Jan 27, 2026 City Council

THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON IT. THEY'RE TRYING TO. IT'S 6:00.

[ DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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AND GLAD WE'RE ALL ABLE TO MEET HERE TONIGHT.

I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

ELIJAH. LA. YOU'LL BE LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE.

AND THEN WE HAVE PASTOR RYAN OLIVIER WITH HEART CITY CHURCH WHO WILL DO THE INVOCATION.

SO PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. PASTOR RYAN, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE PODIUM.

ELIJAH, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR TO LIVE IN THIS GREAT CITY.

WE THANK YOU, FATHER, THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE CITY. YOU WOULD DO IT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

THANK YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR COUNCILMAN, OUR MAYOR FATHER, OUR CITY SECRETARY.

WE THANK YOU FOR LUPI, FATHER, WHO'S RUN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ACTING CITY MANAGER.

WE JUST THANK YOU THAT YOU WOULD SPEAK TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM AND GUIDE THEIR STEPS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

AND WE JUST THANK YOU THAT EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE TONIGHT WILL GET DONE AND BRING YOU HONOR.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU.

CITY ATTORNEY. ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

[1. The presentation of Certificates of Appreciation to Pastor Ryan Olivier and Constable Willie Howell for their dedication to the Shop with a Cop program.]

THANK YOU. WHAT AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. WE'LL START WITH CONSTABLE LILY HOUSE.

LILY? HOW? AKA CHILLY WILLY, IN GRATEFUL RECOGNITION OF YOUR VITAL ROLE IN THE SHOP WITH THE COP PROGRAM.

AND FOR FOUNDING THE JD WHITE LEGACY OF GIVING FUNDRAISER.

JANUARY 27TH, 2026. SIGNED BY JOHN WRIGHT MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN TO A CHURCH WHO'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS PARTNERING WITH THE CITY PASTOR RYAN, YOU DO A LOT FOR US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ESPECIALLY OPENING YOUR DOORS AND ALLOWING ALL THE KIDS TO COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELPING THE PD ARRANGE THIS.

THIS CERTIFICATE IS PROUDLY PRESENTED TO PASTOR RYAN OLIVIER WITH SINCERE APPRECIATION TO THE HEART CITY CHURCH AND THE CONGREGATION FOR THEIR FAITHFUL PARTNERSHIP AND CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE SHOP WITH A COP PROGRAM SIGNED JANUARY 27TH, 2026.

JOHN WRIGHT MAYOR AND ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL. FROM OUR CHURCH ARE HERE AS WELL.

IF YOU'RE WITH US, STAND UP. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL Y'ALL DO.

WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT WITHOUT YOU. MAY I JUST SAY THAT COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS HELPED HIS PREACHING? ALWAYS HELPED WITH THAT SHOP WITH THE COP PROGRAM THIS YEAR AFTER HIS PASSING, HE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL. THE SPEAR TIP OF THE SPEAR AND JD WHITE LEGACY OF GIVING FUNDRAISER, WHICH RAISED OVER $47,000. AND PASTOR BRIAN IN HEART CITY, NOT JUST THIS YEAR. FOR MANY YEARS THIS GROUP HAS BEEN THERE FOR US.

THEY OPENED THEIR DOORS TO THEIR CHURCH. WE DRIVE THE BUS IN.

WE DRIVE THE BUS OUT. HE ALWAYS TELLS THE KIDS, YOU BE QUIET IN THE CHURCH WHEN YOU GET ON THE BUS AND BE DRIVING.

YOU MAKE ALL THE NOISE YOU WANT. BUT ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE FROM HEART CITY, I THANK YOU BECAUSE Y'ALL Y'ALL ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS PROGRAM.

AND YOU KNOW IT. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH. THIS YEAR WAS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE JD, WE NAMED IT AFTER HIM.

I SAID THE LAST TIME THIS YEAR WE'RE GIVING AWAY TWO $1,000 SCHOLARSHIPS TO TO TWO SENIORS FROM THE JD WHITE LEGACY OF GIVING.

AND THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.

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FIND A HOLE. YEAH. JUST JUMP ON IN. MAYBE A GOOD PICTURE OF ALL THE BABIES.

YES. SQUEEZE IN THE FRONT. YEAH.

YEAH. I'LL SIT DOWN. I'LL FIND A WAY.

HEY, Y'ALL! LOOK. ONE. TWO. THREE.

HEY. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[2. Presentation and recognition of the R.O.A.D. Ready Program Achievement and Proclamation. ]

ACHIEVEMENT AND PROCLAMATION. HECTOR, YOU LIKE TO KICK OFF? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. THIS ROAD READY PROGRAM IS A IS A SAFETY PROGRAM THAT THE CITY OF ANGLETON INITIALLY STARTED APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO WITH THE HELP OF MANY DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS, MANY DIFFERENT CITY EMPLOYEES, AND ALSO THE HELP OF TML, WE'RE FINALLY ABLE TO ACHIEVE THIS AWARD. THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT TO MANNY. WITH TML.

AND ALSO I KNOW JOHN HAS A FEW WORDS TO SAY AFTER I KNOW WE CAN READ THE PROCLAMATION.

GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING US TODAY. NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, I HAVE WITH ME CHASE PATTEN, THE RISK SERVICES MANAGER FOR AUSTIN, AND WE JUST HAD TO MAKE THE DRIVE BACK TO ANGLETON.

WE LOVE BACK. A COUPLE OF THINGS BEHIND THE PROGRAM.

I DO HAVE A LETTER MR. MAYOR FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT.

I HAVE A PLAQUE TO PRESENT. WE'RE SUPER THRILLED TO EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING ALL FIVE BADGES OF THE PROGRAM. SO THERE'S ELEMENTS TO THIS.

AS MENTIONED, IT WAS A TWO YEAR FEAT. THIS NOTEWORTHY ACHIEVEMENT IS A TESTAMENT TO A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND DEDICATION OF YOUR TEAM, NOT ONLY IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GETTING THE RECOGNITION TODAY, BUT WITH YOUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, YOUR RISK MANAGEMENT TEAM, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ACROSS THE BOARD, I MEAN, SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT HERE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT BUT ROADWAY SPECIFIC IS FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WORKING ON OR NEAR THE ROADWAYS THAT CREATE POTENTIAL FOR CATASTROPHIC ENCOUNTERS WITH OTHER VEHICLES, OR THE EXTENT OF DAMAGE OR INJURY IS NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO FAULT.

THE ROADWAY INITIATIVE WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ENSURE ALL STAFF ARE AWARE OF THESE POTENTIAL HAZARDS AND EXPOSURES.

ANGLETON TOOK THE PLEDGE OF APPROXIMATELY 300 CITIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE ANGLETON IS A MEMBER OF RISK POOL, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF ROUGHLY AROUND 2800 MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.

THOUSAND CITIES MUNICIPALITIES ARE A PART OF THAT.

AND THE THE PROCESS WITH THAT, WITH THOSE 300 THAT HAVE COME ON BOARD AND TAKEN A PLEDGE, I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT ANGLETON IS IN THE TOP FIVE WITHIN REGION 14 OF APPROXIMATELY 12 TO 13 MEMBERS THAT HAVE ACHIEVED THIS ROAD READY RECOGNITION. SO WE THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. THE ENCLOSED CERTIFICATE RECOGNIZES THE ORGANIZATION'S COMPLETION OF THE FIVE BADGES AND THE DEDICATION OF ALL STAFF TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND HEALTHY WORKPLACE.

THIS EFFORT IS PARAMOUNT TO THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RISK POOL. AND WE SEEK TO THAT.

WE SEEK TO CREATE WITH OUR MEMBERS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP IN LOSS PREVENTION AND RISK MANAGEMENT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN ON THIS REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. TO MY SCOUTS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MERIT BADGES I WORK ON FOR THE CITY.

OR I PROBABLY WILL NOT BE RECEIVING MY PUBLIC SPEAKING MERIT BADGE TONIGHT.

LET ME START OFF BY SAYING THAT THIS AWARD WAS TRULY A TEAM EFFORT.

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I MEAN, EVERYBODY I HAD ANTHONY FROM PURCHASING HELPING ME WITH CDL TRAINING, BUT ONE DEPARTMENT STOOD OUT IN PARTICULAR THEIR PROMPT AND PURCHASING TO TAKE THE NECESSARY SAFETY EQUIPMENT.

I GOT TO GIVE OUT SOME COINS AND I WANT TO THANK MISS HEIDI FOR THAT.

SHE TRULY KEEPS PUBLIC WORKS RUNNING. THIS DEPARTMENT SAYING YES, THIS DEPARTMENT STAYED ENGAGED CONSTANTLY PROVIDED FEEDBACK.

SOME OF IT WAS CONSTRUCTIVE, BUT MOST OF IT WAS POSITIVE AND ALL OF IT HELPED US ALL IMPROVE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR TRUSTING ME IN THIS ROLE AND MAKING SAFETY A PRIORITY.

CHIEF, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ME WHERE I'M AT AND LET ME SHOWCASE WHAT THE STAFF IS CAPABLE OF AND YOUR CONSTANT SUPPORT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

YOU FEEL VERY CLOSE.

TO MY FEARLESS LEADER, HECTOR. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A ROOM TO WORK, ALLOWING ME TO TAKE THE REINS.

YOUR LEADERSHIP IS BARNUM. YOU'RE AN AMAZING GUY.

THANK YOU. AND, OF COURSE, ANDY, YOU LAID A SOLID FOUNDATION FOR ME TO BUILD ON. AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BROTHER.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION COUNCIL, THE SHOUT OUTS TO WALK AROUND AND THE WILLINGNESS TO BE PRESENT.

THE CREW APPRECIATES THAT. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRESENTS, LET'S NOT FORGET WHAT MAKES THE CITY SO GREAT THE CITIZENS, THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US. AND KEEP US ACCOUNTABLE.

THEIR INVOLVEMENT IS TRULY APPRECIATED. I CAN'T GIVE THEM ALL COIN, BUT.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANT TO THANK MANNY, OUR FELLOW VET, AND OUR TEAM LOGO.

HE ALWAYS BRINGS CONVERSATION AND LIGHTING LIKE, YOU'RE AN AMAZING GUY.

YOU HELPED ME WITH THE TRANSITION FROM ACTIVE TO CIVILIAN LIFE. I APPRECIATE IT, BROTHER. THANK YOU. LAST COIN GOES TO PUBLIC WORKS.

TOMORROW I'LL WORK. I'LL PASS THIS AROUND. LET EVERYONE TOUCH IT, ENJOY IT, AND THEN I'LL PUT IT IN A CASE.

AND I'LL EVENTUALLY HAVE A LOCKER DISPLAY CASE.

IT'LL BE NEXT TO THE AWARD. EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT PUBLIC WORK WAS CAPABLE OF DOING. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE SEEING SMILING FACES AND HIGH VIS VESTS OUT THERE.

AS ALWAYS, SAFETY IS NO ACCIDENT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? OTHER THAN THAT YOU KNOW, JOHN'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH THIS.

HE HAS SPEARHEADED IT, ESPECIALLY TO GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

OUR TEAM HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST.

AND STILL, THIS IS JUST A START FOR US. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BETTER THINGS COMING SAFETY WISE FOR US.

I THINK IT'S YOUR TURN. MY TURN. GO, HECTOR. JOHN.

YES. ANYONE. TO PUBLIC WORKS.

NO. DO YOU WANT TO ASK THE REST OF PUBLIC WORKS? EXCUSE ME. ANY MEMBERS FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO COME UP, PLEASE? YES, PLEASE. BRANDY. BRANDY? NO, MA'AM. I GOTTA READ THIS PROCLAMATION. YES.

OFFICE OF THE MAYOR. CITY OF ANGLETON PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE ROAD READY INITIATIVE LAUNCHED BY THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RISK POOL IN JANUARY 2022, IS A RISK MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOCUSED ON IMPROVING ROADWAY SAFETY.

AND WHEREAS ROAD RADKE INVOLVES FIVE KEY ELEMENTS, PROMOTES CONTINUOUS EDUCATION, AND EMPHASIZES PROACTIVE SAFETY MEASURES TAKEN DAILY.

AND WHEREAS, THE RISK POOL CELEBRATES JANUARY AS ROAD READY MONTH TO RECOGNIZE ACHIEVEMENTS AND BEST PRACTICES AND SAFETY STANDARDS.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON TEXAS PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS AMONG ONLY A HANDFUL OF CITIES RECOGNIZED AS ACHIEVING ALL FIVE DIGITAL BADGE BADGES AND RODE READY'S HISTORY TO THEIR COMMITMENT TO MANAGING ROADWAY RISK THROUGH DISCUSSIONS, POLICY REVIEWS, AND ENHANCED SAFETY ASSIGNMENTS OR ASSESSMENTS.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ANGLETON CONGRATULATES THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR ACHIEVING ALL FIVE ROAD READY DIGITAL BADGES AND RECOGNIZES THIS RARE ACHIEVEMENT AS A TESTAMENT TO THE DEDICATION AND HARD WORK OF CITY STAFF.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. JOHN WRIGHT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL,

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PROCLAIM THIS 27TH DAY OF JANUARY 2026. CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

I REALLY LOVE STARTING THE MEETING LIKE THAT. Y'ALL. NICE.

[CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ]

I HAVE ONE ITEM. FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. MISS GUIDRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL ITEM SEVEN? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NOW? SHE'LL BE OUT OF SEVEN.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. DID YOU RECEIVE ANY OTHER? NO. OKAY. MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A GENERAL VICTIM ASSISTANCE GRANT TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION, TO FUND A CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

FINDING THAT THE MEETING COMPLIED WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE UPDATES TO THE EMPLOYEE POLICY MANUAL COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES REGULAR AGENDA.

[5. Annual update and discussion on the Ashland subdivision development. ]

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE NEXT 3 OR 4 ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA HAVE TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPERS PRESENTING THEIR UPDATES TO THE INDIVIDUAL SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE CITY.

THE FIRST ONE WILL BE ASHLAND. I HAVE ONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY SENT TO ME BY DEVELOPER CHARLES VON SMITH WAS TRAVELING.

AND OF COURSE IT'S HELD UP BY THE WEATHER, BUT KYLE WILL BE PASSING OUT THAT SECOND ONE.

THE GRAYSTONE WILL BE PRESENTED TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE SOMEONE HERE FOR THAT ONE.

MISTER RAY HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 10TH, SO THAT ONE WILL OCCUR ON FEBRUARY 10TH.

SO WE'LL HAVE ASHLAND FIRST. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF WILL BE BACK.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL NAME IS MARK JANIK, VP OF DEVELOPMENT FOR ASHTON GRAY. WE WE HAD AN UPDATE LAST MEETING, BUT I NEED A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS.

I WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT ASHLAND, THAT ASHLAND IS THE FIRST MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY IN ANGLETON.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE OVER 2000 LOTS. I WANT TO START OFF WITH A COUPLE OF APOLOGIES.

FIRST OF ALL, I TOLD YOU THAT OUR TIA, OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, HAD NO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT WAS WRONG. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

SECOND APOLOGY IS TO THE COUNTY AND TO TEX-DOT.

THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE WITH US.

MATT HANKS WITH ENGINEERING. YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER HELPED US GET THROUGH A PRETTY PAINFUL DRAINAGE STUDY.

TOOK OVER A YEAR TO GET APPROVED. WHEN THE ANGLETON LEVEE WAS BUILT.

IT INUNDATED 1500 ACRES TO THE NORTH, INCLUDING INCLUDING OUR 1000 ACRE TRACT IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

I IMAGINE WHEN THEY BUILT THAT LEVEE, WHATEVER, 100 YEARS AGO, THEY DIDN'T DO ANY DRAINAGE STUDIES.

SO WE HAVE MOVED A MILLION YARDS OF DIRT TO OVER THE TANK FOR THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER MILLION.

YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN IS THE THE WET PONDS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT UP.

THE TEX DOT HAS ALSO BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE. THEY'VE LET US BUILD OR DESIGN A TEMPORARY FEEDER.

WHEN YOU SEE COUNTY ROAD, YOU CAN SEE THE BOULEVARD JUST TO THE LEFT COMING IN.

IT'S GOING TO WARP AROUND AND GO INTO 288. THE FEEDER THAT TEX-DOT WANTED US TO BUILD WAS $20 MILLION.

WE CONVINCED THEM TO DO ABOUT 1000 FOOT OF PERMANENT FEEDER, TEMPORARY ASPHALT AND ENTRANCE RAMPS TO ACCESS THE BOULEVARD.

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BUT WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT FEEDER COST TO $5 MILLION.

WE DID MEET WITH THE COUNTY. WE MET WITH COMMISSIONER CADE.

WE HAVE A SALES TAX PROPOSAL WHERE HE COULD ACTUALLY GRAB SOME OF THE SALES TAX THAT WILL BE GENERATED.

GIVE US A SMALL PORTION TO HELP US PAY FOR THAT FEEDER.

NOW I WANT TO GO INTO THE TIA IMPROVEMENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP THREE, TOP LEFT.

THE TOP THREE, THOSE ARE ALREADY BUILT. THERE'S TWO FULL BLOWN SIGNALS AT THE INTERSECTION SOUTH OF THE SCHOOL AND AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE SCHOOL.

THERE'S ALSO A FLASHING YELLOW THAT WAS BUILT AT AT THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE.

AND 521, WE'RE GOING TO BE CONVERTING THAT TO A FULL BLOWN SIGNAL RATHER QUICKLY.

THAT REPRESENTS ALMOST $3 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID.

MATT HANKS IS WORKING WITH THE WITH THE WITH TEX-DOT TO MAKE THIS A 90 DEGREE TURN RIGHT HERE AND MAKE THIS A 90 DEGREE INTERSECTION.

THIS INTERSECTION IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS. TXDOT AND THE COUNTY ARE WORKING ON THAT, AND THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING RELATIVELY QUICKLY. CAN YOU GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THE EXHIBIT? OKAY. FURTHER TIA IMPROVEMENT. OH, AND BY THE WAY, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT A ROUNDABOUT.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO LONDON, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

BUT THEY'RE STUDYING EITHER ROUNDABOUT OR A FULL BLOWN SIGNAL RIGHT HERE.

AND THEY THINK THAT THEY'LL BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE FUNDING IN PLACE. SO THESE ARE THE TWO MAJOR INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS AT THIS TIME.

WHEN WE FINISH OUR WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO FINISHING THE SOUTH HALF, WE ARE THE TIA SAYS THAT WE NEED TO PUT A SIGNAL RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE EXIT RAMP OF OF ONTO ANCHOR. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING THIS WAY.

SO WE'LL BE DOING A FULL BLOWN SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION.

AND THEN AT THIS INTERSECTION, WE HAVE TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL LEFT TURN LANE TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC GOING NORTH ON 288.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

WHERE TO START? SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT A LIGHT HERE AND HERE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT OVERPASS? A LIGHT JUST ON THE LEFT SIDE. JUST ON THIS SIDE.

TIA WAS WANTING US TO ADD A LONG LEFT TURN LANE ON THE EAST SIDE OF 288 FOR THE PEOPLE GOING NORTH.

WHAT'S THE TIMING OF A ROUNDABOUT HERE? DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY INDICATION? 523 AN ANCHOR. THE. HOW DID THEY PUT IT? THEY PUT IT THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN RATHER QUICKLY.

THEY RECOGNIZED THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM INTERSECTION AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING I WOULD THINK.

CONSTRUCTION WILL START THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE FUNDING.

THAT WOULD BE A TXDOT PROJECT. ONE TO THE NORTH, WHERE ANCHOR COMES INTO 521 WILL BE A COUNTY PROJECT.

THEY NEED ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO MAKE THAT TURN TO COME IN AT 90 DEGREES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. LOOKING OVER HERE AT U2 DID.

WHY WOULD THEY THINK THAT A ROUNDABOUT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT THERE? ON A ROUNDABOUT ON A ON A STATE HIGHWAY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD THAT.

I THOUGHT WHEN SHE CAME, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT UP HERE OR SOMETHING AT ONE TIME BECAUSE SHE MENTIONED 521, BUT SHE DIDN'T SAY 523. THEY'RE CALLING IT A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE.

YOU'LL DEFINITELY GOING TO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN A RED LIGHT.

IN FACT, WHEN WE AT FORT BEND COUNTY REALLY LIKES THE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT WE WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY MONUMENTS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RUN RIGHT OVER THEM. WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS THIS IS SO THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING. THAT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT THEY BUILD, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO SIGNALIZE AND THEY ARE GOING TO SLOW DOWN THIS INTERSECTION WITH SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC CALMING. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THAT INTERSECTION, BUT WE ALL ASSUME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT, NOT A ROUNDABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE WITH THE LATEST FEEDBACK I GOT BACK FROM TXDOT WAS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIGHT UP THAT SIGNAL BECAUSE OF THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE. IT SAID IT DIDN'T NEED TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT STUDY WAS ALSO DONE BEFORE THEY BUILT THE NEW SCHOOL.

CORRECT? I MEAN, EVERY TIME THEY DO A STUDY, IT'S AFTER THE FACT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A YOU'VE GOT A 60 MILE AN HOUR STATE HIGHWAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A SIGNAL AT THE BOTTOM OF AN OVERPASS.

I MEAN, I CAN ONLY THINK OF A FEW PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

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SOMEBODY STOPPED. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY GOOD PATH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PATH IS. I LIKE TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, I SEE THIS AS A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.

AND THE ROUNDABOUT IS THE OBVIOUS HERE. THE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE BLINKING YELLOW LIGHTS, THE BLINKING YELLOW ARROWS THAT WERE THE ROUNDABOUT WILL HAVE ABOUT AS MUCH POSITIVE FEEDBACK AS THOSE GUYS.

YEAH. I MEAN, I WAS JUST I WAS JUST ACTUALLY IN, IN LONDON A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND I DIDN'T SEE A ROUNDABOUT ON A ROAD THAT'S TRAVELED AT, YOU KNOW, ON THE MS THERE ARE NO ROUNDABOUTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE HIGH.

THOSE ARE MAJOR ROADS. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT WHEN YOU GET OFF OF THE THE MAIN ROADS, THEN YOU GET OFF TO THE ARTERIALS, THEN THEY HAVE ROUNDABOUTS EVERYWHERE. CORRECT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT ON A HIGHWAY. I BUILT SEVERAL ROUNDABOUTS BEFORE, BUT NEVER ON A HIGHWAY.

EXACTLY. BECAUSE IT'S A BAD IDEA. IT'S A BAD PRACTICE.

JUST DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER. I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE IT. OH, NO. YOU'RE GOOD. I JUST WANT TO STATE THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.

WELL, I MEAN, I'VE SENT AND I'LL GO ON THE RECORD.

I SENT AN EMAIL TO TEXDOT AND I HAVE NOT HAD A RESPONSE YET ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION.

IT'S NOT EVEN INSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GOING TO BE A CITY.

THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THE GEOMETRICS WILL WORK WITH THE ROUNDABOUT, NOT WITH WHAT IS THAT? IT'S 55 MILES AN HOUR. SO THEY'RE GOING 70. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT ALTERNATIVE, AND APPARENTLY THEY ALREADY HAVE FUNDING TO DO SOMETHING THERE.

ON 32, YOU MENTIONED 32. HOW IT COMES IN HERE.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE SOON.

YOU'RE GOING TO CONVERT THAT TO A SIGNAL. WE PUT A FLASHING YELLOW SIGNAL AND WE HAD AN AGREEMENT AT 1000 HOMES.

WE WOULD MAKE IT INTO A TRAFFIC LIGHT. OKAY. THEY'VE ALREADY COME BACK AND SAID YOU NEED TO DO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 110 HOMES. BUT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO WE ARE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING FINISHING OUT.

WHEN YOU DO A FLASHING YELLOW, YOU DO ALL THE LOOP DETECTORS, YOU DO ALL OF THAT STUFF.

YOU'RE JUST REALLY CHANGING THE SIGNAL. SO IT'S NOT NOT, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY IT'S 300,000.

NORMALLY THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER POSSIBLY 100,000.

AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE COUNTY DID BLACKTOP ANCHOR ROAD.

YES. AND IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. AND THEY DID THAT BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED ANY HOMES.

SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE ANCHOR IS A COUNTY ROAD.

THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU ON THIS FEEDER IS, DID AT LEAST GOING TO TIE IN TO THIS SPOT HERE GOING ACROSS.

IS THAT WHERE IT'S COMING IN AT? NO. YOU SEE, OR IS IT GOING TO GO A LITTLE NORTH OF THAT? YOU SEE THAT? YOU SEE THAT THING RIGHT THERE? THAT IS THE DITCH THAT'S PARALLEL TO THE ANGLETON LEVY, RIGHT? OKAY. IT HAD WITHIN ITSELF A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR FEEDER BRIDGE.

OKAY. SO WE WE WALKED THE ROAD UP TO HERE. WE GOT IT APPROVED BY THE COUNTY SO THAT WE COULD AVOID THAT FEEDER BRIDGE. OKAY. SO INSTEAD OF 7 MILLION WORTH. 5 MILLION.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN RIGHT ABOUT HERE, AND THERE'LL BE NO OVERPASS THERE.

IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE ANCHOR OVERPASS. I DON'T FORESEE IT BEING NOW, BUT I THINK MAYBE ONE DAY SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE OVER THERE.

IT COULD BE AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES. CORRECT.

WHAT'S THE STATUS? WHAT IS YOUR TIMING OF THAT FEEDER? EXCELLENT. WE HAVE DONE THE TIA. WE'VE DONE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

WE'VE GOT IT PRELIMINARILY APPROVED FROM TXDOT.

WE'LL GO INTO CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WILL TAKE 2 OR 3 MONTHS TO GET THEM APPROVED.

WE REALLY NEED HELP FROM FROM THE COUNTY TO HELP US BUILD IT.

I CAN'T ABSORB $5 MILLION IN OUR PROFORMA, AND IT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR BRAZORIA COUNTY.

SO WE'RE GETTING POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE ENGINEER AND FROM OUR COMMISSIONER, BUT WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP THEM FUND IT.

THIS SALES TAX REBATE, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE HAVE A GAS STATION OR A STRIP CENTER.

BUT EVERY TIME AMAZON PULLS UP TO A HOUSE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING SALES TAX.

SO THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND IT WOULD BE A NET ZERO COST TO THE COUNTY.

AND THEN WHEN WE HIT OUR 5.5 MILLION OR WHATEVER, THERE'S NO INCOME FOR THEM TO HAVE TO HELP INFRASTRUCTURE MAINLY ROADS.

AND HOW MANY HOUSES ARE YOU AT RIGHT NOW? A THOUSAND, I MEAN 2000 TOTAL.

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SO YOU DO HAVE RESIDENTS LIVING THERE NOW? WE HAVE FIVE CLOSINGS AND THE SCHOOLS ALREADY ASKING US FOR PROJECTED CLOSINGS BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT FULLER THAN THEY EXPECTED.

SO WHAT I DID IS BASE IT ON WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUYING LOTS.

GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND.

YOU CAN SEE OFF TO THE RIGHT WE'VE ALREADY FILLED SECTION SEVEN AND EIGHT.

WE BID THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND PAVING FOR SECTION SEVEN.

AND WE ALSO BUILT THE NEXT MASS GRADING PLAN, WHICH BASICALLY BRINGS A HUGE DETENTION POND AND TIES INTO OUR DITCH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP JUST AHEAD OF THE BUILDERS.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, THAT ROAD DURING SCHOOL HOURS, DURING PICKUP, IT STILL BACKS UP THROUGH HERE.

IT'S CLOGGED. RIGHT? WELL, I SENT OTIS AN EMAIL ABOUT THAT.

WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD TO DROP OFF THAT THEY WERE CUTTING OFF ONE LANE BECAUSE WHEN YOU GOT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, IF YOU HAD TWO LANES, YOU'D HAVE THE KIDS CROSSING WHERE CARS WERE.

SO I SAID, WELL, JUST MAKE IT TWO LANES RIGHT AT THE DROP OFF AND OPEN UP THE REST OF THAT OF THAT UPLOADED STREET TWO LANES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE THAT YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO. AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE TODAY AT PICK UP.

I GOT THERE RIGHT AT 3:00. SCHOOL GETS OUT. I WAS RIGHT THERE AND IT WAS BLOCKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WERE YOU GOING TO THE NORTH? YOU WERE GOING TO THE NORTH.

I'M GOING TO THE NORTH SIDE. YEAH, THE ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE? THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND DID THEY HAVE BOTH THOSE LANES OPEN? YEAH. BOTH OF THESE LANES ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE ARE OPEN, BUT YOUR BOTTLENECK IS YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE COMING IN.

SO THIS ROAD IS THE BOTTLENECK. SO THE ENTRANCE TO THE WELL, EVEN IF YOU MADE THAT SIX LANES, YOU'D STILL BE STACKING UP INSIDE, RIGHT? BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOGGED AT SCHOOL, DROP OFF AND OR AT LEAST AT SCHOOL PICKUP TIME.

SO THE THE SOUTH DRIVEWAY, THE SOUTH IS TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

I'M NOT I DON'T GO OVER THERE FOR THAT. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU AND SPEAK TO IT.

I CAN SPEAK TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SIDE, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ELEMENTARY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONDITION IT'S AT AT 4:00.

WELL, WHEN WE BUILD THESE FUTURE SECTIONS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE TRAFFIC.

SO I NEED TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT ABOUT FURTHER ENHANCEMENTS, BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT ANY TIME SCHOOL TRAFFIC SITS OUT OF THE PUBLIC ROAD. IT'S A PROBLEM. WE WE KNOW ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE EXPERIENCED WEST SIDE, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE PROBLEM ANYMORE LIKE IT USED TO, OR AT LEAST THE SCHOOLS OF SUCCESS. YEAH. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROGRESS WITH THE FEEDER ROAD, SO I'M HOPING IT KEEPS GAINING SPEED AND WE GET THAT FINISHED. AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO BUILD A BRIDGE? WELL, NOT A FEEDER BRIDGE. YOU'RE RIGHT. REMEMBER, IF WE GET THAT FEEDER CONNECTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANGLETON TOWN CENTER.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL EVERYONE AGAIN WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT IN THERE? WELL, WE'RE TALKING TO OTHER DEVELOPERS. IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO PAIR LANDS.

SUGAR LAND. SUGAR LAND HAS A THE CITY HALL AT THE DEAD END.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL SINGLE. SINGLE FIRST FLOOR COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S A MULTIFAMILY ABOVE TYPICAL TOWN CENTER STUFF.

IT REALLY HAD A LOT OF TAX VALUE TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

ARE YOU STILL STICKING WITH HEAVY. THEY SAID ROOFTOPS AND A FEEDER CONNECTION, SO I'M HALFWAY THERE.

THEY KNOW THERE'S A NEED. JUST WANT TO THROW IT BACK OUT THERE.

YOU YOU PUT IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT TIME.

SO I'LL HAVE TO REMIND YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST QUESTION I GET EVERY SINGLE WEEK IS A NEW GROCERY STORE.

I'VE SEEN THE OTHER HEAVY AND I UNDERSTAND THE THE ISSUE.

HEY HEY, HEY, WE LIKE THAT HEAVY. YOU'RE ABOUT TO OUTGROW IT, THOUGH.

I'LL STILL BE USING IT IF WE. IF WE NEED A BIG HEAVY, WE JUST DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD.

ALL RIGHT? NOBODY. YOU GO AHEAD. SURE. IF HE WANTS TO,

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APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. I'M GLAD I'M HERE. OKAY, GOOD.

I KNOW THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE COUNTY JUDGE ARE PRETTY CLOSE FRIENDS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT KICKED THE REROUTING OF OF THAT DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AT ANCHOR IN 523 AT 521. BECAUSE IT'S IT'S BAD.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO PUT A STREETLIGHT THERE, I DON'T KNOW.

WOULD THAT BE TEXDOT? THAT WOULD BE TEXDOT. OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIT AT NIGHT. OH IT'S NOT. I MEAN, I'VE GROWN UP IN THIS COMMUNITY ALL MY LIFE.

I KNOW THAT INTERSECTION VERY WELL. IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW SOME OF US THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.

WE JUST KNOW TO LOOK OVER OUR SHOULDER AND TAKE OFF.

WELL, EVERY POLL DOWN 521 IN FRONT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, WE HUNG STREET LIGHTS ON WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO.

BUT I WANTED TO LIGHT UP THAT AREA. MAYBE I NEED TO TALK TO TEXDOT ABOUT.

AND THE HOA PAYS THE STREETLIGHT BILLS. MAYBE I NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT PUTTING A LIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION, BECAUSE THERE IS A POWER POLE RIGHT THERE, AND THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO HANG A LIGHT FIXTURE ON IT.

RIGHT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ITEM NUMBER SIX, ANNUAL UPDATE DISCUSSION ON THE RESERVE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT.

[6. Annual update and discussion on the Kiber Reserve subdivision development. ]

OUT OF THE 93 HOMES IN TIBER, THERE ARE FIVE.

AS YOU SEE ON THE ILLUSTRATION THEY'RE SENT BY MR. VON SMITH? FIVE LOTS AVAILABLE. AND HE ALSO PROVIDES THE COUNCIL WITH THE HOME SALES YEAR TO DATE.

ON PAGE TWO, AS WELL AS THE SUMMARY ON THE FINAL PAGE OF THE QUARTERLY REPORTS ON THE HOME PRICING AS WELL AS SQUARE FEET. SO THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE ON PAPER. THEY WILL COME BEFORE YOU WITH THEIR SAP UPDATES.

SO YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK WITH THAT DEVELOPER AS WELL IN THE FUTURE.

SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE NEXT.

COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE OTIS TO ADDRESS ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? SO JUST REAL QUICK, YOU SAID THOSE VACANT LOTS ARE LITERALLY THERE'S NO STRUCTURE SITTING ON THEM.

CORRECT. AND HE'S EXPLAINED THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO ADAM ADAMS HOMES AS YOU SEE IN THE ATTACHMENT.

SO ALL LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD BY THE DEVELOPER TO BUILDER.

TO A BUILDER. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE JUST UNDERWAY, AS YOU SEE.

LOOKS LIKE ONE A YEAR. AND ON YOUR SKETCH, WHICH WAY IS NORTH? YES. RIGHT. SO WITH THIS ONE, NORTH WOULD BE STRAIGHT UP RIGHT NOW TO THE RIGHT.

THING. OH COME WITHOUT. JUST ASK HIM. YEAH I DID.

MY ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE FROM RESIDENTS ON EVANS STREET IS STILL THE FLOODING THAT IS PUSHING BACK TOWARDS THEM.

YEP. THE QUESTION I KEEP GETTING IS IS THAT BERM? IS THAT BEING MAINTAINED? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THAT THE WATER IS NOT BEING PUSHED BACK ONTO THEM? IS IT DRAINING IN. HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT LATELY? WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT MR. SMITH CAN HAVE SOMEONE HERE ON THE 10TH WHEN WE BRING THAT OTHER SUBDIVISION.

AUSTIN COLLINS. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT KYLE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

JUST A QUICK UP THERE WITH THE DRAINAGE BETWEEN THE EVANS BACKYARDS.

WHAT WE KIND OF FIGHT ALL THE TIME IS SOMEBODY COMES IN, WE HAVE THE FENCES AND ALL.

THAT'S RIGHT. OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY LINES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT LITTLE DITCH, AND THEN THAT THERE COULD BE 2 OR 3 IN THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW. THEY HAVE A LITTLE DOG, WHATEVER.

THEY CLOSE IT UP. AND THAT'S WHAT WE JUST KIND OF FIGHT OFF AND ON WITHOUT KNOWING.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY ON THIS, AND WE NEED AN HOA REPRESENTATIVE FROM KHYBER TO MAINTAIN AND CONTINUE TO REPORT BACK ON THAT SWELL. THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON THE HOA, RIGHT? JUST SO YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN. OH YOU'RE LIVING.

A LOT MORE THAN 62 HOUSES OCCUPIED. YEAH, BUT ISN'T IT ISN'T IT A IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY,

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RIGHT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 80%. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE STOOD UP.

I MEAN, ACCORDING TO THESE NUMBERS, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH THE DEVELOPER ON WHICH WHICH WAY DOES THE WATER FLOW IN THIS SWELL BEHIND SPLITS? ONE WILL GO TOWARDS ORANGE, ONE WILL GO TOWARDS.

I JUST I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME TROUBLE ON ORANGE STREET, BUT I KNOW WE DID.

CLEANED OUT. DID A LOT OF WORK THERE RECENTLY.

IT LOOKS GREAT. IT'S JUST HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE A FLOODING ISSUE WHEN WE HAVE SOME OF THE BIGGEST, DEEPEST DITCHES RIGHT THERE IN THE PROXIMITY AREA, PLUS THESE RETENTION PONDS THAT ARE HERE.

YEAH. WHY ARE WE. WHY ARE WE STILL SEEING WATER BEING PUSHED INTO EVANS? YOU KNOW, LIKE LIVE OAK WAS SOMETHING THAT. ON WHAT WAS THAT STREET THERE? YEAH. WE'RE BACKS UP TO THE OLD, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH HIGHER.

RIGHT. BUT AT THE END THEY SOLVE THIS ISSUE. SO WE HAD THEY MOVED THEM UP AND LEFT IT WHERE THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT CAN MOW DOWN THERE. SO YOU DON'T FIGHT. THE FENCE ISSUE IS THE FENCE.

A LOT OF IT'S THE FENCE. WHEN THEY BUILD THOSE FENCES, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY CREATING A DAM.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'RE BUILDING ON THE EASEMENT.

THEY'RE BUILDING NOT ACROSS IT, BUT ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE SLOPE.

THE SLOPE OF THE DITCH TO WHERE IT'S PLUGGED IN IS THAT'S FILLED OUT IN THE PERMIT.

I MEAN, HOW FAR BACK DOES THIS GO TO POINT A FINGER AT THE FENCE CAN GO ON TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

OKAY. SO THEY WANT ALL THEIR YARD HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL THEM NOT TO MOVE YOUR FENCE UP 4FT OR 5FT AND GIVE UP THAT MUCH YARD. ARE YOU ON THE EVANS SIDE? YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OKAY.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY GET WITH THE HOA.

BACK WHEN ALL THIS GOT STARTED. YOU CAN'T BUILD ON THAT.

YOU CAN'T PUT A FENCE ON THE EASEMENT. RIGHT.

IT'S NOT ON EASEMENT. THE DITCH IS AN EASEMENT.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT. THE CITY DOESN'T OWN AN EASEMENT.

RIGHT. EASEMENT JUST GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO UTILIZE IT.

OKAY? IT'S NOT LIKE A RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT WHERE THE CITY CAN SAY YOU CAN'T BUILD IT, BUT THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO COME IN THERE AND DO ANYTHING THAT EASEMENT, INCLUDING REMOVING THE FENCE IF THEY NEED TO ACCESS IT FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES TO TO ALLEVIATE THESE ISSUES.

IN MOST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT THAT I HAD SEEN COME UP, THEY WOULD DRAIN THE REARS TO TOWARD THE FRONT SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THESE KINDS OF ISSUES. SO THIS WAS A TO ME, THIS WAS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM FROM THE GET GO.

WHEN THEY DIDN'T HORSESHOE THE REAR, THE YARD BACK TO THE FRONT TO DRAIN TOWARDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY CREATED FOR DRAINAGE IN THE SUBDIVISION TO BEGIN WITH.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN THOSE HOUSES ON EVANS. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD PROBABLY FIX IT WOULD BE CULVERTS.

YEAH, IT'S PRETTY FLAT ON EVANS. THAT SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE OLDER SYSTEMS THAT HAS ZERO DRAINAGE.

RIGHT. IT'S JUST A CONCRETE STREET WITH NO NO DRAINS.

SO THAT. SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE LEARN FROM. NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T, BUT ANY DEVELOPERS. FROM NOW ON WE NEED TO BE INCLUDING CULVERTS AND DRAIN BOXES AND IT HAS TO BE DONE ON THEIR DIME. I MEAN, IT'S JUST PART OF THE NEGOTIATION ANYMORE. ALL WE'RE DOING IS BUILDING MORE AND MORE, I'M GOING TO SAY DENSER, BUT, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY DENSER, FILLING IN THE INFILL.

LOTS LESS PLACE FOR WATER TO, TO TO POOL. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY NEW DEVELOPERS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WHEN I'M LEFT HERE ON COUNCIL. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN Y'ALL GET SOME NEW PEOPLE UP HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISIONS, PLEASE REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR BUILDING CODES, BUT IF WE HAVEN'T, WE NEED TO STRONGLY LOOK AT BEING A REQUIREMENT.

IT'S NOT A TO ME. IT'S NOT NEGOTIABLE ANYMORE.

I THINK WE PERHAPS PREVIOUS COUNCILS WERE SO EXCITED TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT THEY JUST BYPASSED SOME RESPONSIBLE DRAINAGE.

OH THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY THE TRUTH. YES.

WE'LL DEFINITELY GET WITH HOA AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD WAY TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE BACK FENCES AND THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON ITEM SIX.

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[7. Annual update and discussion on the Greystone subdivision development. ]

MY NAME IS KAYLEE GUIDRY. I WORK FOR ADAMS HOMES AND THE BUILDER SUPERINTENDENT IN THE GRAY STONE SUBDIVISION.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, OF THE 111 LOTS THAT WE HAVE, 74 OF THEM HAVE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.

SO WE ARE EXACTLY AT TWO TWO THIRDS COMPLETE.

WE HAVE 35 EMPTY. WE'RE SORRY. HAVE PLANS TO MAINTAIN OUR BUILD SCHEDULE FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH IS THE FOUR HOUSES BEING RELEASED A MONTH. RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE SLOWER.

JUST TO KIND OF MATCH THE MARKET. BUT WE ARE HOPING TO IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS RAMP BACK UP TO THE FOUR HOUSES.

ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, YEAH.

SO I WAS TOLD BY SOME SOME RESIDENTS OVER THERE THAT THEY WERE A LITTLE FRUSTRATED.

AND I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE OR POSITION ON IT IS THAT THE ORIGINAL HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT BY NON ADAMS HOMES AND NOW BEING BUILT THERE ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY WERE TOLD WAS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE.

ARE THEY BEING BUILT SMALLER? THE HOMES? THE NEWER ONES.

SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO PLANS THAT RECENTLY GOT ADDED, WE'VE USED THE SAME FIVE PLANS.

OKAY. A LOT OF OUR PLANS WERE ALTERED TO MATCH THE STYLE OF THE OTHER HOMES THAT WERE THERE.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE NEGOTIATIONS LOOKED LIKE.

I WAS NOT A PART OF THEM. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE STYLE THAT WE ARE BUILDING WAS SPECIFICALLY TAILORED TO FIT THE GREYSTONE SUBDIVISION.

OKAY. AND YOUR TWO THIRDS. DO YOU HAVE AN HOA YET? IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER APLAN. STILL. OKAY. COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. GO AHEAD. AND THE GATE. ARE Y'ALL.

IS IT 80% 80%, RIGHT.

IT'S 50% OF THE HOMES CODE WHICH THEY'RE PAST THAT PROBABLY 60, 66, 60. I SAID 65. OKAY, 66%. AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH SOUTH REMINGTON, NORTH REMINGTON RIMFIRE, LETTING THEM KNOW, OKAY.

AND HAVE IT TRY TO HAVE IT REMOVED BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.

SO A MONTH OKAY. ON THAT BACK STREET. GIVE PEOPLE TIME.

LET THEM KNOW WE'LL HAVE MARTHA PUT SOME STUFF OUT AFTER WE GO, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW.

THEN WE'LL KEEP PUTTING STUFF OUT. SO AND THEN SO END OF FEBRUARY, ARE THERE ANY HOMES BUILT YET AT THAT LITTLE INTERSECTION WHERE THAT CONNECTION IS. THERE'S ONE.

YEAH, THERE'S ONE IN THE BACK RIGHT THERE. OKAY, WELL, THEY OWN ALL THE LOTS.

THE ONE KIND OF BACK THERE IN THE BACK 77. SO.

YEAH. SO THEY'RE GETTING THAT DIRECTION. WHAT IS THIS SPACE AGAIN? I REFRESH MY MEMORY. WHAT WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A PARK. AND I THINK HE CHANGED HIS MIND.

ISN'T IT JUST THERE'S DRAINAGE GOING AROUND HERE, BUT THERE'S THAT ALMOST ALL THE WAY BACK.

BUT IT'S PART OF THE DRAINAGE DETENTION, AND IT GOES BACK TO THE POND.

WHAT DOES IT SAY? IT'S A PARK RESERVE. PARK RESERVE? BUT WHO'S MAINTAINING IT? IT'S HOA, BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED.

AND IT'S NOT BEING MOWED REGULARLY. IT'S IT WAS PRETTY OVERGROWN THERE FOR A WHILE IN THE SUMMER.

THEY GOT. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S SO MISS GUIDRY. JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING MAINTAINED THROUGH HERE, THAT SOMEBODY'S GOT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

I GUESS ADAMS IS THE CURRENT HOA. SO THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB ON THAT BETWEEN SOUTH REMINGTON BACKYARD.

YES, I SAW THAT. YEAH. WELL, BUT YEAH, WE'LL STAY ON THAT.

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WHAT IS YOUR AVERAGE DAYS? FROM BUILD TO SELL? MINE ARE RIGHT AROUND 90 TO 100 DAYS FROM A FRAME.

MATERIALS DROPPING TO COMPLETION. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, SINCE IT'S UP THERE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON.

BUT ONE DAY SHOULD AT LEAST BE QUESTIONED OR CONSIDERED.

PERHAPS. CONNECTING TO MULLENDORE DRIVE. BUT I SAID THAT BEFORE.

BACK WHEN IT WAS UNDER APPROVED THESE MAPS. WELL, IT'S FUNNY THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

WE GO TO GREYSTONE RIGHT AFTER KHYBER. THE EXACT PROBLEM THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT WITH KHYBER AND EVANS IS THE SAME PROBLEM THAT IS BEHIND REMINGTON AND NOW GREYSTONE. BETWEEN MOLINA AND THESE GUYS IS THAT DITCH THAT RUNS BACK HERE THAT IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET TO.

IT'S NOT MAINTAINED VERY OFTEN. AND WHEN YOU DO IT'S A IT'S A FULL ON EXECUTION OF OF A LOT OF STAFF TRYING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS IN A SMALL LITTLE AREA. AND RESIDENTS GET VERY UPSET.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THAT ONE BACK THERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT AT LEAST I WAS BRAND NEW.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THIS AREA BEING MAINTAINED SO IT DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE TO THE THE BACKUP OF THE DRAINAGE. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE SKIPPING EIGHT ITEM NUMBER NINE UPDATE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE KING MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS CENTER PROJECT BY ZACHARY MOTION WITH CONSTRUCTION.

[9. Update, discussion and possible action on the King Municipal Operations Center Project by Zachery Moquin with TEAL Construction. ]

THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE KING MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS CENTER WAS ASKED TO COME HERE AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON CURRENT PROGRESS.

A NICE LITTLE EYE CANDY FOR YOU UP HERE AS WELL.

SO IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS SINCE WE DID OUR LAST UPDATE, SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF CHANGES FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST TIME.

DO I HAVE THE CLICKER HERE OR. OKAY. GOING BACK AS OUR THE LAST UPDATE WAS PRE NOVEMBER BEEN TRANSCRIBED ONE MOMENT WHILE I NOTIFIED BACK IN NOVEMBER WE RECEIVED OUR STEEL.

I KNOW OUR THREE WEEK AHEAD. BACK THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT GOT MOST OF IT ERECTED DURING THAT MONTH AS WELL.

TIDING UTILITIES STARTED TO HANG INSULATION BY THE END OF THAT MONTH.

SO ALSO INSTALLED ROOF PANELS THAT SAME MONTH TOO.

IT WAS A BIG MONTH FOR US GOING VERTICAL THERE.

NEXT PAGE PLEASE. DECEMBER. CONTINUING UP SOME OF THE STRUCTURE.

MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. WALL PANELS. INSULATION.

WATERPROOFING OPENINGS. ROUGHING. IT STARTED WHAT WE COULD AFTER GETTING THAT THE ROOF INSTALLED.

LIKE RUNNING DUCTWORK AND PLUMBING. THEN BEGAN THE OVERHEAD DOORS TO.

SO OVERHEAD DOORS ARE IN NOW. MOST OF THE WALL PANELS WENT UP IN DECEMBER.

A LOT OF THE INSULATION WENT UP IN DECEMBER. MADE AS MUCH AS WE COULD OF THE DRY DAYS.

WE HAD STARTED FRAMING INTERIOR WALLS AS WELL.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE DRIED IN FOR. WE'VE BEEN PUSHING TO GET DONE.

NEXT PAGE PLEASE. ANOTHER PHOTO FROM DECEMBER.

THIS IS INSIDE. YOU CAN SEE STARTED THE INTERIOR FRAMING.

CONTINUING THE MEP ROOFING, LIKE I SAID TO NEXT PAGE PLEASE.

THIS MONTH STARTED A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE AGAIN AND SOME OF THE DRY WEATHER.

DRIER WEATHER. WORKING ON SIDEWALKS AND GENERATOR PAD.

HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF OUR PAVING DOWN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DELAYED.

GET US OUT OF THE MUD. GRADING AND STABILIZING THE SITES COMING UP HERE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AS WELL.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN START THAT HERE LATER THIS WEEK.

AND THEN LIME STABILIZATION, CONTINUING ALL THE MEP RUFFIN THAT WE STARTED BACK IN DECEMBER AND THEN WORKING ON TRIMMING OUT THE EXTERIOR PANELS, GETTING ANY MISCELLANEOUS EXTERIOR FRAMING.

PREPARING FOR THAT. AND THEN CURRENTLY OUR STOREFRONT SYSTEMS ARE IN FABRICATION RIGHT NOW.

SO WITHIN TWO WEEKS AS WELL, WE SHOULD BE PUTTING IN STOREFRONT FRAMING AND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS BE MOSTLY DRIED IN ALL.

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A COUPLE OTHER PHOTOS OF OUR CURRENT PROGRESS FROM A WEEK OR SO AGO.

POST POUR FOR THE GENERATOR PAD AND THE SOUTH SIDE SIDEWALK THAT WILL TIE INTO THE WEST SIDE PAVING.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE GUYS OVER THERE WORKING ON SOME SOFFIT PANELS AND TRIM.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR PHOTOS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED FINISH THIS SUMMER? END OF JUNE.

END OF JUNE. DO YOU THINK YOU'RE AHEAD OF THAT? WE BELIEVE WE'RE AHEAD OF THAT. YES. IT'S OKAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT. YES, THAT'S THAT'S CONTRACTUAL, BUT WE BELIEVE WE'RE AHEAD OF IT RIGHT NOW.

GOOD. HOW'S THE BUDGET LOOKING? WE ARE UNDER BUDGET.

THAT'S HOW I LIKE TO HEAR MUSIC TO OUR EARS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT LOOKS GREAT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THERE. IT REALLY LOOKS GOOD.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT AND LOTS OF WORK GOING ON IT.

IT REALLY, I MEAN, FOR THE CITY YOU STARTED. WAS IT OCTOBER? WAS IT SEPTEMBER? IT WAS MID-JULY WHEN WE STARTED DOING SOME SITE WORK, PUTTING UP OUR FENCE.

WE DIDN'T REALLY START GETTING, GETTING GOING WITH REAL SPEED UNTIL PROBABLY ABOUT THIS SEPTEMBER OCTOBER TIME PERIOD.

I REMEMBER IT HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG. YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DAYS, SO YOU'RE RIGHT IT.

BUT I NOTICED THE OTHER DAY I LOOKED AT IT AND I THOUGHT, THIS FOOTPRINT IS ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WAS THERE.

IT'S JUST I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE WE HAD THIS GRAND IDEA WE WERE GOING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THREE STORY BUILDING AND DO THIS CHANGES. AND AND THEN WHAT'S BEING BUILT IS BASICALLY ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME FOOTPRINT, THE SAME SPOT. DO YOU HAVE MORE BASS THAN THE OLD ONE? WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW LESS BAYS, BUT IT WASN'T.

IT WASN'T NECESSARY FOR US TO HAVE THAT MANY.

OKAY, INTERESTING. SPEAKING OF THE BAYS, DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE TILL JUNE OR, LET'S SAY, MAY? DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL THAT TIME TO START USING THE BAYS? OR IS THAT IS THERE SOME TYPE OF TIMETABLE WHERE THE BACK WILL BE FINISHED FIRST AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY MOVE YOUR STUFF IN THERE, OR ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYTHING'S DONE BEFORE YOU MOVE? WE'RE PROBABLY JUST GOING TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYTHING'S DONE. OKAY.

WE DON'T GET IN THEIR WAY AT ALL. OKAY. JUST ASKING.

I WILL SAY THAT'S USUALLY NOT IMPOSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WITH BUILDINGS THAT ARE SEPARATE LIKE THAT.

THE ONE CONCERN WITH THIS WOULD BE, USUALLY WE WAIT UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE TO PUT DOWN THE ASPHALT, WHICH IS AROUND THAT BACK BUILDING SO IT DOESN'T GET TORN UP.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THING IF NEEDED. AND THEN ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE AND THE FIRE MARSHAL TO MAKE SURE THAT TO GET A SEPARATE OCCUPANCY PERMIT FOR THAT BUILDING. OKAY, GREAT. NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BRANT. ITEM NUMBER TEN UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON WILD SCAPES AT LAKESIDE PARK.

[10. Update and discussion on Wildscapes at Lakeside Park. ]

SO, AS YOU RECALL WE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE YOU LAST JANUARY TO PROPOSE AN IDEA TO KIND OF BRING BACK WHAT THE ENVISION FOR LAKESIDE WAS, WAS BEING MORE OF A NATURAL PARK.

SO AT THAT TIME, WE REQUESTED SEVEN DIFFERENT AREAS TO CEASE MOWING IN THOSE SPACE TO RETURN THEM TO THEIR NATURAL STATE.

SO THOSE WOULD BE WILD SCAPES. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DID FOLLOW WAS WITHIN SECTION ONE, RIGHT AT THAT POINT OF THE ENTRANCE, IF YOU WILL.

RIGHT UP HERE, WE DIVIDED THAT. SO TECHNICALLY, IF YOU WILL, THERE'S KIND OF EIGHT SPOTS, BUT THIS WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO BE SECTION ONE. WE DID CREATE A PATHWAY SO YOU CAN STILL SEE VISIBLY INTO THE PARK.

TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT. BUT WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING ON THAT.

I DO HAVE DAVID HERE WITH OUR HE IS INSTRUMENTAL AS VOLUNTEERING TO SUPPORT THIS.

HE ALSO SERVES AS OUR CHAIR FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

THIS IS ONE OF IF YOU WILL, HIS PET PROJECTS THAT HE'S REALLY BEEN DEDICATING INTO.

SO I'LL GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE AS WELL. BUT HE'S MADE SOME SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN THIS.

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SO THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE DIED OFF.

BUT HE WAS ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND START SOME INVASIVE SPECIES MITIGATION.

START TO PULL THINGS OUT TRYING TO CURB WHAT IS BEING CURRENTLY GROWN IN THERE.

IT IS. TIME INTENSIVE, SO IT DOES TAKE TIME TO GO THROUGH.

HE HAS ALSO BEEN ABLE TO START TO PLANT. NEW WILDLIFE OR NEW NATIVE PLANTS IN THERE.

SO ABOUT 13 NEW SPECIES OF PLANTS HAVE BEEN PLANTED THROUGHOUT THE SEVEN DIFFERENT WILD SCAPES.

THOSE INCLUDE DIFFERENT THINGS FOR WILDFLOWERS.

WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT TREES WE'RE TRYING TO PLANT IN THERE FROM LIVE OAK, PECAN, GREEN ASH ROUGHLEAF.

DOGWOOD, JUST TO NAME A FEW. SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO MITIGATION WITH THAT, THAT TO NOT ONLY TAKE OUT THE INVASIVE SPECIES, BUT TRYING TO REINVIGORATE WHAT IS NATIVE TO THE LANDSCAPE FOR THIS PARK.

SO IT IS, AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED IN THE FIRST PROPOSAL, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME.

AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FUNDING DEDICATED TO THIS.

SO DAVID IS MOSTLY DOING IT AS A VOLUNTEER. AND THEN WE HELP TO DO SOME OF THE TREATMENT PORTION OF IT.

WE DID RUN TO A HICCUP IN THE VERY BEGINNING THAT DID DELAY IT WHEN WE PUSHED THIS OUT.

STAFF DID THEIR TYPICAL AS THEY GO OUT AND MOW AND THEY MOLD OVER EVERYTHING.

SO IT KIND OF HAD TO RESTART THAT. BUT WE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST A GOOD 6 TO 9 MONTHS INTO IT AS FAR AS THE GROWING OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT BACK.

JUST AS A REMINDER. SO WE DO HAVE THIS SECTION HERE AS ABOUT ONE RIGHT BY THE POND WOULD BE TWO THE KIND OF PENINSULA RIGHT HERE IS THREE.

YOU HAVE A SECTION OVER HERE IS FOUR. YOU GOT FIVE DOWN HERE.

SIX. AND THAT'S SEVEN. SO THOSE ARE ALL RETURNED TO THE UNITED STATES, I CAN SAY, SINCE WE HAVE DONE THAT, MOVED TO THAT COMPONENT WE HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON IT THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED DIRECTLY TO US, BUT HAPPY TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THAT.

AND SEE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I GET COMPLAINTS IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS SECTION DOWN AND THEN CLOSE FROM BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE BACK OF THESE HOUSES.

WHAT'S THE COMPLAINT? THAT IT'S. IT'S NOT BEING.

IF IT'S NOT BEING MAINTAINED, IT'S TOO WILD. THERE'S CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT SAY THAT WALKING THE TRAIL IS DANGEROUS TO THEM.

THEY SAY IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE. AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

AND YOU'RE. YEAH. AND THEY STILL MAINTAIN A MOWED.

I BELIEVE IT'S AT LEAST ABOUT A TEN FOOT SECTION RIGHT TO CREATE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY ACTUALLY IF YOU NOT THIS SECTION HERE, BUT UP AT THE TOP THERE IS A WILDFLOWER SECTION RIGHT AROUND HERE THAT THAT WAS A COMMENT ON AS WELL.

AS THE WILDFLOWERS ARE DYING OFF, THOSE WOULD DROOP OVER THE PATHWAY.

SO WE ACTUALLY DID GO BACK AND START TO MAINTAIN MORE OF A BUFFER TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF DISTANCE.

SO THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. SO THEY DO MAINTAIN IT TO THAT CAPACITY.

BUT THAT WAS A GOOD COMMENT WAS NOT ONE WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR.

SO. AND THEN IF YOU GO BACK DOWN TO THE SOUTH, THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THEY WERE SAYING THAT THIS AREA WAS UNMAINTAINED AND WAS ENCROACHING IN OTHER AREAS.

SO IT WAS ENCROACHING MORE CLOSER TO THEIR PROPERTY.

OKAY. WELL, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF CREATE A SIMILAR BUFFER BUFFER ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

YEAH. MOW THE PERIMETER. YEP. CALL IT GOOD.

JASON, REAL QUICK IS THERE SOME ADDITIONAL TREES PLANTED AS PART OF OUR GREEN OR EARTH DAY? YEAH. SO THEY HAVE DONE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL TREES.

DAVID IS ALSO A GODSEND IN THOSE. HE TYPICALLY IS STAKING THEM UP AS HE'S GOING TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE VIABLE.

SO HE'LL GO THROUGH AND CHANGE THOSE AROUND AS NEEDED TO HELP ENSURE THOSE.

BUT THERE WERE. SO THEY WENT IN THIS FALL, THOUGH? YES. YEP. STAFF WERE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL ONES THERE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

I WANT TO SAY WE ADDED THEM DOWN ON THE BACKSIDE HERE BECAUSE WHEN WE DID, THE PLANNING ABOUT A YEAR AGO AT THE LOCATION WAS VERY SPARSE.

AND SO WE ALSO LOST A FEW OF THOSE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY ENHANCE THAT BUFFER THERE AS WELL.

SO. I'M SURE PEOPLE WHO WILL EVENTUALLY USE THE TRAILS WILL ENJOY THE SHADE.

YEAH. WELL, AND UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU ALL RECALL, DURING THE STORMS WE DID LOSE TO THE THE BEST TREES IN THAT PARK ON THE BACKSIDE.

SO THOSE GET DID GET KNOCKED DOWN BY THE WIND.

SO WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE NATURAL TREES THAT WERE THERE PREVIOUSLY.

HAPPENS. LET DAVID KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS WELL ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE SPECIFICALLY HAS DONE.

SO AS JASON SAID, WE REMOVED SOME OF THE EXOTIC VEGETATION IN THERE, SOME WITH CHEMICALS, SOME JUST MECHANICALLY. WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF SEEDS.

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FORTUNATELY, THE FIRST PART OF THIS WINTER HAS NOT BEEN VERY GOOD FOR SEED PROPAGATION. IT'S BEEN WARM AND DRY. WE NEED COLD AND WET, YOU KNOW. FORTUNATELY, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THIS WEEK. NO TELLING HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT.

WE'LL JUST TIME WILL TELL ON THAT. WE'LL KEEP KEEP TRYING THAT.

LIKE WE SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE A SLOW PROCESS, AS WE MENTIONED WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS LAST YEAR.

AND AS JASON JUST SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE A SLOW PROCESS.

WE APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S GOING TO LOOK WORSE BEFORE IT LOOKS BETTER, BUT EVENTUALLY IT'LL GET THERE. I THINK HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN BIRD DIVERSITY AND INSECT DIVERSITY AND SMALL MAMMALS, SMALL ANIMALS THERE AND MAKE IT, LIKE JASON SAID, A LITTLE MORE OF A NATURAL PARK.

LIKE IT WAS LIKE THE ORIGINAL SCOPE. IT SAID, THANK YOU.

BOY SCOUTS, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE THE FORESTRY MERIT BADGE? NOBODY RAISES THEIR HAND.

I'LL EXPECT THAT. I'VE GOT AN IDEA FOR YOU. I THINK YOUR SCOUTMASTER WILL GIVE YOU CREDIT IF YOU DO IT. JUST SO YOU KNOW. I THINK I CAN PULL THAT CARD.

IF YOU NEED THEIR HELP. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. OKAY, I WILL.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU DAVE. I WILL JUST MENTION BRIEFLY BECAUSE THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ONLINE ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE HAVE RECEIVED IS WAS ACTUALLY IN REFERENCE TO DAVID, PEOPLE OF THE COMMENT OF WONDERING WHO IS OUT THERE.

BECAUSE HE'S VOLUNTEERING IS NOT IN CITY APPAREL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO PEOPLE WOULD ASK, LIKE WHAT? THERE'S A RANDOM GUY OUT THERE DOING TO ALL THE TREES AND PLANTS AND WHY IS HE OUT THERE? SO JUST WANT TO MAKE MENTION THAT THAT'S DAVID TYPICALLY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CORRECT THAT. WE CAN PROBABLY HELP THEM FIND SOME SHIRT.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THAT WAS THE MAIN ONE PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED OF, LIKE WHY THERE WAS A GUY OUT THERE. IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS LIKE DAMAGING TREES. AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S NOT. YEAH. SO GOOD. ANYTHING. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AT NUMBER 11, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CONSTRUCTION BIDS RECEIVED FOR BID.

[11. Discussion and possible action regarding construction bids received for Bid No. 2026-01 Abigail Arias Park Construction.]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU.

SO BEFORE YOU WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE BITS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR AREAS PARK.

WE DID RECEIVE TWO BIDS. ONE OF THEM FROM MILLIS DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN A WALKER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE TWO THAT RECEIVED.

YOU'LL SEE SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR PACKETS, THE SCORING CRITERIA THAT WENT THROUGH THAT SHOWED THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS PARK.

HOWEVER, WE RAN INTO A COUPLE UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES REGARDING THE BIDS THAT WERE PRESENTED.

SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT I PASSED BEFORE YOU WAS THE BID EVALUATION BREAKDOWN.

REGARDING MILLS'S BID BEING THE FIRST ONE WHEN WE RECEIVED THOSE BID, THEIRS WAS EXTREMELY OVER BUDGET.

SO CONCERNS THAT CAME WITH THAT ONE WAS AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S ABOUT $3 MILLION DEDICATED TO THAT PROJECT.

A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY IN DEVELOPMENT. THEIR PROJECT BID CAME IN A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT I'M GOING TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE PAGE TWO FOR YOU ON THE DOCUMENT I PRESENTED TO YOU RIGHT AT THE TOP.

THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE BASE BID FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THEIR BASE BID WAS ABOUT $2.7 MILLION. NOW, KEEP IN MIND WITH THAT ONE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PLAYGROUND, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SPLASH PAD IS THE TWO MAIN COMPONENTS.

SO IT'S EXTREMELY OVER BUDGET. JUST IN THAT REGARDS, IF YOU WERE TO GO FURTHER DOWN THEIR FULL BID PACKAGE TO DO EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE ADD ALTERNATIVES, WHICH WE KNEW COULD BE A HICCUP IF THE CONTRACTOR WAS TO DO THAT WAS 4.2.

SO CONCERNS DEFINITELY ON THAT ONE. AGAIN, THEY MET ALL THE OTHER CRITERIA, THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE OTHER RELATED PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, THEIR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THEIR THERE WAS A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT, JUST NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AT THIS TIME.

THE SECOND ONE IS SEA WALKER. SO THAT ONE WE DID AS WELL.

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ONE OF THE ONES I'LL SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT FOR Y'ALL IS IF YOU LOOK ON THAT FIRST PAGE UNDER THE ITEM NUMBER TWO GRADING THE PRICING DID NOT ALIGN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED FOR THAT PROJECT, WHICH BROUGHT UP MAJOR CONCERNS.

THE OTHER CONCERN ON THAT ONE WAS BECAUSE IT WASN'T BROKEN DOWN.

WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE WHY A GRADED OR WHY THAT PRICE WAS SO HIGH IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FACT OF THAT SECTION THERE.

ALL THE OTHER AREAS FELL IN LINE FELL IN LINE WITH WHAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE FOR WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THE SCOPE WOULD BE WOULD GIVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH THAT SPECIFIC AREA DID NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, AND THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE.

I CAN TELL YOU HAVE HAD ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH LEGAL ON THIS PROJECT TO JUST UNDERSTAND FULL SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO. I CAN TELL YOU CA WALKER SHOULD BE ON THE LINE IF YOU ALL HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY CANNOT CHANGE THEIR BID. SO IF THEY BID INCORRECTLY OR THEY PUT A LINE ITEM HIGHER THAN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, THEY CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE THEY OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED THE BID.

SO WE CAN ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. BUT IF THEY, YOU KNOW, INADVERTENTLY WROTE THE WRONG NUMBER, THEY CANNOT CHANGE THAT BECAUSE IT IS AN OFFICIAL SEALED BID.

SO AT THIS TIME, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL'S DISCRETION ON DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE FOR US OF HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REJECT THIS BID THE BIDS TO GO BACK OUT.

I WILL SAY IF WE DO THAT, IT DOES PUSH BACK THE TIMELINE AND WE MOST LIKELY ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT FOUR WEEKS.

THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPOST.

POSTING IS A TWO WEEK BID TIME SO THAT I BELIEVE, IF I RECALL, WOULD PUT US AT ABOUT THE 18TH TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL BIDS BACK FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. SO IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING ABOUT A FOUR WEEK POSITIVE OUTLOOK TO MAYBE LOOK AT IT.

SEE, WALKER DID HAVE A VERY FAVORABLE TIMELINE.

SO THEIR TIMELINE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT WAS ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

AS FAR AS THE COMPLETION THE OTHER VARIANTS, I WILL SAY FOR MILLIS, THEIRS WAS ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.

SO IT'S KIND OF SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. SO JUST KIND OF UP TO YOU ALL FOR QUESTIONS.

LIKE I SAID, SEEING WALKER IS ON THE LINE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM. AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

BEFORE WE GO OVER TO SEE WALKER, THESE COST ESTIMATES ARE NOWHERE CLOSE.

IN SOME CASES, TO WHAT CAME BACK. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST.

IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. WHAT HAPPENED? CAN IS LIKE FROM BOTH PROJECTS OR BOTH BIDS.

YES. I CAN TELL YOU. SO LOOKING BACK ON IT, MELISSA WAS ACTUALLY ONE THAT BID ON LAKESIDE.

AND I THINK LAKESIDE ALSO, THEY HAD A HIGH BID FOR LAKESIDE.

SO I THINK THEY MIGHT BE A CONTRACTOR TYPICALLY, MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AND IF YOU RECALL FROM KIND OF THE OPINION OF PROBABLE COST THAT BURDETT PROVIDED, THERE WAS A RANGE OF THE LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT.

AND THE HARD THING THAT WE HAVE IS WHEN WE GOT THE TWO BIDS.

SO IT DOESN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT OF VARIATION.

WE HAD THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE MORE THAT WOULD HAVE BID. THERE WAS ONES THAT HAD SHOWED INTEREST IN IT.

THEY JUST DIDN'T TURN IN BIDS. SO THIS WAS MY CONCERN WHEN WE DID THIS AT THE END OF DECEMBER, THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON VACATION AND NOT THINKING ABOUT BIDDING.

I MEAN, THE SITE LIGHTING COST ESTIMATE 68,000, AND BOTH OF THEM CAME AT 309 AND 250.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE THE PAVILION'S WAY OUT OF WHACK AS WELL.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST EVERYTHING SEEMS ALL OVER THE PLACE BETWEEN THE COST ESTIMATES AND WHAT CAME IN.

CLARIFICATION, I BELIEVE. AND CLAUDIA IS HERE AS WELL FOR THE SITE LIGHTING.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE THAT CHANGED AS WE GOT TOWARDS THE END.

THEY BASED ON THEIR ESTIMATES FOR THE UPDATES.

AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAD TO BE MADE TO THAT PROJECT AS FAR AS ELECTRICAL GOES FOR SPLASH PAD COMPONENTS AND TIE INTO ELECTRICAL SERVICES FROM TMP THAT COST IS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE. SO WHAT THEY BID IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, ONE OF THOSE WAS KIND OF THE TIE IN FOR CONTINGENCY, KNOWING THAT THERE MIGHT BE FLUCTUATION THAT PRETTY MUCH CONSUMED ALL OF IT.

SO THAT WAS JUST ONE LINE, THOUGH. IT IS. COUNCIL.

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I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AND MENTION AS WELL. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS DOES HAVE A GRANT ATTACHED TO IT.

SO THE OTHER CONCERN THAT COMES FROM IT IS THE BUDGET WE'VE HAD AND WE'VE HAD TO SHRINK THE PROJECT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH.

WE KNOW WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS SLATED AT ABOUT 4.5 MILLION.

WE HAVE THAT THAT GRANT THAT IS TIED TO IT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MEET A THRESHOLD FOR THAT GRANT.

SO IT IS A 50% MATCH. SO IT DOES MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TRICKY.

AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE, WE HAVE TO MEET THAT STANDARD, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T MEET THE THRESHOLD OF THE GRANT, WE ACTUALLY DON'T GET THAT FULL MATCH BACK. SO BEING THAT IT WAS A $750,000 MATCH, WE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE AS WELL.

SO IF THOSE ITEMS DON'T LINE UP TO WHERE IF YOU WERE TO TRY TO SHRINK DOWN THE PLAYGROUND ANYMORE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT BENEFIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO MEET THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS. SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF IT.

SO. WE DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE CHECK THOSE BOXES.

AND SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM IF Y'ALL WILL HELP US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT.

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SEEKING PRIVATE FUNDING. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT ASPECT? SO WE'VE HAD A WERE ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH ABIGAIL ARIAS FAMILY AND GET THEIR GO AHEAD ON SOME OF THE RENDERINGS FOR THE MEMORIAL PIECE.

WE WERE HOPEFUL TO HAVE THAT, BUT WE RAN INTO SOME DELAYS WITH THAT COLLABORATION WITH THEM AND THE FUNDING COMPONENT, HOW THEY WOULD RECEIVE IT. THEY HAVE HAD SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE LEERY OF, OF THEIR CURRENT FUNDING RECEIPT FOR THEIR PROCESSOR AT THE TIME.

SO OUR GOAL, MARTHA AND I ARE WORKING ON THAT DILIGENTLY TO HAVE THAT TO ROLL OUT IN FEBRUARY, THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY ROLL OUT THE DONATION CAMPAIGN TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT WITH THAT.

SO. OKAY. SO WHAT'S. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE GAME PLAN ON THAT.

BECAUSE WHAT WHY WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'LL HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND.

SO I'M TRYING TO JUST UNDERSTAND THE GAME PLAN OF WHY WE'RE DELAYING THAT COMPONENT.

SO PART OF THAT WAS THE COLLABORATION WITH ABIGAIL'S REACH THAT THEY WOULD HELP SUPPORT THAT DONATION CAMPAIGN, THAT IT WOULD BE IT'S IT'S A KIND OF A MERGE BETWEEN NAMING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE PARK AND A DONOR CAMPAIGN.

HAVING. ABIGAIL'S REACH COME IN. GIVES US A MORE REACH, IF YOU WILL WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS BEING THE CITY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, MORE DIFFICULT TO JUST RECEIVE DONATIONS.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT OF THAT, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A BUY IN FROM ABIGAIL'S FAMILY, THAT THAT WOULD TIE IN. WELL WE HAD A WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT WE'RE GOING TO ROLL OUT WITH THAT THAT TELLS THE STORY AND REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THAT.

SO THERE WAS MULTIPLE COMPONENTS THAT CAME IN PLAY FOR THAT.

BUT HAVING THEIR BUY IN, KNOWING THAT IT WAS DEDICATED TO THEIR DAUGHTER WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.

BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S STOPPING US FROM GETTING AN ADVERTISEMENT CAMPAIGN GOING? THE LAST PIECE OF IT WAS MAKING SURE WE HAD THE CAMPAIGN, THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE ON HOW THAT FUNDING COMPONENT WOULD WORK, BECAUSE WITH THEIR SUPPORT AND THEIR TIE IN, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE HOW IT TIES BACK TO THE CITY.

SO. ARE YOU WAITING ON LEGAL? NO. WE THE BIGGEST ONE WAS THE CONVERSATION, I WILL SAY, IS WHEN WE HAD WITH THEIR WITH THEIR FAMILY WAS HOW IT WAS GOING TO WORK WITH THE FOUNDATION.

YEAH, THE LEGAL ONES, THAT ONE, THAT HURDLE WAS WE HAD TO GET OVER THEIRS OR GET WITH THEM FIRST TO FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

THE LEGAL SIDE WILL BE PRETTY EASY BECAUSE IT WILL BE PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING OURSELVES AGAINST THE WALL.

IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME, IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN IT, THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO START THE ADVERTISING PROCESS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT DETAILS ARE TO COME. OKAY. I MEAN, INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR.

SO TO TRY TO BUILD UP INTEREST AND INTEREST. INSTEAD, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYTHING IS NEATLY TIED UP.

AND WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO FUND THIS PARK AT THE SAME TIME.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO PRESENT ISSUES ON THE BACK END OF TRYING TO COORDINATE POTENTIAL ADDITIONS OF. FEATURES TO THE PARK, AS WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO LOCK DOWN A CONTRACT WITH A BUILDER.

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AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I MEAN, WE CAN MOVE TO MAKE IT BRING SOMETHING TO Y'ALL TO ROLL OUT FOR THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE BUILDING IT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE IF IT'S NOW.

I THINK IF YOU GET THAT OUT THERE. OBVIOUSLY THIS OPINION Y'ALL CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT WE CAN WE CAN BUILD UP SOME INTEREST. SO THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE DETAILS YOU CAN COME WITH WITH THE DETAILS.

THAT'S SPONSORSHIP SPOTS AVAILABLE FOR THE PARK CONTRIBUTIONS.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW. OKAY. NO MORE COMPLICATED.

I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT ALL BIDS. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

SECOND, BY COUNCILMAN SMITH TO REJECT THE BIDS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? THE C MILLS AND K WALKER.

I SUGGEST DO SOME EXTRA HOMEWORK ON THIS AND GET THOSE BIDS SUBMITTED.

YEAH. I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE GOING BACK OUT TO BID HOW IT LOOKS.

ONE THING I'D ALSO ADD MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND MENTIONS IT'S NOT JUST THIS PARK.

I MEAN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A PARK SPONSORSHIP THAT WE CAN ROLL OUT FOR FREEDOM PARK, FOR THE NEW BASEBALL FIELD, FOR ANY NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT ANY LIKE, MASTER CENTERS.

I MEAN, WE CAN WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, AND WE COULD GET SPONSORSHIPS TO REALLY HELP US.

SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. I MEAN, EVEN THE SOCCER FIELDS COULD GET A SPONSORSHIP OF SOME SORT TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOME OF THAT DRAINAGE WORK. MAYBE WE CAN START RAISING MONEY THROUGH PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.

OKAY. MY ONLY THOUGHT IS I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS BACK IN FOUR WEEKS.

SO AT THE END OF OUR 2ND FEBRUARY MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING, WE'VE GOT TO PUSH AHEAD.

YEAH. THAT SHOULD NOT. WE WILL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THE REALLY THE BIGGEST PIECE IS THE POSTING. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT POSTED BY NEXT WEEK AT THE LATEST.

IT'S JUST A COUPLE DAY TURNAROUND TO GET IT THE PUBLICATION PUT OUT.

AGAIN, OUR REQUIREMENT OF TWO WEEKS PUT JUST SHOULD BE AT THE 18TH, IF I RECALL.

IS THAT WEDNESDAY IS WHEN WE WOULD DO THE BID OPENING.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT TURNED AROUND.

WELL, LOOKING, LOOKING, LOOKING UP ON THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS, THE THE TIME FRAME IN WHICH ALL THIS WAS PUT OUT MAY MAY END UP WORKING IN OUR IN OUR FAVOR LONG TERM WITH WITH ADDITIONAL BIDS AND AND SUBMITTALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE MORE PALATABLE TO US WITH WITH A TIME FRAME THAT WILL BE BETTER FOR PROJECT COMPLETION.

SO THAT'S, I THINK, MUCH WE CAN HOPE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR IN OUR POSTING THAT THIS IS A PART OF A GRANT FUNDED PROJECT, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT THERE, BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE BOLDED AND HIGHLIGHTED TO, TO TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A MATCH COMPONENT.

SO WHEN THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS THEIR BID, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COMPONENT, WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE OUR DOLLARS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE MATCH FUNDING. AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PRICE OF THE WORK? COME AGAIN? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PRICE OF THE WORK? WE GOT A SET OF BID DOCUMENTS, AND WE GAVE YOU A PRICE TO PERFORM THE WORK THAT'S SHOWN ON THOSE DRAWINGS.

ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF WORK? IF NOT, THE PRICE OF THE WORK IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

COULD YOU? WHO IS THIS? SO THIS IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM CA WALKER? YES. MY NAME IS CHRIS WALKER. I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

AND SO YOU GAVE US A SET OF DRAWINGS AND WE GAVE YOU A PRICE TO DO THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND.

I'VE LISTENED TO ALL YOUR SITUATION HERE. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON THE DRAWINGS.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE PRICE IS GOING TO CHANGE? BIG BLANKS ARE ALL. I MEAN, DON'T SPEAK UP. TELL ME YOU HAVE BIG, GIANT BLANK SPOTS AND THE. THEY'RE BIG. YOU MISSED BIG AREAS OF DETAILED INFORMATION.

AND THE BIDS ARE GO ALL OVER THE PLACE. THEY'RE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT.

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AND WE CAN PROVIDE A BOND TO DO THE WORK. AND WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE DRAWINGS AND THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIED PRICE.

MISSING INFORMATION. WHAT INFORMATION IS MISSING? YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT THE FORM CORRECTLY. YOU'VE JUST GIVEN US. NO NO NO NO.

YOU SAY WE DON'T FILL OUT THE FORM CORRECTLY.

WE DID FILL OUT THE FORM CORRECTLY. IF YOU WANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL ITEMIZATION IN THE FORM.

LIKE FOR SANITARY SANITARY SEWER. YOU DON'T HAVE A LINE BREAKDOWN FOR THAT.

YOU ONLY HAVE GRADING, DRAINAGE, AND UTILITY ITEMS AS A WHOLE.

WE CAN'T SEE YOUR INDIVIDUAL PRICES FOR THAT TWO INCH WATER FOUR INCH STORM CENTER, BUT WE PROVIDE A BOND TO DO EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THOSE DRAWINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE PRICE PROVIDED.

SO IF THE CITY WANTS THE WORK DONE, WE WILL DO IT FOR OUR STATED AMOUNT AND WE PROVIDE A BOND BACKING THAT UP.

ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU'RE. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE'RE STILL REJECTING THE BIDS. AND IF YOU WANT TO REBID THIS, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU STAND BY YOUR SAME PRICE.

AND I GUESS YOU SHOULD RESUBMIT THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT, BUT I.

I'M LOOKING AT MY ARCHITECTURAL FIRM WHO SAYS THEY HAVE A PROBABLE COST ESTIMATES, AND THESE ARE NOWHERE NEAR THOSE COST ESTIMATES.

SO WITH THAT SAID THAT'S JUST OUTSIDE THE BUDGET AND IT CAN'T CONTINUE.

IS IT OVER OR UNDER THE BUDGET. OVER. NO. WHO CREATED THE BUDGET? CLAUDIA DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE? HI, THIS IS CLAUDIA WALKER. SO NO RELATION. SO, YES, THE OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE WAS CREATED BY BURDETT BASED ON PREVIOUS PROJECT BIDS, AS WELL AS CURRENT COSTS.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS A, A, YOU KNOW, SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN, IN PRICING FROM ONE ALL OF THE, THE, THE BIDDERS AS WELL AS OUR COSTS. BUT THERE WAS THE ONE LINE ITEM ON, ON THIS ONE THAT WAS EXTREMELY HIGHER THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND THERE WAS NO TRUE DESCRIPTION ON WHAT THAT ENTAILED.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE THE QUESTION REALLY IS ON, ON THIS THIS PIECE, I AGREE WITH YOU COMING FROM THE CONTRACTORS.

AND SPEAKING OF THIS IS LOGAN WALKER, AND I UNDERSTAND THE BID HAS BEEN REJECTED, BUT AS IT GOES BACK OUT TO THE MARKET, ONE COMMENT I WILL SAY IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BID FORM AND YOU HAVE THE ITEM GENERAL CONDITIONS.

AND THERE ARE THREE LINE ITEMS. AND THE SPECIFICATIONS SAY THAT YOU CANNOT MODIFY THE BID FORM.

AND THOSE GENERAL CONDITIONS ARE YOUR PAYMENT PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE BOND, YOUR SWIFT WHICH IS YOUR STORMWATER PREVENTION PROTECTION AND THEN 60 DAY LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. BUT AS A CONTRACTOR, ALSO WITHIN THOSE GENERAL CONDITIONS YOU HAVE COSTS FOR JOB TRAILER, YOUR TEMPORARY FENCE. THERE ARE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS IN THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT LINE OUT HOW TO PROTECT THE MATERIALS ON THE PROJECT AND OTHER GENERAL CONDITIONS, SUCH AS A SUPERINTENDENT OR OTHER COSTS FOR FOR PAPER, FOR PRINTING.

AND SO AS A BREAKDOWN ON THE BID FORM, IT BECOMES A CONVOLUTED MESS WHEN YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ADD IN REAL COSTS FOR THE PROJECT WITHIN THESE SPECIFIED LINE ITEMS. SO YOU DO GET SOME KIND OF VARIATION ON YOUR NECESSARY LUMP SUM NUMBERS. AND THEN AND THEN THERE'S DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE DRAWINGS AND THE BID FORM, WHETHER IT BE COUNTS ON LANDSCAPE PIECES AND SUCH.

AND SO WE AS A CONTRACTOR HAVE TO PRICE THE SPECIFICATIONS AND THE DRAWINGS.

AND THEN WHEN WE'RE PROVIDED A BID FORM, OUR FINAL PRICE HAS TO ALIGN THE TOTAL BASED BID NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM LINE.

AND WHERE YOU HAVE BID FORM TO ALIGN, THAT BECOMES A A CHALLENGE.

AND THIS WAS THIS WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE BID PROCESS.

AND SO AS, AS IT GOES BACK TO REBID, I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO ATTENTION THAT WE MIGHT POSSIBLY NEED AN UPDATED BID FORM THAT INCLUDE

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YES. I THINK THAT IS AN IDEAL. YOU KNOW, WE WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL LINES TO, TO THE BID FORM TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON, ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS. AND THE ONE THING THAT DID COME UP WAS THE, AN ABILITY TO, TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE BID FORM, WHICH WE STILL STAND BY THAT.

BUT THERE'S ALSO CLARIFICATIONS. BUT DURING THE BID PROCESS, IT DOES SAY IN THE SPECS MANIPULATION OF THE BID FORM QUALIFIES FOR REJECTION OF PROPOSALS. SO SO DURING THIS FIRST PROCESS, WE DID NOT WANT TO MANIPULATE THE BID FORM IN ANY WAY BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO CANCEL OURSELVES OUT AFTER SPENDING TIME ABSORBING THE DRAWINGS, ABSORBING, REACHING OUT TO MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SUBCONTRACTORS TO TO GET THE MOST COMPETITIVE RIGHT PRICE THAT WILL PROVIDE THE QUALITY AND EXPECTATION OF WORK THAT THE CITY OF ANGLETON WANTS IN THE IN THE TIME SPAN DESIRED.

AND THAT TIME SPAN WAS TO TO PROVIDE THE PROJECT AND AND HAVE DOORS OPEN FOR PUBLIC USE.

ON HER BIRTHDAY, WHICH IS MID-JUNE. AND SO WHEN WE PRICE THIS PROJECT, THAT WAS THE INTENTION.

IT WAS TO PROVIDE THE QUALITY AND STANDARD THAT IS THAT IS MATCHES OUR EXPECTATIONS AND THE CITY OF ANGLETON EXPECTATIONS, AND THEN ALSO IN A TIMELY MANNER TO TO MEET THE DESIRED OUTCOME FOR ALL.

HEY, LOGAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO STEP UP AND TALK.

TELL US WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. FOR ME, WHEN I LOOK AT SECTION TWO, IT'S TITLED GRADING, DRAINAGE, UTILITY AND UTILITY ITEMS. AND THAT'S THE ONE AREA THAT'S REALLY JUST HAS KIND OF A LUMP SUM PLACED IN IT.

IT'S IT'S WHILE YOU'RE ARGUABLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN BUDGET ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THERE'S A LOT OF BLANKS LEFT IN THE SLOTTED ITEMS. THAT'S NOT THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE, BUT WHAT ALSO I NOTICED ABOUT THAT IS THAT YOU'RE APPROXIMATELY FOUR TIMES OVER THE PROJECTED AS WELL AS YOUR COMPETITORS.

AND I KNOW EVERYBODY DOES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO CAN YOU JUST HELP US WHEN YOU, I GUESS, BREAK OUT YOUR NEXT BID? AND I HOPE YOU DO PUT IN ANOTHER BID. YOU KIND OF LAY OUT HOW YOU GOT TO THAT FIGURE.

YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY AND I THINK THAT'S I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, OUR QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED AND I AGREE AND I UNDERSTAND.

SO WHAT I, WHAT I SEE ON OUR BID FORM POSSIBLY IS MODIFIED COMPARED TO WHAT WAS TURNED IN.

AND THAT IS A RESULT. AND Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AS AS BID TIME APPROACHES, VENDORS ARE THROWING OUT THEIR PRICING NUMBERS AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE, AND YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH YOUR HANDFUL OF GUYS THAT YOU TRUST THAT YOU KNOW WILL PROVIDE THE WORK IN THE STANDARD THAT ARE NOT OVERPRICED.

AND THERE'S THERE'S SUBS THAT WE KNOW THAT CAN DO HUGE PROJECTS, AND THEY'RE ENTIRELY MORE EXPENSIVE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECTS LIKE THIS, THERE'S THERE'S NO REASON TO REACH OUT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO RAKE UP THEIR FEE AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY AND HAVE A CLEAN LICK ON A SMALLER PROJECT. BUT THERE'S A HANDFUL OF QUALITY GUYS THAT WE KNOW THAT MATCH EACH BECAUSE WE DID WE DID A PARKS PROJECT NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH BURDETT AND IT WAS CALLED BACHMAN PARK, AND IT WAS A BASEBALL PARK, AND IT WAS A VERY BEAUTIFUL, GREAT, SUCCESSFUL PARK AND WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AND IT WAS GREAT. AND SO SO WHEN I LOOK AT MY BID FORM I MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY SEE THE BLANKS THAT Y'ALL ARE SEEING.

AND THAT IS A RESULT OF VENDOR NUMBERS COMING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE.

SOMEONE WRITING IN WITH A PENCIL AS FAST AS HE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUBMIT OUR PROPOSAL IN THE RIGHT TIME, BUT WE'RE ALSO GIVING YOU THE MOST COMPETITIVE, CORRECT PRICING.

AND SO IF THAT IF THAT URGES US TO SAY, HEY, PUT THIS AS YOUR LUMP SUM TOTAL JUST SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUT IN NUMBERS SO THAT OUR OUR BASE PROPOSAL MATCHES THE BREAKOUT OF THE DIVISIONS THAT WE CAN WE CAN STAND BY THAT BASE TOTAL THEN, THEN THAT'S SOMETIMES IS A RESULT. AND THAT'S JUST A KIND OF AN ISSUE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY THAT WHETHER YOU'RE AN ELECTRICAL SUPPLY HOUSE,

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AND SO THAT THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE SO MY EXPLANATION.

AND WITH THIS BEING A PUBLIC JOB, THERE'S THERE'S NO MODIFICATION OR ANYTHING.

AND SO MY BREAKDOWN DOES HAVE UNIT PRICES FOR JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

THE ONLY THE ON MY, ON MY BID FORM, I HAVE A A BREAKOUT FOR UNIT PRICES ON EVERY LINE ITEM EXCEPT FOR ELECTRICAL.

AND THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE IS AT 250. RIGHT. THAT 250 ENTAILS EVERYTHING FOR THE ELECTRICAL SCOPE.

AND ON MY BID FORM THAT I SEE, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE COVERED IN FULL TRANSPARENCY AND HONESTY.

SO THAT'S WITHIN THE GRADING. I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT IS, THAT IS THE RESULT OF WHAT HAPPENED.

I APPRECIATE IT. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I APPRECIATE IT.

I WOULD LIKE I SAID, I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL AGAIN PUT IN FOR THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY.

I'M JUST GIVING YOU SOME FEEDBACK. MAYBE THAT WILL HELP YOU IN THE NEXT BID PROPOSAL.

YOU'RE NOT FAR OFF. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT THAT FAR OFF COMPARED TO THE ESTIMATE.

YOU'RE A LITTLE HIGHER, BUT YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE ON ALL THE OTHER AREAS.

I MEAN, THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD NOW, RIGHT? SO BEFORE BEFORE BID, ANYONE COULD ASK FOR A COPY OF THIS AND GET IT.

CLAUDIA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO CHANGE? OUR TOTAL IS THE TOTAL FOR THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.

AND I'M COMFORTABLE STANDING BY THAT SAYING I DON'T THINK GOING TO REPRICE THE SAME PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. WE HONED IN ON THE PROJECT.

WE UNDERSTOOD THE DETAILS. WE WENT THROUGH THE SPECS, WE WE DOVE INTO THE DRAWINGS.

WE UNDERSTOOD THE TIME CONSTRAINT, THE PRICE THAT WE GAVE AS THE PRICE FOR THE PROJECT.

OKAY, CLAUDIA, ARE YOU GOING TO REVISE ANY COST ESTIMATES? YES, AND I WILL QUANTIFY THEM AS THE LINE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE THE BID AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME, THE BID TAB. CAN YOU UPDATE YOUR COST ESTIMATES? SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL PLEASE, SO WE CAN SEE IT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. LOGAN I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INPUT.

SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE BREAKDOWN WAS WAS REALLY WHAT MY, WHAT MY INITIAL PROBLEM WAS WITH THIS AND AND THEN UPON LOOKING AT THAT AND GOING FURTHER DOWN AND JUST LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, AT THE BASE NUMBER YOU HAD AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM OF, CERTAIN SECTIONS.

I'M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS ON YOU GUYS OR ANYTHING IN THE WAY THAT YOU THE WAY THAT YOU BID, BUT AND MAYBE WE WERE MAYBE WE OUR ENTHUSIASM WAS A LITTLE HIGH GETTING THIS IN THE TIME FRAME THAT THAT WE WANTED.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT THE THE BID PROPOSALS BACK AT THE TIME THAT THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR THEM.

I BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE THROWN OUT WITH THE FOR THE PROJECT OR, OR WHAT YOU CAN DO IT FOR, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US, BUT IS THERE, IS THERE ANY REASON FOR YOU THAT THAT GOING BACK THROUGH THIS AND SUBMITTING ANOTHER PROPOSAL THAT IS THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE, IN THE SECTIONS AS DELIVERED IS GOING TO HURT YOU IN ANY WAY.

NO, SIR. WITH, WITH A WITH A SEPARATION OF $650,000 FROM THE OTHER BIDDER.

I, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT AND COMFORTABLE WITH OUR NUMBER IN A COMPETITIVE ASPECT.

AND IN THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, DON'T TAKE THIS AS A BAD THING.

IT'S MORE TIME FOR FOR YOU GUYS TO GO OVER AND PREPARE A ANOTHER BID.

AND IF IF THIS IS WHERE IT'S AT, YOU ONLY HAVE TO BREAK OUT A FEW THINGS AND FILL IN SOME SECTIONS AND YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH ALREADY DONE.

UNDERSTOOD. AND THANK YOU GUYS. NO. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 12. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVIEW OF THE SPLASH PAD.

[12. Discussion and possible action on the review of the splash pad proposals for Abigail Arias Park. ]

MAYOR. SO MOVING ON TO AS WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PROJECT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WAS KIND OF BREAK OUT THIS PROJECT IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. SO FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE, WE HAD THE BID ALTERNATIVES FOR THIS PROJECT.

TWO OF THEM VERY SPECIFICALLY BEING SPLASHPAD AND THE PLAYGROUND.

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SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE. AND I WANTED TO BRING THOSE BEFORE YOU ALL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT WITH THAT. AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO SCROLL DOWN FOR ME, BRENDA. KEEP GOING. SO THE FIRST ONE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS FROM LONESTAR RECREATION.

THEY SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL FOR THIS ONE AS WELL.

SO KEEP IN MIND THAT'S NOT JUST A SPLASH PAD IN THE OPEN FIELD.

IT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU THE IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THERE WILL BE THINGS AROUND THERE, BUT IT MIGHT END UP BEING. STOP IT. AND SO YOU HAVE FIRST PROPOSAL HERE.

AND SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A HIGHLIGHT, SOME OF THE PLAY FEATURES THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THIS HAVE A DUMP BUCKET ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WATER FEATURES COMING UP FROM UNDERGROUND. KEEP GOING THROUGH. YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE KIND OF SHOWS THAT COULD PLAY COMPONENTS.

YOU'LL HAVE SOME GROUND LEVEL ONES THAT THEY CAN MANEUVER AND MANIPULATE THROUGH.

YOU'LL HAVE THE ONES THAT JUST COME WATER COMING OVER TOP.

SO TRADITIONAL SPLASH PAD THAT'S GOING TO GIVE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I WILL SAY WITH THIS ONE.

SO THEIR PRICE QUOTE CAME IN JUST OVER $550,000.

SO ABOUT COMPARABLE WHERE WE KIND OF LOOKING FOR HOWEVER ONE THING TO POINT OUT FOR THIS ONE IS THERE WAS A VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT THAT PART OF OUR TP GRANT REQUIRES US TO REPURPOSE THE WATER. SO AS YOU ALL RECALL, THIS IS A PASS THROUGH SYSTEM.

WE DID RECEIVE EXTRA POINTS FROM TP FOR THAT GRANT.

SO WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THAT TO USE THAT. THEIR PROPOSAL DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST OF TYING IT INTO IRRIGATION AND THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE.

SO THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO DO THAT.

NOW, KEEPING WITH THE GRANT, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT JUST WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THERE. SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL WERE AWARE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS KIND OF JUST BREAKS DOWN KIND OF THE ELEMENTS OF HOW THAT WORKS THROUGH HAVING MORE OF A GENTLE ZONE AND THEN UPGRADING TO MORE DYNAMIC IN PLAY.

SO THEY JUST SO THEY I GUESS THEY JUST SPRUNG THAT ON US.

SO THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING, UNFORTUNATELY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY TYPICALLY WORK WITH FOR THEIRS.

THEY WANTED TO PUT THEIR NAME IN THE HAT. AND I GIVE THEM NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO THE GRANT AS FAR AS THE THE COST OR THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT. YEAH, WE WERE FULLY AWARE OF THAT. SO WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T WE DO. OKAY. YEAH. KEEP GOING.

SO THE SECOND VENDOR WAS VORTEX. SO VORTEX WAS THE SECOND VENDOR.

AND THEIRS INCLUDES A FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK. IT WOULD INCLUDE THE TIE IN TO IRRIGATION.

THIS WOULD BE USED TO DRIP IRRIGATION. SO WE WOULD BE UTILIZING THAT FOR IRRIGATION WOULD FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANTS WOULD PROVIDE A SIMILAR PAY FEATURE. AS YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES HERE ON THE FAR SIDE, THERE IS A SMALL LITTLE WATER AREA FOR YOUNGER KIDS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY IN, KIND OF LIKE A STREAM FEEL.

HAS THE RUN THROUGH SYSTEM, HAS THE DUMPING BUCKET AS WELL, ADDITIONAL PLAY SPLASH FEATURES THAT COME UP FROM BELOW THE SURFACE.

AND SO IT DOES MEET AND FULFILL THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NEED FOR THAT.

THEIR COST CAME IN AT ABOUT $550,000 FOR EVERYTHING.

SO WITH THAT ONE, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE BEFORE YOU STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONTINUE TO FORWARD WITH TALKING ABOUT FINAL PLANS FOR VORTEX. MAINLY BECAUSE IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ONE LAST COMPONENT THAT I AM WORKING ON UPDATED PROPOSAL IS TRYING TO SEE IF LONE STAR IS ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL QUOTES FOR FULL PROJECT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS WITH VORTEX IS ADDING ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS.

SO THE REASON BEING FOR THAT ONE, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE GRANT IS VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS FOR THAT.

SO FOR SOME OF THOSE COSTS, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT COST TO GET THE FULL GRANT.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY ADD A FEW MORE ELEMENTS TO THE SPLASH PAD TO GET US TO THAT THRESHOLD.

SO I WANTED TO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. SORRY FOR JUMPING THE GUN ON YOU.

IT'S HARD FOR JUMPING THE NEXT TIME. NEXT TIME, GIVE THE GOOD NEWS FIRST, OKAY? OKAY. SO HOW'S THIS ALL WORKING TIMING IF WE.

SO IF WE THE BECAUSE IT IS AN ADD ALTERNATE INTO THE PROJECT.

RIGHT. IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD OUTSIDE WITH AN OUTSIDE VENDOR, WE CAN ACTUALLY PULL THAT AD, ALTERNATE FROM THE NEXT PROPOSAL, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND ACTUALLY SOLIDIFY AN AGREEMENT AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

TIMELINE SHOULD LINE UP TO BE ABLE TO MATCH WHAT THEY WOULD COME IN AND BE REQUIRED TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SPLASH PAD AND THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK.

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AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR WE SELECT FOR THE FULL PARK WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIRS.

THERE WOULD BE COMMUNICATION OVERLAP WITH SOME OF IT BECAUSE THERE IS TIE IN AS FAR AS THE ELECTRICAL AND THINGS TO, TO THE TO PAVILION TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SPLASH PAD AND THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY THERE.

SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP, BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND DO FULL WORK, AND WE WOULDN'T AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE OTHER PROJECT.

OKAY. YEP. COUNCIL. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON PLAY FEATURES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR. ON THE VORTEX.

THERE'LL BE NO STANDING WATER, RIGHT? SO IT ALL SHOULD BE SLOPED APPROPRIATELY TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE DRAINAGE TO CATCH THAT.

I MEAN, YOU MAY HAVE SOME, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TEXTURED SURFACE TO WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE POOLING OR SHOULDN'T BE POOLING.

WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE THE STIPULATIONS FOR THE FOR THE WATER CONTAINMENT? I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVER DISCUSSED THAT. LIKE WHAT WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THEIR GUIDELINES FOR FOR MEETING THAT BULLET POINT.

SO THERE WASN'T A WITH THE GRANT. IT WAS KIND OF OPEN ENDED IN A WAY THAT YOU HAD TO REPURPOSE SOME OF IT.

HOW MUCH IS DEFINITELY DEFINED. SOME OF IT. SO WELL, I SHOULD SAY THE IDEA IS THAT CAN CAPTURE THE MAJORITY OF IT.

THE TOTAL. DO YOU REMEMBER THE STORAGE TANK SIZE? IS WHAT I'M. WHAT I'M PICTURING IS WE HAVE A STORAGE TANK WITH AN OVERFLOW THAT FLOWS INTO THE STORM SEWER.

YES. AND SO WHATEVER'S HELD THERE IS HELD, AND WE'RE GETTING OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

IN IRRIGATION. BUT, I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN IRRIGATE THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE.

AND SO IT'S JUST. ARE THEY JUST SAYING, LIKE, MAKE AN EFFORT? YES.

IDEALLY, THAT'S TRULY WHAT IT IS, IS THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF IT.

A LOT OF IT'S BASED ON USAGE. A GREAT EXAMPLE WOULD BE SUMMERTIME.

WE ENVISION THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY USED, SO THAT STORAGE TANK WILL PROBABLY FILL UP AND OVERFLOW THE MINIMAL IRRIGATION.

IT WILL BE OVERFLOW. THE OTHER DESIGN SPECIFICALLY IS, IF YOU ALL RECALL, WAS IT WAS INTENTIONAL FOR US TO GO WITH THE PASS THROUGH SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE LESS MECHANICAL COMPONENTS TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.

KEEPING THE CHEMICALS UP MAKING SURE THAT THE COMPONENTS ARE ALWAYS WORKING, RECIRCULATING CAN CAUSE A FEW ADDITIONAL HICCUPS.

SO BUT, YEAH, SO IT'S THE INTENT IS KNOWING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE OVERFLOW.

YES. WE HAVE SPARE WATER, SO. YEAH.

SORRY, GUYS. YOU CAN STORE IT AND SELL IT BACK TO BUE. IT'S JUST UNDER 24,000 GALLONS IS THE SIZE OF THE STORAGE TANK.

WHAT KIND OF ACTION DO YOU NEED FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT ON THIS ITEM? REALLY? JUST A RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH ONE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, TO BRING BACK FOR APPROVAL IN THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

OKAY, SO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH VORTEX, AT LEAST HAS THE READ WHATEVER INTEGRATION WATER PROGRAM.

SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO GO WITH VORTEX OR CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH VORTEX. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER 13. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVIEW OF PLAYGROUND PROPOSALS FOR ABIGAIL AREAS.

[13. Discussion and possible action on the review of playground proposals for Abigail Arias Park. ]

SO SIMILAR TO THE LAST PROJECT, THIS IS THE PLAYGROUND COMPONENT OF IT.

I CAN SAY THAT BOTH OF THESE DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, SO NO SURPRISES ON THIS ONE.

THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT RENDERINGS RECEIVED. WE RECEIVED ONE FROM COMING IN RECREATION, AND ONE OF THEM FROM LANDSCAPE STRUCTURES OR LONE STAR RECREATION.

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SO IF YOU SCROLL UP FOR ME QUICK. SO THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR CUNNINGHAM RECREATION.

SO IT DOES INCLUDE PLEASE DON'T GET MISALIGNED WITH THE COLORS THAT YOU SEE ON THE GROUND.

IT IS A POOR IN PLACE STRUCTURE. IT IS NOT WOOD FIBERS.

THAT WAS A VERY CLEAR AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE NEXT TO THE SPLASH PAD.

BUT THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU THE COMPONENTS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A 2 TO 5 A 5 TO 12.

ALSO, THE BERM IN THE BACKGROUND THAT HAS THE SLIDES COMPONENT ATTACHED TO THAT, AND THEN THE SWINGS, WHICH WERE ALL TOP OR TOP REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE PLAYGROUND GOES AND THEN ALSO TIED INTO THE GRANT COMPONENTS.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL THEY PUT FORWARD. COLORS CAN CHANGE THAT DOESN'T HAS TO BE SOLIDIFIED.

BUT THIS IS THE RENDERING THAT CUNNINGHAM RECREATION PROVIDED AS FAR AS THEIRS.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS FROM LOEWENSTEIN RECREATION.

YOU'LL HAVE A COUPLE MORE RENDERINGS WITH THIS ONE. THAT ONE AT LEAST TIES TO SPLASH PAD.

AND YOU SEE THE FULL PICTURE. BUT SIMILAR. THEY HAVE A 2 TO 5, A 5 TO 12.

YOU HAVE THE SWINGS INCLUDED THERE, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE BERM ON THE BACKSIDE THAT PROVIDES A PLAY FOR EVERYBODY AND PUTS IN THAT THE BERMING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT TOPOGRAPHY AND THE PLAYSCAPE. SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ONE, LOOKING FOR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC VENDOR Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH OR INTERESTED IN CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS WITH BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY PROPOSED, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEIR COSTS ARE ABOUT THE SAME.

SO IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE ONCE WE GET THE SPLASH PAD COMPONENTS INCLUDED, WE WILL DO SO. BUT I WANTED TO BRING THESE BEFORE YOU TO SEE IF THERE IS A PREFERRED VENDOR THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE US TO CONTINUE WITH.

CONVERSATIONS WITH WHAT OTHER CITY PARKS HAVE POOR AND PLAY LAKESIDE.

OKAY. YEAH. IT'S OUR FIRST ONE. EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH IT? DEFINITELY HAPPY. I CAN TELL YOU KIND OF HOW THE INDUSTRY IS GOING.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INCLUSIVE. THE ENGINEERED WOOD FIBERS TAKE REGULAR MAINTENANCE YEARLY AND GET COMPRESSED AND THEY'RE HARD TO CREATE ACCESS TO. SO THIS WOULD CREATE A SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM THE SIDEWALK AND THE PAVILION TO THE SPLASH PAD TO THE PLAYGROUND. SO ALL OF IT WOULD TIE IN WELL TOGETHER, I WILL, AND THAT'S A GOOD RENDERING TO SHOW HERE.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, THERE IS A BUFFER THAT'S CREATED BETWEEN THE SPLASH PAD AND THE PLAYGROUND, AND THAT'S DESIGNED BY BOTH. SO DON'T I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT HERE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A BUFFER.

SO IT HELPS ALLEVIATE ANY SLIP SPOTS. THE POUR PLATE.

IT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S SLICK, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP WATER FROM POOLING ON THAT.

AND SO THERE IS ABOUT I BELIEVE IT'S A FIVE FOOT GAP IN BETWEEN TO CREATE SOME OF THAT DISTANCE.

SO. AND WHAT'S THE GAP MADE OUT OF CONCRETE. OKAY.

IT'D STILL BE LIKE A NON SLICK SURFACE SIMILAR TO THE SPLASH PAD.

IT'S JUST THEY CREATE THAT BETWEEN THE PLAY AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT BUFFER.

IS IT RAISED IN ANY WAY. IS THERE A SLOPE IS THERE.

IT'LL BE SLOPED SLIGHTLY FOR DRAINAGE. BUT IT'S NOT.

IT'S IT SHOULDN'T CREATE ANY DEVIATION. NO. OKAY.

SO SO JUST WANT TO GET Y'ALL'S COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT'S PLAYGROUND VENDOR Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK THE LONE STAR KIND OF UNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT.

I MEAN, FLOWERS AND BUTTERFLIES AND STUFF.

I THINK I WOULD SAY IS ON THE LONE STAR AND ALL THIS PROBABLY CAN JUST BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.

THEY COULD MAKE SURE MY LITTLE DISTANCE AGAIN FROM THE SPLASH PAD.

IT SEEMS LIKE NOT THAT TRYING TO MAKE TWO AREAS BUT.

THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR CHAOS AND. YOU KNOW WHEN THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY RENDERING, RIGHT? YEAH. I'M JUST JUST SAYING WHEN WE COME TO PLANNING, AND I JUST MAY WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE TWO AREAS.

THAT'S ALL THE BASE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING LIKE THIS RENDERING SPECIFICALLY.

SO THAT LIGHT GRAY AREA IS THAT FIVE WOULD REPRESENT ABOUT A FIVE FOOT GAP.

SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE QUITE A BIT I WILL SAY RENDERING WISE WE PROBABLY COULD MOVE THE SWINGS OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE, RIGHT. BUT YOU PROBABLY HAVE MAYBE 15 TO 20FT BEFORE BEFORE THAT PLAY FEATURE THERE.

OKAY. YEAH THAT'S FINE I JUST YEAH. SO TYPICALLY THOSE SWINGS ARE FEEL LIKE WE COULD ORIENT THEM A LOT DIFFERENTLY THAN.

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SO I THINK THE CUNNINGHAM RECREATION, THEY MAY HAVE HAD THE SWINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

REALLY TODAY IS MORE OF A PREFERRED VENDOR TO START TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS WITH, TO SOLIDIFY FOR SECURING THEM IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING.

NEED A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH LONE STAR.

SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIELS. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH TO USE LONE STAR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? AND I THINK, BUFFER OR NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF WET KIDS AND SWINGS AND STUFF.

SO I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW MINE. I'M NOT VERY WORRIED ABOUT THIS.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT SWINGING INTO A KID. WHACKING SOME KID AT YOUR LEGS AS YOU SWING UP.

THAT'S THE WHOLE GOAL. OKAY, I'M GONNA CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME MORE PARKS.

[14. Discussion and possible action to approve vendor proposals related to the installation of Field No. 6 at Bates Park; and authorize the Acting City Manager to execute the associated proposals and agreements upon legal review. ]

AND AUTHORIZE THE ACTING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ASSOCIATED PROPOSALS AND AGREEMENTS UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THIS WILL I THINK THIS IS MY FINAL ITEM.

SO THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SIX FIELD AT BATES PARK.

SO WE ARE COMING BEFORE YOU TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT.

AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE SECURED TO DATE. YOU WILL FIND IN YOUR PACKET A PROPOSAL FROM PARAGON SPORTS.

IT IS A BY BOARD CONTRACT. THAT WOULD HELP TO SECURE THE SERVICES FOR THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT.

IT HAS THE AGREEMENT THAT IS ATTACHED IN THERE FOR PARAGON.

HAS BEEN SENT THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW ALREADY. SO THEIR PROPOSAL IS FOR $291,000 TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS FIELD IN A WAY TO HELP SAVE COSTS ON THIS. WE HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH PARAGON TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO USE LOCAL VENDORS.

SO STAFF WENT OUT TO SOLICIT ADDITIONAL PRICES TO DO THE FENCING AND THE CONCRETE WORK FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND SO SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT FULL SCOPE OF IT, WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IN THAT PROCESS.

THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS PARAGON, BECAUSE THAT IS TO GET THEIR CONSTRUCTION PHASES STARTED AND THE FENCING AND THE CONCRETE WOULD COME LATER IN THE PROJECT. SO WE HAVE TIME TO FINALIZE AND SECURE THOSE OFFICIALLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO WITH THAT PROPOSAL, YOU'LL SEE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE.

PLEASE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATES. THAT WAS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT DISCUSSION.

WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE SOME THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, THOUGH.

IT IS ABOUT A TWO MONTH TURNAROUND. SO IF WE WERE TO START THIS PROJECT BY MARCH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE PROJECT IN AND HAVE AT LEAST 30 TO ALMOST 60 DAYS FOR THE GRASS TO GROW IN.

WE'RE TRYING TO SHOOT THE SHOOT IN THE DARK FOR THE TOURNAMENT THAT'S COMING UP.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS ONLY A 30 DAY GROWING PERIOD.

AND SO THAT WOULD GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT ALSO RECOMMENDING TO THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION THAT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T UTILIZE THIS FIELD UNTIL THAT TOURNAMENT TOOK PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD FULL TIME.

AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT IS, IF WE START ON MARCH 1ST, THE GOAL IS TO START SOONER THAN THAT.

LOOKING FOR ACTION TONIGHT ON PARAGON'S AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIRS, BECAUSE THAT WILL GET THE BALL ROLLING TO START THAT PROCESS.

AND WE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO GET A SECURED DATE AND POTENTIALLY FEBRUARY FOR THEM TO MOBILIZE AND START THAT PROJECT.

ALSO A THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS ANGLETON GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION IS HELPING TO REDUCE COSTS HERE AS WELL.

SO THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE CUTTING THE INFIELD FOR US. AND SO THEY'LL BE SAVING SOME OF THE TIME AND LABOR ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO THEY WOULD HELP TO MOBILIZE TO CUT THE INFIELDS.

AND THEN PARAGON WOULD COME IN TO DO A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS.

SO THAT'D BE AWESOME. BUT I MEAN, THEY GOT TO GET IT DONE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU CAN'T SAY I'M GOING TO DO IT. AND YOU KNOW, SOMETHING UNFORTUNATE POPS UP AT WORK OR CAN'T GET IT DONE.

AND THAT BACK BACKS UP THE WHOLE PROJECT. SO WE APPRECIATE THEIR INVESTMENT.

WE JUST GOT TO GET IT DONE. THE PARAGON QUOTE INCLUDES THE FENCING AND THE CONCRETE.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE. DOES NOT. YES. DOES NOT INCLUDE.

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SO WITH THE 350,000 THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THIS, WE WILL BE SLIGHTLY OVER.

I HAVE NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FINANCE YET ON SOME OF THAT BECAUSE SUSIE IS CURRENTLY OUT.

BUT I CAN SAY WE COULD HAVE INTERNAL FUNDS IF WE WERE TO USE SOMETHING LIKE PARKLAND DEDICATION.

IT IS ONLY ABOUT 10 TO 12 OVER AT THE MOMENT BASED ON THE CURRENT PROPOSALS.

SO. OKAY. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK THAT WITHIN OUR BUDGET IF WE WERE TO UTILIZE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

SO.

WHAT'S PARAGON GOING TO DO. SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE ENTIRE FIELD WORK.

JUST THE FIELD WORK, FIELD WORK AND IRRIGATION.

I WILL SAY THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, TO DO THE ENTIRE PROJECT WAS 480,000.

AND SO WHEN I MEAN, THEY WERE FULL ON BOARD FOR US SEEKING LOCAL VENDORS, SAYING THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A COST SAVING, WHICH IT DEFINITELY IS. SO. I'M ALL ABOUT AWARDING IT TO LOCAL CONTRACTORS.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, AS LONG AS THEY'RE REPUTABLE AND HAVE DONE WORK IN THE AREA AND THEY HAVE GOOD REFERENCES.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT UNLESS WE WERE TO GET IN A DIFFERENT BID, ALONZO OFFENSE IS ONE THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY USED.

AND SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION ACTUALLY USED THEM FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE FENCES THAT THE THEY DID THAT.

OKAY. YEP. SO THEY WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS VERY SPECIFIC SCOPE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

WELL WHY DO YOU NEED PARAGON THEN. YOU CAN'T GET SOMEBODY WHO CAN DO THE.

THE CUTTING AND THE WHERE WAS IT? THE FLAT WORK AND THE. SO PART OF IT. PART OF IT COMES FROM THE DESIGN COMPONENT OF IT IS ACTUALLY MAKING IT MAKING SURE THAT IT FITS WITHIN SCOPE OF PLAYABLE SURFACE.

SO THIS IS WHAT THEY SPECIALIZE IN. SO THEIRS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY, I'D LIKE THE PLAN SETS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FROM PARAGON, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THE CUTTING OF THE INFIELD. THE ONLY THING FOR CUTTING WAS FOR A COST SAVINGS, IS THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT AGSA HAD SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO SO THAT HOW MUCH COST SAVINGS? APPROXIMATELY? I CAN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT MULTIPLE THOUSANDS BECAUSE IT WAS THE IT REALLY IS THE MAN. IT'S THE MANPOWER FOR THEM WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT COST.

SO.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE RUSHING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MEET A DEADLINE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING. IF IT'S REALLY THAT GOOD OF A DEAL FOR US TO GO WITH THEM ON THIS, WHEN ALL THEY'RE REALLY DOING IS THE OUTFIELD. WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO I MEAN, SO THEY'RE COMING BACK AND DOING THE FINISHED PRODUCT ON THE INFIELD. SO ALL AND AGSA IS DIGGING IT OUT.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT A SIMILAR SCOPE OF PROJECT NOW, IT'S A LARGER FIELD.

I MEAN, FREEDOM PARK, THAT FULL BID. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $1 MILLION PROJECT ON THAT ONE.

SO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TO, TO ENSURE THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT.

TRYING TO GET THIS ONE WITHIN SCOPE AND MINIMIZE COSTS IS A HURDLE TO DO.

BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BARE BONES BASIC TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A QUALITY VENDOR THAT DOES THIS IN THE INDUSTRY.

I CAN TELL YOU ANOTHER VENDOR THAT WE REACHED OUT TO REGARDING A PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS THEY WERE ALMOST DOUBLE THE PRICE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO BE ABLE TO TO DO THE FIELD WORK.

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SO OKAY. AND I CAN SAY THEY HAVE COME WITH HIGH RECOMMENDATIONS, BOTH FROM PEOPLE WITHIN OUR REGION THAT UTILIZE PARAGON SPECIFICALLY. AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE ALSO INTERESTED IN BIDDING ON THE FREEDOM PARK ONE.

I THINK WE'VE USED THEM BEFORE. NOT THAT I RECALL PARAGON, BUT VERY FAMILIAR NAME THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE. OR MAYBE I MET HIM AT. YEAH, I'M SURE WE HAVE.

I FEEL LIKE THAT. NAMES? YEAH. OKAY. COUNCIL.

ANY. ACTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BY BOARD RECOMMENDATION PARAGRAPH. YEP. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANN SARTIN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS COFFEY? WELL, YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME OUTSIDE INVOLVEMENT IN THIS.

I NEED YOU TO BE ON TOP OF IT. AND IF I'VE ALREADY SENT THE EMAIL THIS TODAY AS A REMINDER THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA AND THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO HAVE A MEETING AFTER POTENTIAL APPROVAL TO MOVE, AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT THAT INVOLVEMENT TO BE A DELAY.

LIKE, LIKE WAS JUST SAID. I MEAN, THINGS COME UP AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND WE WE APPRECIATE ANYBODY'S ASSISTANCE WITH ANYTHING.

BUT IF IF IT BECOMES IF IT BECOMES ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S NOT GETTING DONE, YOU NEED TO CALL AN AUDIBLE.

IT'S GOT TO BE A CONDUIT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A MESSAGING AND COORDINATION OR WILL JUST WON'T.

I AM HOPEFUL THAT THE TIME LINE WON'T EVEN COME CLOSE.

I AM HOPEFUL THAT BECAUSE KNOWING WHERE THIS PROJECT STARTED, THAT THERE WASN'T FUNDING AND THAT THE CITY HAS MADE THIS A PRIORITY, THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE ONUS, RECOGNIZING AND APPRECIATION THAT WE'RE MAKING THIS HAPPEN, TO GET THEM THE ADDITIONAL FIELD THAT WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL TO THEIR CURRENT PLAYABILITY AND WHAT THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE.

YEAH. AND THIS IS THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST AGAINST ANYONE OR THEIR EFFORTS.

THIS IS EXPERIENCE. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU JASON. THANK YOU. NOW YOU DON'T MISS IT.

YES. ITEM NUMBER 15. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD THE STREET BOND PROJECT THREE PARRISH STREET AND SILVER SADDLE DRIVE TO CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO

[15. Discussion and possible action to award the Street Bond Project III (Parish Street and Silver Saddle Drive) to Matula & Matula Construction, Inc. in the amount not to exceed $2,861,267.24 and give authority to the mayor to execute the construction contract documents. ]

WE TOOK BACK THE BIDS WENT THROUGH THEM. THERE WERE SEVERAL ERRORS.

BUT IT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT OF THE BIDS.

AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH AND REQUESTING REFERENCES, WE GOT THE REFERENCES IN FROM THE LOWEST BIDDER, CASTILLO ARANDA. THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED US FOR, REFERENCES OF PROJECT OF SIMILAR SIZE AND NATURE WAS ACTUALLY DONE UNDER A DIFFERENT COMPANY. SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE DONE.

GOT SOME OTHER FEEDBACK ABOUT THEM. SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE FROM THEM TO ENVIRONMENTAL ALLIES.

THE SECOND PLACE BIDDER WE RECEIVED THEIR REFERENCES.

REACHED OUT, CALLED ALL THEIR REFERENCES. GOT THOSE BACK.

WE DID NOT GET GOOD REFERENCES ON ENVIRONMENTAL ALLIES, SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE TO THE THIRD PLACE BIDDER.

THE THIRD PLACE BIDDER IS MATULA. MATULA. WE COORDINATED WITH THEM, GOT THEIR REFERENCES CHECKED THEM.

THEY CAME BACK WITH GREAT REFERENCES. THEY'VE GOT A GOOD HISTORY HERE WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON. THEY DO SOME REALLY GOOD JOBS FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON. THEY'RE REALLY GOOD WITH RESIDENTS. ALL ALL REFERENCES SAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM BACK WORKING WITH THEM ON THEIR PROJECT.

WE HAVE NOTIFIED BOTH FIRST AND SECOND PLACE LOW BIDDERS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO COUNCIL IF THEY'D LIKE TO EXPRESS THEIR THEIR, THEIR DESIRES TO BE CONSIDERED. I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND TO AWARD THE BIDS IN FOR THE AMOUNT OF

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I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE CONTRACT IN THE MIDDLE IN THE AMOUNT OF 2.87 MILLION.

NOT GOING THROUGH THAT. SORRY. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH. I'LL JUST SAY THAT THIS IS A UNDER BUDGET, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUDGET WAS 3 MILLION, SO WE HAVE SOME SAVINGS FOR SOME OTHER STREETS.

LET'S DO IT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I APPRECIATE MATTHEW AND MATTHEW CONTINUED INVOLVEMENT IN THE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR CITY.

YEAH. JUST CURIOUS. ANY SORT OF IDEA OF CONSTRUCTION TIME? ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACTS EXECUTED. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE US ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO WEEKS TO GET THAT DONE.

WE'LL DO THE PRE-CON MEETING, AND THEN I'LL BRING BACK A SCHEDULE AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU ALL AS AN UPDATE. GOOD, BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY WANT TO START WITH THE STARTING THIS TIME.

ARE WE GOING TO START AT SILVER SADDLE LIKE WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, AND THEN TRY TO HIT PARRISH STREET AT THE BEGINNING OF SUMMER? IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT IF WE COULD DO THAT.

OR IS IT GOING TO BE SO CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WANT TO KIND OF START LOOKING AT PARISH FIRST, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SILVER SADDLE. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOCK THAT OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.

THAT'S A JUST A REMOVE AND REPLACE. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? I WILL ABSTAIN.

MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 16. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE TEXAS TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

[16. Discussion and possible action on the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) 288B Downtown Improvements.]

LAST TIME I CAME AND UPDATED Y'ALL ON THAT, WE RECEIVED A 30% PLAN.

SO I WENT THROUGH THE PLANS AND SHOWED Y'ALL ALL THE COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING. I RECENTLY RECEIVED A 60% PLAN THAT WENT THROUGH THEM.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE ADDRESSED MAJORITY OF MY COMMENTS.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS THAT I SAW.

I'M GOING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM. ONE OF THE COMMENTS, IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS THAT THE LANE WIDTHS WERE NOT WHERE I WANTED THEM TO BE IF TEN FOOT OR GREATER, CLOSER TO 11. AND THEREFORE WE REQUESTED TO REMOVE THE BIKE LANES TO WHERE IT WOULD PROVIDE THE, THE, THE CORRECT SIGN OR CORRECT WIDTHS, AND THEN WOULD USE THE MARKING TO HAVE A SHARED LANE WITH BIKES AND AND CARS, WHICH IS THE WAY IT IS NOW, RIGHT? THE BIKE HAS THE RIGHT TO THE ROADWAY, SO IT'S NOTHING DIFFERENT, JUST A MARKETING. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE WENT BACK AND I SPENT TODAY MEASURING ALL THE THE LANES AND THEY WERE ABLE TO WIDEN THEIR PROJECTIONS. SO THEY HAVE RESPONDED BACK THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO GET ALMOST TEN FOOT OR OVER TEN FOOT WIDE, CLOSER TO 11 ON ALL THE LANES AND STILL PROVIDE THE BIKE LANES.

AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE THING WAS APPROVED ON, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP THE BIKE LANES IN.

SO I'M TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING. I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK ON THAT AND SEE IF I CAN GET THOSE BIKE LANES REMOVED TO WHERE WE CAN GET 12 FOOT LANES THROUGH THAT AREA.

BUT I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ALL TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO. I'M I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL OUT TEX DOT.

ANYBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE RIDE THEIR BIKE IN DOWNTOWN? I'M NOT SO SURE HE DOES, BUT WE'LL SEE. NO. IT'S OKAY.

GABE, I KNOW. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. BUT THAT'S MY POINT.

SO I'LL COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THAT. THEY KNOW ANGLETON SO WELL.

THE OTHER THING THAT I DID NOTICE ON THIS, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT, IS THE SIGNAL POLES AND THE PEDESTRIAN POLES.

THEY WERE TURNED. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THEY WERE TURNED OFF ON THE PLANS THAT I RECEIVED.

BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT THE SIGNAL POLES ARE GOING TO STAY.

AND ANOTHER COMMENT THAT SINCE THERE WAS NO PEDESTRIAN POLES AT INTERSECTION, THEY WON'T PUT ONE BACK.

TO WHICH MY COMMENT WAS IS THIS ISN'T A REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

THIS IS A NEW PROJECT. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO VISIT WITH THEM.

I'VE GOT A MEETING WITH THEM. I'M GOING TO TRY TO SET UP TOMORROW OR THURSDAY.

I'M GOING TO GET THEM BACK. MY COMMENTS. BUT I THINK I THINK I'M HOPING SOMETHING WAS TURNED OFF.

RIGHT. BECAUSE I MEAN, EVERY EVERY 130% YOU SAW HAD PEDESTRIAN POLES AND NEW SIGNALIZATION.

I MEAN, WE HAD TO WE HAD TO SELECT A COLOR AND DESIGN WE WANTED, LIKE.

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I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE PRACTICE SELECTING SELECTIONS OF THINGS.

RIGHT. SO IT WAS JUST AN UPDATE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION ON THIS.

NO ACTION. SO. OKAY, MR. PETERSON, KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE IT. YEP. I WANT YOU GOING IN THERE THE WAY YOU CAME UP TO THE STAND.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. YEAH. YEAH. EVERYBODY UP AND I DO.

I DO WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THERE IS ONE BICYCLIST IN DOWNTOWN AND I SEE HIM ONE.

HE RIDES ON THE SIDEWALKS AND HE'S REPRESENTED BY GABE RAISING HIS HAND.

YES. ONE HE'S. HE'S VERY ACTIVE, BUT HE STICKS TO THE SIDEWALK, SO HE GOES DOWN.

HE DOESN'T GO DOWN THE MAIN DRAG. HE GOES. LIKE I SAID, THE BIKE LANE BELONGS ON FRONT STREET.

HONESTLY, THAT'S WHERE HE GOES. AND NOBODY EVER USES THAT ROAD.

SO THERE YOU GO. ONLY IF YOU'RE LOST AND YOU GO, DANG IT.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 17 DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 288 B UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO PROCEED WITH THE BIDDING PROCESS.

[17. Discussion and possible action on the 288B Utility Improvements to proceed with the budding process. ]

SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT THE LAST TIME AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

WE WANTED TO COORDINATE WITH THE DESIGNERS OF THE 288 B DOWNTOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRE HYDRANTS WERE PUT IN A LOCATION WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET REMOVED AND REPLACED TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY ON THE PROJECT.

THE OVERALL PROJECT. THAT WAS THE MAIN THING.

WE PROVIDED THEM A SET OF PLANS. THEY GAVE US BACK OUR COMMENTS. WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS REQUIRED.

THERE MAY BE ONE THAT WE CAN'T FIX UNTIL THEY PUT THE BULB OUTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, OR WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE SPACE TO PUT IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY IN THERE. ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS.

SO I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT THAT ADDRESSED. WE SAID WE WANTED TO WAIT TILL THE 60% BEFORE WE MOVED FORWARD TO SEE HOW THAT WAS COMING TOGETHER. SO WE'RE AT 60%. I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT DONE.

DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BID OF THE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS IN PREPARATION FOR THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS? I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE FUNDING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS WHAT SUSIE SAID.

WE DO. OKAY. OR DO Y'ALL WANT TO WAIT TILL WE GET THIS ALL WORKED OUT ON THE 60% ON THE STUFF THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT. THE 60% SHOULD BE WORKED OUT.

BEFORE WE GO FURTHER WITH THIS. I MEAN, I DEFER TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ON THIS.

WHAT WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE JUST WE CAN GO OUT FOR BID AND REJECT THE PIN OR NOT ACCEPT THE BID IF TEX-DOT DOESN'T COME THROUGH ON THEIR SIDE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT US OVER A BARREL.

I DON'T, I DON'T WE'RE NOT UP AGAINST ANY TIMELINE ON THIS, ARE WE? I'D RATHER WAIT. JOHN, THE ONLY THING IS, IS WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF.

TEXAS HAS A WHOLE PROCESS. THEY'RE LETTING PROCESS.

THERE'S A COUPLE MONTHS THERE. WE JUST WANT TO GET DONE BEFORE THEIR CREWS GET OUT THERE.

I DON'T THINK TWO WEEKS TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU KNOW, LET ME HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND THEN MAYBE COME BACK AND REPORT AGAIN AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE AN HAVE INFORMED DECISION OF IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT OR NOT.

YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE OFF, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE DISCUSSING THE WHAT WHAT IS AT THE ROOT OF THE DELAY HERE.

I MEAN, THE COURTHOUSE AND ALL THAT STUFF IS THERE.

AND THE ONE PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD SEE PEOPLE POTENTIALLY USING BIKES THAT THAT MODE OF TRANSPORTATION JUST DOESN'T EXIST.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT WE PROBABLY BEST JUST TO WAIT AND SEE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT KIND OF MAGIC YOU CAN WORK.

YES, SIR. WE'LL TRY TO DO IT. OKAY. AGREED. SO NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 18. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF A FEE WAIVER FOR THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE GRANT.

[18. Discussion and possible action to approve the use of a fee-cap waiver for the General Land Office (GLO) grant contract No. 24-065-043-E535 on Lift Station No.8. ]

I BELIEVE IN YOUR PACKAGE. YOU RECEIVED A MEMO THAT DESCRIBED THE SITUATION AND GAVE YOU A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ON THAT.

HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT?

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RIGHT. YEAH. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR TIME EXTENSION.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? NO. I'M SORRY.

WRONG PROJECT. YES. WE'RE GOOD PROJECT. YEAH.

WE HAD A SIDEBAR, SO SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH? WHAT HAPPENED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME IS JOHN, DID THE ESTIMATING THE BIDS CAME IN SURPRISINGLY LOW.

WE'VE GONE BACK TO GLOW AND ASKED THEM TO LET US EXPAND THE SCOPE.

THERE IS A 25% MAX, ON ANY KIND OF CHANGE TO THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND YOU'RE LOOKING AT EITHER USING A FEE CAP AND NOT HAVING TO PUT ANY MONEY, ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY INTO IT, OR IF YOU CHOOSE TO WAIVE THE FEE CAP, IT'LL BE A COST TO THE CITY OF $103,937.50. SO WHAT WE HAD WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL WE BEING LANGFORD, IS THAT WE FIND NO WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THIS FEE CAP.

ONE TIME DEAL. WE THINK THAT IT WAS LIKE SORT OF AN SOMEBODY SAID THIS, AND THEN IT GOT REPEATED, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY THINKS IT'S OFFICIAL.

IT'S NOT OFFICIAL. SO I WOULDN'T LET THAT LIMIT YOUR DECISION ON GOING WITH THE FEE CAP WAIVER.

WE'RE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT WITH BOTH GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND ENGINEERING.

IT WOULD BE VERY COMPLICATED TO THE PROJECT IF YOU DECIDED TO GO BACK AND MAKE CHANGES TO THOSE, BUT I PROBABLY JUST CONFUSED YOU MORE, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WHAT? JOHN? SO SO ESSENTIALLY, WE HAD TO GIVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO WE GAVE THEM AN ESTIMATE. WE THOUGHT THIS IS WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

FROM THAT ESTIMATE THEY SAID YOU CAN HAVE A CONTRACT AMOUNT OF X AMOUNT, MAKE IT WORK.

SO WE MADE IT WORK. WE GOT EVERYBODY. BOTH LANGFORD AND HDR BROUGHT IT INTO THAT NUMBER.

STILL SAME AMOUNT OF WORK, SAME AMOUNT OF EVERYTHING.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE RECEIVED THOSE BIDS AND THE BIDS CAME IN LIKE REALLY LOW.

REALLY LOW. I MEAN, IT SURPRISED EVERYBODY. THE GLOW WAS GONE BACK AND SAID, ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO RECALCULATE YOUR FEE BASED OFF OF THAT LOWER AMOUNT, THAT LOWER NUMBER. AND THE CITY HAS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY AWARDED AND THE WORK THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.

AND SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE GLOW REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND ALYSSA AND PATTY BOTH KIND OF CHALLENGED HER TO FIND WORDS IN WRITING OTHER THAN JUST SOMEBODY SAYING, IT'S A ONE TIME WAIVER CAP. THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING.

THEY CAN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. Y'ALL CAN'T FIND ANYTHING. NOBODY CAN FIND ANYTHING.

SO THE AMOUNT OF OF MONEY THAT THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE CITY VERSUS TAKING THIS FEE CAP BECAUSE THIS ALSO COVERS A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTION TOO. RIGHT. SO IT COVERS YOUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO WHERE YOU CAN WALK AWAY TO WHERE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETELY COVERED BY THAT, BY THAT, BY THAT FEE WAIVER.

THERE'S NOTHING IN DOCUMENTATION OTHER THAN SOMEBODY SAYING SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, IT'S ONLY A ONE TIME THING, BUT THEY CAN'T PROVE IT, RIGHT? AND WHO'S TO SAY? TWO YEARS FROM NOW THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING.

BY THAT TIME, YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN IT, SO THEY CAN'T GRANDFATHER YOU OUT SO YOU HAVE THAT CHANCE AGAIN. AND THERE'S ALSO A CHANCE THAT THEY MAY NOT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A FEE WAIVER IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. AS COMPETITIVE AS THESE.

CAN I SAY A WORD? YEAH. SO OUR EXPERIENCE WITH GLOW IS SOMETIMES THEY JUST CHANGE THE RULES AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, EVEN IF YOU MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT OUT OF CONCERN THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FEE WAIVER AGAIN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT'LL BE AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE OR OR ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU MAKE A DECISION BASED ON TODAY'S REALITY AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY NOW.

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COUNCIL DO HAVE ACTION.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO SAY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. WHICH ARE YOU PROPOSING THEN? THE FEE WAIVER. TABLE TWO.

TABLE ONE. TABLE TWO IS WHAT WOULD BE THE NET RESULT IF YOU CHOSE TO WAIVE THE FEE CAP AND NOT NOT TAKE YOUR FEE WAIVER THIS TIME, IT WOULD BE A COST TO THE CITY OF $103,937.50 IF YOU USE THE FEE WAIVER. IT'LL BE NO COST TO THE CITY.

ALLEGEDLY AT THIS.

OKAY. I'VE ALREADY SAID IT, SO MAYBE I WASN'T CONFUSED.

MAYBE I WAS JUST. THINKING IT KIND OF SEEMED OBVIOUS, BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG.

WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT IN WRITING ANYWHERE.

JUST TO COME TO YOU WITH FACTS. AND WE CAN WE CAN SAFELY SAY IT IS NOT IN WRITING ANYWHERE.

OKAY. NOW WE WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO DO THIS TO GELO.

THEY MAY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING. THAT'S RIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW.

WE CAN'T PREDICT. THEY WILL, YOU KNOW. BUT.

I THINK I THINK FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE WE TRY TO PLAN APPROPRIATELY, APPROPRIATELY FOR THE FUTURE.

AND YOU KNOW. I'VE SAID IT ONCE TODAY ALREADY.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PRETTY GOOD WITHOUT A PLAN B.

I HAVE A MESSAGE FROM FINANCE PERSON WHO'S HAD TO GO WITH TABLE ONE.

YEAH. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU, SUSIE. THANK YOU.

SUSIE WAS OUR. IT WAS. IT WAS JUST ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO UTILIZE. SPEAK HALFWAY ON LIFT STATION EIGHT PROJECT.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH TO APPROVE THE FEE WAIVER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT.

FINALLY MADE IT TO NUMBER 19. UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON STREET PROJECTS.

[19. Update, discussion and possible action on street projects. ]

AND SO I CREATED A LIST OF MOST OF THESE ARE PREVIOUS STREETS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME CAPACITY.

IT'S GOT A BASIC, JUST QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED ON THAT STREET AND SOME PRELIMINARY COST ON IT.

SOME OF THESE COSTS ARE FROM THE 2023 PAVING ASSESSMENT THAT WE COMPLETED IN 24.

AND THEN ALSO SOME QUOTES THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FOR SOME CONTRACTORS IN 2025.

JUST TO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF IDEA ON A BUDGET ON EACH OF THESE SO IN THE LARGE SCALE SECTION, THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF COMPLETE REBUILD.

AND THESE MAINTENANCE PROJECT AREAS ARE JUST PANEL REPLACEMENTS, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID AT A HOSPITAL DRIVE DOWNING AND BEHIND PLANTATION OR RITA AND THOSE STREETS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND LIST IS AND BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR, THE STREET RATING, CAN YOU GIVE US THAT SUMMARY THAT IT'S ON A SCALE OF WHAT TO WHAT AND WHAT'S HIGH AND WHAT'S LOW, AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 1 TO 9 AND NINE BEING GREAT CONDITION.

NOTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. THAT WOULD BE A STREET WE JUST DID LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A ROBIN HOOD AND A I THINK THE LOWEST I HAVE IN HERE IS A TWO WHICH IS A WAYNE STREET. OKAY. YEP. SO ONCE YOU GET IN RANGE, YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS WORK YOU NEED TO DO ON THAT ROADWAY.

OKAY. WONDERFUL. YEP. AND WE'RE UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE STREETS WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE.

[02:30:05]

YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO PULL TOGETHER THAT STREET BOND, WE KIND OF PULLED TOGETHER THAT MONEY FROM SOME OTHER PLACES. SO FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN THOSE PLACES.

BUT JUST SPEAKING FOR FINANCE, SINCE FINANCE IS NOT HERE TODAY.

BUT YES, THERE'S $138,000 LEFT FROM WHAT WE JUST APPROVED.

APPROVED. AND SO THAT THAT'S AN OPTION. AND WHEN YOU DO THIS, DO YOU THINK THE GREATEST NEED RIGHT NOW IS CONCRETE STREETS OR ASPHALT STREETS? I THINK I THINK THE GREATEST NEED IS FOR, FOR MORE OF LIKE THE HEAVIER TRAFFIC AREAS.

OKAY. SOME AREAS THAT ARE LIKE PASSTHROUGHS THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ALSO SOME OF THESE ONES THAT HAVE SOME DRAINAGE IMPACTS TO THEM. RIGHT. LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE A RICHLAND CIRCLE RAYBURN RIDGE TYPE AREA, WE HAVE SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES ALONG IN THERE TOO. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO LOOK INTO.

BUT I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY THE HEAVIER TRAFFIC. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT STREETS LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO GET TO, THE POINT IS WHERE WE'RE NOT ONLY REPLACING STREETS OR REPAIRING STREETS ON, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO DO JUST LIKE SOME OF THE MINOR REPAIRS, LIKE SOME OF THE CRACKED CEILINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE LIFE OF THE STREET.

SO WE DON'T END UP WITH A BUNCH OF THREE AND FOURS.

BECAUSE IF YOU COMPARE THE LAST PAVING ASSESSMENT, WE DID COMPARED TO THE MORE RECENT ONE, YOU KNOW, ALL WE DID WAS GET AN INCREASE OF THREES FOR YOU COULD JUST SEE ALL THE TABLE OF JUST THE STREETS JUST SLOWLY DEGRADING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ANY SMALLER MAINTENANCE IN THAT. IN THAT SENSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE CRACK CEILING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND LONG TERM, DOES IT EVER COME UP TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS STREET NO LONGER ASPHALT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING FUTURE, FUTURE AND MAKE IT A CONCRETE STREET? YES. AND IN SOME OF THESE CASES, YOU DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT.

BUT WE WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY LIKE TRAFFIC LOADING AND THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT, IS IT WORTH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE ON IT TO MAKE IT A FULL CONCRETE STREET JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT THAT CONCRETE COSTS? YOU KNOW, ALSO DRAINAGE IMPACTS THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE SOME SOME STREETS ARE GOING TO HAVE LIMITED BY THE AREA THAT'S AROUND IT.

YOU CAN IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE ON THAT STREET, BUT WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DRAIN IT TO IF AROUND IT HAS NOT A NOT A GOOD DRAINAGE AREA OVERALL, SO DO ARCOLA AND LUCAS GET THE MOST TRAFFIC? YOU HAVE TO SAY SO, YES. LOCUST STREET THERE BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL, ARCOLA BECAUSE OF COURTHOUSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND IT'S A BIG CUT THROUGH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AS WELL.

RIGHT? WELL, AND I THINK IN THOSE IN THOSE AREAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S.

TO ME, IT'S NOT SO MUCH IN THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS AS WHAT IS WHAT IS AFFORDABLE NOW.

BUT YOU KNOW, WITH THE ASPHALT, WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE OVER TIME.

I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE STREETS IN THE CITY THAT WE'VE POURED DECADES AGO THAT ARE STILL IN VERY GOOD SHAPE, WHICH TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME OF THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE RESEALED AND NEED SOME, SOME WORK TO KEEP THEM IN ORDER. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH THE WITH THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING NOW AND AND OUR BUDGET, I THINK WILL BE IN, IN A POSITION TO TO TAKE ON THOSE TASKS IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT CONTINUITY WITH, WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND CONCRETE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT IS, HECTOR. I AGREE, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE A STREET, LIKE ARCOLA. BUT IF WE LOOK BACK TO A DRAINAGE STUDIES THAT HDR IS DONE TO, TO PUT A CONCRETE STREET, THERE IS NOT REALLY A VIABLE OPTION AT THIS POINT UNTIL YOU IMPROVE THE OVERALL DRAINAGE OF THAT AREA.

I THINK ULTIMATELY, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO BE HEADED.

100%, I AGREE, I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS. THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES REASONABLE SENSE TO ME IS DOWNTOWN IS TO START WORKING YOUR WAY FROM THE COURTHOUSE OUT AND YOU JUST SLOWLY. OF US, AND THEN FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE WITH THAT PROCESS THAT YOU CAN'T EAT AN ELEPHANT IN ONE BITE.

YOU JUST GOT TO KEEP CHEWING AWAY. I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE, CONCRETE, CURB, GUTTER, THOSE PROJECTS STARTING IN DOWNTOWN, MOVING YOUR WAY JUST SLOWLY, A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST, A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH, A LITTLE BIT TO THE SOUTH A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S BASICALLY NORTH AND SOUTH, MAYBE A LITTLE TO THE EAST.

WELL, AND I THINK WE NEED TO WORK. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD WORK.

SOME OF YOU ARE WELL, A FEW OF YOU THAT ARE A LOT BETTER WITH THIS THAN THAN I AM.

AND I KNOW THE DRAINAGE COMPONENT OF THAT IS, IS FOR US.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS BEING THE COUNTY SEAT, I WOULD EXPECT FOR FOR OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO EXTEND TO HELP WITH THESE

[02:35:09]

NO, YOU'RE NOT WRONG. AND WE CAN A COUPLE THOUGHTS.

WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. WHEN SHENANGO WAS SHUT DOWN, ARCOLA HAS BECOME A MAJOR, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

IT'S NOT MAJOR MAJOR, BUT IT IT TOOK IT TOOK THAT.

IT TOOK A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT TAKES A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT TO. I MEAN, YES, YOU POINT OUT A GOOD POINT THAT A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC IS PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY LIVE IN ANGLETON BUT ARE COMING TO THE COURTHOUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ANGLETON A LOT OF TIMES USE THAT AS A CUT THROUGH TO KIND OF GET THROUGH YOUR OLDER, YOU KNOW, SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, WORKING YOUR WAY NORTH.

YEAH. ARCOLA TO VALDEZ. SO I'M JUST SAYING ARCOLA IS A STREET THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD WE MAY WANT TO START CONTINUING.

WE HAD ONE SMALL PIECE OF IT AS PART OF THE SHUTTING DOWN OF SHENANGO.

IN HINDSIGHT, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE IN OUR.

I GUESS, NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY. THEY GOT WAY MORE OUT OF IT THAN WHAT THE CITY GOT OUT OF IT.

SO AND I KNOW THEY PROBABLY PATENT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK AND THINKING HOW THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

I JUST I JUST THINK THAT THE, THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND BILL IN, IN BUILDING OUT THOSE STREETS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN US AND THE AND THE COUNTY WITH THAT. AGREED. THAT'D BE A WAY TO TO APPROACH IT.

I THINK I'M JUST. YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN GO ON ABOUT THAT.

YES, I AGREE. I THINK WE ALSO WANT TO EXPLAIN AGAIN, THERE IS NO MORE STREET BOND MONEY.

WE NEED TO GO OVER THAT ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT PROJECT IS GONE.

CORRECT. TAX DOLLARS ARE GONE. CORRECT. 130,000? YES. THE 138,000. SO SUSIE SAYS SALES TAX COLLECTION FOR STREET REPAIRS STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND WE ONLY HAVE AROUND 309,000. SO DON'T BE USING MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE.

HECTOR. I STAND CORRECTED. THIS CONVERSATION IS NOT JUST FOR TODAY, THOUGH.

THIS NEEDS TO BE A CONTINUAL CONVERSATION AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE IT NOW. FOREVER, RIGHT? FOREVER. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE DOING THE STREETS.

AND WE DID MAKE A GOOD MOVE. THIS, THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, WE TOOK A PERCENTAGE OF THAT TAX AND WE STARTED PUTTING IT TOWARDS THE STREET FUND.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD MOVE. BUT WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WE NEED WE HAVE A GREATER NEED.

WE NEED MORE. BUT YOU KNOW IT WAS A GREAT START GREAT MOVE TO DO THAT.

MR. ATCHISON YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ON YOUR STREET? THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. WHICH STREET? RAYBURN BRIDGE.

RICHMOND CIRCLE. COME ON UP. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THAT STREET FOR TEN YEARS NOW, AND IT'S BEEN GETTING REALLY, REALLY BAD FOR THE PAST THREE. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE? TEN YEARS.

OKAY. AND THE NEIGHBORS AND EVERYONE KIND OF STARTED COMPLAINING ABOUT 4 OR 5 YEARS.

EVERY TIME THE TRASH TRUCK PULLS UP AND PICKS UP A TRASH CAN, IT MESSES UP THE DRAINAGE AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

AND IT'S ASPHALT. I MEAN, AND AND THEN Y'ALL ARE SAYING, START IN THE CENTER OF TOWN AND WORK YOUR WAY OUT.

SO I'M LIKE, MAN, IS OUR STREET EVER GOING TO GET LOOKED AT? AND YOURS IS A CONCRETE STREET. NO, MINE IS ASPHALT.

MINE IS VERSUS A CIRCLE. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. ASPHALT.

OKAY. HECTOR, YOUR OPINION OF PROBABLE COST OF 1.9 MILLION.

WHAT IS THAT ENTAIL FOR RAVEN RIDGE, RICHLAND CIRCLE.

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT? SO HDR PUT THAT PUT THAT PROJECT SCOPE AND COST TOGETHER.

THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF DRAINAGE WORK OUT OUTSIDE OF IT TO GET IT TO THAT.

ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT DITCH. FURTHER EAST ON HOSPITAL DRIVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF DRAINAGE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE. THE ENTIRE ROAD NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE DOWN TO THE BASE BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN TO.

HENCE THE TRASH TRUCK COMMENT THAT THE BASE OF THAT ROAD IS DETERIORATED SO BAD THAT IT JUST IT JUST ANYTHING THAT RUNS OVER IT JUST RUINS IT.

AND THAT STREET ALSO HAS WHAT THEY CALL WHAT IS IT, MONOLITHIC CURB.

CORRECT. YEAH. AND IT'S A, IT'S CONCRETE CURB IS BUILT ALONG AN ASPHALT STREET.

PRETTY MUCH EVERY INCH OF THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AS WELL.

IT WAS BUILT BY THE SAME DEVELOPERS THAT BUILT EVANS STREET.

SO IT'S GOT THE SAME DRAINAGE EDMUND STREET. WELL, YOU WERE TELLING ME THE DEVELOPER THAT DEVELOPED IN THE BACK DRAINAGE.

[02:40:02]

I REMEMBER THERE BEING SOME STRANGE ELEVATION CHANGES BACK THERE.

I'M NOT LONG. FOR MY. I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING UP.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK. IT'S HARD PICKING. YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS.

OH, IT'S. I'M JUST SAYING, AS A GENERAL PRACTICE, WORKING OUR WAY OUT FROM CITY.

BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND, OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN SIMMONS.

SIMMONS. MAKES A GOOD POINT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A ROAD FUND TO DRAW UPON OR PERHAPS BOND MONEY ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.

BUT IT CAN BE BUILT UP TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN BONDED PROJECTS.

AND THIS COULD BE A PROJECT THAT YOU LOOK AT IN ADDITION TO SOME OTHER PROJECTS.

AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S A SEVEN, EIGHT, 9 MILLION OR HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN AFFORD TO TAKE ON, YOU KNOW I DO THINK AND I WONDER THIS, THIS CONVERSATION, WHEN YOU THROW DRAINAGE ISSUES, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ABLC CAN START LOOKING AT AS WELL AS A COMPONENT, BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD FIT UNDER THAT, THAT HAT OF ABLC TO START ADDRESSING.

AND THIS IS JUST MY PHILOSOPHY, YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE PARKS HAVE A CERTAIN VALUE AND THEY BRING, YOU KNOW, A QUALITY OF LIFE STANDARD THAT I THINK PEOPLE LIKE AND ENJOY IN ANGLETON.

BUT THERE IS A DRAINAGE COMPONENT OF ABLC. AND IF THE ROAD ENCOMPASSES DRAINAGE, I THINK THERE COULD BE A PROJECT FOR ABLC TO LOOK INTO BONDING, AND I KNOW THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR OWN.

YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND TO PULL FROM. SO ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND TRY TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, AS THIS GENTLEMAN STATES, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE THEIR WHOLE LIVES BATTLING THIS ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, SOMETIMES HE HAS TO STEP INTO THE PLACE AND MAKE A TEXIAN TRAIL WAS THE ONE AND ONLY FIRST ONE.

IT'S THE FIRST. BUT WE'RE BUT WE'RE BUT THAT'S THE OPENING THE DOOR TO MORE ABLC FOR I KNOW, BUT I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THERE FOR TWO, SO. JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN SARTIN HAD TALKED ABOUT IS, IS PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA, SPECIFICALLY ON ARCOLA.

THE COUNTY HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST TO HELPING US IF WE CAN GET ANOTHER PARTY, WHICH IS TEXDOT.

WHEN WE DID THE DRAINAGE STUDY, WE TOOK THE DRAINAGE STUDY AND TOOK A LOOK AT HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT WATER OUT OF THERE.

WE HAVE TO CROSS 35. I REMEMBER THIS, AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF 35, THAT IS THE PART THAT THEY FLOOD TREMENDOUSLY.

THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL DRAINAGE STUDIES AND COULD NOT FIND AN ANSWER. WE PROVIDED THEM AN ANSWER HOW TO SOLVE IT.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE CITY, PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY, AND FIXING THE DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO FIX THE DOWNTOWN IF YOU WANT A CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER, IF YOU IF YOU CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER IT.

NOW WHEN YOU CONCRETE CURB AND STUFF YOU, YOU LOWER THE ROAD TO WHERE THE WATER STAYS IN THE ROAD.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO, LOOK HOW HIGH THE ASPHALT ROAD IS COMPARED TO THE CURBS.

THAT'S. SO EVERYBODY DRIVES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WHEN THE DOWNTOWN FLOODS AND IT SLOWLY METERS OUT.

BUT THERE IS, THERE IS. DIDN'T YOU SAY, THOUGH, THAT THE CONDUIT UNDERNEATH THERE IS REALLY CLOSE TO THE ROAD SURFACE.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE CONDUIT, VERY, VERY LITTLE CONDUIT.

IT MOSTLY JUST SHEET FLOWS DOWN. AND THEN RIGHT BY THE CHURCH, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE VERY SHALLOW, LIKE 18 INCH, 12 INCH PIPE THAT GOES THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.

SO IT'S VERY SHALLOW. BUT LIKE I SAID WITH THE WITH THE STUDY THAT WE DID AND WE STILL TALK TO TEXTILE ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.

AND MATT AND KAREN AT THE COUNTY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB EVERY TIME THEY MEET WITH TEXDOT.

ASK THEM ABOUT THAT TOO, BECAUSE THEY WANT SOME DRAINAGE RELIEF FOR THE COURTHOUSE.

THEY JUST BUILT THAT COURTHOUSE. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF ONE OF OUR ALLIES.

YEAH. ON THIS, ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE. IT'S JUST TEXTILE RIGHT NOW, THE IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW, TEXDOT HAS KIND OF SLOWED TO A CRAWL. A LOT OF THEIR PROJECTS JUST DUE TO FUNDING SOURCES RIGHT NOW.

SO DIDN'T THEY JUST GET A LOT MORE MONEY FROM THE LATEST.

EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH SLOWED DOWN TO A CRAWL RIGHT NOW ON PROJECT WISE.

[02:45:04]

SO BUT LIKE I SAID, MATT AND KAREN ARE DOING A GREAT JOB ADVOCATING FOR US, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE A PARTNER.

THEY KNOW THAT THAT IF WE DO DO THAT, THAT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY POTENTIALLY WOULD HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE IT DOES HELP THEM.

SO THAT WOULD BE THREE PARTNERSHIP RIGHT THERE.

THE PROBLEM WITH ANGLETON IS YOU DON'T HAVE AND NOT A PROBLEM.

THANKFULLY YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FLOODING AND STRUCTURES.

BUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE FLOODING AND STRUCTURES, YOU CAN'T GET A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO GO OUT AND GET GRANTS FOR GRANTS.

SO LUCKILY YOU DON'T HAVE IT, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS.

I BELIEVE THAT ONE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, WAS A 12 OR $15 MILLION PROJECT.

SO NOW WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, PROBABLY CLOSER TO $20 MILLION PROJECT.

OH WELL, MY PARTNER UP, YOU KNOW. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING.

AND WE HAVE WE'RE DOING QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH TEXDOT NOW.

THAT OUGHT TO BE COMING UP AGAIN. FEBRUARY. YES.

FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY 3RD. YOU KNOW, I MEAN.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT. I'M JUST GONNA KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO BITE YOUR LIP SOMETIMES.

OH, I DON'T DO IT ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS TO FIX ROADS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH SO FAR BEHIND EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY PAVING TWO MILES EVERY YEAR.

IF WE GET TWO MILES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF MILL.

YEP. AND COMPLETE ROAD BASE REPAIR, BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING SO LONG TO FIX ROADS THAT THE BASE IS GONE.

SO HERE WE ARE, BASICALLY A MILE A YEAR CONTIGUOUS ROADS, AND WE HAVE ALL THESE OUTLIER ROADS THAT NEED ATTENTION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THEM SOMEHOW. I MEAN, THE ONES I GET THE MOST COMPLAINTS ABOUT IS OF COURSE, LUKE IN THE FRONT ROW. HE TALKS TO ME ABOUT HIS ROAD ALL THE TIME, WHICH I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH. THIS IS, THIS IS THE PROCESS. RAVEN RIDGE, RICHLAND CIRCLE.

YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT. I'VE HAD OTHER PEOPLE APPROACH ME ABOUT IT. GIFFORD LANE AND GIFFORD ROAD, OF COURSE. I ALWAYS GET HENDERSON NUMBER ONE, ALWAYS WESTERN AVENUE.

LATELY IT'S BEEN LOCUST STREET FROM IN FRONT OF CENTRAL ELEMENTARY.

THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT? I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.

WHAT? THAT WHAT IS THE AREA FOR THAT LOCUST STREET IS THAT FROM ARCOLA TO ANDERSON, OR IS IT? I BELIEVE IT WENT ALL THE WAY TO ROCK ISLAND. IT'S ROCK ISLAND. YEAH, ROCK. ROCK ISLAND. YES. OKAY.

AND WE'RE TAKING CARE OF ANDERSON WAS IN THAT LAST.

WELL, THE PREVIOUS OVERLAY LIST FROM FY 25 THAT'S TAKING CARE OF ANDERSON FROM LOCUST ALL THE WAY BACK TOWARDS MORGAN STREET, I THINK. OKAY. AND THEN. SO LOCUST IS WHERE'S LOCUST? BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ONE ON OUR OVERLAY LIST.

RIGHT. THIS SIDE. YEAH. ANDERSON. YES. NOT LOCUST.

NO. LOCUST. THIS YEAR IT'S IT'S NO ARCOLA. ARCOLA.

DIDN'T YOU SAY PART OF ARCOLA IS BEING DONE THIS YEAR? NO, BECAUSE WE ENDED UP GOING WITH WESTERN AVENUE AND HENDERSON ROAD GOING FROM WESTERN AND FROM BUCHTEL ALL THE WAY DOWN.

THAT'S MY LIST. IT ALMOST SEEMS TO ME. AND OF COURSE, JUST SO THOSE THAT KNOW I AM FOLLOWING ALONG THE FACEBOOK POST. SO I DO SEE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN TONIGHT ON THEIR ROADS.

AND ONE OF THEM THAT ALWAYS GETS BROUGHT UP IS THE HOA PRESIDENT AND RANCHO WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT SPANISH TRACE WHERE THAT ROAD IS FALLING IN.

YEP. BUT THAT'S ALSO A DRAINAGE REPAIR. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO SOMETHING LIKE WE DID IN THE HOSPITAL DOWNING AREA. YOU KNOW, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S 1 OR 2 OR SEVERAL PANELS, YOU KNOW, TEARING THOSE OUT, REPAIRING WHAT'S UNDER IT, PUTTING THEM BACK IN. AND THEN YOU'RE GOOD. AND YOU ALSO, YOU KNOW, BUY SOME MORE TIME ON THAT ROADWAY AS WELL, IF THAT'S THE ONLY SECTION THAT'S FAILING.

BUT IT IS FAILING. YES. AND IT'S FALLING IN. AND THERE'S SOME AREAS, I THINK, ON SARITA AND ANOTHER AREA IN RANCHO THAT ARE GETTING PRETTY BAD AND CROSSING AND. YEP. HOW DO WE STRETCH $130,000? IT ALMOST SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE NEED TO BRING A STREET COMMITTEE BACK.

[02:50:07]

THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT WAS WHEN THEY FUNDED A BOND PROJECT.

CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS YOU'RE LITERALLY JUST PICKING ONE.

AND IT'S IT'S IT'S IT CAN'T EVEN NECESSARILY BE THE HONESTLY THE MOST NEEDED ONE BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD, NOT WHAT YOU CAN. NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I ALWAYS WANT TO BE CAREFUL. AND THIS IS MY OPINION.

PASSING THINGS TO A COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE TO ME, YOU'RE ABDICATING RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'M NOT ADVOCATE.

I'M JUST WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TO GET MORE BUY IN FROM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT FROM A REALISTIC, REALISTIC STANDPOINT THAT LIMITED FUNDS A LOT OF ROADS.

WHAT CAN WE DO? THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS NOTHING.

SO WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. SO THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE.

HOW MUCH DO THE PANEL REPLACEMENT COST. WE KNOW THAT'S A BIG BANG BECAUSE IT'S CONCRETE.

THAT'S REALLY ALL. I THINK HE CAN SOLICIT ON THIS.

IF YOU GO BY THE HIGHEST USAGE CONCRETE THE PANEL REPLACEMENTS.

HOW MUCH ARE THOSE PANEL REPLACEMENTS? I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, OR SOME OF THEM $1 MILLION.

ANOTHER ONE IS AND 103. SO WITH THIS 138,000, I BELIEVE WHEN WE DID PREVIOUSLY WE HAD DONE A SOUTH BELL STREET AND WE HAD DONE A PLANTATION AREA.

EACH ONE OF THOSE WAS RANGING ANYWHERE FROM LIKE 40, $75,000 IN THAT AREA.

THE HOSPITAL, DOWNING AREA, I HAD INCLUDED THIS ONE IN HERE JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

BUT THAT ENTIRE AREA WE DID, WHICH WAS A PRETTY GOOD SIZED PROJECT, WAS $177,000.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR FOR US TO TAKE THIS FUNDING AND JUST GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PANEL REPLACEMENTS AND JUST TRYING TO GET SOME PROJECTS WORKED THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, AND EVEN HDR CAN ASSIST US WITH THAT, TOO, FOR A PRETTY MINIMAL COST, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO SURVEY AND ALL THAT. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS GETTING SOME AERIAL SHOTS, GETTING SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE ON REPLACEMENT AND JUST GETTING A BIT OUT, AND DETAILS AND AERIAL SHOTS AND SPRAY PAINT SO YOU'VE GOT CANON AND VALDERICE ON HERE.

IS THAT JUST ONE PANEL? YES. RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF YOUR IF YOU'RE PULLING UP ON CANON, PULLING UP ON VALDERAS AND YOU GO TO TURN RIGHT RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A FAILING PANEL THERE.

OKAY. I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT'S HEAVY TRAFFIC. YES.

AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION AS A WHOLE, THERE'S REALLY NOT ANY OTHER MAJOR ISSUES THERE EXCEPT THAT ONE FAILING PANEL. SO WHEN I SEE AREAS LIKE THAT, IT'S LIKE, WE FIX THIS ONE PANEL.

WELL, WE'VE JUST KIND OF BOUGHT THAT ENTIRE AREA SOME TIME FOR A FULL HAVING TO GO IN AND DO A FULL REPLACEMENT VERSUS YOU LEAVE IT SLOWLY DETERIORATE, START, YOU KNOW, GETTING, GETTING EATEN AWAY AT THAT BASE AND THEN YOU START RUINING, KIND OF SPREADING, YOU KNOW, START RUINING MORE OF THAT ROADWAY.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE JUST TRY TO KNOCK OUT SOME OF THESE PANEL REPLACEMENTS. WITH THIS 138,000, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH OF THESE OTHER ROADS DONE. IT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THESE ROADS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT DONE WITH THAT. WHAT WAS OUR BID AGAIN FROM THE COMPANY WE GOT LAST YEAR FROM GIFFORD LANE TO DO JUST AN OVERLAY.

JUST JUST TO GO IN AND JUST BUILD DOWN THE TWO INCHES AND PUT OVERLAY ON IT.

IT WAS ABOUT HALF OF THAT COST ABOUT 300,325, I BELIEVE, SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA.

WE JUST DID A MILL AND OVERLAY PROJECT, RIGHT ABOUT 30, $34 SQUARE YARDS IN THE OVERLAY WITH NO BASE REPAIRS. IT'S JUST PICKED UP THE. YEAH. ONE OF THESE PLANTATION AND NARITA.

WERE THEY ALL THE SAME BUILDER OR IS IT DRAINAGE? IS IT? WELL, I KNOW WHEN WE WENT AND DID NARITA I BELIEVE THAT WAS, IT WAS A, AN OLDER PLACE THAT MOST OF THAT INTERSECTION. BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE, THERE WASN'T ALL THE DRAINAGE PIPE UNDER THERE THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED.

IT WAS JUST A SEPARATION FROM AN INLET, I BELIEVE.

SO IT WAS A PRETTY SIMPLE REPAIR. VERSUS WHEN WE GOT TO HOSPITAL DRIVE.

WE HAD SANITARY SEWER ISSUE, WE HAD DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT ALL THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED UNDER THERE.

SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THIS PLANTATION IN NARITA WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU JUST DID ON NARITA? I BELIEVE SO, YES. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING UNDER THERE THAT'S CAUSING THAT,

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OKAY. SO ALL THE SOIL IN AND CREATED A VOID. AND THE PAVEMENT STARTED FAILING BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SUPPORT.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S NOT DRAINAGE AS A WHOLE IN THE WHOLE AREA.

THE WHOLE STREET. IT SHOULDN'T BE. NO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DID, THE ENTIRE STREET WOULD BE FALLEN.

YES. YES. IT SHOULD JUST BE CERTAIN SECTIONS.

OKAY. SO WHEN YOU HAVE ON HERE PANEL IS A PANEL OF CERTAIN SIZE LIKE AN ACRE A MILE.

IT'S JUST FROM JOINT TO JOINT, RIGHT? THEY HAVE THESE HALF OF ROAD 60 FOOT.

YEAH. OKAY. HOW WIDE CAN THE PATCHER GO? SO, ACTUALLY.

WELL, I ACTUALLY JUST GOT THE PATCHER PICKED UP TODAY.

WE'RE GOING TO GET. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET TRAINING ON IT THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 9TH.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL START WE'LL START DEPLOYING IT.

WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF IT? I BELIEVE IT, I BELIEVE THE WIDTH OF IT IS LIKE 3.5FT IS WHAT THE WIDTH OF THAT BOX IS IN THE BACK.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE PLAN ON DOING SOME PILOT, YOU KNOW, IN SOME AREAS AND SEE, LIKE, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE US TO PAVE AN ENTIRE LANE OR A SECTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO. WE CAN START RICHLAND CIRCLE, FOR INSTANCE, OTHER AREAS LIKE THAT.

BUT THE THING ABOUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MILLING AND REPAIRING THE BASE, RIGHT? SO YOU KIND OF END UP WITH THE SAME RESULT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

I MEAN, WE MIGHT BUY SOME TIME. THEY MIGHT HAVE A SMOOTH ROADWAY FOR A FEW MONTHS, SIX MONTHS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HARD TO TELL BECAUSE THE BASE IS JUST GONE.

DO YOU HAVE A TOP TEN HITS OF POTHOLES THAT YOU WANT TO DO FIRST? YES. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD LIST OF THEM OF ONES THAT WE CONSTANTLY GO BACK TO.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST SMALLER AREAS, BUT WE JUST CONSTANTLY GO BACK TO THEM.

IS THAT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SET YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE NEW PAPER? THOSE ARE SOME AREAS WE WANT TO START OUT WITH JUST TO GET LIKE, YOU KNOW, GET TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE MACHINE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'LL TRY TO ACTUALLY REPAIR A ROADWAY OR, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, ALSO, I KNOW, LIKE, WE MIGHT BE MAKING SOME REPAIRS IN THE PARKING LOT, THOSE KIND OF THOSE KIND OF AREAS. YEAH. SO. BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO TEST THE LIMITS OF IT AND SEE HOW FAST WE CAN MOVE WITH IT, SEE IF IT'S EVEN FEASIBLE FOR US TO ATTEMPT TO DO A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, JUST PAVE OVER A WHOLE ROADWAY OR NOT.

CAN YOU DO WAYNE STREET ON THAT? YEAH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A PLAN OF OURS, TOO, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TORE OUT THE REST OF THE ASPHALT, JUST LAID SOME GRAVEL DOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CHECK ON THE THE STATE OF THAT FIRST AND THEN GO IN AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME ASPHALT ON TOP OF THAT.

I REALLY WISH SUSIE WAS HERE. I NEED TO KNOW HOW SOON WE CAN GO OUT FOR ANOTHER STREET BOND.

AND SEE HOW QUICK SHE. SHE ANSWERS THAT. I KNOW SHE'S LISTENING.

SHE'S LISTENING? SURE. YEAH. SHE PUT HER HAMMER ON HERE FOR HECTOR.

YIKES. I MEAN. I DON'T SAY IT JOKINGLY. I'M BEING SERIOUS THAT WE HAVE TO.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY OF GOING OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND, AT LEAST IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

WE CAN'T WE CAN'T KEEP AT THIS PACE THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS ALL THROUGH THE TOWN AND WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN ROAD CREW, WHICH IS CONTINUING TO, TO LIMIT US.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PANEL REPLACEMENTS AND USE THE MONEY FOR THAT.

BUT WE'RE NOT FIXING THE AREAS OF TOWN THAT REALLY NEED THE ATTENTION.

YEAH. OR OR WE JUST HOLD ON TO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET TO THE MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE OF SALES TAX IS SUPPOSED TO EQUATE TO AT THE END OF THE YEAR. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE COUPLED WITH THIS, MAYBE THEN YOU CAN GO TACKLE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, LARGER OR ONE OF THESE MORE NEEDED AREAS. BUT THAT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WANTING TO GET PROJECTS DONE.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES WE'RE GOING TO GET DONE WITH THAT AMOUNT. OKAY.

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WE REDID RIDGECREST IN FRONT OF NORTHSIDE. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ALL THE SCHOOL AREAS.

CENTRAL CONTINUES TO NOT BE FIXED. AND I, I'M FEELING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT GOES WITH MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND'S IDEA OF DOWNTOWN, BUT IT IT'S DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. MAYOR, I SENT YOU A RESPONSE, AND YOU CAN READ THAT WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT. I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. SHE'S RIGHT.

OH, NO. OH, NO. NO. IT'S A DISCUSSION THAT SHE AND I HAVE HAD MANY TIMES. I. CAN'T UNDO THE PAST. YOU GOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH. SO WE'VE WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY OF GOING FORWARD.

WHAT WOULD IT. I KNOW THIS IS JUST ANOTHER. SUSIE'S PROBABLY GOING TO SCREAM AT ME NOW, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, ON ROAD CREW AND HOW MUCH THAT WOULD ADD TO THE TAX RATE.

WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT BETWEEN THE CAPITAL AND THE PEOPLE AND ALL OF IT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DO IT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE NUMBERS.

YEAH. LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. I MEAN, IF IF YOU HAD TO GO TO THE CITIZENS AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE ROADS FIXED, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, AND WE'RE GOING TO HIRE OUR OWN ROAD CREW.

AND SOMETHING WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT, TOO IS JUST, YOU KNOW, HIRING A ROAD CREW.

GREAT IDEA. BUT THAT'S ALSO ONE ROAD CREW THAT CAN ONLY MOVE SO FAST.

CORRECT. SO THEN AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY STILL NOT YIELD THE RESULTS WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, HOW FAST WE CAN GET THESE DONE. SO THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SECOND ROAD CREW POSSIBLY THIRD ROAD CREW.

IF YOU'RE GETTING INTO ALL THAT YOU'RE STILL USING CONTRACT LABOR. AND WHAT WHAT I, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT ONE ROAD CREW AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE INCREMENTALLY TO THE TAX RATE. SO I WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN TO THE TAX RATE.

WHAT TYPE OF ROAD CREW DO YOU WANT AS ASPHALT? IS THERE SPECIALIZED ASPHALT? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ASPHALT.

ALL RIGHT. I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, JOHN.

I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASSEMBLE IT AND DO IT, I MEAN, IN A IN A MANNER OF SPEAKING, THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY TO DO THE CONCRETE WORK IS NOT AS INTENSIVE AS THE ASPHALT.

AND YOU GET A BETTER END RESULT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE DOING ASPHALT, YOU'RE HAVING TO HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND A PORTION OF IT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO OWN, YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY RENT IT. SAID ASPHALT IS YOU GOT TO HAVE AN ARTIST.

YEAH. YOU KNOW CONCRETE. YOU CAN HAVE CREWS GO OUT THERE AND WARM IT UP OR BOARD IT.

IT'S DONE. BUT ASPHALT, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. MOST OF THE ROADS FAILING AND ANGLETON ARE ASPHALT.

IF WE WERE TO GO FROM ASPHALT TO CONCRETE IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ENGINEERING WORK.

GO A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF MONEY. RIGHT? BOTH ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT. BUT THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. THERE'S VERY FEW ASPHALT COMPANIES LEFT THAT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER LOCAL TOWNS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT CREWS AND EQUIPMENT? WELL, IT'S ALMOST PREDOMINANTLY NOT NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT. DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TAKE A LOOK.

I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. I'D RATHER. I WANT TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF HOW HOW IT AFFECT THE TAX RATE.

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BUT WE NEED MORE ROADS. YEAH. I MEAN, HONESTLY, THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOT TO BE.

BUT THE COUNTY IS LIMITING US ON WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE. WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING BECAUSE I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CHIME IN ON THAT AS WELL. AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS THE COUNTY SEAT AND THE INFLUX OF OF TRAFFIC THAT WE GET WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CITY. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE AMOUNT OF, OF OVERLAY AND SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM THE COUNTY IS INADEQUATE.

AND I'M NOT DOGGING THE COUNTY OUT, BUT I THINK THAT AS THE COUNTY SEAT, WE NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND PRIORITY.

AND IF THAT MEANS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH THE DIFFERENT PRECINCTS AND HOW THAT'S WORKING OUT, BUT I JUST THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE ALL HANDS ON DECK.

AND I'M NOT TAKING A STAB AT ANYBODY. IT'S THIS IS I MEAN, IT'S A CALL FOR FOR HELP AND COLLABORATION.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO GET OUR WE HAVE TO GET OUR STREET FUND UP TO SNUFF TO WHERE WE CAN GO OUT FOR MORE DEBT SERVICE PROJECTS ON, ON THESE ROADS. EVEN DOING OVERLAYS ISN'T GOING TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

THERE'S JUST A THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN ANGLETON RIGHT NOW IS OUR STREETS, WHICH WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR HOW LONG? NO, JUST 2017. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T MEAN IT, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK THE WORDS YOU USED, THESE ARE BIG ISSUES RIGHT NOW. I WOULD PROBABLY ARGUE IT'S BEEN ISSUES FOR A WHILE, BUT.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT DOGGING ON THE COUNTY AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEY, THEY NEED TO BE OUT HERE.

AND NO OFFENSE, BUT THEY NEED TO BE OUT HERE PRIORITIZING, YOU KNOW RICHLAND CIRCLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THAT ANY ROAD THAT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, AND ESPECIALLY ONE THAT'S ADJACENT TO A COUNTY FACILITY, NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED BY THE COUNTY. YOU GOT A NEW COUNTY JUDGE COMING IN THAT NOW'S THE TIME TO TO HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE.

CAMPAIGN PROMISES. PROMISES MADE. PROMISES. WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS PROMISES. OKAY, WE'VE REALLY BEAT THIS ONE TO DEATH.

ANY. WHAT'S YOUR ACTION? COUNCIL. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE PANEL REPLACEMENTS? DO YOU WANT TO FIND SOME ALTERNATIVE TO DO BOTH? I THINK I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SUZY.

YES. BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE WE MIGHT.

MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS IF WE WANT TO GO A PANEL REPLACEMENTS, WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, START WORKING ON THAT, THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH SOME SORT OF BIGGER OTHER, YOU KNOW, ROAD REPLACEMENT, THAT'S A BIGGER INVESTMENT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE PLANS, RIGHT. YEAH, BECAUSE YOU COULD PROBABLY BUDGET A PANEL REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

RIGHT? WE CAN TRY, BUT WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET WE HAVE LIKE THIS FISCAL YEAR.

NO. IN PREVIOUS YEARS POSSIBLY. BUT EVENTUALLY WE COULD WORK TO DO.

YES. ONCE WE GET BACK BACK UP TO WHERE WE WERE WORKING, WE'RE GETTING THERE.

WE'RE WORKING TO THAT EVENTUALLY. BUT WE HAVE BIGGER NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO THEM. SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST WAIT.

AND I'M WITH THAT. I SAY, I SAY WE TABLE THIS UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS WHAT OUR RESOURCES ARE WITH FINANCE.

I KNOW IN THEORY WE'RE SAVING MONEY, BUT LET'S JUST SEE IF WE ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY.

YEAH. CHANGE ORDERS. COME IN. WE'LL SEE. OKAY.

WELL, LUKE, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'VE YOU'VE BEEN HARD. I LOOKED I LOOKED YOU RIGHT UP ON ON THE MAPS.

YEAH. I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 20. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

[20. Discussion and possible action on a proposal to amend the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 9, Garbage and Refuse Collection Rates. ]

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TRASH. WE GOT MATT HERE FROM WASTE CONNECTIONS. THIS IS OUR SCHEDULE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A

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THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M ANTHONY, AND WE'RE GOING TO SUSIE.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS THAT SHE HAS, BUT SHE'S STILL HERE, AS YOU ALL SEEN.

SO JUST TO MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET PORTION, I'M PRESENTING HERE.

WE LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE I GAVE YOU ALL. WHICH IS THAT RIGHT THERE ON YOUR SHEET IS GOING TO BE EXHIBIT B, SO IT'LL BE THE SECOND PAGE. IT'S THE COST INCREASE OR THE CHANGE OF GOING FROM A TWO WEEK PICKUP TO A ONE WEEK PICKUP WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS, AND THEN THE EXHIBIT B ALSO THAT THAT SLIDE UP THERE IS SHOWING WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING US, THE CITY BEFORE WE HAVE ANY PASS THROUGH COSTS FOR THE RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S ALL THE SCHEDULE HERE FOR LIKE THE THE ONE ONE ONCE A WEEK PICKUP THE FIRST CONTAINER ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS AMOUNTS FOR THAT THEN ALSO AMOUNTS FOR THE BIGGER COMMERCIAL TYPE TRASH. AND IF WE GO OVER TO EXHIBIT A, THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT WE WOULD PASS ON THROUGH THE RESIDENT.

AND SO ANY ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS HOW THAT HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK, WHAT'S GOING TO WORK.

WASTE CONNECTIONS CAN ANSWER THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW WE GOT THE NUMBERS THAT WE PASSED TO THE CUSTOMER? THAT'S A REAL SIMPLE. WE TAKE WE TAKE THE CHARGE THAT WASTE CONNECTIONS CHARGING US.

WE TIMES IT BY 1.05, WHICH GIVES US A 5% FRANCHISE FEES.

AND THEN WE ADD THE $2 ON TOP OF THAT. AND THAT $2 IS JUST TO SUPPLEMENT OUR SERVICES FOR THE BUILDINGS, THE PHONE CALLS AND THINGS IT TAKES TO KEEP THAT UP AND RUNNING.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT FOR ME? SO I KNOW WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST WITH THOSE CONNECTIONS AND THE MAYOR, SO HE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE UP TO SPEED ON THAT.

BUT THE WASTE CONNECTIONS, THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT.

MISS SIMMONS, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE PRICING.

DID YOU GET YOUR ANSWERS YOU WERE AFTER? BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SAY IT OUT LOUD.

SO IN THE VERY FIRST BOX ON BOTH PAGES, BOTH EXAMPLES.

THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE SEE THE RESIDENTIAL RATES.

CORRECT? CORRECT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS COMMERCIAL.

INDUSTRIAL. CORRECT. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S ALSO RIGHT UNDERNEATH BEFORE LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT A OR B YOU SEE THE CHARGE THAT RESIDENTIAL MONTHLY COST.

THE ONLY OTHER PORTION THAT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE THE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

ADDITIONAL CART SERVICE, $9.45. THAT'S IF THEY WANTED A SECOND CART.

SO THEY CAN HAVE THEY CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE CART.

CURRENTLY THEY HAVE. WELL, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE USING TWO CARS FOR THE RECYCLE KIND OF AS TRASH.

SO WE DO WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO HAVE THE SECOND CAR AT A REDUCED RATE.

BUT ISN'T THE SECOND CART ISN'T THE SECOND GREEN RECYCLING CART TRASH ANYWAY? THAT'S KIND OF A I MEAN, LET'S LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

YEAH. IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE THAT PICTURE I'VE SEEN WHERE THEY GOT STICKS HIS HAND INTO, LIKE, TRASH AND RECYCLING, AND IT'S THE SAME GARBAGE SACK.

SAME THING. AND THAT CREATES AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR US WHEN THEY GO TO THE DROP THE TRASH OFF AT THE RECYCLING CENTER.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THEY GO BY A CERTAIN PERCENT CONTAMINATED, AND IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEN THEY TREAT IT AS REGULAR TRASH AND THEY'RE CHARGED MORE FOR IT.

BUT BUT BUT BUT IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THE THAT THE RECYCLING WAS GOING TO THE LANDFILL ANYWAY.

NO. IT'S GOING TO A DOCK IN HOUSTON. CORRECT.

FIVE TRUCKS. FIVE RECYCLING TRUCKS ONCE A WEEK.

ALL YOU DO IS DROP IT AT THE DOCK YOU TAKE IT TO.

WE TAKE IT TO THE FCC AND YOU DROP IT. YEAH. YOU DON'T GO.

THIS IS STYROFOAM. THIS IS CARDBOARD. CORRECT.

THE CENTER SEPARATES EVERYTHING. THEY HAVE A.

SO WE PAY A PRICE. NOBODY COMES BACK AND GOES, OH, WE FOUND A PERCENTAGE OF CARDBOARD.

HERE'S YOUR REDUCED RATE. NO. OKAY. MINE'S. MINE'S CLEAN.

RECYCLED. SO THE BIGGEST ISSUE ON RECYCLING. AND, AND THE MAYOR HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT

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REALLY? THE MARKET'S BEEN GONE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW.

RIGHT. CHINA IS PRETTY MUCH ALL RECYCLED FROM US.

THEY'RE ONLY TAKING THEIR RECYCLE NOW. THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF FACILITIES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT CAN HANDLE PROCESSING.

RECYCLE. SO MOST RECYCLING FACILITIES, A LOT OF THEM HAVE CLOSED DOWN.

THE ONES THAT ARE OPEN ARE THEY'RE LOOKING AT 95 TO 99% UNCONTAMINATED RECYCLE.

THEY BUY IT FROM SELECT LOCATIONS. YOU CAN'T JUST WALK IN THERE AND GO, HI.

YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT. AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS EVEN THOUGH THEY DO CHARGE US A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL FEE FOR CONTAMINATED CYCLE BECAUSE THEY GOT TO PICK IT UP OFF THE FLOOR, SHOVE IT BACK INTO A 18 WHEELER AND TAKE IT DOWN TO THE LANDFILL AND PAY THAT DUMPING FEE.

SO THEY GOT TO INCUR A LOT OF COSTS DOING THAT.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS YOU TAKE ENOUGH CONTAMINATED LOADS TO THE RECYCLING CENTER, THEY'RE GOING TO KICK YOU OUT OF THE RECYCLING CENTER BECAUSE THEY DON'T THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO MAKE PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD PENNY OFF OF IT.

AND. DO WE THINK THAT THE FIVE TRUCKS THAT YOU DROP AT THE DOCK, THEY'RE ALL PURE, PRISTINE? NO. SO IN ORDER BECAUSE AGAIN, FCC IS THE ONLY FACILITY AND THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOUSTON OF 610.

AND IF THEY IF THEY KICK US OUT, WE HAVE NO PLACE TO TAKE THE RECYCLE.

SO THEY HAVEN'T KICKED US OUT. SO DO WE. THEY ASSUME WE'RE DROPPING REALLY CLEAN, PRETTY CARDBOARD, AND. NO, THEY GIVE US THEY GIVE US WARNINGS PRETTY CONSISTENTLY ON ON WHEN WHO.

I'M SORRY, BUT WHO GOES THROUGH THE AND MAKES A DETERMINATION ON Y'ALL'S END WHICH LOAD IS GOING TO GO TO THE RECYCLING VERSUS WHAT WE CAN ALREADY TELL IS CONTAMINATED.

OUR DRIVERS ARE WE HAVE CAMERAS ON THE TRUCK THAT MONITOR THE HOPPER OF THE TRUCK SO THEY CAN THEY'RE WATCHING IT.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE FINDING THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF LOADS ARE CONTAINED.

YEAH. AND ONCE YOU'RE EVEN IF YOU'RE A DRIVER SITTING THERE AS THE FIRST THING IN THE TRUCK, IT'S CONTAMINATED THE WHOLE LOAD.

YEAH. ONCE YOU CONTAMINATED IT, WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE RECYCLING CENTER BECAUSE IT IS A CLEAN LOAD.

IT'S IT'S THEY DON'T PAY US ANY MONEY, BUT THEY DON'T CHARGE US ANY MONEY WHEN WE TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL.

WE'RE PAYING TONNAGE FEES ON THAT. YEAH. OKAY, SO WE'VE ONLY GOTTEN WARNINGS SO FAR.

YES. AND IF THEY KICK YOU OUT, THERE'S NO OTHER.

NO OTHER PLACE. WE'VE BEEN LUCKY. WHAT WAS IT? YEAH. RECYCLING CENTERS. I SEE. YEAH, THEY. THEY SHUT THEIR DOORS.

24. 23. AND FCC CAME IN. THEY'RE A FAIRLY NEW FACILITY IN HOUSTON.

IT'S REALLY A NICE FACILITY. BUT, YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE CAN TAKE IT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. SO ON THE FIRST PAGE, YOU'VE GOT THE CURRENT RATES, WHICH IS ONE BLUE TRUCK ON ONE DAY AND CART TWO CARTS BASICALLY. SO YOU'VE GOT ONE CART ON ONE DAY, A BLUE CART, ONE CART ON ANOTHER DAY A BLUE CART, AND THEN ONE GREEN RECYCLING CART. WHICH, WHICH WHICH PAGE? YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST CONTRACT. WHICH IS WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY.

YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S TWICE A WEEK SERVICE FOR TRASH.

YEAH. SO BLUE. BLUE GREEN. YEAH. ONCE A WEEK FOR RECYCLE.

AND THEN ALSO EVERY OTHER WEEK BRUSH THEM. ALL RIGHT.

SO ON THE SECOND PAGE EXHIBIT B NOW YOU WANT TO YOU'RE TAKING AWAY WHERE I'LL ONLY HAVE ONE BLUE CART.

AND THEN I CAN USE THE GREEN CART AT NO COST TO ME AS REGULAR TRASH.

NO THE GREEN CARD. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE CHANCE TO IF THEY WANT TO HAVE AN EXTRA CARD, THAT'S THE $9 FEE FOR THE EXTRA CART.

I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE CHARGING A $9 FEE.

IF THE CART ALREADY EXISTS. YOU'RE NOT. THERE'S NO MORE CAPITAL NEEDED.

YOU ALREADY OWN THE CART. THAT'S THE PART THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

IF WE HAD TO BUY MORE CARTS, THAT PRICE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.

BUT YOU WOULD, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM.

YEAH. YES. THAT'S THAT'S BUILT INTO THE PRICE RIGHT THERE.

YOU'RE COMING TO MY HOUSE THREE DAYS A WEEK NOW.

YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO COME ONE DAY A WEEK IN THE FUTURE, AND YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE ME ONE CARD.

SO IF YOU WERE DOING THIS AT YOUR HOUSE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?

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I HAVE A SERVICE, AND I PUT MY CARD OUT ONCE A WEEK.

OKAY. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE ME? AND YOU SAID YOU USED TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE THREE DAYS A WEEK AND THEY WERE COMING ONE.

I GET IT, IT IS, IT IS, IT IS A STICKER SHOCK.

BUT THE TWICE A WEEK SERVICE IS KIND OF GOING AWAY.

THE PRICE OF IT IS GETTING IS GETTING TOO HIGH FOR.

BUT WE DO HAVE IT FOR TWO MORE YEARS RIGHT. OKAY.

YEAH. OKAY. THE THING THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH IS THE WHOLE RECYCLING.

IF WE WERE TO TAKE RECYCLING AWAY, THAT'S $2.30.

YEAH. IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU'RE NOT TAKING THE FULL $2.30 AWAY RIGHT.

YEAH. THE RECYCLING THE RECYCLING FEE DOES NOT COVER THE ACTUAL COST TO US OF WHAT? RECYCLE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CITY'S FAULT. WE'RE PAYING $2.30 FOR RECYCLING.

IF WE DON'T GET THE SERVICE, WE SHOULD SEE $2.30 COME OFF THE BILL, NOT THE REDUCTION OF YOUR LOSSES, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE CAN HOLD YOU TO THE CONTRACT.

YOU CAN MAINTAIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF LOSING MONEY, OR YOU COULD TAKE IT OFF NOW AT THE FULL $2.30.

SAVE YOURSELF SOME MONEY AND SAVE THE RESIDENTS MONEY.

JUST YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY SAID THAT. SO I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE SWITCH, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF WHO HAS THE ADDITIONAL RECYCLING CART, HOW ARE WE GOING TO COLLECT THAT? AND PEOPLE CAN JUST GO AND HIDE THAT RECYCLE CART FOR A MONTH AND THEN PUT IT BACK OUT.

AND NOW WE'RE PICKING UP DOUBLE. WE'RE ONLY CHARGING THEM FOR A SINGLE.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE IF YOU WENT TO A SINGLE.

PICKUP, WOULDN'T YOU JUST EXPECT TO USE UTILIZE THE BLUE.

AND THAT IS AN OPTION. I MEAN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO PERMIT IF THEY HAVE THE QUOTE UNQUOTE EXTRA $9 GREEN CART, YOU SET OUT TWO TRASH CANS SIDE BY SIDE, KNOWING THAT THE GETS PICKED UP GETS PICKED UP, GUY PULLS UP ONE MORE FOOT AND ALL PLACE BACK AND THEN. SO I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE LOOKING FROM A FINANCIAL POINT OF VIEW AND THE UTILITY SIDE, JUST KEEPING TRACK OF ACTUALLY WHO ACTUALLY HAS TWO CARTS, WHO HAS ONE CART.

MATT WAS MENTIONING THAT IF THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T AGREE TO A SECOND CART, THEY WOULD HAVE PRETTY MUCH A CAR DRIVE BEHIND A DUMPSTER AND THEN PICK UP THE RECYCLE CART THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE AS A SECOND CART. I THINK WE GOT TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT. AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW WHO ACTUALLY PAID AND I HAVE AN IDEA.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL THEM HOW TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS, BUT.

YOU PAY A ONE TIME FEE TO PURCHASE THE SECOND THING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF WHO'S GOT WHO'S NOT.

IF YOU PAY FOR IT AND YOU STICK OUT TWO CARDS, THEN Y'ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT WE HAVE PAID WHOEVER THE HOMEOWNER HAS PAID FOR A SECOND CART.

IT'S A ONE TIME FEE ENCOMPASSED. WELL, IT REALLY HAS TO BE ALL OR NOTHING, THOUGH, CITYWIDE, BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. SO TO ME, IT'S EITHER THE AND YOU TELL ME IF I'M IF I'M NOT THINKING LOGICALLY HERE, BUT TO ME IT'S WE WE YOU KILL THE RECYCLING SERVICE, EVERYBODY GETS TWO BLUE CARTS.

AND THAT'S JUST IT. THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU THE NINE EXTRA DOLLARS FOR THE SECOND CART.

OH. DOESN'T MATTER. WELL I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T CARE BECAUSE I NEED TO HEAL.

I'LL TAKE THREE. AND EVEN RIGHT NOW, NOT EVER.

YOU ALREADY KEEP TRACK OF IT. NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THREE CARDS, RIGHT? BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN ALREADY GET AN EXTRA CARD.

SO THIS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM TO FIGURE OUT WHO HAS AN EXTRA CARD OR NOT.

REMEMBER, THE CITY BUILDS, THE CITY COLLECTS THE BILLS.

CORRECT. WASTE CONNECTIONS IS NOT. CITY DOES.

YES, CITY SHOWS THAT WE HAVE IT. WE KNOW IT. THE CITY TELLS US THIS.

THIS ADDRESS HAS TWO CARDS. WE PUT IT IN OUR SYSTEM SO THE DRIVER KNOWS.

EXACTLY. SO IF SOMEBODY IS PUTTING OUT TWO CARDS ALREADY MANAGED, THE DRIVER HAS THAT INFORMATION LIVE ON THIS TABLET WHERE HE'S NOT GOING TO PICK UP THREE CARDS. IF YOU PUT OUT THREE, IF YOU'RE ONLY PAYING FOR ONE. I THINK I WANT TWO DIFFERENT COLORS SO THEY COULD DESIGNATE ONE VERSUS TWO.

YOU PUT TWO BLUE ONES, SOMEBODY COULD JUST TRY TO HIDE ONE AS ONE.

I GOT ONE BLUE ONE. I DON'T KNOW. FOR THE MOST PART THE DRIVER DOES KEEP PRETTY GOOD TRACK OF THAT.

EVERY NOW AND THEN HE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GET THEM ON A GOOD DAY AND YOU MIGHT DUMP THAT EXTRA CAR, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, HE'S GOING TO FOLLOW WHAT'S ON HIS TABLET.

I JUST DON'T SEE US GOING FROM THREE CARDS A WEEK TO ONE AND CITIZENS GOING, OH YEAH, I DON'T NEED THAT SPACE.

IT'S A IT'S A, IT'S A IT'S A SCARY MOVE. I GET IT.

[03:25:05]

WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU GOES BACK TO, YOU GO TO THE OLD SCHOOL SO YOU'D HAVE A CART THAT WAS YOUR DUMPING CART, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE ALMOST LIKE A SECOND PERSONALLY PURCHASED TRASH CAN THAT YOU GOT FROM HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S TO HOLD IT WHILE YOUR OTHER CART IS FULL. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'D HAVE TO. THAT'S WHAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO.

AND HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST A MONTH TO NOT HAVE TO DO THAT? I KNOW, I'M JUST YEAH. I MEAN, ARE WE JUST KEEP THE SAME CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE NOW.

WELL, HERE'S THE THING. IF YOU COME IN ONCE A WEEK AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF YOU'RE GOING ONCE A WEEK, THEY'RE DRIVING THE SAME PATH.

SO WHETHER YOU PUT OUT 1 OR 2 CARTS, IT'S NOT REALLY COSTING YOU GUYS ANYTHING EXTRA.

RIGHT. I MEAN, AND THEY'RE SAYING THE DUMPING.

YEAH, IT'S JUST A LOAD. IT'S JUST A HEAVIER LOAD.

VEGAS. VEGAS BENEFITS. RETIREMENT, YOU GUYS. THE BIG, THE BIG.

THE BIG REASON CITIES MOVE TO TO ONCE A WEEK THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE LEARNED IS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH ITEM NUMBER 19 IS, IS, IS ROADS. YOU'RE NOT HAVING MULTIPLE TRUCKS TWICE A WEEK DRIVE DOWN THE SAME ROAD.

IT'S ON THE SAME PATH. IT DOES IT DOES HELP PREVENT THE DAMAGE TO THE THE OTHER BIG THING IS, YOU KNOW SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO PALESTINE, RIGHT.

THEY HAD THE SAME CONCERN OF THEY THOUGHT ABOUT 50% OF THEIR RESIDENTS WERE GOING TO NEED A SECOND CART AFTER IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, THEY AVERAGE ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 10 BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SECOND CAR DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T GET RID OF IT SIX MONTHS LATER.

YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT DURING THE HOLIDAYS, AND THEN THEY GET RID OF IT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

BUT THE BIG THING IS, IS YOU'RE EVERY RESIDENT IS KIND OF SUBSIDIZING THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE MORE TRACTION, RIGHT? IF YOU CAN FIT YOUR TRASH INTO 196 GALLON CAR, YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE NEIGHBOR WHO HAS THE EXTRA CART BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT SECOND DUMP, RIGHT? THAT SECOND SERVICE DAYS IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

SO IF IF IT WERE ME, THAT'S WHY I. I LIKE THE ONCE A WEEK SERVICE OPTION IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FAMILY OF THREE. SO IT'S, IT'S IT'S NOT AS MUCH TRASH AS MY NEIGHBOR UP THE STREET WHO HAS FAMILY OF SIX AND ALSO BRINGS SOME OF THEIR BUSINESS TRASH HOME, RIGHT? I'M NOT COVERING THE COSTS TO DISPOSE OF HIS TRASH.

I'M JUST COVERING THE COST OF MY TRASH COSTS.

WHAT? OKAY, WHAT'S THE IDEA OF JUST TWO TIMES.

AND NO RECYCLE. WHAT'S THE REAL EXPENSE SAVED THERE? IT'S JUST IT'S CUTTING OUT THE COST OF THE RECYCLE TRUCK.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THE RECYCLE $2.30 IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE EXACT RATE I QUOTED ON THE TWICE A WEEK WITHOUT RECYCLE, BUT IT WASN'T TAKING AWAY THE FULL 230. IT WAS ONLY A REDUCTION OF A WAS A DOLLAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH. DOLLAR AND SOME CHANGE. SO YOU WON'T EVEN SAVE THE FULL 230.

SO IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTRACT. I MEAN, DIDN'T YOU JUST LET THE CONTRACT WALK ALONG WITH THE IDEA THAT. START LOOKING INTO OR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TOWNHALL IT OR SOMETHING INTO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE NEXT TIME AROUND.

I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO START WORKING ON IT.

I AGREE. THAT'S WHAT MY POINT IS TO START. I IN IT, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE NO WORSE OFF BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SUDDENLY. I WERE IN THEIR POSITION.

I WOULDN'T BE IN A RUSH TO CHANGE OUR CONTRACT IN TERMS TO MAKE LESS MONEY, SO.

WELL, THEY WANT US TO UP ANOTHER FIVE YEARS WITH ANY CHANGES.

THEY SAID WITHIN TWO YEARS WE HAD TWO MORE YEARS.

WE CAN WAIT TWO YEARS AND FINISH THE CONTRACT.

OR WE COULD GO TO THE NEW SERVICE WITH A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

THREE YEARS TO THE CURRENT THREE YEARS. OKAY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING FIVE TO THE END OF THE TWO. OKAY, SO WE BEAT THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE COMMERCIAL IS NOW GOING. TO GO UP FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

YES, MA'AM. IT WOULD BE A 7% INCREASE AT THAT RATE.

SUSIE WAS SAYING IT'S KIND OF PUNISHING THEM FOR THE RESIDENTS.

YEAH. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS REALLY. SHE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS INCREASING THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL SO MUCH.

[03:30:01]

BASICALLY IT LEFT HAND, RIGHT HAND. EITHER WAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH OF A REDUCTION IN RATES FROM 2 TO 1 AND LOSING YOUR RECYCLING. YEAH. IT'S NOT DON'T EXPLAIN THIS.

EXPLAIN THIS $2 FIGURE THAT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT WITH THE RECYCLING.

AND I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF I, IF I FIRMLY GRASP THIS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THERE'S A SERVICE THAT THEY STOP PROVIDING, WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET BILLED FOR IT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE FULL REDUCTION OF IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO PICK IT UP. IT WOULD FLIP OVER TO THE TRASH SIDE WITH THE CHANGES.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR CYCLE IS IN RECYCLE.

WE'RE $25 A TON TO DUMP IT AT THE LANDFILL. THEY'RE MAKING SOME MONEY ON THE BACK END.

IF IT WAS 100% CLEAN RECYCLE THAT WE COULD TAKE TO THE RECYCLE FACILITY, THE RATE WOULD BE YOU'D HAVE A LOT BIGGER SAVINGS.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET A CLEAN TRUCK GOING TO THE RECYCLING FACILITY? ONCE EVERY BLUE MOON. AND IT'S SO, SO, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN.

YEAH, I MEAN IT'S VERY HARD. I THINK PFLUGERVILLE IS IS ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN TEXAS AS FAR AS RECYCLE PROGRAMS, AND EVEN THEM HAVE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CONTAMINATION.

I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HAD TO CLEAN OUR RECYCLING BIN OUT LIKE I DO THE GARBAGE CAN.

OURS IS SPOTLESS CLEAN, I KID YOU NOT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONE OF THE FEW THAT ACTUALLY SEPARATES EVERYTHING OUT.

AND EVEN EVEN CONTAMINATED HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE GOES IN THE TRASH.

I MEAN, YOU ALSO HAVE TO YOU'RE ALSO AT THE WHIM OF THE GUY WHO'S GRADING YOUR YOUR LOAD AT THE RECYCLE FACILITY, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU TAKE A LOAD AND TAKE THE EXACT SAME LOAD A WEEK LATER, NOW IT'S CONTAMINATED ALL OF A SUDDEN.

SO TO ME, YOU'RE LOSING MONEY ON THE RECYCLING.

YEAH. THE RECYCLING IS IS IS BASICALLY A SUNK COST AT THIS POINT.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THE RECYCLING THING IS EVEN A COMPONENT TO ANY OF THIS, BECAUSE THE THAT THAT TRASH ISN'T GOING TO GO AWAY.

NO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. BUT YOU'RE HAVING TO YOU'RE HAVING TO YOU'RE GETTING BASICALLY BACK CHARGED AT THE RECYCLING CENTER FOR HAULING OFF GARBAGE.

AM I AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? YES. PLUS DRIVING FURTHER TO HOUSTON TO DEAL WITH IT.

SO, SO. AND SENDING FIVE TRUCKS UP THERE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE FOR OUR VISIT.

YOU SAID YOU SENT FIVE TRUCKS UP THERE, AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S CONTAMINATED.

YEAH. SO, SO SO WE TAKE IT TO WHEN WE KNOW IT'S CONTAMINATED LOAD, WE TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL NOW.

SO YOU'RE ALREADY. SO YOU'RE ALREADY YOU'RE ALREADY DOING YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THIS.

AND IN SOME CASES, YOU'RE PAYING MORE MONEY TO DO IT BY TAKING AN ALTERNATE ROUTE TO NORTH HOUSTON AND GETTING BACK CHARGED FOR IT.

SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO FIGURE OUT A, A, A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM THAT WORKS FOR FOR YOU GUYS AND THE CITY. I DON'T THINK THIS IS IT. AND I KNOW WHAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON IS NOT IS NOT IT? NO. YES. I MEAN, THE MAYOR DID COME TO US AND ASK US TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PRICING AND HE'S HE'S HELD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THIS.

AND I MEAN, I'VE WE'VE WE'VE GONE BACK I'VE GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD MULTIPLE TIMES.

AND THIS IS OUR OUR BEST PRICING WE CAN OFFER.

I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE PAYING.

THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.

THIS IS LITERALLY THE SAME STORY THAT WAS TOLD TO US TWO YEARS AGO ON JANUARY 9TH, 2024.

AND AT THAT TIME, Y'ALL INCREASED OUR PRICE BY 12.9%.

AND THAT WAS TO COVER THE 6% CPI. AND THE EXTRA PERCENTAGE WAS TO COVER FUEL CHARGES BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE DRIVING OUR RECYCLING FURTHER OUT. OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD AN ALMOST 27% INCREASE IN OUR RATES WITH THEM.

AND I REMEMBER I REMEMBER THIS PRETTY WELL BECAUSE I WAS I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING, YOU KNOW, YEAH, COSTS OF EVERYTHING HAVE GONE UP. INFLATION THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

YOU'VE GOT COSTS THAT ARE BEING PASSED ON TO YOU.

AND I THINK THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD THAT AND WAS PRETTY WELL ON BOARD WITH WITH THAT INCREASE.

WE HAVE IT WRITTEN IN OUR CONTRACT THAT THEY GET AN ANNUAL INCREASE OR DECREASE NO MATTER WHAT YOU MEAN INCREASE.

[03:35:06]

I KNOW, AND THAT'S BEEN ON AVERAGE. LET'S SEE.

LET'S SEE. 2021 3.5% 2022 5.32%. THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN 2023. CAME BACK 2020 4TH DECEMBER 2024. 2.6. AND THEN THE NEXT MONTH IN JANUARY, 12.9.

AND THEN LAST YEAR, JANUARY 2025, 2.6. THEY GO OFF OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF THE CONSUMER RATE REPORT, CPI BUT MANVILLE'S CONTRACT HAS IT LISTED THAT THEY HAVE TO USE THE CPI FOR THE NEAREST METROPOLITAN AREA, WHICH IS ALWAYS LOWER THAN THE NATIONAL ONE THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY? CORRECT.

I. SAY THIS AS POLITELY AS I CAN. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS ARE APPLYING YOURSELVES.

I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHICH. I THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY, WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOSING IN THIS DEAL OR WHAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY BE MAKING, AS OPPOSED TO DUMPING THAT STUFF UP THERE AND MAYBE COME BACK WITH A WITH A LITTLE BIT BETTER PROPOSAL. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OPPORTUNITY HERE ON THIS ONE. I'M TELLING YOU, I'VE DONE I'VE DONE 6 OR 7 PERFORMERS ON THIS AND I'M, I'M FULLY CONFIDENT IN SAYING THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE ACCRUED FOR EVERY EXPENSE, EVERY SAVINGS WE CAN POSSIBLY DO.

AND I JUST I AND CONTINUING TO DRIVE TO HOUSTON AND THEN HAVING THESE REJECTED AND THEN GETTING BACK CHARGED IS A SUSTAINABLE SITUATION FOR YOU GUYS. WE'RE NOT DRIVING EVERY LOAD TO HOUSTON ANYMORE BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BE KICKED OUT.

SO NOW WE'RE JUST EATING THE COST AND DUMPING AT THE LANDFILL IF WE IF WE THINK IT'S CONTAMINATED.

SO JUST SO HOLD ON. DOESN'T THAT MEAN YOU'RE NOT FULFILLING YOUR CONTRACT? NO. I BELIEVE IN THE CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW, COLLECT THE RECYCLE.

IT IS OUR PROPERTY. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO START EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE LISTENING RIGHT NOW. STILL TUNED IN AT THIS TIME OF NIGHT THAT THAT IF THEY REALLY WERE WISHING TO RECYCLE. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT IT, BUT IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S A SOMETHING VALUABLE TO THEM, THAT IT'S VALUABLE TO RECYCLE, IT'S PART OF WHO YOU ARE.

WE'VE ENTERED A CONTRACT. IT JUST THE REALITY IS IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

AND IT'S I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THE VIABILITY ON THE BACKSIDE, THE NEED THE MARKET FOR IT IS GONE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT. I WISH WE'D KNOWN THAT SOONER BECAUSE WE JUST, I MEAN, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE RECYCLE BUSINESS. IT'S ONLY PENNY SAVED RIGHT NOW.

OF COURSE, COSTS ADD UP OVER TIME AND VOLUME, BUT ANYWAY.

I THINK WE GOT TO MOVE. MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH THAT REALIZATION.

THEN COME TO THE IDEA. ARE WE GOING TO GO TO 1 OR 2? I THINK THIS CAME FROM THIS CAME FROM THE TOWN HALL MEETING THAT WE HAD AT THE REC CENTER.

IF YOU RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT RECYCLING AND GOING BACK AND AND WE DID.

HE IS CORRECT. WE DID GO TO THEM AND ASK THEM TO GIVE US SOMETHING ELSE.

AND I'M HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH SUZY AND WHAT, WHAT THE INITIAL THING WAS, WAS GO TO THEM AND GIVE OUR RESIDENTS A REDUCTION.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET A REDUCTION IN SERVICE, THEY GIVE THEM A REDUCTION.

THIS SHOWS NOTHING THAT'S GETTING REDUCED TO TO THE TO THE RESIDENTS.

RIGHT. AND IF IT DOES IT'S GOING TO THE TO THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE.

THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP FOR IT. YEAH. IT'S JUST MOVING IT OUT OF HAND.

SO THE OTHER. SUSIE. SUSIE SAYS, KEEP WHAT WE GOT AND NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AT THE END.

THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER.

I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE GAINING BY RENEGOTIATING RIGHT NOW? IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE. JUST KEEP RUNNING THE CONTRACT.

IT'S LOCKED IN. YEAH. WE'RE NOT GAINING ANYTHING.

[03:40:01]

YEAH. BUT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US TO SEE IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY REDUCTION IF WE CANCELED RECYCLING.

RIGHT. TO TRY TO HELP MITIGATE THE FACT THAT WE WENT UP ON OUR WATER RATES.

WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE MONEY, TOO.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS. YOU CAN'T BE TURNING AROUND AND LOSING MONEY.

BUT WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WHAT WE THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ANGLETON AND THE PEOPLE OF ANGLETON.

THE CITIZENS. I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO.

ACTUALLY, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NOT THE BEST WE CAN DO. I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS. WELL, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT THAT THAT THAT AN INITIAL REDUCTION IN COST WAS BASED ON VIABLE RECYCLABILITY. I MEAN, I GET THAT 100%.

DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE 2.9% CPI INCREASE? OR IS THAT AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO AFFECT THAT'S THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.

PEOPLE WENT WELL IN THE PAST. WE ALWAYS TOOK ACTION IN COUNCIL MEETINGS TO GO.

WHERE'S CHLOE? HAS IT ALREADY GONE INTO EFFECT? IT WAS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO EFFECT IN DECEMBER I BELIEVE.

BUT WE WE PUSHED IT TILL AFTER THIS COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS ALL THIS.

SO WE GO INTO EFFECT FOR FEBRUARY BILLING.

OKAY. MATT, ONE LAST THING YOU KNOW. IT'S JUST CONCERNING WHY THE THE COMMERCIAL GOES UP SO MUCH TO REDUCE THE THE RESIDENTIAL. WHY WHY DOES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN? WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE BOTH GO DOWN WHEN THEY BOTH LOSE AT LEAST ONE DAY SERVICE, THE COMMERCIAL RATE GO DOWN.

COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. THEY BOTH GO TO A ONCE A WEEK SERVICE AND TWICE A WEEK.

AND YOU DIDN'T CHANGE AND MANIPULATE THE NUMBERS ANY WAY BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

SHOULDN'T I SEE BOTH OF THEM REDUCED? WELL, YOU LIVE IN THE SAME VOLUME, JUST AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

THE TWICE A WEEK YOU'RE NOT MOVING THE SAME VOLUME ON SECOND SERVICE DAY.

SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH.

IT'S NOT $10 TO PICK IT UP DAY ONE AND $10 TO PICK IT UP DAY TWO.

MOST OF YOUR COSTS INCURRED ON THAT FIRST PICKUP DAY BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR HEAVIEST DAY.

I'VE GIVEN YOU MORE CAPACITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANOTHER DAY THAT'S FREE TO TAKE ON ANOTHER CUSTOMER.

I'VE GIVEN YOU LESS COST AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLES.

GASOLINE. I SHOULD SEE REDUCTION. YEAH. YOUR VOLUME IS GOING TO BE YOUR VOLUME.

I GET IT. I MEAN, IF I, IF I CUT A TRUCK OUT, I DON'T HAVE A CUSTOMER THAT I CAN JUST.

I CAN'T MAKE UP. AREN'T YOU ABOUT TO TAKE ON ANOTHER CUSTOMER HERE IN THE REGION, UP IN SAN ANTONIO AND CIBOLO? SOUTH OF US. ARE YOU TAKING ON CLUE? NO. NO, THEY HAVEN'T GONE OUT TO BID.

MY POINT, THOUGH, IS YOU HAVE CAPACITY. YOU HAVE EXTRA CAPACITY AT THAT POINT.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME COST OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

IF I DON'T IF I DON'T HAVE ANY CUSTOMERS, I GOT TO CUT ROUTES.

I GOT TO CUT DRIVERS. I GOT TO CUT TRUCKS OUT.

MECHANICS OUT. BUT WOULDN'T YOU DO THAT IF YOU WENT TO JUST ONCE A WEEK SERVICE? WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO RELOCATE A LOT OF THESE GUYS.

BUT. BUT YOUR YOUR COST ESTIMATES DON'T REFLECT THAT.

BECAUSE YOUR COST ESTIMATES HAVE MORE OF A HIGHER FIXED COST COMPONENT IN IT THAN THEY DO A VARIABLE.

BY WAY OF THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE SHOWING ME, YOUR FIXED COSTS ARE NOT MOVING MUCH BECAUSE YOUR DISPOSAL IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME.

DISPOSAL IS THE SAME, ALTHOUGH IT IS VARIABLE TO SOME EXTENT.

BUT YOUR DRIVERS YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE 20 POUNDS OF TRASH ON YOUR FIRST SERVICE DAY, 20 POUNDS OF TRASH ON YOUR SECOND SERVICE DAY, AND YOU HAVE 15 POUNDS OF RECYCLE.

WHEN YOU ELIMINATE RECYCLE, THAT 15 POUNDS IS JUST GOING IN THE TRASH CAN.

WHEN YOU ELIMINATE THE SECOND SERVICE DAY, THAT 20 POUNDS IS JUST GOING INTO THAT TRASH.

SO IT'S THE THE DISPOSAL AMOUNT ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE WHETHER YOU HAVE ONCE A WEEK, TWICE A WEEK, FOUR TIMES A WEEK. RIGHT. THE DISPOSAL BILL, I GOT THAT.

I MEAN THAT'S OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE. IT IS IT IS HIGHLY A FIXED COST.

[03:45:04]

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO LET IT RIDE UNTIL THE NEXT TIME IT GOES OUT.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHO THEY THEY SWEAR BY, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL OVERLOAD THE DUMP, OVERLOAD IT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR VOLUME. NOT MUCH. I GOT THAT IT'S FIXED COSTS FOR THE MOST PART.

BUT MAJORITY OF YOUR FIXED COST IS YOUR YOUR HEAD COUNT, YOUR EQUIPMENT, YOUR.

YOU KNOW, THAT ALL HAPPENS. AND I'M NOT SEEING A REDUCTION AS MUCH.

SO THAT TELLS ME YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP PAYING THE SAME DRIVERS TO DO THE SAME THING JUST ONCE A WEEK, BUT ONCE A WEEK IT'S CUTTING, WHAT, 6 OR $7 OFF THE PRICE? BUT YOU MOVED IT TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. IT'S A IT'S A 7% INCREASE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO INCUR THAT MONEY BACK. THAT'S MY BUT THAT'S MY PROBLEM IS IF YOU COULD SHOW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BOTH GETTING A REDUCTION, IT'D BE A LOT BETTER TO SHOW YOU'RE LESS SERVICE.

SHOULD HAVE LESS COST. THAT'S JUST THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO EXPECT.

TRUE. BUT I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OF IOWA COLONY JUST WENT OUT TO BID ONCE A WEEK SERVICE, $17.50, I BELIEVE. I MEAN, NEGOTIATING PRICING DURING A CONTRACT, YOU GET MUCH BETTER PRICING THAN YOU DO WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BID.

YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST THE OTHER COMPETITORS. WHO DID IOWA COLONY GO WITH, I BELIEVE, BEST TRASH.

SO MAYOR COUNCIL, THE ORDINANCE IS NOT ATTACHED TO TO YOUR PACKET.

SO THIS WAS FOR DISCUSSION. AND THE ORDINANCE, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE WILL BE PLACED IN THE ORDINANCE WILL BE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND ANY ORDINANCE WILL GO INTO EFFECT. OKAY. BRO.

I GUESS THERE'S DOES COUNCIL WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, MATT, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT. NO PROBLEM.

APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND. YEAH, YEAH. NO PROBLEM. AND I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL.

I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO. I'M I GET IT. Y'ALL GOT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

AND WE DO REALLY APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU ALL OVER THE YEARS.

THIS IS NEVER A FUN THING. Y'ALL'S JOB IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

Y'ALL GOT TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. WILL. THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT, TOO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

OKAY. COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ANYBODY WANT TO KICK US OFF? APPRECIATE ALL THE FRUITS BY THE STAFF AND WORKERS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, STAFF WAITED WAY TO BE PROACTIVE LAST WEEK AND LAST WEEKEND.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME SOME THINGS WE WE CAN WORK ON, BUT OVERALL GREAT JOB.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS AGENDA TONIGHT, AS LONG AS IT WAS, WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN NEEDING TO DO.

I MEAN, WE WE WORKED OFF THE KING MUNICIPAL CENTER, ABIGAIL'S PARK PARISH, SILVER SADDLE STREET, THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS, THE RAILROAD STREET IMPROVEMENTS, AND THE BATES PARK FIELD.

SO ALL THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, GETTING PROJECTS OFF THE LIST AND GETTING DONE.

THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH ON HERE. -2 OR 3, BUT THAT THAT'S THE MANTRA FOR THIS YEAR. GET THE PROJECTS DONE, GET SERVICES IMPROVED.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT TONIGHT. I KNOW IT WAS LONG AND TEDIOUS, BUT WE GOT THROUGH IT.

COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO.

IT'S A GREAT STAFF. I ENJOY COMING UP HERE WHEN I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WHEN I'M NOT AT WORK.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS ALWAYS VERY DELIGHTED TO BE HERE, AND IT CHANGES MY MOOD TO WALK IN.

AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND EVERYBODY'S WORKING HARD.

AND EVERYBODY ALWAYS HAS AN ANSWER TO A SOLUTION OR TO A PROBLEM.

YES. DRAMATIC CHANGE WITH ANSWERS AND ACTION.

WE'RE REALLY SORRY THAT YOU'RE OFF. REALLY GOOD. I KNOW IT'S MID-YEAR FOR OUR BUDGET, BUT THIS WHOLE NEW YEAR AND I.

I'M. I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW EVERYTHING IS GOING.

AND I HAD NOTHING, HEARD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS.

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I WAS LIKE, I KNOW, YAY! BUT EVERYTHING. I'M SO GLAD THAT EVERYTHING WENT SMOOTHLY AND THAT EVERYONE'S DOING GOOD.

AND KEEP IT UP, PLEASE. YES, JASON. I WOULD LIKE UPDATES ON FREEDOM PARK SHOULD BE COMING TO US IN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

YES. SO FREEDOM PARK IS OUT TO BID CURRENTLY.

WE DO ANTICIPATE THOSE BIDS TO BE IN AND ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

WE DID HAVE OUR PRE-BID MEETING. I GUESS THAT WAS ONLY YESTERDAY.

AND WE ALSO INITIATED A NEW PLATFORM, WHICH WE PLAN TO DO WITH ABIGAIL.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY PUT IT ON A CAST. AND SO IT ACTUALLY PUTS IT OUT TO A WIDER NET OF BIDDERS.

LAST I CHECKED ON THAT ONE, THERE WAS ABOUT 15 IN CONTRACTORS THAT AT LEAST DOWNLOADED.

AND SO WE ARE ENCOURAGED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BETTER RESULT FROM THAT ONE.

CAN'T GUARANTEE IT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT SHOULD BE ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

AND SINCE YOU'RE UP THERE, I WOULD LIKE I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND START PUBLISHING. PUBLISHING? OPPORTUNITIES AT APPLEGATE AREAS PARK.

YOU DON'T DO THAT OR YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND JUST.

I NEED A REASON WHY. OKAY. MARTHA AND I WERE DOING A SIDEBAR, AND I THINK WE FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN GET SOMETHING UP PRETTY QUICK.

I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU. FOR FREEDOM PARK. DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO ABIGAIL'S PARK.

OKAY. I HAVE AN IDEA THAT I WANT TO RUN PAST YOU AND MARTHA ON ALSO THE UPDATE ON THE PLAY AREA.

PLAY STRUCTURES ON ON FREEDOM. OH. THE PLAYGROUND.

YES. SO THAT ORDER HAS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED.

AND EVERYTHING. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON FINAL DELIVERY DATES FOR THE EQUIPMENT, BUT WE STILL ANTICIPATE EARLY SPRING.

SO I'LL TRY TO PROVIDE AN EXACT DATE FOR THAT ONE ON OUR STAFF REPORT FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING.

I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT.

SPEAKING OF THE AGENDA, IF WE DON'T HAVE STAFF.

OKAY. YOU CAN REQUEST HE JUST DOESN'T NEED TO REPORT.

YEAH. I DIDN'T MEAN TONIGHT. I MEANT I'M SETTING UP FOR REPORTS.

EVERYBODY'S FINE. I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO TO AGENDA.

JOE. NO. NO, MAN. I'M ASKING FOR ITEMS TO LOOK AT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

GOT IT. TECHNICALLY, HE COULD GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 11.

TECHNICALLY, BUT HE DIDN'T. ANY PERSISTENT ANY OTHER TRYING TO HELP YOU THERE ANY OTHER DIRECTIVE? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

COUNCIL WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE,

[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 950.

FOUR. COMPASSION. WE'RE COMPASSIONATE. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1115 AT NIGHT.

[OPEN SESSION ]

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SMITH TO APPOINT DESIREE HENSON AS THE CITY SECRETARY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT MICHELLE? MICHELLE? THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

LIKE YOU'RE YOU'RE GROWING AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND I WISH YOU THE VERY, VERY BEST.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED FOR YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT HERE AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. THANK YOU. THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT THEIR RESIGNATION.

YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE A POINTER. YES. THAN THEY DO.

THEN I MADE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT MICHELLE'S RESIGNATION.

I HAVE ONE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS IT OKAY IF I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? YEAH. ANYTHING GOES. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH TO ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF MICHELLE PEREZ AS OUR CITY SECRETARY. AND A MOTION TO. YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO LET'S MAKE A LET'S VOTE ON THE FIRST ITEM.

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ACCEPTING THE RESIGNATION OKAY. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

I WANTED TO SAY NO. NOW WE HAVE THE OTHER ITEM ON THE FLOOR WITH THE MOTION AND SECOND.

SO LET'S VOTE ON THE APPOINTMENT OF DESIREE. SO CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

MICHELLE, WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP.

YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT ANCHOR IN THIS DEPARTMENT TO KEEP US RUNNING.

WHEN BASICALLY. WERE YOU HERE WITH SCOTT TWO? NO, NO, YOU WERE HERE AFTER THAT? YES. AND WE'VE NAVIGATED SOME WATERS DURING THESE TIMES, AND YOU'VE HUNG IN THERE, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAPPIER.

AND IF FRANCIS IS LISTENING, YOU OWE ME, FRANCIS.

NO, YOU'LL DO GREAT IN PEARLAND. JUST CLOSE THE DOOR BEHIND YOU, OKAY? DON'T LET ANYBODY ELSE GO TO PEARLAND. GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ACTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO MORE, NO MORE. OKAY, THEN AT THIS POINT, I GUESS WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN.

LET ME MAKE SURE. YEP. WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 1017, 1117, 1117.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.