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O'CLOCK ON THE DOT. WE'LL CALL THE PARKS AND REC BOARD MEETING TO ORDER FOR APRIL 13TH, 2026.
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM TODAY. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL BEING HERE.I APPRECIATE IT. JASON, YOU WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW YOUTH MEMBER.
IF YOUR MICROPHONE. SCOOT OVER. I. APOLOGIZE.
IT'S A HANGING WHERE HE WANTS TO GO RIGHT NOW. SO YES.
SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ON THE BOARD AND PROVIDE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON FROM THE YOUTH SIDE OF THINGS AS WE LOOK TO ENHANCE OUR PARKS, OUR PROGRAMS, OUR RECREATION. SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SIMMONS FOR COMING AND BEING OUR LIAISON TO THE COUNCIL AGAIN.
SO THREE AGENDA ITEMS TODAY. HOPEFULLY THIS MEETING WILL MOVE PRETTY QUICK.
[1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Parks & Recreation Board meeting on February 17, 2026.]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING ON FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026. THOSE MEETINGS WERE POSTED ON THE PACKET THAT WERE THAT WAS ONLINE AND GOT SENT OUT.COMMENTS ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM LAST TIME.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER REMOVAL
[2. Discussion and possible action to consider removal of Board Member due to attendance.]
OF BOARD MEMBER DUE TO ATTENDANCE. SO THIS IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER.REMOVAL OF BOARD MEMBER DUE TO ATTENDANCE. SECTION 1718 OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCES REQUIRES ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. THE ORDINANCE STATES ANY MEMBER WHO IS ABSENT FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS OF THE BOARD WITHOUT VALID EXCUSE IS DETERMINED BY THE BOARD.
IS DETERMINED. SHALL AUTOMATICALLY BE DISMISSED FROM MEMBERSHIP BY.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION REGARDING ABSENCES OR REQUESTS TO BE EXCUSED.
THE BOARD IS ASKED TO REVIEW THE ATTENDANCE RECORDS FOR GUADALUPE MORALES AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE ABSENCES MEET THE CRITERIA OF VALID WITHOUT VALID EXCUSE AS OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE. CONSISTENT ATTENDANCE IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN QUORUM.
ENSURE EFFECTIVE BOARD OPERATIONS AND SUPPORT THE BOARD'S ADVISORY ROLE TO THE CITY.
I IF I RECALL FROM THE TIME THEY WOULD MISS, IT WOULD BE AT LEAST FIVE.
YES. WE ALSO HAVE FAILED TO RECEIVE ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL.
WE STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMUNICATION BACK, WHETHER IT BE BY MAIL OR EMAIL OR PHONE CALL.
AND SO WE'RE JUST NOT SURE WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS GOING, BUT PER OUR BYLAWS DOES MEET THE CRITERIA FOR DISMISSAL BECAUSE THERE WERE NO ABSENCES OR VALID REASONS PROVIDED OR ANY REASONS IN GENERAL PROVIDED.
SO. SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS THAT TOO MUCH THEN.
YEAH, YEAH. MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE BOARD MEMBER, GUADALUPE MORALES, DUE TO ATTENDANCE.
SO TO CLARIFY, JUST BACK UP QUICK. I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S CONFUSING.
SO Y'ALL DON'T ACTUALLY NEED TO VOTE ON THE REMOVAL.
YOU'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING IT AND PROVIDING RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF TO NOTIFY CITY COUNCIL OF THE DECISION SO THEY CAN YOU WANT A MOTION THAT WE FIND IT THAT WE FIND IT NOT VALID EXCUSE.
YOU'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S THAT IT'S IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE BYLAW AND THAT YOU'RE GIVING RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OF NOTIFYING CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE TO PROMOTION TO RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T THINK I'VE MISSED ANY MEETINGS. YES. YEAH.
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THAT'S ALL. YEAH. SO YEAH. SCRATCH MOTION REPLACED WITH RECOMMENDATION.YEAH. ALTERNATE. YOU'RE ADJUSTING YOUR MOTION? YES. YES. SO THE MOTION IS THAT THERE IS NO MOTION.
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SHE'S BEEN ABSENT WITHOUT VALID EXCUSE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A MOTION AT ALL IS WHAT HE'S SAYING. IT'S A DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK. YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE OR ANYTHING? NO. YOU CAN, BUT YOU'RE PROVIDING DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO NOTIFY CITY COUNCIL.
ACKNOWLEDGE AND FIND A NEW BOARD MEMBER. YEAH. OKAY. THAT RIGHT? YES. DOES ANYBODY WANT A SECOND? THAT SECOND? DON'T WORRY. I'LL CLEAN THAT UP. OH, YEAH. PLEASE CLEAN IT UP. OKAY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ON WHATEVER AARON SAID.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DIRECTING STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? I, I, I ANY OPPOSED? THAT'S NOT HOW ALL AT ALL HOW I EXPECTED THAT TO GO.
IT WENT WELL. I GUESS IT WENT. IT DID. IT DID.
PERSONNEL. IT DIDN'T. YES. WELL, THAT AND THAT'S TRULY WHAT IT IS.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
YOU'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE WAS NOT A VALID EXCUSE, AND THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR BYLAWS BY NOTIFYING, GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO NOTIFY CITY COUNCIL TO REDO THAT PROCESS OR RESTART THE PROCESS OF HIRE OR NOT HIRE, APPOINTING A NEW BOARD MEMBER. OKAY. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS NEXT ONE. SMOOTH. SO SMOOTH.
[3. Discussion and possible action on list of recommendations for Parks & Rec Director based on park assessment.]
SO AT THE DIRECTION OF PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PARKS ON THE DIRECTIONS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS ARE TO DEVELOP AND PRESENT A PRIORITIZED LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF THE RECENT PARK ASSESSMENT.FOLLOWING THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING, BOARD MEMBERS WILL COORDINATE WITH STAFF TO COMPILE A LIST OF POTENTIAL PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS DERIVED FROM ASSESSMENT RESULTS AND OBSERVED SYSTEM NEEDS. BOARD MEMBERS WERE ENCOURAGED TO VISIT PARK SITES, EVALUATE CONDITIONS, AND CONSIDER SYSTEM WIDE PRIORITIES IN PREPARATION FOR DISCUSSION.
SO ON MARCH 17TH, I SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY THAT HAD A LIST OF TEN PROJECTS THAT JASON AND I HAD COME UP WITH LISTED IN NO SPECIFIC ORDER AT ALL. WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS GO THROUGH THOSE AND DISCUSS THOSE TODAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP WITH A FINAL LIST TODAY.
AND, JASON, CORRECT ME IF I GOT ANY OF THIS WRONG. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THEM.
YOU'LL GET ANOTHER EMAIL FROM ME IN A WEEK OR SO WITH THAT LIST.
AND IN CASE YOU WANT TO GO BACK BY AND VISIT ONE OF THESE PARKS AND GET AN IDEA WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN YOU WILL EMAIL ME BACK WITH THAT LIST.
IS THAT DID I CAPTURE THAT RIGHT? YES. SO IDEALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE CURRENT FINDINGS FROM OUR PARK ASSESSMENT, AND THEN ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT WE HAD AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING REGARDING THE PARK ASSESSMENT.
STARTING TO NARROW DOWN WHAT PROJECT PRIORITIES YOU ALL FEEL WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO TACKLE IN THE COMING YEAR OR TWO YEARS, IF YOU WILL? BECAUSE I DON'T ALWAYS WANT TO LOOK AT IT JUST YEAR OVER ONE YEAR AT A TIME.
YOU WANT TO HAVE LONGEVITY THAT GOES WITH THAT.
WE WOULD TAKE THAT. AND THEN AS DAVID MENTIONED, COME BACK AND PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD.
AFTER YOU ALL GO THROUGH AND ACTUALLY RANK THEM AND PROVIDE YOUR SPECIFIC RANKS, THEN WE WOULD COMPILE THAT DATA, BRING IT BACK IN OUR JUNE MEETING TO DISCUSS AND SAY, Y'ALL PRETTY MUCH GAVE YOUR STAMP OF APPROVAL TO SAY, YES, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE PRIORITIES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE WOULD THEN TAKE THAT AND BRING THAT TO ABLC.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT FINALIZED, TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO THEM THESE PROJECTS AND SOME ASSOCIATED COSTS.
THEY WOULD ALL BE PRELIMINARY. WE WOULDN'T GO INTO HIGH DEPTH ON THEM.
WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THEM MORE OF AN OPINION OF PROBABLE COST.
SO IT WOULD HELP THEM DETERMINE IF THEY SUPPORT AND OR HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE.
CONSEQUENTLY AS WELL, WE WOULD BRING THAT SAME SIMILAR LIST TO COUNCIL.
THINGS OF THAT, OR IF THEY COULD IDENTIFY FUNDING, IT WOULD FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
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WITH AND I'LL MENTION THIS TO THEM THAT MORE WILL BE COMING, BUT IT'S GOING TO START TO SET US UP FOR WHAT PROJECTS THAT WE CAN START TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. SO LET ME READ THIS LIST AND THEN SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY ITEMS ON IT.SPECIFICALLY FOR JASON. AND THEN CLARA'S GOING TO SHARE SOME STUFF THAT SHE THAT SHE'S DONE HERE.
SO THE LIST OF PROJECTS HERE AGAIN, THESE ARE IN NO SPECIFIC ORDER STRIPING PARKING LOTS AT MULTIPLE PARKS, STAGE OR AMPHITHEATER AT VETERANS PARK, LARGE RENTABLE PAVILION AT FREEDOM PARK BRIDGE AND TRAIL TO PASSIVE AREA AT FREEDOM PARK.
REPLACEMENT OF PLAYGROUND PAVILION AT BATES PARK.
UPGRADES OR ADDITIONS. ADDITIONS AT MASTERSON PARK.
OH YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? SO JUST WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT PRETTY CLEAR. YEAH, YEAH.
DO WE STILL HAVE ACCESS? WAS ALL THE OTHER THE, THE WHOLE ENCHILADA SOMEWHERE AS WELL.
TO VIEW STILL OR THE PARK ASSESSMENT. WELL, I'M SAYING LIKE IF WAS EVERYTHING WRITTEN OUT LIKE THE WAY THE THINGS THESE PARTICULAR THINGS WERE PULLED FROM. IS THERE A LIST THAT WASN'T THAT WAS COMPILED? BASICALLY, IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THIS TOP. THERE WAS NOT THIS IS KIND OF THE ONES THAT I CAME UP WITH.
AND THEN JASON TALKED ON SOME AND WE THREW SOME OF MINE OUT AND WE ADDED SOME OF HIS.
WE KIND OF BASED IT ON STUFF THAT WE HAD SEEN FROM THOSE PARK ASSESSMENT TOOLS.
OKAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, IF YOU GOT A PROJECT THAT YOU THINK IS CRITICAL THAT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE, WE CAN ADD IT. JASON SAID HE HAD WANTED TO ADD, IF THERE'S A THING THAT WE AS A BOARD THINK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WE CAN TAKE IT OFF. YEAH, YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON WAS IN SOME PRIOR MEETINGS, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS NOT MEETING ADA AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ADA HERE, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD NORMALLY BE A PRIORITY WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES OR THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO PUT US IN COMPLIANCE.
SO I DID WANT TO JUST ASK ABOUT THAT JUST SPECIFICALLY.
AND THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT TO MAKE. SO IF YOU RECALL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY.
WE DO HAVE OUR ADA TRANSITION PLAN THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN 2021.
STAFF CONTINUE TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED THERE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE MAJORITY OF ITEMS DO NOT GET ADDRESSED.
AND SO WHAT I CAN DO IS IF THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL, I CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT TRANSITION REPORT AND LINK TO THE CURRENT PROJECTS WE HAVE TACKLED AND THE ONES WE HAVEN'T. AND SO THAT WAY, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO BRING INTO AND SAY YOU TRIGGER THAT ONE IS ANOTHER ONE.
SO WHEN WE COME BACK YOU HAVE THAT TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SMART FOR US.
JUST IF WE'RE GIVING RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY'RE THINGS THAT ARE COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? THEN WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE OTHER REALM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO SHOULD THERE BE A LINE ITEM AS A PROJECT TO GO THROUGH PARKS AND MAKE THEM HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE? WE CAN ADD THAT AS A, AS A LINE ITEM. IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKING? GOING BACK TO PARK'S CURRENT FACILITIES AND MAKE THEM.
I MEAN, THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE PRIORITIES IN MAKING.
I WOULD ASSUME, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REQUIREMENTS COMPLIANCE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG, BIG TOP ISSUES HERE. SO WHERE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OH, FUN TO HAVE AND NICE TO HAVE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO NAVIGATE THESE AND THEN OUR COMPLIANCE AS A CITY, WHICH CAN BITE US IN THE BUTT TO NOT HAVE DONE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE AN ITEM THAT'S NOT JUST A LINE ITEM.
IT'S A TOP PRIORITY ITEM. YEAH. WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO NO EXPENSE FOR THOSE THINGS BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S SOME OF IT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE TO BE ADA.
WE ALL WANT IT TO BE ADA, OF COURSE, BUT IT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE.
YEAH, 100% EXACTLY. BUT JUST THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN HERE THAT'S GOING TO BE A $2 MILLION PROJECT THAT WE HAVE A $2 MILLION COMPLIANCE THAT CAN BE MET, THEN THAT HAS TO KIND OF, I WOULD ASSUME, SUPERSEDE IN SOME CAPACITY.
SO IT WILL I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHERE CLARA IS GOING WITH THAT, THAT THERE'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE, BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME HURDLES THAT PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT.
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B, C AND COUNCIL WE BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION. SO I CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT.WE DID ADDRESS THE SIDEWALK THERE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY.
THE TRANSITION FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE ROAD WAS NOT ADDRESSED.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S A TO ADDRESS THAT IS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, IF YOU WILL.
I SHOULDN'T SAY MULTI-MILLION DEPENDING ON THE CAPACITY OF WHAT THEY DO, RIGHT? BUT TO ADDRESS THAT IS A MUCH LARGER SCALE PROJECT THAN IT IS.
FOR EXAMPLE, GIVES LIKE THE REC CENTER, WE HAD TO REDO THE SLOPING ON THE ACCESSIBILITY RAMP THAT CAME FROM WHERE THE HANDICAPPED PARKING WAS, AND WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD TO ELONGATE THAT, RIGHT. WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THERE'S SOME THAT FIT WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO THAT'S OUR DAILY VERSUS SOME OF THEM BEING SIDEWALK ACCESSIBILITY AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE, THE PARK KIND OF STUFF LIKE THAT. OR WHAT IS THE ACCESSIBILITY ROUTE LOOK LIKE WANTS TO THINK ABOUT IS LIKE BGP, RIGHT? THE ROUTE ACCESSIBILITY ROUTE, LIKE WHERE AND HOW TO GET TO CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT SMOOTH TRANSITION THAT ALL THAT GETS YOU OFF OF A SIDEWALK ON ONTO THE PATH THAT GETS YOU TO THE PLAYGROUND AND IT GETS YOU TO THE PAVILION.
AND SO THERE'S, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT AT LEAST.
SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO, TO SIDE BY SIDE, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE AT ALL.
THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT COMPLIANCE. SO IF WE KNOW SOMETHING'S AT LEAST MAY BE ACCESSIBLE, MAYBE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF, WE'RE GOING TO VIEW IT WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF, OF, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHERE, WHERE DOES IT FALL IN ALL OF THESE THINGS? AND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THOSE THINGS AREN'T GOING TO MAKE THE LIST. I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL.
AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME IS, IS IF, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, THEN IT SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE HERE. SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S IT KIND OF IS IS, YOU KNOW, SO SHOULD WE ADD THAT AS A PRIORITY, AS A PRIORITY LIST ON THIS LIST? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS FOR CURRENT PART? I, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY IT'S FULLY IN THE WORKS.
SO AGAIN, THIS TRANSITION PLAN STARTED IN 2021 AND WE ADDRESS ITEMS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS WITHIN OUR CURRENT OPERATIONAL BUDGET BECAUSE OF OUR RECENT BUDGET CUTS. IT LESSENS THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM WITHIN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
SO LESS ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED OVER TIME. AND THAT LIST IS CONTINUES TO ROLL OVER.
AND SO WHILE IT IS TECHNICALLY IN THE WORKS, WE DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT FUNDING TO ADDRESS FULL SCOPE ITEMS. CONVERSELY, THE OTHER ONE I WOULD THINK ABOUT IS LIKE THE REC CENTER. THERE'S REC CENTER ITEMS ON THERE, WHICH THE PLAN IS TO ADDRESS THEM AS WE GO THROUGH RENOVATIONS.
AND SO SOME OF THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT COMPLIANCE MEANS AND WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.
AND SO IF WE ARE LOOKING TO DO RENOVATIONS TO THE RESTROOMS IS AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? TRYING TO GET IN COMPLIANCE FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO DO THAT IS TO, TO ADDRESS THEM WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR RENOVATIONS. AND SO IT'S JUST THAT TIMELINE OF HOW THAT WORKS BECAUSE GOING BACK TO THE EXAMPLE OF MASTERSON, WE ADDRESSED THE SIDEWALK. WELL, THE TRANSITION FROM THAT ROADWAY TO THE SIDEWALK DOESN'T MEET THAT STANDARD.
GREAT. IF YOU PARK RIGHT THERE, YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
BUT IF YOU'RE COMING THE CROSSROAD OVER, IT'S.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS, MY TO JUST KIND OF MAYBE HONE IT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY TO THE PARKS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY COMMUNICATING. SO WE KNOW THAT PARK, YOU KNOW, THE REC CENTER AND LIKE JUST, JUST WHAT IS PART OF OUR CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW AND, AND WHERE IT'S, IT'S COMING UP SHORT.
IF WE CAN HAVE THOSE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF US TO SAY, OKAY, JUST STRICTLY PARK RELATED, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TO ADDRESS IN THIS, YOU KNOW, PLAN RIGHT NOW THAT 2021, I ASSUME WAS A PRETTY.
LARGE SCALE. I THINK I REMEMBER EVEN GOING OVER THAT AT CERTAIN TIMES.
SO. JUST FOCUSED ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR PARKS AND, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT WE REALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY. IS THERE A WAY TO TIE THE 2021 SPECIFIC PARKS TO THAT, TO THIS WISH LIST? LIKE WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR MASTERSON ON THAT LIST? THAT COULD BE LIKE AN, LIKE AN OUTLINE, AN INVITATION, A STAR OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS THESE ITEMS ARE ADA REQUESTS FROM
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2021 SO THAT THEY'RE ON THIS LIST. BUT KIND OF SEPARATE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE WORK DONE.YEAH, I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY CAN BECAUSE I THINK THAT EVEN INCLUDING THE JUST THE MENTION OF HAVING A PLAN FROM 2021 THAT HAD STRATEGIC ITEMS LISTED TO IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE TRULY IT IS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR FUNDING FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? AND SO YOU'RE BEHOLDEN TO WHAT THE FUNDING THAT COMES IN, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY MENTION THAT ON THE LIST THAT WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU RECALL, WE STILL HAVE A TRANSITION PLAN THAT WAS DEDICATED OR THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021.
YES. AND THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO ADA RELATED ITEMS. AND SO THEY MIGHT NOT BE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, BROKEN PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
RIGHT. EXACTLY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE PLAYGROUND ACCESSIBLE? CAN I GET THERE? CAN I GET TO THE PARK? RIGHT.
BRUSHY IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT ONE. IF THERE'S NO SIDEWALK TO IT, RIGHT? LIKE YOU HAVE ZERO ADA ACCESSIBILITY TO THERE, THERE'S NO ACCESSIBILITY TO THE ONE PAVILION THAT'S THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STUFF LIKE THAT. THEY'RE LOOKING DIRECTLY RELATED TO ADA ACCESSIBILITY.
NOT THE PARK AMENITY ELEMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THAT'S GOOD. NO, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. SO DO WE WANT TO ADD A LINE TO THE WISH LIST? I GUESS THAT SAYS TO REVIEW 2021 PARK FACILITIES ADA COMPLIANT AT ALL PARKS WHERE PRACTICAL. YEP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE FROWNING. SO 20 2021 ADA. I GUESS I WOULD PREFER COUNCIL MEMBER TO SEE ON YOUR LIST A SUBLIST THAT SAYS THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN REQUESTED BUT NOT FUNDED.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A MERRY GO ROUND ON YOUR LIST, BUT YOU'VE ADDRESSED IT ON YOUR LIST, I WOULD LIKE US INDENTATION, A SUBSET THAT SAID THIS WAS THIS IS ON THE 2021 UNFUNDED ADA LIST, SO THAT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BEING ADA THAN A MERRY GO ROUND THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON YOURS.
MAYBE YOUR INTENT WOULD BE PURPLE, GREEN AND YELLOW ONE.
BUT THE ADA IS A MUCH BIGGER FUND. AND SO WHEN THE DIRECTOR GOES TO.
ABLC, IT'S MORE MONEY. OKAY, WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS LIKE ADA ACCESSIBILITY TRANSITION PLAN FROM 2021 OR SOMETHING, AND THEN THE BULLET POINTS UNDERNEATH, WHICH WE HAVE TO DECIDE THERE'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, 50 OF, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THINGS, 20 THINGS. AND WE'VE GOT TO, WE GOT TO PRIORITIZE AND WE AIN'T GOING TO GET IT ALL.
AND SO I THINK ALL OF THEM IS NOT GOING TO BE NO, 100%.
NO. YEAH. SO I MEAN, OR IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
YEAH. THAT IT'S BEEN OUT THERE. YEAH. WE NEED TO NOT FORGET ABOUT THEM.
EXACTLY. SO THAT'S THAT'S ADDRESSED YOUR CONCERNS, AARON.
IF WE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WE MIGHT HAVE TO JUST HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE PRIORITIZE THE THINGS AND OR, I DON'T KNOW, GET TOGETHER NOW AND DECIDE WHICH ONES WE THINK NEED TO MAKE THE LIST.
YES, SIR. YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE DONE? OH, YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TIME TO GET YOUR OWN COPY HERE.
I THINK THEY FIGURED IT OUT WHERE THEY NEEDED IT.
JUST ENOUGH. ACTUALLY, I THINK. DID YOU GIVE HER ONE? OH, THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. CLARA. ALRIGHT, SO LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT I DID.
I THINK I GOT AN EXTRA OVERACHIEVER HERE. WE LIKE IT.
AND WE CAN DECIDE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT I JUST WENT WITH THE LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED.
AND THEN ACROSS THE TOP I JUST BRAINSTORMED WHAT I THOUGHT WAS CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING RANKING, BUT I. SO I PUT LIKE PREVIOUS FEATURE, IT'S NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS HIGHLY USED, FREQUENT. HIGHLY FREQUENTED.
COMFORT OF PARK VISITORS. LOW COST PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR IT.
SAFETY CAN IMPLEMENT IN 2026 AFFECTS MULTIPLE PARKS AND MAKES MONEY FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT IS THOSE WERE MINE. WE CAN COME UP WITH OTHER ONES.
AND THEN WHAT I DID IS I DIDN'T WANT TO WEIGHT THEM DIFFERENTLY.
I JUST MADE THEM ALL WORTH TEN POINTS. OKAY, NOW WE CAN ALL ARGUE WHETHER SAFETY MIGHT BE MORE THAN SOMETHING ELSE, BUT AT THIS POINT I JUST MADE THEM ALL EQUAL.
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AND THEN WHAT I DID IS JUST SCORED THEM. SO I COULDN'T PUT MY OWN BIAS IN THERE TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I REALLY WANT THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE STAGE OF VETERANS PARK, YOU KNOW? BUT IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE NEED HERE? YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY.IT'S NOT THAT FREQUENTED, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE NOISE ISSUES IN THE CITY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THEM SCORED. THE SCORE IS RIGHT.
THE LETTERS IN RED ARE THE RANKING AND THEN THE THE NUMBERS TO THE LEFT OF THAT.
THAT IS THE SCORE. SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OF THEM THAT SCORED 50.
SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN DECIDE FROM THERE WHICH ONES.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY IF WE HAVE TIES, WE HAVE TO KIND OF PRIORITIZE IT.
AND WHAT I DID IS BASED IT ON THE BIGGER PARTS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S MORE FREQUENTED OR MORE USED.
IF YOU TOOK FREEDOM AND SOFTBALL, I WOULD RANK THEM PRETTY MUCH EQUAL, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHICH ONE IS MORE FREQUENTED OR WOULD BE MORE OF A BENEFIT TO MORE PEOPLE, THAT KIND OF THING. SO I WAS TRYING TO KIND OF WAY THAT IN THERE.
I MEAN, I CAN IT'S A NO BRAINER TO COMPARE VETERANS AND PATTERSON WITH THOSE OTHER TWO PARTS, YOU KNOW? SO I WAS JUST KIND OF GIVING THEM A WAIT.
SO I DID USE A FIVE ON SOME OF THEM ON COST BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA ON COSTS.
I JUST KIND OF GUESSED. SO THE TEN I GAVE IT A TEN IF IT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS LOW COST AND I KNEW IF IT WAS GOING TO COST SOME MONEY, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD AFFORD IT. I PUT A FIVE AND THEN I PUT A ZERO IF I THOUGHT IT WAS PRICEY.
SO THAT COST IS WAS KIND OF A HARD ONE FOR ME.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST HOW I DID IT. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT, IT WAS SORT OF WEIGHTED TO WHAT I WAS SAYING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CRITERIA I WAS USING WHEN I DID IT, BUT IT WASN'T THAT DIFFERENT FROM, I GUESS WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS RECOMMENDING. I MEAN, LIKE THE STRIPING, IT'S JUST LIKE, THAT'S EASY.
IT'S AT ALL PARTS. IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. IT LOOKS NICER.
YOU KNOW ALL THAT. I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS A NO BRAINER, YOU KNOW? SO SOME OF THOSE ARE REAL LOW HANGING FRUIT. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING IN BATES PARK, IT'S LIKE, I HATE WASTING MONEY ON CONCRETE, BUT WE REALLY DO NEED IT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. SO I ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH HOW TO PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, THE NEED, YOU KNOW? SO ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF WELL, THIS IS Y'ALL CAN SHOOT AT IT.
YEAH, THIS IS ONE I'D LIKE TO SEE, BUT IT'S NOT ONE THAT SERVES A LOT OF PEOPLE. RIGHT. SO YOU GOT TO WEIGH ALL THAT TOGETHER. AND I WILL SAY TO, TO THAT POINT WELL, YES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE GREATER GOOD OF WHAT SERVES MORE PEOPLE, RIGHT? SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE TO BE SUBJECTIVE IN HOW YOU SELECT THEM.
WELL, THAT'S WHERE THE DOG PART STRUCK. MADE ME STRUGGLE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENT IT IS.
AND IT'S NOT PEOPLE, BUT SORT OF PEOPLE. IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOUR LEGGED PEOPLE.
AND SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF. RIGHT. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE GREATER GOOD OF YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE UNDERSERVED POPULATION. AND IT MAY NOT BE THE GREATEST POPULATION, BECAUSE IF THAT WAS THE CASE AND WE WERE GOING SIMPLY BY WHO WAS SERVED THE MOST, YOU WOULD PROBABLY POUR INTO JUST A COUPLE OF THE PARKS.
BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TO BE AS OBJECTIVE OF SAYING, HOW ARE WE TRYING TO SERVE ALL PEOPLE, THAT WE MIGHT PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDING INTO THE ONE THAT GETS MORE PEOPLE THERE, IF YOU WILL.
RIGHT. BUT WE STILL RECOGNIZE THERE IS AN IMPORTANCE FOR THIS GROUP TO BE SERVED, RIGHT? AND SO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE SOME OF THAT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, THE COST DIFFERENTIAL IS WHERE YOU KIND OF COME INTO PLAY THERE.
WELL, WE CAN JUSTIFY SPENDING $1 MILLION ON X PROJECT BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, 10,000 PEOPLE. WELL, WE MIGHT SPEND $200,000 ON THIS ONE, AND THIS ONE BRINGS IN 1000 PEOPLE.
WELL, YOU'VE INVESTED ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT IN, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NOT ON.
BUT THE CAPACITY OF WHAT YOU'RE SERVING IS THERE. SO IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD TO, TO DO THAT.
KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE A LARGE POPULATION AT SOME OF THE PARKS, I CAN TELL YOU RECENT DISCUSSIONS AT OUR PARKS IS WHY WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC PARKS THAT ARE TIED TO A LOT OF SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS OR TO SPORTS, RIGHT? WHICH ISN'T A BAD THING. THE DIFFICULT THINGS THAT RUNS FROM THAT IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE USE IT.
WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY BATES PARK IS THERE'S A TOURNAMENT GOING ON.
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RIGHT? AND SO WHERE DOES THAT FUNNEL THEM TO? WHAT PARK DO THEY GO TO THAT HELPS SERVE THE NEED FOR THE GENERAL COMMUNITY WHEN THEY CAN'T ACCESS A GENERAL PARK, RIGHT. WELL, AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S KIND OF ORGANIZED ASSOCIATIONS KIND OF ADVOCATING FOR THEM, THAT REALLY HELPS. I MEAN, IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT HELPS US, YOU KNOW, AND RECOGNIZE THE NEED. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDERSERVED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT SCREAMING AS LOUD AS THESE OTHER KIND OF MORE ORGANIZED ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THE NEED, YOU KNOW? SO YEAH, IT'S TOUGH WHEN ABIGAIL IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
ABIGAIL. LIKE WE LIKE AS PARKS PROFESSIONALS, WE KNOW HOW TO LOOK AT THOSE AND SAY, OKAY, WHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS THERE AN UNDERSERVED PART OF THE COMMUNITY? RIGHT? WE KNOW ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, THERE IS NO ACCESS TO A PARK.
AND SO WE HAVE A DEFICIENCY THERE, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S EXCITING TO GET A PARK THERE.
ANYBODY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN HAS TO AUTOMATICALLY TRAVEL DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DETERMINE THAT, RIGHT? TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION VERSUS HAVING ONE THAT IS CLOSE BY THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A PARK AMENITY NEAR THAT'S NEARBY.
AND THAT REALLY, I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S THE CITY WEALTH EVEN BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GENERATING, IF YOU'RE PUTTING ALL YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR INCOME IN ONE PART OF THE TOWN OR TWO AREAS OF THE TOWN, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALISTIC LOSING OUT ON AS IT GOES, IT GOES FAR, SO FAR BEYOND THIS.
I MEAN, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, OUR TOWN IS NOT VERY WALKABLE.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE DRIVING WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING ANYWAY. SO TO ME, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. IT'S NICE TO HAVE IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE ALL THE KIDS ARE AND THAT THEY CAN WALK ON A NICE SIDEWALK TO THERE, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC PROBLEM.
AND SO YOU STRUGGLE WITH THAT TOO. YOU KNOW, 100%.
I KNOW THEY HEAR IT PROBABLY STILL AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THE SIDEWALK.
THE SIDEWALKS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE. I THOUGHT THAT NEEDED TO BE WAITED.
YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT WAS CRITICAL. THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT I IDENTIFIED.
NOW, Y'ALL MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I THOUGHT SHADE WAS KIND OF AN IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE THE SUMMERTIME IS WHEN EVERYBODY'S AT THE PARKS MOSTLY AND YOU KNOW, THE SHADE, IT'S MISERABLE.
SO THAT'S WHY I THREW THOSE IN THERE AS CRITERIA.
SAFETY. YOU CAN KIND OF LIKE STRIPING SAFETY.
I SAID NOT REALLY YOU KNOW, BUT YOU COULD ARGUE IT WAS IT IS, YOU KNOW.
SO I GUESS FOR ME, SOMEONE DOES A BAD PARKING JOB AND A FIGHT ENSUES.
YEAH. YOU KNOW. BUT ANYWAY, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND DISAGREE OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL DONE, CLARA. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IT WAS I DON'T KNOW IF IT ALIGNED ANYWHERE.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I THINK 100%. YEAH. NUMBER ONE AND TWO ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY FROM WHAT I HAD.
YEP. THAT'S ME AS WELL. I MEAN LIKE THE BRIDGE AND TRAIL AT PASSIVE PARK.
AND THAT ONE, IT JUST DOESN'T SERVE THAT MANY PEOPLE.
AND YOU CAN STILL WALK THERE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE ROAD OR WHATEVER AND GET THERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT BRIDGE. IT'D BE NICE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I JUST FELT LIKE THAT WAS TOO MUCH AND IT COULDN'T BE DONE THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW. SO I WAS GOING FOR THIS YEAR. I WANT TO DO STUFF AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS TOO MANY FOR THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE WE CAN PICK THE TOP 4 OR 5.
WELL, AND SOME OF IT, I MEAN, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU COME DOWN TO LOOK AT TRUE COST, RIGHT? YEAH. BECAUSE DAVE AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION IS WELL, YES, IDEALLY I WOULD LOVE TO TACKLE AS MANY PROJECTS AS POSSIBLE.
LET'S SAY YOU ALL CAME UP WITH A LIST OF 50 THINGS.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF THIS IS TO NARROW IT DOWN.
SO STAFF TIME ISN'T PUT INTO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT COST IS THAT'S ASSOCIATED.
THE BRIDGE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. THE BRIDGE IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED OUT.
AND SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THAT, BUT THERE'S NOT FUNDING, RIGHT? SAME THING FOR BGP FOR SOCCER IS THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE.
THERE'S ALREADY A PLAN IN PLACE. THERE'S NO FUNDING TO DO IT.
TRANSITION PLAN. WE WENT OUT AND GOT A TRANSITION PLAN DONE AND COMPLETED THAT.
AND THERE IS NO FUNDING AVAILABLE. AND THERE'S MINIMAL FUNDING AVAILABLE.
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JUST TO THROW THAT IN THERE, AS I WAS SAYING THAT, I LOOKED IT UP FOR YOU, AARON.THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE ONES WE CAN ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT EASIER WITHIN OUR MAINTENANCE BUDGETS. PARK SPECIFICALLY WAS JUST UNDER $500,000 TO ADDRESS WITHIN CONNECTIVITY WITHIN PARKS ACCESS. THAT WAS ALL OF THEM. THAT'S ALL THE PARKS.
YEP. THE SIDEWALKS WAS ABOUT $250,000 TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SIDEWALKS.
IT WAS ABOUT 275,000. SO THE BIG ONES ARE THE ONES THAT MOST OF THOSE WE HAVEN'T, I CAN TELL YOU, WE'VE ADDRESSED SIDEWALKS AT PARKS OR SOME OF THEM TO CREATE THAT CONNECTIVITY.
SO, JASON, YOU SAID YOU HAD AN ADDITIONAL ITEM YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THIS.
YES. WISHLIST. SO ONE OF THEM, AND THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG THE SAME THING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESS AND PUBLIC ACCESS.
SO THERE IS A BRIDGE ON HENDERSON ROAD. THAT IS PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE DOWN THE WEST SIDE OF IT THAT TECHNICALLY CONNECTS THAT COMMUNITY TO GET TO FREEDOM PARK AND TO THE SCHOOLS THAT IS ACTUALLY UNDER CITY THAT IS CITY PROPERTY OR WE OWN THAT PROPERTY AND MAINTAIN IT. AND THAT BRIDGE IS IN SEVERE DISREPAIR AND IS BECOMING MORE OF A SAFETY CONCERN.
I MEAN, WITH THE BRIDGES AGAIN IT'S ON HENDERSON ROAD WHERE HERITAGE PARK IS.
YES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S A WOODEN BRIDGE.
WE WOULD JUST NEED TO EXPLORE A REPLACEMENT OF THE BRIDGE ITSELF.
IT'S STARTING TO GET TO A POINT THAT IT'S NOT JUST REPLACE BOARDS HERE AND THERE.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO CONSIDER A FULL REPLACEMENT.
ISN'T THAT RIGHT? BUT THAT BRIDGE IS ACTUALLY USED BY THE KIDS AT JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL TOO.
YES. IT'S PROBABLY GETTING MORE AND MORE USED WITH THAT NEW SUBDIVISION COMING IN. YES, YES, YES.
WE WOULD PROBABLY GO FOR A LIKE FOR LIKE TO GO IN THERE FOR REPLACEMENT.
SO IT WOULD COME OUT IF THEY DID HENDERSON THE PROJECT, RIGHT.
POTENTIALLY YOU HAVE TO DITCH. WOULDN'T IT BE A DITCH ANYMORE? RIGHT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S A DITCH COMING IN? IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A DITCH. IT'S PERPENDICULAR. YES.
YEAH. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE DITCH THAT THEN GOES UP AND BACK AND BEHIND.
I THINK YOU'RE THINKING OF THE WALKING TRAIL THAT RUNS NEXT TO IT.
I AM THINKING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BIG BRIDGE. IT'S THE WOODEN STREET. NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WALKING BRIDGE. I KNOW WHAT IT IS. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S IN FRONT OF THAT CHURCH, ISN'T IT? YES. YEAH. BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE.
GOES OVER. YEAH. AND IT WOULD BE CURBS AND SIDEWALKS IN THE UNDERGROUND.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIME. NO, THAT PROJECT MADE IT, DIDN'T IT? ISN'T THAT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE CITY TO DO? HENDERSON. I'LL ASK OUR CITY COUNCIL. IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY.
IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY. IT'S 20 MILLION. 28 MILLION.
WAS IT 20 BILLION? IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT. COME ON, 25.
OKAY. 50. 50. OKAY, OKAY. LIKE I SAID, PROBABLY NOT.
BILL. BILL. BILL. BILL. OKAY. I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD.
I KNEW IT WAS CRAZY. OH, YEAH. THAT'S STILL VERY SUBSTANTIAL.
OKAY. ANY OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OUT FOR OR AGAINST? THE ONLY ONE I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IS, WELL, NOT ONLY GOSH, WHO AM I KIDDING? THE STAGE OR AMPHITHEATER AT VETERANS PARK. MY, MY QUESTION WAS, AND I ONLY BRING IT UP BECAUSE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES RECENTLY DECIDED TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THEIR NOISE ORDINANCE.
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AND I KNOW MY MEMORY'S WORKING PRETTY WELL AT THIS MOMENT WITH THIS THING, BUT THERE WAS ALREADY SOME COMPLAINTS THAT WERE COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVED OVER THERE.WHEN WE WERE DOING CONCERT IN THE PARK AND ALL THAT.
SO I WOULD HAVE A LOT OF FEAR AND THE REPERCUSSIONS OF SPENDING MONEY TO PUT SOMETHING PERMANENT SOMEWHERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PLACE FILLED FOR MISS SIMMONS TO COUNCILWOMAN SIMMONS TO DEAL WITH IN RELATION TO NOISE.
JASON YOUNG HAVE THAT MANY NOISE PROBLEMS. I KNOW YOU HAD A ONE RELENTLESS NOISE COMPLAINT, RIGHT? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. AS PEOPLE COME AND GO THOUGH, RIGHT? AND WE START KIND OF I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE CLAIRE KIND OF ALLUDED TO, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE, BUT HOW OFTEN DOES IT GET USED? WELL, YOU MIGHT GET PEOPLE DOING IT EVERY WEEKEND AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE YOUR NOISES.
YOU MAYBE HIGHER, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
AND NOW YOU'VE GOT FOUR VOICES. SO I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE THAT MUCH MONEY.
PUT SOME SOMEPLACE, LIKE I SAID, WITH THAT KIND OF PERMANENCY AND NOT TO, YOU KNOW THE REASON WE LIKED IT IS THIS THE PARKING IS THERE, IT'S NOT OUR PARKING, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING THERE AND YOU CAN BLOCK IT OFF AND IT CAN BE SAVED FOR THE.
OH, YEAH. NO, I LOVE, I LOVE IT THERE. I AGREE, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST SAYING A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND THAT MUCH MONEY BEING PUT SOMEPLACE WHERE WE COULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN AT SOME POINT IN 5 OR 10 OR WHATEVER THE STAGE THAT THEY USED THERE.
AMY'S OVER THAT OVER CONCERTS. I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT, WHAT FUNDING COMES OUT OF, BUT YES, I THINK IT'S EDC. SO I MEAN, IT, IT GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
I WOULD ALSO SAY ON THIS ONE THOUGH, TO YOUR POINT IF WE WERE TO GO A ROUTE LIKE THAT, I WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT VETERANS PARK BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MASTER PLAN PIECE OF REALLY DEVELOPING WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE PARK. YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT MEANS ADDRESSING OUR PARKING THAT'S ALREADY THERE WHAT THAT LONG TERM LOOK FOR THAT SPACE IS BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, DOWNTOWN ITSELF IS STARTING TO MORPH.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY COME IN AND DO THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT AND REVITALIZE THAT ROAD, AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT BUSINESSES? AND THAT GOES ALL INTO PLAY. SO THERE'LL BE A COUPLE OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO.
BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY LIKE, YES, THE POINT'S VALID OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT CAME IN.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE THOSE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY COMPLAINTS WE GET ABOUT THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE FROM THINGS OF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIELDS TO HAVE LIGHTS ON THEM.
AND, AND SO THERE'S THAT COMES WITH THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
GET RID OF IT. YES. THAT'S KIND OF MORE WHAT MY, MY THOUGHT WAS, IS ACTUALLY THERE BEING, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE BEING MOVEMENT ON AN ORDINANCE OF SOME KIND THAT EVENTUALLY IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE COMPLAINT AS MUCH AS IT IS WHAT THE COMPLAINTS LEAD TO DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WRITTEN IN HERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE THE ORDINANCE PIECE OF IT WOULD AFFECT A CONCERT BECAUSE THEY ENDED NINE. THE REALITY IS WE WOULD STILL STAY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF.
AND SO THEY WOULD END IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO FOLLOW THE APPROPRIATE ORDINANCE.
BECAUSE THERE IS A TIMETABLE THAT'S PUT IN PLACE WITH THEM.
AND THE SAME THING, IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A RENTAL SPACE, HONESTLY, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BE MORE APT TO HAVE ISSUES, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS CONTROL.
SO YOU MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT AND HAVING PD GO OUT THERE AND GO REMINDER, YEAH, KEEP YOUR VOICE DOWN. WHEN IT'S A CITY EVENT, THAT'S PRETTY EASY WHEN YOU TELL THEM AHEAD OF TIME, LIKE YOU'VE GOT TO BE MINDFUL OF NOISE. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY THINGS TO CONSIDER. BUT I COULD I COULD DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING MINDFUL OF INTENT ON THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU DO.
NO, I'M SAYING IT. THE ONE WE CURRENTLY USE IS A RIGHT ONE THAT'S MOVED IN AND OUT.
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THAT'S WHY I SAY WE WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT A.ACTUAL MASTER PLAN FOR THAT SPACE, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT, IF YOU WERE TO PUT IN A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY CHANGE POTENTIAL ORIENTATION OF IT OR THE PARK ITSELF LOOK AND FEEL WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, IT USED TO HAVE A GAZEBO IN IT. AND SO THAT SPACE MADE SENSE WITH THE GAZEBO, BUT DOES THAT SPACE NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE WITH AN AMPHITHEATER? RIGHT. AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO THE CURRENT TREES THAT ARE THERE? DO YOU WANT AN AMPHITHEATER? AND THAT'S LITERALLY ALL THAT'S THERE.
AND THERE'S NO LAWN ON IN THE FRONT OF IT. AND SO YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THINGS OF DEVELOPING THAT FULL PARK OF WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? VERSUS IT NECESSARILY JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO POP A BUILDING IN THERE AND CALL IT A DAY.
SO I MEAN, THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS OF EVEN CHANGING THE ORIENTATION TO FACE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS. SO IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN, HEY, PUT AN AMPHITHEATER IN HERE, RIGHT? POP THAT IN THERE. YEAH. GOOD THING TO CONSIDER.
YEP. ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ON THIS? MADISON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS? ANYTHING THAT I THINK ADDITIONAL PARKING AT BATES PARK MIGHT BE REALLY IMPORTANT AND USEFUL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ME AND MY SIBLINGS GO THERE A LOT AND PLAY.
AND I KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE GOING THERE, IT'S LIKE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AREAS THERE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GO TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FIELDS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PARK, AND THEN YOU HAVE LIKE ALL THESE AREAS THAT KIDS DO GO TO.
IT DOES GET REALLY PACKED IN THERE. OKAY, GOOD.
AND JASON, WITH THIS NEW FIELD THAT'S COMING IN THERE, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA PARKING, BUT IT'S A BIT OF A WALK. IS THAT RIGHT? SO YES AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, WELL, IT'S TEMPORARY, BUT YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. SO WITH THE GIFT DEED THAT WE GOT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE BEST WAY TO SHOW THAT IS IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE FIELDS THREE IS THAT VACANT SPACE THAT GOES BEHIND THE KATZ ACADEMY BEHIND.
SO THAT LITTLE OFFSHOOT OF PARKING THAT WAS PART OF KATZ ACADEMY IS NOW CITY PROPERTY.
AND SO THERE IS SOME PAVED PARKING, BUT IT IS QUITE A DISTANCE FROM THE CURRENT FIELDS.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY DOUBLE WHAT YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY IS.
WOULD THAT BE DONE WITH ASPHALT, CONCRETE, GRAVEL? I WOULD IDEALLY WANT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE CONCRETE WOULD BE THE IDEAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE LONGEVITY THAT GOES WITH THAT LESS MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.
BUT I MEAN, WE COULD OBVIOUSLY EXPLORE ALL THOSE.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT THE SPACE WITHOUT IMPACTING ANY OF THOSE PECAN TREES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
YES, ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS A WIDE OPEN FIELD RIGHT NOW.
AND I MEAN MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, THAT SPACE WOULD BE MORE OF A RECREATIONAL FIELD IF WE OPEN IT TO THAT OR PARKING, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA AREAS THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PARKING LOCATION, BUT ON THE OTHER SPACE THAT I COULD SEE US DO PARKING AT IS WHERE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WERE IN THAT REVITALIZED FROM THE TENNIS COURTS, POTENTIALLY ADDING A SMALL PARKING LOT THERE TO ACCESS KINGSFIELD IN THAT SPACE.
BUT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT ON THAT PROPERTY.
I'D LIKE TO ADD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT PEOPLE UTILIZING THAT SPACE WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S A TOURNAMENT, RIGHT? IF THERE'S A DECISION BEING MADE WHERE THE PARKING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE.
THE MOST IMPORTANT IS WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT LIKE THAT THERE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE BIGGER PRIORITY BETWEEN THOSE TWO, LIKE I SAID, IF WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT PARKING BEING IN RELATIONSHIP TO ITS FULL BECAUSE THERE'S A TOURNAMENT HAPPENING, IT'S NOT REALLY BOTHERING THE PARENTS SO MUCH AS ACTUALLY THE COVERED SEATING IS, AND THAT WAS JUST FROM GOING AROUND TALKING TO PARENTS, ASKING THEM IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, LIKE WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT? LIKE. WE'LL WALK AS FAR AS WE NEED TO WALK, BUT WE'RE SITTING HERE FOR HOURS.
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CONSIDERED AND IT'S TO BENEFIT THE SOFTBALL FOLKS.THE SOFTBALL FOLKS WANT THAT COVERED SEATING MORE THAN THEY CARE ABOUT THE PARKING.
SO JUST TO PUT THAT, JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE INTO PERSPECTIVE, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE BIG EVENTS, THEY CLOSE THE PARK. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY NOT HELPING THE PARK, YOU'RE HELPING THEM.
EXACTLY. THEIR EVENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF MAKES ME GO AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY AND THAT'S WHY I SAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A PARK. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I SAY IF THAT'S WHO IT'S BEING MADE FOR IS THE PARKING IS ONLY CRAZY BECAUSE OF SOFTBALL.
THEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE PARKING IS THE WAY IT IS.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE SITTING FOR SIX HOURS AND THE HEAT WITHOUT ANY ANY COVERAGE.
SO I ASSUME THERE'S REGULAR SOFTBALL SEASON GAMES.
AND THEN WE HAVE ALL STARS AFTERWARDS DURING REGULAR SOFTBALL SEASON GAMES.
IS PARKING AN ISSUE? NO, BUT THE HEAT IS THE HEAT IS STILL AN ISSUE, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO TWO THINGS TO MENTION ON THAT BECAUSE GREAT POINTS.
ONE IS ABLAK HAS ALREADY ASKED STAFF TO BRING BACK SHADE COVERINGS FOR DISCUSSION THIS YEAR.
SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE ON THEIR AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK FOR POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION.
SO I CAN TELL YOU IT IS A PRIORITY THAT THEY HAVE CONSIDERED.
SO CAN WE JUST GIVE THEM A RECOMMENDATION SINCE THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS RELATIONSHIP WORKS THAT WE.
PERFECT. BECAUSE WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT IT DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT. SO THERE THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS THEY HAVE SAVED FROM BOND PROJECTS THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MUCH SHADE COVERING COSTS, BUT HERE WE ARE.
THE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION IS FOR THE PARKING ONE IS YES, PRIORITY.
HOWEVER, I WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S TAILORED MORE TOWARDS TOURNAMENT PIECES.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WHEN TOURNAMENTS HAPPEN AT BATES PARK, THAT PARK IS TAKEN OVER BY CARS.
AND SO WE RUN INTO A FEW MORE ISSUES AS TO HOW THAT GOES.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE WEATHER THAT WEEKEND? WHAT IS IT PRIOR TO THEIR PARKING? ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE. IF YOU WERE TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING, YOU COULD PROBABLY LIMIT THAT DOWN AND STILL ALLOW GENERAL PARK USAGE BECAUSE AND MAYBE NOT HAVE A FULL CLOSURE BECAUSE WE CLOSE IT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH AN INCONVENIENCE.
IF SOMEBODY IS COMING AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL, I LITERALLY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
VERSUS MAYBE HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE STRUCTURE TO THAT.
OTHER THINGS LIKE THE BASEBALL DURING THOSE TOURNAMENTS, THEY COULD GET LIKE GOLF CARTS AND SHUTTLE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH. NOT, NOT AS LONG AS THEIR SIGNAGE THAT SAYS THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED, I ASSUME.
IS THAT ACCURATE? OH, THE GOLF CARTS. YEP, YEP.
BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING I THOUGHT TOO WAS MAN, THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT MONEY.
YEAH, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AS AN ORGANIZATION. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHEN IT SAYS NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO THAT. IF YOU CAN ASK FOR EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE ON THAT, IF THAT'S PART OF THE LIKE YOUR PARKING PLAN TO MAKE IT SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE.
LIKE YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK FOR EXCEPTIONS ON THAT.
SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S A GOOD INSIGHT.
CLARIFIED SOME STUFF FOR ME. HOW MANY TOURNAMENTS PER YEAR? SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY BEING HELD THERE, IT'S LIKE, OH, DO YOU.
DO YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OFFHAND? I MEAN, I WAS GOING TO SAY, DID I THINK OF.
OH NO, NO SUBSTANTIAL CLOSURE WISE. THEY MIGHT HAVE 2 TO 3.
TOURNAMENT WISE YOU PROBABLY HAVE 8 TO 12 GOING UP.
YES. SOFTBALL PRETTY MUCH YEAR ROUND. YES. YES.
YEAH. SO YOU'LL HAVE YOUR MAINLY YOUR YOUR FALL AND SPRING SEASONS OR YOUR TWO BIG SEASONS.
AND SO YOU AVERAGED 3 TO 5 IF YOU WILL. FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THIS YEAR THOUGH THEY DID GET THE WIN, THE BID FOR ONE OF THE NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS. SO THAT ADDS AN EXTRA.
BUT YOU HAVE YOUR LOCAL TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, AT VARYING LEVELS, BUT THE NATIONAL ONE'S A BIG ONE, RIGHT? SO THEY MIGHT BID OUT ON SPECIFIC TOURNAMENTS THAT THEY CAN HOST THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE BROADER, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH PLAY AS THEY CAN.
SO THEY'RE USUALLY OFFERING ONE IF IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE A MONTH IS IS ABOUT RIGHT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY HAVE, BUT THEY VARY IN SCALE. THAT'LL GO THROUGH WITH LIKE AUGUST ABOUT IS WHEN THE FALL SEASON STARTS.
SO THEN THAT'S GOING AND RUNNING ALL THE WAY TO ABOUT THE END OF OCTOBER, SOMETIMES NOVEMBER.
I THINK YOUR INSIGHT RIGHT THERE MIGHT HAVE JUST BUMPED UP THAT SHADE COVERING A NOTCH OR TWO.
OH, AUGUST OUT THERE AS WELL. IT'S A JOY. I'LL TELL YOU.
IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, 110. IT'S AWFUL. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE.
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IS THAT THE ONE THAT'S SIX RIGHT YES, I KNOW, BUT LOOK AT THOSE.THOSE ARE A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE TIED. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE FOUR ABOVE IT ARE ALL TIED.
IT'S THE SAME. FOUR. SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S REALLY LIKE IN THE TOP THREE OF THINGS. IT JUST DIDN'T.
I THINK THAT FELL INTO SIX OR TO NINE. RIGHT.
COVERED SEATING AT BATES SOFTBALL FIELDS. THAT WAS NUMBER NINE. SO THAT WAS SIX. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE AHEAD OF IT. WERE ALL THE SAME SCORE JUST FIVE AHEAD OF IT WAS SO CLOSE. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, Y'ALL MAY DISAGREE WITH THE RANKINGS.
NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY DISCUSSION HERE.
YEAH. PRETTY SPOT ON. THEIR OWN INSIGHT AND THEIR OWN KNOWLEDGE AND THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH THIS. IS PARKING AN ISSUE AT FREEDOM PARK? I WOULD NOT SAY IT'S AS BIG OF AN ISSUE. THAT PARKING LOT IS MUCH LARGER THAN BATES PARK.
AND WHEN THEY HAVE A NATIONAL TOURNAMENT, THEY CAN THEY JUST HAVEN'T HAD ONE.
OKAY. AND THEY HAVE A STADIUM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
OKAY. YEAH, I JUST HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET. YES.
BUT THAT'S NOT LIKE THAT'S JUST THE MASTER PLAN, HAS IT? EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE RESUME FOR BOTH OF THEM. YOU HAVE A SIX FIELD COMING ONLINE AT BATES PARK, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING TO IMPACT REGULAR USAGE AND TOURNAMENT USAGE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIELD COMING ONLINE AT FREEDOM PARK.
AND SO THAT WILL ALSO IMPACT REGULAR USAGE AND POTENTIAL TOURNAMENT USAGE.
SO YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL PARKING AT FREEDOM.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN.
IT'S NOT CURRENTLY SLATED FOR THE NEW FIELD THEY'RE PUTTING IN.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE OVER BY. YEAH. WE'RE DOWNING CURRENTLY ENDS.
IT WOULD BE IF YOU WOULD JUST GO STRAIGHT. THAT IS WHERE IT WOULD BE SLATED FOR.
BUT IT IS NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED FOR THAT. SO ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SHARE SHARE ANY INSIGHT? THANK YOU. GREAT LIST. SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST HER.
YEAH. BUT IT LOOKS. I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS, SO.
WELL, I COULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE NUDGE IF THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR Y'ALL.
I CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITY. AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUNDED AT THE MOMENT, THEY'RE JUST COVERING THE COVERAGE. YEAH. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY'RE CONSIDERING THAT THEY'VE ASKED STRUCTURES IN ALL THE PARKS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
I DO TOO. WE ARE IN TEXAS. YEAH. IT'S MISERABLE.
BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S A HARD ONE FOR ME. SO EXAMPLE, I WILL GIVE THE LATEST QUOTE I RECEIVED ON THOSE WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE INCLUDED THE NEW FIELD BECAUSE THE NEW FIELD DOES NOT HAVE COVERED SEATING AT THAT FIELD.
BECAUSE YOU GOT THREE, FOUR, FIVE, I'D HAVE TO GO.
AND MAYBE IT DOES INCLUDE IT. BUT THE QUOTE I GOT WAS JUST UNDER $100,000.
COME ON, JASON, WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. EXPRESSED AS A B C R.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH FAVOR WE ARE FOR THE CHILDREN? WE'LL KEEP IT ON THIS LIST. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BABIES. AND TRULY, THOUGH.
I MEAN, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN A SIDELINE SIBLING OR PARENT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LITERALLY BABIES OUT THERE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO ENDURE THOSE. BUT THIS IS LIKE THE ONES THAT YOU TALK ABOUT, LIKE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING LIKE THE POT OF MONEY YOU HAVE IS LIMITED.
RIGHT? AND WE JUST MENTIONED THAT OUR ADA STUFF THAT IS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN AVERAGE OF $200,000 A YEAR THAT WAS DEDICATED, DEDICATED TO ADA WAS ZERO. AND SO WE ARE REALLY NOW COMING INTO YEAR FIVE FOR THAT.
AND SO THE MILLION DOLLARS THEY PROJECTED BEFORE MIGHT BE 1.2, 1.5 NOW.
RIGHT. AND WE'VE SCRATCHED THINGS OFF THE LIST, BUT THEY STILL SIT THERE AS ITEMS ON THE LIST THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, AND WE WANT TO ADDRESS THEM. WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE WITH PAVILION UPGRADES AND ADDITIONS THAT.
MASTERSON WAS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC? BECAUSE I KNOW I THINK IT WAS BACK IN OCTOBER, WE TALKED ABOUT MASTERSON, POSSIBLY ONE OF THE MOST UTILIZED PAVILIONS, MOST RENTED PAVILION. REALLY? YEAH. BECAUSE IT HAS A DEDICATED SPACE TO THE PLAYGROUND.
AND SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ISOLATED. I THINK FREEDOM PARK DOESN'T HAVE A LARGE PAVILION.
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SO YOU DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OUT THERE. BATES PARK OR DICKEY IS PROBABLY THE SECOND MOST BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THAT'S COVERED AND SHADED. YOU HAVE WELL SHADED THE SHADE THERE.YES. MASTER SENT EXACTLY THAT. RIGHT. SO DICKEY AND MASTERSON ARE PROBABLY THE TWO.
AND THE, THE ONE PLAYER I WOULD SAY THAT IF ANYTHING, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PAVILION, BATES PAVILION, A PAVILION ONE IS A HIGHER PRIORITY TO ME.
YEAH. BECAUSE THERE IS NO 100% THERE IS ZERO.
THERE IS. THAT'S THE ONE I WAS GLAD TO SEE. YEAH.
YES IT WAS. YES IT WAS. SO IT WOULD. AND THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.
SO WITH PAVILION UPGRADES AND ADDITIONS. YES.
DOES THE DISHES INCLUDE THE START OF OUR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND? IT CERTAINLY COULD. PERFECT. SO I THINK I WILL MENTION WITH THAT ONE QUICKLY BECAUSE I WANT TO BE MINDFUL EVERYBODY'S TIME.
THAT ONE I COULD SAY THAT MIGHT BE A SEPARATE OFFSHOOT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR ADA.
I WOULD MAYBE CONSIDER THAT ONE IF THAT WAS THE DIRECTION YOU ALL WANTED TO GO.
WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT A FULLY INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND OR PLAY SPACE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I WOULD TACKLE THAT ONE AS A PRIORITY THAT IS LOOKING TO BE SELF-FUNDED, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE HERE. YOU'RE NOT RELIANT ON.
RIGHT? YOU'RE FINDING AVENUES TO GO OUT AND GET COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, GET SPONSORSHIP, GET GRANTS.
THAT THE FUNDING NEEDED FOR THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY LIMITED.
A TRUE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND IS COSTLY. YEP. DID YOU SAY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT YOU KNEW ABOUT THE GENERAL COST OF THE PEARLAND ONE? YES. THEIRS WAS I BELIEVE THE THEIR COST CAME IN AT 1.2, 1.3 JUST FOR THE PLAYGROUND.
THERE'S THEY ALREADY HAD THE FRAMEWORK AROUND THAT WITH PARKING WITH THEIR MIRACLE FUEL AND ALL THAT, JUST THEIR PLAYGROUND. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT IT'S COSTLY JUST TO MAKE SOMETHING FULLY INCLUSIVE.
I WILL SAY THERE'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLAYGROUND.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU GET THE RIGHT PARTNER ON BOARD THAT DESIGNS THESE INTENTIONALLY, THEY LOVE THAT. THEY LOVE MAKING IT TO WHERE IT'S, THEY GET TO FULLY EMBRACE THAT, BUT THEY'RE COSTLY.
I MEAN, THAT'S TO FOCUS ON A PLAYGROUND ONLY.
OVER $1 MILLION. THAT'S QUITE A BIT COMPARISON IS FREEDOM PARKS PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO BE REPLACED AND IT'S GOING TO COST US JUST UNDER 400,000, I THINK IT WAS. SO LIKE, IF YOU TAKE ABIGAIL, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PLAYGROUND, A COUPLE PLAYGROUNDS IN THERE.
SO DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO MAKE ONE OF THEM COMPLIANT, OR DO WE NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPLIANT TO DEAL WITH THAT? SO YOU COULD. BUT HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE TALKING? I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF GONE DOWN THAT WAY, BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW PARK, AT LEAST TO PUT ONE IN, THEN IT WOULD AN AMOUNT OF COST INSTEAD OF 500,000, IT MIGHT COST 750,000.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL GETTING MORE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AT LEAST GETTING AN ADA COMPLIANT ONE.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT THEN.
SO ADA COMPLIANCE AND FULLY ACCESSIBLE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FULLY ACCESSIBLE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISABILITIES THAT RANGE DRASTICALLY VERSUS SAYING ADA COMPLIANCE IS THAT YOU CAN GET THERE AND YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, TO UTILIZE THE EQUIPMENT VERSUS FULLY IMMERSIVE OF HOW DO I INCORPORATE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY INCLUDED DOESN'T GET ISOLATED, THAT EVERY PIECE THAT'S ON YOUR PLAYGROUND IS ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE, THAT NO MATTER WHO GOES OUT THERE, THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME ACCESS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A COST THAT COMES WITH THAT ONE. AND I CAN EVEN TELL YOU FROM THE SIDE OF, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIRS IN AND IT'S BEEN THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO NOW.
SO THAT COST ITSELF HAD GONE UP. SO ABIGAIL IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
THE BERM PLAYGROUND AND PLAY SURFACE IS GOING TO COST US $500,000 JUST FOR THAT PLAYGROUND.
AND IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL PLAYGROUND, BUT WHEN YOU'RE THINKING THE ACCESSIBILITY PIECE OR THE INCLUSION PIECE, THERE'S A DEFINITELY DIFFERENT COST. I FIND IT SO FUNNY HOW YOU PROBABLY ARE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MY ABILITIES.
EVERYTHING'S ALWAYS POTENTIALLY HIGHER. YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE FRAMEWORK TO SAY FROM THE MOMENT THAT YOU GET TO THAT, THAT, THAT PLAYGROUND, HOW DO I ACCESS IT?
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AND HOW DO I CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT THAT IS THROUGHOUT? AND SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY MAKING A LARGER FOOTPRINT.AND SO EXAMPLE OF LIKE IS THERE'S THIS FENCE, THERE'S THIS FENCED IN BECAUSE SOME.
INDIVIDUALS MAY NEED THAT SENSORY PIECE, THOUGH THEY KNOW IT'S NOT A FREE FOR ALL TO RUN OUT.
OKAY, FALL SURFACE ENDS THERE. WE'RE DONE. RIGHT.
THEY'RE GIVING THAT FEEL IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I WOULD SAY FOR THAT ONE, I WOULD, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT WOULD BE MAYBE A SEPARATE CATEGORY OF SAYING, MAYBE THE PARKS BOARD WANTS TO TAKE THIS ON AS AN INITIATIVE TO FUND A FULLY INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LIST OF DONORS IS GOING TO BE 100 LONG OUTSIDE THAT PLAYGROUND OWNERS AND SPONSORS.
OKAY. SO IF WE CAN WRAP THIS UP, START WRAPPING THIS UP HERE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY FOR OR AGAINST THINGS THEY WANT TO? SO THE, THE PLAN HERE IS IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, YOU WILL GET AN EMAIL FROM ME WITH THIS LIST ON HERE.
YOU CAN USE CLARA'S EVALUATION LIST HERE. THAT'S WHAT'S DONE SO WELL.
AND EMAIL ME BACK. YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND JASON BACK AND THEN JASON, I'LL GET TOGETHER IN A MONTH OR SO AND COMPILE A LIST, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT LIST TO THE JUNE MEETING TO GET FORMALLY ACCEPTED OR NOT.
DOES THAT SOUND AMENABLE TO EVERYBODY? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
AND THEN, JASON, YOU'LL GET THE ADA LIST. YES.
OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO THE LAST THING IS THE COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
[COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS]
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO VENT ABOUT, COMPLAIN ABOUT COMPLEMENT, ABOUT OBSERVATIONS IN THE PARKS.AARON, WE'LL START WITH YOU. NOPE. NOTHING. NOTHING.
I KNOW IT'S MY IT'S MY KRYPTONITE. BUT NOT TODAY.
TODAY. I KNOW PEOPLE NEED TO GO. IT'S 107 HERE.
OKAY. SAVE IT FOR THE NEXT ONE, JESSICA. SAME, SAME.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LITTLE, LITTLE THINGS. JASON.
DID I READ ABOUT SOME VANDALISM IN PARKS OVER SPRING BREAK AND EASTER? YES. IF YOU COULD SPREAD THE WORD TO JUST ASK PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PARKS.
WE HAVE HAD A RASH OF THINGS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WE HAD SOME GRAFFITI DONE AT LAKESIDE PARK WHERE THEY WROTE SOME CHOICE WORDS ON THE PURIM PLAY.
STAFF WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT ONE WITH SOME SCRUBBING AND PRESSURE WASHING.
KEEP IN MIND THAT'S NOT IDEAL. IT'S POUR IN PLACE SURFACE. SO THERE'S RUBBER MATERIAL. SO THE MORE YOU DIG AWAY AT THAT, THE MORE ISSUES IT BECOMES. WE HAD FREEDOM PARK BATHROOMS GOT TRASHED AND TRASHED.
THE TOILETS ARE FILLED WITH TRASH AND CLOGGED AND THEN TRASH ALL THROUGHOUT THE EXTERIOR OF IT.
AND THEY WE COULD NOT GET THAT OFF. SO WE ACTUALLY HAD TO PAINT OVER IT AND HAVE TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PAINT THAT ENTIRE COURT BECAUSE NOW IT JUST HAS A REALLY DARK, FRESH LINE ON IT.
SO YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO BE A PRIORITY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
WE CAN CATCH THESE VANDALS. WE ARE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THINGS RELATED TO CAMERAS.
USUALLY IT'S MARKER. AND SO WE CAN GET THAT OFF DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER.
IT'S THE ONES THAT THEY'RE USING THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE PERMANENT. THE COURT, LIKE I SAID, THEY COULDN'T PRESSURE WASH IT, THEY COULDN'T SCRUB IT. THEY COULDN'T GET ANYTHING TO GET IT OFF. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THE TRASH CANS IN THE BATHROOM.
I WAS JUST WONDERING. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT CHAINS AROUND THE TRASH CANS AND PUT THEM OUTSIDE WHERE THEY CAN'T MOVE THEM OR SOMETHING.
NO, THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO BE LOCKED WHEN THE PARK'S CLOSED. OKAY, SO THIS TYPICAL.
THIS IS HAPPENING DURING THE DAY, OKAY? DURING OPENING, LIKE WHEN THE PARK IS OPEN.
GOTCHA. OKAY, SO AS FAR AS THE PLAYGROUNDS ARE CONCERNED.
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I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF PARENT DISCREPANCY ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN BEING FILMED? IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AT A CERTAIN TIME ONLY.YEAH. BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.
AND I MEAN, IT'S ALL CONFIDENTIAL. AND SO WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULD WORK WITH PD AND WE SAW SOME, I CAN TELL YOU BRIEFLY, WE DID HAVE SOMEBODY TAGGING PREVIOUSLY AND THE PICTURES WERE TAKEN, THANKFULLY, OF THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT WERE FORWARDED TO US AND PD WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO DID IT.
THANKFULLY, THE SAME THING THAT WAS A MARKER.
SO IT WAS EASILY DONE, BUT THAT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.
OKAY, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PASSIVE AREA AT LAKESIDE PARK AT FREEDOM PARK AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, VEHICLES COMING IN FROM BOTH ENDS NOW DRIVING, DRIVING IN THERE AND DRIVING AROUND THAT LAKE BACK THERE.
SO I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN WHEN THOSE HAPPENED, BUT WE HAD JUST WENT THROUGH FINAL REVIEW WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO DUG OUT THAT SPACE. AND SO THERE WERE SOME CITY AND CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES THAT DID HAVE ACCESS RECENTLY.
SO THESE WERE PEOPLE, THESE WERE PEOPLE. OKAY.
YEAH, BUT THERE'S TIRE TRACKS AROUND THAT. OH YEAH. YES, I KNOW.
YEAH. AND SO IF PEOPLE ARE GOING ON THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO DAMAGE THE INTENT OF WHAT IT'S THERE FOR. SO THE CONSTRUCTION OF FREEDOM WITH THE PLAYGROUND AND THE BALL FIELD LOOKED FANTASTIC. CONSTRUCTION SITES ARE NICE AND CLEAN AND ORGANIZED.
FIELD AT BATES. LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVING ALONG GREAT.
SO IT SHOULD BE DONE THIS WEEK. LOTS OF STUFF GOING ON.
ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. IT'S GOOD TO SEE. IT IS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR YOUR FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE.
OKAY. SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL ADJOURN THE PARKS AND REC MEETING AT 113.
GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.