSEL CONTROL AS TO WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN'T DO OR THEY LOSE THE SUP. >> APPROVAL SETS PRECEDENT. >> WELL, IT DOES. THAT DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT. >> MA'AM. >> WHAT OTHER YOU HAVE DISTRICTS YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH? THIS IS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY OTHERS INCLUDED. >> RIGHT THERE ARE. THAT'S THE PART THAT IF I WAS TO HAVE A HANG-UP, I THINK CBD WOULD BE THE ONE I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS. >> INDUSTRIAL. >> THE PROBLEM IS THAT OUR ZONING WHILE IT WAS WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE THE FORMER TATTOO SHOP WAS IN THE CBD HONESTLY, BUT IT WAS NOT ZONED AS A CBD. IT WAS ZONED AS SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK IT WAS COR, WASN'T IT? IN THAT LOCATION. >> IT WAS CG. >> MY OTHER FAVORITE ONE, CG. > CG AND THEN THERE WAS ONE ON HENDERSON AND CG THAT WAS APPROVED AS AN SUP ALSO. THAT ONE IS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE. >> IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER REMOVING THOSE OUT OF COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL, RETAINING IT IN LI ADDED TO CP. I READ IN CG, THEN STAFF IS FINE WITH THAT. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. THE MICRO GLADDING IS STILL OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT. [00:20:03] THEY DON'T DO REGULAR TATTOOS. THAT'S MOSTLY COSMETIC RELATED TATTOOS, SO I THINK THAT WOULD FOLLOW THE SPIRIT OF INTENT. I THINK OF WHERE THE CONVERSATION IS GOING. IF THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL, THEN THAT WOULD CUT THAT OUT AND NOT ALLOW IT NEAR MOST OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES. >> NEAR COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL. >> COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL IS COMMERCIAL, FOR THE MOST PART, BUT IT COULD BE ON THE FRINGE [NOISE] OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COULD INDEED BE MULTIFAMILY NEXT TO COMMERCIAL. COMMERCIAL MIX USE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MIXTURE OF EVERYTHING. >> THE ONE WE APPROVED ON HENDERSON, I SEE THAT THAT BUILDING IS A MIX OF COR AND CG. DO YOU REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHICH ONE IT WAS? >> THE CG. >> IT WAS THE CG? >> YES. >> COUNCIL? >> SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT LETTING IT IN THE COR, OR YES. >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PERMITTING OR REMOVING I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAY YOU WANT TO PRAISE THIS THE MIXED USE AND THE OFFICE RETAIL. >> CMU. >> EXCUSE ME. >> CM IS COMMERCIAL. >> CMU. >> THERE'S ONE AFTER THAT. >> CM, I'M SORRY. >> CM WOULD BE A SMALL, REAL TINY COMMERCIAL CONVERSION OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, POSSIBLY INTO COMMERCIAL. >> I PREFER NOT TO HAVE IT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP IT OUT OF RESIDENTIAL. >> IT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED AS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT? >> THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT BECAUSE WE HAVE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO OFFICES THAT HAVE BEEN USED BY CERTAIN SHOPS, MAINLY ATTORNEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE AREA I WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE OPEN TO A BUSINESS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE. >> ESPECIALLY IN THE OLDER PART TOWN, THERE'S DEFINITELY RESIDENCES THAT WERE FORMER RESIDENTS NOW TURNED INTO OFFICES THAT IF YOU OPENED IT UP, THIS COULD GO. >> THEY ALL COME TO YOU ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WEIGH THE SURROUNDING CONDITIONS, AND IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC YES. WE USUALLY EXPLAIN THAT TO PEOPLE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING INTO THE FABRIC OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET A YES IF IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE. YOU STILL HAVE LIBERTY IF WE HAVE A RARE OCCURRENCE IF YOU GET AN APPLICATION NEXT TO A HOME, AND THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT NECESSARILY A TATTOOING, BUT THE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. >> WE NEED TO SPECIFY THERE IS CHANGES? >> YES. >> WE NEED TO SPECIFY. >> WELL, REMOVING IT FROM FROM COR AND CMU. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20260113-007, WITH THE EXCLUSIONS OF MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARIES. SO THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 8. [8. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20260113-008 approving a Specific Use Permit (S.U.P.) for a Tattoo Art Studio use within the Central Business Zoning District (CBD), for property located at 108 South Velasco Street, Angleton, Texas, Brazoria County.] CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20260113-008, APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TATTOO ART STUDIO, USED WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 108. THIS SAYS SOUTH ALASKA STREET, ANGLETON, TEXAS, MISSOURI COUNTY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOTED THAT IT'S 108 NORTH ALASKA. >> YES. THE ORDINANCE DOES SPECIFY NORTH. WE APOLOGIZE. THEN THE EXHIBIT ALSO SPECIFIES THE NORTH AS WELL. >> COUNCIL? >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. TECHNICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO REOPEN IT. [00:25:01] >> I MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. CALL THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> NO OPPOSED. YOU'RE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU WISHING TO SPEAK ON OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION. HEARING NONE. >> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION TO CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE SECOND. DO YOU NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE SAME SIGN. WE'RE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. >> THERE WERE CONDITIONS FOR IT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF WHICH THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF AND DO CONCUR WITH THAT WOULD UNTIL THE HOURS OF OPERATION. THEN THE FACT THAT WITHIN ONE YEAR, WE WOULD DO A RE-EVALUATION, REPORT BACK TO THE COUNSEL IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES. THEN FROM THERE, THE SUP COULD CONTINUE ON. THOSE WOULD BE CONDITIONS A THROUGH E. >> COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT, ANY CONDITIONS YOU'D LIKE TO SPECIFY? >> YOU SAID THERE WERE CONDITIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FORWARD THIS WITH THE CONDITIONS NOTED. THEY COVERED THOSE ITEMS, HOURS OF OPERATION, AND THEN THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY HOLD TO THE APPROVAL AS DISCUSSED TONIGHT, AND THEN OF COURSE, WATCH IT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS. THEN AFTER THAT ONE YEAR, THEY WILL BE UP FOR A CONTINUANCE OR IF THERE ARE ISSUES, HOPEFULLY, CORRECTIVE ACTIONS. >> WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS TO BE? >> SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. >> 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM. >> MISS ONTIVERIS, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE SEVEN TO NINE? BY THE WAY, I HAVE TO ASK, THE ENTRY IS TO THE OFF THE VELASCO SIDE. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE COMING AND GOING OUT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. >> NO. >> HOW MUCH BUSINESS DO YOU DO ON SUNDAY MORNINGS, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU.. >> SUNDAY MORNINGS? >> YES. >> ON SUNDAY MORNINGS, I NORMALLY CLOSE, BUT I WORKED BY A POINT. IT'S LIKE JUST VARIES IN THINGS. >> IF SOMEBODY NEEDS YOU, AND THAT'S THE BEST TIME FOR THEM, THAT'S WHAT YOU. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? >> I THINK PLANNING AND ZONING SUMMED IT UP PRETTY WELL. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH FIVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR APPROVAL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. SAME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ITEM NUMBER 9, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, [9. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20260113-009 approving a Specific Use Permit (S.U.P.) for a Private, Non-Emergency Emergency Medical Services (EMS)-Ambulance use within the Commercial General (C-G) Zoning District for property located at 201 East Myrtle Street, Angleton, Texas, Brazoria County.] DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20260113-009, APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE NON EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AMBULANCE USE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 201 EAST MYRTLE STREET, ANGLETON, TEXAS, MISSOURI COUNTY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS ANOTHER SUP PUBLIC HEARING FOR EMS EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICE WITHIN THE CG COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT DOES REQUIRE THIS GO BEFORE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AMBULANCE SERVICES. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE UNIQUE. MR. MASSAD IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THIS SERVICE. IS MOSTLY FOR TRANSPORTING PURPOSES. THERE WILL BE NO AUDIBLE SIRENS, AND IT WILL BE UNDER A LEASE AGREEMENT. [00:30:03] THEY APPEAR BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ISSUES WHATSOEVER WITH THIS. HE DID SPEAK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD NOTE IN THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND UNANIMOUSLY VOTED FOUR TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS SUP WITHIN THE CG COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR THIS ADDRESS 201 EAST MYRTLE. >> WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED. WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION. COUNCIL. >> A MOTION TO CLOSE. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. WE ARE OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL? >> SEEMS LIKE A GOOD LOCATION TO ME. >> YEAH. I DON'T SEE HER PROBLEM WITH IT. IS THAT A MOTION? >> YES. >> SECOND. >> I GOT A MOTION OUT OF MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN SARTIN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 10, [10. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20260113-010 approving a Specific Use Permit (S.U.P.) for an In-Home Dog Grooming Business within the Single Family (SF) 6.3 Zoning District, pursuant to Code Sec. 28-109 for property located at 503 East Orange Street, Angleton, Texas, Brazoria County. ] CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSSION AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20260113-010 APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN IN HOME DOG GROOMING BUSINESS WITHIN THE SINGLE FAMILY 6.3 ZONING DISTRICT, PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 28-109 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 503 EAST ORANGE STREET, ANGLETON, TEXAS, MISSOURI COUNTY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS, WHICH WOULD OPERATE JUST AS A HOME OCCUPATION WITHIN THE 6.3 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. MR. DYLAN BUSCH IS PROPOSING THIS USE, WHICH IT WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THEIR JANUARY MEETING. IT WAS VOTED FOUR TO ZERO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. I WILL NOTE THAT WITHIN THE COVER, THERE'S A 12 BY 14 RECOMMENDED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN WHICH THE DOG GROOMING WOULD TAKE PART FROM A RESERVATION OR THEY WOULD ACTUALLY SET UP THOSE APPOINTMENTS ONE-ON-ONE. HE IS REQUESTING THAT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE NOT EXCEED 440 SQUARE FEET FOR THAT OUT BUILDING. MR. BUSCH IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AND AS NOTED, IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. MR. BUSCH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NOW? >> HELLO. MY NAME IS DYLAN BUSCH, MY WIFE ON WIZARD PAUSE DOG GROOMING. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, BUT I AM ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ALL MAY HAVE. >> GREAT. WELL, WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING, SO AFTER WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE MIGHT CALL YOU BACK UP TO THE PODIUM FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE IN FAVOR. >> YES. >> GOT IT. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION? COUNCIL? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WILL NOTE FOR ALL OF THESE, WE TYPICALLY DO NOTIFY ALL OF THE OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT WAS DULY ADVERTISED WITHIN THE NEWSPAPER. >> ANY YOUR RESPONSES? >> NO, SIR. >> CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. YOU'RE NOT OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUSCH? >> YES. >> MR. BUSCH, CAN YOU COME BACK TO THE VOTIUM, PLEASE? >> HOW LONG DO YOU PLAN TO KEEP THE ANIMALS IN YOUR CARE? >> TYPICALLY, I'D SAY FOR IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE DOG, BUT MOST GROOMS ARE ANYWHERE FROM 2.5 -3.5 HOURS. WE DON'T DO OVERNIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. [00:35:01] IN THEIR REMINDER TEXT, WE HAVE A SYSTEM ALREADY SET UP WHERE THEY GET A REMINDER FOR THEIR APPOINTMENT, AND ALSO SAYS THEY NEED TO BE PICKED UP WITHIN 45 MINUTES OF RECEIVING THEIR TEXT. THEY'RE ALL AWARE THAT THEY PICKED UP FAIRLY FAST. >> WHAT ARE YOUR NORMAL HOURS? >> THEY'RE TYPICALLY ABOUT NINE TO FOUR. >> ON THE WEEKENDS TOO? >> HAVE WE WORKED LIKE TWO SATURDAYS, BUT THAT'S USUALLY ABOUT TEN TO TWO. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUSCH? >> HOW LONG YOU DONE THIS? >> MY WIFE STARTED IT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. I JOINED HER ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW. ABOUT FIVE YEARS. >> THIS IS YOUR FAMILY BUSINESS ESSENTIALLY? >> YES, SIR. >> YOU RESIDE AT 5:03? >> YES, SIR. >> HOW ABOUT THE ENTRANCE? ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU MAKING THE DRIVEWAYS ON WHAT ROAD? OFF OF MORGAN. IS THAT WHERE YOUR STRUCTURE IS GOING TO GO? >> YES. WE HAVE A SHED ALREADY OUT THERE A DETACHED GARAGE, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IT NEXT TO THAT ON THE BARBERSHOP SIDE BECAUSE WE LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE LEGACY 100 BARBERSHOP. WE ALREADY HAVE A DRIVEWAY THERE, WHICH WE'VE BEEN MEETING TO REDO AND MAKE NICER ANYWAY. WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT WIDER AT THE SAME TIME. >> ONLY BECAUSE THIS CAME UP A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNSEL. THERE WAS A DOG GROOMER OFF OF CIBER THAT WE GRANTED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR. THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO WITH, LIKE, THE HAIR, AND WHEN YOU DO THE GROOMING, WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF THAT? IS IT GOING IN PICKING UP REGULAR GARBAGE OR >> WE JUST PUT IT IN TRASH WE DON'T. IT DOESN'T FILL IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO FILL A TRASH BAG. WE USE VERY SMALL TRASH BAGS, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY ALL WE HAVE IN A DAY IS A SMALL BAG OF HAIR. WE JUST PUT IT IN THE REGULAR TRASH WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY? >> WHAT IS IT STANDARD OPERATING HOURS? >> TYPICALLY, WE'RE OPEN ABOUT NINE TO FOUR. IT'S BY APPOINTMENT EARLY, SO IT MAY RUN A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT WE HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL AND STUFF, SO WE TRY TO GET OUT OF THERE PRETTY CLOSE TO FOUR EVERY DAY. >> DO YOU USUALLY HAVE ONE PET AT A TIME OR. >> TYPICALLY DEPENDS ON THE SIZE. IT DOES DEPEND ON THE SIZE, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE. WE TRY NOT TO DO MORE THAN THAT. WE LIKE TO DO LOW VOLUME AND LOW STRESS FOR ALL THE ANIMALS. >> I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOUR YOU HAVE A BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN, AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. THANKS FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT. YES. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT APPEARS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING HAS GONE OVER MOST OF THIS. FOLLOWING THEIR LEAD, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, SIGNED BY COUNCILMAN SMITH FOR APPROVAL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. BUSH. >> ITEM NUMBER 11. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, [11. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20260113-011 approving a request to abandon a 10-foot inactive Utility Easement for property located at 2201 South Velasco Street, Angleton, Texas, Brazoria County, on a 5.00-acre tract of land, west of Shanks Road, south of Iden Road. ] DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20260113-011, APPROVING A REQUEST TO ABANDON A TEN FOOT INACTIVE UTILITY EASEMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 22:01 SOUTH LASCO STREET, ANGLETON, TEXAS, MISSOURI COUNTY, ON A FIVE ACRE TRACT OF LAND WEST OF SHANKS ROAD, SOUTH OF IDEN ROAD. >. THANK YOU, MAN, COUNSEL. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN ABANDONMENT OF A 10 FOOT EASEMENT, AS DESCRIBED. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS REMAINED VACANT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SMALL STRUCTURES THAT YOU SEE THERE. THEY ARE, OF COURSE, DEALING WITH A TRACK, AS YOU WOULD SEE ON THE GRAPHICS, WHICH ARE BELOW ON THE REPORT THAT WOULD SHOW THAT TEN FOOT T FORMATTED EASEMENT IN EXHIBIT A. WITHIN THAT EXHIBIT, THAT EASEMENT WAS NEVER UTILIZED FOR UTILITIES WITHIN THE MIDDLE THAT I HAVE PRETTY MUCH BUBBLED THERE. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE REMOVED. THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD. HOWEVER, WE DID SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT TO ENSURE THAT THE EASEMENTS THAT WOULD ON BOARD OF THE PROPERTY ALONG THE PROPERTIES SIDELINES THAT THEY WOULD REMAIN EASEMENTS THAT WAY, [00:40:01] IF THERE ARE SOME FUTURE EXTENSION OF UTILITIES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE BY THE UTILITY COMPANIES THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. THE APPLICANT HAD NO ISSUES WITH THAT. WE, OF COURSE, DID ADVERTISE THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER. WE SENT REQUESTS FOR REVIEW TO THE UTILITY COMPANIES, INCLUDING TELEPHONE. WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS. AS I STATED, THERE ARE NO LINES THAT RUN WITHIN THIS EASEMENT. THE RECORDED INSTRUMENTS ARE ALL ATTACHED WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THOSE EASEMENTS. WHAT WOULD BE REMOVED BY SOME INSTRUMENT RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY, WOULD BE THE REMOVAL OF WHAT YOU SEE BUB UP THERE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> COMMISION [INAUDIBLE] OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> A SECOND THAT. MOTION SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGN BY SAYING AYEY. >> AYE. >> OPPOSING, SAME SIGN. WE'RE NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE PRESS THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION. >> NOW, THEY'RE A QUIET GROUP TONIGHT. THAT'S FOR SURE. FAR SO FAR YOU OPEN THIS UP TO EXCEPT FOR THE ITEM NUMBER 15 PUT THAT FIRST. >> CLEAR THIS ROOM. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED I'M SIGNED. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO. IT'S AN INACTIVE EASEMENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ABANDONING THE UNUSED UTILITY EASEMENT. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH TO APPROVE IT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW.THAT MOTION PASSES. NEXT. WE ARE OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. FINALLY. REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 12, [12. Discussion and possible action to approve Fire Department station repairs with existing bond funds. ] DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION REPAIRS WITH EXISTING BOND FUNDS. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M CHIEF GARCIA WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. THIS PRESENTATION OR THIS SPEECH I'M GOING TO GIVE TO YOU IS FOUR GOING TO BE FOR THE ANGLES FIRE DEPARTMENT BOND 2026. I RE C. THE OBJECTIVES THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THAT ONE, EDUCATE AWARENESS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S TOP EQUIPMENT AND REPAIR LIST TO THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER. SECOND THING WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS TO GAIN CITY SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OBTAINING AND REPAIRING THE TOP EQUIPMENT AND REPAIR ITEMS. I DO HAVE EIGHT ITEMS TO LIST, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. OUR FIRST ITEM IS GOING TO BE I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LIST THEM OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE FIRE STATION ONE ANTENNA TOWER, VIRTUALLY GENERATORS AT STATIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE. THE FRONT CONCRETE PAD A STATION ONE, THE REAR CONCRETE PAT STATION ONE, BUNKER GEAR, RADIOS AND PAGERS, AND OUR REAR PULL UP DOOR AT STATION TWO. I DID PROVIDE PICTURES FOR EACH ITEM FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND WE CAN EXPLAIN. FIRE STATION ONE'S TENANT TOWER. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IT'S GOING TO BE ON NORTH SHENANGO AND EAST MANGOL STREET ON THE CORNER. THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING IS STATION ATENAN TOWER IS OUTDATED AND HAS NEEDED SOME MAJOR REPAIRS. THE REPAIR COSTS ARE EXPENSIVE, AND THE CABLES NEED TO BE TIGHTENED, AND STRUCTURE BEAMS NEED TO BE REPAIRED. THOSE GUIDE CABLES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THAT. THOSE DO NEED TO BE REPAIRED. THE BEAMS THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT TWISTING ON THEM FROM PRIOR STORMS. NOW, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEASSEMBLE THE ANTENNA TOWER AND RELOCATE ALL THE EQUIPMENT TO THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT EQUIPMENT WOULD BE ALL OF OUR TRANSMISSION, RADIO TRANSMISSION EQUIPMENT, ANTENNAS, AND WHATNOT. WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS. THE INSPECTION ITSELF FROM OUR VENDOR IS GOING TO BE 11,000 JUST TO LOOK AT THE ANTENNA TOWER. FROM THAT VENDOR, IT'S ANYWHERE ESTIMATED UP TO ONE TO 20,000 TO FULLY REPAIR. WE DO HAVE AN I'M GOING TO QUOTE FOR SPENDING UP TO $19,591 FOR DISASSEMBLY AND RELOCATING ALL RADIO EQUIPMENT FROM STATION ONE TO THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TOWER. THE NEXT THING WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR AT STATION ONE. THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD IS THAT IT NEEDS A FULL MAINTENANCE TO BE PERFORMED. THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE ITEMS SUCH AS REPLACING THE BELT, [00:45:03] AIR FILTER, FRESH COOLING, AND CORROSION INHIBITOR. WE'RE GOING TO NEED OUR PCB BOARD TO BE REPLACED. WE HAVE A FEEL BLOCK HEATER, HEATER HOSES AND CLAMPS AND RADIO CAPS NEED TO BE REPAIRED, AND OF COURSE, REPLACE THE BATTERY CHARGER. OUR SOLUTION IS TO REPAIR ALL ITEMS. THE COSTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT WILL SPEND ROUGHLY $8,871.18. >> WHAT IS PCB? >> THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR PRINTED CONTROL BOARDS. >> DO YOU HAVE OR HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT HAVING A MAINTENANCE PLAN SINCE YOU WERE GOING TO KEEP THIS GENERATOR? >> THERE'S TALKS DEFINITELY ABOUT HAVING A MAINTENANCE PLAN TO KEEP THEIR UPCAE. PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, OF COURSE. >> YES, MA'AM. >> YOU DON'T HAVE THAT NOW? >> NO, MA'AM, NOT AT THE MOMENT. >> DO YOU ALL DO ANY OF IT YOURSELF? >> WE HAVE A VENDOR COME TO LOOK AT IT AND WE DON'T DO IT OURSELVES. >> WAS DAN KEEPING THIS HISTORICALLY? >> FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WE WERE ON THE CITY PROGRAM TO CALL ALL OF THEM [INAUDIBLE] >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME MAINTENANCE WAS PERFORMED? >> ANNUAL. >>YOU USE THE SAME VENDOR. >> WHO IS THE VENDOR CURRENTLY? SOMEBODY BACK THERE? >> KEEP GOING. YES. THE EMERGENCY GENERATORS AT FIRE STATION TWO AND THREE. THE PROBLEM, FIRE STATIONS TWO AND THREE HAVE NON FUNCTIONAL EMERGENCY DIESEL POWER GENERATORS. WHEN WE LOSE POWER, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING POWER TO OUR STATION, BAY DOORS, OUR COMMODITIES, AND OTHER CRITICAL EQUIPMENT. NOW, THIS CRITICAL EQUIPMENT IS OUR SHORELINES THAT PLUG INTO OUR FIRE APPARATUSES. THIS CHARGES OUR BATTERIES AND WHATNOT AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THOSE APPARATUSES. THIS CAN INCLUDE ANYTHING FROM GAS METERS TO EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE BATTERY POWER, EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT. OUR CURRENT MITIGATING STRATEGIES FOR ACCOMMODATING TO THIS PROBLEM IS ONE WE ATTACH A PORTABLE GENERATOR TO THE RECEPTLE OUT OUTLETS. FOR THOSE BREAKER PANELS, WE DO HAVE SELECTED BREAKERS THAT WILL SWITCH OFF. THIS IS EFFECTIVE, BUT IT ALSO COSTS A LOT OF TIME, ESPECIALLY IN RESPONSE. THE SECOND OPTION WE DO IS WE'LL DISABLE THE AUTO DOOR OPENER AND WE'LL OPEN THE DOORS MANUALLY. NOW, THESE DOORS ESPECIALLY THE ONES AT STATION THREE ARE VERY HEAVY, AND IT CAN BE DANGEROUS. OUR SOLUTION IS TO IMPROVE RELIABILITY BY REPLACING THE GENERATORS WITH NEW ONES. COST AND RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT IS SPEND 110,000, $950 TO REPLACE B GENERATORS. THAT IS A BALLPARK ESTIMATE. GOING BACK TO STATION ONE FOR THE FRONT CONCRETE PAD AND PARKING LOT. THERE'S SOME PICTURES THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CONCRETE PAD IS CRACKED AND UNLEVEL. THIS CAUSES THE PAD TO HOLD WATER. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT DIP RIGHT THERE, THAT SHENANGO STREET. THAT APRON IT'S NOT A LINE, SO IT'S A GOOD DIP RIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HOLDING A LOT OF WATER. THE PARKING LOT NEEDS CORRECT MATERIAL TOTIN HIGH TRAFFIC. THE UPPER FRONT IS DESTROYED DUE TO CONSISTENT VEHICLE TIRES WHEN THEY'RE TURNING, THEY'RE BREAKING UP THAT ASPHALT. THE PARKING LOT ITSELF IS GOING TO BE HOLDING WATER. OUR SOLUTION IS TO REPAIR THE FRONT CONCRETE PAD AND EXTEND THE PARKING LOT, THE LENGTH. NOW, WHAT I MEAN BY EXTENDING THE LENGTH, YOU CAN SEE IN THAT FRONT PITCHER RIGHT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THAT. THAT'S ABOUT TWO FEET. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE PARKING LOT ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT SIDEWALK. IT'S GOING TO EXTEND THE PARKING LOT AS WELL. >> WHAT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE? I KNOW SINCE IT HOLDS WATER. >> GETTING THAT LEVEL WITH OUR CONCRETE REPAIRS, AND, OF COURSE, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT PARKING LOT WITH IT BEING CRACKED AND NOT HAVING SO MANY POTHOLES, HOPING GOOD FLOW FOR WATER. >> WHERE IS HE GOING TO FLOW? >> THERE IS A DRAINAGE RIGHT THERE ON EAST MAGNOLIA MAGNOLIA SIDE. YES, SIR. ON THAT CORNER. >> [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE GOOD. >> [INAUDIBLE] AND HAD I'VE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE. >> I LOOKED AT IT. I THINK THE $50,000 IS GOING TO GO WE GOT EST AND THE DRAINAGE, TOO. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE DRAINAGE AS FAR AS THINK YOU MAYBE LIKE UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE. IT'S JUST ONCE THEY GET EVERYTHING LEVEL WITH THE DITCH LINE, THERE IS THE ORIGINAL DRAINAGE LINE IN THE ROADWAY GETS TO THAT CURB THAT POINTED OUT ONCE YOU GET IT TO THAT CURB IT'S GOING TO FLOW DOWN THE STREET. GET THERE CURRENTLY. >> QUESTION ON THIS. ADA COMPLIANCE. [00:50:01] DOES THIS GET INVOLVED ANY WITH THAT SIDEWALK RIGHT THERE AT THE EDGE OF IS IT MAGNOLIA? >> YES. >> SOME OF THAT BE FIXED AT THE SAME TIME AS COULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE ADA COMPLIANCE? >> GOOD. IT JUST DEPENDS IF THEY HAVE FUNDING TO REPLACE THAT ENTIRE SIDEWALK. >> IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HELP WITH? YES, TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THAT SIDEWALK ALL WAY TO THE CORNER. PROBABLY A NEED BRAND CAR BRAND AS WELL. >> IS IT TO LIVE FROM THREE FEET TO FOUR FEET? TO FIVE? WHAT IS IT? >> FOUR FOOT. >> BUT ALSO, I DON'T THINK IT EVEN I THINK THE GRADE HAS TO BE FIXED AS WELL, POSSIBLY. WEIRD KEEP GOING. >> YES, SIR. THOSE COSTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND SPEND $49,870 FOR FIXING REPAIRING THE CONCRETE PAD AND PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF STATION ONE. ALSO KNOWN AS THE WEST SIDE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THE REAR SIDE OF THE CONCRETE PAD OF STATION ONE IN THE PARKING LOT. FOR SOME PICTURES. IT'S A PROBLEM. CONCRETE PAD IS CRACKED, UNLEVELED, AND DOES HOLD WATER. THE CONCRETE IS GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'LL STOP PERFORMING TRUCK CHECKS, AERIAL TRUCKS. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT. WHEN WE EXTEND THE OUTRIGGERS, AND WE WILL BE PICKING UP 100 FOOT LADDER MAINLY ON OUR TOWER, THAT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THAT CONCRETE. IT'S UNKNOWN HOW THICK THAT CONCRETE IS. WE'RE THINKING MAYBE FOUR, AT LEAST FOUR. HOWEVER, IT IS GETTING CRACKED. THE NORTH FACING SIDEWALK NEEDS TO FOLLOW SAFETY COMPLIANCE. AS YOU SEE THAT THERE'S NO RAMPS. THAT'S THAT MIDDLE PICTURE RIGHT THERE. THERE IS A LOT OF HIGH TRAFFIC ON THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA. THAT WOULD INCLUDE GETTING THE RAMPS. I PUT A NOTE THERE FOR THE FRONT CONCRETE PAD, AND IT IS A NO GO FOR OUR TRUCK CHECKS DUE TO THE POWER LINES THAT WE HAVE RUNNING IN FRONT OF STATION ONE. OUR SOLUTION IS TO REPLACE BOTH THE REAR CONCRETE PAD AND PARKING LOT WITH THE CORRECT WITH CONCRETE. COSTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THE COST IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 95,340 TO FIX AND REPLACE. >> THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS FIRE BUNKER GEAR. THE PROBLEM, A LARGE AMOUNT OF OUR BUNKER GEAR IS GOING OUT OF SERVICE BY 2029. WE NEED TO START REPLACING THE CURRENT GEAR IN SMALL BATCHES, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE IN PHASES. THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS AND A LOT OF NEW RECRUITS. WE DID START A RECRUITING CAMPAIGN, AND WE ARE GETTING GOOD SUCCESS WITH THAT. OUR CURRENT MITIGATING STRATEGY RIGHT NOW FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS AND NEW RECRUITS IS GOING TO BE RENTING GEAR. THE SOLUTION IS TO PURCHASE NEW GEAR IN SMALL BATCHES UNTIL 2029. THE COST OF THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $50,000 FOR NEW GEAR FROM HERE TO 2029. THAT WILL GIVE US ABOUT TEN OUTFITS. RADIOS AND PAGERS. THE PROBLEM, ROUGHLY 15 MOTOROLA APX, 06,000 RADIOS NEED TO BE REPLACED. NOW, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE STILL IN USE. HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM IS PARTS REPLACEMENT. THE SELECT MODEL PARTS ARE BECOMING OBSOLTE AND UNREPLACABLE. SO IF THEY DO BREAK, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THEM. ANOTHER ISSUE IS OUR CURRENT RADIOS ARE NOT NFPA 1802 RATED, COMMUNICATION DEVICES FOR USE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE IN THE HAZARD ZONE. THEN, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE PAGERS FOR A GROWN DEPARTMENT. THE SOLUTION IS TO ORDER 15 RADIOS AND ORDER MORE PAGERS. THE COST OF RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT IS SPEND $143,472 ON RADIOS AND PAGES. THIS WILL GET US ABOUT 15 RADIOS AND A COUPLE OF PAGES. PAGES ARE ABOUT 500 A PIECE. >> WELL, JUST BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER ON THAT ONE. PD, I BELIEVE, HAS ASKED FOR RADIOS, TOO, CORRECT, CHIEF? >> YES, SIR, BUT DATA GIVES NO MONEY, HE GAVE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> SO WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS OUT THERE AS WELL. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU USE THE SAME DISPATCH SERVICE, AND IT'D BE NICE TO DO IT ALL TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW HOW PRIORITIZED THAT WOULD BE ON THIS ONE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN WE HAVE A NEED FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, BASICALLY. >> YES, SIR. THE ONLY RESPONSE THAT I HAVE FOR THAT IS THAT THAT'S A GRANT. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT. >> HAS ANYBODY TRIED TO GET A GRANT FOR THIS? >> I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME CURRENTLY. >> MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. >> YES, SIR. [00:55:03] >> THE NEXT ITEM'S GOING TO BE THE REAR PULL UP DOOR AT STATION 2. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE, THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY NICE PATINA LOOK. HOWEVER, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE MAJOR CORROSION IN THAT DOOR. THE PROBLEM IS FIRE STATION TWO'S REAR DOOR IS OUTDATED AND HAS SEVERE CORROSION. THE SOLUTION FOR THAT IS TO REPLACE AND INSTALL A NEW BAY DOOR. THE COST IS GOING TO BE $6,090 TO REPLACE THE REAR BAY DOOR. THAT DOOR DOES NOT HAVE AN OPENER. THAT'S CORRECT. THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, THEIR PRICES, AND WHAT THEIR TOTAL IS. AFTER THAT, THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. >> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE 500,000 THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE BAYS OVER THERE AND WE DID TALK TO THE BOND CONSULTANTS AND THEY TOLD US THAT THIS WOULD APPLY. THEY COULD DO MAINTENANCE ON THE FACILITIES. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR YOUR NEXT 5-10 YEARS? I MEAN, WHEN WE GO OUT FOR DEBT SERVICE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY LAST. USING THE BOND OR DEBT MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE IT'S SCARY BECAUSE GETTING THE NEW, CONCRETE ON THE FRONT AND THE BACK AND A NEW GENERATOR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I COULD SEE THOSE. BUT JUST DOING MAINTENANCE ON AN EXISTING GENERATOR, YOU'RE GOING OFF DEBT SERVICE MONEY TO DO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS REPAIRS. A BAD LOOK IN SOME CASES. THE DOOR STATION 2, PERFECT. I LIKE THAT. FIXING WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. IT HAS A LIFESPAN FOR IT. >> WHAT SPECIFIC WAY IT CONCERN YOU? >> FOR ME? IT WOULD BE THE GENERATOR ITEM NUMBER 2. I THINK WE SHOULD GET THAT IN OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION BUDGET AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. THE GENERATOR STATION TWO AND THREE. THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT. AND I THINK THAT'S A REPLACEMENT, ISN'T IT? >> YES, SIR. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE REPLACEMENTS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. THEN THE GEAR, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GEAR REAL QUICK. YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE ALL THE WAY UP TO 2029 TO GET THE NEW GEAR IN OR YOU WANT TO DO THIS ALL ONE FELL SWOOP AND HAVE IT? >> NOT ON ALL ONE FEEL SWOP. WE NEED TO ORDER THEM IN BATCHES. >> THAT'S 50,000 PER BATCH? >> YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO ORDER A FEW AT A TIME UP TO 2029. >> WELL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE YOU DON'T GO OUT OF COMPLIANCE ON ALL YOUR STUFF ALL AT ONCE. >> YES, SIR. >> I KNOW. WE WERE REPLACING GEAR AND BATCHES FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. LAST TWO YEARS WE [INAUDIBLE] >> WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPCY ON GEAR? >> THIS FALLS OUT OF COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? >> ABSOLUTELY. TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ON THE GENERATORS FOR TWO AND THREE. WE'VE BEEN KICKING THAT BALL DOWN THE ROAD. [INAUDIBLE] >> I'M GOOD IF IT'S A NEW GENERATOR. MAINTENANCE ON ONE. >> I'LL MATCH ON ITEM 2, PRIORITY TWO, GENERATOR 1. IF IT LOOKS LIKE ON PAPER, NOT A LARGE NUMBER, BUT INSTEAD, ALL WE'RE DOING IS BUYING TIME AND WE'RE BUYING IT WITH INTEREST. WHY NOT BUY IT WITH INTEREST AND FIX IT FOR GOOD. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THESE GENERATORS LAST. HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THE ONE AT TWO AND THREE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE? >> THE ONE ON STATION 1 [INAUDIBLE] IT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER INVESTMENT FOR US TO GO AHEAD. I KNOW IT'LL COST US MORE. I GET IT. I KNOW WHAT Y'ALL TRYING TO DO IS SQUEEZE IN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND GET A FIX, BUT [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, ONE MAY NOT NEED TO BE REPLACED. IT MAY JUST NEED TO BE PM. I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE ANTENNA. SKIPPING ONE, COVERING THAT M&O, REPLACING TWO AND THREE, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING, HOLDING OFF ON THE GEAR UNTIL WE CAN SHOVE THAT INTO A BUDGET, [01:00:04] AND EITHER LOOKING FOR A GRANT WHEN WE EXHAUST THAT OPTION ON NUMBER 7, THEN WE WILL LOOK AT BUDGETING THAT. JOHN? >> I AGREE WITH THAT. CHIEF VALDEZ, THERE IS TWO CHIEFS IN THE ROOM. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT GRANTS FOR THE RADIOS? >> YES, SIR. WE DID GET SOME RADIOS ON GRANTS HERE AT CITY HALL, WHEN THE PREVIOUS MERCHANT MANAGER WAS HERE AND WE GOT SOME GRANTS ON THAT. JOELY STEWART WENT TO HDAC GRANT, AND THEY DID FORWARD US SOME STUFF FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I HAVEN'T GOT TO GIVE TO THEM YET, BUT THERE'S SOME GRANTS AVAILABLE AS WELL. >> I WOULD SAY HOLD OFF ON THIS. MAYBE IF YOU NEED TO REPLACE THAT GENERATOR ON, MAYBE YOU COULD USE SOME OF THAT MONEY THERE, BUT I THINK A GRANT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. AND LAST YOU A LITTLE BIT LONGER. GET MORE RADIOS OR GET MORE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED FROM ITS? >> WE'RE NOT REPLACING A GENERATOR, THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED. >> AGREED. AND ITEM 1, YES OR NO? THE ANTENNA [OVERLAPPING]. >> YES, TO THE ANTENNA. YES TO NUMBER THREE, THE GENERATOR STATION TWO AND THREE, CONCRETE ON FOUR AND FIVE. WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR THE GEAR, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN THAT'S AIR TIGHT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. IF THEY NEED GEAR TO COVER FOR THE NEW RECRUITS, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND THAT MONEY AND SHOVEL THAT IN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. >> I AGREE. >> THE RADIOS AND PAGERS, CHIEF, HOW ABOUT YOU GET WITH CHIEF VALDEZ AND YOU'LL DISCUSS WHAT THE GRANTS LOOKED LIKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IF THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE AND YOU COME UP TO A DEAD END, COME BACK HERE AND WE'LL SORT THAT OUT. THE GEAR. MAYOR, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO HANDLE THAT? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON PRETTY QUICK. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THE RADIOS AND PAGERS, SHOULD THEY NOT BE ABLE TO GET FUNDING ON THAT? >> A GEAR THAT'S LISTED 50,000 GEAR. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO ACTUALLY GET WITH THAT? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? >> TEN SETS. >> FIVE SETS? ROUGHLY 10,000 SET. >> YOUR MITIGATING STRATEGY IS TO RENT GEAR. >> THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO. SO WE PURCHASED GEAR [INAUDIBLE] PURCHASE SOME. WE GOT A GRANT A SAFER GRANT. THE PROBLEM IS WE HAD TO PURCHASE THE GEAR AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED. WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THAT MONEY TO COME BACK TO US. IF THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO US BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET SESSION, WE CAN BUY [INAUDIBLE] >> WE WANT TO USE THIS $50,000 TO RENT GEAR? >> NO, TO PURCHASE, SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO RENT IT. >> THE NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN OUR M&O. >> WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST. >> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT TOO. >> WE'RE IN A PRETTY DIRE SITUATION AS FAR AS THE BUNKER YEAR IS CONCERNED. >> WE WILL GET THERE WHEN THE ROOKIES GET ALL OF THEIR SCHOOLING AND THEY COME UP WITH PROHIBITION. >> IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS WITHIN THE LEAD TIME FOR PLACING AN ORDER BASED ON THIS APPROVAL, YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING OUT TO RENT GEAR. >> I SAY WE SEND IT NOW. BUT WE HAVE TO PULL THE NEXT 50,000 INTO THE M&O. [BACKGROUND] >> UNDERSTOOD. YOU GUYS WORK AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET SOME RADIOS AND PAGERS GRANTED AND IF YOU CAN'T AND YOU EXHAUST THAT OPTION, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. [01:05:01] I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING, BUT THE RADIOS AND PAGERS AND NUMBER 2, UNLESS YOU GUYS CAN'T FUND IT IN YOUR M&O, IN WHICH CASE WE WILL. HANG ON, DO YOU ALL HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND THE EIGHT GRAND? [BACKGROUND] I'LL JUST MAKE IT CONDITIONAL ON YOU GUYS COVERING IT, BUT IF YOU COME BACK AND YOU CAN'T, THEN IT'LL BE INCLUDED IN THIS. YOU'LL GET ALL THE ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RADIOS AND PAGERS CONTINGENT ON YOU GUYS GETTING GRANT FUNDING, IF YOU DON'T, WE'LL COME BACK ON THAT. >> WE HAVE A SECRET WEAPON. HER NAME IS SUSY. >> YOU'VE GIVING HER A HEART ATTACK RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT GETTING STUFF OUT OF M&O. >> ACTUALLY, LET'S BACK UP FROM THIS. WHEN THEY'RE INSTALLING THESE GENERATORS, IT'S THE SAME COMPANY THAT DOES THE PMS ON GENERATOR NUMBER 1? HECTOR, DO YOU KNOW? [OVERLAPPING]. THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ALREADY OUT HERE INSTALLING GENERATORS, THEY MIGHT AS WELL PM THIS THING AT THE SAME TIME. >> MY QUESTION IS, HECTOR, DO WE HAVE A PROGRAM FOR OUR GENERATORS RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I SEE IN 2024 THAT IT WAS A PACKAGE DEAL FOR 15 GRAND FOR UNDERWATER COLLECTION BY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT. >> YES, WE ARE DOING ANNUAL PMS ON ALL THE GENERATORS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS PAST YEAR DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, AND WE ONLY GET $50,000 FOR WHAT'S CONSIDERED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GENERATORS. WE HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THAT. THERE'S ONLY $50,000 IN THERE. THAT'S ENOUGH TO DO THE PMS FOR ALL OF OUR GENERATORS ALL THE LIFT STATIONS, WATER PLANTS, ALL THOSE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO RUN IN TWO TO THREE REPAIRS A YEAR ANYWHERE FROM $10-20 THOUSAND WORTH OF REPAIRS. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. AND SO FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE ALL INCLUDED IN THAT, BUT PMS WEREN'T BEING DONE. THEN SO WE STARTED THAT PROGRAM, AND I THINK WE TOOK CARE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT MAYBE ONE OR TWO YEARS, BUT THEN WE COULDN'T SUSTAIN IT. WE GOT QUOTES ON EVERYTHING AND PASSED THEM ON TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SEE IF THEY COULD FUND THEM. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. BUT AS FAR AS PUBLIC WORKS GENERATORS, THAT'S WE TAKE CARE OF THAT WITH THAT $50,000 THAT'S IN OUR M&O. >> WELL, AND I THINK MY ASK WOULD BE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS TAKE CARE OF THEIR EMERGENCY POWER SUPPLY. IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY TO TAKE TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY'S ITEMS. I'M NOT SAYING THEY COULDN'T. BUT IF YOU GUYS COULD CAPTURE THAT IN YOUR BUDGET, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ALREADY, I DON'T KNOW. >> YES. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING THE BIDS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. JUST DIVVY UP THE COST TO EACH DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT. LIKE I SAID, WE DID IT THIS PAST YEAR. WE GATHERED THEM ALL AND PASSED THEM [OVERLAPPING]. >> I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU, HECTOR. >> GENERATED AND WILL BE INSTALLED, SAME THING. >> I'M SORRY. >> BY THE SAME COMPANY. >> I GOT YOU. THE ONLY REASON WHY I SUGGESTED, IF WE HAD TO CHANGE OUT THAT GENERATOR STATION ONE BECAUSE OF THE M&O SIDE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THIS AND ONCE YOU GO INTO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, WHAT ARE THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU? TYPICALLY, IT'S GOING TO NEED MORE SERVICE OR MORE WORK. IF IT'S GOING TO BE A MONEY DRAIN, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING WHATEVER THE COST OF A NEW ONE WOULD BE ON THAT GENERATOR. IF IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD LAST OVER THE LIFESPAN OF THE DEBT AS OPPOSED TO SPENDING 30,000, $50,000 IN REPAIRS IN THE NEXT TWO YEAR, THEN I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA OF A NEW GENERATOR. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT. NOT THAT IF IT'S PERFECTLY FINE, WE SHOULDN'T BE REPLACING IT. I AGREE. >> THEN THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, ARE WE GOING TO COVER NUMBER 1 ITEM NUMBER 2 IN THIS AS WELL? >> I LIKE YOUR IDEA, THOUGH. LET'S SEE IF THEY CAN REPAIR IT AND COVER IT IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE OTHER ONES. SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT LIMP ALONG FOR THE NEXT 5, [01:10:02] 10 YEARS, WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED REPAIR COST ON IT? I NEED MORE NUMBERS. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I NEED NOW. HOW MUCH LIFE DOES IT HAVE LEFT ACCORDING TO THE MAINTENANCE TEXTS? ARE WE ON BORROWED TIME? ARE WE GOING TO BE SPENDING THIS MONEY SOON? >> GOING TO SIT UP IN THE CORNERS [INAUDIBLE]. >> THE ONE AT STATION 1? >> THAT WORRIES ME. THAT'S OUR MAIN STATION. >> [OVERLAPPING] SUGGESTED THAT. >> WELL, DID YOU GET A LOOK AT STATION 3? IT IS PROBABLY OLDER THAN US. >> I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SIDE OF DEBT AND INTEREST AND WHAT THE END PAYMENT IS. WHAT WE SEE ON PAPER HERE IS THIS THEN YOU START MILITATING THAT OUT 30 YEARS OR HOW MANY YEARS WE'RE PAYING A DEBT ON IT. FOR WHAT? I I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR MONEY. >> WELL, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO EXPAND THE FIRE STATION. >> I DID TOO. BUT WELL, WE HAVE ANOTHER FIRE STATION COMING, YES. >> STATION 4. >> STATION 4. WON'T STATION 4 BE FUNDED FROM THE SD? THE CITY'S NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON THAT STATION, ARE WE, ON STATION 4? BECAUSE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY. >> THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN THERE. >> I AGREE THAT STATION 1 ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE, AND WE'VE GOT TO BRING IT UP TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. I LIKE THE IDEAS THAT YOU COME WITH AND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING. SOME OF IT, I THINK WE GOT TO JUST BE CAREFUL AND MINDFUL OF, AS MAYER PRO TEM TOWNSEND SAID, WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY AND PAYING INTEREST ON A DEBT. IF WE'RE BUYING SOME OF THIS STUFF AND IT WON'T EVEN LAST THE DEBT SERVICE, THEN WE'RE THROWING MONEY OUT THE WINDOW. DON'T TAKE THIS ONE THE WRONG WAY, BUT WHATEVER WE CAN SAVE OUT OF HERE. WHILE THIS IS EARMARKED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE 500,000, THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE CITY. IF WE CAN FIND ANY AREAS TO SAVE ON THIS ONE, WE CAN RE-USE THAT MONEY FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE NEED IT AS WELL. NOT TO SAY THAT THIS LIST IS IMPORTANT, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS ALL THESE ITEMS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND THE 500,000 ALL IN ONE FELL SWOOP. THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER AREAS WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN A BETTER POSITION FINANCIALLY IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO GO OUT FOR ANOTHER DEBT SERVICE WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS MORE THINGS. THAT'S JUST FROM WHERE I'M THINKING OF, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE NEEDING A LOT OF THINGS, SO. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT OUR MOTION IS. >> THE MOTIONS ALREADY BEEN MADE BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND YET. >> I'LL RUN THROUGH IT AGAIN. I'LL RETRACT MY MOTION. NUMBER 1, THE ANTENNA. NUMBER 3, GENERATORS AT STATIONS 2 AND 3. FOUR THE CONCRETE, FIVE, THE CONCRETE, SIX THE GEAR, AND EIGHT THE DOOR AT STATION 2. >> GOT IT. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH, FOR APPROVAL OF THE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 PRIORITY ITEMS, EXCLUDING TWO, EXCLUDING SEVEN. >> SEVEN. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? YOUR FIRST WEEK ON THE JOB AND YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING TO PRESENT AND YOU GOT APPROVAL ON SOME STUFF. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. >> COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE CLEAR THAT THAT WORK CLEAR. THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS IS, WE'RE STILL HERE TO WORK WITH YOU. WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO GET ON. FOR ME, THE CONCERN ON ON ITEM 2, THE GENERATOR AT 1 IS I WANT US TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT GOING ALL THE WAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT FIXING IT. FOR LIKE JOHN SAID, THE DURATION OF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR A LOAN. I WANT TO BE PAYING DEBT AND INTEREST ON THAT DEBT 25 YEARS AFTER IT'S EXPIRED. [01:15:01] IT'S JUST BAD USING PUBLIC FUNDS IN MY OPINION. THEN AS FAR AS THE RADIOS AND THE PAGERS, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU. LET'S WORK TO GET THESE OTHER ITEMS ACCOMPLISHED AS WELL. THEN LET'S BRING THE GEAR BACK INTO THE BUDGET. >> YES, SIR. >> WE'RE MAKING BUDGETARY HEADWAY, AND THERE'S BRIGHT DAYS AHEAD OF US. I'M ABSOLUTELY SURE OF IT. >> YES, SIR. >> IF I GAVE YOU EVERYTHING, THEN THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD COME ON HOLD THIS TOO. >> WELL, IN OUR DEFENSE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN BACK DOOR FOR A WHILE, SO. >> YOU-ALL BEEN EXTREMELY PATIENT. >> YES. >> I KNOW YOU-ALL CHANGED PLANS, BUT YOU-ALL HAVE BEEN PATIENT. I'VE BEEN WONDERING WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GET AROUND TO TAKING CARE OF THIS PART OF THE BOND. >> GOOD. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANKS FOR BRINGING THE MUSCLE TONIGHT, TOO [LAUGHTER]. >> IT WAS A JOKE, O'BRIEN. >> I'M GOOD. >> PUBLIC SPEAKING ISN'T OPEN. WE ASK FOR REVIEW [LAUGHTER]. >> I'M GOING TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 16 UP. [16. Discussion and possible action on a request for a fee waiver or reduction for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) application for a Recreational Vehicle (RV) temporary storage for medical purposes at 202 South Walker Street, Angleton, Texas.] GO AHEAD AND TALK ON ITEM NUMBER 16, REAL QUICK. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A FEE WAIVER OR REDUCTION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, TEMPORARY STORAGE FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES AT 202 SOUTH WALKER STREET, ANGLETON, TEXAS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNSEL. THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU MRS. LAURA GREEN, WHO IS A RESIDENT HERE AT THE ADDRESS, NOTED, IS DEALING WITH SOME MEDICAL ISSUES, AND HER CAREGIVER, HER DAUGHTER HAD TO PLACE AN RV ON THE PROPERTY FOR AN EMERGENCY HOUSING SITUATION. THE ITEM TONIGHT IS SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH THE FEE WAIVER REQUEST OR REDUCTION. CURRENTLY, SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, AS WILL BE REQUIRED IN THIS INSTANCE, COSTS APPROXIMATELY $1,025. THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME WAIVER OF THAT AMOUNT DUE TO HARDSHIP. SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE THIS EVENING. STAFF WILL JUST ALERT THE COUNSEL THAT THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS OUT OF OUR CONTROL, SUCH AS THE LEGAL AID IN WHICH THOSE COULD RANGE LOWER 200. IF LEGAL HAS TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT OR ANY NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. AS YOU SEE ON THE AGENDA COVER THAT 01,025 WOULD BE REDUCED BY ANY AMOUNT APPROVED BY THE COUNSEL, BUT WE WANTED JUST TO ALERT YOU OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO DO BY REQUIREMENTS. STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS ITEM, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH OVER A MONTH, IN WHICH IT HAS TO GO TO THE SPECIFIC USE FOR APPROVAL IN THIS INSTANCE IN THAT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. >> [INAUDIBLE], BEFORE YOU GO. >> YES, SIR. >> CAN WE WAIVE THE FEE AND ADDRESS THE SUP IN THE SAME MOTION? >> NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE CAN ONLY DO THE FEE WAIVER TONIGHT? >> SPECIFIC USE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE NOTICE. THERE ARE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED AND WE COULD NOT PROCESS THE APPLICATION DUE TO INCOMPLETENESS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WOULD BE THE METHOD, AND THEN WE COULD POSSIBLY BRING IT BACK ON IN A MONTH BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION, UNFORTUNATELY. >> IT CAN GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALL IT NEEDS. YOU-ALL ARE RIGHT. >> THAT'S HOW I FEEL. >> THERE WON'T BE ANY LEGAL FEES ON THAT. >> WHAT WAS THAT? >> THERE WON'T BE ANY LEGAL FEES ON THAT. >> YEAH, STAFF WOULD PAIR THE ORDINANCE, AND WE CAN PRETTY MUCH GET IT DONE PRETTY QUICKLY. >> REIN, YOU-ALL CAME ALL THIS WAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? NO. YOU'RE GOOD? NOW, I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT. COUNSEL, DO I HAVE ANY ACTION THAT WE CAN TAKE ON WAIVING THIS FEE? [01:20:01] >> CAN I STATE SOMETHING? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THIS MAY GO OVER POORLY. THIS IS A STANDING OPERATING PROCEDURE. WHAT VERIFICATIONS DO WE GO THROUGH? >>THERE ARE, OF COURSE, SOME HIPA PROTECTIONS IN TERMS OF THE REASONING BEHIND THE MEDICAL CONDITION, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE DESCRIBED IT AS WE HAVE. >> I UNDERSTAND. BUT I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, AND MAYBE IT'S PROBABLY WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. I SEE FRAUD. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THIS CASE. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST. BUT WHAT STEPS ARE TAKEN? TRUST BUT VERIFY, THAT SORT OF THING. >> RIGHT. WELL, TYPICALLY, WHEN WE RECEIVE THE APPLICATIONS, WE CHARGE THE FEE BASED ON THE ORDINANCE, AND ORDINANCE STATES THAT COUNSEL IS THE ONLY BODY THAT CAN WAIVE ANY FEE REQUIREMENTS. IN TERMS OF VETTING THE HARDSHIP ITSELF, THAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU AND THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT HARDSHIP IS TRUE AND ACCURATE. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT STAFF WOULD DO BEYOND THAT. LEGAL CAN CORRECT ME, BUT YOU'RE JUST DEALING WITH A FEE REQUEST BY ORDINANCE. THAT WAIVER, WE DO NOT HAVE A THRESHOLD THAT WE CAN WAIVE FEES AT THE STAFF LEVEL. >> IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO VET THE SITUATION. >> NOW, IF THERE'S INSTANCES WHERE YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCES FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING WITH THE PARTICULAR REASONS, THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT. THAT WAY, WE COULD EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS A LITTLE QUICKER. BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT TO REMOVE THE UNIT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE WERE AFFORDING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A COMPLETE REQUEST. >> I'M NOT NECESSARY WORRIED ABOUT THIS CASE. I'M THINKING BIG PICTURE. >> WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE EXIST FOR TO MAKE THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> TO WEED OUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD BE WATCHING THIS AND SAY, I'M GOING TO PLAN AN RV IN MY YARD AND FOR WHATEVER REASON. IT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD. KEEP IN MIND, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING. THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DO. IT'S THE UGLY NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS WHERE WE MITIGATE THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY REAR THEIR HEAD AT A LATER DATE BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY OR YESTERDAY. >> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME. >> NO, I'M NOT TRYING TO ASK THAT. WE HAVE TO JUST AS HE SAID, IT'S NOT JUST ONE DECISION. ONCE YOU MAKE A DECISION, THERE'S A SET OF PRECEDENTS IN PLACE, AND THE PRECEDENTS WOULD BE RELIED UPON OTHERS. I'M JUST TRYING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE TAKING STEPS THAT WHEN WE'RE WAIVING FEES OR CHANGING. >> IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. >> I UNDERSTAND CAN WE CAN LIMIT IT. I GET THAT. >> THIS IS COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND'S WAY OF PROVIDING A DISCLAIMER FOR EVERYONE ELSE. I'M TOTALLY WITH THAT TRAVIS BECAUSE I DO IT CONSTANTLY. >> YOU GOT THREE NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT, THOUGH, SO WE ALL KNOW. I'M COUNTING PASTOR [INAUDIBLE] HERE, WHO'S YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY? >> YEAH, I JUST THINK IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO AN ORDINANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN WRITE, I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE ARE POSSIBLE ABUSES. I'M JUST SAYING AND LIKE YOU SAID, SOMEBODY COULD BE WATCHING RIGHT NOW. >> WELL, AND THAT'S A SPECIFIC THAT'S THAT'S REALLY AT THE AT THE HEART OF THE SUP IS THAT THEY'RE APPROVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FOR SPECIAL USE. >> CASE BY CASE. CHECK IT OUT. IF YOU GET A WHOLE SLEW OF THEM, THEN YOU KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM. >> I GUESS ALL WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT IS JUST APPROVING. >> WAIVING THE FEE OR REDUCING THE FEE. >> NO. WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE THE FEE. >> [OVERLAPPING] LEGAL SAID THEY WOULDN'T CHARGE ANYTHING, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR TOWNSON SECONDED BY [OVERLAPPING] YOU MADE THE MOTION, SHE SECONDED, WE CAN STILL HAVE DISCUSSION. >> WHATEVER. [01:25:01] >> BUT YOUR MOTION AND YOUR SECOND IS TO WAIVE THE FEE ALTOGETHER. >> YES. >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. >> I REALLY DON'T. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]. >> FIGHT. >> IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNSEL, CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SUBMIT BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> JUMP BACK TO ITEM 13 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ACCEPTING UTILITY MASTER PLAN. [13. Discussion and possible action accepting the Utility Master Plan. ] JOHN, YOU'RE HIDING BACK THERE? >> YES, SIR. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED THE UTILITY MASTER PLAN IN THE OCTOBER COUNCIL MEETING. DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING, WE WERE DISCUSSING WATER SUPPLY FOR FUTURE DEMANDS. AT THAT TIME, HDR HAD RECOMMENDED DUE TO THE POTENTIAL OF A POTENTIAL SUBSIDES DISTRICT IN THE NEXT 20, 30 YEARS COMING IN THAT CAN LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GROUNDWATER BEING PUMPED, POTENTIALLY GOING AHEAD AND SECURING WATER WHILE IT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH BWA. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD BEEN TALKING WITH HECTOR ABOUT REHABILITATING ALL THE WELLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER WATER USING THE EXISTING WATER. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE CAME BACK AND ACTUALLY AMENDED THIS TO HAVE OPTION A AND OPTION B, 1A, 1B. 1A BEING THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION OF PURCHASING BWA WATER AND SUPPLEMENTING THAT WITH THE WELL CAPACITY, ADDITIONAL WELL CAPACITY BEING BROUGHT ON 2050, 2052, 2058, 2063, 2068. THE OTHER ONE IS OPTION B WOULD BE TO BRING ON FIVE ADDITIONAL WELLS TO MEET THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY PRIOR TO PURCHASING BWA. THAT IS OPTION B, WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE WAS, SO WE HAVE THAT IN HERE. WE'VE GOT THE COST IN HERE TO HAVE THAT. I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL ADDRESS SHELL'S CONCERNS ON THAT WILL MEET THE FUTURE DEMANDS GOING ON AS PROJECTED NOW. AGAIN, WE NEED TO COME BACK EIGHT, NINE YEARS, TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SEE IF THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAD ARE REALLY IS IT ACCELERATING? IS IT WHERE WE THOUGHT IT AS TO BE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S DECLINING TO WHERE? WE CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY. THE OTHER THING THAT COUNSEL WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE POTENTIAL OF OTHER WATER SOURCES THAT THE CITY COULD LOOK INTO OTHER THAN PURCHASING WATER FROM BWA. WE WENT BACK AND I PULLED THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD THAT WE HAD BROUGHT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, AND IT HAD AN EVALUATION PORT PART IN IT. IT WAS ACTUALLY REMOVED TO REDUCE COSTS OF THE SCOPE. HOWEVER, I WENT AHEAD AND WENT BACK THROUGH ALL OF OUR STATE WIDE HDR COMPANIES AND FOUND SOME THINGS TO GIVE YOU ALL WHAT MAGNITUDE SCALE OF EACH POTENTIAL PROCESS IS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT EACH ONE WOULD BE. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, YOU PURCHASE BWA WATER, AND I BELIEVE, FROM WHAT I FOUND, IS $4.60 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE? >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> LOOKING AT THE CITY OF LUBBOCK, WE FINISHED UP THEIR PLAN WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE RAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH WATER. THEY HAVE TO USE DIRECT POTABLE REUSE, WHERE IT'LL GO THROUGH THE TREATMENT PLAN FOR TERTIARY PLANTS, MIXED BACK IN WITH THE WATER THAT THEY RECEIVE, RAN THROUGH THE DRINKING WATER PLANT AGAIN. THAT COST IS $11 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. ALSO, WE WENT AND LOOKED AT IN WEST TEXAS OR CENTRAL TEXAS, I'M SORRY, WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING AT DOING SOME BRACKISH DIESEL. ALL THESE THINGS ARE MAGNITUDE OF SCALES. THE ONLY ONE I COULD FIND THAT WOULD BE KIND OF CLOSE TO WHAT ANGLETON WOULD BE IS A FOUR MGD DIESEL PLANT. THAT COMES OUT TO BE $12 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. AGAIN, IT'S SIGNIFICANT COST MORE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED IS THE USE OF PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM, WHICH IS WATER REUSE. IT'S NOT POTABLE, BUT COULD BE USED FOR CUSTOMERS THAT WANT TO DO IRRIGATIONS LIKE ANY KIND OF PARKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. [01:30:01] WHILE THAT COST GOES DOWN, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT WHAT'S REQUIRED TO GET THAT OUT TO THAT CUSTOMER, YOU GO TO NEED A STORAGE TANK. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A BOOSTER PUMP SYSTEM. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. ALL THOSE COSTS ADD UP TO WORK, REALLY NOT FISCALLY SOUND TO HAVE THAT. NOW, HECTOR HAD A GREAT IDEA, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT IS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, YOU ALL USE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF POTABLE WATER AND SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT DOES. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT COULD SAVE THE CITY SOME MONEY IS RE UTILIZING SOME OF THE WATER THAT YOU'RE RELEASING BACK INTO THE BAYOU FOR THOSE FUNCTIONS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT. SO THAT IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO SAVE WATER AND USING THE WATER AGAIN, BUT IT'S NOT POTABLE. IT HASN'T BEEN THROUGH TERTIARY TREATMENT TO WORK IT EVEN BE USED FOR IRRIGATION. IT'S JUST STRICTLY IN THE PLANT. >> DO WE IRRIGATE ANY OF OUR PARKS? DO WE WATER ANYTHING AT OUR PARKS? >> YES. WE DO HAVE IT AT SOME, SO MAIN ONES I THINK ABOUT IS LIKE OUR FIELD. SOFTBALL, BASEBALL FIELDS HAVE IRRIGATION ON THEM. THERE IS MINOR IRRIGATION AT SOME OF THE OTHERS, MAINLY MORE OF THE LANDSCAPE AREAS. LAKESIDE PARK DOES HAVE IRRIGATION AND THEN OUR UPCOMINGS WILL HAVE, BUT NOT THE FULL PARK BY ANY MEANS. >> PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THAT WATER THERE. THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM, YOU'VE GOT AN ENTIRE SEPARATE SYSTEM OF NON POTABLE WATER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> DOUBLING YOUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S NON PORTABLE WATER, BUT IF YOU HAD LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL USER NEEDED A LOT OF WATER. AT THAT POINT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO GO ON. >> I KNOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT AND RAIN BARRELS. YOU GOT TO COUNT ON THAT RAIN. >> YES, MA'AM. >> ALWAYS DO THAT? >> I BELIEVE I'VE ADDRESSED EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. AGAIN, THE REASON WHY THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS TO PURCHASE BWA WATER WAS, AGAIN, IS GALVESTON COUNTY, FORT BEND COUNTY, HARRIS COUNTY, ALL THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES DO HAVE A SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT AND THE GROWTH OF POPULATION THAT'S GOING ON IN MISSOURI COUNTY AND THE AMOUNT OF STRESS THAT'S BEING PUT ON THE AQUIFERS. I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'VE TALKED TO THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT. IT'S NOT IN THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS. IT'S GOING TO BE COMING. WE'RE THE ONLY COUNTY DOWN HERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ONE, THAT WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WATER YOU CAN PUMP. >> MORE THE REASON TO DO THIS NOW? >> YOU CAN DO IT NOW, GET YOUR DEMAND UP AND THEN START SUPPLEMENTING IT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE GROWING LIKE SO THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO START SECURING THOSE WATER RIGHTS. THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF WATER, THERE'S TALKS ABOUT BRINGING THE DIESEL PLAN ON THAT CAN HELP POTENTIALLY HELP AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. >> WE PAID FOR THAT 10 YEARS AGO. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. >> WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IF COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I THINK I'VE ADDRESSED THEM IS TO ACCEPT THE UTILITY MASTER PLAN, WHICH WILL ALLOW ME TO BRING A PROPOSAL TO WHERE YOU CAN CREATE A CITYWIDE IMPACT FEE TO START FORMALIZING HOW MUCH WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN, HOW MUCH THEY HAVE TO PAY IN FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED IN THE CITY TO SERVE THEM. >> JOHN, I'M LOOKING AT ALL THIS AND I SEE A LOT OF THESE, I'M GUESSING YOU JUST YOU JUST PUT THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER FOR THE WHOLE PACKAGE. ULTIMATELY, I WAS CURIOUS, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SIFT THROUGH THIS. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION HERE AND JUST RATTLE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE LOOK AND SEE WHAT. BASICALLY, THIS ALL STEAL ENTAILS I GUESS I'M A LITTLE SCATTERED RIGHT NOW, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST FOR US DID YOU ALL GET ANY NUMBERS TOGETHER ON WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST TO REMEDIATE THOSE WELLS? AM I MISSING THAT? >> ABOUT $80,000. >> EACH? >> THAT'S JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM, JUST TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY REHABILITATE THOSE TWO THAT WE DISCUSSED PRIOR, THAT YOU BEEN OFFLINE FOR A LONG TIME AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT NOW, SO WE SHOULD BE FINDING OUT TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY, BEGINNING OF MARCH WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SALVAGE THOSE WELLS OR NOT. [01:35:04] >> ALREADY HAD THAT MONEY ON THE SIDE? >> CORRECT. >> YOU ALREADY STARTED. >> I'M NOT GIVING YOU TOO MUCH OF A HARD TIME, JOHN, BUT I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A COMMERCIAL FOR BWA. >> NO, SIR. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY I WAS THERE. >> THAT'S OUR WATER PLANNER WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT. >> IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GO WITH SURFACE WATER AS FAR AS LONG RANGE FUTURE. >> THAT SURFACE WATER SUCKS. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. I GOT THAT STUFF IN MY HOUSE, AND I HATE TO EVEN BATHE IN IT. >> YEAH. THAT'S JUST WHERE EVERYTHING GOES ONCE THE CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE SINKING BECAUSE OF SUBSIDENCE. >> THE PROBLEM WITH RELYING THE SURFACE WATER AND THE LONG TERM PLANNING. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS BEING ACCOUNTED FOR, JOHN, IS THE WATER QUALITY IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AS WE'RE AT THE END OF THE RIVER. THERE'S LESS WATER COMING DOWN THE [INAUDIBLE], AND THE QUALITY'S WORSE BECAUSE IT'S BEING DUMPED BACK DOWN FROM UPSTREAM PLANTS. IT'S HARD TO RELY ON THAT WATER WHEN WE HAVE NO GUARANTEES IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE BILLION OTHER RETENTION AREA AND EXPANDING THAT LOCATION. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY HAS GOT TO START LOOKING AT YOU TALK ABOUT THE COSTS FOR LUBBOCK AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED WAS, WHAT'S THE COST OF IF WE RAN A PIPE FROM FROM GALVESTON COUNTY OR FROM ONE OF THE OTHER ENTITIES. YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT IN HERE, DID YOU? >> NO, SIR. THAT WAS PULLED OUT, LIKE I SAID. SO I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU ALL WENT AHEAD AND TRIED TO DO SOME OTHER DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROCESS. >> I'M VERY CONCERNED OF RELYING ON BWA FOR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. >> I WANT OUR WELLS ONLINE TO AT LEAST TRY TO DILUTE THE ABSOLUTE CRAP THAT WE USE [OVERLAPPING] AND SUBSIDENCE DISTRICTS. THE EXAMPLE THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN RECENTLY IS A CITY THAT WAS BUILT ON A SWAMP. I'M SURE IT'S A THING, BUT EVERY EXAMPLE THAT I'M GIVEN IS A COASTAL CITY THAT'S SINKING IN INTO ITS OWN MUD. >> I CAN GIVE YOU ONE BECAUSE I JUST FOUND INTO, IT IS THE CITY OF BEL AIR. WE'RE REDOING A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. >> BEL AIR IS NOT FAR OFF FROM THE PESTILENTIAL SWAMP THAT IS HOUSTON? >> CORRECT. BUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FROM THE LATE 1950S TO NOW HAS SUBSIDED, TWO FOOT OVER TWO FOOT. IT IS SOMETHING GOING ON. I DO THINK IT'S A SOLID PLAN BY DOING THE WELLS. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD PLAN. THAT'S WHY WE NAMED IT 1B. >> IT SHOULD BE 1A. >> I WILL GO BACK AND CHANGE IT FROM 1A THEN. >> YES. >> I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT OVER EVERYBODY ELSE HERE. AS I RECALL THE REASON WE WENT TO BWA IN THE FIRST PLACE [INAUDIBLE] OVERDOING IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO AT ALL. IT'S GREAT WATER. WHAT YOU YOU KNOW REPLACE IT. [INAUDIBLE] WELL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM, THAT WAS WHAT THEY DID IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT THEY MADE FOR DOING IT. >> WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU CAN PUT TRESTLE ON THAT WELL, BUT YOU DO GET ONE. >> IT'S TRUE. >> LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH MISSOURI COUNTY CONSERVATION DISTRICT. RIGHT NOW, THE AQUIFERS, THEY DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES FOR 20, SOME WORK FOR THEM. >> TWO TEST WELLS JUST IN ANGLETON ALONE, TESTING SUBSIDE ALL THE TIME, AND THOSE HAVE SHOWN. >> NO MOVEMENT. >> EXTREMELY MINIMAL MOVEMENT LIKE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN CONCERNED WITH. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE STAYED 15, 20 YEARS, WE'RE DEFINITELY SAFE BEFORE WE EVER GET INTO ALL THAT. >> WELL, HERE'S THE THING. WE'RE CLOSE TO SEA LEVEL. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WATER FLOWING BACK THROUGH THE SAND LAYERS AND DESALINIZING ITSELF. >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE INCREASED OUR SUPPLY FROM BWA? WAS IT 2019? >> IT WAS 2021 [INAUDIBLE] MILLION TO 2.3 MILLION. [01:40:01] >> I FOUND A MEMO FROM AUGUST OF 2019, THAT IT WAS WHEN WE DID 85% FROM THEM, AND IT HAS SOME SCARY NUMBERS FIXING WELL 6 AND WELL 7. I SAID THE REHABILITATIONS WERE 1.4 FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND 800 GRAND FOR THE BEST. BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A MUCH SMALLER NUMBER. >> JUST CONTEST THEM TO SEE IF THEY ARE SALVAGEABLE. THAT'S THE NUMBER, IT GOES BETWEEN $800 AND $1.4 MILLION TO REHABILITATE BOTH THOSE. THOSE ARE JUST ESTIMATES. BUT ONCE WE DO THIS INITIAL PROCESS, WE'LL NARROW THAT DOWN TO AN ACTUAL NUMBER OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST FOR BOTH OF THOSE VERSUS DRILLING A BRAND NEW WELL. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 1.8, POSSIBLY $2 MILLION AT THIS POINT, TO DRILL ONE NEW WELL. TO SALVAGE TWO FOR THAT COST, EVEN AT THE HIGH END, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. >> THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH NOT DOING IT IS THE FACT THAT IF WE DON'T, WE'RE AT THE MARKET, YOU DON'T HAVE AN OPTION. I BELIEVED A LOT FOR, I DON'T LIKE NOT HAVING OPTIONS. >> WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE AGAIN FOR RUNNING A NEW LINE FROM BWA? >> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO FOR ANY [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT WAS RIGHT 2 MILLION. >> IT WAS 2 MILLION? IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER. >> IN 2019, IT WAS 2.1 MILLION. >> YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH, GET THESE WELLS ONLINE. AGAIN, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, OUR TRANSFER LINE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS WHAT WE FEED OUR POTABLE WATER THROUGH BWA FROM ONE PLANT TO THE OTHER. ALL THESE WELLS ARE TIED INTO THAT SAME LINES. YOU CAN'T PUMP RAW WATER INTO TREATED WATER. ALL OF IT BECOMES RAW WATER AT THAT POINT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THOSE TRANSFER LINES, AND WE'LL USE THE EXISTING ONES TO TRANSFER ALL THE RAW WELL WATER TO THE PLANT FOR TREATMENT. WE'LL HAVE TO BUILD A NEW ONE TO ACTUALLY TRANSFER BWA WATER FROM ONE PLANT TO THE OTHER. ACTUALLY, BWA WOULD BE PUMPING IT STRAIGHT TO THE OTHER PLANT AT THAT POINT. WE WOULDN'T BE RUNNING PUMPS LIKE WE DO NOW TO TRANSFER FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. TO WOULD GO OFFLINE. I WOULD JUST BE A PIPELINE AND BWA WOULD FILL OUR TANK AS NEEDED. >> RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T MIX TOO MUCH D. >> VERY MINIMAL. >> BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE ALL THAT BWA WATER. WE TRY TO USE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT THE THING IS IS, PEAK DEMANDS THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND THAT THOSE PUMPS BWA CAN ONLY GIVE US SO MUCH AS A GALLON PER MINUTE RATE, SO OUR WELLS HAVE TO COME ON TO COMPENSATE. THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY HARD TO USE 100% OF IT. EVEN THOUGH IN THE NUMBERS, WE COULD USE POTENTIALLY 2.3 MILLION GALLONS IN A DAY. IT'S JUST HARD TO MAKE THAT ALL BWA WATER WITH YOUR PEAKS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. >> WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER TOWER. >> THAT'S PART OF IT, BUT ANOTHER ONE IS, WE JUST BWA JUST CAN'T FEED IT TO US FAST ENOUGH. THAT'S JUST THE LIMITATION. >> BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE PURCHASING. I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE WATER RIGHT NOW THAN WE COULD USE. >> WE DID. >> WE CAN'T STORE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TOWER. >> CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. STORAGE [INAUDIBLE] >> WE'RE SPREADING THAT MONEY OR TO PAY FOR IT CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT USING IT. WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT TO FREE UP SOME MORE WATER BY THEY'RE USING IN OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT. >> BUT THEN, STORAGE IS AN ISSUE, BUT THEN ALSO MIXING IT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO PUT IT TOGETHER, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FROM ONE SIDE TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE OTHER. >> CORRECT. AS WE INCREASE OUR WELL CAPACITY, WHAT WE STAY WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF BWA WATER WE HAVE. WELL, THAT'S WHEN IT BEGINS TO START SLOWLY OFFSETTING, WHERE WE'RE USING WE MAY START PUMPING AS WE GROW, SAVE 3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO USE ALL 2.3 OF OUR BWA CONTRACTS, AND THEN THE OTHER 700,000 WILL COMPENSATE WITH ALL WELLS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THAT WELL CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY SATISFY THAT DEFICIT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK AS OF NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE ALL THAT BWA CONTRACT. BUT AGAIN, AS OUR POPULATION INCREASES, OUR WATER USAGE INCREASES, AND WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PUMP THAT WELL WATER, WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FULL AMOUNT OF CONTRACT, COMPENSATE THE REST WITH WELL WATER. >> WHO DOES BONNIE OR ROHERON USE FOR WATER? THEY ONLY HAVE THEIR OWN WATER, WELL WATER? >> I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BLOOD DISTRICTS, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE GROUNDWATER SOURCES. I DON'T KNOW. I COULD LOOK INTO IT. >> PROBABLY A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL WELLS. >> THAT'S TYPICALLY A COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO DO INDIVIDUAL WELLS. NOW, I KNOW I THINK BWA IS PUMPING WATER TO ROSENBERG. I DON'T KNOW. >> THEY ARE. >> IF THEY HAVE A FEEDER LINE TO ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, I DOUBT IT. I'M SURE THEY'RE ALL WELLS. >> I'M SURE IT'S NOT FAR. YOU NEED US TO ACCEPT THE PLAN? [01:45:08] >> CONTINGENT UPON CHANGING ALTERNATIVE. >> PRIORITY. >> PRIORITY. PRIORITY 1A, 2.1B AND 1B-1A. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONTINGENT ON THE CHANGE IN PRIORITY. THANK YOU. >> MOTION BY COUNSELMAN SARTON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH FOR APPROVAL, THE CONTINGENCIES OF THE CHANGES. >> YOU FOLKS HEARD THAT RIGHT? WE'RE PAYING [NOISE] FOR WHAT WE'RE NOT USING. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH BRINGING [NOISE] THE UTILITY MASTER PLAN FOR PROSAL BACK TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL, CORRECT? [OVERLAPPING] >> THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. HOLDS COSE, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 14, ANNUAL UPDATE DISCUSSION ON [14. Annual update and discussion on Windrose Green Subdivision Development by the developer. ] WINROS GREEN SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT BY THE DEVELOPER. >> MYRA, I JUST WANTED TO REPORT. WE'LL BE BRINGING THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN YOUR NEXT MEETING TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST HEARING FROM WINROS GREEN. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JOE RYBINSKI. I AM WITH EMBER, WHO IS THE DEVELOPER OF WINROS GREEN. AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IS NOT THAT LONG. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ARE WAITING. I WOULD PREFER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS I'M GOING THROUGH, JUST ASK THEM. REALLY WOULD PREFER TO BE MORE OF A TWO WAY STREET THAN JUST ME STANDING UP HERE. BEFORE I DIVE IN, DO YOU'LL HAVE ANY INITIAL QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY? >> NO, I THINK IT'S BEEN WELL DONE SO FAR. >> THANK YOU. WE'VE BATTLED, BUT YOU'VE HELD TO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO, AND I HAVE NOT HAD ANY LINKS FROM THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE. THEY'RE NOT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEY STILL TELL US ANYWAYS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, MAN. THANK YOU. WINROS GREEN FROM IT DOESN'T KNOW IS LOCATED UP DUE EAST OF ANGLETON HIGH SCHOOL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FM 523. THE TOTAL COMMUNITY SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 150 ACRES AT FULL BUILD OUT THAT TOTAL 648 HOMES. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TABLE ON THE LEFT IS SHOWING. THE COMMUNITY HAS BROKEN INTO EIGHT SECTIONS. THE FIRST THREE SECTIONS WERE THOSE LOTS WERE DELIVERED PRIOR TO LAST YEAR. SECTIONS 4&5 ARE THE NEWEST TWO SECTIONS OF LOTS. WE DELIVERED THOSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PAST YEAR. THOSE ARE A COMBINATION OF 45&50 FOOT WIDE LOTS, TOTALING 132 LOTS. THAT LEAVES US THREE MORE SECTIONS OF LOTS TO DEVELOP AND DELIVER. SECTION 6&7, CONSTRUCTION IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PUNCH LIST ITEMS. THEN WE'LL BE MOVING FOR FLAT RECREATION, WHICH IS COMING UP HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRETTY NEAR FUTURE NEXT MONTH. THOSE ARE AGAIN, SECTION 6&7. SAME LOT SIZE AS 45&50, WHICH JUST LEAVES US WITH ONE VERY SMALL SECTION. IT IS QUITE LITERALLY ONE STREET. IT'S THE VERTICAL STREET RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IN TAN. THAT'S JUST THE REMAINING 36 LOTS. WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED SOME CONSTRUCTION ON IT, BUT WE HAVE NOT PAVED THAT ROAD. WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL BE DELIVERED APPROXIMATELY THIS SUMMER. IT'S A VERY LONG WINDED WAY OF SAYING THAT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE WILL BE FINISHED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY APPROXIMATELY THIS SUMMER WITH CONSTRUCTION. LET'S GO BECAUSE I HAVE HOME SALES INFORMATION. THAT'S WHY I WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU'LL SEE, WE HAD AN AWFUL YEAR LAST YEAR FROM A HOME SALE STANDPOINT. IF YOU GO BACK TWO YEARS, 144 HOMES WERE SOLD IN OUR COMMUNITY. LAST YEAR, 37 WERE. THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS. ONE IS JUST THE NEW HOME SALE MARKET IN HOUSTON IS DOWN. I THINK I WAS ACTUALLY HERE LAST MONTH, IF YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY FACTOR. WE ACTUALLY HAD MULTIPLE OF OUR BUILDERS. THE TERM IS CALLED GAP DOT, WHICH BASIC MEANS THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SELL. WE WERE A LITTLE BEHIND ON CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN WE GOT REALLY BEHIND ON POWER. FOR ANYBODY WHO'S WORKED WITH TNMP. THEY ARE DELIVERING. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE BIGGER REASON. WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE WE'LL STAY AT 37. [01:50:03] FOR ANYBODY WHO DOES, HIGH LEVEL MATH, WE'D BE HERE FOR 10 YEARS SELLING HOMES. WE PROJECT THAT WE'LL GET BACK UP OVER 100 THIS YEAR, IF NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS. BUT WE THINK THAT WAS MORE OF A BLIP DUE TO SOME FACTORS, A LOT OF WHICH WE DID OURSELVES LAST YEAR, SO WE COULD MOVE ON. HERE'S SOME INFORMATION, PROBABLY CURIOUS THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE. YOU SEE 40 FOOT LOTS ARE LISTED THERE. WE DID HAVE 40 FOOT LOTS IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THE FIRST COUPLE SECTIONS, MAYBE FIRST THREE SECTIONS. OUR DEVELOPMENT. OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. THERE'S A CAP ON THOSE. THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO MORE COMING. BUT THAT IS LISTED JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THOSE HOMES WE'RE SELLING, AND YOU [NOISE] COULD SEE THE PRICING MOVE UP. THEN IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE TOTAL AVERAGE, YOU TAKE EVERYTHING IN, THAT'S A HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER OF 306,000. PRICE HOME PRICING WAS UNDER 250 ON THAT SMALLER PRODUCT, AND WE DID SOME HOMES THAT PRETTY MUCH EXERCISE SELECTED EVERY OPTION ON THE HOME DID GET UP OVER 500. THAT IS RARE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THAT'S HAPPENED. THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SIZES ON THE SMALLEST SIZE, GET DOWN CLOSE TO 1,300 SQUARE FOOT, AND THEN ON THE BIGGEST SIDE, WHICH IS A 50 FOOT LOT, THIS IS MAXING OUT A LOT, GETTING CLOSE TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT AGAIN, THAT'S THE OUTLIER, AS YOU CAN SEE, AVERAGE HOME SIZE IS CLOSE TO 2,000. >> THAT 4,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME. THAT'S A KEY HOV HOP HOME, ISN'T IT? >> I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. >> YOU'RE TO BUILD ANYMORE OF THOSE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. KEY HOV IS NO LONGER BUILDS. YOU SEE AT THE END, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE BUILDERS. KEY HOV WAS IN THE EARLY SECTIONS AND THEY NO LONGER ARE. THEY WERE REPLACED WITH COVENTRY HOMES. WE SELL CASSEROCK AND LENARD, WHO'VE BEEN IN SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND THEN COVENTRY IS A NEW BUILDER. IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY ARE STARTING ON SECTIONS 4&5. THEY ACTUALLY THEY CLOSED. ON THEIR FIRST HOME SALE. RESIDENTS MOVING INTO THOSE HOMES RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS. >> THEN ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOUSES SOLD. HOW MANY HOUSES DO YOU HAVE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW THAT ARE JUST VACANT? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFFHAND, BUT I HAD A GUESS, IT COULD BE UPWARDS AT 50. GOT THE BUILDERS IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE WHAT WE WOULD CALL SPEC BUILDERS. THEY BUILD A LOT OF INVENTORY HOMES, ESPECIALLY LENARD. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER. I CAN GET IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I CAN FIND IT PRETTY EASILY WHEN I'M IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER AND EMAIL IT TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO. >> YEAH, PLEASE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. I JUST DROP THAT DOWN. I THINK THE ASHLAND GUY SAID HE HAD 94 UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE TIME. >> I DON'T REMEMBER. >> NONE OF THEM SOLD YET. >> THERE'S ACTUALLY A CHANCE AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN I'M SITTING BACK DOWN. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IT ON MY PHONE. I DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE MAYBE THE YOUNGER GUY WITH ME WILL BE I'M NOT QUITE THE TECH GUY. BUT THERE'S A CHANCE. WE DO HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF DRONE PHOTOS, AND SO THIS IS FROM THE NORTH, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE FM 523 LOOKING SOUTH IN OUR COMMIT. THESE ARE THE FIRST FEW SECTIONS. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THEY LOOK PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT, AND THEN GOING OVER THE DETENTION PONDS, AND THAT'S THIS IS BASIC LOOK JUST FLIPPING DIRECTION. THAT DOES SHOWCASE OUR AMENITY AREA, WHICH IS A DEVENURE GREEN PARK THERE, WHICH HAS A PLAYGROUND, SPLASH PAD, AND A SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT SHOWCASE, THAT'S THE SIMILAR VIEW. I THINK YOU CAN START SEEING SOME OF THE NEWER SECTIONS HERE. IN THE FOREGROUND, IS AN OLDER SECTION. THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MANY HOMES AND IT LOOKS A LITTLE NICER THAN THE EMPTY THE ROYAL LAND WHERE SOME HOME CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON. THAT IS WHERE SECTIONS 4&5 ARE LOCATED THERE. THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF WE JUST KEEP FLIPPING AROUND. YOU CAN SEE FOUR AND FIVE IN THE BACKGROUND, AND THEN CLOSER TO US ON THE RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE SECTION 6&7 ARE LOCATED. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS PRETTY MUCH FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WHICH IS THE CIVIL CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF HORIZONTAL, THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS, PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED AT THIS POINT. >> BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER. [NOISE] I HAVE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT, AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THIS COMPLAINT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY ACTION CLAIMS FOR IT. THERE IS NO RIGHT TURN LANE ON 523, IS THAT CORRECT? [01:55:05] >> THAT IS CORRECT. WE ACTUALLY MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO FM 523. THIS IS PART OF OUR TIA, WHICH IS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. >> I RECEIVED THAT COMPLAINT. IT'S DARK AT THAT INTERSECTION. >> GOT YOU. THAT'S GOING TO BECOME A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION WITH TERMINAL. >> IT WILL. >> YES. >> THIS YEAR, IT ACTUALLY WILL. THAT WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN BID AND AWARDED. CONSTRUCTION, WHICH MEANS CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START APPROXIMATELY A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I WILL SAY, TROY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, IF IT'S A MET [OVERLAPPING] >> IS IT A FULL NET STAR? NET STAR HAVE LONG LEAD TIMES. IT SHOULD BE DONE THIS YEAR. IT'S JUST THAT THE TERMINES EASY, AND THAT, WE DON'T REALLY NEED MATERIAL. BUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED WITH TEAM, AND CONSTRUCTION JUST HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> THANK YOU. >> THEN JUST CLICKING THROUGH, IT'S REALLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANGLES OF WHERE YOU COULD SEE ACTIVE HOME CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS LOOKING DOWN TOWARDS SECTION 3? YES. THAT'S DOWN TO SECTION 3, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. >> DID YOU PUT SOLAR LIGHTS OR ANY LIGHTING ALONG THAT WALKWAY TO THE SCHOOL? >> WE HAVE NOT. WE'VE EXPLORED THEM. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE FOR SOLAR BOARD LIGHTS. AT THIS STAGE, WE HAVE NOT. >> IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK? >> WAS THAT? >> IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK? >> I WANT TO. I CAN'T IN PUBLIC. I DON'T MEAN THAT NEGATIVELY. >> I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> THERE ARE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS FROM WHERE I COME FROM THAT I DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. I WOULD LOVE TO SIT HERE AND TELL YOU YES [OVERLAPPING]. >> I'VE JUST SEEN KIDS USE IT. [OVERLAPPING] >> DO THEY HAVE TO BE SOLAR? >> NO. THE THING IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO RUN WIRES, THE OTHER THING AND THERE'S NOT WIRE RUNNING THROUGH THERE. THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE POWER TO IT. THAT'S A NICE THING ABOUT SOLARS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE POWER THE COMPONENT TO DEAL WITH POWER IS IT'S NOT JUST HERE, AND IT'S NOT JUST DEALING WITH POWER STICKS. >> PLEASE TAKE THAT BACK. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE HAD COMMENTS ON FROM PEOPLE THAT LIVE OVER THERE THAT IT IS DARK AT NIGHT OR IN THE EARLY MORNINGS, ESPECIALLY DURING TIME CHANGE, AND THE KIDS ARE WALKING SCHOOL IN THE DARK AND, IT'D BE NICE TO SEE THAT LIT UP FOR THEM. [OVERLAPPING] >> NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS. BUT THAT COULD BE, ADVERTISING. YOU COULD ACTUALLY SAY, WE HAVE SAFE TRAILS LEADING TO THE SCHOOLS. >> I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. TRUST ME I GET THE WHY, 100% WITH THE WHY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT COMPONENT. I THINK THAT'S THE END. >> I THINK THE LEFT SIDE IS JUST LIKE ON YOUR SIDE. >> YES, AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S OUR PLAN OF OUR COMMUNITY. IDEALLY WHEN I COME HERE A YEAR FROM NOW, THAT 37 HOME SALE NUMBER A LOT BIGGER. >> FOR YOUR SAKE. >> WELL PUT. ESPECIALLY SINCE I RUN MARKETING AND DEVELOPMENT. >> SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. >> WHAT WAS THE NUMBER OF LOTS AGAIN THAT ARE 40 FOOT LOTS? >> TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT, WHATEVER THAT IS. >> CAN YOU GO BACK? I CAN'T DO MENTAL MATH AT THIS TIME. THIRTY PERCENT 651, PROBABLY ABOUT 200. >> TWO HUNDRED THAT ARE 40 FOOT REMEMBER? >> I DON'T KNOW. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BAD MATH. YEAH. >> I WENT TO EIGHT TO 648 EQUALS 181. I JUST TOOK THE 28% OF THAT TOTAL. APPROXIMATE. DO YOU KNOW THE NUMBER? THANK YOU. IS IT CLEARLY SAYS FOR SECTION THREE? IT IS 122. SO IT IS NOT 28% OF THE TOTAL LOTS. >> REMEMBER IT'S ON SECTION 3. [02:00:01] NOW, HERE'S MY QUESTION BECAUSE I LOVE TO ASK EVERY DEVELOPER THIS. ARE THE DIFFERENT LOT SIZES? ARE THEY ALL SELLING? OR IS IT JUST CERTAIN LOT SIZES THAT ARE SELLING? >> THEY ALL ARE SELLING. THEY SELL AT A DIFFERENT PACE. >> WHAT SELLS FASTEST? HONESTLY, WHAT'S SELLING FASTEST? >> THE LOWER PRICE POINT DOES SELL FASTER. WHICH THE EASIEST WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT IS OUT OF THE SMALL LOTS. >> BUT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE SECTION IN THE 40S. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> BUT ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE SELLING, TOO. THE 37 THAT SOLD LAST YEAR. WAS THAT A MIX OR WAS THAT PRETTY MUCH ONE? >> THERE ARE NO 40S IN THAT NUMBER. THOSE ARE SOLELY 45S AND 50S. >> ALL THE 40S ARE BUILT. THEY'RE DONE. >> THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT CORRECT. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 40 OPPORTUNITIES LEFT. WE REPURCHASED LOTS FROM ONE BUILDER AND SOLD THEM TO A DIFFERENT BUILDER BECAUSE THAT BUILDER STOPPED BUILDING ON THEM. IT'S ALL THE SAME THREE BUILDERS THAT I MENTIONED. IT'S NOT ANOTHER NEW OUTSIDE BUILDER. THAT BUILDER HAS LOTS ARE BUILDING ON THEM, I ANTICIPATE, ALL OF THOSE REMAINING LOTS WILL SELL THIS YEAR. >> DID YOU HAVE ANGLETON IN THERE AT ONE TIME, TOO? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NO. WE DID NOT. I THINK THE ONLY BUILDER WAS K THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. IT'S BEEN FOUR BUILDERS TOTAL. IT'S BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY AT SOME TIME, AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE THE THREE. >> CHIEF, QUESTION FOR YOU. DID WE RESPOND OUT THERE? >> MATTER OF FACT, I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME FOLKS OUT THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO WAIT AN HOUR TO GET LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DO RESPOND ANYTIME THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASKS US TO BACK THEM UP, EXCUSE ME, LIKE AN ALARM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE DO RESPOND OUT THERE. >> IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, A PARTNERSHIP OR SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT WE COULD ENTER INTO WITH WINDROSE. >> WOULD THAT BE WITH CITY VERSUS COUNTY? THE VERY SHORT ANSWER IS YES. THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTS, THEY CAN RUN THROUGH THE SPECIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE MAD. THEY ALSO CAN RUN THROUGH THE HOA. I'VE SEEN BOTH DONE IN THE PAST. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK WITH OUR CONSULTANTS THAT RUN THE MAD AND THE HOA TO SEE HOW THE FINANCIALS LOOK ON WHICH ONE OR, I GUESS, TECHNICALLY, ANYTHING'S NEGOTIABLE. THERE COULD BE A JOINT TYPE OF AGREEMENT TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. >> BECAUSE IF WE'RE ALREADY RESPONDING OUT THERE IT'D BE APPROPRIATE THAT WE GET SOME TYPE OF FINANCIAL REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT THAT WE CAN HELP US HIRE MORE OFFICERS OR WHATEVER ELSE WE NEED TO DO. >> YES. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT. I'M NOT BY ANY MEANS SAYING THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TO LOOK FOR. THE AGREEMENTS I'VE DONE LIKE THAT, I'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS AROUND HOUSTON, WHAT THE COMMUNITY GETS IN RETURN IS THAT YOU HAVE AN OFFICER OR OFFICE SERVICE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY YOU CONTRACT. THEY HAVE A DEDICATED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IN THE CONTRACT, THEY'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO SPEND INSIDE THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A GENERAL COMMENT ABOUT HOW I'VE SEEN THE STRUCTURED IN THE PAST. >> WHEN I RODE WITH THE OFFICERS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE WENT THROUGH WINDROSE GREEN, AND WE DROVE THROUGH THERE. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WINDROSE GREEN IS INSIDE THE CITY. >> YES. BECAUSE THEY PAY A WATER BILL. [OVERLAPPING] THEY PAY A WATER BILL AND THERE AT THE CITY WHEN THEY'RE NOT. >> THEN THEY'RE NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT SAYS, ANGLETON, THEY JUST THINK, "WE MUST BE IN". >> IF IT SLACKS LIKE A DUCK, AND IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK? >> YOU DON'T OWN ANY MORE PROPERTY IN THAT AREA? YOU'RE FINISHING OUT YOUR SUBDIVISION AND YOU'RE DONE. [02:05:01] >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> IS THE HOA STOOD UP? >> BY STOOD UP, DO YOU MEAN IN EXISTENCE OR? >> IN EXISTENCE. >> YES. >> YOU'RE HAVING MEETINGS? >> YES. OUR ANNUAL MEETING IS ACTUALLY COMING UP. I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE. IT'S IN FEBRUARY. >> CAN YOU PLEASE SEND THE CITY A COPY OF WHO THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA IS AND CONTACT INFORMATION? >> YES. IT'S ME. >> IT'S YOU? >> YES. >> THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN OVER YET. >> YES. >> THIS IS JUST HOW THE COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS RUN IS THAT YEAH, THE DEVELOPER HAS CONTROL OF THE HOA BOARD. THEY RUN IT FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. AS IT IS, RIGHT NOW, I AM ALSO THE HOA PRESIDENT, ONE OF MY MANY HATS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO HOA, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> CAN YOU TALK TO THE PRESIDENT ABOUT GETTING SOME LIGHTS? >> I DID WALK RIGHT INTO THAT ONE. YES, I CAN. >> CAN THE HOA VOTE YOU OUT? CAN RESIDENTS RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE HOA? >> RIGHT NOW, NO. IT'S THE WAY THE GOVERNING STRUCTURES ARE WRITTEN. >> PERCENTAGE OF OCCUPATION? >> THIS IS GOVERNED BY TEXAS STATE LAW AND AT 75% OF HOMES OCCUPIED BY HOMEOWNERS, THE DEVELOPER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE POSITION FOR A RESIDENT? THEN THAT IS 100% VOTED BY THE RESIDENT. THE DEVELOPER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. IT'S AN ELECTION TO THE POSITION. NOW, IF YOU'RE DOING MATH, THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS ON THE HOA. THE DEVELOPER MAINTAINS THE MAJORITY OF IT. THE WAY STATE LAW IS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT UP UNTIL EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN SOLD. THEN AT THAT TIME, IT'S CALLED WE DO TURNOVER OF THE HOA BOARD. THAT'S A LONG AND THAT IT'S NOT, ONE WEEK TRANSITION PROCESS. WE WILL WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SMOOTH WITH THEM. WE HAVE AN HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT IS RUNNING ALL THE DAY TO DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. IF YOU LIKE OUR MANAGER'S CONTACT INFORMATION NAME IS JENNIFER. HAPPY TO GIVE THAT TO YOU. SHE'S AMAZING. THE COMMUNITY WE DID MAKE AN HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY CHANGE APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO, AND IT HAS BEEN WELL WORTH THAT THEY ARE EXCELLENT. >> LAST QUESTION I HAVE, I PROMISE. KYLE, DO WE HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS ALONG THE HENDERSON SIDE OR ALONG THEIR ENTRANCE AREA THAT IS THERE ANYTHING NOT BEING MAINTAINED THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED? SINCE WE'RE TALKING TO THE HOA PRESIDENT? ARE THEY MAINTAINING THE DITCH? EVERYTHING IN THE FRONTS UP TO HENDERSON? SINCE WE'RE ALREADY STARTING AND THEY HAVE AN HOA STOOD UP AND THEY'RE MAINTAINING IT THROUGH THEIR HOA. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE SET NOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LIKE HERITAGE PARK IN THE FUTURE, WHERE THERE'S A RETENTION POND SITTING THERE. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING MAINTAINED ALL THE WAY TO THE DITCH AND KEEPING WHERE WE WANT IT. >> MAINTAINED VERY WELL. >> I JUST LIKE TO MENTION AGAIN, THERE IS A MAD HERE AS WELL. IF GOD FORBID, THAT WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED AS OCCUR, LIKE, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE BODIES THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH ON THAT. NO, I'M NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE MAD BOARD. I'M ACTUALLY LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON THE MAD BOARD. THAT IS SOMEBODY ELSE. >> GOT IT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ELSE? OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM 14? OKAY. I PROMISE Y'ALL I'M NOT DOING THIS STEAL ON PURPOSE, BUT I AM MOVING 17 UP TOO BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME. IT'S THE SAME PERSON. ITEM 17, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN APPLICATION FOR [17. Discussion and Possible Action on an application for Tree Mitigation Plan for the Freedom Park - Detention and Drainage Project, located south of Farm-to-Market (FM) 523 and north of Freedom Park (Previously tabled on 12/2/25).] TREAT MITIGATION PLAN FOR THE FREEDOM PARENION AND DRAINAGE PROJECT LOCATED SOUTH OF FARM TO MARKET FM 523 AND NORTH OF FREEDOM PARK PREVIOUSLY TABLED ON 12/2/25. OTIS, YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING FIRST? >> I JUST WANTED TO REPORT, THIS IS A TABLED ITEM AS WE LOOK TOWARDS THE TREAT MITIGATION PLAN FOR FREEDOM PARK. AS YOU KNOW, IN YOUR LAST DISCUSSION, WE WERE DEALING WITH THE CO REQUIREMENT OF THE 3:1 RATIO REQUIREMENT OF REPLACEMENT, AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR A CREDIT TO AND FROM THE CITY. [02:10:02] I WILL LET THE DEVELOPER EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE ASKING. THEN WE'LL COME BACK ON THE STAFF LEVEL, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MEMO BY HDR, JOHN PETERSON, IN WHICH WE CALCULATE THE TREE REPLACEMENT, AND IF THEY OPTED NOT TO DO THAT, WHAT THAT FEE IN LIEU AMOUNT WOULD BE. WE HAD DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THAT. I WILL LET THEM REITERATE WHAT THE ASK IS ON THE WAIVER. WE'LL DEAL WITH THE COURT REQUIREMENTS, AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT HAPPY MEDIAN IS IN TERMS OF WHAT CONSOLE FEELS COMFORTABLE AS A COMPROMISE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, DEALING WITH THAT 455 CALIPER INCHES OF REPLACEMENT AND WHAT RATIO REPLACEMENT, 03:1, 2.5:1 REPLACEMENT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. IF YOU WANT TO MOVE INTO THE WAIVER REQUEST. >> MAYBE YOU'LL AGREE WITH THIS. I'M GUESSING YOU WILL. LAST COUNCILMAN I WAS AT WHICH I THINK MIGHT HAVE BEEN TWO BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU HAD A SPECIAL ONE. BUT IN DECEMBER, WE TALKED FOR QUITE A WHILE ABOUT THIS IN OUR REQUEST. THIS TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THE SAME REQUEST. I PREFER ACTUALLY, LET'S JUST MOVE ON AND TALK ABOUT THE DOLLARS. WE WERE CLOSE TO THE AGREEMENT LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVER AT THIS TIME, AND LET'S JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, IF THAT'S, OKAY WITH Y'ALL. >> LET'S DO IT. >> SOUNDS GOOD TO US. >> WHERE WE WERE AT LAST TIME, AS I THINK, WE DID ROUGH MATH. WE TOOK THAT $216,000, IT'S NOT FROM THIS, BUT IT'S FROM THAT DOCUMENT FROM JOHN THAT LETTER THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE TOTAL 3:01, AND WE DIVIDED THAT NUMBER BY THREE, WHICH LANDED AT THE $72,000 AMOUNT. I KNOW THAT AFTER WE GOT TO THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMING. WE'RE GOOD. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT TIME FRAME. WE ARE GOOD WITH THE WHOLE AMOUNT BEFORE I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I IT WAS AUGUST 30, 1 OR SEPTEMBER 30. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I BROUGHT UP TIMING LAST TIME I WAS HERE. JUST THAT'S WHERE WE ENDED THE CONVERSATION. I FIGURED THAT'D BE A GOOD STARTING POINT. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT, Y'ALL THINK? >> YOUR PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE THE 216 AND DIVIDE IT BY THREE? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SEVENTY TWO THOUSAND IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? >> YEAH, AND THAT'S BASED ON WHERE OUR CONVERSATIONS WERE THE LAST-. >> THREE TO 1 TO A1:1? >> WHAT'S THAT? >> A 3:1 TO A 1:1. >> HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER IS SO IF WE REMOVED SOME TREES. HOWEVER, WE PRESERVED SOME TREES. THE PRESERVATION OF TREES, WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, WAS ROUGHLY 2:1 COMPARED TO THE TREES THAT WERE REMOVED. THAT'S WHEN I DID COME HERE AND ASK FOR A WAIVER THAT THAT WOULD SUFFICE, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF AGAIN. NO I THINK WE TALKED TO THOSE, IN MY OPINION, VERY BENEFICIAL CONVERSATION. I THINK WE TALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING AND AD NAUSEUM. THAT'S WHY I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. THAT'S THEN HOW WE GOT IS THAT LAST THIRD BECAUSE WE'RE AT 2:1. THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT YOU ALL AGREED IS WE NEED TO MEET THE 3:1. THAT'S WHERE WE TOOK THE 216 AND DIVIDED BY THREE TO MEET THAT LAST THIRD. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THOUGH. BECAUSE THE 216 IS ONLY ADDRESSING FREEDOM PARK, BUT ON HERE, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT WINDROSE GREEN, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT 94,000 YOU'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP ALL THE TREES THE SAME. >> WINDROSE GREEN TREE MITIGATION IS SEPARATE FROM FREEDOM PARKS. >> RIGHT. >> TREE MITIGATION. >> DO WE [OVERLAPPING] >> WINDROSE GREEN, WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT, THEY ALL PASSED IT. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT WAS. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY OFF HAND, BUT BASICALLY WE AGREE WITH HOW MANY ADDITIONAL CALIPER INCHES WE HAVE TO PLANT IN WINDROSE GREEN, [02:15:03] WHICH WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR, SO THIS IS SOLELY NOW ABOUT FREE PARK. >> SLOWLY COMING BACK TO ME. BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE DAMAGE TO HENDERSON ROAD IN FRONT OF YOUR SUBDIVISION. >> YES. THAT CAME UP. I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE PLANS IN WITH Y'ALL TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE AND INSTALL A TURN LANE. WE ACTUALLY SEEM LIKE MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT FURTHER. I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED Y'ALL PLAN ON IMPROVING THAT ROAD, LIKE, THE WIDER AND THE QUESTION OF [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. >> NO, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THERE, WE HAVE CONTRACTUALLY AGREED INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO REDO A CERTAIN PORTION OF HENDERSON. BASICALLY, I THINK UP TO PARKER TOWARDS 35. THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IF YOU'RE BOTH GOING TO BE WORKING ON IT, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO COORDINATE. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU MAY BE TEARING OUT EACH OTHER'S BRAND NEW WORK. >> YEAH, 100% AGREE, WE ARE OPEN TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN, WE GOING AND JUST GO PUT IN A TURN WAY, AND GET OUT OF DOGS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ALL ARE COMING FROM, SO WE ARE DEFINITELY WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE HENDERSON ROAD, BECAUSE WE ARE COMMITTED TO THAT TURN LANE IMPROVEMENT. WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH ROUNDS OF REVIEWS ON THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE, SO PLANS ARE PRETTY MUCH THERE. I THINK THIS MAY BE ALL OF US TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW, MIGHT INVOLVE LEGAL. I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HASH THE TREES OUT, AND THEN THE ROADWAY STUFF NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF A SEPARATE ITEM THAT WE BRING BACK AT A LATER DATE BASED ON HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY JUST WANT TO PAVE THE ROAD, AND THEN THEY NEED TO ADD THE TURN LANES AFTER THE ROADS ALREADY PAVED. IT IS GOING TO BE MY GUESS, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO JUST GO ALONG AND RUN THEIR PLAY RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. MY THOUGHT IS, YOU COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY, SEE HOW THEY WANT TO DO THAT. WE'LL COME BACK AND RECONVENE ON THAT PART OF THIS AT A LATER DATE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING UP ONCE YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION, BUT I'M GUESSING THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THEIR DEAL WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO REDO THE ROAD IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, AND YOURS IS JUST GOING TO BE AN AUXILIARY ADDITION TO IT. >> YES. I'M 100% GOOD WITH THAT, AND I AGREE ABOUT KEEPING THESE SEPARATE. I'LL NEED TO INVOLVE MY ENGINEERS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE A LOT SMARTER THAN ME WHEN IT COMES TO FIGURING OUT LIKE THE LOGISTICS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. >> THE ONLY THING THEY MAY NEED TO KNOW AND WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO THEM IS IF WHEN THEY'RE GOING IN THIS THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO ROAD BASE THIS THING AND EVERYTHING. IT MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO PURCHASE SOME ADDITIONAL BASE RIGHT IN THAT AREA SO THAT YOU CAN TIE IN OR SOMETHING. I'M SURE I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY WILL, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT BASED ON YOUR PLANS. >> I'M GOOD WITH 72,000. >> AT AT THIS POINT, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE [OVERLAPPING] >> PROPOSAL. >> THE PROPOSAL OF THE ONE THIRD OF THE 216-370-980 AS A FEE IN LIEU OF TREAT MITIGATION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? THERE'S PROBABLY NO OTHER BETTER TIME TO SAY THIS, BUT THE CHILDREN AND THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE IN WINDROSE GREEN, WHILE NOT INSIDE THE CITY OF LIMITS ARE PART OF OUR CITY, AND HOPEFULLY AS A DEVELOPER, Y'ALL ARE ABOUT TO FINISH YOUR HOUSES, AND I HOPE THAT YOU REMAIN ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HELPING DIFFERENT ASPECTS. THERE'S A LOT OF SPONSORSHIPS, LEAGUES, SOCCER ASSOCIATIONS, AND SUCH. PLEASE BE INVOLVED IN THIS. PLEASE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL GROUPS, AND I KNOW HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU BACK SOON, [02:20:02] BUT YOU'RE HERE, AND YOUR RESIDENTS ARE HERE, SO PLEASE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO BE INVOLVED. >> I HEAR YOU LOUD CLEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MY CONTACT. IF YOU ALL HAVE EVER ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING, I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE RULES ABOUT WHO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH OR NOT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME, I'M PRETTY EASY TO FIND ON JUST EMAIL. WHETHER IT'S OUR COMMUNITY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN GENERAL. I'M PRETTY MUCH AN OPEN BOOK AND COULD FIND ME PRETTY MUCH ANY DAY OR TIME. I DO REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH ALL ON OUR CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THOSE AREN'T JUST WORDS. I KNOW YOU CAN LOOK AT BACK, MAYBE LAST MONTH'S MEETING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, I'M JUST MAKING THIS UP, AND NO I SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE I GET WHERE Y'ALL ARE COMING FROM YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES, AND I RESPECT THAT. I RESPECT A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST MEETING AND WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING HERE, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. VOTE APPRECIATE IT. >> ITEM NUMBER 15. UPDATE DISCUSSION [15. Update, discussion and possible action on the Gambit Energy Storage Park, 319 Murray Ranch Road, Angleton, Texas, currently a Specific Use Permit (S.U.P) within a Single-family Residential 7.2 District (SF-7.2).] AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE GAMBIT ENERGY STORAGE PARK, 319 MURRAY RANCH ROAD, ANGLETON, TEXAS, CURRENTLY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 7.2 DISTRICT, SF 7.2. OTIS. >> THANK YOU, MAN. COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION STARTED BACK IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR WHEN COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL SUGGESTED THAT THIS BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE CONSOLE WITH QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FACILITY, THE NORSE BEING GENERATED, AND WHAT THINGS HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE WALL HAD BEEN INSTALLED TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE SOUND BY POWER PLUS. SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF SITE VISITS. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE RECEIVED CALLS DURING SOME OF THE HIGHER TEMPERATURES IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, WHERE THE SOUND HAS BEEN ACCELERATED VOLUMES THAT WERE DISTURBING TO THE NEIGHBORS. WE AS STAFF WOULD GO OUT WITH THE HELP OF PD WITH THEIR DEVICES TO TAKE DECIBEL READINGS, TO TRY TO TRACK THAT. IMMEDIATELY, WE WOULD CONTACT POWER PLUS IN THOSE INSTANCES. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE ANNUAL SOUND STUDY THAT'S DELIVERED TO THE CITY TWICE A YEAR. WE RECENTLY RECEIVED ONE IN SEPTEMBER IN WHICH YOU RECEIVED AND RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THAT. TONIGHT, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE CONSUL ON ITEMS OF CONCERN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR THOSE. THERE ARE SOME UPDATES THAT WE'LL PROVIDE TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THE SITE VISITS THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH LEADERSHIP, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS WHERE WE VISITED THE SITE, HAD THE SOUND, BASICALLY MIMIC THOSE PARTICULAR CONDITIONS JUST MENTIONED SO THAT WE COULD REALIZE WHERE THE SOUND IS ACTUALLY DRIVING FROM. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE CONCLUSIONS. WE HAVE MET WITH THE POWER PLUS ENTITY SINCE, AND PRIOR TO THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, AS WE SCHEDULED BY THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND HOPEFULLY, AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, WE CAN DEAL WITH SOME ITEMS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED. MAYBE SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REGARDING THE SOUND STUDY IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY. WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE POSITIONING OF THE SOUND STUDY, WHERE THE MICS ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED. THEN AND THEN GAMBIT CAN POSSIBLY EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL WHAT THINGS THEY HAVE DONE REGARDING THAT. MAYOR, I'LL PUT IT IN YOUR HANDS IN TERMS OF THE SEQUENCING, AND THEN WE'LL COME UP TO THE MIC, AS YOU CALL US. >> WHEN I CALL YOU UP, I CAN ONLY GIVE EVERYONE A FEW MINUTES EACH. CAN'T GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS. GOT THREE MINUTES EACH. GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT, AND WE'LL TAKE NOTES. THEN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDIENCE AS WELL. BUT I'M GOING TO START WITH MS. DENISE. MY NAME IS CLARA DENISE. I LIVE IN A 864, SHREDDING OAK DRIVE. I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AT LEAST FIVE TIMES AND TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT. [02:25:01] WE CAME TO THE VERY FIRST MEETING WHEN IT WAS BEING PROPOSED, AND WE VOICED OUR CONCERNS AT THE TIME IT WAS GAMBIT, THE PROJECT. THEN WE'VE BEEN TO EVERY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, AND IT'S STILL A PROBLEM FOR US. ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THE INITIAL AGENDA ITEM SAID THAT IT WAS UPDATE AND DISCUSSION, AND NOW I SEE IT SAYS, POSSIBLE ACTION. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE POSSIBLE ACTION IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, OR Y'ALL OR SOMEBODY IS PROPOSING HAPPENED. THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF. I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF BECAUSE I LIVE CLOSE TO THIS BATTERY PART, BUT I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, AND SO I'M ALSO HAVE THAT HAT ON AND REPRESENTING OUR NEIGHBORS, SO I GUESS I'D JUST LIKE A SHOW OF HANDS OF WHO'S HERE THAT WANTS TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT AGAINST THIS NOISE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING. IT IS ONE OF THE TOP COMPLAINTS THAT I GET AS THE PRESIDENT, AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT. I DON'T KNOW EVEN HOW TO ADDRESS IT, SO I'M CURIOUS. WHAT THE PROPER PROCEDURE IS WHEN WE HAVE A NOISE COMPLAINT, HOW WE GO ABOUT VOICING OUR CONCERNS, BECAUSE WE HAVE DATA POINTS YOU'D BE COMING OUT THERE EVERY DAY FOR A LOT OF THE TIME, AND IT'S NOT JUST IN THE SUMMER. I WANT TO JUST PLAY A VIDEO FOR YOU. IT'S DECEMBER THE 20TH. IT'S ON A SATURDAY, SO THERE'S NO HIGHWAY NOISE. IT'S 7:07 A.M. I COULD HEAR THIS NOISE FROM INSIDE OF MY HOUSE. I JUST STEPPED OUTSIDE ON MY FRONT PORCH. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU WHERE MY HOUSE IS LOCATED IN RELATION TO THE BATTERY PARK. THE BATTERY PARK HAS A WALL, AND THEY'VE IMPROVED THE WALL. IT DIDN'T HELP, BUT THEY IMPROVE THE WALL. THEN THERE'S A GREEN SPACE, AND THEN THERE'S DITCH TEN. EVERYBODY KNOWS DITCH TEN RUNS BEHIND THE SPREADING OAK DRIVE. THEN THERE IS MY NEIGHBORS, LANCE AND THE MCDANIELS, THEY LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. THEY HEAR IT ALL THE TIME MORE THAN I DO. THERE'S A STREET, WHICH IS SPREADING OPS, AND THEN MY HOUSE. I'M ON THE CORNER OF SPREADING AND RUSTY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YARDS AWAY, OR I DON'T KNOW THE DISTANCE AWAY. >> IT'S 676 [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M QUITE BIT AWAY FROM THIS BATTERY. >> FIVE HUNDRED FEET. >> FIVE HUNDRED FEET. >> SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX FROM THE BATTERY. >> I WAS TRYING TO GOOGLE THAT. THAT'S THAT NOISE I HEARD, AND I WAS TRYING TO GOOGLE THAT. >> SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX FROM ONE OF THE ACTUAL BATTERIES HERE FROM POACH. >> TO MY HOUSE, 676. LET ME JUST PLAY THE VIDEO THAT IT'S REAL SHORT. CAN YOU HEAR THAT? >> I CAN'T HEAR IT. >> THAT DIDN'T WORK. >> THIS IS FROM MY BACKYARD. AS YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE A NICE DECIMETER. THIS IS FROM NOVEMBER THE 24TH. I HAVE SEVERAL THAT GO UP INTO DECEMBER, 63 DECIBELS IN MY BACK YARD. JUST TO PROVE IT'S NOT THE HIGHWAY. I HAVE A 11 INCH SCREEN, SO I CAN SEE THIS FOR MY CHAIR. RARELY DOES THIS THING GO BELOW 40 DECIBELS. TWO NIGHTS AGO AT 9:00 P.M. THERE WAS NO SOUND ON THE HIGHWAY, I WAS RUNNING 31 DECIBELS. THIS IS WHAT IT SHOULD SOUND LIKE 33 DECIBELS. THAT ONE WAS JANUARY THE 11TH AT 8:00 P.M. 32 DECIBELS. THEY'VE GOT BETTER DATA THAN I DO, ANYWAY, SO YEAH. I WOULD LIKE FROM THE COUNCIL OR FROM THIS MEETING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS THAT WE ENGAGE WITH THE CITY WHEN WE HAVE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE A COMPLAINT. THE NOISE MIGHT LAST REALLY BAD FOR FEW HOURS, THREE HOURS, TWO HOURS, FIVE HOURS, WHATEVER. SOMETIMES IT'S ALL DAY LONG, BUT A LOT OF TIMES BY THE TIME THESE GUYS COME OUT THERE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM ANYMORE. WE REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT REAL TIME DATA THAT THESE GUYS ARE COLLECTING. [02:30:06] >> GOT IT. KELLY MCDANIEL, 883 SPREADING OAK DRIVE >> [INAUDIBLE] ENOUGH FOR ME. I'M KELLY MCDANIEL. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? >> YES, MA'AM. >> I LIVE AT 883 SPREADING OAK DRIVE. I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO LANCE AND DENISE, AND WE GOT THAT SOUND ALL THE TIME. I REALLY THOUGHT GAMBIT WAS GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT, SO I HAD A LOT MORE PREPARED TO SAY, SO I WON'T KEEP YOU VERY LONG. I JUST HAD A FEW SOUND DATES BECAUSE WE SAW THE REPORT THAT THEY CAME DOWN AND DID, AND IT WAS AUGUST 18 THROUGH THE 23RD. THEY SAID THEY RAN IT FROM, LIKE, 10:00 A.M. TO 10:00 P.M. OR SOMETHING. BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT MY RECORDINGS, I HAVE NO RECORDINGS IN AUGUST FROM THOSE DATES. IT'S LIKE, THEY TURN THE SWITCH OFF, LET'S DO SOUND TESTING, AND THEN WHEN THEY LEAVE, LET'S TURN IT BACK ON. IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID BECAUSE I GOT JULY 27 RIGHT HERE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE COMING DOWN TO DO THE STUDY. TURN THIS UP. >> WHAT'S THAT AGAIN? JULY WHAT? >> THIS IS JULY 27TH AT 9:22 A.M. >> SO THAT'S ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THEY CAME DOWN. THIS IS JULY 30 AT 10:30 AT NIGHT. THEN IT SKIPS. AND I'M NOT OUT THERE EVERY NIGHT RECORDING. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STUFF ON MY PHONE, BUT THIS NEXT ONE IS AUGUST 28. RIGHT AFTER THEY TURNED OFF THE STUDY. CAN YOU HEAR IT? NEXT ONE IS NOVEMBER 7TH. IT'S GETTING LOUDER. I'M 492 FEET. THIS IS WHERE I WAS STANDING. NOVEMBER 18. IT'S NOT HOT. NOVEMBER 21ST. NOVEMBER 24, THAT'S EVEN LOUDER. THAT LAST ONE WAS LIKE AT 12:00 AT NIGHT. THAT'S NOVEMBER 28 AT 1:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. THIS IS AT 11:07 THIS PAST FRIDAY NIGHT. IT'S NOTHING HAS CHANGED. IT'S REALLY BAD BECAUSE, WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE FROM IN OUR SUBDIVISION. I NOTICED ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, STEPHANIE BOX POSTED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SOUND ACTUALLY GOT TO HEAR THE BIRDS CHIRPING TODAY. THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE. THAT'S OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S PITIFUL THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THIS. I HAD A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. I REALLY THOUGHT AMBER WAS GOING TO BE HERE BECAUSE, I WAS LOOKING AT THEIR ORIGINAL SUP OR WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THAT STUFF. BUT WHEN THEY WERE PROPOSING IT, IT SAID MINIMAL ANTICIPATED NOISE, BUT THEY MENTIONED THE SOUND LEVEL SHOULD BE THAT OF WATER THE SOUND OF WATER HITTING A WINDOW. WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT SOUND. WHEN HURRICANE BERYL CAME THROUGH HERE? I RECORDED THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS COOL. THAT'S THE WATER HITTING THE WINDOW THAT WE'RE HEARING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE PRETTY TIRED OF IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO GO. THIS IS MY SECOND OR THIRD TIME TO HAVE ALL BEEN OUT TO MY HOUSE. IT'S JUST CONSTANTLY. I TOLD YOU BEFORE, WE'VE RETIRED HERE. WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A GORGEOUS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE PAY A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS. I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY. I BUILT A SWIMMING POOL AND A BIG, BEAUTIFUL PATIO FOR MY GRANDBABIES. THEY HAVE RECENTLY MOVED AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME. I'VE BUILT THAT HOUSE FOR MY GRANDBABIES TO COME, THAT POOL IN THAT BACK YARD FOR THEM TO ENJOY, AND FOR ME FOR US TO ENJOY THEM, WE CAN'T DO IT LIVING IN THIS. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. >> KRISTIN LEWIS. [02:35:01] >> I BELIEVE CHRIS PELTIER TOLD US THE STORY ON ONE OF THE LAST TIMES HE'S JUST SPOKEN ABOUT COUNSEL AND HIM AND CODY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT COULD BE NOWHERE NEAR ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL. CERTAINLY NOT HERITAGE JOKES. I GUESS OVERNIGHT, IT HAD TO HAPPEN FOR ANGLETON CAUSE THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH MONEY. DAD SET AGAINST IT. THEN IT HAPPENED. THESE PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT TO NO ONE FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY. ANGLETON DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY MONEY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN ANY. THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF MONEY WORTH IT FOR PEOPLE TO PAY THAT MUCH MONEY FOR THEIR HOMES. JUST HOW THEY WANT THEM TO BE JUST, MISERABLE INSIDE, THEY WOULDN'T. THERE'S NOTHING ANGLETON HAS TO DO IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT OUT OF DOING IT. OUR TAXES WERE STILL VERY, HIGH. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BATTERY PARK IS PAYING Y'ALL, NOT ANYTHING LIKE GOOD. I'M SURE CHRIS PELTIER WAS LED TO BELIEVE WHEN HIS FRIEND IS TELLING, EVERYTHING'S CHANGED, IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW. WHY? >> THANK YOU. MISS BOX. >> MINE'S GOING TO BE SHORT. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT TO COVER. 70 BOX AT 9:03, SPREADING OAK. WE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT, I THINK IT WAS OCTOBER 7 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I KNOW MAYOR, YOU WERE THERE. I THINK, MR. SMITH, YOU CAME OUT. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO GO BY AND LISTEN TO THE SOUND OF THE BATTERY THAT NIGHT? >> I DIDN'T GO THAT NIGHT. I'VE BEEN BY THERE PROBABLY OFF AND ON OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT ALSO I RODE THREE TIMES WITH THE PD IN DECEMBER. EVERY NIGHT, WE WENT BY WITH A WITH THE HANDHELD. IT WAS REALLY COLD THAT NIGHT. WE GOT OUT. I THINK WE WERE IN FRONT OF MISS MCDANIEL'S HOUSE. WE STOPPED, WE GOT OUT AND WITH THE DECIBEL READER AND LISTENED, AND IT MUST HAVE BEEN A QUIET NIGHT, BUT THERE WAS NO NOISE AT THAT TIME. ACTUALLY, ALL THREE NIGHTS THAT WE DID IT. TWO TIMES WE DIDN'T GET OUT. THE ONE NIGHT WE DID GET OUT, BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR IT EITHER OF THOSE TIMES. BUT YES, I'VE BEEN MAKING ROUNDS OVER THERE WHEN I CAN. >> I ASK BECAUSE THAT NIGHT, MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE IN CUL DE SAC FOR NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT. THAT NIGHT, IT WAS SO LOUD. WHEN I CAME AROUND THE CORNER, WE WALKED FROM OUR HOUSE. WE COULD HEAR IT DOWN ENCHANTED OAKS. IT'S SO BAD THAT THAT'S THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT. IN REFERENCE TO THE VIDEO THAT YOU HAVE HEARD, THE CLIPS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD, I WANT TO PLAY. I TOOK THIS TODAY BEFORE COMING. MY VOICE IS IN IT BECAUSE I DO RECORD THE DATE AND TIME AND TEMPERATURE IN EVERY VIDEO. TUESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2025. AT 5:15 P.M. 55 DEGREES OUTSIDE. SO IF YOU CAN TELL, IT'S A LOT QUIETER THAN THE CLICKS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD? THIS IS SITTING ABOUT 55 DECIBELS, AND IT WOULD TAKE IT AT 5:00 SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC DOWN TO 88. WITHOUT THE FANS GOING, IT'S AT 55. WITH THE FANS GOING, MY HIGHEST RECORDING IS, I THINK, 72. FROM MY BACKYARD. >> I THINK YOU'RE THE CLOSEST. >> I DO NOT HAVE THE GROUND BARRIER WALL THAT THEY HAVE BUILT. WE ARE RIGHT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE EASEMENT. >> BARRIER STOPS RIGHT HERE. IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE MY FINGER IS. BOXES LIVE RIGHT THERE. >> WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SEE ANY PART OF IT AS PER THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY SUBMITTED. WE CAN SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE IT EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT WE DID, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL I WENT OVER FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY. BUT THE SOUND ON AND ON DAY IS MUCH QUIETER THAN ON TAPE, AND IT'S VASTLY DIFFERENT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW JOY BECAUSE WE CAN HEAR THE BIRDS ON A SEPTEMBER AFTERNOON. [02:40:01] THAT SHOULDN'T BE WHERE WE'RE AT. IT'S NOT THE PEACEFUL, ENJOYABLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY ARE ENTITLED TO. MORE PEOPLE WILL HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE STUFF. THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL MEETING AGENDA WAS LAST TIME THAT WE MET. BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE RECORDED THAT THIS IS IT'S NOT ENJOYABLE. IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE DO, LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, PAY A LOT IN TAXES. WE BUILT OUR DREAM NEIGHBORHOOD. CHRIS WAS OUR BUILDER. WE WENT THROUGH AND PICKED EVEN THE GROUT COLOR. EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF OUR HOME WAS HAND PICKED BY US, AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE WE END UP. AT THIS POINT, WE COULDN'T SELL WITHOUT DISCLOSING IT BECAUSE IT'S NOW BEEN PUBLIC MEETINGS. >> YOU WENT FOR THE CONSCIENCE, YOU WOULDN'T DO IT ANYWAY. >> EXACTLY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S LIKE, "OKAY, IF WE SAY, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS. IF WE DON'T SAY, WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE IT", WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUR PROPERTY VALUE BACK OUT OF IT BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO THAT. YOU'VE HEARD CLIPS BACK THROUGH DECEMBER WHEN NORMALLY, IT'S JUST THE SUMMER MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S HOT. BUT THIS WINTER HASN'T BEEN WINTER. IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH A HOT HOT MONTH OR TWO MONTHS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH. >> YES, MA'AM. I'M SAVING YOU LAST. LANCE WORAM. >> MY NAME IS LANCE WORAM. ACCORDING TO GAMBIT, I 350 FEET FROM THEIR EQUIPMENT. I HAVE TWO COMMENTS. ONE, IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT GAMBIT RECEIVED THEIR SUP UNDER FALSE PRETENSES BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO READ FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY GAVE US AND THE CITY. ALTHOUGH THE FACILITY WILL CONTAIN EQUIPMENT SIMILAR TO A SUBSTATION, AIR CONDITIONING TRANSFORMERS, IN BERGERS THE ANTICIPATED NOISE LEVEL AT THE PROJECT BOUNDARY IS LESS THAN 55 DECIBELS. THIS IS BELOW THE EXISTING ADMIT NOISE LEVEL OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THE SOUND LEVEL WILL DROP FURTHER AS A FUNCTION OF DISTANCE FROM THE PROJECT BOUNDARY AND BE LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS. AT 30 METERS AWAY AND WELL BELOW THE SOUND OF THE WATER WINDOW. THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THEIR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT THEY GAVE THE CITY. IN MY OPINION, THEY LIED TO THE CITY. THEY LIED TO THE RESIDENTS. KEITH MERKLE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE WITH DIRECTLY. I FINALLY FOUND HIS NAME LAST NIGHT AND HE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT TOLD ME, "YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. IT'S GOING TO BE THE LESS THAN 40 DECIMALS OF YOUR HOUSE. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO EVEN HEAR IT". OBVIOUSLY, THAT WAS THE MISINFORMATION. I WAS THE FIRST PERSON, PROBABLY CHRIS TO PICK A LOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I PICKED IT WHEN THERE WAS A DIRT ROAD THERE BECAUSE I'D SPENT WEEKS DRIVING AROUND THE BARRICADE SO I COULD GET BACK THERE AND GO, I WANT THIS SPECIFIC LOT. I PURCHASED THAT LOT BECAUSE THERE WAS TREES BEHIND ME AND I WOULD NEVER HAVE A REAR NEIGHBOR. MY HOUSE HAS FIVE HUGE WINDOWS ACROSS TO THAT, SO I CAN ENJOY NATURE. WE HAVE PROBABLY 50 DIFFERENT SPECIES OF BIRDS THAT COME INTO OUR YARD AND THERE'S DAYS WE CAN'T HEAR THEM. IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD A BLUE JAY SQUAW, AND YOU CAN HEAR IT FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF FEET. I CAN HEAR THEM IN THE OAK TREES ACROSS THE DITCH WHEN GAMES NOT GOING. WHEN GAMBIT IS RUNNING AT 60 DECELS. I CAN'T HEAR THEM IN THE TREE IN MY BACKYARD. IT'S A REAL HEARTBREAK FOR US TO HAVE THAT KIND OF NOISE WHEN I HAND PICK THAT LIGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE REASONS. MY OTHER COMMENT IS ON THE SOUND PRESSURE STUDY THAT THEY DID. I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLACEMENT OF THE MICROPHONES. ACCORDING TO THEIR PLACEMENT, THEY HAD TO MAKE SOUND ADJUSTMENTS. I USED TO BE IN THE BIG CRANKE STEREOS, WHICH HALL LOVE A CITY COUNCIL. FORTUNATELY, I WAS DOWN IN LAKE JACKSON AND BEAUMONT AT THE TIME. FOR EVERY TIME YOU DOUBLE THE FOOTAGE, THE SOUND SHOULD DROP 6 DECIBELS. IF THE SOUND AT 100 FEET IS 50 DECIBELS, AT 200 FEET, IT SHOULD BE 44. IN THEIR STUDY, ON AUGUST THE 18TH, IT WAS 50 DECIBELS AT LESS THAN 50 FOOT RANGE, BUT I GOT COMMENTS ON THAT. LESS THAN 50 FOOT OR LESSS THAN 100 FOOT, IT WAS AT 50 DECIBELS, WHICH MEAN AT MY HOUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER 44. ON THE DAY THAT IT WAS 65 DECIBELS AT MY HOUSE, [02:45:03] IF YOU GO BACKWARDS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 71 AT THE BOUNDARY. WELL OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY ORDINANCE AND THEIR AGREEMENT. I WENT THERE AND I ADJUSTED EVERY ONE OF THEIR READINGS, AND YES, THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE. THEY'RE UNDER 45. BUT THEY'RE NOT UNDER WHAT THEY EVEN TOLD ME. IF I TAKE THE READINGS THAT I KEEP AND WORK BACKWARDS, THEY'RE WELL OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THE OTHER PIECES, THEY'RE NOT 100 FEET FROM THE WALL WHEN THEY TAKE THEIR MEASUREMENTS. THE WALL LAYER X JUST LIKE AN AIR STRING WIND DAM. THE SOUND COMES FROM THE BATTERY HITS THE WALL, GOES OVER LANDS IN MY BACKYARD. IF YOU PLACE A MICROPHONE NEXT TO THE WALL, YOU'LL GET LESS SOUND THAN IF YOU PUT IT AT 100 FEET. IF YOU NOTICE THEY DIDN'T PUT IT AT 100 FEET, THEY PUT IT AT 75. WHY? BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MAKE A TWO DECIBEL ADJUSTMENT TO GET TO THEIR NUMBERS. THEY MANIPULATED THE SOUND PRESSURE DATA. MY OPINION OR WHAT I WOULD REQUEST FROM THE CITY, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG DRAWN OUT BATTLE THAT PROBABLY WILL END UP IN COURT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AT THE NEXT SOUND LEVEL ME STUDY THEY'VE GOT TO DO WHAT IS. COMES UP IN MARCH. THEY NEED TO PUT METERS, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE AT 100 FEET, NOT 75 OR 80, WHATEVER THEY PUT THEM AT. PUT THEM AT 100 FEET, STICK ONE IN MY BACKYARD, STICK ONE IN MCDANIEL'S BACKYARD. STICK ONE IN CLAIRE'S YARD. THAT WAY, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH THE SOUND DROPS OR DOES NOT DROP BECAUSE YOU CAN'T USE THE SIX DECIBAL PER DOUBLING OF DISTANCE IN AN OPEN AREA. IF YOU GO TO CHIESA IZA, THERE'S A BIG STADIUM. IT'S LIKE 180 TO 200 YARDS LONG. IF YOU STAND ON THIS END, IT'S ALL CONCRETE. IF YOU STAND ON THIS END, YOU CAN HOLD THE CONVERSATION AT A LEVEL LESS THAN WHAT I'M SPEAKING, I MAKE SURE I'VE HEARD AT A LEVEL LESS THAN I'M SPEAKING, AT THE OTHER END OF THE FIELD, YOU CAN HEAR THAT CONVERSATION. THE SOUND PRESSURE DOES NOT CHANGE BECAUSE IT BOUNCES DOWN THE WALLS. IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO STOP IT, YOU DON'T GET THE DOUBLING DROP. I THINK THEIR CALCULATION IS ON THE DROPPER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR SOUND PRESSURE MEASUREMENTS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IN ONE ISSUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SHARING ALL THE DATA? >> MYSTERIOUSLY, MY METER PUT ON THE WALL- [BACKGROUND] >> SORRY, YOU GUYS WON'T HAVE TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS SUPER WELL. MY PRINTER IS RUNNING A LITTLE LOW ON TONER. I'M ERIK DANIEL, 872, SPREADING OAKS. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY, AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT. FIRST THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THAT, IT SAYS, GAMBIT IN JANUARY OF 2026. WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT PICTURE IS A TESLA MEGAPACK ON FIRE IN OCTOBER OF 2025 AT THE SALT RIVER PROJECT IN ARIZONA. THEY HAVE NOT RELEASED A FORMAL INVESTIGATION YET, BUT IT'S THE SAME BASIC SETUP. THEY HAVE A THERMAL RUNAWAY EVENT. THEY CATCH ON FIRE. YOU CAN'T PUT THEM OUT. THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO BURN OUT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DATA, BUT I THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT BECAUSE IT WAS PUT IN SERVICE ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE GENTA BATTERY WAS PUT IN SERVICE AS WELL. ON THAT SAME SIDE OF THE PAGE, I TALKED ABOUT WHEN I WAS HERE IN JUNE, I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD REVOKE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED BASED ON BEING ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR OR TRANSMISSION LINES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NEITHER OF THOSE. IT HAS SOME ELEMENTS OF THOSE AS PART OF ITS OVERALL SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S THERE FOR. JUST LIKE YOU GUYS COVERED ON ITEM 7 AND ITEM 8 OF YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, WHEN THERE ISN'T SOMETHING IN THE ANGLETON CODE, YOU HAVE A MEANS TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL CATEGORY, LIKE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM, BECAUSE MR. RANDALL SAID THIS DOES NOT CLASSIFY AS AN ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANT. I DISAGREE WITH THAT. THEN YOU CAN ADD A NEW CATEGORY, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS, TO THE ANGLETON CITY CODE. IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME OTHER HOOPS WHICH WE'RE NOT GONE THROUGH. THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE IN EXISTENCE. I THINK THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS IN PARTICULAR, THE SCHOOLS, AND EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND IS REALLY GOING TO BEAR THE BURDEN IF THIS THING CATCHES ON FIRE. [02:50:04] NEXT THING, IF YOU FLIP TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PAGE WHERE I TALK ABOUT NOISE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS THAT LANCE AND A FEW OF THE OTHERS MENTIONED. THIS PARTICULAR SOUND STUDY WAS CONDUCTED BY A GUY NAMED MARK STORM WITH DUDEK. YOU SEE A LITTLE SCREENSHOT OF A PRESENTATION HE GAVE AT A CONFERENCE ON NOISE-CON 2022, TITLED BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM FACILITY IMPLEMENTATION, NOISE CONTROL AND SOUND ABATEMENT CONSIDERATIONS. THIS STUDY WAS CONDUCTED BY AN ENGINEER WHO WORKS IN THE FIELD OF NOISE AND SOUND. HE ACTUALLY IN THIS PAPER, DESCRIBES THE DIFFERENT SOURCES OF NOISE FROM BETTER ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT NOISE, SUCH AS THE FREQUENCIES AND SOUND PRESSURE LEVELS, AND ALSO HOW TO CONTROL THOSE OR ABATE THEM WERE APPROPRIATE. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MY BULLET POINTS REALLY QUICKLY, THEN AGAIN, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER. THE NOISE FROM THE BATTERY THAT WE MOST COMMONLY EXPERIENCE IS NOT THE FIVE OR SIX-HOUR DURATION. IT'S SUPER INTENSE FOR 15 MINUTES AT 7:00 A.M. ON A SATURDAY, OR AT 6:00 P.M. ON A THURSDAY, OR SOME OTHER RANDOM TIME OF THE DAY. IT'S ACTUALLY DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH MARKET PRICES IN ERCOT. WHEN POWER IS CHEAPEST, OR THEY'RE ANTICIPATING HAVING VERY HIGH PRICES, THEY WILL CHARGE OR DISCHARGE THE BATTERY AS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY. IN MY HOUSE, 700 FEET AWAY, I CAN HEAR THE DAMN THING TURN ON WHENEVER IT'S RUNNING AT FULL TILT. THIS ISN'T WHEN WE CAN HEAR THE BIRDS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HEAR THIS THING KICK ON. BULLET NUMBER 2, THE NOISE IS FROM A COMBINATION OF THINGS. THE PRIMARY THING THAT IS ANNOYING TO US AS RESIDENTS IS THE THERMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THIS IS THE FANS THAT ARE ON THE INDIVIDUAL CONTAINERS WHEN THEY KICK ON. THEY HAVE A DUTY CYCLE, SO THE SPEED AND THE VOLUME OF AIR THAT THEY FLOW IS ADJUSTABLE BASED ON THE RATE THAT THE BATTERY IS EITHER CHARGING OR DISCHARGING AT. THE OTHER COMBINATION OF NOISE WE HEAR, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT AS DISTINCT FROM WHEN WE'RE AT OUR RESIDENCES, IS THE MEDIUM-VOLTAGE AND THE HIGH-VOLTAGE TRANSFORMERS. THE MEDIUM-VOLTAGE TRANSFORMERS ARE LIKELY TO BE PASSIVELY COOLED. THE HIGH-VOLTAGE TRANSFORMERS DO HAVE THEIR OWN EXTERNAL FANS. YOU CAN HEAR THOSE IF YOU'RE WALKING AROUND IN THE SITES. YOU CAN'T HEAR THOSE QUITE AS LOUDLY WHENEVER YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE WALLS OF THE FACILITY. POINT NUMBER 3. IN THE PAPER THAT YOU SEE THE SCREENSHOT OF THERE, MR. STORM REFERENCES DOCUMENTS FROM TESLA AND FROM OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THAT THE SOUND PRESSURE LEVELS FROM THE SOURCES AT A BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM ARE OVER 75 DECIBELS WITH MODERATE THERMAL LOADS. ONE OF THESE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT I LOOKED AT IN THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS HAD OVER 80 DECIBELS FOR THAT PARTICULAR THERMAL LOAD OF THE BATTERY SYSTEM. THEY HAD HIGHER TEMPERATURES OR SOME OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED, SO THAT GOES TO LANCE'S POINT. IF YOU AREN'T ACTIVELY MEASURING THE SOUND WHERE IT'S BEING GENERATED TO THEN VALIDATE THE MEASUREMENTS YOU'RE TAKING OUT AT 100 FEET OR 75 OR WHATEVER THEY SAY THEY'RE MEASURING IT AT, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY CAPTURING THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT. WE DIDN'T JUST DECIDE, LET'S GO UP TO CITY COUNCIL AND SIT HERE FOR THREE HOURS, AND THEN TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS. THEN I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC CRITIQUES ABOUT THE STUDY THEY PERFORMED. THERE ARE NO IMAGES OF THE MEASUREMENT SET UP TO CONFIRM OR VERIFY THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE. THEY MENTIONED SECURING SOME OF THEM TO TREES, AND IT'S LIKE, WAS THE TREE OBSTRUCTING THE ACTUAL MICROPHONE IN THE FIRST PLACE? HARD TO SAY. THE SECOND BULLET THAT WE HAVE, THE MINUTE-LEVEL SOUND DATA WAS CAPTURED, HOWEVER THE VALUES THEY PRESENT ARE 24-HOUR AVERAGES. NOT USEFUL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF 15-MINUTE PERIODS OF SUPER HIGH NOISE. IF I SCREAM IN THIS MICROPHONE, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. THE AVERAGE NOISE IN THIS ROOM FOR THE TIME WE'VE BEEN IN HERE IS LIKE 45 DECIBELS. BUT AGAIN, IT GETS TO 100. YOU SAY IT'S A QUIET MEETING? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT. THIRD BULLET, WHICH MS. MCDANIEL COVERED. DURING THE WINDOW THAT THEY CONDUCTED THEIR SOUND STUDY, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE ERCOT DATA, WHICH IS WHAT ERCOT PUBLISHES 60 DAYS AFTER A PARTICULAR DAY, TO SAY, HERE ARE ALL OF THE AWARDS WE MADE FOR LOAD AND GENERATION FOR ALL THE POWER PLANTS IN TEXAS. BASED ON MY REVIEW AND INTERPRETATION OF THAT DATA, [02:55:03] THE BATTERY WAS NOT REALLY DOING MUCH DURING THAT WEEK THAT THEY WERE MONITORING. YOU CAN LOOK THAT DATA UP ON ERCOT'S WEBSITE. ALL THAT TO SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A PROPER STUDY, AND BASICALLY, THEY'RE INVESTIGATING THEMSELVES AND SAYING, HEY, WE DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG. THAT'S REALLY SURPRISING. THEY REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOUND MEASUREMENTS AT THE NOISE SOURCE. WE ALSO HAVE TO VALIDATE AND VERIFY THAT THE BATTERY IS OPERATING IN THE WAY THAT MAKES THE NOISE THAT WE'RE HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT. NAMELY, IT'S RUNNING AT THE FULL POWER LEVELS WE'RE EXPECTING, AND THE TEMPERATURE IS CAPTURED, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THAT'S SOMETHING I'D BE GLAD TO HELP YOU GUYS THINK THROUGH, IF YOU WANT. I'VE MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, I'VE WORKED IN THIS AREA FOR NINE YEARS. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. THEY DID A REALLY GREAT JOB AT HIDING WHAT'S ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE PRESENTLY. >> THANK YOU, GUYS. [BACKGROUND] >> HOLD ON. MAKE IT QUICK, REAL QUICK. >> I CAN'T DO THAT FOR EVERYBODY. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE TWO QUICK REQUESTS. ONE IS, WHEN THEY DO THEIR STUDY, IT SHOULD BE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, PREFERABLY WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE, AND TWO, THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE INFORMED OF THE DATE, SO WE CAN MONITOR AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> NOW, LET ME ASK SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE WHAT YOU JUST SUGGESTED IS EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD THEM, SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] WHERE'S YOUR FORM? NO. COME ON UP, CHRIS. KEEP IT SHORT, AND YOU ONLY GET ONE OPPORTUNITY. >> TAKE YOUR TIME. >> I'LL TAKE THE TIME. I ASSUME YOU ALL RECEIVED SOME E-MAILS OVER THE MONTHS. >> DON'T MAKE US WAIT THREE HOURS. [OVERLAPPING] >> NO, WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT IF WE ALL KEEP GOING UP. >> HE'S HERE NOW. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I CAME LATE. WE STILL HAD A LOT MORE IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. [BACKGROUND] YOU HAVE ALL HEARD THINGS BEFORE. YOU SEEN MY E-MAILS, THIS WHOLE THING THEY DID. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THERE WERE TWO SITES TO CHOOSE FROM. ONE WHERE MOBERLY FIELDS IS, WHICH WAS COMMERCIAL GENERAL. [INAUDIBLE] THERE NO SPECIAL USE PERMIT. FAR AWAY FROM HOMES, SURROUNDED BY TREES, NOBODY WOULD HAVE EVER HEARD IT. THE OTHER SITE THEY WANTED IS INSIDE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WANTED INSIDE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AT THE END OF WESTBY BOAT, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED BY NOW. IT IMPACTED ALL OF US, IMPACTED [INAUDIBLE] LAND, AND [INAUDIBLE] IT IMPACTED A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT THEY CHOSE THAT ANYWAY, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO GRABSTEIN WITH TESLA, IT SAVES THEM MONEY, AND SUE SAID, SURE, BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE BATTERY PARK SO BAD. JOHN, YOU WERE THERE. YOU REMEMBER ALL THAT STUFF. THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THE CITY TO [INAUDIBLE] THEY KNEW THE PROBLEM. CODY WAS SUED, AND I GAVE YOU ALL THE E-MAILS, SAID HIS BIGGEST FEAR IS OF THE BATTERY PARK BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES AND NOISE ISSUES. HE WAS A MAYOR PRO TEM. HE'S OUR STATE REP. WHEN I ASKED HIM MORE ABOUT IT, HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. I'M GOING TO JUST SHARE A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M GOING TO READ OFF HERE, SO I DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY. WE HAD NUMEROUS NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE EXCESSIVE NOISE FROM THE BATTERY PARK OVER THE YEARS. THE NOISE HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY, WITH PLUS POWER OPERATING THE BATTERY PARK. I'M GOING TO READ YOU TWO E-MAIL RESPONSES FROM THE TWO DIFFERENT BATTERY PARK OPERATORS AND SEE IF YOU NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE TONE OF THE RESPONSE. I RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL FROM MICHAEL GRABSTEIN, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER OF TESLA MEGAPACK, ON MAY 18, 2021. IT IS AS FOLLOWS, HI, CHRIS, FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE RECENT NOISE IMPACTS. I FORGE YOUR TEXT INTERNALLY AND HAVE SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK. NUMBER 1, OVER THE PAST WEEK, LATE AT NIGHT, WE HAVE BEEN EXECUTING SOME HIGH-POWER TESTING FOR UTILITY, WHICH IS THE CAUSE OF THE NOISE. NUMBER 2, SIMILAR ACTIVITY WILL NOT BE COMMON DURING NORMAL OPERATION. NUMBER 3, WE WILL AVOID SIMILAR NIGHTTIME DISPATCH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. GOING FORWARD, HOWEVER, THE UTILITY PREFERS TESTING TO BE CONDUCTED DURING TIMES OF LOWER IMPACT ON THE GRID. THE FANS ON THE BATTERIES ARE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF THE NOISE WILL BE LIMITED TO A LOWER SPEED. A, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY IMPLEMENTED, BUT HAD NOT BEEN PROGRAMMED DURING INITIAL TESTING, AND B, THIS LIMIT IS GETTING IMPLEMENTED ASAP, AS A RESULT OF THIS THREAD, AND IT SHOULD REDUCE NOISE. THANK YOU, AND PLEASE GET ME POSTED ON ANY CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE CHANGES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. THANKS, MICHAEL. NOW, I WANT TO SHOW YOU ANOTHER ONE AND READ ANOTHER ONE TO YOU. THE FOLLOWING IS THE E-MAIL DATED JUNE 8, 2025, [03:00:03] FROM KEITH MERKLE WITH PLUS POWER IN RESPONSE TO A NOISE COMPLAINT FROM A RESIDENT. IT IS AS FOLLOWS. THANK YOU FOR COMMUNICATING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMUNICATION OUTLINING YOUR CONCERN. GAMBIT ENERGY STORAGE ENDEAVORS TO BE EXCELLENT NEIGHBORS. THE PROJECT, WHICH IS DEMONSTRABLY HELPING THE TEXAS MARKET WITH PRODUCT RELIABILITY, IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL ORDINANCES. NEVERTHELESS, GAMBIT ENERGY STORAGE CONSTRUCTED AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER TO FURTHER MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL FOR NOISE CONCERNS. WE INVITE YOU TO DISCUSS THE LOCAL ORDINANCE DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY. THANK YOU, AND HAVE A GREAT WEEK, KEITH. NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT MICHAEL, HE APOLOGIZED. HE SAYS IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. HE EVEN CALLED ME. HE TOLD ME THAT IF YOU CAN GET TO THE BATTERY PARK, IT'S NOT OPERATING EFFICIENTLY. HE'S A BIG SHOT WITH TESLA. WHAT PLUS POWER IS DOING, THEY'RE NOT OPERATING AS THEY SHOULD. LET ME READ A COUPLE OF THINGS. I ALSO LIKE HOW [INAUDIBLE], THEY'RE OPERATING PER CITY ORDINANCE. THEY WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO OPERATE AT 85 DECIBELS. [INAUDIBLE] EMERSON, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER HER. SHE SAID, AS SOMEBODY, LANCE ALLUDED TO, IT WOULD BE LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS, WELL FAR AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE. THAT WAS PRESENTED AT EVERY TOWN HALL MEETING, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING. EVERYTHING WE HEARD, THAT WAS IT. THAT'S WHAT WE GO BY. YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT. BUT SOMEHOW, THEY GOT IT AHEAD. THEY CAN RUN AT 85, BUT IT WAS NEVER APPROVED. OR IF IT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS DONE OUTSIDE. WE DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING. WE COULD HAVE PUT UP A BIGGER FIGHT OR ARRANGED OTHER STUFF, BUT WE DIDN'T, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE CITY WAS ON OUR SIDE. THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS ABOUT, LET'S SEE. I'M TRYING TO GO FAST FOR A JOB. [INAUDIBLE] WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY AT ALL TOWN HALL EVENTS, COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND IS INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE, PROVING THE BATTERY PARK IS LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS, STILL FAR AWAY FROM RESIDENTS. YOU CANNOT PRESENT ONE THING TO THE COMMUNITY AND DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BEHIND THE COMMUNITY'S BACK. EXPECT TO GET AWAY WITH IT. THE 40-DECIBEL LIMIT THAT WAS PRESENTED MUST BE ENFORCED. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED BY PLUS POWER AT EVERY TOWN AND COUNCIL MEETING. THIS DOCUMENT SHOWED THE LAYOUT OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THE SITE, THE TENSION, AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES. WHAT WAS PRESENTED IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT WAS BUILT. THIS NEW LAYOUT HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION, THEREBY, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF SIGNIFICANT TREES AND SHRUBS THAT PROVIDED A VISUAL NOISE DETERRENT. I CONTACTED MICHAEL GRABSTEIN. HE SAID THE CITY ALWAYS KNEW THERE WOULD BE A NEW PLAN. MY QUESTION IS, WHY WAS THE COMMUNITY NOT INFORMED OF THIS WHEN IT HAD SUCH A HUGE IMPACT, THE NOISE AND VISIBILITY? WHY DID OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCEAL IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY? IT'S NOW SEVEN YEARS OF FIGHTING FOR OUR RIGHTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN DENIED DUE PROCESS AS THE CITY PRESENTED ONE THING TO THE COMMUNITY WHILE THEY WERE APPROVING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.WE WERE DENIED DUE PROCESS TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES IN THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE WITHOUT SHARING WITH THOSE IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW BIG A VIOLATION IT IS FOR A MUNICIPALITY TO DENY DUE PROCESS AND THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS TO OUR CITY. I HAVE WITNESSED OUTRIGHT DECEPTION, LIES, COVER-UPS, POSSIBLE COLLUSION BY THE SUPPOSED LEADERS OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU. >> ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. >> THANK YOU, MR. PELTIER. WHERE TO START? >> FIRST, MR. PELTIER, I'M THE ONLY PERSON ON HERE THAT WAS ON COUNSEL AT THAT TIME. I PROMISE YOU I DID NOT COLLUDE IN ANY WAY. I DID NOT MISINFORM. THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME I WAS EVER TOLD THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT THAT WAY. IF THEY CHANGED THINGS, IT DID NOT COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT I WAS AWARE OF THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED INTERNALLY AFTER THE APPROVAL. I DON'T KNOW. >> IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE SAID JASON PAN MAYOR. THIS IS ATTACHED TO IT. >> GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOW THAT OUR HOUSES ARE THING [INAUDIBLE] >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOU DIDN'T GO TO THE SITE? WHY YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE THE SITE WHERE ALL THAT FIELDS IS? YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE. >> I REMEMBER THE QUESTION COMING UP, AND THEY WERE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT A WETLAND AND THEY DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS USABLE. THAT WAS THE AREA THAT, [03:05:01] THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY, AT THE TIME, WAS WANTING TO USE THAT PROPERTY FOR THIS PARK AND IT WAS CLOSE TO THE SUB-STATION. THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT. >> YOU COULD HAVE ASKED YOUR CITY ENGINEER THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WETLAND. THAT CAN WORK. IT WAS THERE, BUT IT WAS ALL THE ROOFS. >> MR. FELTER, WOULD YOU JUST COME TO THE MICROPHONE? I DON'T KNOW WHO'S WATCHING AT HOME, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CAPTURED. YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, LET'S HAVE TRANSPARENCY. >> MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE PROCESS? OR WHAT? >> NO. YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH THE MAYOR. EVERYTHING'S BEING RECORDED. >> IT WAS TELEVISED AND RECORDED, SO WE'RE IN THE CAPTURE. >> THAT'S ALL. >> THERE WAS NO REASON NOT TO CHOOSE A SITE THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP. YOU WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS ISSUE. YOU DID IT BASED ON WHAT I HEARD FROM MICHAEL GRABSTEIN. HE'S A GUY WHO DESIGNED TO BUILD THIS. HE'S DOES THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. YOU ALL DID IT TO SAVE THEM SOME MONEY. THE CONNECTION TO THE TRANSMISSION TOWER WAS CHEAP. YOU ALSO DIDN'T ADVISE US THAT YOU WERE CHANGING. MICHAEL GRABSTEIN TOLD ME THERE WAS A BIG CHANGE IN THE DESIGN OF THIS PLAN THAT WAS NEVER PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT HE SAID Y'ALL KNEW ABOUT IT. >> I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. >> WELL, HE SAID CITY KNEW THAT. >> WHO IS HE? >> DID YOU SAY YOU, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY SPECIFIC THAT IF THE DESIGN WAS CHANGED IT WAS NOT INFERRED THAT WAY TO THE COUNSEL AT THE TIME. I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS HERE. >> BUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF ONE OF THE AGENDA PACKETS AND WHAT WAS, ACTUALLY, BUILT DO NOT MATCH UP. THE DOCUMENTS AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE EXACTLY. >> THAT'S NOT THAT THE COUNSEL KNEW ABOUT THAT. >> IT'S PART OF THE PACKET. TECHNICALLY, YOU GUYS KNEW ABOUT IT WHEN YOU APPROVED IT. >> IT WAS PROVED. MOLLY EMERSON PRESENTED ALL OF THAT. ANYBODY LISTENING THERE WOULD KNOW WHEN SHE SAID LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS, LIKE WATER, RAIN DROPS. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD GO BY. YOU HAVE A TOWN HALL. YOU HAVE COME TO YOUR TOWN HALL FOR ANYTHING. YOU GIVE US THE FACTS. YOU WERE GIVEN FACTS BY MOLLY EMERSON PLUS POWER. THAT'S ALL WE GO BY. CITY WAS LISTENING. YOU WERE THERE. CODY WAS THERE. CODY WAS A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT. HE WAS THE ONE I ENTRUSTED ON SEVERAL THINGS, AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. YOU CANNOT SIT HERE AND LET US LISTEN TO SOMEBODY THAT YOU BROUGHT IN TO PRESENT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND TELL US ALL THIS STUFF. THEN BEHIND THE SCENES, WE FOUND OUT Y'ALL NOT ENFORCING THE 40 DECIBELS WAS THE ONLY NUMBER WE HAD AND THEN YOU'RE NOT ENFORCING WHEN THEY WENT IN AND CHANGED IT, AND MIGUEL, MICHAEL GRABSTEIN, BOTH SAID THE PLAN THAT THEY PRESENTED AT LAST WAS ALWAYS ONE THEY WE PRESENT. BUT Y'ALL PRESENTED US A BOGUS PRESENTATION. IT WASN'T YOU BOGUS. IT WAS MOLLY ANDERSON AND PLUS POWER. BUT WE TRUSTED Y'ALL THAT Y'ALL VERIFIED ALL THE STOPS. NOW WE COME TO FIND OUT IT'S ALL ABOVE THIS, AND YET WE'RE PAYING THE PRICE. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE. YOU HAD A SITE. THEY WOULD HAVE TOOK THAT SITE. HE SAID THEY WOULD OPEN THE SAVE MONEY ON CONNECTION FEES. SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE PUT THEIR THUMB ON THE SCALE. I KNOW YOU REMEMBER THE CITY MANAGER. HE CALLED ME ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, HE'S TRYING TO GET ME TO SUPPORTED, CODY, TRIED TO GET ME SUPPORTED. I SENT HIM A VERY SHARP LETTER. I'M NOT GOING TO SELL MY COMMUNITY OUT, BUT THEY WANTED ME TO SUPPORT IT SO WHEN IT HIT THE FAN, WHICH THE FAN IS PRETTY RIGHT NOW, THAT I CAN TAKE THE BE FOR IT, WHICH WAS PRETTY BAD WAY TO DO IT. BUT ANYWAY, THE CITY AND I'VE DONE I DEVELOPED THIS SUBDIVISION, I DEVELOPED MULTIPLE SUBDIVISIONS. I ADDED $150,200 MILLION IN AGE OF THE CITY. I'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE WORST GROUP OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AS FAR AS HANDLING ANYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN. WE, BASICALLY, GROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDER THE BUS. THIS IS JUST THESE PEOPLE. I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE AT THE WESTSIDE OAK. THERE WAS NO REASON TO DO THAT TO THEM EITHER. >> WHO WAS THERE? >> HERE IT'S THEIR WHOLE VISUALS TO POP. >> WELL, IF WE BUY PROPERTY. WE BOUGHT 200 ACRES, THAT SINGLE SUBDIVISION IS BIGGER THAN ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE PROTECTION OF SINGLE FAMILY ALL THE WAY AROUND US. EVERYBODY HERE, MAKE AN INVESTMENT SUBDIVISION, THEY WERE PROTECTED. YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO GO IN AND TAKE THIS SINGLE FAMILY ZONE PROPERTY AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE. YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT THING, BUT THE CITY DID IT. YOU DIDN'T CARE THE IMPLICATIONS. WHEN YOU HAD ANOTHER OPT, [03:10:01] THEY WOULD HAVE TOOK THE OTHER SITE, BUT YOU ALL SAID YOU DIDN'T COME HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> CAN THEY MOVE IT NOW? >> MISS BOX, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? WANT TO TALK ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION. >> YES. >> YOU'RE THE ONE YOU FIRST BROUGHT UP THE LIGHT POLLUTION LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S ONLY INTO MY HOUSE. >> HAS IT BEEN FIXED? ARE YOU STILL SEEING IT? >> WE HAVE NOT HAD IT RECENTLY, NO. >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU REMEMBER SEEING IT? >> PROBABLY SPRING OF 2025. >> USUALLY, TAKES CARE OF IT? >> YES. USUALLY IF I HAVE AN ISSUE, I CAN JUST TEXT MR. PELT HERE AND HILL. CONTACT TURNED OFF EVENTUALLY. >> IS IT STILL POINT AT YOUR HOUSE? >> IT IS OPENING AT OUR HOUSE, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN ON. >> THANK YOU. MISS MCDANIEL, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO ASK MR. WORM THE SAME QUESTION. I DID BRING UP THE QUESTION OF SOUND AND TAKING THE READINGS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE BESIDES RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR PROPERTY. IF I CAN GET THEM TO COME AND DO THE SOUND STUDY ON YOUR SIDE, YOU'LL LET THEM IN YOUR BACKYARD, YOU'LL LET THEM IN YOUR AREA? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> IF THERE'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE CREDIT TO MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNS, AND HE SUGGESTED IT, AND I'VE BROUGHT IT UP TO GAMBIT A RETAINING OR A SOUND WALL ALONG YOUR BACK FENCE, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO THAT? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THEIR SIDE OF THE EASEMENT? >> ON THEIR SIDE OF THE EASEMENT? >> NO. NOBODY WOULD WANT THAT. >> I CAN SEE THE TREES BACK THERE. THEY TOOK DOWN ONE OF THE LARGEST OAK TREES, IN THAT AREA, TO PUT THAT BIG DISTRIBUTION. IT GOES TO CHRIS'S POINT, THE THING WAS FLIPPED, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT, BUT I SAW HIM TAKE DOWN A TREE THAT WAS TALLER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE YOU COULD SEE THERE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE A WALL IN MY BACKYARD. >> I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DITCH? >> I STILL CAN'T SEE THE TREES. THE 20 FOOT WALL THEY CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ISN'T EFFECTIVE. >> THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PLANT TREES FROM MARCH 26 OF 2024. THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT, AND THEY'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN BACK THERE. >> THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. >> I WAS THINKING, HOPEFULLY, THEY WOULD PLANT BIG TREES AND NOT LITTLE TREES BECAUSE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT MIGHT WORK. >> OTIS, WHAT TREES WERE THEY SUGGESTING THEY WERE GOING TO PLANT? >> WE NEVER DERIVED THE CORRECT OR THE MOST PROBABLE SPECIES. WE DISCUSSED OPTIONS. OUR SUGGESTION WAS TO HIRE AN ARBORIST SLASH AND LANDSCAPE DESIGNER, AND COME BACK WITH A FEASIBLE PLAN THAT WOULD SHOW THE PLANTINGS. >> WEREN'T THEY TALKING ABOUT EVERGREENS, THOUGH? >> WE DISCUSSED TYPES OF EVERGREENS, BUT THE SPECIES WE HAVE NOT DERIVED AT THAT POINT YET. >> OTIS, ARE THEY LISTENING ONLINE TONIGHT? >> YES. WE DO HAVE TWO MEMBERS AT POWER PLUS PRESENT ON THE AUDIO. THEY ARE ON THE CALL TEST YOUR AUDIO, KEITH, WHO WERE EVER SING? >> KEN MCINTOSH, CAN YOU HEAR US LOUD AND PLEA? >> I CAN HEAR YOU, KEN. KEN, DO YOU REMEMBER THE TREES? >> YES, SIR. >> WHAT TREES WERE YOU PLANTING? >> THE REQUEST WAS EVERGREENS. WE DID HIRE A LOCAL LANDSCAPER WHO SUGGESTED THERE SOME MAGNOLIAS THEY PUT IN, WHICH, AS PEOPLE KNOW, IS VERY SLOW GROWING. ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND THE OTHER CITY STAFF, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO EXPLORING, WORKING WITH Y'ALL, WHAT KIND OF SPECIES AND EVERGREENS WOULD BE BETTER OR AN OPTION. THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH YOU IS, WHAT COULD WE DO? WHAT SPECIES WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND DEFINITELY WORK WITH OUR LANDSCAPER? [03:15:03] >> SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TANNER SAID, I DON'T IF YOU GUYS KNOW IT, BUT YOU NEED TO GET PLANT NOW BECAUSE IT GETS HOT HERE AND NOTHING'S GO, AND THAT WAS 24. HE'S NOW SAYING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS WITH Y'ALL AND MAGNOLIAS. WE ARE OAK TREES DOWN HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. BUT ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT THE STUDY AND NEVER COME IN MY BACKYARD. WE WOULD LIKE A THIRD-PARTY, NOT THEM DOING THEIR OWN STUDY. WE THOUGHT THE CITY WAS GOING TO HIRE A THIRD-PARTY AND THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY. >> INDEPENDENT? >> NO. >> MAYOR MAY I JUST COMMENT ON THE STUDY? >> YES, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO LISTEN IN AND HEARING YOUR ISSUES AND CONCERNS. ON THE STUDY ITSELF. IT IS AN INDEPENDENT STUDY BY DUKE. IT IS THEIR EQUIPMENT, THEIR MEASUREMENTS, THEIR ANALYSIS. WE ARE PAYING FOR IT, YES, BECAUSE WE'RE ASKED TO DO THAT THROUGH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, AND WE'RE DOING IT TWICE A YEAR. WE ARE DOING IT DIFFERENT TIMES BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE DIFFERENT SEASONAL TEMPERATURES, ONE IN THE COOLER MONTHS, ONE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, SO THAT WE GET A GOOD RESULT FROM THEM ON POTENTIAL SEASONAL IMPACTS AND THE NOISE AS THE BATTERIES OPERATE. I WILL STRESS THAT WE DO NOT ALTER OUR OPERATIONS. DURING THOSE TESTS, WE WANT AND WE HAVE RECORDED THE PERIODS OF TIME WHEN ALL THE FANS ARE RUNNING AT 100% AND LOWER. THEY DO CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE DISPATCH TIMES, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF AND TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE DO NOT GO AND MANIPULATE THE SPEED OF THOSE FANS OR CHANGE OUR OPERATIONS DURING THE FAN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. IT IS AN INDEPENDENT STUDY. WE DON'T TOUCH THE RESULTS. WE GET THEM, THEY PRESENT IT TO US, AND WE FORWARD THAT REPORT ON TO THE CITY. >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON? >> QUICK. >> NO IS AN OKAY ANSWER. YOU'RE MAYOR NOW. >> QUICK. >> REAL QUICK. >> I'M TRYING TO BE AS HELPFUL AS I CAN. >> YOU GUYS MIGHT NOT DIRECTLY INTERVENE IN THE OPERATION OF YOUR BATTERY SYSTEM. HOWEVER, THROUGH TESLA'S AUTO BIDDER, YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF WHEN YOU WILL OPERATE YOUR BATTERY AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS FOR WHAT MARKET PRICES YOU'RE WILLING TO HAVE IT TURNED DOWN. BASED ON THAT AND THE DATA YOU CAN FIND IN ERCOT, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT OPERATING THE SAME WAY IT DOES ALL THE REST OF THE TIMES OF THE YEAR. >> MISS DENHOUSE, CAN YOU COME FOR YOU, PLEASE? >> I'M BEING CALLED TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE. YES, SIR. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THINGS ADDRESSED FOR PEOPLE. OTIS, WHEN MISS DENHOUSE HAS AN ISSUE AND SHE NEEDS SOMEONE TO TALK TO ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND WHAT'S GOING ON, WHO SHOULD SHE CONTACT? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SEE OUR PD DRIVING AROUND WITH DECIBEL READERS. >> WE DO HAVE A DECIBEL READING IN OUR DEPARTMENT. WE DID PURCHASE ONE ALSO. >> SATURDAY EVENING WHEN THIS THING GOES WRONG. >> DEPARTMENTS, BUT WEEKENDS AND AFTER HOURS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE RANGE THAT, OH, MAY BE OUT OF TOWN. I GIVE OUT OF TOWN, BUT WE CAN ARRANGE AN APPOINTMENT WHEN THERE'S. MY E-MAILS COME TO MY PORTAL AT HOME. >> I GUESS I WANT TO ASK KEN, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. IT'S KEN. >> IT WAS KEN. KEN, IS THERE A CONTACT SOMEBODY CAN GET A HOLD OF AND SAY, HEY, WHY IS IT SO LOUD OVER THERE? CAN SOMEBODY HELP THEM? >> YES, WE DO HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT THEY CAN GO OFF. >> HANG ON A SECOND. >> DO YOU HAVE A HOTLINE? >> WE CAN EXPLORE THAT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A HOTLINE DIRECT TO SOMEONE 24/7, BUT WE CAN EXPLORE THAT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO BE [03:20:03] DIRECTLY TO CALL US AT 7:00 AM IN THE MORNING ON SATURDAY MORNING. LET US TAKE THAT BACK. WE DO HAVE 24/7 OPERATIONS THAT MONITOR THE FACILITY. WE JUST HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT IF THEY RECEIVE A CALL FROM YOU, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECEIVING A CALL AND DEALING WITH IT APPROPRIATELY. DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE. >> IS KIM WATCHING THIS? >> YES. >> HE'S WATCHING IT. >> HE'S WATCHING. >> FANTASTIC. HEY, YOU GUYS, COME UP HERE. COME ON. COME ON UP HERE ALL OF YOU. >> AS LONG AS I KEEP SPEAKING, IT'LL BE RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME. >> [BACKGROUND] >> I'M LOOKING IT'S A LITTLE DELAY HERE, BUT I CAN SEE YOU SING IN FRONT OF THE MAYOR, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO. >> THANK YOU. >> WHEN THEY SAID THEY COULD BE HERE ON SITE IN THE COUNCIL MEETING? >> THAT WAS THE PURPOSE WHY WE PUT THE ACTION ON THERE BECAUSE IF THERE'S DIRECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO STAFF OR ANY OTHER THE INDIVIDUALS? >> CORRECT. >> TAKE CARE OF THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER. A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT, IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATION OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE VISITS OF THE SOUND AND THE PLACEMENT, COOPERATION, CONDITIONS OF THE WEATHER MORE INFORMATION IN THE STUDY SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THE CONDITIONS WERE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. >> I REMEMBER I ASKED IF THEY COULD DO IT MORE THAN ONCE A QUARTER. I WANTED THE SOUND SAYING MORE THAN ONCE. TWICE A YEAR IS WHAT YOU SAID, KEN, AND I ASKED MORE THAN THAT. >> I CURRENTLY DO IT TWICE A YEAR. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. THE DISCUSSION I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO EXPLORE THAT AROUND WHAT OTHER INFORMATION WOULD BE USEFUL IN THE STUDY. I THINK WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT TO HELP WITH THAT TRANSPARENCY. OPEN TO DISCUSSING MORE ON THAT. >> WHAT ARE THE MONTHS THAT THEY DO IN MARCH? >> I ASKED IF IT WOULD BE POSTED BEFOREHAND, BECAUSE I WANT ALL TO KNOW WHEN THE STUDIES ARE GOING TO BE DONE, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CALIBRATED TOGETHER. >> WHEN DO THEY HAVE? MARCH. >> AUGUST AND IN MARCH. >> IF YOU WANT A EXTRA STUDY DONE, THAT'S NOT IN PERPETUITY. BUT IF IT HELPS WITH THE EDUCATION OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, WE CAN ENTERTAIN DOING EXTRA STUDIES, AS YOU POINTED OUT, MAYOR. >> YES. >> BUT WE DON'T WANT TO COMMIT AT THIS POINT TO DOING THAT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, SO JUST VERIFYING THAT WITH YOU. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE DATA POINT LOCATION, ADDING MORE LOCATIONS AS MENTIONED THIS EVENING. >> IT NEEDS TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARDS. >> YES, SIR. >> IT NEEDS TO BE ON WEST LIBBOCK. >> WE TALKED ABOUT SCREENING AND PLANTING OF TREES IN THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKED ABOUT FOR A WALL, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOMETHING IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON THAT FROM THEM. >> I NEED A COMMITMENT FROM POWER PLUS, GAMBIT, WHOEVER TO BE HERE AT THE FEBRUARY COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE ACTION PLAN. CAN THAT BE MADE? >> DID YOU SAY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? >> FEBRUARY. >> CAN YOU LOOK AT THE DATES? >> I THINK 23. >> FEBRUARY 10 AND 24. >> JUST SO I'M CLEAR. [03:25:01] WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACTION, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> ALL THE ABOVE. I NEED TO KNOW. >> THERE WAS A LOT BY PACK. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE NEED A HOTLINE. WE NEED SOME WAY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU. THAT'S ONE. WE NEED TO KNOW DECIMAL READINGS. HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE A SOUND STUDY DONE BY THEN? >> NO. THE NEXT STUDY IS BEING CONDUCTED IN FEBRUARY FOR A MARCH REPORT TO BE SUBMITTED. >> IN FEBRUARY FOR A MARCH REPORT. HOW ABOUT THE FIRST MEETING. WOULD YOU HAVE IT BY THE FIRST MEETING OF MARCH? BECAUSE WE GOT TO HAVE THAT PIECE OF DATA. >> WE WILL NOT HAVE IT FOR THE FIRST MEETING OF MARCH. MAYBE THE SECOND MEETING OF MARCH, I CAN COMMIT THAT WE HAVE THE REPORT, BRADY. >> YOU'RE ON SITE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING? >> WE CAN BE AT THE SITE OF MARCH. THAT GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. WE ONLY GOT NOTIFICATION LATE LAST WEEK THAT THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM. OTHERWISE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GET FOLKS THERE. BUT FOR END OF MARCH 24 IS TO BEING THERE, MEET YOU ALL. >> IF THIS BATTERY IS NOT OPERATING AT ITS FULL RATED CAPACITY, ANY SOUND STUDY THEY DO UNDER ANY DATE IS NOT GOING TO BE RELEVANT. >> YOU'RE ALL GOING TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO CALIBRATE AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO KNOW WHAT DAY THEY'RE DOING THE STUDY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN YOUR BACKYARD. >> I'M SAYING THE SOUND MEASUREMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE REPRESENTATIVE IF THE BATTERY IS NOT MANUALLY SET TO ITS FULL RATE. >> GOT IT. >> WE CAN PROVIDE DATA THAT SHOWS DURING THOSE PERIODS AND FOR THAT STUDY IN FEBRUARY, THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES DURING THOSE 24 HOUR PERIODS AS WHY WE DO IT FOR 24 HOURS OVER FIVE DAYS, THAT THERE IS FULL OPERATION OF THE COOLING SYSTEMS AND THE FANS OPERATING. IT IS PASSING OUT THE MAXIMUM OVER THAT 24 PERIOD OVER THE FIVE DAY. >> PROVIDED MINUTE LEVEL DATA. >> ALSO, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE OTHER DAY THAT THE LIGHT HAS BEEN FIXED AND TURNED AND THAT LIGHT IS STILL SHINING THAT WAY THAT DIRECTION. >> I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT. WE HAVEN'T HAD A COMPLAINT SINCE 2024 WHEN WE FIRST GOT THAT COMPLAINT OF THE LIGHT COMING INTO, I FORGET THE LADY'S NAME. I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE DID CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE GOT THE NOTIFICATION, THAT LIGHT IS OFF. IT IS NORMALLY OPERATED OFF, IT'S NOT TURNED ON. THE ONLY REASON WE WOULD TURN THAT LIGHT ON IS IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION FOR SAFETY REASONS. IT'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE SITE. BUT IT IS NOT OPERATED. THERE'S EVEN SIGNS TO SAY DO NOT OPERATE THIS LIGHT. WE HAVE ALSO PHYSICALLY ANGLED THE LIGHT DOWN. WHEN IT IS ON IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, IT SHOULD NOT BE SHINING DIRECTLY INTO THE PERSON'S BACK YARD. >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THAT TO CHANGE IT, CHANGE THE DIRECTION. >> HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT AND LOOK AT THAT. >> COUNSEL, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT FOR THE MEETING IN MARCH, WHICH IS MARCH THE 24? >> ABOUT THE DATA. >> I GOT SOME COMMENTS AFTER ANYONE WANTS TO SHARE WITH THEY WOULD LIKE. >> GO AHEAD. >> THE RESIDENTS ARE CORRECT WITH THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED BASED OFF OF THE JANUARY 14, 2020 TOWN HALL PRESENTATION AND THE MEETING THAT COUNCIL VOTED ON THIS. INFORMATION I'M ABOUT TO PRESENT. IT'S A LOT, PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. IT FROM THE PRESENTATION, IT'S FROM THE SUP. IT IS EXPLAINING WHAT WAS PROMISED TO OUR TOWN, COUNCIL ACTUALLY VOTED ON. ALSO, I HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT THE BATTERY, AND I HAVE NEW SOURCES THAT BACK THAT UP. IN THE SUP, IT SAYS THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL WILL AID WITH REDUCING SOUND WRONG. THEN IT SAID THAT THE SOUND LEVEL EMITTED FROM THE ENERGY PARK SHALL BE NO LOUDER THAN THE AVERAGE AMBRAN NOISE LEVEL PRIOR TO INSTALLATION OF THE PROJECT, MEASURED AT 100 FEET FROM THE PROJECT OUTSIDE THE PARCEL BOUNDARY AND THE NEAREST EXISTING RECEPTOR. WRONG. ALSO IN THE SUP, NOISE. [03:30:02] ACCORDING TO PLUS POWER, THERE ARE MINIMAL ANTICIPATED NOISE IMPACTS TO EXISTING RESIDENTS. WRONG. THE ANTICIPATED NOISE LEVEL AT THE PROJECT BOUNDARY IS LESS THAN 55 DECIBEL LEVELS, WRONG, NOISE LEVEL. RIGHT THERE, THEY'RE TELLING US THAT THE EXISTING AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS LESS THAN 55. THEY GO ON TO FURTHER SAY IN THE SUP. THE SOUND LEVEL WILL DROP FURTHER AS A FUNCTION OF DISTANCE. WRONG. I'VE MEASURED IT AT 750 FEET AWAY FROM MY FRONT PORCH AT 60 DECIBELS. AT 5:30 TODAY BEFORE WE LEFT, IT WAS NOT RUNNING, AND MY FRONT PORCH WAS 35 DECIBELS. IT GOES ON TO SAY IN THE SUP THAT THE SOUND LEVEL WILL DROP AND WILL BE LESS THAN 40 DECIBEL LEVELS AT 100 FEET AWAY. WRONG. THIS REPRESENTS THE SOUND OF WATER ON A WINDOW, AND AT 100 FEET. THIS IS STILL FAR AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTS. FROM THE PRESENTATION, IT SAID THAT THE PERMIT WILL REQUIRE THE SOUND TO BE LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS AT THE PARTIAL BOUNDARY, A QUIET ROOM. THIS WAS IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED BOTH TO CITIZENS AND TO COUNCIL. THEN IT SAYS SOUND IMPACTS. PROJECT EQUIPMENT APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET FROM THE NEAREST HOME. TRANSFORMERS OPERATE IN 60-80 DECIBELS. BATTERY PARKS LESS THAN 74 DECIBELS. THIS IS ALL ON THE PRESENTATION. SOUND DECREASES AT AN INVERSE DISTANCE. NOT THIS FREQUENCY. THE SUP WILL REQUIRE PROJECT NOISE TO BE LESS THAN 40 DECIBELS AT A PARCEL BOUNDARY 200 FEET FROM SOURCE LIKE A QUIET ROOM. THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION. THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 14, 20 MEETING SHOW THAT SOUND WAS A HUGE CONCERN, AND THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT MADE TO INSERT A SOUND STUDY SHALL BE CONDUCTED TO DETERMINE THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL PRIOR TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE PROJECT. NOW INTO SAFETY. DUE TO SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE PARKS IN TEXAS PROPOSED BY DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, THEY FACED SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY OPPOSITION AND POTENTIAL DELAYS OR CANCELLATIONS. IN THE KATY AREA, THE RESIDENTS WERE SUCCESSFULLY VOICED THEIR OPPOSITION FOR A PROJECT THAT WAS NEAR A SCHOOL. COUNCIL VOTED AGAINST IT. IN GLASPIE COUNTY NEAR HARPER ISD, A PROJECT HAD INTENSE COMMUNITY OUTRAGE BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSE TO A SCHOOL. FAYETTEVILLE COUNTY OR FAYETTE COUNTY. LAND OWNERS FILED A LAWSUIT TO STOP A PLANNED SYSTEM DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AND SAFETY. BLESS YOU. WE HAVE THREE SCHOOL CAMPUSES, A DAYCARE, AND A NURSING HOME, ALL LOCATED WITHIN THE DANGER EVACUATION ZONE, NOT TO MENTION THE HUNDREDS OF HOMES. THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS REACHED A SETTLEMENT WITH THE COMPANY THAT OPERATES OTA MESA ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY IN CALIFORNIA THAT CAUGHT FIRE. THE GATEWAY ENERGY STORAGE CONCERNS, CLEANUP EFFORTS, IN CONNECTION WITH THE LITHIUM ION BATTERY FIRE BROKE OUT MAY 15, 2024. IT LASTED NEARLY TWO WEEKS AT THE SITE WITH 40 FIREFIGHTERS WORKING FROM THREE DEPARTMENTS. THE EPA SOUTHWEST REGION ADMINISTRATOR, JOSH COOK SAID IN A STATEMENT, I AM ALARMED BY THE INCIDENTS AND IMPACTS OF UTILITY GRADE BATTERY FIRES ON FIRST RESPONDERS. SPECIFICALLY, THE PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE EXPOSED TO THE HORRIBLE TOXIC CONDITIONS WHEN BATTERIES CATCH FIRE. THIS SETTLEMENT ACTION IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THE BROADER BATTERY STORAGE FIRE ISSUE REQUIRES ADDITIONAL ATTENTION AND EPA ENFORCEMENT. THAT FIRE PROMPTED EVACUATION OF 500 BUSINESSES AND CANCELED SCHOOLS, AND A HOSPITAL HAD A SHELTER IN PLACE THAT WAS ONLY 1,600 FEET AWAY. MAY OF 2024, CLEANUP WAS STILL ONGOING FOR THIS SITE. AS OF DECEMBER 2025, OVER A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, IT'S STILL BEING CLEANED UP, AND HERE'S A BIG KICKER. THE CALIFORNIA FLATS PROJECT IS THE SAME SIZE AS OURS AND THE SAME AGE. IT CAUGHT FIRE IN 2024 AT ONLY 3-YEARS-OLD. THEY EVACUATED A TWO MILE RADIUS, WHICH IS BASICALLY OUR WHOLE TOWN. THE MAJORITY OF AISD SCHOOLS ARE BUSINESS DISTRICT, THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, TRAIN YARD, AND THE STATE TPS OFFICE. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE. THERE WAS A HUGE FIRE AT A MOSS LANDING BATTERY PLANT IN JANUARY OF 2025. SOIL SAMPLES SHOWED HEAVY METALS IN SURFACE DUST, MILES FROM THE SCENE AT LEVELS THAT ONE TOXICOLOGIST CALLS CONCERNING, NOTABLE HIGH LEVELS OF NICKEL, COBALT AND MANGANESE, THE THREE COMPONENTS OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. [03:35:02] ALL THREE ELEMENTS HAVE POTENTIAL SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM HEALTH EFFECTS, INCLUDING RESPIRATORY INFLAMMATION. WHEN THEY'RE BREATHED IN, THEY'RE ALSO NEUROTOXINS AND CARCINOGENS. THE MOSS LANDING AREA RESIDENTS WERE ADVISED TO WEAR MASKS AS THEY DUST THEIR HOMES AND BE CAREFUL NOT TO DISTURB THE SOIL IN THEIR YARDS OR FLOWER BEDS. AS OF SEPTEMBER OF 2025, NINE MONTHS AFTER THE FIRE, RESIDENTS HAVE GOTTEN SICK AND ARE ANXIOUS, THEY'RE AFRAID TO LET THEIR CHILDREN PLAY OUTSIDE OR GO OUT FOR WALKS. NOW, ONE YEAR AFTER THE FIRE, UNIVERSITY RESEARCHERS HAVE FOUND 55,000 POUNDS OF HEAVY METALS EMBEDDED IN THE SOIL. IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNSEL AS SAFE. IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNSEL AS QUIET. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE A GINNY PIG. IT WAS NEW. WE DIDN'T KNOW THE DANGERS, AND NOW THE DANGERS ARE HEADLINE NEWS. >> WE GET THIS CALL? NOT LIKE IT CATCHES FIRE. >> ENTIRELY TRUE. >> I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK IN OPEN MEETING ON IT. >> I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID? >> I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK IN AN OPEN MEETING ON IT. >> ALL I'LL ASK IS MR. RANDALL, WILL YOU PLEASE LOOK AT THE SEP? LOOK AT WHAT WAS PROMISED, IT'S IN ALL OF OUR DATA, THE PACKING VERSUS WHAT HAS BEEN BUILT. WAS THERE A WAY TO SWITCH? AND WITH THE OPTIONS WE HAVE ON THE TABLE. FOR MARCH 25TH. >> I THINK AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, WE NEED TO LOOK INTO CONTRACTING TO BRING IN A STATIONARY INSTRUMENT THAT 24/7. THAT'S WHAT IS NEEDED. >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU SPEAK UP. >> SO IF WE WERE TO CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY TO DO THAT. >> WHAT? >> DO WE WANT TO. >> THEY'RE USING A $1,500 HANDHELD IS WHAT THEY'RE USING. >> RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING YOU NEED TO- WE NEED TO ACCESSIBLE MONITORING. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED 24/7. >> AND WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT FIRM WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. AND IT NEEDS TO BE SET UP. >> THEY KIND OF APPROVE IT PERSUADED IN COURT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. AND WITH REGARD TO THEM, I MEAN, I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCE. THERE'S ANOTHER WORD FOR IT, IT'S GENERALLY SUSPICIOUS, BUT, IN FAIRNESS, I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE AND I'VE HEARD THIS, THE TESTING IS JUST FALLING LUCKY ON DAYS WHERE IT'S QUIET. SO PLAUSIBLE. >> 24/7 WILL SHOW THAT DIFFERENCE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. THIS IS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO WE NEED TO I CAN LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE WHO WE NEED TO GET. >> I LOOK AT IT, AND OTIS, CAN YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THAT FOR US? >> YES. >> AND SEND US INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT COSTS, WHERE WE COULD GET IT, WHERE WE COULD PLANT IT, AND PUT IT. CAN YOU DO THAT? >> AND WE NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT WHO THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO DO THIS WITH THE INSTRUMENTS NEED TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY. WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT SOME SOUND ENGINEERING BACKGROUND. IT NEEDS TO BE AFFIRMED THAT IS NOT JUST GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND STICK AN INSTRUMENT ON A POLE. I WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOOD AT THIS. I WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN TO COURT BEFORE. >> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL WANT TO TALK? TO ALL THE RESIDENTS HERE TONIGHT, THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE ARE LISTENING. [03:40:02] WE ARE WORKING WITHIN THE OPERATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN DO. IT'S I GUESS I HAVE TO SPEAK ON MY OWN BEHALF BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS HERE AT THAT TIME. BUT I WOULD NOT KNOWINGLY HAVE VOTED FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO IMPACT YOUR LIVES THE WAY IT HAS. NOW, I KNOW MR. PELTIER IS A LITTLE UPSET, BUT, I'VE WORKED WITH HIM MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, AND HE KNOWS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO JUST I DON'T GREEN LIGHT THINGS LIKE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REMEMBER ASKING FOR EXTRA TOWN HALLS ON THIS PROJECT. AND I REMEMBER WE GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, AND IF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS CHANGED AFTER THE APPROVAL OR IT WAS CHANGED BY SOMEBODY ELSE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DID NOT KNOW. SO IF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WAS ENTERTAINING AT THE TIME. AND I DO REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ON THE OLD LOCATION. AND IT WAS WRITTEN OFF ALMOST INSTANTLY THAT P THAT SPOT WAS NOT VALID AND WOULD NOT WORK. AND IT WAS ALSO BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE GENTLEMAN THAT WANTED TO SELL THE PROPERTY FOR THIS. IT WAS CLOSER TO THE TRANSFORMER, AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT LOCATION. THAT'S HOW IT WAS SOLD. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT RECORD IS CLEAR. ALL RIGHT. >> MR. MA, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT? YES. FIRST OF ALL, JUST ON THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN. I WOULD JUST POINT TO THE MODIFICATION THAT WAS APPROVED MAY 2020, BEFORE CONSTRUCTION. SO JUST PUTTING IT THERE AS YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THAT. SECONDLY, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. WE HEAR YOU. WE WANT TO FIND REASONABLE WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP MITIGATE THE NOISE. AND DEFINITELY TAKING ON WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE STUDY THAT WE'VE NOT TO DO AND WHAT WE CAN INCLUDE IN THAT. WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. AND AGAIN, ON THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE LIGHT AND THE VEGETATION AND LANDSCAPING, THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON. >> DEFINE REASONABLE. >> WELL, COMMENTS ON MOVING THE SITE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT REASONABLE. BUT EFFORTS TO THINK THROUGH INNOVATIVE WAYS TO HELP WITH NOISE REDUCTION, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WELL, TO GO A. >> WE'RE HERE AT THIS POINT, AND THE RESIDENTS ARE MAKING THESE TYPES OF COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF REASON UP TO THIS POINT. I UNDERSTAND. BUT WE HAVE TAKEN ACTION WE VOLUNTARILY BUILT A THREE-QUARTER-MILLION-DOLLAR WALL SOUND BARRIER TO TRY AND FURTHER REDUCE THE NOISE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE. SO WE HAVE- >> HOLD ON. HOLD ON. LET'S BACK UP. I THINK THERE'S A DISPUTE ABOUT WHETHER YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? YOU SAY YOU ARE THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING AT DAY TO DAY ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT. CAN YOU AT LEAST ACCEPT THAT AS A FACT? >> I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS BEING PLOT, POTENTIALLY A FACT. >> THAT'S A FACT, RIGHT? THE FACT IS YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE. THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE DAY TO DAY DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE. SO WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF DISPUTE, RIGHT? >> YEAH. UNDER THE IUP WITH THE BASELINE. >> CORRECT. SO THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, YES, WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF DISPUTE. I MEAN, YOU'RE DISPUTING WHETHER WE THE RESIDENTS, ARE CORRECT. AND THEIR PROCLAMATION THAT YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING WHAT'S BEEN LAID OUT PREVIOUSLY? >> THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORWARD. CORRECT. >> SO WE HAVE A DISPUTE. SO NOW WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. AND YOU'RE SAYING WE GOT TO BE REASONABLE. WE NEED TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS DISPUTE. THE REALITY IS YOU'VE BASICALLY LAID OUT THAT IT'S NON-NEGOTIABLE TO MOVE THE LOCATION. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S YOUR POSITION. OKAY? BUT WE GOT TO START MAKING OTHER STEPS THEN. [03:45:02] IT'S CALLED COMPROMISE. RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOME REASONABLE SOLUTIONS. WE DON'T KNOW REASONABLE SOLUTIONS HAVE TO BE REASONABLE TO US. SO IF IT'S UNREASONABLE FOR YOU TO MOVE YOUR LOCATION, YOU GOT TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOME REASONABLE SOLUTIONS. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REACH IT, BUT IT'S TIME TO ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PLATITUDES AND A LOT OF DISAGREEMENT. BUT I THINK IN THE END, I THINK YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY LEFT FOR TONIGHT, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATIONS. DON'T REALLY BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU SAY THESE WORDS. AND OBVIOUSLY, TO SOME EXTENT, DO NOT TRUST COUNSEL TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. FAIR ENOUGH? SO WE'RE IN A POSITION NOW THAT IF IT HASN'T BEEN CLEAR BEFORE, IT SHOULD BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR NOW THAT THERE'S SOME DISPUTE OF WHETHER YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER THE CITY'S GUIDELINES AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT STARTING TO SEEK POTENTIAL EVIDENCE GATHERING TO WHETHER YOU ARE COMPLYING OR NOT. SO IF WE'RE TAKING STEPS FROM CITY COUNCIL TO START GATHERING EVIDENCE, THEN YOU NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT. THAT'S NOT A THREAT. THAT'S JUST THE REALITY, RIGHT? WE'RE IN THE REALITY OF TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. THAT'S THE WAY I SIT. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. SO THERE'S SOME HESITATION. ON YOUR END. I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A BOTTOM LINE YOU'RE LOOKING AT. I GET IT. BUT WE HAVE OTHER CONCERNS HERE, INCLUDING MAKING SURE OR WORKING TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR RESIDENCES CAN'T ENJOY THE RESIDENTS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOWARDS. WE CAN'T JUST SATISFY. WE CAN'T JUST BE SATISFIED WITH YOUR ANSWERS, YOU'VE GIVEN SO FAR. SO WE GOT TO START WORKING TOWARDS ALTERNATIVES, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THAT'S WHERE I AM. AND SO LET'S COME TOGETHER AND HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION. BECAUSE, LIKE THEY SAID, THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY FOR ALL. YOU'RE GOING TO GET DRAGGED INTO THIS FOR SOME TIME UNTIL WE CAN MAKE REAL, REAL CHANGES. >> WELL, I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT YOU SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TRYING TO MITIGATE A PROBLEM THAT YOU DIDN'T MITIGATE, ACCORDING TO THE RESIDENTS, ALLEGEDLY. >> WE'RE SURE. >> WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL DATA FOR THIS. YOU UNDERSTAND? YEAH. AND WE'RE TALKING TO THEM. SO I THINK THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU SPENT ON MITIGATION, IF IT DIDN'T WORK, IT'S ACCORDING TO THE RESIDENTS, THEN IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. I MEAN, YOU DID TRY. THERE'S THAT, BUT IT DIDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. >> AND I CAN TELL YOU MEAN I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHEN YOU SAY WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE AN EMPTY PLATITUDE. >> WELL, AND I'VE HEARD- >> SOUNDS EMPTY WHEN YOU COME BACK AND SAY, BUT. AND SO THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING AT. SO LET'S GET REALISTIC. >> I UNDERSTAND, AND I APPRECIATE IT. BUT TRYING TO BE GENUINE AND NOT BEING THERE IN POSS HARD, I GET IT. SO YEAH, WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. WE WANT TO SEE A OUTCOME OF A RESOLUTION. WE UNDERSTAND. DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. WE'RE COMMITTING TO COME BACK IN MARCH, EITHER IN PERSON WITH A PLAN, WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO DO. >> CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? >> YES, MA'AM. REAL QUICK. >> THERE ARE CERTAIN DAYS WHEN WE POST THINGS ON OUR PAGE TO ALL THE RESIDENTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING THEY HEAR. AND SO WOULD IT HELP IF WE PROVIDED THOSE DATES. YOU KNOW, LIKE KRISTIN SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED, NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT. I WAS OCTOBER 7. AND IT WAS SO LOUD YOU'D HEAR IT VERY FAR AWAY DOWN THE RIGHT AWAY. AND SO, WE COULD COMMUNICATE SOMEHOW IN REAL TIME TO THEM THAT, [03:50:05] HEY, THIS IS REALLY LOUD. THE HOTLINE- THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THE HOTLINE. OUR FANS AT 100%, AND THE TEMPERATURE, SO AND SO, OR WHATEVER THE DEAL IS. AND MAYBE THEY COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY CAUSING THE NOISE TO BE LOUDER THAN OTHER TIMES. >> WE COULD PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT INFORMATION, BUT THEY ALREADY KNOW. I'M SURE THEY DO ALREADY. THEY ALREADY KNOW. BUT NOBODY'S ON SITE, SO THEY DON'T HEAR IT. LET ME JUST TELL YOU IT'S NOT MONITORED, BUT IT'S REMOTELY MONITORED. NO ONE IS THERE TO HEAR THAT BUT US. WE CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT'S LOUD. >> BUT THEY KNOW WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL OF THAT AMOUNT OF FANS ON THAT AMOUNT OF BANKS IS, AND THEY KNOW WHEN THAT THING IS CHARGING AND DISCHARGING, AND IT WASN'T RIGHT. >> THEY GO LOOK AT OCTOBER 7 AT 6:00. REALLY, IT WAS ALL DAY THAT DAY. IT WAS UNBELIEVABLY LOUD ALL DAY LONG. WE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT ALL DAY. SO JUST TAKE THAT ONE DAY BECAUSE WE ALL REMEMBER IT. >> WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT CONTRACTING SOMEBODY TO SET UP, AND RADY IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THE SUP ON THIS. AND AS I SAID BEFORE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIOR, IT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO THIS POINT, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO START COLLECTING OUR OWN DATA, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. >> OKAY. >> I SUGGESTED THE HOTLINE, SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET MOVING ON THIS. A LOT MORE TO IT, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY CALL AND GO, IT'S SO LOUD RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW, NOBODY CAN GET A HOLD OF ANYBODY. YOU'RE TAKING DATA READINGS AND ALL AT DIFFERENT TIMES. >> JUST A COMMENT ON THAT SPECIFICALLY A HOT LINE. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. THIS SHOULD BE A SELF CONTAINED PROBLEM THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF. THEY'VE GOT CONTROL SYSTEM ENGINEERS. THEY CAN PUT A SOUND RECORDING DEVICE THAT FEEDS BACK TO THEIR POWER LEVEL. TURN IT DOWN WHEN IT GETS TOO LOW. I MEAN, THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE PROBLEM FOR THEM TO SOLVE IF THEY WANTED TO. IT'S FINANCIALLY NOT FEASIBLE OR PRACTICAL FOR THEM TO DO THAT. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CALL A HOTLINE WHEN THE DAMN THING'S TOO LOUD. THAT'S CRAZY. >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT FORM. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WERE SPECIFIC TIMES. AND THE STATE OF TEXAS DECLARED AN EMERGENCY ON POWER GRID, AND EVERYBODY ALL THE PROVIDERS HAD TO JUMP TO AND FLOOD THE ZONE. WE WERE ALL OKAY WITH THAT. WE GET THAT. IT'S HOT. WE NEED THE POWER, AND EVERYBODY'S HAVING ROLLING POWER OUTAGES, AND WE'RE ALL LIKE GO FOR IT. WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. WE CAN EVEN ACCEPT THAT NOISE DURING THOSE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. WE HAD NOT HAD ONE EMERGENCY THAT I KNOW OF IN 2025. >> WE NEED TO FACE THE FACT THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. >> I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US. THAT'S WHAT SOLD IT TO US. >> COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO. >> I WANT TO SAY ONE QUICK THING. I'M SORRY. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO'S LISTENING. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STUCK AROUND. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, EARLIER WHEN EVERYBODY SPOKE, YOU WERE PEOPLE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNSEL? IT'S NOT REALLY TIME FOR US TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS, IT WASN'T THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY OR DEBATE IT. I JUST IT'S MORE OF A PROCEDURAL STEP. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RESPECT THE TIME, WE GIVE ALL THE CHANCE TO SPEAK, AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK AND DO IT. IT'S NOTHING LIKE THAT, WELL, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RESPONDING. NO. IT'S BE TREATED LIKE AN OPEN SESSION, LIKE A PUBLIC SPEAKING SESSION. >> YOU GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK PROCESS. >> I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE WALK AWAY, GOSH, THEY WEREN'T RESPONSIVE. >> WE'RE FOLLOWING WHILE I WAITED AND THEN CALLED YOU ALL BACK. >> PART OF THAT, THOUGH, IS THAT WE WAITED THREE HOURS TO BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MULTIPLE TIMES, AND WE END UP BACK IN THE SAME SPOT. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS ABOUT IT, AND NOTHING'S BEING DONE. I'M GLAD THAT WE FINALLY HAVE AN ACTION PLAN. BUT THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY FROM POWER PLUS COULDN'T BE HERE IN PERSON SAYS A LOT. IF THEY REALLY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH, [03:55:02] THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEONE HERE. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I'VE DROPPED EVERYTHING TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE I'VE NEEDED TO BE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS IT IN THAT TIME. THEM NOT SHOWING UP SHOWS A LOT, SAYS A LOT. ON THE PHONE OR NOT, IT'S NOT THE SAME. >> WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PATIENCE. AS IT'S BEEN SAID HERE, THIS COUNCIL DOES CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADJACENT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT'S NOT JUST LIP SERVICE. AS IT WAS SAID, THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US THAT WAS HERE AT THAT TIME. BUT THE ONE THING, I'VE SAID THIS TO ANYBODY WHO WILL LISTEN. I'VE CROWED IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS THAT I DOUBT THERE'S A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS CITY THAT CARES AS MUCH ABOUT THIS CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS THAN THIS GUY RIGHT HERE. >> I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M DOING DO AVERAGE. I'M SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLE. WE FINALLY HAVE SOMEBODY MAKE AN ACTION PLAN. >> WE DON'T DISAGREE. WE HEAR YOU ALL A LOT OF CLEAR. WE LISTEN I PROMISE. I GET THINGS ARE MOVING SLOWER THAN YOU WISH. THAT'S THE REALITY. >> IT'S PROBABLY STILL GOING TO BE SLOW. I DON'T WANT TO TELL ANYONE THIS IS GOING TO BE SOLVED OVERNIGHT. >> I DO WANT TO ADD THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW JOHN UNDER THE BUS FOR BEING ON COUNSEL, WHENEVER. BECAUSE I TOO HAVE BEEN ASKED, WELL, WHERE WERE YOU? WHY WERE YOU AT THE TOWN HALL? YOU WERE BUILDING A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? I WAS. I WAS BUILDING A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THIS WAS TAKING PLACE. I WAS AT HOME WITH TWO TODDLERS, AND I TRUSTED WHAT WAS BEING PRESENTED. I CANNOT FIND FAULT IN JOHN OR ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME FOR MAKING THE DECISION. BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED, IT SEEMED TO BE OKAY. BUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED VERSUS OUR REALITY? >> WE HAD THREE TOWN HALLS, I THINK ON THAT. >> IT WAS OVER A COURSE OF MONTHS. >> MR. WERTHAM, YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TO BUILD ON THAT STREET. RIGHT? >> WAS THE FIRST WAS THE FIRST ONE WE PICKED THE LOT SWAPS OR SOMEBODY ELSE. I'M THE FIRST WORLD THAT STREAM. >> BUT WHEN YOU BUILT YOUR HOUSE, WAS THAT THIS GAB IT ALREADY THERE? >> NO. I WAS AMONG THE FIRST PEOPLE TO SAY I HAVE A BATTERY PARKED IN A LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I WASN'T OPPOSED TO IT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, 40 DECIMALS. I KNEW WITH SOMEBODY THAT COMPETED IN RANK CONTESTS. I KNEW 40 WAS NOTHING. I WAS FULLY SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT LOUD IN THE BACK YARD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BE LOUD BATTERY. >> AT THIS POINT, I'LL SEE YOUR LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND RAISE YOU A BATTERY PARK. I KNOW IT'S NOT FUNNY, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE. WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON. >> 24TH. I'M SURE I'LL SEE YOU ALL BACK. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 18, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20260113-018, [18. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20260113-018 accepting the donation to the city of a parcel of vacant land located on the east side of Farm-to-Market (FM) 521, approximately 1,400-foot south of the intersection of County Road 32 and Ashland Boulevardd., Brazoria County, Texas, and authorizing the Mayor to execute the Special Warranty Deed.] ACCEPTING THE DONATION TO THE CITY OF A PARCEL OF VACANT LAND LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF FARMERS MARKET FM 521, APPROXIMATELY 1,400 FOOT SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 32 AND ASHLAND BOULEVARD, MISSOURI COUNTY, TEXAS AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE SPECIAL WARRANTY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS OUR SECOND TRIAL ON THIS ITEM. WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK AS A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE DONATION OF THE FIRE. DEPARTMENT LOT AS PART OF THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT. THE ATTACHMENTS DO, OF COURSE, DEPICT THE LOCATION, THE WARRANTY DEED DRAFT IS IN IT. WE DO HAVE THE EXECUTED WARRANTY DEED ON THE SIDE OF THE GRANTOR. THAT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION AND REQUIRED UPON YOUR ACTION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IT'S ON THE ITEM OF INTER ROAD 32. CAN I ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE ROAD? IS THE ROAD FINALIZED? >> TO LOCATE THE SITE ITSELF. IT'S FRONT ON 521, SO I WAS JUST GIVING YOU THE DISTANCE FROM THAT INTERSECTION OF THAT NEW INTERSECTION. [04:00:04] >> >> IS ASHLAND BOULEVARD, IS THE ROAD FINALIZED? >> IN TERMS OF? >> ALL THE WAY? >> NO, NOT ALL THE WAY. NO, SIR. >> HAVE YOU HAD AN UPDATE? HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY UPDATES ON THE WAY? >> IN TERMS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH? >> THE COUNTY? >> THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN HIS PRESENTATION AND UPDATE WHAT HE GAVE YOU LAST TIME? >> OKAY. >> BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CORRECTIONS IN WHAT HE SAID AT THAT INTERSECTION AS WELL AS FURTHER DOWN. THANK YOU. COUNTY ROAD 44, THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION. >> HE TOLD US THAT ROAD'S NOT LISTED ON HERE, SO I WAS TRYING TO OPERATE WITHIN THE MEANS THAT I HAVE ON THE AGENDA ITEM. >> BUT YES. AND I WAS HOPING THAT THEY WILL BE HERE FOR THIS ITEM, BUT I HAD TROUBLE REACHING HIM. BUT I'LL SCHEDULE HIM FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN THE ASHLAND UPDATE. AND THAT WAY HE CAN UPDATE YOU PROPERLY WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE AND HOW THEY'RE ADDRESSING. IT'S SOME POSITIVE UPDATES ON WHAT HE PRESENTED. >> COUNSEL. WHO WANTS TO ACCEPT THE DONATION? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DONATION FOR THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION. >> SECOND. >> WE ALL SOUND SO TIRED NOW. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, LIKE, WE'RE ACCEPTING IT. THERE'S NO DEADLINE TO DEVELOP IT FOR IT TO GO BACK OR ANYTHING SNEAKY. IT'S IN THE WARRANTY. WE HAVE TWO YEARS FROM SAYING OKAY TONIGHT TO BUILD TEN? I CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL. >> TEN YEARS? AT THE LENGTH OF A BATTERY PART. NOW, WE'VE GOT GALLOS GOING. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTON SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I DO WANT TO SEE IT COME BACK WITH A DISCUSSION ON ASHLAND BOULEVARD AND COUNTER 044521 INTERSECTION. >> I'LL ALERT THE DEVELOPER MR. JOHN. >> IF HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP PUSH THAT ALONG FASTER. >> WILL THEY EVENTUALLY ACCESS 521 DIRECTLY? >> NO. >> YES. >> THEY'RE ON 5215. >> THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET IN AND OUT OF THE STATION ON. >> THAT'S A GOOD. >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO THE SUBDIVISION TO REACH. >> NOT THE FULL SUBDIVISION, NO. >> BUT THERE'S ACCESS FROM 521 TO COMMERCIAL. >> I JUST DIDN'T KNOW. IT'S LIKE A BIB OR SOMETHING THAT LET I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT Y'ALL GET. >> UNLESS THE PROPERTY CHANGED. >> PAGE 366. >> I'M SORRY, CHIEF. I'M SPEAKING RIGHT OVER HERE. >> I WAS LOOKING AT CHIEF OVER HERE BACK THEN. >> UNLESS THE PROPERTY LOCATIONS CHANGED, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO TURN INTO THE MAIN ROADWAY, AND THEN THE STATION WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT THERE. THAT WAS 3.5, FOUR YEARS AGO. WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS? >> 366. >> I SAW THAT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT HAD BEEN WORKED OUT TO WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY LET YOU ACCESS 521. I JUST FIGURED THAT'S A TIME SAVING MECHANISM TO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS SUBDIVISION. >> I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. >> ITEM 19, DISCUSSION ON THE CITY'S CUSTOMER SERVICE. [19. Discussion on the City's Customer Service ] WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? >> I'M SUPPOSED TO PRESENT. YOU WANT ME UP THERE? >> YES, SIR. OH, MAN. WE GOT TO PUT YOU ON CAMERA SOMEHOW. >> THEY GOT ME. >> OH, THERE HE IS. THAT ALL THE TIMES. NOT JUST LOOKING OVER THE FENCE. >> THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PART WHAT COUNSEL REQUESTED WAS SOMETHING FROM [04:05:02] ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE HAD PEOPLE TAKEN AWAY SERVICES DROP. TO SEE HOW THAT AFFECTED THEM. EACH DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED THEIR BRIEF AS TO WHAT THEY SAY WAS AFFECTING THEIR CUSTOMER RELATIONS, AND WHAT PROBLEMS THEY HAVE IF THEY HAVE ANY. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR EACH PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE HERE. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS HOW WE'VE IMPROVED CUSTOMER SERVICE IS BY ADDING THAT WINDOW UP FRONT, ADDING A PART TIME PERSON THERE, JASON AND IT HAD WORKED ON THE PHONES WHERE THEY ROLLED OVER. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO ANSWER THE PHONE ALL THE TIME. HE'S ALSO WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A NEW PHONE SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY THAT HE HAS THE MONEY FOR. THAT CAN IMPROVE THAT AS WELL. IF WHAT WOULD HELP JUST TO HAVE SOMEBODY FULL TIME UP FRONT. I THINK IF WE CAN GET DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BACK THEIR PART TIME PERSON, THEN WE CAN GO FROM WHOEVER'S PART TIME IN THE FRONT, AND SWITCH IT OVER THEM AND COORDINATE THEIR SCHEDULES, SO WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY ANSWER THE PHONE WHOLE TIME. >> VERY NICE. >> THAT'S A BUDGET ISSUE. >> YES. >> HOW OFTEN IS IT MANNED WITH A OPERATED WITH A PART. >> NINETEEN HOURS A WEEK. WE CAN'T GO OVER 20, 19 HOURS A WEEK AND CZ IS COORDINATING THAT WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN WITH PHONE BILLS. I MEAN, NOT PHONE BILL. THEY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. WATER BILLS, UTILITY BILLING, STUFF LIKE THAT. >> DOES ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD WANT TO SPEAK? >> 10:00. >> HOW BAD DID YOU WANT IT? >> HOW'S CUSTOMER SERVICE WITHIN THE PD. >> I'M HERE, YOU'RE HERE. BREAK DIES. >> YOU GOT THREE MINUTES. >> I WILL SAY. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU WANT TO SAY BE CONSISTENT. >> FOR PUBLIC WORKS LIKE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICES, YES, WE DO AND TAKE PHONE CALLS. YES, WE DO TALK TO CUSTOMERS. YES, WE DO SEE THEM OUT IN THE FIELD SOMETIMES AS WE'RE WORKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAYS. BUT OUR MAIN CUSTOMER SERVICE OR WHAT CUSTOMERS PERCEIVE AS OUR SERVICES, HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THINGS DONE. THAT'S WHY IN OURS, IT'S JUST PUT IT SIMPLE, MORE PEOPLE, MORE EQUIPMENT TO GET THINGS DONE FASTER, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'RE PERCEIVED, AND OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE OVERALL IS THEY CALL US BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PROBLEM, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE FIXED, ROAD NEEDS TO BE FIXED, WHATEVER THE CASE IS, AND THEY EXPECT THAT TO BE DONE. WE CAN'T GET THOSE THINGS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER. SOMETIMES WHAT, A RESIDENT FEELS IS A TIMELY MANNER. WE GET PHONE CALLS BACK. WE GET AN ANGRY CUSTOMER. SOMETHING HASN'T BEEN DONE YET. THAT'S OUR MAIN FOCUS, IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE THINGS FASTER. I MEAN, JUST MAKING SIMPLE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES. WE WERE ABLE TO SHAVE DOWN FROM WHAT WAS AN AVERAGE OF 22 DAYS OF A RESPONSE TO A WORK ORDER DOWN TO 20. WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK AT THAT. HOPEFULLY, IT IMPROVES THIS YEAR IN '26 AGAIN. THAT'S ALL. >> MARTHA HAS ALSO PUT OUT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA, SINCE MOST OF THE SMART METERS ARE IN, HOW YOU CAN GET ONTO THE PORTAL, AND HOW YOU CAN GET IN THERE, AND HOW YOU CAN MONITOR YOUR WATER? THAT'S HELPED AS WELL. >> CAN WE SEE A VIDEO? CAN WE PUT A VIDEO OUT THERE? >> OF WHAT? >> HOW THE MAYOR DOES IT? >> SURE. [OVERLAPPING] >> NO, I'M SERIOUS. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S FINE. I'LL VOLUNTEER MYSELF. SOMEBODY, HOW THEY'RE LOGGING IN, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, HOW THEY'RE USING IT, AND HOW. >> IT DOES SOUND LIKE A GOOD MAYOR'S PSA. >> DEFINITELY. >> ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS HAVE YOU A COUPLE OF MOMENTS OF SPEAKING, AND THEN IT'LL JUST BE YOUR SCREEN. >> I'M ALSO VERY HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO BE ON A CAMERA BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE CAMERA. >> WE CAN AI YOU TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT. >> YEAH. >> NO. >> CRONK. >> WE HAVE A SMART METER VIDEO THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT TO CLICK AND ALL OF THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> I THINK SO. >> GIVE IT IN. >> I STILL THINK WE OUGHT TO LET THE MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] I THINK THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN HAVING SERIOUSLY HANDS ON DEMONSTRATION. >> IT FEELS PERSONAL. [04:10:01] >> FEELS PERSONAL. >> BY MAYOR ROCK. >> I CAN LEAVE MY BATHROOM SINK RUNNING FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS AND SEE IF I GET AN ALERT. >> NO, THIS CAMP. >> ARE WE GOING TO WAIT THERE WITH YOU THE ENTIRE TIME? >> NO. I I'LL SHOW THE ALERT. I GOT TO MY PHONE. NOW, I REALLY THINK BEING MORE PROACTIVE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR. WHAT YOU PUT IN HERE IS GREAT. I CAN TELL YOU I'VE WORKED A LOT AT IT, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. I WOULD ALSO ASK TO BE MORE I GUESS, DON'T BE HARD ON YOURSELF, BUT REALLY, THINK ABOUT FROM A CITIZENS POINT OF VIEW, WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST GRAPES AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND HOW YOU COULD APPROVE THEM TO MAKE THE CITIZENS HAPPIER? YOU TALK ABOUT THE PHONE SYSTEM BEING FIXED? IS IT FIXED? HAVE WE CALLED AND TESTED IT? HAVE WE HAD, LIKE, A CITIZEN CALL AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET SOMEBODY? I'LL TELL YOU THE PHONE SYSTEM IS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I GET. >> I'LL ALSO TELL YOU YES, WE HAVE TESTED. BUT I HAVE ALSO HAD COMPLAINTS FROM EMPLOYEES SAYING I'M GETTING CALLS FOR UTILITIES, BUT I'M HR OR CALL BEING BROUGHT AT THE WRONG PLACE. WHO KNOWS, IS THE END USER TYPING IN ACCIDENTALLY. HITTING A WRONG DIGIT ON A TOUCHSCREEN PHONE? I THINK WE'RE WORKING TO ADDRESS IT AND HAVING A LIVE PERSON ANSWER THE PHONE. BECAUSE THEN WE CAN DIRECT SEND CALL WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. I AM LOOKING AT A NEW PHONE SYSTEM. THE PHONE SYSTEM DOES HAVE SOME AI OPTIONS. WE KNOW HOW WELL AI WORKS. SOMETIMES IT'S GREAT. SOMETIMES IT'S POOR. BUT WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE. I JUST GOT THE NEW PHONES THAT WE'RE TESTING SET UP TODAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTIONS, AND I TOLD THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, OUR MAIN FOCUS IS CUSTOMER SERVICE. I WANT TO GET PEOPLE DIRECTED TO THE RIGHT PLACE WHEN THEY CALL THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO GET ROUTED TO WHO YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THE FIRST TIME AND NOT GET PASSED AROUND. >> I SUGGEST FIND FIVE CITIZENS. IT CAN BE FROM ANYBODY, HAVE THEM CALL CITY HALL. DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY. THERE'S YOUR TRUE TEST TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING. DOES THE CITIZEN GET WHAT THEY GET THE ANSWERS THAT THEY NEED? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY OF FINDING OUT WAS WORKING. DO YOU ALSO GET MEASUREMENTS, KPIS OFF THE PHONE OF PERCENTAGE OF TIME THAT'S ANSWERED. >> OUR CURRENT SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THAT. [INAUDIBLE] ONLY HAVE MORE ANALYTICS. YES. >> THAT TO ME WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN AN AI FEATURE BEING THE AMUSEMENT. >> IS OUR PHONE SYSTEM GOING TO SAY, PLEASE LISTEN CLOSELY FOR OUR MENU OPTION OF CHANGE. [LAUGHTER] >> I DO PLAN ON KEEPING IT AS CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAVE IS POSSIBLE, BUT YES, MENU OPTIONS WILL CHANGE. I WANT TO GIVE SUSIE HER OLD EXTENSION BACK BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE I HAVE MEMORIZED. IT WILL PROBABLY SAY THAT. >> I'M SUPER GUILTY IF I CAN'T GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON THE PHONE. I MIGHT PRESS THE BUTTON FOR SALES OR ACCOUNTING. [LAUGHTER] >> THEY WANT SOMEBODY'S GOING [INAUDIBLE] AND HELP THEM. >> YES. ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT'S MY QUESTION ON THE PHONES. THEN, CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED THE SERVICE WINDOW THAT WE HAVE NOW? >> YES, SIR. >> ARE YOU MEASURING THE SUCCESS OF THAT? HOW DO WE KNOW IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL OR NOT? >> I HAVE TO ASK SUSIE, AND SEE IF WE ARE MEASURING THAT OR NOT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> SUSIE AND I ARE PARTNERING TO FIX WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND MAKE IT WORK IN THE MEANTIME UNTIL WE CAN GET TO WHAT CHIEF DESCRIBED WE NEED. MEANING THAT BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY THERE PART TIME, WE HAVE TO SHARE THE RESOURCE SOMEHOW IN WHAT I HAVE AT THE FRONT DESK. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE I HAVE A ROLE AT THE FRONT DESK THAT'S FRONT FACING. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO 100% SOLVE YOUR RECEPTION NEEDS BECAUSE THAT PERSON HAS OTHER TASK AND HAS TO BE AWAY FROM THAT DESK WHEN NO ONE IS VISIBLE. I'M IN THE OFFICE. I CAN WORK THE BELL. WE USE THE BELL FOR THAT REASON THAT IF NO ONE IS UP THERE, ANY INDIVIDUAL CAN RING THAT BELL, AND IF I'M THERE, I'M UP FRONT, OR ANYONE. >> DID YOU EVER PUT A SIGN THAT SAYS RING THE BELL FOR SERVICE? >> THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. >> BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ONE. >> WE CAN PUT ONE UP THERE, BUT MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT BELL IS. A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T RING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EMBARRASSED WITH THE NOISE, AND WE TELL THEM NO RING THE BELL. >> ENGLISH AND SPANISH. PUT IT RING THE BELL FOR SERVICE. >> WE CAN DO THAT, YES SIR. >> MAKE SURE. >> THAT WAS AN EASY AMAZON. >> HOW DOES LUNCH COVERAGE WORK UP THERE? [04:15:02] >> WE TRY TO FLEX THE LUNCH. NOW THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION TO TRY TO HAVE SOMEONE PRESENT. WE'RE WORKING THREE INDIVIDUALS TO ROTATE THE LUNCH A LITTLE BIT. THAT WAY, SOMEONE IS ALWAYS PRESENT IN THE OFFICE DURING LUNCH. .>> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, CAUSE WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. HOW LONG IS LUNCH? >> ONE HOUR. >> ONE HOUR? FOR ONE HOUR, SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT ON LUNCH SHOULD BE SITTING AT THAT DESK. >> WE'RE ROTATING. >> ROTATING. >> I DO LUNCH IN THE OFFICE, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE SHARING THE NEED. YES. >> YOU GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE NEW RECEPTIONIST DESK. WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR, WHERE ARE THEY DIRECTED? IS IT A PHONE CALL? IS IT A WALK IN PERSON? >> WE DO ROUTINE POLLS. LAST CITY MANAGER HAD US DOING THAT SO THAT WE CAN ASSESS THE NEED. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT SINCE WE HAD THE NEW RECEPTIONIST, BUT WE CAN RUN THAT. GIVE A 30-60 DAYS STUDY AND TAKE A POLL OF WHERE THOSE VISITS WENT. WE TRY TO DO THAT AS WELL FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT WE CAN SHOW YOU THE OLD INFORMATION IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. >> NOW, I'M CURIOUS THAT WITH THE NEW RECEPTION IS THERE. IS IT. IS THERE A PAYOFF. >> WE'LL WORK WITH SUSIE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT. >> I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY DID ON THESE. I KNOW IT WAS DIFFICULT, AND I KNOW SOME OF THEM WERE CHALLENGING BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT YOU WERE IN, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I LEARNED A LOT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT PRINTING OUT. [NOISE] BECAUSE I KNOW I'LL FORGET WHEN IT COMES TO BE BUDGET TIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK ALL DID. >> I THINK EVERYBODY'S COME A LONG WAY SINCE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? [LAUGHTER] >> I THINK EVERYBODY'S COME A LONG WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. >> I HAD TO COME LONG WAY, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THAT LAST PART. >> [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. >> COME ON. [LAUGHTER] >> WE'VE GOT TO MEASURE OURSELVES FROM A CITIZENS POINT OF VIEW. HOW ARE WE DOING? THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I'M GOING TO USE ALL AS AN EXAMPLE, CALLS FOR SERVICE, PD, CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU LINE OUT EVERYTHING. YOU BASICALLY HAVE KPIS FOR YOUR DEPARTMENTS. IT'D BE NICE TO SEE AND WE GET THE STAFF REPORTS, BUT A CONDENSED VERSION OF THE CITY SCORECARD, BASICALLY, HOW ARE WE DOING? HOW ARE WE MEASURING OURSELVES? YOU'RE ALREADY PUTTING THE STAFF REPORT TOGETHER, BUT IF YOU KEEP A MASTER LIST SOMEWHERE, YOU CAN JUST PUT IN WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND MEASURE IT ACROSS. THERE'S GOT TO BE IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT GOES ON DEAF EARS. WE THINK WE'RE THE BEST DEPARTMENT IN SOUTHERN MISSOURI COUNTY OR IN MISSOURI COUNTY. THAT'S NOT THE PERCEPTION FROM THE CITIZENS. THEY THINK YOU'VE WASTED TIME, MONEY AND RESOURCES ON SOMETHING THAT WASN'T IMPORTANT TO THEM. HOW ARE YOU MEASURING YOURSELF TO THE CITIZENS? I THINK HEAD COUNT SHOULD BE REALLY SCRUTINIZED ANY TIME. BECAUSE ONE OF OUR MOST EXPENSIVE FIXED COSTS IN THIS CITY IS A HEAD COUNT. EVERY TIME YOU ADD A HEAD, THAT MEANS SOMETHING'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIMITED TAX DOLLARS. THAT'S HOW THE MENTALITY SHOULD BE. I ADD A HEAD. I DON'T GET THIS ROAD PAVED OR I DON'T GET THIS WATER METER INSTALLED, OR SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THE HEAD COUNT. THAT'S THE MANTRA THAT I APPROACH. I THINK YOUR BEST FRIEND IS GOING TO BE THE GUY BACK THERE, NOT CHIEF, BUT THE OTHER GUY. THAT IT GUY IS GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME ASSISTANCE, AUTOMATION, IMPROVEMENT OF THE TECHNOLOGY, MAKING PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU A LOT OF THIS FROM WHAT I SEE. WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A STRATEGY SESSION AS A COUNCIL AND REALLY LOOK AT HOW CAN WE USE TECHNOLOGY AND INVEST IN OUR TECHNOLOGY TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. >> SPEAKING OF THAT, HOW CAN WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO BE BACK. [LAUGHTER] >> WITH MINIMAL YEARLY FEES. >> EVERYTHING SUBS. SERVICE FEES. >> IT IS HARD TO AVOID THINGS THAT HAVE BECOME SERVICES, [04:20:01] AND I DO MY BEST IN MY DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT. BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THINGS WITH TECHNOLOGY. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BETTER WAYS TO IMPROVE THE WEBSITE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PERMITTING AND ONLINE PAYMENTS FOR PERMITTING. JUST MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, NOT LIKE STARTING ALL OVER BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE JUST GOT THAT ONLINE. BUT I DO THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE AN EASIER WAY FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE I'VE GONE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS MYSELF, AND IT WAS VERY CUMBERSOME. BUT I THINK WE CAN LOOK THOSE TOGETHER AND IMPROVE THAT. THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP TO CITIZENS AS WELL DEFINITELY, THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE USING TECHNOLOGY. >> THE MORE THE CITIZENS CAN DIY THINGS EASILY, I THINK THE BETTER OFF WE ALL ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO WAIT ON A CALL, THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO GET SOMEBODY ON THE LINE UNLESS THEY ABSOLUTELY NEED TO, AND WE'RE NOT HAVING, NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TOO, MAYBE, BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TALK TO THEM TO GET THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE ON THEIR OWN. >> ABSOLUTELY. THOSE ARE OUR COSTS BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING LESS TIME ON THE PHONE OR TENDING TO A SPECIFIC SITUATION. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT FOCUS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. >> WHEN YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT YOUR WEBSITES AND YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT YOU HAVE ONLINE, THINK OF IT FROM THE EYES OF A CITIZEN. IF I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AND I WANT TO GO IN THERE AND SCHEDULE A ZOOM CLASS, IF I HAVE TO CLICK SIX DIFFERENT THINGS, I'M DONE. I WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> WELL, I GOT ONE FOR YOU. I DO YOU ONE TOO. IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN YOUR WORKLOAD THAT YOU CAN PROCESS THAT YOU THINK OR YOU KNOW CAN BE AUTOMATED IN SOME WAY, WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO? >> THERE ARE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, FOR SURE WHEN IT COMES TO NEW USERS THAT WE CAN INTERFACE WITH PAY VELOCITY FOR NEW USER ACCOUNTS AND AUTOMATE THAT PROCESS FOR US, AND THAT FREES UP HANDS TO JUST WORK ON OTHER TICKETS. DEFINITELY THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. >> BECAUSE THAT'S EITHER TAKING WORKLOAD OFF OF US SO WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE DOING OTHER THINGS OR MAYBE IT'S JUST TAKING WORKLOAD OFF OF US SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING. >> I LEARNED SOMETHING WHEN I WAS VERY NEW TO DOW CHEMICAL. YOUR GOAL EVERY DAY, YOU SHOULD BE WORKING YOURSELF OUT OF A JOB. YOU SHOULD BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AND DOING THINGS FASTER, STRONGER, BETTER, QUICKER, EASIER. >> YES. >> WE HAD THAT SAME THING. YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUNNY PART ABOUT IT WAS? >> IT WORKED? >> IT NEVER HAPPENED. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO WHEN YOU WORK HARD LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GET? >> MORE WORK. >>MORE WORK. >> I ALSO THINK UTILIZE MARTHA'S DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING. IF WE CAN PUT STUFF ON WEBSITES, WE CAN GET TRAINING VIDEOS OUT THERE, HOW TO DO THINGS. THAT REALLY HELPS. CITIZENS WON'T CALL YOU AND ASK YOU IF THEY SAW IT, IF THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IT LOWERS YOUR WORKLOAD BY AUTOMATING IT AND PUTTING IT ON THE PAGE OR GETTING THE COMMUNICATION OUT. SOME OF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT IT TOGETHER AND GO. HERE, MARTHA, POST THIS ONE FOR ME. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU GET CALLED AND ASKED, WHAT ARE THE NEXT PROGRAMS FOR NEXT MONTH OR AT THE PART AT THE REC CENTER OR HECTOR, WE EVEN ASK YOU, WHAT STREETS ARE GOING TO BE DONE NEXT AND LET'S GET THE INFORMATION OUT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FROM A COUNCIL MEETING. I LIKE THAT ONE. BY THE COUNCIL, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE. HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I'LL THROW OUT THERE. I WANT IN THE FUTURE. I THINK I TALKED TO MS. SIMMONS ABOUT THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD REVIEW A DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WAY WE ASKED BEFORE, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS THAT WAS NOT THE WAY WE WANTED IT. WE NEED TO REVIEW THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, YOUR GOALS, OBJECTIVES FOR THE YEAR, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. THEN WE MEASURE YOU TO THAT. DID YOU GET IT DONE? DID YOU NOT GET IT DONE? WHAT OBSTACLES DID YOU HAVE? WHAT PREVENTED YOU FROM DOING THAT? WHO ARE YOUR SHINING STARS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? WHAT IS YOUR SUCCESSION PLAN? I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. [04:25:04] I'M MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> WITH THAT, IT TELLS US, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S STANDING IN YOUR WAY AND WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING ROADBLOCKS, THEN IT SHOWS US WHERE WE ARE DOING YOU A DISSERVICE. >> YOU ALL WANT TO DO THAT, OR IS THAT THE CITY MANAGERS? >> WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED TOGETHER. >> IT'S A DIRECTION. >> WE CAN'T HIRE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE CAN REVIEW FROM A BUDGETARY AND FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT. >> PERFORMANCE REVIEWED. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE HAVE THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE AT WHAT'S IT CALLED? I DON'T E KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED BECAUSE IT'S SO CUMBERSOME. PERFORM YARD. >> NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SOFTWARE TO DO IT. >> EXACTLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU CAN USE A PEN AND PAPER TO DO THAT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THAT SYSTEM. WE'RE IN A CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER. >> IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD CAN'T USE IT AND THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY GOOD DECISIONS OUT OF IT, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT. >> I GOT GOALS ON MINE. I CAN'T EVEN GET TO GOAL. I DON'T WHAT THE GOAL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I'LL SAY THIS THOUGH, TOO. AS THE COUNCIL IS REVIEWING THAT, WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT. WE HAVE RISERS IN THE DEPARTMENTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RETAINING THEM. IF YOU COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, LOOK WHAT ALL THIS PERSON DID AND THIS PERSON DID, WE WANT TO KEEP THEM. YOU'VE JUSTIFIED NOW WHY THEY SHOULD BE GETTING EITHER AN INCREASE IN PAY OR RETENTION, SOMETHING TO KEEP THEM THERE. TRAINING CLASSES THAT THEY NEED. I THINK THAT ALL GOES ALONG WITH IT. WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO APPROACH THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW I'M ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK WHAT GOT WHERE ANGLETON FELL SHORT IN THE PAST IS WE KEPT BRINGING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF ANGLETON INTO ANGLETON AND TRYING TO EXPECT THEM AS A TOP LEVEL DIRECTOR OR MANAGER TO KNOW THE WAY ANGLETON OPERATES AND DO EVERYTHING. WHAT DID IT GET US IN SOME CASES? >> I CAN TELL YOU. >> NEW STUDIES EVERY FIVE YEARS. NOTHING ACTUALLY WAS BEING BUILT AT THE TIME. NOTHING WAS GETTING COMPLETED. THE LEARNING CURVE IS THERE. LET'S MAKE SURE THERE'S SUCCESSION PLAN. THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON FOR SOMEBODY TO COME TO WORK. IF THEY THINK THEY'RE COMING TO WORK FOR A DEAD END JOB AND THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO ADVANCE, WHY BE HERE? THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO PALAND, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO LAKE JACKSON OR OUR FAVORITE ONE NOW IS MANVILLE. >> I'M LOOKING AT TWO PEOPLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, JASON AND HECTOR THAT HAVE COMMUNICATED VERY WELL WITH ME, NOT SAYING THE REST OF THEM HAVE IT. BUT WHENEVER THERE IS A RISING STAR, AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THIS GUY OR GIRL IS GOING TO GO. WHEN WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY. THEY'VE BEEN VERY INNOVATIVE IN HOW THEY CAN BUDGET THAT PERSON AND TO DO THIS. FOR INSTANCE, ONE GUY THAT HECTOR'S GOT, HE SAID, WE MOVE HIM TO HOURLY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THIS PERSON NOW, BECAUSE HE'S GREAT. MY DIRECTION TO THEM HAS BEEN IF WE COULD DO IT IN THE BUDGET SO APPROVES IT, LET'S GET IT DONE. BUT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT. >> WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US CAN SAY THAT ENOUGH. >> NO. THAT'S GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> WE'VE COME FROM A TIME WHERE HONESTLY I ENJOYED COMING TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I LIKE A GOOD FIGHT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MUCH RATHER PREFER US ALL BEING TOGETHER IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE NOW. >> TO BE CONTINUED. >> I'D SAY ONE THING THAT I PIGGY BACK ON. I THINK WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF TONIGHT. WE SAW SOME EMOTION, WHICH IS TO BE EXPECTED. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN THE LAST AND IT MAY BE TRUE BETWEEN THE YEARS 1995 AND 2005. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH EXPERIENCES OF GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THEM. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVEN'T. I THINK WE HAVE. AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND MOVE FORWARD COMES BACK TO WHAT SOMETHING MR. MAYER SAID WAS, IF YOU STAY IN HOUSE OR YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME BATTLES TOGETHER. YOU'RE A LITTLE WORN, LITTLE LEATHERED, IF YOU WILL, YOU PROBABLY HAVE BETTER KNOWLEDGE, CHIEF. BUT MY POINT IS ONCE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THESE BATTLES, WE LEARN FROM THEM. [04:30:05] THEN BECAUSE WE PROBABLY WILL MAKE MISTAKES. THERE'S SOME DECISIONS AND VOTES I CAN GO BACK FIVE YEARS AGO AND SAY I REGRET IN HINDSIGHT. BUT I HAVE TO GO THAT FAR BACK. BUT YOU LEARN FROM THEM, YOU MOVE FORWARD. IF WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP A LOT OF THE SAME DIRECTORS AND HIGH RISERS, THEN THERE WEATHER, THEIR EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE BRING IN NEW BLOOD, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE HELPFUL. BUT ANYWAY, THE SHARED EXPERIENCES WE CAN LEARN FROM AND GROW FROM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE DON'T MAKE SAME OR SIMILAR MISTAKES AND HOW LIFE IS. SOMETIMES YOU GET IT RIGHT. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T. >> ANYBODY ELSE? STAFF, YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS ONE? YOU'RE LIKE, I JUST WANT TO GO HOME. KYLE IS ASLEEP BACK. >> IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED TOO HAVING PEOPLE WHO ARE WHETHER HAVE WORKED THROUGH PROJECTS TOGETHER AND WORK HAND IN HAND WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS. RETENTION IS KEY. IN MY DEPARTMENT, CURRENTLY NO MOVE UP FOR IT SPECIALISTS. IT IS A AN IT SPECIALIZES. I WILL TELL YOU TWO PEOPLE THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, I HIRED IN AN INJURY LEVEL WAGE, AND THEY'RE WORTH MORE. I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO RETAIN STAFF. >> BUT YOU GOT TO SHOW US. >> SURE. >> WE DON'T KNOW OTHERWISE. >> RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE CHIEF HASN'T GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND CHANGING THE WAY IT'S DONE AND DOCUMENT RISING STARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IT ALREADY. >> GOOD. I'M GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 20 THEN. [20. December Staff Reports] DECEMBER STAFF REPORTS. YOU JUST HAD TO PUT IT ON THIS COUNCIL AGENDA, DIDN'T YOU? [LAUGHTER] WELL BEAT THEM DOWN REALLY HARD AND THEN THEY WON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS. >> I LIKE THE CUL DE MOK THAT YOU HAVE ON THEIR ISSUES. NO ISSUES. IT'S ROCKING ALONG. >> IT IS DOING VERY WELL. >> IT LOOKS GREAT. >> YES [LAUGHTER] >> CAN I JUST SAY THAT THE BUILDING WE'RE BUILDING IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE OLD ONE AND THE FACT THAT THE FORM. HAS ANYBODY NOTICED THAT? THE LAYOUT AND EVERYTHING. >> DON'T CHANGE WHAT WORKS. >> WE TOOK A BRICK BUILDING THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH A CAT FIVE, HONESTLY, IF IT DIDN'T HAVE A CRACK RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT. WE REPLACED IT WITH A METAL BUILDING. ARE WE PUTTING BRICK AROUND THE BOTTOM. >> IN THAT FRONT? >> YEAH. >> THE FRONT CORNER. >> I'M GLAD THAT IT'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE EFFICIENCY, AND THE NEXT THING I'LL HOPE FOR IS THAT IT'S UNDER BUDGET. >> FORGETTING THERE. BUT WHEN WE SAVE SOME, I SPENT IT YESTERDAY. >> IT'S ALL BECAUSE MARK SAYS, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? I WAS JUST JOKING. >> [OVERLAPPING] IT WAS SO DESERVING. >> MARK YOU HAVE ON YOUR REPORT, THE MEETINGS WITH THE LOCAL INDUSTRIES. HAVE YOU HAD ANY SUCCESS ON THAT? >> NOT YET. I MEAN, I'M STILL TRYING TO SET THEM UP, BUT YES, I AM DOING THAT. POSTING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MEETING NEXT WEEK AND WE'RE DOING A TOUR WITH THE CPAC TOMORROW, SO. >> I WANT TO SAY, THANKS, MARTHA FOR THE POST ABOUT THE GRADE ALL OUT THERE, DIGGING DITCHES. BEING MORE PROACTIVE ONLINE SHOWS PEOPLE THAT THOSE GUYS ARE OUT THERE WORKING, AND THIS IS THE AREA WE'RE IN. THEN IT GOES, LET ME GO ONLINE AND PUT A REQUEST IN. >> THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I SAW THAT ONE, TOO. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD. [04:35:01] >> I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD. I WAS LIKE, WOW, I LIKE THAT. >> THANK YOU POSTED THE STREET SWEEPER TODAY? >> YEAH. >> THERE'S A WHOLE LONG LIST OF EVERYBODY THAT'S GET COVERED IN JANUARY AND HOW TO TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR STREET? >> IT'S WORKING. >> THAT'S COMMENTS AFTER THAT ABOUT, HOW DO I REPORT THE SOLAR LIGHT OR WHATEVER? >> I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BRING THAT LIKE FEBRUARY SOLAR LIGHTS. WE JUST ORDERED 15 OF THE TOPS TO REPLACE I BELIEVE WE HAVE 13 THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE. >> THROUGHOUT THE CITY? >> [OVERLAPPING] SOME BASS DROP THAT ARE OUT. >> I KNOW A COUPLE OF ALL THOSE. >> WE'VE GOT A LONG LIST OF REQUESTS THAT WE'RE FINALLY GOING TO FULFILL THOSE BY ORDERING THOSE. BUT I'LL BE BRINGING THE STREET SWEEPER BECAUSE WE GOT ANOTHER PROPOSAL FROM A DIFFERENT COMPANY FOR A LEASING. IT'S A LOT BETTER OPTION. WE'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE A SWEEPER AFTERWARDS AND THOSE THINGS. I'LL BRING TO COMPARE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHAT THAT LEASE AGREEMENT IS. IT'S ALSO A BETTER SWEEPER THAN WHAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S A NON CDL SWEEPER. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS CAPACITY, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE CAN AS LONG AS SOMEONE PHYSICALLY DRIVE IT, THEY CAN DRIVE. >> TELL ABOUT YOUR LITTLE MORE OR THAT YOU GOT. >> THE ATTACHMENT FOR THE LARGE EXCAVATOR, IT'LL GRIND DOWN A TREE. YOU JUST HAVE OLD TREE THAT'S REASONABLE SIZE, EXCAVATOR HAS GOT TO BE ABLE TO REACH IT, BUT I JUST PUSH IT ALL THE WAY DOWN, I'LL JUST EAT THE OLD TREE, I'LL MULCH IT ALL UP. >> TREE EATERS. >> I'D BE CAREFUL WITH THAT THING. THEY'RE NOTORIOUSLY HARD ON THE MACHINES, THE HYDRAULIC PUMPS, THE HYDRAULICS, THE PINS AND BUSHINGS. >> THAT'S WHY IT'S FOR THE LARGE EXCAVATOR BECAUSE THAT ONE HAS A VERY HIGH GALLONS PER MINUTE CAPACITY FOR HYDRAULICS, SO IT CAN RUN IT. NO PROBLEM. >> WHAT'S OF SAFETY EQUIPMENT? >> [OVERLAPPING]. THE GOOD THING IS A CAST COMPLETELY ENCLOSED. >> COULD YOU AGAIN? >> BETTER THAN A $21,000 DRONE [INAUDIBLE]. >> DID YOU DO IT MICHAEL? >> NO. [OVERLAPPING] OUR CONVERSATION. >> HOW WE NEEDED SOME HELP KEEPING TRACK OF WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME DEFICIENCIES? >> THAT'S YOUR POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR IF IT GOES TO HECTOR. BUT I THINK [OVERLAPPING] STATION ABOUT THE OTHER DAY. THERE WAS A FIRE DOWN WHAT WAS IT MAMOSA? >> MAMOSA, AND GREAT RESPONSE BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BY THE WAY. >> AMAZING JOB. BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE FIRE HYDRANT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ROAD. THERE'S NO FIRE HYDRANT AT THE BACK OF THAT. THEY HAD TO RUN. >> A THOUSAND FEET OR SO. >> EVERY TRUCK HAS HOW MUCH ON IT? >> IT ALMOST DIDN'T WORK OUT. >> THEY HAD TO HAVE ANOTHER TRUCK TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER HOSE TO CONNECT. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DEFICIENCIES IN OUR CITY. WHERE IT MIGHT MEAN THAT WE NEED TO PUT ANOTHER FIRE HYDRANT. >> YES. WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE WITHIN 500 FEET OF EACH OTHER. >> I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. >> IF YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THESE GAPS ARE JUST KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. IF YOU COULD SEND SOMETHING OUT, MAYBE TO HECTOR JUST SAYING, HEY, THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK IN, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I DON'T KNOW, MAN. >> IT WAS SCARY, I SEE THAT. >> I SAW HIM ROLLING ALL THAT HOSE OUT, AND I WAS LIKE. >> JUST TO INSTALL A FIRE, ROUGHLY $6,000 A HYDRANT TO GET ONE IN. >> THAT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET IF IT MEANS IT SAVES A HOUSE. >> WE MAY NEED TWO OR THREE OF THEM IN THAT SPOT. >> I BET THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES IN ANGLETON LIKE THAT. >> WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW, I BELIEVE 19. I BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL OUT OF SERVICE, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO START THE NEXT ROUND OF JUST OUR GENERAL ANNUAL SURVEY WE DO EVERY YEAR. THAT MIGHT OPEN UP SOME MORE ON THAT. WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE WE NEED TO REPAIR. NOW WE KNOW WE HAVE TO INSTALL SOME IN SOME NEW AREAS, SO WE GOT QUITE A FEW THINGS TO DO WITH HYDRANTS. >> AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, DO YOU GUYS KEEP ANY INFORMATION ON ANY OF THIS? I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU NOTED ANYTHING ON IT. >> [INAUDIBLE] HYDRANTS. >> NOW, IF YOU JUST KNEW ANY PLACES THAT WERE ABSOLUTELY PROBLEMATIC. [04:40:04] >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE A MAP FOR THAT POTENTIALLY. >> YEAH. AS A LAYER WITH ALL THE HYDRANTS ON THERE. I CAN EASILY GO THROUGH THE MEASUREMENTS BETWEEN WHICH UNDER PHOTOS CAN TAKE ME A LITTLE TIME TO DO IT, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. >> LET'S PRIORITIZE IT AS AS BEST WE CAN. I KNOW WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON, WE JUST NEED TO PUSH FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE THOSE GUYS ARE ROLLING OUT 1,000 FEET OF HOSE AND I THINK THEY HAD A CALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WHERE ONE OF THE TRUCKS HAD TO BOUNCE. IF THAT TRUCK WOULD HAVE BEEN TIED UP, WHO KNOWS? ANOTHER ONE WOULD HAVE HAD TO COME OUT OR SOMETHING, BUT ANYWAY. >> THANK YOU. MICHELLE, REAL QUICK, ON THE MUNICIPAL COURT, HAVE WE HAD A JURY TRIAL OR, WHERE ARE WE AT? DOCKET BACKED UP AT ALL, OR WAS THE LAST COURT SESSION IN DECEMBER OR HAVE WE HAD ONE? >> YEAH, WE HAD ONE LAST WEEK. >> WE HAD ONE LAST WEEK AND THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG SO NO DELAYS IN THAT. JASON, REAL QUICK ON PARKS WITH THE POOL CLOSURE. I SEE PART TIME STAFF WENT DOWN FROM 37 TO 32 ON COLIN'S REPORT. IS THAT YOU? DID YOU HAVE TO LET ANYBODY GO DURING THIS CLOSURE? >> WE HAVE NOT AS OF YET HAD ANYBODY THAT HAS RESIGNED OR GO FOR THAT. I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS BEEN A BACK AND FORTH WITH COLIN TO JUST GET SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS CLARIFIED. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM. I DIDN'T SEE HER REPORT FOR THIS ONE COME OUT, BUT THERE WAS QUESTIONS ON THE LAST ONE THAT THEY WERE DOUBLE COUNTED. FOR EXAMPLE, FACILITY ATTENDANCE, WE HAVE ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY THREE PART TIME AND ONE FULL TIME, AND IT WAS BEING COUNTED ADVERSELY IN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES. WE CLEANED THAT UP AFTER THE DECEMBER 1, SO THAT MAY BE SOME OF THOSE, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CHANGES IN STAFF WISE. SHOULD BE SINCE THAT LAST REPORT. >> BE IT JUMPED OUT AT ME IN HER REPORT. BECAUSE WE WENT FROM FISCAL YEAR '23 OF HAVING 170 EMPLOYEES TO FISCAL YEAR '25 OF HAVING 180, AND I KNOW WE CUT A LOT OF POSITIONS, AND THEN FISCAL YEAR '26 SHOWS 168 SHOWING US LESS THAN FISCAL YEAR '23. WHICH SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT TO ME. WELL, BUT IT SHOWED PART TIME STAFF GREATLY REDUCED AND PUBLIC WORKS GREATLY REDUCED. >> DEPENDING ON WHEN THE REPORT IS, SO IF SHE'S STILL DOING THE MONTHLY ONES, OUR PART TIME STAFF DOES DROP OFF AFTER SUMMER. DURING THE PEAK SEASON WE WOULD HAVE EXCESS OF 15-20 ADDITIONAL LIFE GUARDS. BUT GIVEN THIS TIME FRAME WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT, SO IT SHOULDN'T CHANGE FROM THE DECEMBER REPORT TO THE JANUARY REPORT. BUT IF IT'S A FULL YEAR, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE OUR PART TIME STAFF LEVELS DO FLUCTUATE AND SO WE DO HAVE ABOUT 15-20 ADDITIONAL PART TIME STAFF DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. >> ANY UPDATE ON ESTIMATED COMPLETION? >> I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU ESTIMATED COMPLETION. KEEPS TELLING YOU IT WAS YESTERDAY, SO THAT IS OUR BATTLE BACK AND FORTH. IT IS OUT TO BID, BIDS ARE DUE TOMORROW. WE HAVE BID OPENING AT 2:00 P.M. TOMORROW. HOLIDAYS DID SLOW THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT ONE, BUT I CAN REPORT POSITIVE ON THAT. I WAS NERVOUS FIRST DURING THE HOLIDAYS BECAUSE IT GOT MINIMAL CONTACT. BUT WHEN WE PUT OUR FIRST ADDENDUM OUT ON THE PROJECT, WE HAVE I BELIEVE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD SLATED THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED AND THEY WERE PLANNING TO PUT BITS IN. THEY STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR BIDS AND HAVE THEM BY TEO O'CLOCK TOMORROW. BUT THAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN FOR ABIGAIL. ONCE WE GET THOSE BACK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. >> THAT WAS WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT. >> I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND EVERYONE SAID, NO, THE HOLIDAYS WON'T AFFECT. >> I THINK THE HOLIDAY IS MORE AFFECTED, JUST PEOPLE RESPONDING AND SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT A BID. BUT ONCE THEY CAME BACK IS WHEN WE GOT AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE REACHING OUT. IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE NEW YEAR IS WHEN OUR EMAIL BOX GOT FLOODED WITH THOSE IN QUESTIONS ON IT. I CAN TELL YOU WE DID HAVE A PRE-PROPOSAL MEETING. THAT WAS PART OF THE ADDENDUM THAT PUT THE MINUTES OUT ON THAT, AND WE DID STRESS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND TRYING TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON, IS HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN GET THE PROJECT DONE. THAT IS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING, BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THEIR PROPOSALS, KEEPING IN MIND OBVIOUSLY COST, BUT HOW QUICKLY THAT PROJECT CAN TAKE UNDERWAY. [04:45:03] THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK TO YOU ALL AT THE 27TH MEETING. AGAIN, BID WILL COME IN TOMORROW. THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO REVIEW THOUGH, SO THEY CAN SUBMIT AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME. ALSO STILL WORKING WITH SEPARATE VENDORS TO MAINLY FOR SPLASH PAD AND PLAYGROUNDS TO SECURE THOSE SEPARATELY. IT IS PART OF THE PROPOSAL SO IF SOMEBODY DOES SUBMIT THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO EXPLORE AS THE FULL CONTRACT, WE CAN, BUT WE ARE LOOKING SEPARATELY TO MAXIMIZE OUR DOLLAR FOR THAT ONE. >> WELL, IT'S GETTING LATE, NOT TONIGHT. BUT IT'S GETTING LATE IN THIS PROCESS TO GET SPONSORSHIPS GOING SO WE KNOW OUR BUDGET. I SAW IT IN THE REPORT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT A MONTH AGO OR TWO MONTHS AGO. >> MARTHA AND I ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THAT PIECE AS WELL. WE DO HAVE A MEETING WITH AREAS FAMILY THURSDAY TO TALK ABOUT THE MEMORIAL ONE. WE'RE HOPEFUL TO KICK THAT ONE OFF. SOME OF THE PLAN DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD WITH THAT IS, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS, IT'D BE A PERFECT ROLL INTO KICK START PHASE 2, KNOWING WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. STILL HAVE THAT ONE ON THE RADAR AS WELL. >> HAVE YOU HAD ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THE FIELD? >> I HAVE TRIED TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, BUT THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED OFFICIALLY TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS ON IT. AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT PROJECT CAN KICK OFF. POSTING FOR BIDS IS SLATED TO GO OUT NEXT WEEK, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT ONE AT THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. >> THOUGHT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT THE END OF JANUARY? >> WE WERE, BUT THE DOCUMENTS DID NOT GET TO US IN TIME TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LEGAL REVIEW AND GET THE POSTING OUTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> WITHOUT SAYING THE NAME, YOU'RE SAYING THAT BURDETT WAS LATE GETTING YOU THE DOCUMENTS? >> YES. >> THERE WAS TO HAVE THE DOCUMENTS TO YOU THE NIGHT WE HAD THE MEETING. >> THEY HAD THE 100% PLANS, BUT THE 100% PLANS, WHICH THEN ENDED UP TAKING LONGER ON THE ADDITIONS THAT WE MADE THAT NIGHT. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE. THE DELAY THAT WOULD GO IN THERE, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE THIS LONG A DELAY. WE CHECKED IN WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT. ABIGAIL WAS PRIORITY NUMBER 1. WE GOT THAT ONE OUT SAME TIME. THE HOLIDAYS DID THROW OFF A DELAY IN THAT AS FAR AS POSTING GOES. THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED TO POST WASN'T ACCURATE DATES, SO THAT ONE THREW THAT OFF. BUT THE CRITO PARK ONE, UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT RECEIVE THOSE IN TIME TO GET IT POSTED, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT FOR THE JANUARY. >> DISAPPOINTING. >> WHAT ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT AT FREEDOM? >> ALL THE PARTS ARE IN ORDER FOR THAT ONE. JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE OFFICIAL DELIVERY DATES. IT'S STILL ANTICIPATED FOR EARLY SPRING. I'M JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO GIVE AN OFFICIAL TIMELINE ON WHEN ALL THE PRODUCT WILL BE DELIVERED, SO WE'RE COMING QUICK ON THAT ONE. THEN BATES PARK WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT AGREEMENT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IT JANUARY 27 MEETING AS WELL. THE ONLY RESPONSE I'M WAITING ON IS FOR FENCING. BUT WE FINALLY GOT THE CONTRACT BACK FROM THE FIELD BUILDER AND DESIGNER ON THAT, HAVE A QUOTE FOR CONCRETE, AND THE LAST ONE WILL BE THE FENCE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL. >> I'M JOKING, GORI, BEFORE YOU WRITE IT. I'M ENJOYING MY PRIVATE PICKLEBALL COURT. THANKS FOR BUILDING THAT FOR ME. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> NOBODY'S EVER THERE. MY SON GOT IT FOR CHRISTMAS, AND WE'VE BEEN OVER THERE SIX TIMES NOW. NOBODY'S BEEN OVER THERE. >> [OVERLAPPING] THERE NOW BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED PRIOR TO AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN AUTOMATE AND DO. RECENT DISCUSSION I HAD WITH STAFF IS WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO START A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER TO CONDENSE THINGS FOR PARKS AND REC THAT WE CAN PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, POST ON FACEBOOK, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I JUST FELT LIKE AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH AND THE PLAYBOOK'S GREAT, WHEN THE PLAYBOOK SPANS FOUR MONTHS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T THINKING ABOUT THE MATH, THEY'RE PLANNING THAT NOW WHERE THEY DID, AND THEY FORGOT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON FOR FEBRUARY IS TO DO A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN FEBRUARY. WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE THAT AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE NEW THINGS. WHEN THE NEW PLAYGROUND'S PUT IN, WE CAN PUT A PIECE ON THERE. TRYING SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS TO GO WITH THAT TO FURTHER [04:50:01] PROMOTE AND MAKE THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S GOING ON. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CORE. >> IT IS. >> YOU'RE SHARING IT WITH SOME PEOPLE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR A FACT. BECAUSE EVERY TIME I'VE DRIVEN PAST THERE, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE AT IT. I AM TELLING YOU, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. >> TELL EVERYBODY WHERE IT IS, THOUGH. >> IT'S AT THE BACK OF BATES PARK IN THE KINGS BUILDING. >> IN ALL FAIRNESS, MIGHT THE THREE TIMES I'VE GONE PAST, BEEN THE THREE TIMES THAT PEOPLE WERE THERE, AND IT WAS JUST COINCIDENCE. THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> MAYBE IT WAS US. >> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS AS WELL AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT THAT WE PROBABLY LOOK AT IS I THINK I MIGHT PUT A SIGN THERE RIGHT AT THAT ROAD. BECAUSE IF YOU RETURN LOOKING. >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THERE. >> YOU DON'T KNOW. >> YOU OUGHT TO PUT IT IN AT THE FRONT. >> OUR OFFICERS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. SOME OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A BALL COURT BACK THERE. >> ARE THEY PLAYING FOOTBALL? >> NOT THEIR FAULT. NO SERIOUSNESS. >> WHAT ABOUT IT? >> AS YOU ENTER OFF OF 35, A SIGN THAT SAYS DISC GOLF PICKLEBALL. >> WE CAN LOOK THAT. >> JUST A FEW PEOPLE DRIVE BY. >> TALKS ABOUT PARKS AMENITIES. >> JUST LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME AMENITIES IN HERE. THIS GOLF. IT'S WAVING INTO TREES, YOU HAVE TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT. >> I WOULD THINK EVERY ONE OF OUR PARKS SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF SIGNAGE WAY FINDING WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE PARKS THAT SHOWS WHAT ELSE AVAILABLE AT THIS PARK. >> MAYBE WE CAN PRINT A QR CODE LIKE PICKLEBALL SIGN THIS WAY, QR CODE THAT HAS THE PIN DROP ON THE GOOGLE MAPS. SCAN IT. WE'LL EXPLORE IT. >> I DON'T KNOW. OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOT SOFTBALL, BUT IT'S GOT MULTIPLE PLAYGROUNDS. COVER BASKETBALL, WHICH WE'VE INVESTED HEAVILY IN, AND THEN, OF COURSE, ALSO GOLF. >> THAT BASKETBALL PLANE IS USED ALL THE TIME. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY OUT THERE PLAYING. >> OR DANCING. >> OR DANCING. >> WHAT ABOUT DANCING? >> GOING ON AT THE BASKETBALL COURT. MY EXPERIENCE. SOMETIMES, BUT REHEARSALS FOR YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE? >> NO. >> [INAUDIBLE] CHIEF? PAST YOUR BEDTIME. >> ONLY ONE MORE HOUR. [LAUGHTER] >> COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. [COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL] I'LL JUST SAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER TONIGHT. WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A LONG MEETING GOING IN. YOU HAD 11 O'CLOCK. NOBODY? [BACKGROUND] I THANK YOU ALL FOR SITTING THROUGH IT AND ALSO HAPPY NEW YEAR. WE HAVE A FANTASTIC YEAR AHEAD OF US. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS. THANK YOU AGAIN. ANYBODY ELSE? >> NO, YOU SAID IT ALL. >> HEARING NOTHING OUT I'M GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. [EXECUTIVE SESSION] CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. THE COURTS WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED THEREIN. ITEM NUMBER 21, DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, VIOLATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF THE PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, ANGLETON [INAUDIBLE] LIVING CORPORATION, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, AND PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10:54 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK MOVING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 11:10. [OPEN SESSION] COUNCIL I HAVE ACTION COMING OUT OF ITEM 21. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT TO ADLC DIANE MATHIS. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. DIANE MATHIS ON ADLC. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> SAME SIGN, MOTION CARRIES. THAT WILL BE THE END OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT, AND IT'S BEEN A MARATHON, BUT WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 11:11 P.M. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.