Jun 15, 2026 Angleton Better Living Corporation

AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT ONE.

AND, UH, WE DID FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO UTILIZE THEM THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, BUT NOTHING COMPARED TO WHERE THEY WERE AT.

UH, AND SO, I MEAN, A LOT OF THEM SAW THEIR HOURS DROP TO FIVE HOURS A WEEK, MAYBE.

UM, WHEN WE COULD FIND THINGS TO THEM SUPPORT.

SO THE PROGRAMMING FOR THE REC CENTER, THE, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, EVENTS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ON MM-HMM .

OUT OF ALL THE EVENTS, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE ABOUT 90%, 60%? ARE THERE MORE PROGRAMS STILL TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN HERE? UM, FOR THE REC CENTER, THE BIGGEST PROGRAM, UH, SPECIFICALLY IF WE TALK ABOUT THE 60 DIVISION WITH SWIM LESSONS, SO THERE'S EXPENSES RELATED TO THAT, UM, THAT HAVEN'T COME IN YET.

UH, SO YOU SEE THE REVENUES HAVE COME IN, MOST PEOPLE HAVE REGISTERED FOR THAT, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THAT EXPENSE YET.

SO THAT'S ONE PROGRAM WISE, UH, FOR REC CENTER SPECIFICALLY, OTHER THAN THAT, MOST OF THEIR PROGRAMMING WILL BE DONE.

UH, REC DIVISION IS VERY SIMILAR.

UM, BUT SAME THING, EXPENSE WISE, SUMMER CAMP IS GONNA BE THEIR BIG EXPENSE, UH, TRACK CAMP, UH, AND VOLLEYBALL.

UH, SO YOU'LL STILL SEE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, PART-TIME SELLERS EQUATED TO THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS PROGRAM SUPPORT, A LOT OF THAT PORTION IS, HAS ALREADY, UM, TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE THE PREP FOR THAT AND BUSY SEASON THIS SUMMER.

SO, AND THEN THEY WON'T HAVE ANYTHING PROGRAM WISE UNTIL REALLY OCTOBER.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO GET OUR NEXT MONTHLY UPDATE? SALES TAX? JUST GOT ONE.

UH, SO THE ONE WE JUST GOT WAS, UH, LIKE ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

AND SO THE NEXT ONE WILL BE TOTAL JULY, BEGINNING OF JULY.

SUSIE, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT FINANCIALLY ON A BLC BEING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE, OUR REVENUES ARE DOWN HALF OF WHAT WE THOUGHT THEY'D BE IT.

SO THE ONLY LINE THAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO IS THE CONTINGENCY LINE? YEAH.

BY ALL MEANS, BY MOST ACCOUNTS, NO.

THE REST OF THE STUFF WE SHOULD BE, UH, RIGHT ON 0.4, WE, A LOT OF THE CURRENT ITEMS FOR A BLC ARE TIED TO BOND PROJECTS.

AND SO OTHER THAN ANYTHING, ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY FOR BOND, UH, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO THE BOND CURRENTLY, UH, UNLESS WE DECIDE TO TAP INTO ANY OF THE OTHER CURRENT FUNDING.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CURRENT PARK PROJECTS SUPPORTED BY ANGLETON, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.

ANYBODY ELSE ON ONE BEFORE I GO TO TWO? DR. JACKSON? CHANCE TO LOOK? SURE.

I'M GOOD THOUGH.

I'M GOOD.

THANKS, TRAVIS.

[2. Update, discussion, and possible action on current Park projects supported by Angleton Better Living Corporation. ]

UM, SO, UH, I'LL GO OVER THE SHEET I PASSED OUT IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT JUST TO KINDA GIVE Y'ALL, UH, UPDATES ON, UH, OUR CURRENT STATUS OF OUR PROJECTS, UM, SPECIFICALLY AS THEY RELATE TO A BLC FUNDED PROJECT OR SUPPORTER PROJECTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

'CAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS MM-HMM .

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UH, SO ONE OF THEM BEING ABIGAIL ARIAS, UM, THAT PROJECT CONTINUES TO MOVE ALONG.

UH, THEY'VE DONE THE MAJORITY OF THEIR GRADING WORK, UH, CONTINUING TO WORK ON, UH, UTILITY, UH, INSTALLATION.

UH, THEY ARE GETTING PREPPED FOR THEIR, SOME OF THEIR HARDSCAPE, SO THEY SHOULD BE POURING CONCRETE FOR THE PARKING LOT, HOPEFULLY IF THE WEATHER COOPERATES, UH, FRIDAY AS A CURRENT PLAN.

THEY WORK SLATED FOR, OBVIOUSLY TODAY.

DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR TODAY, BUT, UH, HOPEFUL FOR FRIDAY.

UM, AND SO THEY SHOULD BE WORKING ON THAT, WHICH THEN SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY THE PAVILION STRUCTURE, THE PAVILION, UH, UH, SLAB AS WELL.

UH, SO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

UH, PLAYGROUND AND SPLASH PAD EQUIPMENT IS SLATED TO BE IN-HOUSE BY EARLY TO MID-JULY, UH, AND THEN FOLLOW AS LONG AS THE WEATHER COOPERATES, AND THEY CAN GET THE SLAB IN FOR THE PAVILION.

THAT SHOULD GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL THREE CONTRACTORS TO BE ON SITE.

UH, THE MAIN COMPONENT IS GETTING THE SLAB FOR THE PAVILION DONE FIRST, SO THEY CAN START THAT PART.

UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG.

THE ONLY MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO RIGHT NOW FOR, UH, ABIGAIL IS THE SEWER LINE.

AND SO THE SEWER LINE TIE IN THAT WE HAD, UH, WE HAVE HAD TO EXPLORE REROUTING THAT PROJECT.

PART OF THAT COMING, UH, IN TO THE MANHOLE WE TRY TO TIE INTO, AS WELL AS, UH, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT THAT WAS ALONG THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE CHURCH, WHICH WAS NOT LABELED CORRECTLY AND WAS LABELED THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

UH, AND YOU CANNOT PUT A, UH, A UTILITY, UH, ON A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO NAVIGATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND EXPLORE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS.

UH, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT PROPERTY TO ENGAGE TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DEDICATE A UTILITY EASEMENT.

UH, THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE MOST FAVORABLE, UH, RESPONSE ON IT, UH, JUST YET, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK TO SEE HOW WE CAN MITIGATE THAT.

UH, FINAL OPTION WOULD BE, UH, TO GO TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND GO ALONG OUR RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WOULD BE A MUCH MORE COSTLY OPTION, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD GO UNDERNEATH, UH, THE DRIVE FOR THE APARTMENTS TO TIE IN.

AND SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE UNDERGROUND WORK VERSUS, UH, BLANK SLATE.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THAT TO NAVIGATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, BUT EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO JUST KNOW THERE'S, UH, PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL COST THAT'S GONNA COME TO, UH, MITIGATE THAT PROJECT.

SO, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE MOVING ALONG.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY MADE MORE PROGRESS, UH, WITH THE CURRENT, UH, WEATHER THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, TO GET PREPPED FOR A LOT OF THEIR HARDSCAPE.

SO, UM, GLAD TO SEE THAT ONE MOVING ALONG, BUT KNOW THAT THERE'S, UH, MORE TO COME ON THAT ONE.

UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DRIVE BY, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.

A LOT OF THE BIS ALREADY IN PLACE, AND SO IT REALLY ADDS A, A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ELEMENT.

AS I MENTIONED, THEY'VE ALREADY LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PARKING LOT, AND SO IT'S STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE JUST SLOWLY BUT SURELY AS WE NAVIGATE SOME, UH, MINOR HURDLES.

SO, UH, FREEDOM PARK, UH, SIMILAR BOATS, UH, MINUS THE, THEY ARE BEING IMPACTED MORE GREATLY ON THE WEATHER.

UH, WE DID HAVE A SITE VISIT LAST FRIDAY, UH, WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND, UH, OUR DESIGN TEAM, UH, TO TALK ABOUT CONCERNS.

UH, AS FAR AS WHAT THE CURRENT FIELD LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE ARE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE BACK FOR THEM, UH, ON ELEVATION OF THE FIELD.

SO BERTA IS PUTTING TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO ELEVATE THE ENTIRE FIELD, UH, TO MITIGATE, UH, SOME OF THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU THE CURRENT FIELDS, UH, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT AT GRADE, THE CONCERN IS WHERE DOES THAT WATER GO TO AFTERWARDS? AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT COST ASSOCIATED WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

UH, AGAIN, EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS LOCAL AS WELL.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

THEY HAVE SOME DIRT, AND SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET DIRT FREE AND HAVE IT LOCAL, UH, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY HELP WITH THAT PROJECT.

UM, BUT THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS JUST WEATHER.

ANYTIME IT RAINS, IT POOLS IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FINISH GRADING FOR.

UM, AND IT JUST HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT OUT.

SO THAT ONE'S ACTUALLY BEING IMPACTED GREATER THAN I WOULD SAY, ABIGAIL, AT THIS, AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS TIME WISE.

SO THEY'RE PROBABLY, UM, BASED ON CURRENT WEATHER DELAYS CLOSE TO A MONTH BEHIND ON THAT PROJECT.

SO, UH, SO JASON, YES.

SO, SO YOU SAID THAT THE DIRT'S GONNA BE FREE, THE COST OF MOVING THE DIRT, WILL THERE BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? THEY, THEY ARE, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER A PER A POTENTIAL COST

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ESTIMATE FOR THAT.

UH, THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW MUCH DIRT THEY NEED FIRST.

UH, AND THEN WE WOULD EXPLORE ADDITIONAL AVENUES WHETHER THAT BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY LEVERAGE PUBLIC WORKS.

UH, LOOPY HAS EVEN, UH, SAID HE WOULD GO OUT THERE AND HE HAS A CDL, SO HE'LL DRIVE A DUMP TRUCK IF WE NEED TO.

UM, AND SO I WANT TO SEE THAT.

YEAH, SO EXPLORING ALL AVENUES THAT WE CAN, UH, ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT HAS ALSO SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING PARTNERS THAT IF THEY WERE ON SITE, THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY LOAD THE DIRT.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE, UH, EVERY POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT COST.

BUT YES, UH, THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO MOVE THAT.

UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, MITIGATE THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

BRILLIANT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? UM, GO DO AN A, SORRY.

SAY, UM, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THE BIRD DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

I MEAN, IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS ALL AT GRADE, PRETTY MUCH THAT LITTLE SWELL DITCH WASN'T GOING TO CUT IT.

AND SO, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I SEE YET.

I WOULD AGREE.

I SEE, UH, FUTURE DRAINAGE PROJECT THERE.

SO THE HOPE IS WE CAN MITIGATE THIS NOW, UM, TO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF YOU'RE GONNA, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY CONFIGURED, UM, THAT FIRST BY SIDE, UH, STANDS AREA MM-HMM .

IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE STANDING UNDER WATER IF YOU DON'T, IF WE DON'T START PUSHING WATER AWAY FROM IT AND, UH, DRAINING IT AWAY TO THAT SLEW OR DITCH OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, I'M JUST SAYING, I, I THINK I COULD SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE A, A DITCH IN A, IN A, PERHAPS A BRIDGE WALK PATH OR SOMETHING EVENTUALLY THAT, UH, KIND OF CARRY THAT WATER AWAY.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST IT SITS REALLY TIGHT TO THAT, TO THAT DITCH LINE.

IT DOES.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME WORRIED THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT MUCH EVENTUALLY, I MEAN, AS IT BUILDS OUT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY TO TRY TO BUILD THIS OUT.

I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST PUTTING STANDS ON ONE SIDE, SO I SUGGEST I PROBABLY GO ON THE THIRD BASE SIDE.

FIRST BASE SIDE'S A LITTLE TIGHT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT ON THAT SIDE EVENTUALLY, WHENEVER IT DOES DEVELOP.

SO THE, AS WELL AS THE FIELDS, UH, INCREASE IN THE FIELD HEIGHTS, UM, ARE GRADING, UH, THEY ARE LOOKING AT, UH, WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SWELL, UH, LONG-TERM, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HELP MOVE THAT WATER.

UH, THAT WAS THE, THE TWO BIGGEST THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ON SITE WAS WHEN I WALKED WITH BIRD, IT WAS GIVING THEM DIRECTION TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE TO RAISE THE FIELD TO MITIGATE LONG-TERM DRAINAGE ON THE FIELD.

BUT EVEN, UH, GOING BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL GRADE, WHICH HASN'T, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS.

IT'S THAT WHAT DOES THE STANDING WATER LOOK LIKE OFF THE FIELD? YEAH, I THINK THAT FIRST BASE SIDE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT HAD A LITTLE RAIN, YOU MAY BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY, BUT ANY VISITORS OR WHOEVER'S SITTING ON THAT FIRST BASE SIDE WILL BE SITTING IN A MARSH.

AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT, UH, FURTHER, UH, DIGGING OUT SOME OF THAT SWELL AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, BECAUSE OF WHERE THE FIELD IS, THAT'S A LONG TREK TO MAKE.

IT'S, AND SO IT'S, WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ONE.

UH, AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT, UH, THE DRAINAGE AT THE DITCH, UH, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE SOME COORDINATION IS THE CURRENT, UM, TRAIL THERE THAT MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP IN REGRADING THAT HAPPENS THERE TO BE ABLE TO DROP THAT INLET BACK IN.

UM, SO DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MITIGATE.

UH, HELPING TO ROLL OUT THE FIELD.

UH, AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE, THE MAIN CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD ON SITE WAS, UM, WHAT IS THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.

UH, AND SO RIGHT NOW I'M JUST WAITING ON NUMBERS TO COME BACK AND HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT THAT.

UM, NEXT ONE WILL BE FREEDOM PARK PLAYGROUNDS.

UH, UH, HAPPY TO REPORT THIS ONE IS COMPLETE.

UH, THE PLAYGROUND IS UP AND RUNNING.

UH, THE ONLY MINOR ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS IF WE COULD GET SOME GOOD WEATHER.

UH, WE JUST HAVE TO REMOVE SOME, UM, OLD MULCH AND NEW MULCH THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP US.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GO TO ONE OF OUR PARKS THAT NEEDS IT.

UM, AND SO ONCE WE GET GOOD WEATHER, THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO GET OUR EQUIPMENT IN THERE.

WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THAT OUT.

BUT THE PLAYGROUND IS IN, IT'S BEING USED, UM, BY, UH, STAFF AND BY, UH, THE PUBLIC.

AND SO THEY'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT ONE.

UH, AND WE'VE HEARD GREAT FEEDBACK THUS FAR ON THAT PROJECT.

UH, A LOT OF FUN.

UM, BATES PARK, UH, FIELD SIX, UH, THEY CONTRACTOR, UH, WAS BACK ON SITE THIS WEEK, UH, DOING SOME PUNCH LIST ITEMS,

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THEY WERE TRYING TO HELP US WITH A, A DR.

UH, SOME WATER THAT WE NOTICED THAT STARTED PULLING IN THE, UH, LEFT FIELD.

UH, SO THEY'RE HELPING, UH, FORMULATE SOME PLANTS FOR THAT.

THEY'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING REGRADE SOME OF THE SWELL BETWEEN FIELD THREE AND SIX, UH, AND WORKING ON THAT TO HELP WITH FIELD CONDITIONS.

UH, BUT, UH, OUR TEAM GOT OUT THERE THIS WEEK AND WE'VE COORDINATED WITH A GSA, AND WE HAVE STARTED TO PREP THAT FIELD TO GET US READY FOR, UH, JULY.

UH, SPOKE WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR, UH, THE, THE DUGOUT ROOFS, AND THEY SHOULD BE ON SITES AS LONG AS THAT SOME OF THEIR OTHER PROJECTS ARE ABLE TO FINISH UP.

THEY SHOULD BE ON SITE NEXT WEEK TO, TO GET THOSE ROOFS PUT IN.

AND THEY SAID IT SHOULD ONLY TAKE THEM, UM, A WEEK AT MOST TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO, UM, AND THEN OUR STAFF WILL INSTALL THE, UH, BENCHES AND THAT PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE.

UH, REC CENTER WISE, UH, THE REC CENTER POOL IS BACK OPEN, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

SO EXCITED THAT THAT REOPENED JULY 1ST OR JULY JUNE 1ST.

UM, AND SO BEEN SEEING GREAT USAGE THERE.

UH, WE ARE, UH, WORKING THROUGH A COUPLE ADDITIONAL ITEMS IN THE, THE POOL AREA.

UH, WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK, UH, AT A LATER DATES, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT READY TO GO.

UH, TRY TO, UH, UTILIZE OUR, UH, CURRENT OPERATIONAL BUDGET AS WELL AS, UH, FULL CAPACITY OF THE BOND STUFF.

UM, AND SO MORE TO COME ON THAT ONE.

BUT THERE'S, UH, SOME OF, WE'VE HAD, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME PUMP REPLACEMENTS FOR LONGEVITY WISE.

AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE MORE TO THEM THAT, BUT POOL IS OPEN, NOT IMPACTING THAT.

UH, WE DID HAVE ONE OF OUR PLAY FEATURE COMPONENTS, UH, HAD HAD A MANUFACTURING DEFECT, AND SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO COME IN THAT SHOULD, UH, SHOULD BE SHIPPING THIS WEEK.

SO HOPEFUL TO HAVE THAT IN NEXT WEEK.

HAVEN'T HAD ANY REALLY NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE NOTICE THAT IT'S NOT ON, UM, AND, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A REPLACEMENT ON THAT COMPONENT.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, PEOPLE HAVE LOVED IT THUS FAR.

SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND ONCE WE WRAP UP THOSE, WE'LL START TO MOVE ON TO THE OTHER AREAS OF THE FACILITY.

UH, NEXT PRIORITY WOULD BE GOING TO THE GYM.

AND SO WE CAN GET, UH, A PLAN TOGETHER FOR THAT ONE FOR RIGHT AFTER SUMMER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO AND DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE GYM, UM, AND CONTINUE TO USE THAT BOND CAPACITY.

JASON? MM-HMM .

I NOTICED THAT, I THINK WE WERE AT THE GYM THE OTHER DAY AND JUST REALIZED HOW BUSY THE GYM IS NOW.

I MEAN, THE, UH, IT'S LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST UNUSUALLY BUSIER NOW THAN WAS EARLIER.

I GUESS JUST THE BUZZ AROUND THE NEW POOL FEATURE.

AND EVEN THOUGH, LIKE YOU SAY ABOUT THE, UH, THE GYMNASIUM ITSELF AS OPPOSED TO THE AUDITORIUM, IT'S LIKE, UH, IT'S BUSY THERE AS WELL.

BECAUSE A LOT OF GUYS ARE PLAYING BASKETBALL TOO THIS TIME OF YEAR.

SO WE WERE LIKE CURIOUS, LIKE COMING UP FOR JUNE, NUMBERS OF THIS YEAR AND JULY, NUMBERS OF THIS YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR, COMPARING OUR NUMBERS NOW FOR DAY PASSES AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR.

THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY INTERESTING TAKE, UH, ON JUST THE, THE USAGE OF THE, UH, THE REC CENTER NOW.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, UH, WE MENTIONED THIS IN COUNCIL WHEN WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE, UH, ONE OF THE POSTS WE PUT OUT THAT WAS THE VIDEO ABOUT THE NEW PLAY FEATURE AND EVERYTHING BEING PUT IN, UH, PLAY.

UH, THE LAST NUMBERS I RECEIVED, IT WAS JUST SOUTH OF 400,000 VIEWS.

VERY GOOD.

UH, AND SO IT JUST TELLS YOU THE FOOT TRAFFIC AND THE, UH, INCREASED AWARENESS OF OUR FACILITY.

UM, AND I WOULD AGREE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SEEING GREATER USAGE AROUND THE ENTIRE FACILITY.

UM, AND SOME OF IT, I THINK I ATTRIBUTE TO THAT WE, BECAUSE THE POOL WAS CLOSED FOR SO LONG, IT FELT VERY QUIET FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, AND NOW THAT IT'S OPEN, IT'S EVERYBODY'S UTILIZING ALL ASPECTS OF, UH, AND SO DEFINITELY ENCOURAGED TO SEE WHAT THE JUNE AND JULY NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.

SO ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE LIVE QUAD STATIONS BASED OFF HOW, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT LAYOUT, AS WAS VISIBILITY.

UM, SO WE ACTUALLY REDESIGNED HOW THEIR CURRENT FLOW IS, BECAUSE THE PLAY STRUCTURE, THEY CAN SEE OVER MORE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PLAY STRUCTURE IS, THEY HAVE TO BE MORE MOBILE.

UM, AND SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A BETTER JOB OF BEING MORE MOBILE.

UH, AND IT SEEMS THAT THE, IT'S NOT, UH, THE VISIBILITY ISN'T AS DIFFICULT AS WAS BEFORE.

NOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TREATING IT IN THAT WAY, BUT WE'VE BEEN IN CAPACITY, UH, ALMOST MOST DAYS, UH, IN THAT FACILITY.

AND SO IT'S STILL, UH, QUITE EXTENSIVE.

SO, I MEAN, BEING THAT PLAY SMALL PLAY FEATURE AREA IS NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE 50 TO 60 PEOPLE OVER IN THAT SPOT THERE.

UM, OR IN THE LAZY RIVER.

THAT'S TYPICALLY THE TWO AREAS THAT'S ARE, UH, HIGHLY USED.

SO HAVE, HAVE YOU DONE AN, IS THERE AN ARTICLE IN THE FAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YET? UH, NOT ON THE REOPENING MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

UM, SO I'LL DIRECT BACK TO, UH, THE DOCUMENT I PRESENTED Y'ALL.

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UH, SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU A BREAKDOWN, UH, OF CURRENT SUB PROJECTS.

UH, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GRANTS, BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE FUNDING, UH, FOR CURRENT PROJECTS, THE MAJORITY OF ONES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AND WHAT THAT FUND BALANCE LOOKS LIKE.

UH, SO ABIGAIL BEING THE FIRST ONE, UH, YOU'LL SEE, UH, EACH LINE HAS THE BOND ALLOCATION.

OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, UH, FOR THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY WAS THE GRANT.

AND THE ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, CITY FUNDING THAT WAS, UH, SUPPORTED FOR THAT PROJECT, UM, ALLOCATION WISE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, WHEN I SAY ALLOCATED TO DATES, THAT TAKES INTO EVERYTHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE BOOKS FOR THAT PROJECT.

UH, SO THAT GOES BACK TO AS EARLY ON AS HAVING THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE, THE TOPO SURVEY, UM, HAVING THE GEOTECH SURVEY DONE, UH, THE, UM, CONTRACT FOR BURA TO DO THEIR PRO TO DO DESIGN SERVICE AND MANAGE THE CONTRACT AS WELL AS, UH, DL MITCHUM'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH FULL, FULL PROJECT.

UH, SO POSITIVE NEWS THERE IS, WE ARE UNDER BUDGET ON THAT ONE.

BUT AGAIN, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE A CHANGE ORDER COMING FOR THAT PROJECT.

UH, FREEDOM PARK, UH, WE HAD ALLOCATION FOR THE BOND AS WELL, AS WELL AS CITY'S FUNDING.

UH, WE KNEW GOING INTO IT THAT WE WERE GONNA BE OVER ON THIS PROJECT WHEN WE APPROVED IT.

UH, IT WAS, UH, TO GET THE ADDITIONAL, UH, AT ALTERNATES PUT IN THERE.

I WILL SAY THE ONE THING THAT, TO POINT OUT FOR THIS ONE AS WELL, IS, UH, IF Y'ALL, UH, RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE, UH, UM, TURF WAS COVERING THE ENTIRE INFIELD.

SO WE DID RECEIVE ONE CHANGE ORDER THAT WE ALREADY ANTICIPATED, AND THAT WAS APPROVED TO MAKE THAT, SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER AS WELL.

UH, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UH, IT WAS ABOUT $20,000 TO THAT CHANGE ORDER AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, THE DUGOUTS AND THE TURF.

UH, AND SO WITH THE CREDIT FOR THE, THE DIRT WAS APPLIED TO THAT AS WELL.

UH, FREEDOM PARK, UH, AS WE KNOW IT SAID THAT ONE'S COMPLETE.

THAT WAS, UH, ONE THAT WE DID FINANCING FOR.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGETS.

UH, BUT THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE, IS NOT, UH, ALLOCATED INTO THE, THE BALANCE HERE.

UH, BATES PARK, A SIMILAR THING.

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PREFACE THAT WITH SAYING, UH, IF IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE WANT FUNDING TO COME FROM, UH, BUT THIS WOULD INCLUDE FULL COST FOR THE PROJECT.

SO YOU'LL SEE, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OVER ON THIS PROJECT.

THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM BOND FUNDING IF WE DON'T WANT IT TO.

UH, BUT THE BONDS DO SAY THAT IT, UH, IS FOR PARK PROJECTS.

AND SO IF WE WANTED TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHETHER IT BE CONTINGENCY OR LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT LINE, WE COULD DO THAT.

UH, SO IT HASN'T SPECIFICALLY BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE BOND.

UH, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THE TOTAL IS REFLECTED IN HERE.

SO THAT 53,000 YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM DOES HAVE THAT NEGATIVE 11,000, BUT WE CAN REALLOCATE IT IF WE NEED TO.

UH, WE HAD THE TEXAN TRAIL DRAINAGE PROJECT.

UH, THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND DID HAVE A SAVINGS OF $58,000.

UH, THE BG P SOCCER COM COMPLEX GRADING.

UH, THAT WAS FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES.

AND AS WE WENT THROUGH DESIGN AND GOT TO FINAL DESIGN BEFORE WE WENT OUT TO BIDDING, WE REALIZED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE, UH, FUND CAPACITY TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE, UH, CANCELED THAT CONTRACT.

AND THE REMAINING FUNDS ON THAT ONE WAS ABOUT 39,000.

AND THEN WE HAD BG P UH, SOCCER LIGHTING.

THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND CAME AT THE 1 76.

SO THAT SHOULD, UH, BOND FUNDING WISE.

THAT LEAVES US TO ABOUT A BALANCE OF $53,000, UH, GIVE OR TAKE IF WE WERE TO REALLOCATE SOME OF THAT BATES PARK, UM, FUNDING IN THERE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.

REFRESH MY MEMORY, HOW WAS THE REC CENTER BEING IMPROVED? WHERE WAS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? UH, SO $500,000 WAS FROM BONDS.

UM, WHAT BOND? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THIS ONE.

SORRY.

SO IT WAS FROM THIS, IT WAS FROM THIS.

THE ONLY REASON I SEPARATED THAT OUT, UH, WAS BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA CAME IN FROM THE OTHER PIECES.

UH, WE HAD FUND BALANCE.

WE HAD A RC FUND BALANCE, UH, AND WE HAD THE, THE GRANT.

SO I COULD ADD THAT, INCLUDE THAT IN NEXT TIME.

BUT THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO NAVIGATE BECAUSE SO MUCH IS TIED UP INTO THE GRANT.

WITH THE 50 50, IT'S HARD TO MOVE MONEY OUT OF IT WHEN IT HAS TO HAVE THAT MATCH.

AND BECAUSE OF THE GRANT LANGUAGE AND HOW WE SHOWED IT WAS ALLOCATED, UM, WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THAT WITH THOSE, UH, WHERE THEIR MONEY WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED FROM.

SOME OF THIS IS TPW, CORRECT? YES.

SO ON THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCE, UM,

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UH, SO SPECIFICALLY ABIGAIL, SO YOU HAD ABIGAIL WAS TPW AND CITY FUNDING.

SO ARE WE ON TRACK AND SCHEDULED TO MEET THE DEADLINES OF THE TPW GRANT? YES.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

YEAH, THAT WAS FIVE YEARS.

ARE WE, ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT, UM, I SEE THE PROJECTED OR THE ORIGINAL TOTAL BUDGET ALLOCATED TO DATE SHOWS A BALANCE? ARE WE EXPECTING TO CONSUME THAT ENTIRE BALANCE AND THEN ACTUALLY EXCEED THAT? ARE WE GONNA I SURE HOPE NOT.

UM, OKAY.

THE, I, THE GOAL, WOULD THAT BE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO.

UM, BUT BEING THE FIRST CHANGE ORDER THAT WE HAVE, UH, WOULD BE THE SEWER LINE.

UH, BUT I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT THAT COST IS GONNA BE AT THE MOMENT.

IS IT THIS ENGAGEMENT YOU'VE HAD WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THESE EASEMENT OWNERS? MM-HMM .

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET TOO FAR INTO MM-HMM .

BUT WHO IS FROM THE CITY IS DIRECTLY COMMUNICATING WITH THESE PEOPLE? UH, I, I HAVE HAD DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AS WELL AS LOOPY HAS BEEN ON SOME OF THE MEETINGS, UH, AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK OFFLINE.

JUST WANT TO, BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANCE THERE.

WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN AVOID THAT.

THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

PRESENTS OPPORTUNITIES TO TOUCH ON OTHER PROJECTS OR CONTINUE THAT PROJECT.

I AGREE.

YOU, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO? OKAY.

GOING ITEM NUMBER

[3. Discussion and possible action on drainage projects. ]

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVENING MAYOR BOARD.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW ME, UM, HECTOR INTERIOR.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

UM, AND IN, UH, UH, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS WE HAVE AND THE FUNDING NEEDED TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.

AND SO IT WAS A DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO, UH, EXPLORE FUNDING OPTIONS AND AB OR, UH, MORE FUNDING OPTIONS AND A-B-L-C-C BEING ONE OF 'EM.

AND, UM, I KNOW THAT A BLC HAS, UH, FUNDED SOME DRAINAGE PROJECTS IN THE PAST.

TAXI AND TRAILS, ONE OF THE ONES LISTED THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY DONE.

AND, UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, UH, TRY TO GET SOME MORE FUNDING THROUGH A BLC TO COMPLETE SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

UM, NOT JUST TODAY, BUT ALSO IN THE FUTURE.

UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD IN COUNCIL, THERE WERE SOME, UH, UH, DISCUSSION ON OTHER PROJECTS BEING COMPLETED.

SO WITH THOSE IN MIND, UM, I WOULD SAY OUR MOST IMPORTANT NEXT TOPIC, OUR NEXT, UH, IMPORTANT DRAINAGE PROJECT WOULD BE THE NORTHVIEW DRIVE DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S KIND OF TOP OF THE LIST NOW.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I MEAN, WE LEAVE IT OPEN TO DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS OR JUST DISCUSSION ON FUNDING THIS PROJECT IN GENERAL THROUGH A BLC.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, PLEASE.

HE, OKAY.

SO THE NORTHVIEW DRAINAGE PROJECT CAME ABOUT AS A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF, UH, UH, CITIZEN INQUIRIES ABOUT IT, WORK ORDERS PUT IN FOR US ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE.

AND BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, UM, IT'S A, IT'S AN OLD, IT'S AN OLD, UH, STREET THAT WAS DESIGNED WHERE THE STREET IS PART OF THE DRAINAGE, RIGHT? DOESN'T DRAIN OUT FAST.

ENOUGH'S DESIGNED TO FILL UP AND SLOWLY METER OUT.

BUT WITH THAT, WE CAN HELP MITIGATE AND OFFSET SOME OF THIS BY INSTALLING A, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS POSSIBLY A DRAINAGE PIPE THAT COULD BE INSTALLED WITH AN INLET THAT WOULD RUN BACK TO THAT DITCH.

ALSO, THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED BACK THERE AND SOME, AND SOME BETTER GRADING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE BACK BEHIND THOSE HOMES.

AND ALSO THE STREET ITSELF IS STARTING TO, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY CAVE IN DUE TO WATER SITTING THERE FOR SO LONG.

IT'S UNDER THAT PAVEMENT AND INTO THE BASE.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO ALSO DO A STREET REPAIR AS WELL.

BUT THAT FURTHER COMPOUNDS THE ISSUE.

AS YOU KNOW, THE WATER'S ALREADY DEEP ENOUGH, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, A SINKING A PAVEMENT THERE THAT MAKES THE WATER EVEN DEEPER AS THEY PASS THROUGH.

AND, UH, PREVIOUS RAIN WE HAD SEVERAL WEEKS AGO THAT WE HAD THE SIX INCHES IN, UH, I THINK IT WAS FOUR HOURS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT STREET WAS PRETTY INUNDATED AND IT WAS IMPASSABLE THROUGH THE BACK PART OF THAT CUL-DE-SAC FOR SEVERAL HOURS FOR MOST VEHICLES.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, TO COMPLETE THIS AND, AND LET'S AGAIN INSTALL A DRAINAGE PIPE.

IT WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION.

THERE'S GONNA BE TREE REMOVAL INVOLVED AS WELL.

AND THAT WOULD REALLY HELP HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GET THAT WATER OFF OF THEM A LOT FASTER.

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DOES THE DRAINAGE PIPE COME WITH SOME SORT OF CULVERT? I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT SO WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS, UM, TO INSTALL A PIPE UNDERGROUND THAT GOES THROUGH, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST A SWELL AND THAT SWELL REALLY CAN'T GET DEEP ENOUGH.

SO IF WE PUT A PIPE IN, IT'LL BE BETTER.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN INLET UP TOP WHERE IT WOULD CATCH UP THE CURB, CATCH ALL THAT WATER IN THAT INLET BOX, AND THEN GO THROUGH THAT PIPE OUT THAT THE DRAIN BOX.

SO, AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS A PIPE INSTALLED SOME YEARS AGO, FURTHER NORTH.

'CAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO OUTFALLS GOING INTO THAT DITCH BEHIND THERE.

AND ONE GOES, UH, ONE GOES EAST, AND THIS ONE IN QUESTION GOES, UH, WEST.

UM, BUT IT JUST WASN'T DONE WITH AN INLET.

THERE WAS A PIPE INSTALLED, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS SOME ISSUES.

JUST HAS A GRADE ON THERE.

SO OUR CREWS HAVE TO GO OVER THERE AND CONSTANTLY CLEAN THAT GR OUT.

BUT HAVING AN INLET THERE IS A MUCH BETTER OPTION FOR THAT.

I LIKE IT.

WHAT ABOUT THE MOUSE DRAINAGE PROJECT? SO I BELIEVE IT MOSTLY GOT DISCUSSED IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING FOR S TO FUND THIS ONE AS WELL AS THE, UH, PROJECT IN THE, UH, IN THE ALLEY BEHIND CITY.

I'LL CALL IT.

THE SHENANGO CITY ALLEY FOR THAT SMALL DRAINAGE PROJECT WAS GONNA BE COMING OUT OF A FUND OH TWO.

SO IN TOTAL, IF, IF THIS ONE WAS ACCEPTED, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF THREE DRAINAGE PROJECTS WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO COMPLETE.

SO MIMOSA AND CHENANGO ALLEY WOULD BE DONE OUT OF BUN TWO.

AND NORTHVIEW, IF APPROVED WOULD BE OUT OF HERE.

OUT OF A BLC? CORRECT.

SO, SO NOW HISTORICALLY, I KNOW IT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT US FUNDING THE, UH, THE DRAINAGE PORTION THROUGH A BLC FROM YEARS PAST.

AND I THINK OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WE SORT OF PRETTY MUCH ACCEPTED THAT WE WOULD DO THAT.

YOU MENTIONED THAT WAS ONE THAT WE JUST DID RECENTLY? YES.

TEST AND TRAIL.

SO THAT WAS THE ONE.

AND SO THE RESOURCES FOR THIS, THE ONE THAT'S 61,000, THE OTHER ONE'S LIKE 25,000.

SO WE'RE TALKING LIKE, WHAT, 86,000 FOR THIS ONE? SO THE MONEY FOR THAT WOULD COME FROM THE CONTINGENCY LINE.

AND OUR CONTINGENCY NOW IS ROUGHLY, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THE CONTINGENCY? IT WAS BUDGETED 2 95 AND NOW IT IS GONNA BE HALF ON CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES CURRENTLY.

UH, SO IF YOU WENT BASED ON WHAT IS, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT THAT 3% CUT IN HALF, SO ABOUT 1 45, THE 1 48.

UM, SO IDEALLY, YES.

THE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION THIS IS, YOU KNOW, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

THERE IS A FUND BALANCE.

UH, SO THERE'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THERE.

CURRENT FUND BALANCE, UH, FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS AT 8 75.

UH, IF YOU TAKE THE 25% THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO OR SHOULD BE STAYING AT, IT DOES LEAVE YOU ABOUT 275,000.

'CAUSE OUR, OUR FULL OPERATING BUDGETS, UH, FOR A BLC IS ABOUT 2.4.

AND SO YOU DO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES TO CONSIDER.

SO EVEN IF YOU DID TAKE IT OUTTA CONTINGENCY LINE OR PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOUR FUND BALANCE HAS THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THAT.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE SAW A, UH, A DECREASE IN OUR CURRENT 3%, UM, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT UP IN YOUR FUND BALANCE.

SO EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THE DROPOUT CONTINGENT IS 60,000, WE'LL STILL BE FINE WITH, AND THIS WOULD ONLY BE THE, THE NUMBER HE'S GOT HERE IS 60 61,226 FROM NORTHVIEW AND SHENANGO? NO, NO, NO.

SHENANGO.

AND, UH, THE, UH, MIMOSA WOULD BE DONE FROM CITY.

THE STREET FUND FUND OH TWO IS WHAT, WHO LIKES TO SAY STREET, STREET FUND OUT OF THE CITY? IT'S NOT, NOT RELATED TO THE, OKAY.

SO WE BACK UP TO LIKE 80,000 AND I'LL SAY THAT HECTOR'S ESTIMATES SOMETIMES ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE.

, YES.

THIS GONNA COST US MORE THAN THAT.

NO.

WELL, OH NO, NO.

IT LESS IS WHAT OKAY.

YOU OVER I GOT YOU.

SO, SO NORTHVIEW, I, I READ THIS AND IT SAYS, SO YOU GOT OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO.

WHICH ONE I'M GUESSING IS IT MORE, MORE EXPENSIVE? THE OPTION TWO? SO OPTION, UM, OPTION ONE IS GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE PORTION OF THAT STREET WHEN WE GET DONE INSTALLING THE PIPE.

UM, BUT OPTION TWO IS JUST TO USE LIKE A, A UTECH, WHICH IS JUST A PRODUCT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE EVERYONE'S SEEN PROBABLY LIKE AN AD FOR IT, WHERE IT RAISES YOUR, YOUR SLAB OR YOUR DRIVEWAY.

SIMILAR PRODUCT AS THAT.

IT'S JUST GONNA FILL UP THAT VOID AND RAISE THAT STREET TO THAT.

UH, SAY HONESTLY, THAT'S NOT MY OPINION ON THAT.

I WOULD DEFINITELY PREFER TO GO TO OPTION ONE, JUST TO KNOW WE'VE DUG EVERYTHING OUT.

AND WHICH ONE MIGHT BE PRICE OF 61,000? UH, THE, I BELIEVE IT'S OPTION ONE, LIKE THE MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION.

RATHER GO THE SAFER ROUTE.

I'D

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AND BUILD BACK THE BASE BACK UP, BECAUSE I WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN WASHED OUT UNDERNEATH.

EXACTLY WHAT IS IT LEAVING YOU UNDERNEATH THAT ROAD? YES.

AND MAYBE JOHN HAS A BETTER EXPERT ENGINEERING OPINION ON THAT.

MAYBE HE RECOMMENDS OPTION TWO.

SO MAYBE WE DO THINK ABOUT GOING WITH THAT ROUTE.

IF, IF JOHN HAS A REALLY STRONGER OPINION ON THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I THINK TEAR IT OUT, PUT IT BACK IN.

SO, SO, SO WHAT'S THE COST AND OPTION TWO? UH, I NOT, I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT.

THAT'S OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S, I DO KNOW IT'S THAT.

IT'S GONNA BE THE LESSER YES.

GOTCHA.

IT'S GONNA BE LESSER THAN THAT.

IF THERE'S NO NEED TO LIKE, TRY TO SAVE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT WHERE IT'S GONNA BE MOSTLY COST EFFECTIVE AND JUST GONNA BE BETTER LONGEVITY.

WE'RE ABOUT LONGEVITY.

YEAH, I, BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT THAT, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, UTECH UNDERNEATH IT.

BUT IF WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THAT, WHAT'S UNDERNEATH UTECH IS STILL BAD.

EXACTLY.

IT'S WHAT'S, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU JACK HAMMERING ALL THAT OUT EVENTUALLY.

AND THEN REPLACING THE WHOLE THING.

EXACTLY.

AND THEN IT'S NOT GONNA COMPLETELY FIX THE SURFACE.

WHATEVER CRACKS OR IMPERFECTIONS YOU HAVE ON THE SURFACE, IT'S NOT GONNA FIX THAT.

IT'S JUST GONNA LEVEL IT OUT.

SO IT'S A BANDAID.

IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS, THAT A BLC IS STARTING TO TACKLE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THE VOTERS DID VOTE FOR, INCLUDES DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

SO GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BETWEEN FUND O2 AND A BLC GETTING SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE ISSUES RESOLVED.

IT'S NICE TO SEE FOR SURE.

UH, ONE THING, YOU DON'T HAVE THE, UH, SPANISH TRACE ON HERE AS A, AS A DRAINAGE PROJECT.

AS A DRAINAGE PROJECT.

NO, I HAD IT LISTED OUT AS FAR AS A, IS THAT A SEWER PROJECT? STREET REPLACEMENTS THAT WE WOULD, UH, THE BO POTENTIAL BOND WE'RE DISCUSSING.

THAT'S WHERE I HAVE IT INCLUDED IN THERE.

AND THOSE, UH, I HAVE A SECTION IN THERE FOR 10 PANEL REPLACEMENTS TO, YOU KNOW, PUT, ALLOCATE SOME AMOUNT OF THAT BOND TO THAT FOR THOSE, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THERE.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT WAYS TO WORK.

THINGS CAN BE FUNDED WITHOUT GOING THE BOND ROUTE IF YOU CAN'T.

AND AGAIN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT SPANISH TRACE, I MEAN, PART OF IT IS A ROAD PROJECT.

THE ROAD HAS STARTED A CONCAVE, BUT THE REASON WHY IT'S CONCAVE IS DRAINAGE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF RIGHT.

LOOK AT THAT FROM EITHER SIDE OF THAT COIN.

AND THAT'S, WHAT WAS THAT ESTIMATE ON THAT ONE? UH, 154,000 I BELIEVE.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WELL, BOARD, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? 'CAUSE THE AGENDA DOES SAY POSSIBLE ACTION IF YOU WANT.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE TO, UH, COMPLETE THE NORTHVIEW DRAINAGE DRIVE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.

WHAT'S THAT? CONTINGENCY CONTINGENCY.

WITH A BUDGET OF $61,226 HAS TO COME OUT OF THE, UH, BLANKING OUT, ALMOST SUDDEN.

A BLC.

WE NEED COURT SECOND MOTIONS.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

LET'S GO FIX 'EM.

, RIGHT? I MAKE SURE.

[4. Discussion on updated preliminary budget for Parks, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2026 2027. ]

ITEM FOUR, DISCUSSION.

UPDATED PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR PARKS RECREATION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND ANGLETON, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISION BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2027.

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UH, SO THIS ITEM IS, UH, A FOLLOW UP TO OUR LAST AGENDA, OUR LAST, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, CONTINUE TO REFINE THE BUDGETS FOR A BLC LESTON REC CENTER, UH, RESTORATION DIVISION, AND, UH, PARKS PERSONNEL SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO, UH, THE PORTION THAT A BLC CONTRIBUTES TO PARKS PERSONNEL.

UM, SO YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET HERE, I'VE INCLUDED OUR INTERNAL DOCUMENTS.

UH, WE HAVE KEPT THOSE INTERNAL DOCUMENTS PRETTY MUCH FLAT, UH, SINCE OUR LAST, UH, CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.

UH, WE DID MAKE SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS, UH, IS MOVING SOME MONEY.

WHEN I SAY MOVING MONEY, WE, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO FINE TUNE AND GET QUOTES IN AND, AND, UH, ALLOCATE FUNDING.

UH, EXAMPLE I WOULD GIVE IS FITNESS EQUIPMENT.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT KEEP OUR BOTTOM LINE THE SAME.

UH, SO NO MAJOR CHANGES FROM THE LAST TIME THAT YOU SAW THE PROJECT, UH, OR SAW THE BUDGETS.

UH, JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE Y'ALL AGAIN, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

UH, TO GIVE Y'ALL AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE BUDGET PROCESS LOOKS LIKE FROM HERE.

UH, THIS, WE WILL TAKE THIS, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FINANCE TO FINE TUNE, UH, THINGS AS FAR AS THE PERSONNEL SIDE, UH, GET THIS READY FOR SUBMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL.

UH, OUR BUDGETS ARE DUE TO CITY COUNCIL BY JULY 1ST.

UH, OUR DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY WILL HAVE A BUDGET MEETING ON SATURDAY, JULY 11TH, WHERE WE'LL REVIEW THE BUDGET WITH CITY COUNCIL, UH, LOOKING FOR THEIR COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, OR QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE SPECIFICALLY ON OUR BUDGET.

UH, BUT BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUDGET COMES OUT OF A BLC, WE START, UH, HERE FIRST.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I DID PASS OUT TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO COUNSEL FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

UH, ONE OF THEM OUTLINES WHAT OUR CIP PLAN WAS.

YOU'LL SEE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN UPDATED FOR CURRENT PROJECTS.

SO EXAMPLE BEING 25, 26, WE DID ALLOCATE QUITE A BIT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, UH, VARIOUS PROJECTS, UH, WHETHER IT BE PARKS, UH, OR, UH, THE REC CENTER, UH, THE FIELD EXPANSION.

SO THAT NUMBER, THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THERE AS WELL.

UH, THE ONES WE HAVE SLATED FOR NEXT YEAR.

UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF THESE, IF DEPENDING ON THE PROJECTS, DON'T MAKE IT SO LIKE THE A RC ONE, UH, YES, IT WAS LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR, BUT WE MAY MOVE SOME OF THAT TO SHOW FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED FROM THE, THE BONDS, UH, NEXT YEAR.

BUT, UH, LOOKING AT FY 26 27, WE CONTINUE TO REQUEST FUNDING TO SUPPORT, UH, OUR A DA TRANSITION PLAN.

THAT WAS A PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021.

UH, HAD VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS, UH, ALLOCATED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND SO, UH, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED DIRECT FUNDING TO SUPPORT THOSE.

WE HAVE TRIED TO DO AS MANY PROJECTS IN HOUSE.

UH, SO WHETHER IT BE A SIDEWALK EXTENSION, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SOME OF THESE HAVE TO CORRELATE WITH OUR SIDEWALK CONNECTION BETWEEN STREETS, UM, OUR CONNECT, UH, CONNECTIVITY AT DIFFERENT PARKS.

UH, SO WE CONTINUE TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS IN HERE, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, YOU'LL SEE WE TALKED ABOUT OUR, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT, UM, OUR PARKS BOARD HAS, UH, BEEN KEEN ON AS WELL OF LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THAT.

UH, SO THAT IS THE FIRST ONE.

UH, THE SKATE PARK IS STILL ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO WITH THAT.

I DID PUT NUMBERS IN HERE.

UH, WE HAVE A THOUGHT TO INCLUDE THIS IN OUR PHASE TWO, UH, UH, ABIGAIL S. PARK PROJECT.

AND SO WE'RE STILL, UH, HAVE THAT AS A FOCUS.

JUST HAVEN'T, UH, NARROWED IN ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE SIZE AND SCOPE JUST YET.

UM, ALSO LOOKING TO, UH, CHANGE OUT ANOTHER ONE OF OUR MOWERS AS WE CONTINUE TO PUT MILEAGE ON THOSE.

UH, SO WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MOWER IN HERE FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

AND THEN THE FUND BALANCE ONE, WE APOLOGIZE, YOU CAN'T SEE IT IN HERE.

UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY IN BLACK.

SO THE FIRST THREE ARE IN RED.

THOSE ARE CURRENTLY NON-FUNDED ITEMS. UH, THE ONE IN BLACK, THE FUND BALANCE ONE IS JUST ALLOCATING, SAYING THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MONEY THAT CAN BE DEDICATED TO ONGOING, UH, UH, REC CENTER PROJECTS.

SO THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS ALREADY FUNDED BECAUSE THAT IS A FUND BALANCE RELATED ITEM.

UM, SO WE JUST PUT THAT ONE IN THERE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE'S A FUND BALANCE THAT COULD BE USED FOR, UM, OPERATIONAL, UH, PROJECTS IF NEEDED.

SO, UM, THE OTHER, UH, ITEM THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE THERE, UM, AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS AS FAR AS, UH, THE, UH, SUPPORT FOR PROJECTS GO.

SO AGAIN, CIP RELATED ITEMS, UH, ARE ONES THAT ARE MORE OF A HIGHER PRIORITY.

UM, AND

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THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST THAT COMES WITH THOSE IS, UH, FOR PERSONNEL AND FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR OUR PARKS EQUIPMENT.

UH, SO WE PREVIOUSLY ASKED FOR AN AQUATIC ASSISTANT TO HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE AQUATIC, UH, TEAM, UH, WAS, UH, APPROVED IN THE PAST.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH OUR BUDGET CUTS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE ELIMINATED.

SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO REQUEST THAT.

UH, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION WAS CUT, AND WE HAVE TWO PARKS POSITIONS THAT, UH, WERE CUT AS WELL.

UH, KEEPING IN MIND THAT OUR DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO EXPAND OUR FOOTPRINT OF, UH, WHAT WE MANAGE AND OVERSEE.

SO, UH, 2023 LAKESIDE PARK CAME ON, UH, MOST RECENTLY BEING ABIGAIL AREAS PARK, WHEN THAT IS IN FULL OPERATION, NEXT BUDGET YEAR, UH, THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE MAINTENANCE, MORE TIME OUT THERE.

UH, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING.

IT'S AN ADDITIONAL RESTROOM THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE CLEANED.

UM, IT IS NO LONGER JUST A, A, UH, UNDEVELOPED PARK.

IT IS NOW GONNA BE A DEVELOPED PARK, UH, ADDITION OF FREEDOM PARK, A FIELD, THE ADDITION OF BATES PARK FIELDS.

WE ALSO ACQUIRED THE LAND AROUND BATES PARK, AROUND KATZ ACADEMY.

THAT IS NOW CITY PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN, AS WELL AS THE, THE PROPERTY AROUND THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

WE DID ACQUIRE PARCELS THERE.

AND SO THAT TREE LINE IS OURS TO MAINTAIN AS WELL.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO REQUEST THAT.

UH, JANITORIAL, UH, I DID PUT THIS ON THERE.

UH, COUNCIL DID GIVE A DIRECTIVE TO GO BACK TO REBID THIS, BUT I WANTED TO JUST KEEP THIS, UH, UH, UH, AT THE FOREFRONT THAT, THAT IN THE EVENT THAT WE GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, THEY DIDN'T MAKE A DETERMINATION TO GO IN-HOUSE.

UH, A BLC HAD CONSIDERATION FOR HELPING TO FUND THOSE, UH, THE JANITORIAL SERVICES AT THAT 30%.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HARD NUMBER THAT KIND OF CAME WITH THAT.

UH, AND SO THAT 49,000 WOULD BE WHAT WOULD, THE SUPPORT WOULD COME FROM A BLC, UH, AS WELL AS SOME CAPITAL, UH, PROJECT ITEMS. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO, UH, LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE WOULD NEED.

UH, SO ONE OF THE ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A SKID STEER, A TRACK LOADER, UM, VARY IN PRICE.

WE'VE GOTTEN AS GOOD AS 72,000, AS HIGH AS 87.

UH, AND THEN THE, UH, THREE, UH, SUBSEQUENT ITEMS AFTER THAT WOULD BE ATTACHMENTS THAT WOULD GO WITH THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD HELP MAKE, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY WOULD DO A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

UH, AND THEN THE LAST ONE BEING A TRAILER TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF AND, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER OPERATIONS FOR, UM, OUR TEAM AS THEY'RE, UH, NAVIGATING THE FIELDS AND COMPLETING THEIR JOB TASKS.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SPECIFIC BUDGET WE HAVE IN HERE.

UH, THE, I WILL POINT OUT AS FAR AS A BLCS PORTION THOUGH, UH, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED, WE KEPT THE BUDGET FLAT, UH, TALKING WITH FINANCE.

UH, THEY ARE LOOKING AT A THREE, UH, PROJECTING A 3% INCREASE.

IF WE WENT IN LINE WITH THAT, IT WOULD ADD ABOUT $72,000 TO THE BUDGETS.

UH, SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, THAT WE COULD SEE IF WE WENT WITH A 3% INCREASE, UH, VERSUS WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN YOUR PACKET OF, UH, UH, REMAINING FLAT FROM WHAT THIS CURRENT YEAR IS, IS THAT THE SAME PERCENTAGE, UH, BACK OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL? 30% OR 23%? NO.

HOW MUCH ARE YOU SENDING OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND? 30.

30%.

30%? YEAH.

30% TO THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, AND SO SAYING THOSE, UM, THE, UH, CONTINGENCY IS IN A BETTER PLACE NEXT YEAR.

UH, AND SO CURRENTLY PROJECTED CONTINGENCY OF ABOUT 360,000, IF WE WENT WITH THAT 3% SALES TAX INCREASE, YOU'D BE, UH, UPWARDS OF 4 25.

SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A FAIRLY DECENT CONTINGENCY.

WHY, WHAT ONE TIME COST ARE NOT INCURRED AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU, AS FAR AS, WHY WOULD THE CONTINGENCY GO UP? JUST BECAUSE OF YOU'RE STILL OUT MOVING 30% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OVER.

WELL, SO THE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE 2.4 THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? WE ORIGINALLY PROJECTED AT TWO POINT THAT TO STAY AT THAT 2.4, IF WE GO UP THAT 3%, IT ADDS ABOUT $72,000 ON TOP OF THAT.

YOU HAVE A, THE REASON WHY I'M, I'M KIND OF PUZZLED, IS WE WERE EXPECTING 6% THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE DOWN TO 3%.

SO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD BUDGETED IS GONNA BE CUT IN HALF.

SO IF WE'RE 3%, WE'D ACTUALLY BE AT THE 6%.

SO I'M SAYING THERE MUST BE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, SO THIS WAS BASED ON WHAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR'S NUMBER.

SO THE 2.4, IT WOULD BE 3% ON TOP OF THE 2.4.

NOW, IF WE GO BACK AND IF WE LOOK AT IT AND DO, NOW WE'RE CONNECTING.

SO IF WE GO BACK, UH, WE COULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO STAY AT THE 2.4 BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT A 3% OF WHAT LAST YEAR'S ACTUAL WAS MM-HMM .

AND IT WOULD KEEP YOU IN, IN LINE WITH WHAT

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THAT 3% WAS.

SO EITHER, EITHER WAY, LOOKING AT, UH, A PRETTY HEALTHY, UH, CONTINGENCY LINE.

UM, SO THAT, UH, UH, AFFORDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, UM, WHETHER IT BE FROM THIS PROJECT LIST THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, WHETHER OUR CFP STUFF, ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO CONSIDER HERE, UH, AS WELL AS ITEM NUMBER.

IT'S GONNA TALK ABOUT PARK PRIORITY PROJECTS FROM THE PARKS BOARD.

UM, ALL THAT SAYING THOUGH, DO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY INCLUDED IS, UH, THERE IS A COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT'S LOOKING TO BE ADDED FOR, UH, STAFF.

SO THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN HERE IN THE EVENT THAT THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THAT WOULD INCREASE THESE NUMBERS.

UM, SO YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THAT COME DOWN, BUT IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THEM GREATLY.

YOU'D PROBABLY MORE SEE A LINE WITH THE CONTINGENCY WE HAD LAST YEAR, UM, UH, POINTING THOSE ONES OUT.

UH, REALLY, UH, SOME OF THE BIG CHANGES, I WILL SAY WE DO HAVE A DECREASE IN OUR DEBT SERVICE.

UH, WE DO MAKE UP A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THOUGH BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE PLAYGROUND THAT'S ON THERE.

UM, SO IT'S NOT AS GREAT.

SO, BUT THAT'S SOME OF WHERE OUR SAVINGS WAS.

UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE BY REMAINING FLATS, AS FAR AS SOME OF OUR NUMBERS GO, WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING, UH, LESS OF A REQUEST FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER.

UH, SO THEIR REQUEST OF ABOUT $20,000 LESS FROM A BLC BECAUSE WE PROTECT OUR REVENUE TO CONTINUE TO DO WELL.

UM, THE REC DIVISION, UM, WOULD BE, UH, REMAIN ON POINT FOR WHERE THERE'S AT.

BUT THEY, UH, I WILL SAY THEY HAD SOME, LOOKED AT SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, COST MEASURES THAT WENT WITH, UH, OPERATIONS AND OFFSETTED THAT WITH REVENUE.

SO THEIR NUMBERS STAYED THE SAME AS WELL.

SO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR FEEDBACK AS WE GET READY TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL.

I WAS GONNA SAY ON THE CAPITAL EXPENSE LINE, WE COULD PROBABLY FUND THE SKID STEER, THE GRAPPLE, THE BRUSH CUTTER AND THE TRAILER ALL NEXT YEAR.

AND THE WAY WE COULD DO IT IS GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTANT, THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING.

THE CAPITAL EXPENSE LINE, LOOKING AT FINANCING IT THROUGH GOVERNMENTAL CAPITAL, EVERYTHING BUT THE MULCHER AND THEN BUY THE TRAILER OUTRIGHT AND IN THE FIR AND THE BUDGET.

SO THE FIRST THREE, YEAH.

WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

AND THAT'S LIKE 37,000 ANNUAL AND COST ADDITIONAL.

AND THAT GIVES US THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THESE PARKS.

JUST SO THE, THE BOARD KNOWS IS WHENEVER WE WERE DOING THE DEMO ON THE, UH, PLAYGROUND AT FREEDOM, UH, WE RENTED A SKID STEER AND FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GUYS AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THEY COULD BE DOING THAT WOULD USE THAT AND PUBLIC WORKS COULD USE THAT SAME PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

SO IT ONLY, IT ALL NOT ONLY FUNDS ONE PIECE, IT FUNDS THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEY NEED THE TRAILER.

THEY SAID, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET THE SKID-STEER.

UH, YOU GOTTA GET THE GRAPPLE AND THE BRUSH TRAILER TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB.

UM, THAT WAS JUST FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE STAFF THAT DAY.

AND I DON'T, BESIDES US INVESTING IN MOWERS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF WE'VE INVESTED ANY NEW EQUIPMENT FOR PARKS MM-HMM .

UM, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ON MY HOT LIST TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, IT'S NICE TO BUILD THE PARKS AND HAVE ALL THE STUFF, BUT WE DON'T EVER BUY ANY EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS.

JOHN, CLARIFYING ON THAT ONE, WOULD YOU, UH, SAY THAT THIS WOULD BE INITIATE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO PROLONG THE PAYMENT FOR THE, OKAY.

AND EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT IN THIS CYCLE TO PAY FOR NEXT YEAR IT'S BUDGET, YOU COULD STILL DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY YEAH.

A MINIMAL COST, 37,000, UM, AND YOU'RE ESTIMATING A 3% INCREASE AND MM-HMM .

SO YOU STILL HAVE ROOM LEFT OVER.

AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT PERSONNEL.

I MEAN, WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT SMALL NUMBERS, LIKE 50,000 TO DO A DRAINAGE PROJECT OR YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE SHADE STRUCTURE? WE TALKED ABOUT 35, 30 TO 35.

ONE FIELD, THEY HAVE ABOUT 30,000, 30 TO 35.

AND HERE IT'S CONSIDERABLY BUDGET MORE, BUT THEY HAVE A, BUT IF YOU ADD A PARK CREW MEMBER THAT'S 54,000 MM-HMM .

SO IT'S A TRADE OFF.

YOU EITHER HIRE SOMEBODY OR YOU GET A PROJECT, YOU GET SOMETHING DONE.

UM, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF WE WERE TO SAY, YEAH, GO GET ANOTHER PARK PARK CREW MEMBER TO HELP YOU WITH AN INCREASE VOLUME IN THE PARK, BUT BECAUSE IT'S

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ON A CREW, RIGHT.

SO IS ONE PERSON ON A CREW GONNA HELP YOU? UH, THEY WILL, FOR SURE.

UH, SO THESE TWO POSITIONS, ONE OF 'EM SPECIFICALLY WAS OUR BEAUTIFICATION ONE.

AND SO MAINTENANCE OF OUR LANDSCAPING AROUND TOWN HAS TURNED INTO, INSTEAD OF PREVENTATIVE, UH, MORE REACTIVE, UM, WE DO A LOT MORE WEED TREATMENTS, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY, UH, DO A WHOLE LOT OF CURB APPEAL.

UM, AND WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING THE WAY THAT WE USED TO.

AND THEY ALSO SUPPORTED, UH, PARK TRASH CLEANUP.

UM, AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS PROLONGED OUR STAFF'S, UH, TURNAROUND SCHEDULE OR A MOWING SCHEDULE, IS THEY, UH, OUR PARK STAFF NOW HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO GO OUT AND DO THAT PARK CLEANUP OR AS WE HAD THAT DEDICATED THE PERSON TO DO THAT.

UM, AND SO THAT ON TOP OF, UH, ABIGAIL BEING ADDED IN ADDS A WHOLE NOTHER, UH, LEVEL OF A PARK THAT NEEDS THE MAINTENANCE THAT GOES WITH IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, MOWING WITH A TRACTOR WAS EASY AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE TRAIL.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAVILION AROUND THE SPLASH PAD, THE BEAU THE GARDEN THAT'S GONNA BE THERE.

UM, AND SO IT JUST, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL FOR THEM.

SO IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, HE'D PICK THE BEAUTIFICATION? UH, YEAH.

IF I HAD TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE.

AND THEY, I MEAN THEY, OUR TEAM SUPPORTS EVERYBODY.

UM, A LOT OF, WE WOULD SEE HOW THAT ONE WORKED OUT AND HOW THEY COULD TO TIE INTO, AND I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT'S SIMILAR FOR OURS IS THERE'S MOWING SEASONS NOT YEAR ROUND, IF YOU WILL.

AND SO WE COULD MOVE THEM AROUND AS NEEDED.

SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT, UH, HELPED TO OFFSET THAT PARK CLEANUP COMPONENTS AND MAKE SURE OUR BEAUTIFICATION PIECE IS, UH, COMES BACK TO UP TO PAR WHERE WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE.

WOULD THAT ALL, I'LL SAY NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, JUST, UH, ADDING STAFF IS A CONTINUAL COST TO THE BUDGET CYCLE.

I NEVER SAID YES.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU ABOUT THE TRADE OFF OF PROJECTS.

THE TRADE OFF IS YOU GET A PROJECT DONE AND IT ROLLS OFF IN THEORY.

AND EMPLOYEE STAYS ON.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, UM, BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT IT IS, THE BALANCE.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAD PARKS AND YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF'EM.

YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THEM.

SO IT'S, I WAS ALSO GONNA SUGGEST THIS IS SOMETHING THAT KB WOULD BE ABLE TO SOMEHOW FIND SOME MONEY FOR.

UM, POSSIBLY IS THAT PARTNERSHIP OR SOMETHING? I WOULD SAY THAT, AND WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AS WELL, THE COST OF THEIR CLEANUPS IS, UH, GETTING, UH, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

UM, AND SO I'VE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OF EXPLORING A ONE TIME A YEAR, UH, WHICH WOULD FREE UP, UH, SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, SO PROBABLY NOT THE FULL AMOUNT.

UM, BUT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOME, THEY ARE ALSO SUPPORTING, UH, SOME OF THE CURRENT PARK, UH, AMENITIES.

IT IS.

SO LIKE IF OUR ANTIQUE STREET LIGHTS GO DOWN, THAT WAS NOW TRANSFERRED OVER TO KAB.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE AND UTILIZE THEM AS WE CAN AS WELL.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION IS, UH, IF WE DIDN'T DO THE TWO CLEANUPS A YEAR, BECAUSE THEY'RE, UH, CREEPING UP TOWARDS $15,000 IN A CLEANUP RIGHT NOW.

AND THE MORE WE GROW AND THE MORE IT IS UTILIZED THAT ONLY MORE IT'S GONNA GROW AND THE MORE COSTLY IT'S GONNA BECOME.

SO IS I I'LL, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU OFFLINE.

SO, SO, SO ALL THESE POSITIONS ARE FULL-TIME SALARY MM-HMM .

SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE DO FOR THE CITY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH PART-TIME.

I MEAN, WE, IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW.

UH, OTHER THAN AT THE REC CENTER.

UM, I MEAN, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, BUT, UH, SO THESE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WERE ONES WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, SO THEY WERE FULL, FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT JUST WEREN'T BROUGHT THERE.

ANY POSSIBILITY YOU COULD OUTSOURCE CONTRACT LABOR? WE COULD.

UM, WOULD THAT BE ANY COST SAVINGS? I MEAN, YOU COULD SURELY GET A COST SAVINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, AND SO LIKE IF YOU'D WANT THE BEAUTIFICATION ROUTE AND ONLY DID BEAUTIFICATION, YOU WOULD HAVE A COST SAVINGS THAT'S WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

UH, BUT YOU WOULD LEAR LOSE THAT PERSON TO SUPPORT OTHER OPERATIONS.

'CAUSE IT WOULD BE, YEAH.

BUT IT, IT FREES YOU UP, RIGHT.

IF YOU CONTRACT OUT A PARTICULAR PART THAT PER THAT RESPONSIBILITY NO LONGER IS COVERED BY, AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE HELPING OUT.

SO IT WOULD, SO NOW THAT, THAT IT WOULD FREE UP IN SOME CAPACITY.

UH, I WOULD SAY BEAUTIFICATION WISE, WE ARE MORE, UM, DOING IT ON AN EXTREMELY LIMITED BASIS.

I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED.

I'D BE CURIOUS, WHAT IF YOU CON IF YOU, UH, POSTED IT, RFQ, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD COME OUT TO.

IF WE CAN GET WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND MAYBE DO IT FOR HALF WHAT YOU'RE, BUT I GUESS IF YOU OUTSOURCE OR FORM IT OUT, DO YOU STILL WANT TO GO WITH SOMEONE THAT'S FAIRLY LOCAL SO THAT WAY YOU CAN KEEP THE TEXT? OH, I'M ALL ABOUT THAT.

UH, WE CAN GET PRELIMINARY NUMBERS ON IT.

JUST LOOK AT IT.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT COMMITTED TO IT.

UM, BUT

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SURE.

I MEAN, WE, WE COULD, BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, RQ, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT, WHATEVER STANDARDS YOU WANNA PUT IN THERE, UM, IT'S GONNA GET MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR DOING THAT THOUGH.

I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS YEAH.

BUILD UP COSTS.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR COST OF FUEL AND WHATEVER THE, BUT THAT WOULD BE, WE STILL WOULD'VE TO PAY FOR OUR OWN.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PART OF OUR NOTHING ELSE.

WHAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING TAKE? LOOK AT SOME NUMBERS.

I'M JUST, BECAUSE IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE A PROJECT THAT ON PEAK SEASON, MAYBE WEEKLY, MAYBE BI WEEK, YOU KNOW, TWICE A MONTH, I THINK IN THE OFF SEASON.

I MEAN, I THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME TIMES THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE A, A SPRING CUT DOWN WHERE YOU JUST KIND OF CLEAR THE BRUSH AND LET THINGS, THE NEW GROWTH COME ALONG.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU DO THE, YOU KNOW, BUT COME OCTOBER OR MAYBE NOT OCTOBER, 'CAUSE STILL PRETTY HIGH IN OCTOBER, BUT YOU KNOW, YEAH, MID-NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OR JANUARY, WE DON'T NEED THE MAINTENANCE.

FEBRUARY.

OR MAYBE IT'S JUST DECEMBER, FEB, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST THE WAY, YEAH, WE CAN PUT A COUPLE OPTIONS TOGETHER, SO.

HOW ABOUT HOW LONG DOES A EMPLOYEE WORK? HOW MANY YEARS? 30.

LIKE 30? HOW LONG DO THEY STAY WITH US? BECAUSE KEVIN'S GOT 19 YEARS.

UM, KEITH 14.

ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT RETIRING OR, UM, 19 YEARS.

NOT VERY LONG, BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE GUYS WILL EVER RETIRE.

SOME PEOPLE ARE RETIRE WHEN THEY'RE 50, YOU KNOW, 40, 45.

LIKE JOHNNY, HE'S PROBABLY ABOUT READY TO RETIRE.

KEVIN IS ONE THAT'S BEEN HERE.

HE HAS, I CAN MAKE SURE BIGGEST LONGEVITY.

UM, AND HE HAS BEEN HERE, UH, I MEAN THROUGH A NUMBER OF SEASONS IF YOU WILL.

UH, KEITH, UH, SIMILAR THING, BUT A LOT OF THEM HAVE COME FROM PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT AND THIS IS, THIS IS RETIREMENT FOR THEM, HONESTLY.

LIKE, THERE, THERE, THERE IS ONE DAY AND I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO BE MORE FORCED OUT.

UH, ONE OF THEM, ONE OF OUR BEAUTIFICATION PERSON WAS SIMILAR TO THAT.

HE HAD QUITE A FEW YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN, IN, AND HE HAD, LIFE WAS CALLING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION FOR HIM.

AND SO HE WAS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GO , BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE TIME.

I WAS LIKE, WELCOME BACK.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU WERE LOOKING AT MAYBE BEING PROACTIVE IN HIRING SOMEBODY IN CASE SOMEBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.

THEY HAVE, NONE OF THEM HAVE, UH, INDICATED THIS TIME THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR RETIREMENT.

I'M JUST SURPRISED.

NO, I MEAN, I JUST KNOW THERE'S OTHER EXPENSES.

I MEAN, 54 INCLUDES ALL BENEFITS.

INSURANCE.

UH, THEIR STARTING PAY IS JUST OVER 17 AN HOUR.

THAT I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY FAIR.

IT'S GOOD TO THEIR STATE.

IT TURNOVER IS BAD, SO IT'S GOOD TO, I'M GONNA RETIRE AND COME WORK FOR YOU.

I LIKE BEING OUTSIDE DAVE.

I, IT, IT'S DAVE AND I PUT A BID IN , BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA GET PAID FOR WHILE HIS HARD LABOR.

NO, HIS IS THE, HE TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE SCHEDULE.

IT MAKES IT SUPER EASY.

PUT A BID IN.

HE WORKS ON HIS SCHEDULE.

SO I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE 30 70, I KNOW THAT GOES WAY BACK, BUT THE 30 70, SO THAT 49,000, THAT IS OUR 30% THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, FROM WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON.

UH, AND THEN IT WOULD INCREASE TO ABOUT 102,000.

SO REALLY A TOTAL AMOUNT IS LIKE 160 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEN BASICALLY.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, A LITTLE CONVOLUTED IF YOU WILL.

AND I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN THE BEST I CAN.

UM, SO THERE IS A CURRENT ALLOCATED AMOUNT FROM A RC THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

UH, AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL THAT GOES INTO THAT.

SO WE TRIED TO FACTOR ALL THAT.

RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE JANITORIAL WORK IS A SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR THE CITY.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS, WHICH HAS THE MOST BENEFIT FOR THE CITY.

UH, AND SO WE, UH, COUNCIL CURRENT DIRECTIVE IS TO GO BACK OUT TO BID TO INCLUDE ALL CITY FACILITIES TO SEE WHAT THAT CONTRACT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT FULL DETERMINATION.

UH, THE OTHER PROPOSAL WE PUT TOGETHER WAS THE IN-HOUSE OPTION.

AND SO THAT OPTION WOULD INCLUDE FOUR INDIVIDUALS.

UH, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A PARKS INDIVIDUAL ALREADY ON STAFF.

UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, A CONTRACT WITH A CLEANING COMPANY FOR THE REC CENTER.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OTHER CONTRACT, REALLY, SO TWO OF 'EM ARE ALREADY REALLY ACCOUNTED FOR.

AND SO THE CURRENT ALLOCATION FROM A BLC IS ABOUT 50 53,000.

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IS THAT TOTAL COMING IN? UM, SO THAT FULL ALLOCATION WOULD BE, IT'S WONKY OF HOW IT'S KIND OF DELINEATED AND BROKEN DOWN.

WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT WAS ALREADY BEING ALLOCATED FOR.

AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO? IT'S A UNIQUE ONE AS LONG AS IT WORKS, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE, IN THAT THEORY, THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT 24,000 FOR, UM, THE, UH, GENERAL FUND AS WELL.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS? YES.

I REALLY DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ALLOCATE ANY MORE MONEY RIGHT NOW TO THE REC CENTER, UH, RENOVATIONS UNTIL YOU GET THROUGH THE BIG SWATH OF YEAH.

THE TOP, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DID IN 24, 25.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A THREE TO FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHERE YOU'RE GONNA NEED MORE MONEY.

AND REALLY SOME OF THAT IS LIKE, THAT'S JUST AGAIN, UH, IT JUST SHOWING THAT THERE'S A FUND BALANCE THAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE USED.

UM, AND SO THERE'S NO INTENT TO USE THAT AT THIS TIME.

UH, THAT'S REALLY MORE SO, UM, KNOWING WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE IN THE EVENT.

OUR OPERATING COSTS EXAMPLE WOULD BE LIKE, UH, AC REPAIRS OR WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A WATER LINE REPAIR, UH, PIPE REPAIR THAT WE HAVE TO FIX OR MITIGATE.

UM, WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TO KIND OF COVER IN THERE.

SO THERE'S WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED TO THAT.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD HERE, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE YOUR BIGGEST PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WANT TACKLE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE HAVE TO START.

DID YOU SEE THERE'S ALSO, I GUESS, PARKS BOARD? YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA, WE CAN KIND OF TIE THEM TOGETHER.

POSSIBLE ACTION OF PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR A BLC FUNDING CONSIDERATION.

I, NUMBER FIVE.

DISCUSSION OF

[5. Discussion and possible action of Parks & Recreation Board Priority Projects for ABLC funding consideration.]

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, SO THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, HELPS TO ALIGN PARKS BOARD WITH A BLC.

UH, IF YOU RECALL, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE REDEFINED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIORITIES OF WHAT THE A BLC WAS AND WHAT PARKS BOARD ALIGNED WELL.

AND SO ONE OF THOSE DEFINED PROJECTS IS THAT A, UH, PARKS BOARD WOULD GO THROUGH AND PRIORITIZE A PROJECT LIST OF, UH, THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PRIORITIES.

UH, SO THIS YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED A NEW PARK ASSESSMENT.

SO WE WENT THROUGH AND REVIEWED ALL OUR PARKS TO SEE THE CURRENT CONDITION, LOOK AT THINGS THAT HAD, UH, PRIORITY NEEDS OR MAY NEED UP, UH, UPDATING OR WHAT IS THEIR CURRENT CONDITION TO THINK ABOUT FOR FUTURE FUNDING.

THIS LIST WAS COMPILED BY THE PARKS BOARD THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER.

UH, I DO HAVE THE BOARD, UH, CHAIR HERE, DAVID.

UH, HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN, IN, UH, SPEARHEADING THIS TO GET THE BOARD INPUTS.

THEY WENT THROUGH AND RANKED THESE, THERE WERE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WERE ON THERE, BUT THEY PROVIDED A TOP 10, UH, LIST, IF YOU WILL, OF THINGS THAT THEY FELT WERE IMPORTANT THAT THEY WANTED TO BRING FORTH FOR CONSIDERATION, FOR FUNDING, AS WELL AS THINGS TO HELP PRIORITIZE FOR OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE THE FUNDING DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR TEAM WON'T GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND ADDITIONAL, UH, FUNDING SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THESE.

SO KNOWING THAT PARKS BOARD IS, UH, SUPPORTING OUR OPERATIONS AND REALLY SPEAKING FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND OF WHAT THEY CAME WITH CAME UP WITH FOR THEIR TOP 10.

AND LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS OF HOW WE COULD LOOK AT FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS OR IF IS THERE A PRIORITY OR COULD BE A PRIORITY FOR A BLC.

SO YOU'LL SEE THERE IN YOUR PACKETS, UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH FULL COSTS ON THEM AS YOU CAN READ THOSE, BUT, AND THE ORDER THAT THEY HAD GO THROUGH WAS RETRIP OF PARKING LOTS AT A NUMBER OF OUR PARKS.

SO WE PROVIDED A COST BREAKDOWN THERE.

UH, PLAYGROUND AND PAVILION REPLACEMENT AT BATES PARK.

UH, COVERED SEATING AT BATES PARK.

UM, REPLACEMENT OF THE WOODEN, UH, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ON HENDERSON ROAD.

UH, SHADE STRUCTURES, UH, NEAR THE PLAYGROUNDS AT LAKESIDE, UH, AND BG PECK.

UH, ADDITIONAL PARKING, UH, AT BATES PARK, UH, DOG PLAY ELEMENTS AND SHADE COVER AT THE OFFICER OF CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK.

UPGRADING THE EXISTING PAVILION AT MASTERSON PARK, A LARGE RENTAL PAVILION AT, UH, FREEDOM PARK, UH, BRIDGE AND TRAILS DEVELOPMENT TO THE PASSIVE AREA AT FREEDOM PARK.

UH, JUST NOTE ON THAT ONE.

THAT WAS A PREVIOUS, UM, PROJECT THAT WE HAD THAT WE DID DESIGN FOR.

AND SO THAT MADE IT ON THE LIST OF TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME PORTION OF THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT SNUCK IN THERE IS, UM, THE, OUR STAGE OR AMPHITHEATER AT VETERANS PARK.

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OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONSIDERATIONS OF POTENTIAL, UH, PROJECTS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO EXPLORE, UM, OR HAVE STAFF CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

FIRST, CAN WE GET THIS TOP 10 ADDED TO THIS? MM-HMM .

GO AHEAD TRAVIS.

UM, I KNOW WE HAD PREVIOUSLY IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, MAYBE IT WAS OUR LAST MEETING, TALKED ABOUT REPLACING OR ADDING COVERED SEATING, UH, AT BATES PARK SOFTBALL FIELDS.

MM.

UM, I THINK HE EVEN BROUGHT US A CANTILEVER DESIGN THAT WE WERE KIND OF INTERESTED IN.

UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, IN THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY FIELDS THREE AND FOUR.

UH, ONE AND TWO HAVE COVERED YES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CONDITION ARE.

UH, THEY'RE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE MANAGEABLE.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED IN OVER TIME TO WHERE THEY HAVE MATCHING, YOU KNOW, CANTILEVER DESIGN.

SO THAT'S KIND OF UNIFORM.

BUT I WOULD START AT LEAST THREE AND FOUR.

AND IT'S SIX AND FIVE.

SIX IS JUST BEING BUILT.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU WOULD NEED A, UM, SHADE COVER ON THE THIRD BASE WEST SIDE 'CAUSE OF THE TREES.

TREES, YEAH.

BUT, UM, AND AS FAR AS FIVE PROBABLY USE IT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA NEED SOME CONCRETE WORK AROUND THE, THE, THE, THE, WHERE THE CURRENT STANDS ARE TO, TO, I THINK HOLD ALL THAT UP.

'CAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY PIECEMEALED MM-HMM .

THAT PARTICULAR FIELD.

UM, ANYWAY.

SO I THINK THREE AND FOUR WOULD BE A GOOD START.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT PUTS US IN THE BUDGET.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE STRIPING IS CERTAINLY DOABLE.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, SEEMS LIKE THE BUDGET WOULD FIT.

I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE ORGANIZATIONS THERE.

YOU LOOK AT BG, PAC PARK, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO THE SOCCER CLUB AND SEE IF THEY CAN ALMOST DO LIKE A MATCHING INVESTMENT? I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A GRANT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT UH, WOODEN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE, HAVEN'T WE? IT WAS IN ALL, IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND ALL THAT, AND WE KIND OF ON HENDERSON ROAD OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AT FREEDOM OUT 10? YEAH, NUMBER FOUR.

NO, I, I AGREE.

I AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO NUMBER FOUR, THAT'S HENDERSON AND THE SOFTBALL AND THE COVER AND THE SEATS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BOTH OF THEM FOR OKAY.

THINK SEEMED LIKE THE, THE COVERING OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD SEATS, THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRIORITY.

I MEAN, AS WE'VE BEEN, IT'S BEEN NEEDED AND WELL, WE HAD THE COVERING AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE AND PROBABLY HAD IT FOR FOUR YEARS.

THREE TO FOUR TO FIVE YEARS NOW.

FIVE YEARS I THINK.

SO SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD CATCH UP ON THE SOFTBALL SIDE.

WELL, AND AND THEN WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT HAVING A, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH IT.

LIKE A NATIONAL LEVEL SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT.

NEXT MONTH.

SO, YEAH, SO, SO I'M THINKING, WELL, WE WON'T HAVE IT FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT I'M IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT IF, IF HOPEFULLY WE, UM, IT GOES WELL, WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME.

AND THEN WE'VE MADE IT UPGRADES.

SO, HEY, WE PUT THE BID IN AGAIN.

WE'RE EVEN BETTER.

WE HAVE COVER NOW, YOU KNOW, SOME SHADE.

I KNOW IT'S STILL HOT IN AUGUST, IN JULY AND , BUT WHATEVER YOU CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, ADD TO IT.

UM, I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF 10.

I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO OPEN UP THAT BRIDGE, THE PASSIVE AREA OF FREEDOM PARK.

I SEE IT'S A PRETTY HEFTY PRICE TAG.

UH, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BOND THAT MONEY OUT.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS MUCH HIGHER.

I THOUGHT IT WAS AROUND A MILLION.

SO THIS IS, UH, WAS PROJECTING TO GET THE BRIDGE AND UH, BE STRATEGIC ON WHAT WE DID FOR A TRAIL.

UH, SO A MILLION WOULD BE CLOSER TO IF WE DID THE BRIDGE, THE WEIR CROSSING.

THAT'S THE, YEAH.

SO THERE WAS THAT LITTLE WEIR.

I THINK KELSEY WOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME ALWAYS SEEMED PIE IN THE SKY TYPE OF BRIDGE.

SO PART OF IT WAS, AND SOME OF THIS IS JUST THE BRIDGE TO GET OVER THE WEIR BECAUSE THERE IS NOT, UH, IT'S SO, LIKE, IT'S A SPILLWAY, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S, UH, IF WE GONNA HAVE A RAINFALL, IT'S GONNA BE FLOODED.

THE WEIR TO GO OVER, LIKE CAN LEAVE ROAD INTO THE LAKE.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE,

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UH, SO THAT'S JUST TO GET YOU OVER THAT CURRENT CONCRETE THAT'S THERE.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES TO THAT PROJECT.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE CIP AS WELL, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PROJECTION WAS ABOUT 1.8 TO DO EVERYTHING THERE, WHICH INCLUDED SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, TRAVIS.

UM, AND THIS WAS TO CUT IT DOWN JUST TO GET US A BRIDGE OVER THERE AND THEN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DEFINE A TRAIL SPACE THAT WOULD BE WALKABLE, UM, AND KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL VERSUS THE MILLION DOLLAR, UH, PORTION OF IT TO DO THAT.

AND THE WEIR THAT WOULD GET YOU THE BRIDGE TO GET YOU OVER THE WEIR AND THE CRUSH, UH, UH, GRANITE'S TRAIL.

I LIKE.

SO THAT WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BRIDGE.

WOULD, WOULD THAT CONNECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE PARK MORE THAN IT'S STILL GONNA BE SEPARATED FROM THAT.

I DO SEE, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, USUALLY IT'S YOUNG MEN OUT THERE WITH TAKING THEIR TACKLE BOXES AND THEY'RE GOING TO THAT LITTLE POND AND THE FISHING THAT'S OVER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACK.

BUT THEY HAVE TO WALK DOWN THE DITCH LINE OVER BEHIND THE, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX.

I THINK THAT'S HOW THEY TOLD ME THEY DID IT.

A COUPLE YOUNG GUYS, I STOPPED THEM ASKING WHAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY TEENAGERS.

THERE'S A FEW THAT WILL GO AROUND THE APARTMENT OR THEY'LL, SOME WILL COME OFF OF VALDEZ AND, BUT I, IT'S NOT ON HERE.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT, MAYBE SEE ADDITIONAL PARKING AT BATES PARK.

BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL PARKING AT FREEDOM AFTER THE, THE FIELD GETS CONSTRUCTED.

YOU ADD THE BRIDGE PLUS THE FIELD.

I THINK YOU HAVE PEOPLE, YOU'RE GONNA START HAVING FOOT TRAFFIC A ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PARKING.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE FOUR QUAD PEX PLEX OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT FOR LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS.

YOU CAN HAVE A SENIOR LEAGUE FIELD.

I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN TOUCH A TALK OF POTENTIALLY THE COLLEGE USING IT, HAVING A, HAVING A BE ABLE TO PARK A BUS, WHETHER IT'S BRASSWOOD COLLEGE, PLAYING SAN JACINTO COLLEGE, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA PARK.

THEY DON'T WANNA PARK A MILE AWAY AND HAVE TO TRE OVER ALL OUR EQUIPMENT TO THE STADIUM.

BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WALK THAT TRACK AND SPECIFICALLY GO OVER THAT BRIDGE AND GO FISHING OR DO WHATEVER GO THROUGH THE NATURE TRAIL.

AND TRAVIS, WELL THEY WANNA WALK ANYWAY, SO JUST MAKE 'EM PARK AT THE OTHER TRAIL.

I GET IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT, THERE IS A CONVENIENCE FACTOR.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA GO SPECIFICALLY FISHING.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXERCISE.

IT DOESN'T PROBABLY MATTER.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FISH OR, OR, OR HANG OUT IN THAT MORE NATURAL STATE OF THE PARK.

'CAUSE THE SOUTH END WILL ALWAYS BE MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL PARK.

THE NORTH END HAS A CHANCE TO BE MORE OF A NATURAL AREA.

I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

I KNOW THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT CONTRACT.

I KNOW.

IT'S EXPENSIVE.

ANYWAY.

WELL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION 'CAUSE KIND OF MAY TIE INTO IT THIS NUMBER NINE, YOU TALK ABOUT A RENTABLE PAVILION AT FREEDOM PARK.

SO IT'S LIKE, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT FOR THAT PAVILION.

POSSIBLY.

I MEAN, YEAH.

I MEAN, DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY WE GO.

BUT YES, I MEAN NOW, AND SO MY QUESTION ON THAT RENTABLE PAVILION THOUGH IS HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROJECTIONS DONE TO SAY, OKAY, ONCE IT'S DONE WE'D BE ABLE TO RENT IT X AMOUNT EVERY YEAR? QUARTERLY OR ANYTHING? 'CAUSE WE'VE KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS, IF IT DOES GET RENTED, THEN THAT'S ACTUALLY AN OFFSET TO THE COST THAT WE'RE SPENDING.

UH, WE HAVEN'T, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE COMPARABLE TO IT AT THE MOMENT.

UH, I MEAN, LAKESIDE MIGHT BE YOUR, YOUR CLOSEST, BUT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT, UH, AS MM-HMM .

WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED THAT TO BE.

UH, THE PROJECTED COST HERE WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH, UM, MAYBE ABIGAIL JUST HIGHLY, UH, MORE FOCUSED ON THE PAVILION COMPONENT OF IT TO MAKE A LARGER SCALE PAVILION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A RENTAL SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT SPACE.

UM, AND THAT IS, UH, PART OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR FREEDOM PARK AS WELL WAS TO HAVE A LARGER PAVILION.

DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE ONE OTHER THAN LAKESIDE THAT REALLY IS RIGHT.

Y YOU KNOW, I GUESS THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO BRING UP, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ALSO TALKED YEARS AGO ABOUT FREEDOM PARK AND HAVING THE, UH, AMPHITHEATER AND SO WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE PAVILION, IF IT'S A RENTABLE PAVILION, IF IT'S MADE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S NICE ENOUGH TO HAVE IT OUTLAYED, MAYBE THAT CAN

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BE, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT NUMBER 11 WHERE IT SAYS STAGE AMPHITHEATER AT VETERANS PARK.

THEN I GO BACK TO NUMBER 10, BUT GO BACK TO NUMBER NINE.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE PAVILION, THE PAVILION WITH THE RESTROOM FACILITIES.

SO I GUESS WITH THAT, WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THERE, I GUESS THAT COULD BE A NICE LITTLE, UH, SEGUE INTO MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A PAVILION THAT CAN ALSO DOUBLE AS AN AMPHITHEATER THAT COULD BE RENTED OUT AS WELL.

SO IT'S LIKE GETTING, IT'S LIKE A MULTI-USE SET UP BY HAVING A FREEDOM PARK WITH THE SPACE THAT WE DO HAVE THERE.

I THINK FREEDOM IS, AND THAT'S, THIS IS MY OPINION, FREEDOM'S GONNA RUN INTO A SPACE ISSUE.

IT WILL EVENTUALLY.

BECAUSE IF YOU, IF WE HAD TALKED ABOUT COMPLETING OUT, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE THE CITY GROWS.

AND, UM, WE STILL MAY NEED ADDITIONAL LITTLE LEAK FIELDS IF THE POPULATION GROWS, CONTINUES.

UNLESS YOU WANNA START SPREADING PEOPLE OUT ACROSS TOWN, WHICH IS A VERY UNFAVORABLE SITUATION.

UM, BUT I MEAN, IF, IF, IF WE WANNA GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE, THE PAVILION, LARGE RENEWABLE PAVILION OR AMPHITHEATER KIND OF DO, YOU KNOW, TWO TO ONE PARKING STILL BECOMES AN ISSUE, STILL GOING BACK TO THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, THAT'S, I GUESS THE PLAN FROM VERIT THOUGH INCLUDES THE PAVILION, THE 40 BY 40 PAVILION AND THE ADDITIONAL TWO FIELDS.

I'M JUST THINKING PARKING THOUGH IS FIRST.

I KNOW IT SEEMS BACKWARDS, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK YOU PUT PARKING IN FIRST.

'CAUSE I THINK YOU'LL GET USE OUT OF THAT.

I MEAN, I COULD SEE, I CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE PAVILION, WELL IT, THERE'S A NICE, THE THE, THE BIRD HAS A VERY NICE WALKING, HOW DO WE CALL IT? MM-HMM THE PROMENADE ACROSS, PROMENADE ACROSS THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO KEEP ALL THIS KIND OF BIG PICTURE.

BUT THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE.

BUT I THINK A LOT OF THAT'S GONNA BE FUNDED THROUGH, LIKE YOU SAID, A BOND.

AMPHITHEATER AT VETERANS PARK.

I MEAN A LOT OF THIS I THINK IS GONNA HAVE TO COME THROUGH, BUT I, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES.

IF I HAD TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU FOCUS FIRST ON GETTING THAT BRIDGE IS THAT, THAT TIES THE TWO PIECES TOGETHER.

OTHERWISE WE HAVE A NORTH LOT THAT'S NOT ANY, WELL, I'M NOT SAYING NOBODY'S USING IT, OBVIOUSLY.

I JUST TALKED ABOUT YOUNG MEN THAT ARE NOT AFRAID TO TRAE THROUGH THE, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE, I DON'T WANNA, I, I'M JUST GONNA PUT THIS OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

IF ANYBODY LISTENS TO CITY COUNCIL, THE PUSHBACK WE GET FROM THE SOUND, THE PUSHBACK WE GET FROM THE SOUND STAGE AT THE VETERANS PARK, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF LIMITED ON WHAT YOU CAN HAVE THERE.

IT GETS REALLY LIKE, AND I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S IN NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT GETS, YOU KNOW, YOU NOT THE, IF Y'ALL DID ANYBODY GO OUT TO EITHER ONE OF THE CONCERTS? WE MOVED IT OVER ONE LOT.

WE DIDN'T, WE GOT, WE GOT LESS PUSHBACK THERE FROM YEP.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE HAVING THE NOISE.

UH, STILL RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, STILL LESS.

OH, OF COURSE.

BUT FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN THOUGH, , THERE'S NO PERFECT SPOT.

I MEAN, BUT IT MAY BE THAT AN AMPHITHEATER OUT THERE, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL GONNA RUN INTO RANCHO.

YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE IN RANCHO WILL SAY, OUR, THAT SOUND IS TOO CLOSE TO OUR HOME.

I DON'T KNOW.

THEY WOULD, BUT THAT'S WHERE I GUESS WHEN WHOEVER DESIGNED THE AMPHITHEATER, ACOUSTICS WISE, I GUESS THE SOUND ENGINEERS COULD PROBABLY CREATE AN AMPHITHEATER OR WHICHEVER ENVIRONMENT THAT COULD LIKE THROW THE VIBRATIONS TOWARDS A PARTICULAR OH, I'M SURE WE CAN, WE CAN TURN THINGS AND, AND, AND SO THAT WAY, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, EVEN DOWNTOWN, I GUESS WHERE VETERANS PARK IS LOCATED, SAY WE KNOW IF YOU MOVE IT OVER A BLOCK, LIKE YOU SEE, YOU HAVE THE OTHER GUYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SOUND, THE NOISE ONE BLOCK, THE OTHER GUY'S COMPLAINING, FREEDOM PARK, RANCHO, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS THERE.

SO THERE'D BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAY BE COMPLAINING THEN TOO, BUT IT'S LIKE, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP A LITTLE SOMETHING TO GET SOMETHING AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, THEY DON'T WANNA HEAR OTHER NOISE.

BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY ALREADY, I GUESS IN THE MANDO LOOPS THERE, SHE KNOWS YOU'RE ALREADY USED TO THE SOUND FROM THE STADIUM AND FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON OVER THERE, THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND YEP.

SO THEY'RE, AND HOW MANY NIGHTS WEEK? MAYBE ONCE A MONTH.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT TOO.

NOW THIS MAY BE A STRETCH, BUT THINK ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

THINK ABOUT THE AGE OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE AREAS.

SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE MORE SEASONED IN THEIR,

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BUT SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE IN THEIR TWENTIES AND THIRTIES AND FORTIES AND FIFTIES, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH.

SO MAYBE THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PERSON LIVING DOWNTOWN VERSUS OUT UNLESS THEY HAVE CHILDREN.

WELL, THAT'S TRUE .

BUT THE, THE THING AT VETERANS PARK ARE, ARE THEY JUST WANTING TO REPLACE THE GAZEBO THAT WAS THERE? I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF, PEOPLE WERE USED TO THAT MAYBE BECAUSE THAT LIMITED YOU WHAT COULD ACTUALLY BE THERE.

LIKE, IT HAD TO BE LIKE A LITTLE, US HAVING A BAND OR SOMETHING.

IT WOULDN'T, YOU WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO CRANK OUT A BUNCH OF SOUND AT ON THAT, ALTHOUGH THEY DID TRY.

IS THERE, IS THERE ANY, THIS IS, I KNOW I'M GONNA GET PUSHED BACK ON THIS, BUT I'M TRYING TO THINK.

BIG PICTURE, WILD HAIR.

IF WE DON'T SAY IT, WE CAN'T EXPLORE IT.

UHHUH .

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION, IS THERE A GRANT IN PLACE FOR VETERANS PARK? DOES IT HAVE TO BE THERE OR COULD IT BE MOVED? I MEAN, IN THEORY, UH, AS FAR AS I RECALL, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY GRANT TIED TO IT.

UH, 'CAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.

SO I WAS GONNA KIND OF DIRECT AS WELL IS VETERANS PARK IS KIND OF LIKE THIS UNKNOWN DISCUSSION OF WHERE TO GO WITH IT.

AND SO, WHILE I THINK AMPHITHEATER COULD SERVE A PURPOSE, I THINK A MORE OF A MASTER PLAN TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN FOR VETERANS WOULD BE.

IS, UH, IS IT THAT OR IS IT TRULY MORE OF A VETERAN'S MEMORIAL THAT IS A SMALLER POCKET PARK IN THE CITY THAT, UM, SO THAT I LIKE HONORS THEM, HONORS VETERANS IN THAT IS MORE OF A KIND OF, IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT IT IS NOW.

YOU HAVE BENCHES THERE.

YOU WOULD DO BEAUTIFICATION, YOU WOULD'VE A MEMORIAL TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHO HAVE SERVED FROM ENGLETON.

AND YOU TIE IT INTO THAT.

SO WHEN SOMEBODY'S IN TOWN, THEY HAVE A PARK TO GO TO THAT'S KIND OF QUIET, REFLECTIVE, UH, CURRENT FOOTPRINTS.

THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS THAT THAT'S A SMALL PARCEL OF LANDS.

IF THE CONCERT STAYED THERE, COULD IT BE BENEFICIAL? BUT WOULD IT BE HIGHLY USED? UM, AND SO REALLY KNOWING WHAT THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF VETERANS PARK WOULD BE, WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO EXPLORE, UH, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TIE THAT IT WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE TO STAY THERE.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLORE VETERANS PARK OR A DIFFERENT PIECE GOING TO ANOTHER AREA.

WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

I KNOW IT'S, IT'S JUST, JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE LAID OUT IN ANGLETON.

WE HAVE THE COUNTY SEAT, WE HAVE THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, THEY HAVE THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THAT REFLECTIVE AREA.

OR, OR IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE.

AND THEN WE HAVE MEMORIAL PARK THAT'S LIKE A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY.

SOMEHOW THEY EITHER NEED TO BE CONNECTED OR LIKE LITERALLY WE GET WITH THE COUNTY AND SAY, HEY, WE'D WANT TO, WE WANT TO INCORPORATE OUR VETERANS PARK ON I KNOW.

COUNTY LAND, OR I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW, IT JUST SEEMS DISCONNECTED PRESENT PRESENTLY.

AND SO, UM, I DUNNO, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK.

S PARK, IT, ITS CITY PROPERTY.

AND, AND IT'S JUST NOT .

AND I'M NOT SAYING, BECAUSE HERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT, AND THIS IS JUST THROWING US OUT THERE.

IF IT WERE SOMETHING WE WERE TO CONSIDER, IT COULD BE A PARCEL THAT COULD BE SOLD OFF TURNS INTO A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PIECE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

I KNOW COX AND ALL THAT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T WANT, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT DOWNTOWN ANGLETON WON'T DIE.

I HOPE IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, BUT I JUST, JUST, JUST THOUGHTS, I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANY OF THESE.

I'M JUST THROWING THESE IDEAS.

I KNOW WILD HAIR'S OUT THERE TO SEE IF ANYBODY WOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE A IDEA OF RECONFIGURING THINGS.

SELL IT TO SELL IT TO THE COUNTY.

SELL IT TO ANY, I MEAN, BUT YOU GET, WHO WOULD SOMEBODY WHO WOULD PAY TAXES ON IT? I MEAN, YOU CAN TURN IT INTO DEVELOPMENT AND READ JOHN.

I DON'T THINK, I THINK I'M UPSETTING JOHN HERE.

WELL, BASICALLY THIS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST SO TOUGH.

SUCH, IT'S LIKE IN THE BACK OF A HALF OF A BACK HALF OF A, A BLOCK.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT SHUTTING SHENANGO DOWN RIGHT THERE AND TAKING THAT PART OF THE ROAD INTO THE PARK BECAUSE THE ROAD TO NOTHING NOW.

WELL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXIT.

CLOSE IT HAD THAT IDEA, I THOUGHT FLOAT AROUND AS WELL OF IT IS IN A PRIME LOCATION DOWNTOWN THAT IF DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED TO THRIVE, INVESTMENT IN THAT PARK COULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT WOULD PROVIDE FURTHER VALUE FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOWN THERE BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE PROVIDING SOME OF THAT ENTERTAINMENT PIECE OF A PLACE TO GO.

BUT I THINK THE PARKING LOT.

BUT MAN, YOU'RE, YOU, YOU, YOU NEED TO COME DOWNTOWN AND WORK DOWNTOWN AT SCHOOL, AT THE COURTHOUSE.

AND YOU WOULD SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS, IF YOU'RE SHUTTING DOWN EVEN MORE TRAFFIC.

IT, IT'S PRETTY BRUTAL ON MONDAYS AND THURSDAYS TO, TO TRY TO DRIVE AROUND DOWNTOWN.

OH, TRY.

I DIDN'T WANT SHANG CLOSED AT OFF, BUT, UH, TRAVIS TO YOUR POINT TOO, I CAN TELL YOU DIDN'T

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RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST AN OPEN SPOT WHERE A GAZEBO USED TO BE.

UM, VERSUS, WELL, IT'S A NICE GREEN SPACE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A TERRIBLE, IT'S NOT TERRIBLE, BUT A REINVESTMENT INTO WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE WOULD BE, WELL, THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A PARKING LOT, RIGHT? I MEAN, A FEW YEARS AGO WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON DOWNTOWN TRYING TO GET IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE COURTHOUSE PEOPLE.

SO HAVING THAT PART, THERE WOULD BE A SMALL PLACE WHERE THEY MAYBE COULD GO, MAYBE SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD GO AND SIT IN THE TREES AND EAT LUNCH OR SOMETHING.

AND THEN IF THEY HAVE MORE TIME, GO OVER INTO DOWNTOWN WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE.

I, I, THERE'S ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED YET, AND I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE IT GETS OUT THERE, IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT UPGRADING OUR FACILITIES AND OUR PARKS.

YOU KNOW, I FIND IT VERY, UM, ALARMING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, BATES PARK THAT IS STILL, UM, THE PARKING AREA WHERE BY THE BATHROOMS IS ATROCIOUS, UM, THE WHY THAT CAN'T BE PAVED OR THE PART IN FRONT OF IT.

OR WE FIX THE OTHER SIDE WHERE YOU COME IN OFF OF SOUTH WALKER, YOU MAKE THAT CURVE WHEN YOU GO STRAIGHT THROUGH THERE, THERE'S TRIPLE CURVES OR WHATEVER.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID THE CURVES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE CONCESSION STAND LIES ON THE OLD ROAD, BASICALLY.

UM, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING, THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING ALL THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME DURING TOURNAMENTS.

WHY NOT JUST EMBRACE IT AND GO AHEAD AND PUT A PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE AS WELL, A PRI YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR UMPIRES AND COACHES OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE BY THE BATHROOM, PAVE THAT.

AND WE FIX AN A DA ISSUE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALK FOR PEOPLE TO GET OR A WHEELCHAIR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING ACROSS THE CRUSH, THE GRAVEL, AND IT, IT'S HARD FOR THEM.

THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE NEAREST, WHICH IS LIKE ON FIELD TWO TO GET ONTO THE SIDEWALK, TO COME UP THE SIDE, THE RAMP.

WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A WHILE, , SO WE'VE NEVER FIXED THIS.

SO TO ME, BEFORE WE START EXPANDING PARKING LOTS OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT FREEDOM.

BUT ON THE BAIT SIDE, WE'VE, WE NEED TO FIX WHAT WE'VE GOT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT JUST JUMPS OUT AT ME EVERY TIME THAT, SO I, I'M GONNA PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE.

UM, I DON'T, I I LIKE YOUR IDEA FRAMEWORK.

I WOULD PREFER WE START THINKING ABOUT REORGANIZING THE WHOLE PARKING LOT RATHER THAN JUST FIX A PIECE.

WHY DON'T WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA FIX PARKING IN GENERAL? LIKE YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE DROVE AROUND.

IT IS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT CULVERTS AND RIGHT.

BUT THAT MAY BE A LIKE WHERE WE HAVE TO GET AN ACTUAL ENGINEERING INSTEAD OF JUST YEAH.

SCOOPING OUT SOME, UH, GRAVEL AND PAVING OVER WITH CONCRETE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL FINDING PARKING AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, SIDEWALKS THAT LEAD TO THE PARKING AND, AND OR WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE AND MAKE SURE WE STILL HAVE THE DRAINAGE IN PLACE.

YOU KNOW, IT JUST, UH, RATHER THAN JUST THROW SOME CONCRETE DOWN AND NO, WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.

I'M JUST SAYING, FIX WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW.

IF WE WANT TO FIX WHAT WE GOT AND THEN THE FUTURE REARRANGE IT.

IF WE WANT TO FIX IT NOW THE RIGHT WAY AND THE LONG TERM PLAN, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING LET'S PUT THAT ON THE PRIORITY AND LET'S START WORKING TOWARDS IT.

UM, BEFORE WE START ADDING A LOT OF NEW STUFF.

LET'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

HOW WE FIX IT.

I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL IF I GOT WITH HDR TO LOOK AT THAT SITE PLAN? AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD COME UP BECAUSE THERE ARE, I KNEW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AND I'LL, WE CAN WALK THROUGH JOHN.

THERE'S THE, THE SPACE IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE CONCESSION STAND.

SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE GOOD PLACE FOR WILL OR FOR, OR DISABLED PARKING.

MORE DESIGNATED PARKING SPOTS THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK WOULD AFFECT YOUR TREE LINE, WOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR DRAINAGE, BUT AGAIN, PUTS AGAINST SOME DESIGNATED PARKING THAT'S CONCRETE.

SEEMS LIKE, UH, BUT IF YOU WORK YOUR WAY A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS WEST MM-HMM .

WHERE THAT WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN, THERE'S LIKE A SHARP TURN AND THEN YEAH.

THERE'S SOME CULVERTS THERE.

I THINK YOU COULD START, YOU COULD STILL KEEP THE DRAINAGE PIECE, BUT START COVERING IT WITH SOME CULVERTS AND ADD, AGAIN, SOME

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AND AGAIN, COMING BACK TO JOHN, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THOSE, UH, DOESN'T, THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO BE MARKED FOR, YOU KNOW, HANDICAPPED PEOPLE.

BUT I DO THINK THERE'S SOME THAT NEED TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE OKAY.

AND THEN ALSO TO ADD ON BATES IS WE'VE LOST A LOT OF TREES OUT THERE AND WE'VE, WE REALLY NEED TO BE PROACTIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT NEW TREES ARE GETTING PLANTED WHEN WE TAKE ALL THESE OLD, OLD ONES OUT THAT HAVE DIED.

I AGREE.

I THINK WE GOTTA START LOOKING AT THE PECANS IF WE'RE GONNA, OR IF YOU'RE GONNA GO IN WITH A NO, WHICH IS FINE TOO.

YOU GOTTA GET TO START GETTING THOSE IN THE GROUND BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA TAKE 20 YEARS TO GET YOUR, YOU CAN GET A PRETTY GOOD SIZE OAK TREE PUT IN.

YOU CAN, IT JUST, BUT IT'S JUST WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT YOU, IF YOU SPEND YEP.

$5,000, YOU GET A REAL NICE TREE.

YOU KNOW, , I MEAN I, THE ONLY THING ABOUT OAK TREES, THEY TEND TO GET BLOWN OVER DURING YEAH.

ONCE THEY, ONCE THEY TAKE YOU ROO THAT GOES WAY DOWN.

I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GO BACK WITH PECANS BECAUSE EVERY FALL PEOPLE GO OUT THERE AND PICK THE PECANS.

THEY LOVE GOING OUT THERE FOR THAT.

OUR PECANS A PAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS SHEDDING LIMBS.

YES, THEY ARE.

OH YES.

AND I'M SURE THE, THE PARK, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

JUST SITS THERE AND HATES THOSE MACON EVERY TIME THEY HAVE TO GO MOW.

WE TOOK ONE DOWN TODAY.

AHA.

SEE? RIGHT ON CUE.

BUT I MEAN, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS, THERE'S GONNA BE QUITE A FEW MORE OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE GOING OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE DYING OVER THERE.

AND IS IT IS, I GUARANTEE YOU I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH AROUND THERE FOR BOTH FREEDOM AND, UH, BATES, BATES SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS.

PEOPLE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY'RE ALWAYS BLOWN AWAY.

THEY'RE LIKE, WOW.

AND IF YOU'RE PLAYING SOFTBALL IN JUNE AND JULY, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THERE IS A SHADE STRUCTURE.

IT'S OUR PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.

IT'S GOD'S SHADE.

YOU KNOW, WE LITERALLY HAVE THESE TREES THAT ARE JUST LIFESAVERS FROM THE HEAT ON THE, ON THE FREEDOM SIDE.

IT'S JUST THE PEOPLE ARE, THEY'LL COME IN FROM HOUSTON AND THEY'LL BE LIKE, WAIT, I COULD JUST TURN MY KID LOOSE AND LET 'EM GO PLAY.

LIKE THIS IS UNHEARD OF.

LIKE, THIS IS 1970S ALL OVER AGAIN.

WE LOVE IT.

YOU KNOW, AND THEY COME AND THEY CAN JUST TURN THEIR KIDS TO GO RUN DOWN AND PLAY AND THEY CAN WATCH THEIR GAME WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING TUGGED ON THE WAIST AND BEING FORCED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN WATCH THE OTHER CHILD PLAY.

SO THEY BOTH HAVE REALLY GREAT STRUCTURES, BUT WHICH WE JUST UPDATED FREEDOM.

NOW THE IDEA IS WE NEED TO START GOING BACK TO BATES AND START MAKING SURE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA LAST GENERATIONS.

NOW THOSE ARE MY ONLY TWO THINGS TO ADD THAT I SAW THAT I KIND OF WANNA MAKE SURE I GET LISTED.

DAVID, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? HOW MUCH TIME YOU GOT ? I'M ALREADY OVER 14 MINUTES, BUT KEEP GOING.

HE LOST A BET.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE INTEREST IN THIS GUYS.

THIS IS REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGING.

SO, UM, THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR CONSIDERING ALL THIS.

UM, TRAVIS, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE PARKING, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE PARKING AND FREEDOM.

UH, WE KIND OF CAME DOWN ON THE SIDE THAT WE GOT THE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A WALK.

BUT FOR THE MONEY THAT WE'D SAVE IN UTILIZING THAT BIG HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM PARKING LOT GOES A LONG WAYS TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE COULD GET ON.

UH, THE PREVENTABLE THE RENTABLE PAVILION AT AT FREEDOM PARK.

OUR THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF LITTLE PAVILIONS THERE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A, A FOOT A, A BASEBALL TEAM AND YOU WANNA RENT A PAVILION FOR A COOKOUT OR SOMETHING AFTER A GAME, SOMETHING LARGE ENOUGH TO UTILIZE A A WHOLE TEAM WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DUMPED A LOT OF MONEY IN, IN BASEBALL FIELDS FOR BOYS BASEBALL AND MAYBE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE GIRLS SOFTBALL THE RESPECT THAT THEY RESERVE DESERVE.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S A BIG FOCAL POINT.

PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN MM-HMM .

TO SEE THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY I GUESS IT WAS ITEM NUMBER TWO AND THREE, UH, BOTH ADDRESS THAT ONE.

UH, WITH THE BRIDGE THAT GOES TO THE, UH, PASSIVE AREA FREEDOM.

I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY.

WE TALKED ABOUT A-T-P-W-D GRANT ON THAT MAYBE IN THE SPRING.

IS THAT YES.

IS THAT SOMETHING? A GRAND TRAILS GRANT IN FEBRUARY EVERY YEAR.

GOOD.

UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT THE NOTES THAT I HAVE ON THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAME UP WITH ANY OF THIS? I DO WANNA ASK YOU ABOUT NUMBER TWO ON THE PLAYGROUND.

TO THE RESTROOM PAVILION THAT WAS, UH, ALSO TAKEN DOWN AND UPGRADED THE PION AREA.

DIDN'T WE JUST REPLACE THAT PLAYGROUND AT BATES PARK IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS? THAT WAS STICKY.

THAT WAS DICKIE THE ONE AT, WHEN WAS THE ONE AT BATES REPLACED? BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO.

WE TOOK ONE DOWN.

UH, WE TOOK ONE DOWN.

YOU CORRECT.

THE ONE THAT WAS, UH, BACKED BY RESTROOM AREA

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CAN SOMEBODY FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT ONE THAT'S THERE WAS PUT IN? UH, ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.

THEN, YEAH.

IN MY MIND IT WAS JUST REPLACED BECAUSE I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE REPLACED IT.

SO, UH, KIND OF THE SAME THING THERE.

WHEN WHEN YOU COME TO FREEDOM, YOU CAN LET YOUR KIDS PLAY THE KIDS THAT AREN'T PLAYING BASEBALL.

OH YEAH.

AND SAME THING, IT MAKES THE KIDS THAT AREN'T PLAYING SOFTBALL, THEY NEED A PLAYGROUND RIGHT THERE TOO.

AN UP TO DATE MODERN.

AND EVEN PEOPLE USING THE PAVILION, THEY MAY HAVE THEIR OLDER KID PLAYING BASKETBALL OR REHEARSING THEIR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, CONCI DANCE AND LET THE OTHER KIDS PLAY ON THE PLAYGROUND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING.

UH, JOHN, TO YOUR POINT ON THAT ONE, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES WE'VE WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH AS WELL.

I DID LEAVE THAT ON THERE BECAUSE IT WAS CAME FROM THE BOARD.

UM, AND SO WE ARE AROUND THAT REPLACEMENT TIME OF UH, RECOMMENDED ABOUT 15 YEARS.

COULD WE GET MORE YEARS OUTTA IT? YES.

UH, BUT PART OF THE REASON WE COUPLED THAT ONE TOGETHER IS THAT PAVILION, UH, MINUS THE SMALLER ONES THAT, UH, FREEDOM AND THINGS.

UH, THE PAVILION AT BATES AND THE PAVILION AT MASTER CENTER ARE TWO MORE UTILIZED PAVILIONS.

THAT ARE, UH, OLDER PAVILIONS THAT NEED WORK.

SO THE ONE THAT BATES HAS A CRACK THROUGH THE FOUNDATION MM-HMM .

AND THE CANOPY.

UM, I'M SHORT, SO IT WORKS FINE FOR ME, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU MIGHT BE DUCKING.

UH, PEOPLE HIT THEIR HEADS ALL THE TIME GOING, THERE'S NOT, UH, NOT ME.

THERE'S NOT ACCESS AS FAR AS THE A DA COMPONENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS KIND OF A, A PACKAGE PIECE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY TOGETHER.

BUT PAVILION WAS PROBABLY A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE PLAYGROUND.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT FOUNDATION AND THE SETUP FOR THAT ONE.

SO I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THE PAVILION.

THE PLAYGROUND STILL LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD, WE'VE STILL GOT TIME.

WE, WE JUST DID SOME REPLACEMENT STUFF ON IT.

UM, IT IS GETTING THERE.

UH, SO AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THINK LIKE SEE IT DETERIORATE.

LIKE WE STARTED TO SEE, UH, FREEDOM DO.

WE STILL SHOULD HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO UPKEEP A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND UH, DO A LITTLE BIT MORE MAINTENANCE INTO IT.

BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A COUPLE YEARS ON THAT ONE.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE PAVILION THAT'S TYPICALLY ONE OF THE HIGHER UTILIZED PAVILION STICKY COMES FIRST JUST BECAUSE BETTER PAVILIONS AND UH, THE PLAYGROUND.

BUT BATES WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

IT WOULD BECOME A MORE HIGHLY, UH, RENTABLE SPACE.

UH, FOR THAT ONE.

I THINK A LOT.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER PAVILION.

UM, BUT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF IT ISN'T THE GREATEST.

SO, NO, I AGREE.

I I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT REPLACEMENT OF THE PAVILION BATES FIRST, BUT UM, YEAH.

MASTER SENT IN BATES, THOSE TWO PAVILIONS ARE, YOU COULD GO ON WITH THE LITTLE PREFAB METAL AND MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT BIGGER MM-HMM .

AND GET A LOT LONGER LI LIFE OUT OF IT AND PROBABLY BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION.

IT ALSO, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT, IT FLOODS.

IT, THE WATER GOES IN YEP.

WHEN IT RAINS.

AND THE ONE THAT HAD MASTER INIA.

SO YEAH, FIXING THAT PAD AND BATES IS, UH, THE, THE PAD MAY NOT FLOOD, BUT THE, THE MOAT AROUND IT DOES.

YOU, YOU CAN'T GET OUT 'CAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK TO IT.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO WALK TO THAT.

BUT IF IT WAS COMPARABLE TO THE ONE AT DICKY, SO THE DICKIE WE HAD THE, THE LARGER PAVILION, THE SMALLER ONE, IF IT WAS MORE COMPARABLE TO THE LARGER PAVILION, YOU WOULD SEE A A LOT MORE HEAVY USAGE OF THAT.

UM, BUT THE ALL, I SEE ALL THESE THINGS TOO.

TO GO BACK TO THIS PAGE AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE ADA A PARK, UM, TRANSITION PLAN MM-HMM .

I, I WOULDN'T SPEND THE MONEY ON THE PLAN UNTIL WE START FIXING SOME OF THE THINGS WE ALREADY KNOW WE'VE GOTTA FIX.

SO I'D RATHER PUT THE MONEY INTO THOSE PROJECTS BEFORE I GO PUT IT INTO A PLAN.

WELL, AND THAT, SO THE PLAN, THAT'S THINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

SO IF WE DO SOME OF THESE PARK PROJECTS, SO, UH, IF WE WERE TO ADJUST THE PAVILION AND WE DID A SIDEWALK TO IT, THAT WOULD KNOCK OFF SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE PLAN.

SO SOME OF THEM DO CORRELATE WITH EACH OTHER.

UH, VERSUS THE PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE.

SO EXAMPLE IS LIKE THE REC CENTER.

UH, ADDRESSING THE DECK KNOCKS THAT OFF THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE PLAN.

AND SO SOME OF THAT DOESN'T, UH, IS NO LONGER APPLIES 'CAUSE WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT THE MONEY THAT ALLOCATED HERE IS IF WE WERE JUST TO DO ONLY AN A DA COMPONENT VERSUS TYING IT INTO A PROJECT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

AND DO YOU HAVE THE BREAKDOWN ON THE COVERED SEATING AT BATES PARK? UM, BY FIELD, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST? UH, SO FIELD THREE, UH, BASED ON THIS PROJECTION, IT WAS ACTUALLY TO DO THE FOUR FIELDS THAT DON'T HAVE IT.

ABOUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE JUST LIKE FREEDOM, FREEDOM PARKS, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, WIDER SOMETHING.

UH, IT'S APPRO APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 35,000 FOR ONE FIELD.

AND SO IT'S ABOUT 15 PER STRUCTURE RIGHT.

AROUND, GIVE OR TAKE THERE.

UH, SO YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO TWO FIELDS, YOU'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 60 TO 70.

NOW IS THIS, YOU AND I TALKED OFFLINE.

I THINK TRAVIS WAS THERE WHEN WE TALKED

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WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT.

UH, SO THAT, THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THEM EXPANDING IT OUT FARTHER THAN SOME OF THE SEEDING.

OH, SO 15,000 WOULD BE BIGGER.

YEAH, IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT, THEY'RE 26 BY 14 I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT WAS SLATED AS.

BUT WE COULD FURTHER, WE, WE, AND I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED, THEY HAVE STANDARD OPTIONS WHICH THEY CAN GO TO AND PULL OUT OF THEIR WAREHOUSE.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADAPT IT, AS LONG AS IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WIND ADJUSTED, IT'S GONNA HOLD UP THEN MAKE IT A LITTLE TA HOW TALLER, A LITTLE DEEPER, A LITTLE WIDER, DEPENDING ON, AGAIN, THE, THE ENGINEERING IS IN PLACE THAT IT WON'T GO TOPPLING OVER, BUT SO 60 GETS YOU TWO? YEAH.

THEY HAD SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR EACH.

AND WE, WE WERE GONNA MAKE IT NICE.

IT'D BE A CANTILEVER SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE AT FREEDOM.

AT FREEDOM AND YEAH, I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT WAS A, THE BAY WEATHER, WE SHOULD GO WITH SOMETHING MORE CUSTOMIZABLE, MORE CUSTOM VERSUS SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE STANDARD.

YOU SAVE MONEY MORE STANDARD SAVE MONEY AND JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT AND JUST PLACE IT FEW FEET HERE OR FEW THERE AND JUST BE THE SAME THING.

AND YOU SAVE MONEY ON THAT ONE.

WE HAVE MORE COVERAGE TRYING TO PULL IT UP.

'CAUSE TO THAT POINT, I CAN TELL YOU THEY DID ALTER FIELD FIVE BECAUSE FIELDS FIVE BLEACHERS ARE SMALLER AND THE CONCRETE FOOTPRINT OVER THERE IS SMALLER.

UH, AND I WAS UH, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT THEY STILL THINK THERE'S SOME CONCRETE WORK YOU MAY NEED TO DO AROUND, WELL, AND THEY, THEY WOULD'VE BE ABLE TO, UH, IF I BELIEVE FOR THAT ONE THEY WOULD'VE BEEN, THEY WOULD'VE DONE A SEPARATE INSTEAD OF, UH, ATTACHING INTO THE CONCRETE.

SO THEY WOULD'VE PUT PIERS TO ATTACH TO.

BUT IF I RECALL, I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP, THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CUSTOMIZED AND THE COST FOR THAT WAS, IF NOT THE SAME, COULD HAVE BEEN MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE LARGER STRUCTURES.

I WOULD HOLD OFF ON FIVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED IT IMMEDIATELY.

I WOULDN'T DO FIVE RIGHT NOW.

I ALSO THINK IF, LIKE, I'M SERIOUS ON THAT THIRD BASE, FIRST BASE SIDE, THE EAST SIDE, THERE IS A SLEW DITCH THAT RUNS RIGHT, ALMOST RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WATCH.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA WASH AWAY A LOT OF SEEDING.

I MEAN IT JUST IS, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT IDEAL.

SO EXAM AND THEY GET TO PULL IT UP.

UM, THE STRUCTURE FOR THE FIELD FIVE WAS A 20 BY 16 AND IT CAME AT $20,000 FOR THE TWO OF THEM.

SO I WOULD HOLD OFF.

IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE STANDARD ONE.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE OR DIRECTION TO ADD? SO I HAVE EXPLORE LOOKING AT THREE AND FOUR TO ADD.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL CONFIDENT PUTTING IN FOR CONTINGENCY FOR NEXT YEAR? I WOULD.

I WOULDN'T DO IT NOW.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXPLORE ADDING THREE AND FOUR FOR CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR.

AND, OKAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO DO FIELDS THREE AND FOUR OUTTA CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR.

UM, WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, UH, TRAVIS, UH, I'M LISTENING, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BITE OFF THE 13,000 FOR THE RES STRIPING OF THE PARKING LOTS? YES.

YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S NUMBER ONE IS THAT I DO REPORTED .

THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T PRIORITIZED IN THAT ORDER, BUT SO YOU WANNA AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT? I DO.

I'LL MAKE MY MOTION TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE THAT I HAVE A AMEND SECOND.

I ALSO SECOND THAT PART.

SO I HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION AND AMEND.

SECOND.

I DO ALSO WANT TO MAKE A, A DISCUSSION POINT THAT YOU, UM, SPEAK WITH THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION REGARDING LOTS A AND B.

WE CAN DO THE SIMILAR FOR BATES.

PARDON? I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS YET.

WHO DOES THAT ROAD BELONG TO? THAT WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED WHEN WE TRUCKED ALL THE DIRT OVER THERE.

THE ENTRANCE EXIT ROAD OR THAT ROAD? IT, IT'S THAT SMALL ROAD THAT CONNECTS ONE, THE ONE WHAT'S THAT GOES SOUTH? NOT, NOT THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE ONE ON THE, THE WEST SIDE.

THAT'S JUST WEST OF PARKING LOT.

B YEAH, THAT'S OUR ROAD.

THE EXIT ROAD.

THAT'S OUR ROAD.

THAT'S, THAT'S THAT MAY BE SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE SHAPE.

AND TECHNICALLY THAT'S A PUBLIC WORKS ROAD BECAUSE THE CONNECTION POINT, THERE'S, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW IT GETS INTO MAYBE ONLY 150 YARDS LONG.

200 YARDS.

I BET PEOPLE, EVERYONE TOUCHED THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO GET AROUND THAT

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ROAD.

THAT ROAD PROBABLY OF, I'M SURPRISED THERE ARE MORE TRANSMISSION'S JUST SITTING IN THE NEXT TO OUR, UM, OUR HILLS.

NEXT TO OUR, WELL OUR NEW HILL, THE NEWEST HILL OF ALL WHERE WE PUT ALL THE EXTRA DIRT.

IT RUNS RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.

RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE HILL.

THAT'S WHAT CAUSE THE DAMAGE TECHNICALLY, I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SAY THAT'S A CONSIDERED A ROAD, BUT WE CAN OH, IT'S A ROAD .

IT'S SOMETHING, YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING, YES.

SOMETHING I, WE, I CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THAT.

PEOPLE USE IT AND PUT IT DOWN WAY OVER.

I MEAN EVEN IF WE JUST LEVEL IT WITH CRUSH, YOU KNOW.

ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BLACKED OFF ANYMORE.

JUST YOU GOT, I MEAN THERE'S JUST FILL IT IN AND DO SOMETHING.

YEAH, WE'VE GOTTA, I MEAN IT'S JUST LIKE, I I I MEAN IT'S, I'LL GET WITH DOCTOR TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THAT.

SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROJECT PRIORITIES ON THIS LIST OR ON OUR PREVIOUS LIST THAT YOU, I THINK YOU STATED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET INCLUSION? I WOULD ADD THEM TO THIS.

ADD 'EM TO IT WITH THE PRIORITIZATION ON THE SIDE.

UM, AND THEN WE CAN START GOING OFF OF A, A MASTER LIST THAT WE CAN START MOVING IN AS PARKS BOARD FIND SOMETHING.

THEY SEND IT OVER TO US AND OKAY.

WE CAN ADD OUR STUFF.

I DO, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING AGGRESSIVE ON GRANTS.

THERE'S ONE THING, AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT OUGHT TO BE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, 27, BUT SOMETHING TO THAT I REALLY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, COMING FOUR YEARS OUT OR SO START LOOKING AT IS ACTUAL, UH, ADDING ON TO THE REC CENTER ITSELF.

UM, IF ANY ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S A MATCHING PORTION, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOTTA SAVE SOME FOR THAT MATCHING PORTION PART.

BUT, UM, Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT THE BRIDGE OR WHATEVER, JUST ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

UM, I THINK WE SHOULD BE AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I REITERATED TO THE PARKS BOARD WAS LETTING 'EM KNOW THAT NOW THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED, THAT THE PRIORITY LIST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IS FOR US TO KEEP THOSE IN MIND OF WHEN WE LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES OF HOW THAT WOULD SUPPORT.

SO, OKAY.

WELL I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE POSTS, SAME SIGNED MOTION CARRIES.

THAT'S GREAT.

WE'RE GONNA GET THESE, SOME OF THESE THINGS FIXED.

NICE TO SEE.

[COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS ]

RUNNING INTO SPACE PROBLEMS THERE.

AND DR.

JACKSON'S IN LONG AS YOU GOT SOME, HE'S ONLY, YOU GOT SOME RACK BALL COURTS, SQUASH COURT.

IS THAT WHAT WE NEED? THANK YOU.

YOU REALLY, YOU REALLY BROUGHT THIS TO LIGHT.

I, I MOVE, WE ADJOURNED .

SO YOU, YOU, YOU EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE SHOULD EXPAND THE REC CENTER AND SO MAYBE WE CAN TEAM UP AND SO THE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY WANT IN THE RACK ABOUT COURT AND ESPECIALLY ASANA, WE'RE ON POINT.

YOU WILLING TO FUND IT? I CONCUR PORTION.

I CONCUR A PORTION.

SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED THE NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET SCHEDULES FOR BONDS.

'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S COMING FORWARD.

WHAT'S THE NEXT YEAR? I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT.

I WE GOT A COUPLE HUNDRED BUDGET.

IT'S NOT NEXT YEAR.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO, I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO OFF DEBT SERVICE JUST YET.

NO, YEAH.

NO, NO, NO.

BUT I'M SAYING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW IT MIGHT TURN INTO, OH, HEY, SOMETHING BROKE AND, UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO YEAH.

POPULATION'S GROWING.

IT'S A GREAT COMMUNICATION FROM THE BOARD ONE.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMUNICATIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7 29.