Jun 15, 2026 Angleton Better Living Corporation

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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER ]

APPRECIATE THE TIME WE'RE GOING

[1. Update and discussion on the Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation, and Angleton Recreation Center YTD financial statements as of May 31, 2026.]

HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU AT OUR CURRENT YEAR-TO-DATE, WE'RE AT 3%, WHICH IS AT ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE PROJECTED. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE DISCUSSION ITEMS LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CONTINUE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A POSITIVE TREND, BUT JUST KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY SITTING AT HALF OF WHAT WE PROJECTED. SO THAT WILL IMPACT CURRENTLY OUR CONTINGENCY LINE. UM, EXPENSE-WISE, NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY THERE, BUT AGAIN MENTIONING THE CONTINGENCY LINE, WE HAD SLATED FOR ABOUT $295,000 IN CONTINGENCY, SO HAVE A GOOD CONTINGENCY, SHOULD COVER IT. BUT AGAIN, AS WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS, KEEP THAT IN MIND. UM, ALSO TO POINT OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSFER AMOUNTS, MOST OF THOSE TRANSFERS HAVEN'T HAPPENED IN FULL YET, SO WORKING WITH FINANCE WE TRIED TO DO THOSE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND SO WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT FULL AMOUNT. SO THAT'S THE SAME THING AS YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OR LOOK AT THE FINAL BALANCE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT'S REMAINING IN THE FUNDS. WE STILL HAVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRANSFERS STILL TO TAKE PLACE, BUT YOU'LL SEE THERE THAT ABOUT 50% OF THOSE TRANSFERS HAVE TAKEN PLACE SO FAR.

REGARDING THE RECREATION DIVISION, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SIMILAR THING AS YOU LOOK AT THEIR CURRENT YEAR-TO-DATE AS FAR AS REVENUE GOES, THEIR CURRENT REVENUE WAS SITTING AT ABOUT 56%. AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THE ABLC TRANSFER. I CAN TELL YOU, TELL YOU THAT YOU WILL SEE THIS ONE JUMP UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE NEXT ONE AS WELL. THEY ARE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS THEIR YEAR-TO-DATE GOES. LAST NUMBERS I RAN, I WANT TO SAY THEY ARE ABOUT $5,000 OFF FROM THEIR REVENUE GOAL. AND SO WE ANTICIPATE WITH THE THIS YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED A SUMMER CAMP PAYMENT PLAN, AND SO WE'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF THAT OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AND THAT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DELAY THEIR PAYMENT UNTIL 2 WEEKS PRIOR TO CAMP. AND SO THERE'S STILL SOME OF THE WEEKS OF CAMP THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID FOR YET. AND AGAIN, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 50% OF PEOPLE WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT TREND WE SAW FROM LAST YEAR. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SIGNING UP A WEEK BEFORE, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO SECURE SPOTS AND PAY FOR THAT. SO AGAIN, YOU SHOULD SEE THEIR REVENUES SHOULD HIT THEIR MARK THIS YEAR.

EXPENSE-WISE, FOLLOWING THE SIMILAR TRENDS, THEY ARE ON POINT EXPENSE-WISE, CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO BE BUDGET-CONSCIOUS AND BUDGET-FRIENDLY. SO THEIR CURRENT BALANCE YOU WILL SEE IS SITTING AT ABOUT 53%, WHICH IS RIGHT ON PAR AS THEY PREP FOR SUMMER. SO WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEIRS WILL REMAIN WITHIN BUDGET FOR THE RECREATION DIVISION. THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO PREDICT AT THE CURRENT TIME, ALTHOUGH WE ARE TRENDING WELL NOW THAT THE POOL IS BACK OPEN. WE'RE STARTING TO SEE DAY PASSES DEFINITELY INCREASE. I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE ON PAR RIGHT NOW TO BEAT OUR NUMBERS FROM LAST JUNE, WHICH IS POSITIVE NEWS FOR US, ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE CLOSURE THAT WE HAD. AND SO ONCE THOSE JUNE NUMBERS OFFICIALLY COME IN, WE HAVE SEEN GREAT FOOT TRAFFIC THROUGH THE FACILITY, BOTH IN DAY PASS AND OUR MEMBERSHIPS.

SO YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL THE POOL'S BACK OPEN. SO WE'LL KNOW MORE AS WE GET PROBABLY INTO THE JUNE NUMBERS OF KIND OF, OR SORRY, THE AUGUST NUMBERS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT FOR THE YEAR. BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR. KNOWING THAT WE WERE CLOSED, WE WILL HAVE A SAVINGS FROM, YOU KNOW, POOL OPERATIONS, FROM THE LIFEGUARDS, AND FROM STAFFING.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF, IS REALLY WATCH OUR SPENDING TO KEEP OURSELVES UNDER BUDGET ON THAT ONE. SIMILAR THING, AS I MENTIONED, EXPENSE-WISE.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THE BIGGEST, LIKE, PART-TIME STAFF ONLY HAS A 25% EXPENSE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ALMOST 3 QUARTERS OF THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE, THE BIGGEST ONE THUS FAR THAT WE'RE KEEPING A KEEPING AN EYE ON TO MAKE SURE WE STAY

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THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT ONE. YEAH, AND WE DID FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO UTILIZE THEM THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, BUT NOTHING COMPARED TO WHERE THEY WERE AT. AND SO, I MEAN, A LOT OF THEM SAW THEIR HOURS DROP TO 5 HOURS A WEEK MAYBE WHEN WE COULD FIND THINGS FOR THEM TO SUPPORT. THE PROGRAMMING FOR THE REC CENTER, THE ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ON.

OUT OF ALL THE EVENTS, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE ABOUT 90%, 60%? ARE THERE MORE PROGRAMS STILL TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 4 MONTHS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN HERE? UM, FOR THE REC CENTER, THE BIGGEST PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY, IF WE TALK ABOUT THE 60 DIVISION WITH SWIM LESSONS, SO THERE'S EXPENSES RELATED TO THAT THAT HAVEN'T COME IN YET. SO YOU'LL SEE THE REVENUES HAVE COME IN, MOST PEOPLE HAVE REGISTERED FOR THAT, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THAT EXPENSE YET. SO THAT'S ONE PROGRAM-WISE.

FOR REC CENTER SPECIFICALLY, OTHER THAN THAT, MOST OF THEIR PROGRAMMING WOULD BE DONE. REC DIVISION IS VERY SIMILAR.

BUT SAME THING EXPENSE-WISE, SUMMER CAMP IS GOING TO BE THEIR BIG EXPENSE, TRACK CAMP AND VOLLEYBALL. SO YOU'LL STILL SEE QUITE A BIT OF PART-TIME SALARIES EQUATED TO THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS PROGRAM SUPPORT, A LOT OF THAT PORTION HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE THE PREP FOR THAT AND BUSY SEASON THIS SUMMER. SO, AND THEN THEY WON'T HAVE ANYTHING PROGRAM-WISE UNTIL REALLY OCTOBER. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO GET OUR NEXT MONTHLY UPDATE? SALES TAX? SO THE ONE WE JUST GOT WAS LIKE ABOUT A WEEK AGO, AND SO THE NEXT ONE WON'T BE UNTIL BEGINNING OF JULY.

YEAH. YEP. SUSIE, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT FINANCIALLY ON ABLC, BEING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, OUR REVENUES ARE DOWN HALF OF WHAT WE THOUGHT THEY'D BE? SO THE ONLY LINE THAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO IS THE CONTINGENCY LINE? YEAH, BY MOST, NO, THE REST OF THE STUFF WE SHOULD BE RIGHT ON POINT FOR. WE, A LOT OF THE CURRENT ITEMS FOR ABLC ARE TIED TO BOND PROJECTS. AND SO OTHER THAN ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY FOR BOND, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO THE BOND CURRENTLY, UNLESS WE DECIDED TO TAP INTO ANY OF THE OTHER CURRENT FUNDING.

OKAY. YEP. ANYBODY ELSE ON 1 BEFORE I GO TO 2? DR.

JACKSON, CHANCELLOR LUCK? SURE, I'M GOOD THOUGH. I'M

[2. Update, discussion, and possible action on current Park projects supported by Angleton Better Living Corporation. ]

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SO ONE OF THEM BEING ABIGAIL ARIAS. THAT PROJECT CONTINUES TO MOVE ALONG. THEY'VE DONE THE MAJORITY OF THEIR GRADING WORK, CONTINUING TO WORK ON UTILITY INSTALLATION. THEY ARE GETTING PREPPED FOR THEIR, SOME OF THEIR HARDSCAPE. SO THEY SHOULD BE POURING CONCRETE FOR THE PARKING LOT, HOPEFULLY, IF THE WEATHER COOPERATES, FRIDAY. IS THE CURRENT PLAN.

THEY WERE SLATED FOR OBVIOUSLY TODAY, DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR TODAY, BUT HOPEFUL FOR FRIDAY. UM, AND SO THEY SHOULD BE WORKING ON THAT, WHICH THEN SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY THE PAVILION STRUCTURE, THE PAVILION SLAB AS WELL. SO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. PLAYGROUND AND SPLASH PAD EQUIPMENT IS SLATED TO BE IN-HOUSE BY EARLY TO MID-JULY, AND THEN FOLLOW AS LONG AS THE WEATHER COOPERATES AND THEY CAN GET THE SLAB IN FOR THE PAVILION, THAT SHOULD GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL 3 CONTRACTORS TO BE ON SITE. THE MAIN COMPONENT IS GETTING THE SLAB FOR THE PAVILION DONE FIRST SO THEY CAN START THAT PART. AND WE CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG. THE ONLY MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO RIGHT NOW FOR ABIGAIL IS THE SEWER LINE. AND SO THE SEWER LINE TIE-IN THAT WE HAD, WE HAVE HAD TO EXPLORE REROUTING THAT PROJECT. PART OF THAT COMING INTO THE MANHOLE. WE TRIED TO TIE INTO, AS WELL AS, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT THAT WAS ALONG THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE CHURCH, WHICH WAS NOT LABELED CORRECTLY AND WAS LABELED A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

AND YOU CANNOT PUT A UTILITY ON A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. AND SO, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO NAVIGATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND EXPLORE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT PROPERTY TO ENGAGE TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DEDICATE A UTILITY EASEMENT.

THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE MOST FAVORABLE RESPONSE ON IT JUST YET, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK TO SEE HOW WE CAN MITIGATE THAT.

FINAL OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND GO ALONG OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH WOULD BE A MUCH MORE COSTLY OPTION. BECAUSE IT WOULD GO UNDERNEATH THE DRIVE FOR THE APARTMENTS TO TIE IN.

AND SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE UNDERGROUND WORK VERSUS BLANK SLATE. SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THAT TO NAVIGATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO JUST KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL COST THAT'S GOING TO COME TO MITIGATE THAT PROJECT. SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE MOVING ALONG. THEY'VE ACTUALLY MADE MORE PROGRESS WITH THE CURRENT WEATHER THAT WE'VE HAD TO GET PREPPED FOR A LOT OF THEIR HARDSCAPE.

SO GLAD TO SEE THAT ONE MOVING ALONG, BUT KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE TO COME ON THAT ONE. UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE BY, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. A LOT OF THE BERMING IS ALREADY IN PLACE, AND SO IT REALLY ADDS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ELEMENT.

AS I MENTIONED, THEY'VE ALREADY LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PARKING LOT, AND SO IT'S STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE JUST SLOWLY BUT SURELY AS WE NAVIGATE SOME MINOR HURDLES. SO FREEDOM PARK SIMILAR BOAT MINUS THAT THEY ARE BEING IMPACTED MORE GREATLY ON THE WEATHER. UH, WE DID HAVE A SITE VISIT LAST FRIDAY WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND OUR DESIGN TEAM TO TALK ABOUT CONCERNS AS FAR AS WHAT THE CURRENT FIELD LOOKS LIKE. UH, WE ARE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE BACK FOR THEM, UH, ON ELEVATION OF THE FIELD. SO BERTA IS PUTTING TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO ELEVATE THE ENTIRE FIELD TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I CAN TELL YOU THE CURRENT FIELDS, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT AT GRADE, THE CONCERN IS WHERE DOES THAT WATER GO TO AFTERWARDS. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT COST ASSOCIATED WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE IN THE FUTURE.

AGAIN, EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS LOCAL AS WELL.

WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

THEY HAVE SOME DIRT. AND SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET DIRT FREE AND HAVE IT LOCAL, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY HELP WITH THAT PROJECT. BUT THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS JUST WEATHER. ANYTIME IT RAINS, IT POOLS IN THE AREA THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FINISH GRADING FOR, AND IT JUST HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT OUT. SO THAT ONE'S ACTUALLY BEING IMPACTED GREATER THAN, I WOULD SAY, ABIGAIL AT THIS POINT AS FAR AS TIME-WISE. SO THEY'RE PROBABLY, BASED ON CURRENT WEATHER DELAYS, CLOSE TO A MONTH BEHIND ON THAT PROJECT. SO JASON, YES, SO YOU SAID THAT THE DIRT'S GOING TO BE FREE. THE COST OF MOVING THE DIRT, WILL THERE BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A POTENTIAL COST

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BUT YES, THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO MOVE THAT.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. VERY GOOD. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? UM, GO DO IT.

SAY I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT BURDETT DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

I MEAN, IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS ALL AT GRADE, PRETTY MUCH. THAT LITTLE SWELL DITCH WASN'T GOING TO CUT IT.

AND SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I SEE. I WOULD AGREE. I SEE A FUTURE DRAINAGE PROJECT THERE.

SO THE HOPE IS WE CAN MITIGATE THIS NOW. UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF YOU'RE GONNA, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY CONFIGURED THAT FIRST BY SIDE UH, STANDS AREA. IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE STANDING UNDERWATER IF YOU DON'T, IF WE DON'T START PUSHING WATER AWAY FROM IT AND DRAINING IT AWAY TO THAT SLOUGH OR DITCH OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK I COULD SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE A DITCH IN A PERHAPS A BRIDGE WALK PATH OR SOMETHING EVENTUALLY THAT'S A KIND OF CARRY THAT WATER AWAY. I DON'T KNOW, JUST IT SITS REALLY TIGHT TO THAT, TO THAT DITCH LINE.

IT DOES. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME WORRIED, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT MUCH EVENTUALLY. I MEAN, AS IT BUILDS OUT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY TO TRY TO BUILD THIS OUT. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST PUTTING STANDS ON ONE SIDE, SO I SUGGEST I PROBABLY GO ON THE THIRD BASE SIDE. FIRST BASE SIDE'S A LITTLE TIGHT, SO YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT ON THAT SIDE EVENTUALLY WHENEVER IT DOES DEVELOP? SO THE, AS WELL AS THE FIELDS INCREASING THE FIELD HEIGHTS, UM, OR GRADING, THEY ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SWELL LONG-TERM TO BE ABLE TO HELP MOVE THAT WATER. THAT WAS THE, THE 2 BIGGEST THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ON SITE WAS WHEN I WALKED WITH BURDETT WAS GIVING THEM DIRECTION TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE TO RAISE THE FIELD TO MITIGATE LONG-TERM DRAINAGE ON THE FIELD.

BUT EVEN GOING BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL GRADE, WHICH HASN'T, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS, IT'S THAT WHAT DOES THE STANDING WATER LOOK LIKE OFF THE FIELD? YEAH, I THINK THAT FIRST BASE SIDE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT HAD A LITTLE RAIN, YOU MAY BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY, BUT ANY VISITORS OR WHOEVER'S SITTING ON THAT FIRST BASE SIDE WILL BE SITTING IN A MARSH. YEAH. AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT FURTHER DIGGING OUT SOME OF THAT SWELL AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, BECAUSE OF WHERE THE FIELD IS, THAT'S A LONG TREK TO MAKE, AND SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ONE AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE DRAINAGE AT THE DITCH, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE SOME COORDINATION AS THE CURRENT TRAIL THERE THAT MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP AND REGRADING THAT HAPPENS THERE TO BE ABLE TO DROP THAT INLET BACK IN. SO DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE.

SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MITIGATE. YES. AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE MAIN CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD ON SITE WAS WHAT IS THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM? AND SO RIGHT NOW I'M JUST WAITING ON NUMBERS TO COME BACK AND HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT THAT. NEXT ONE WILL BE FREEDOM PARK PLAYGROUND. HAPPY TO REPORT THIS ONE IS COMPLETE.

THE PLAYGROUND IS UP AND RUNNING. THE ONLY MINOR ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS IF WE COULD GET SOME GOOD WEATHER, WE JUST HAVE TO REMOVE SOME OLD MULCH AND NEW MULCH THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP US. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO ONE OF OUR PARKS THAT NEEDS IT.

AND SO ONCE WE GET GOOD WEATHER, THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO GET OUR EQUIPMENT IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT OUT.

BUT THE PLAYGROUND IS IN. IT'S BEING USED BY STAFF AND BY THE PUBLIC. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT ONE. AND WE'VE HEARD GREAT FEEDBACK THUS FAR ON THAT PROJECT. BATES PARK FIELD 6, THE CONTRACTOR WAS BACK ON SITE THIS WEEK DOING

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BUT OUR TEAM GOT OUT THERE THIS WEEK AND WE'VE COORDINATED WITH AGSA AND WE HAVE STARTED TO PREP THAT FIELD TO GET US READY FOR JULY.

SPOKE WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE DUGOUT ROOFS AND THEY SHOULD BE ON SITE AS LONG AS SOME OF THEIR OTHER PROJECTS ARE ABLE TO FINISH UP, THEY SHOULD BE ON SITE NEXT WEEK. TO, TO GET THOSE ROOFS PUT IN. AND THEY SAID IT SHOULD ONLY TAKE THEM A WEEK AT MOST TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. SO AND THEN OUR STAFF WILL INSTALL THE BENCHES AND THAT PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE. UH, REC CENTER-WISE THE REC CENTER POOL IS BACK OPEN, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. SO EXCITED THAT THAT REOPENED JULY 1ST, OR JULY, JUNE 1ST.

AND SO BEEN SEEING GREAT USAGE THERE. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A COUPLE ADDITIONAL ITEMS IN THE IN THE POOL AREA. WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK AT A LATER DATE AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS 100% READY TO GO, TRYING TO UTILIZE OUR CURRENT OPERATIONAL BUDGET AS WELL AS FULL CAPACITY OF THE BOND STUFF. AND SO MORE TO COME ON THAT ONE.

BUT THERE'S SOME OF, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME PUMP REPLACEMENTS FOR LONGEVITY-WISE. AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE MORE TO THEM THAT, BUT POOL IS OPEN, NOT IMPACTING THAT. WE DID HAVE ONE OF OUR PLAY FEATURE COMPONENTS HAD A MANUFACTURING DEFECT, AND SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO COME IN. THAT SHOULD, SHOULD BE SHIPPING THIS WEEK, SO HOPEFUL TO HAVE THAT IN NEXT WEEK. HAVEN'T HAD ANY REALLY NEGATIVE COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE NOTICE THAT IT'S NOT ON, AND, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A REPLACEMENT ON THAT COMPONENT.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, PEOPLE HAVE LOVED IT THUS FAR.

SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND ONCE WE WRAP UP THOSE, WE'LL START TO MOVE ON TO THE OTHER AREAS OF THE FACILITY. NEXT PRIORITY WOULD BE GOING TO THE GYM. AND SO WE CAN GET A PLAN TOGETHER FOR THAT ONE FOR RIGHT AFTER SUMMER, TO BE ABLE TO GO AND DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE GYM AND CONTINUE TO USE THAT BOND CAPACITY.

YEAH, JASON, I NOTICED THAT, I THINK WE WERE AT THE GYM THE OTHER DAY AND JUST REALIZED HOW BUSY THE GYM IS NOW. I MEAN, THE IT'S LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST UNUSUALLY BUSIER NOW THAN IT WAS EARLIER. I GUESS JUST THE BUZZ AROUND THE NEW POOL FEATURE.

AND EVEN THOUGH, LIKE YOU SAY ABOUT THE GYMNASIUM ITSELF AS OPPOSED TO THE NATATORIUM, IT'S LIKE, IT'S BUSY THERE AS WELL BECAUSE A LOT OF GUYS ARE PLAYING BASKETBALL TOO THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO WE WERE LIKE CURIOUS, LIKE COMING UP FOR JUNE NUMBERS OF THIS YEAR AND JULY NUMBERS OF THIS YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR, COMPARING OUR NUMBERS NOW FOR DAY PASSES. AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR. THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING TAKE, UH, ON JUST THE USAGE OF THE, UH, THE REC CENTER NOW.

ABSOLUTELY. AND TO YOUR POINT WE MENTIONED THIS IN COUNCIL WHEN WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE ONE OF THE POSTS WE PUT OUT THAT WAS THE VIDEO ABOUT THE NEW PLAY FEATURE AND EVERYTHING BEING PUT IN PLAY, UH, THE LAST NUMBERS I RECEIVED, IT WAS JUST SOUTH OF 400,000 VIEWS. AND SO IT JUST TELLS YOU THE FOOT TRAFFIC AND THE INCREASED AWARENESS OF OUR FACILITY. AND I WOULD AGREE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SEEING GREATER USAGE AROUND THE ENTIRE FACILITY.

AND SOME OF IT I THINK I ATTRIBUTE TO THAT WE, BECAUSE THE POOL WAS CLOSED FOR SO LONG, IT FELT VERY QUIET FOR A LONG TIME. AND NOW THAT IT'S OPEN, IT'S, EVERYBODY'S UTILIZING ALL ASPECTS OF AND SO DEFINITELY ENCOURAGED TO SEE WHAT THE JUNE AND JULY NUMBERS LOOK LIKE. SO ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE LIVE QUAD STATIONS BASED OFF HOW IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT LAYOUT AS FAR AS VISIBILITY? SO WE ACTUALLY REDESIGNED HOW THEIR CURRENT FLOW IS BECAUSE THE PLAY STRUCTURE, THEY CAN SEE OVER MORE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PLAY STRUCTURE IS, THEY HAVE TO BE MORE MOBILE.

AND SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A BETTER JOB OF BEING MORE MOBILE. UH, AND IT SEEMS THAT THE, IT'S NOT, UH, THE VISIBILITY ISN'T AS DIFFICULT AS IT WAS BEFORE NOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TREATING IT IN THAT WAY. BUT WE'VE BEEN AT CAPACITY ALMOST MOST DAYS IN THAT FACILITY.

AND SO IT'S STILL QUITE EXTENSIVE. SO I MEAN, BEING THAT PLAY SMALL PLAY FEATURE AREA, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE 50 TO 60 PEOPLE OVER IN THAT SPOT THERE, OR IN THE LAZY RIVER. THAT'S TYPICALLY THE 2 AREAS THAT'S ARE HIGHLY USED. SO HAVE YOU DONE AN, IS THERE AN ARTICLE IN THE FAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YET? UH, NOT ON THE REOPENING.

MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

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SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF CURRENT PROJECTS. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GRANTS, BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE FUNDING FOR CURRENT PROJECTS, THE MAJORITY OF ONES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WHAT THAT FUND BALANCE LOOKS LIKE. SO ABIGAIL BEING THE FIRST ONE, YOU'LL SEE EACH LINE HAS THE BOND ALLOCATION, OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. FOR THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY WAS THE GRANT AND THE ADDITIONAL CITY FUNDING THAT WAS SUPPORTED FOR THAT PROJECT.

ALLOCATION-WISE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, WHEN I SAY ALLOCATED TO DATE, THAT TAKES INTO EVERYTHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE BOOKS FOR THAT PROJECT. SO THAT GOES BACK TO AS EARLY ON AS HAVING THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE TOPO SURVEY, HAVING THE GEOTECH SURVEY DONE, THE CONTRACT FOR BURDETT TO DO THEIR PRO, TO DO DESIGN SERVICE AND MANAGE THE CONTRACT, AS WELL AS DL MEACHAM'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE FULL PROJECT. SO POSITIVE NEWS THERE IS WE ARE UNDER BUDGET ON THAT ONE.

BUT AGAIN, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE A CHANGE ORDER COMING FOR THAT PROJECT. FREEDOM PARK, WE HAD ALLOCATION FOR THE BOND AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S FUNDING.

WE KNEW GOING INTO IT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE OVER ON THIS PROJECT WHEN WE APPROVED IT. IT WAS TO GET THE ADDITIONAL AT ALTERNATES PUT IN THERE. I WILL SAY THE ONE THING THAT TO POINT OUT FOR THIS ONE AS WELL IS IF Y'ALL RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE TURF WAS COVERING THE ENTIRE INFIELD. SO WE DID RECEIVE ONE CHANGE ORDER THAT WE ALREADY ANTICIPATED AND THAT WAS APPROVED TO MAKE THAT. SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER AS WELL. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. IT WAS ABOUT $20,000 TO THAT CHANGE ORDER AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DUGOUTS AND THE TURF. AND SO WITH THE CREDIT FOR THE, THE DIRT WAS APPLIED TO THAT AS WELL. FREEDOM PARK, AS WE KNOW, WE'D SAY THAT ONE'S COMPLETE.

THAT WAS ONE THAT WE DID FINANCING FOR, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGETS.

BUT THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE, IS NOT ALLOCATED INTO THE BALANCE HERE. BATES PARK, A SIMILAR THING. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PREFACE THAT WITH SAYING IF IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE WANT FUNDING TO COME FROM, BUT THIS WOULD INCLUDE FULL COST FOR THE PROJECT. SO YOU'LL SEE WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER ON THIS PROJECT. THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM BOND FUNDING IF WE DON'T WANT IT TO, BUT THE BONDS DO SAY THAT IT IS FOR PARK PROJECTS. AND SO IF WE WANTED TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHETHER IT BE CONTINGENCY OR LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT LINE, WE COULD DO THAT. SO IT HASN'T SPECIFICALLY BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE BOND SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THE TOTAL IS REFLECTED IN HERE. SO THAT $53,000 YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM DOES HAVE THAT NEGATIVE $11,000, BUT WE CAN REALLOCATE IT IF WE NEED TO. WE HAD THE TEXIAN TRAIL DRAINAGE PROJECT.

THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND DID HAVE A SAVINGS OF $58,000.

THE BG PEC SOCCER COMPLEX GRADING, THAT WAS FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES, AND AS WE WENT THROUGH DESIGN AND GOT TO FINAL DESIGN BEFORE WE WENT OUT TO BIDDING. WE REALIZED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE FUND CAPACITY TO MOVE FORWARD, SO WE CANCELED THAT CONTRACT, AND THE REMAINING FUNDS ON THAT ONE WAS ABOUT $39,000.

AND THEN WE HAD BG PEC SOCCER LIGHTING. THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND CAME IN AT THE $176,000. SO THAT SHOULD, BOND FUNDING-WISE, THAT LEAVES US ABOUT A BALANCE OF $53,000, GIVE OR TAKE, IF WE WERE TO REALLOCATE SOME OF THAT BATES PARK FUNDING IN THERE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE. REFRESH MY MEMORY, HOW WAS THE REC CENTER BEING IMPROVED? WHERE WAS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? UH, SO $500,000 WAS FROM BONDS. UM, WHAT BOND? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THIS ONE.

SORRY, YES, SO IT WAS FROM THIS. IT WAS FROM THIS.

THE ONLY REASON I SEPARATED THAT OUT WAS BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA CAME IN FROM THE OTHER PIECES. WE HAD FUND BALANCE, WE HAD ARC FUND BALANCE, AND WE HAD THE GRANT. SO I COULD ADD THAT, INCLUDE THAT IN NEXT TIME, BUT THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO NAVIGATE BECAUSE SO MUCH IS TIED UP INTO THE GRANT WITH THE 50/50. IT'S HARD TO MOVE MONEY OUT OF IT WHEN IT HAS TO HAVE THAT MATCH. AND BECAUSE OF THE GRANT LANGUAGE AND HOW WE SHOWED IT WAS ALLOCATED, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT WITH THOSE WHERE THEIR MONEY WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED FROM. SO ON THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCE,

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YEAH, THAT WAS 5 YEARS FROM, 5 YEARS. YEAH. ON, ON AREAS, ARE WE, ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT I SEE THE PROJECTED, OR THE ORIGINAL TOTAL BUDGET ALLOCATED TO DATE SHOWS A BALANCE. ARE WE EXPECTING TO CONSUME THAT ENTIRE BALANCE AND THEN ACTUALLY EXCEED THAT? ARE WE GONNA, I SURE HOPE NOT. UM, THE THE GOAL WOULD THAT BE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO. UM, BUT BEING THE FIRST CHANGE ORDER THAT WE HAVE WOULD BE THE SEWER LINE. UH, BUT I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE AT THE MOMENT. IS IT THIS ENGAGEMENT YOU'VE HAD WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THESE EASEMENT OWNERS, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET TOO FAR INTO, BUT WHO IS FROM THE CITY IS DIRECTLY COMMUNICATING WITH THESE PEOPLE? UH, I HAVE HAD DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AS WELL AS LOOPY HAS BEEN ON SOME OF THE MEETINGS, UH, AND CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD. I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK OFFLINE YEAH, JUST WANT TO, BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANCE THERE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN AVOID THAT, PRESENTS OPPORTUNITIES TO TOUCH ON OTHER PROJECTS OR CONTINUE THAT PROJECT EVEN. I AGREE. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 2? OKAY,

[3. Discussion and possible action on drainage projects. ]

AND SO IT WAS A DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO EXPLORE FUNDING OPTIONS AND MORE FUNDING OPTIONS, AND ABLC BEING ONE OF THEM. AND I KNOW THAT ABLC HAS FUNDED SOME DRAINAGE PROJECTS IN THE PAST. TEXIAN TRAIL IS ONE OF THE ONES LISTED THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY DONE.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO GET SOME MORE FUNDING THROUGH ABLC TO COMPLETE SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE PROJECTS, NOT JUST TODAY BUT ALSO IN THE FUTURE. BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD IN COUNCIL, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON OTHER PROJECTS BEING COMPLETED.

SO WITH THOSE IN MIND, I WOULD SAY OUR MOST IMPORTANT NEXT TOPIC, OUR NEXT IMPORTANT DRAINAGE PROJECT WOULD BE THE NORTHVIEW DRIVE DRAINAGE PROJECTS. IT CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE FUNDING SOURCE, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S KIND OF TOP OF THE LIST NOW. AND WITH THAT, I MEAN, WE LEAVE IT OPEN TO DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS OR JUST DISCUSSION ON FUNDING THIS PROJECT IN GENERAL THROUGH ABLC. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, PLEASE, HECTOR. OKAY, SO THE NORTHVIEW DRAINAGE PROJECT CAME ABOUT AS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CITIZEN INQUIRIES ABOUT IT, WORK ORDERS PUT IN FOR US ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE. AND BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IT'S A, IT'S AN OLD, IT'S AN OLD STREET THAT WAS DESIGNED WHERE THE STREET IS PART OF THE DRAINAGE, RIGHT? DOESN'T DRAIN OUT FAST ENOUGH, IS DESIGNED TO FILL UP AND SLOWLY METER OUT. BUT WITH THAT, WE CAN HELP MITIGATE AND OFFSET SOME OF THIS BY INSTALLING A, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS POSSIBLY A DRAINAGE PIPE THAT COULD BE INSTALLED WITH AN INLET THAT WOULD RUN BACK TO THAT DITCH. ALSO, THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED BACK THERE AND SOME, AND SOME BETTER GRADING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE BACK BEHIND THOSE HOMES. AND ALSO THE STREET ITSELF IS STARTING TO ESSENTIALLY CAVE IN DUE TO WATER SITTING THERE FOR SO LONG, GETS UNDER THAT PAVEMENT AND INTO THE BASE. AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO ALSO DO A STREET REPAIR AS WELL. BUT THAT FURTHER COMPOUNDS THE ISSUE AS, YOU KNOW, THE WATER IS ALREADY DEEP ENOUGH, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A SINKING PAVEMENT THERE THAT MAKES THE WATER EVEN DEEPER AS THEY PASS THROUGH.

AND PREVIOUS RAIN WE HAD SEVERAL WEEKS AGO THAT WE HAD THE 6 INCHES IN, I THINK IT WAS 4 HOURS. YOU KNOW, THAT STREET WAS PRETTY INUNDATED AND IT WAS IMPASSABLE THROUGH THE BACK PART OF THAT CUL-DE-SAC FOR SEVERAL HOURS FOR MOST VEHICLES. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO COMPLETE THIS AND, AGAIN, INSTALL A DRAINAGE PIPE. IT WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION.

THERE'S GOING TO BE TREE REMOVAL INVOLVED AS WELL, AND THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THIS

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SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS A PIPE INSTALLED SOME YEARS AGO FURTHER NORTH BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY 2 OUTFALLS GOING INTO THAT DITCH BEHIND THERE, AND ONE GOES ONE GOES EAST AND THIS ONE IN QUESTION GOES WEST.

BUT IT JUST WASN'T DONE WITH AN INLET. THERE WAS A PIPE INSTALLED WHICH ACTUALLY HAS SOME ISSUES, JUST HAS A GRATE ON THERE. SO OUR CREWS HAVE TO GO OVER THERE AND CONSTANTLY CLEAN THAT GRATE OUT. BUT HAVING AN INLET THERE IS A MUCH BETTER OPTION FOR THAT. WHAT ABOUT THE MOSA DRAINAGE PROJECT? SO I BELIEVE IT MOSTLY GOT DISCUSSED IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING FOR US TO FUND THIS ONE AS WELL AS THE PROJECT IN THE IN THE ALLEY BEHIND CITY, I'LL CALL IT THE SHENANGO CITY ALLEY, FOR THAT SMALL DRAINAGE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF FUND 02. SO IN TOTAL, IF, IF THIS ONE WAS ACCEPTED, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 3 DRAINAGE PROJECTS WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE. SO MIMOSA AND SHENANGO ALLEY WOULD BE DONE OUT OF FUNDO 2? CORRECT. AND NORTHVIEW, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE OUT OF HERE, OUT OF ABLC? CORRECT. SO, SO NOW HISTORICALLY, I KNOW IT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT US FUNDING THE THE DRAINAGE PORTION THROUGH ABLC FROM YEARS PAST.

AND I THINK OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE SORT OF PRETTY MUCH ACCEPTED THAT WE WOULD DO THAT. YOU MENTIONED THAT WAS ONE THAT WE JUST DID RECENTLY. YES, TEST AND DRILL. SO THAT WAS THE ONE.

AND SO THE RESOURCES FOR THIS, THE ONE THAT'S $61,000, THE OTHER ONE'S LIKE $25,000. SO WE'RE TALKING LIKE, WHAT, $86,000 FOR THIS ONE? SO THE MONEY FOR THAT WOULD COME FROM THE CONTINGENCY LINE. AND OUR CONTINGENCY NOW IS ROUGHLY, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THE CONTINGENCY? IT WAS BUDGETED $295,000, AND NOW IT IS GOING TO BE HALF ON CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES.

YEAH, SO IF YOU WENT BASED ON WHAT IS, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT THAT 3%, CUT IN HALF, SO ABOUT $145,000 TO $148,000.

UM, SO IDEALLY, YES. THE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION, THIS IS YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. THERE IS A FUND BALANCE, SO THERE'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THERE. OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS AT $875,000. IF YOU TAKE THE 25% THAT, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO OR SHOULD BE STAYING AT, IT DOES LEAVE YOU ABOUT $275,000 BECAUSE OUR FULL OPERATING BUDGET FOR ABOC IS ABOUT $2.4 MILLION. AND SO YOU DO HAVE 2 DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES TO CONSIDER. SO EVEN IF YOU DID TAKE IT OUT OF CONTINGENCY LINE OR PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOUR FUND BALANCE HAS THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THAT IN THE EVENT THAT WE SAW A DECREASE IN OUR CURRENT 3%. YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT UP IN YOUR FUND BALANCE. SO EVEN, EVEN THOUGH DROPOUT CONTINGENCY IS $60,000, WE'LL STILL BE FINE WITH, AND THIS WOULD ONLY BE, THE NUMBER HE'S GOT HERE IS $61,226 FOR ROSEVIEW AND, NOT THE ONE CHICKEN, SHENANGO? NO, NO, NO, SHENANGO AND THE MIMOSA WOULD BE DONE FROM THE STREET FUND. FUND 02 IS WHAT SUSIE LIKES TO SAY.

STREET FUND OUT OF THE CITY'S. YEAH, IT'S NOT, NOT RELATED TO THE, OKAY, SO WE'D BE BACK UP TO LIKE $80,000. AND I WILL SAY THAT HECTOR'S ESTIMATES SOMETIMES ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE. YES.

THIS IS GOING TO COST US MORE THAN THAT.

WELL, OH NO, NO, IT'S LESS.

OKAY. OKAY. YOU, OKAY. YOU OVER. I GOT YOU. GOT YOU.

THAT'S A GOOD THING. YEAH.

SO, SO NORTHVIEW, I READ THIS AND IT SAYS, SO YOU'VE GOT AN OPTION 1, OPTION 2, WHICH ONE I'M GUESSING IS MORE, MORE EXPENSIVE. SO OPTION OPTION 1 IS GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE PORTION OF THAT STREET WHEN WE GET DONE INSTALLING THE PIPE. OKAY.

BUT OPTION 2 IS JUST TO USE LIKE A EURO-TECH, WHICH IS JUST A PRODUCT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE EVERYONE'S SEEN PROBABLY LIKE AN AD FOR IT WHERE IT RAISES YOUR SLAB OR YOUR DRIVEWAY. SIMILAR PRODUCT AS THAT. IT'S JUST GOING TO FILL UP THAT VOID AND RAISE THAT STREET TO THAT. I GOT TO SAY HONESTLY, THAT'S NOT MY OPINION ON THAT.

I WOULD DEFINITELY PREFER TO GO TO OPTION 1 JUST TO KNOW WE'VE DUG EVERYTHING OUT.

WHICH PROBABLY WOULD BE A PRICE OF $61,000. YEAH. I BELIEVE IT'S OPTION 1,

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BASE BACK UP BECAUSE I WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN WASHED OUT UNDERNEATH. EXACTLY. WHAT IS IT LEAVING YOU UNDERNEATH THAT ROAD? YES. AND MAYBE JOHN HAS A BETTER EXPERT ENGINEERING OPINION ON THAT.

MAYBE HE RECOMMENDS OPTION 2.

SO MAYBE WE DO THINK ABOUT GOING WITH THAT ROUTE IF JOHN HAS A REALLY STRONGER OPINION ON THAT, YOU KNOW. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. I THINK TEAR IT OUT, PUT IT BACK IN. SO WHAT'S THE COST ON OPTION 2? I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT.

THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, BUT I DO KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE THE LESSER. YES, IT'S GOING TO BE LESSER THAN THAT.

YEAH. THERE'S NO NEED TO LIKE TRY TO SAVE. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE MOSTLY COST EFFECTIVE AND IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER LONGEVITY. YEAH, WE'RE ABOUT LONGEVITY. YEP.

YEAH, BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT THAT WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, URATECH, UNDERNEATH IT, BUT IF WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THAT, WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE URATECH, IS STILL BAD, YEAH, EXACTLY.

WHERE ARE YOU JACKHAMMERING ALL THAT OUT EVENTUALLY AND THEN REPLACING THE WHOLE THING? EXACTLY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO COMPLETELY FIX THE SURFACE, RIGHT? WHATEVER CRACKS OR IMPERFECTIONS YOU HAVE ON THE SURFACE, IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THAT. IT'S JUST GOING TO LEVEL IT OUT. IT'S A BAND-AID. YEP. IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS, THAT ABL-C IS STARTING TO TACKLE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, THE VOTERS DID VOTE FOR INCLUDES DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

SO GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, BETWEEN FUND 02 AND ABL-C, GETTING SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE ISSUES RESOLVED. IT'S NICE TO SEE FOR SURE. UH, ONE THING YOU DON'T HAVE THE SPANISH TRACE ON HERE AS A DRAINAGE PROJECT? AS A DRAINAGE PROJECT, NO. I HAD IT LISTED OUT AS FAR AS SEWER STREET REPLACEMENTS THAT WE WOULD THE POTENTIAL BOND WE'RE DISCUSSING, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE I HAVE IT INCLUDED IN THERE.

AND THOSE I HAVE A SECTION IN THERE FOR 10 PANEL REPLACEMENTS TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE SOME AMOUNT OF THAT BOND TO THAT FOR THOSE, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THERE. I'M JUST LOOKING AT WAYS TO WORK. THINGS CAN BE FUNDED WITHOUT GOING THE BOND ROUTE IF YOU CAN'T. YEAH, AND AGAIN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SPANISH TRACE, I MEAN, PART OF IT IS A ROAD PROJECT. YES, THE ROAD HAS STARTED TO CONCAVE, BUT THE REASON WHY IT'S CONCAVING IS DRAINAGE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THAT FROM EITHER SIDE OF THAT COIN. YES. AND THAT'S, WHAT WAS THAT ESTIMATE ON THAT ONE? UH, $154,000, I BELIEVE. THAT. YEAH, OKAY.

WELL, BOARD, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? BECAUSE THE AGENDA DOES SAY POSSIBLE ACTION IF YOU WANT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE TO COMPLETE THE NORTHVIEW DRAINAGE DRIVE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT WITH A BUDGET OF $61,226.

GUESS TO COME OUT OF THE BLANKING OUT ALL OF A SUDDEN. ABL-C FUND.

WHAT'S THAT? CONTINGENCY.

CONTINGENCY. ABL-C CONTINGENCY FUND. THANK YOU. SECOND THAT.

OKAY, WE NEED, WE'RE TAKING MOTIONS. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

LET'S GO FIX THEM. ITEM NUMBER

[4. Discussion on updated preliminary budget for Parks, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2026 2027. ]

THANK YOU. OKAY

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EXAMPLE I WOULD GIVE IS FITNESS EQUIPMENT. WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THOSE NUMBERS BUT KEEP OUR BOTTOM LINE THE SAME. SO NO MAJOR CHANGES FROM THE LAST TIME THAT YOU SAW THE PROJECT OR SAW THE BUDGETS. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE Y'ALL AGAIN TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, TO GIVE Y'ALL AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE BUDGET PROCESS LOOKS LIKE FROM HERE. THIS WE'LL TAKE THIS, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FINANCE TO FINE-TUNE THINGS AS FAR AS THE PERSONNEL SIDE AND GET THIS READY FOR SUBMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL. OUR BUDGETS ARE DUE TO CITY COUNCIL BY JULY 1ST.

OUR DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY WILL HAVE A BUDGET MEETING ON SATURDAY, JULY 11TH, WHERE WE'LL REVIEW THE BUDGET WITH CITY COUNCIL, LOOKING FOR THEIR COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, RECOMMENDATIONS, OR QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE SPECIFICALLY ON OUR BUDGETS.

BUT BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUDGET COMES OUT OF ABLC, WE START HERE FIRST.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I DID PASS OUT 2 DIFFERENT ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL. ONE OF THEM OUTLINES WHAT OUR CIP PLAN WAS. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN UPDATED FOR CURRENT PROJECTS.

SO EXAMPLE BEING '25-'26, WE DID ALLOCATE QUITE A BIT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT VARIOUS PROJECTS, WHETHER IT BE PARKS OR THE REC CENTER, THE FIELD EXPANSION.

SO THAT NUMBER, THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THERE AS WELL, THE ONES WE HAVE SLATED FOR NEXT YEAR, KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF THESE, IF DEPENDING ON PROJECTS, DON'T MAKE IT. SO LIKE THE ARC ONE, YES, IT WAS LAST YEAR THIS YEAR, BUT WE MAY MOVE SOME OF THAT TO SHOW FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED FROM THE EVALUATE THE BONDS NEXT YEAR. BUT LOOKING AT FY26-27, WE CONTINUE TO REQUEST FUNDING TO SUPPORT OUR ADA TRANSITION PLAN. THAT WAS A PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021, HAD VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS ALLOCATED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED DIRECT FUNDING TO SUPPORT THOSE. WE HAVE TRIED TO DO AS MANY PROJECTS IN-HOUSE, SO WHETHER IT BE A SIDEWALK EXTENSION, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, SOME OF THESE HAVE TO CORRELATE WITH OUR SIDEWALK CONNECTION BETWEEN STREETS, OUR CONNECT, CONNECTIVITY AT DIFFERENT PARKS. SO WE CONTINUE TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS IN HERE FOR CONSIDERATION.

YOU'LL SEE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT OUR PARKS BOARD HAS BEEN KEEN ON AS WELL, OF LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THAT. SO THAT IS THE FIRST ONE. THE SKATE PARK IS STILL ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO WITH THAT. I DID PUT NUMBERS IN HERE. WE HAVE A THOUGHT TO INCLUDE THIS IN OUR PHASE 2 ABIGAIL ARIES PARK PROJECT, AND SO WE STILL HAVE THAT AS A FOCUS, JUST HAVEN'T NARROWED IN ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE SIZE AND SCOPE JUST YET. ALSO LOOKING TO CHANGE OUT ANOTHER ONE OF OUR MOWERS AS WE CONTINUE TO PUT MILEAGE ON THOSE, SO WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MOWER IN HERE FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL. AND THEN THE FUND BALANCE ONE, APOLOGIZE, YOU CAN'T SEE IT IN HERE THAT IS ACTUALLY IN BLACK. SO THE FIRST 3 ARE IN RED, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY NON-FUNDED ITEMS. UH, THE ONE IN BLACK, THE FUND BALANCE ONE, IS JUST ALLOCATING, SAYING THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MONEY THAT CAN BE DEDICATED TO ONGOING, UH REC CENTER PROJECTS.

SO THE $100,000 IS ALREADY FUNDED BECAUSE THAT IS A FUND BALANCE RELATED ITEM. UM, SO WE JUST PUT THAT ONE IN THERE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE'S A FUND BALANCE THAT COULD BE USED FOR OPERATIONAL PROJECTS IF NEEDED.

SO THE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE THERE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS AS FAR AS THE SUPPORT FOR PROJECTS GOES. SO AGAIN, CIP-RELATED ITEMS ARE ONES THAT ARE MORE

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HOWEVER, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH OUR BUDGET CUTS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE ELIMINATED.

SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO REQUEST THAT. SAME SIMILAR THING FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS THROUGH BUDGET CUTS. OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION WAS CUT, AND WE HAVE 2 PARKS POSITIONS THAT WERE CUT AS WELL, KEEPING IN MIND THAT OUR DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO EXPAND OUR FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WE MANAGE AND OVERSEE.

SO 2023, LAKESIDE PARK CAME ON, MOST RECENTLY BEING ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK. WHEN THAT IS IN FULL OPERATION NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE MAINTENANCE, MORE TIME OUT THERE. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL RESTROOM THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE CLEANED. IT IS NO LONGER JUST AN UNDEVELOPED PARK, IT IS NOW GOING TO BE A DEVELOPED PARK.

ADDITION OF FREEDOM PARK FIELD, ADDITION OF BATES PARK FIELDS.

WE ALSO ACQUIRED THE LAND AROUND BATES PARK, AROUND KATZ ACADEMY, THAT IS NOW CITY PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY AROUND THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

WE DID ACQUIRE PARCELS THERE, AND SO THAT TREE LINE IS OURS TO MAINTAIN AS WELL. WELL.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO REQUEST THAT. UH, JANITORIAL, I DID PUT THIS ON THERE. UH, COUNCIL DID GIVE A DIRECTIVE TO GO BACK TO REBID THIS, BUT I WANT TO JUST KEEP THIS UH AT THE FOREFRONT THAT, THAT IN THE EVENT THAT WE GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY DIDN'T MAKE A DETERMINATION TO GO IN-HOUSE, ABLC HAD CONSIDERATION FOR HELPING TO FUND THOSE THE JANITORIAL SERVICES AT THAT 30%. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HARD NUMBER THAT KIND OF CAME WITH THAT. AND SO THAT $49,000 WOULD BE WHAT THE SUPPORT WOULD COME FROM ABOC, AS WELL AS SOME CAPITAL PROJECT ITEMS. SO WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE WOULD NEED.

SO ONE OF THE ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A SKID STEER OR A TRACK LOADER.

VARY IN PRICE. WE'VE GOTTEN AS GOOD AS $72,000, AS HIGH AS $87,000. AND THEN THE 3 SUBSEQUENT ITEMS AFTER THAT WOULD BE ATTACHMENTS THAT WOULD GO WITH THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD HELP MAKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY WOULD DO A LITTLE BIT EASIER. AND THEN THE LAST ONE BEING A TRAILER TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER OPERATIONS FOR OUR TEAM AS THEY'RE NAVIGATING THE FIELDS AND COMPLETING THEIR JOB TASKS. UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SPECIFIC BUDGET THAT WE HAVE IN HERE. UH, THE, I WILL POINT OUT, AS FAR AS ABLC'S PORTION THOUGH THE LAST TIME WE TALKED, WE KEPT THE BUDGET FLAT. UH, TALKING WITH FINANCE THEY ARE LOOKING AT A 3 PROJECTING A 3% INCREASE. IF WE WENT IN LINE WITH THAT, IT WOULD ADD ABOUT $72,000 TO THE BUDGET. UM, SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL THAT WE COULD SEE IF WE WENT WITH A 3% INCREASE VERSUS WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN YOUR PACKET OF A REMAINING FLAT FROM WHAT THIS CURRENT YEAR IS.

IS THAT THE SAME PERCENTAGE, UH, BACK OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL? 30% OR 23%? NO, HOW MUCH ARE YOU SENDING OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND? 30%. 30%.

YEP, 30% TO THE GENERAL FUND.

YEP. UM, AND SO SAYING THOSE, UM, THE CONTINGENCY IS IN A BETTER PLACE NEXT YEAR, AND SO FOR CURRENTLY PROJECTED CONTINGENCY OF ABOUT $360,000.

IF WE WENT WITH THAT 3% SALES TAX INCREASE, YOU'D BE UPWARDS OF $425,000. SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A FAIRLY REASONABLE CONTINGENCY. WHY? WHAT ONE-TIME COSTS ARE NOT INCURRED? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? AS FAR AS WHY WOULD THE CONTINGENCY GO UP JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU'RE STILL OUT MOVING 30% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OVER.

YES. WELL, SO THE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2.4 THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. WE ORIGINALLY PROJECTED THAT TO STAY AT THAT 2.4. IF WE GO UP THAT 3%, IT ADDS ABOUT $72,000 ON TOP OF THAT. THE REASON WHY I'M KIND OF PUZZLED IS WE WERE EXPECTING 6% THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE DOWN TO 3%. SO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD BUDGETED IS GOING TO BE CUT IN HALF.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 3%, WE'D ACTUALLY BE AT THE 6%. SO I'M SAYING THERE MUST BE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, SO THIS WAS BASED ON WHAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR'S NUMBER.

SO THE $2.4, IT WOULD BE 3% ON TOP OF THE $2.4. NOW IF WE GO BACK AND IF WE LOOK AT IT AND DO, NOW WE'RE CONNECTING. YES. SO IF WE GO BACK WE COULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO STAY AT THE $2.4.

BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT A 3%

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IN THE EVENT THAT THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THAT WOULD INCREASE THESE NUMBERS.

UM, SO YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THAT COME DOWN, BUT IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THEM GREATLY.

YOU'D PROBABLY MORE SEE ALIGNED WITH THE CONTINGENCY WE HAD LAST YEAR. UM POINTING THOSE ONES OUT REALLY SOME OF THE BIG CHANGES I WILL SAY, WE DO HAVE A DECREASE IN OUR DEBT SERVICE. UH, WE DO MAKE UP A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THOUGH BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE PLAYGROUND THAT'S ON THERE.

UM, SO IT'S NOT AS GREAT. SO, BUT THAT'S SOME OF WHERE OUR SAVINGS WAS. UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE BY REMAINING FLAT AS FAR AS SOME OF OUR NUMBERS WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT LESS OF A REQUEST FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER. SO THEIR REQUEST OF ABOUT $20,000 LESS FROM ABLC BECAUSE WE PROJECT OUR REVENUE TO CONTINUE TO DO WELL. THE REC DIVISION WOULD REMAIN ON POINT FOR WHERE THEIRS AT, BUT THEY, I WILL SAY THEY HAD SOME, LOOKED AT SOME ADDITIONAL COST MEASURES THAT WENT WITH OPERATIONS AND OFFSETTED THAT WITH REVENUE SO THEIR NUMBERS STAY THE SAME AS WELL. SO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR FEEDBACK AS WE GET READY TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL. I WAS GOING TO SAY, ON THE CAPITAL EXPENSE LINE, WE COULD PROBABLY FUND THE SKID STEER, THE GRAPPLE, THE BRUSH CUTTER, AND THE TRAILER ALL NEXT YEAR.

AND THE WAY WE COULD DO IT IS GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING, THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING.

OKAY, THE CAPITAL EXPENSE LINE, LOOKING AT FINANCING IT THROUGH GOVERNMENT CAPITAL, EVERYTHING BUT THE MULCHER, AND THEN BUY THE TRAILER OUTRIGHT.

AND IN THE FIRST, AND SO THE FIRST 3? YEAH.

OKAY, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. AND THAT'S LIKE $37,000 ANNUAL AND COST ADDITIONAL, AND THAT GIVES US THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THESE PARKS. JUST SO THE BOARD KNOWS, IS WHENEVER WE WERE DOING THE DEMO ON THE PLAYGROUND AT FREEDOM, WE RENTED A SKID STEER AND FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GUYS AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THEY COULD BE DOING THAT WOULD USE THAT, AND PUBLIC WORKS COULD USE THAT SAME PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AS WELL. SO IT ONLY, IT NOT ONLY FUNDS ONE PIECE, IT FUNDS THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL. AND THEY NEED THE TRAILER, THEY SAID, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SKID STEER, YOU GOT TO GET THE GRAPPLE AND THE BRUSH CUTTER TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB. UM, THAT WAS JUST FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE STAFF THAT DAY, AND I DON'T BESIDES US INVESTING IN MOWERS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF WE'VE INVESTED ANY NEW EQUIPMENT FOR PARKS.

UM, SO JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ON MY HOT LIST TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, IT'S NICE TO BUILD THE PARKS AND HAVE ALL THE STUFF, BUT WE DON'T EVER BUY ANY EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS. YEP.

JOHN, CLARIFYING ON THAT ONE, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS WOULD BE INITIATE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO PROLONG THE PAYMENT FOR THE, OKAY, YEP, YEP. AND EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT IN THIS CYCLE TO PAY FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU COULD STILL DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY THE MINIMAL $37,000 AND YOU'RE ESTIMATING A 3% INCREASE, AND SO YOU STILL HAVE ROOM LEFT OVER AND I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT PERSONNEL. I MEAN, WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT SMALL NUMBERS LIKE $50,000 TO DO A DRAINAGE PROJECT OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, A SHADE STRUCTURE WE TALKED ABOUT? $35,000? $30,000 TO $35,000.

ONE FIELD, I MEAN, ABOUT $30,000, $30,000 TO $35,000.

YEAH, RIGHT HERE IT'S CONSIDERABLY BUDGET MORE, BUT THEY HAVE A, BUT IF YOU ADD A PARK CREW MEMBER, THAT'S $54,000. SO IT'S A TRADE-OFF.

YOU EITHER HIRE SOMEBODY OR YOU GET A PROJECT, YOU GET SOMETHING DONE. UM, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF WE WERE TO SAY, YEAH, GO GET ANOTHER PARK CREW MEMBER TO HELP YOU WITH AN INCREASED VOLUME

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AND SO MAINTENANCE OF OUR LANDSCAPING AROUND TOWN HAS TURNED INTO, INSTEAD OF PREVENTATIVE MORE REACTIVE. UM, WE DO A LOT MORE WEED TREATMENTS, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY DO A WHOLE LOT OF CURB APPEAL. UM, AND WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING THEM THE WAY THAT WE USED TO. AND THEY ALSO SUPPORTED PARK TRASH CLEANUP. UM, AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS PROLONGED OUR STAFF'S TURNAROUND SCHEDULE OR OUR MOWING SCHEDULE IS THEY, OUR PARK STAFF NOW HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO GO OUT AND DO THAT PARK CLEANUP, WHEREAS WE HAD THAT DEDICATED PERSON TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT, ON TOP OF ABIGAIL BEING ADDED IN, ADDS A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL OF A PARK THAT NEEDS THE MAINTENANCE THAT GOES WITH IT. YOU KNOW, MOWING WITH A TRACTOR WAS EASY, AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAVILION AROUND THE SPLASH PAD, THE BEAUTIF, THE GARDEN THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. UM, AND SO IT JUST, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL FOR THEM. SO IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, YOU'D PICK THE BEAUTIFICATION? UH, YEAH, IF I HAD TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONE. AND THEY, I MEAN, THEY, OUR TEAM SUPPORTS EVERYBODY.

UM, WE WOULD SEE HOW THAT ONE WORKED OUT AND HOW THEY COULD TO TIE INTO. AND I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S SIMILAR FOR OURS, IS THERE'S MOWING SEASON'S NOT YEAR-ROUND, IF YOU WILL. AND SO WE COULD MOVE THEM AROUND AS NEEDED. SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT HELPED TO OFFSET THAT PARK CLEANUP COMPONENTS AND MAKE SURE OUR BEAUTIFICATION PIECES COMES BACK TO UP TO PAR WHERE WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE. WITH THAT, ALL I'LL SAY, NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, JUST, UH, ADDING STAFF IS A CONTINUAL COST TO THE BUDGET CYCLE. I NEVER SAID YES. I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT THE TRADE-OFF OF PROJECTS. THE TRADE-OFF IS YOU GET A PROJECT DONE AND IT ROLLS OFF, IN THEORY.

CORRECT. AN EMPLOYEE STAYS ON.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO, BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING IT IS THE BALANCE. I'M NOT SAYING YOU ADD PARKS AND YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. SO I WAS ALSO GOING TO SUGGEST, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT KAB WOULD BE ABLE TO SOMEHOW FIND SOME MONEY FOR? UM, POSSIBLY PARTNERSHIP OR SOMETHING. I WOULD SAY THAT, AND WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AS WELL, THE COST OF THEIR CLEANUPS IS GETTING PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. AND SO I'VE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OF EXPLORING A ONE-TIME-A-YEAR WHICH WOULD FREE UP SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, SO PROBABLY NOT THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOME. THEY ARE ALSO SUPPORTING SOME OF THE CURRENT PARK AMENITIES AS IT IS. SO LIKE IF OUR ANTIQUE STREETLIGHTS GO DOWN, THAT WAS NOW TRANSFERRED OVER TO KAB. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE AND UTILIZE THEM AS WE CAN AS WELL. BUT THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION IS IF WE DIDN'T DO THE 2 CLEANUPS A YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE CREEPING UP TOWARDS $15,000 IN CLEANUP RIGHT NOW.

AND THE MORE WE GROW AND THE MORE IT IS UTILIZED, THAT ONLY MORE IT'S GOING TO GROW AND THE MORE COSTLY IT'S GOING TO BECOME. SO THIS IS, I'LL, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU OFFLINE. SO ALL THESE POSITIONS ARE FULL-TIME SALARY, SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE DO FOR THE CITY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH PART-TIME? I MEAN, WE, IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN AT THE REC CENTER.

UM, I MEAN, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, BUT SO THESE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WERE ONES WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, SO THEY WERE FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT JUST WEREN'T BROUGHT BACK. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY YOU COULD OUTSOURCE CONTRACT LABOR? WE COULD. UM, WOULD THAT BE ANY COST SAVINGS? I MEAN, YOU COULD SURELY GET A COST SAVINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

LIKE. UM, AND SO LIKE IF YOU WENT THE BEAUTIFICATION ROUTE AND ONLY DID BEAUTIFICATION, YOU WOULD HAVE A COST SAVING THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT YOU WOULD LOSE THAT PERSON TO SUPPORT OTHER OPERATIONS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE, YEAH, BUT IT FREES YOU UP, RIGHT? IF YOU CONTRACT OUT A PARTICULAR PART, THAT PERSON, THAT RESPONSIBILITY NO LONGER IS COVERED BY, AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE HELPING OUT.

YEAH, SO NOW THAT, THAT IT WOULD FREE UP IN SOME CAPACITY, YES. RIGHT. I WOULD SAY BEAUTIFICATION-WISE, WE ARE MORE DOING THAT ON AN EXTREMELY LIMITED BASIS. I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED. I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT, IF YOU POSTED IT, RFQ, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD COME OUT TO. OKAY. WE CAN GET PRELIMINARY NUMBERS ON IT.

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UM, BUT IF WE CAN GET WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND MAYBE DO IT FOR HALF WHAT YOU'RE, BUT I GUESS IF YOU OUTSOURCE OR FARM IT OUT, DO YOU STILL WANT TO GO WITH SOMEONE THAT'S FAIRLY LOCAL SO THAT WAY YOU CAN KEEP THE TAX? OH, I'M ALL ABOUT THAT. SURE. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, WE, WE COULD, BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, RFQ, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT, WHATEVER STANDARDS YOU WANT TO PUT IN THERE. UM, IT'S GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR DOING THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS, YEAH, BUILDUP COSTS. YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR COST OF FUEL AND WHATEVER THE, BUT THAT WOULD BE, WE STILL WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR OWN. I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF OUR, I THINK OUTSOURCING WOULD BE AN INTERESTING TAKE.

I'M JUST, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A PROJECT THAT ON PEAK SEASON, MAYBE WEEKLY, MAYBE BIWEEKLY, YOU KNOW, TWICE A MONTH. I THINK IN THE OFFSEASON, I MEAN, I THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME TIMES THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE A SPRING CUT DOWN WHERE YOU JUST KIND OF CLEAR THE BRUSH AND LET THEN THE NEW GROWTH COME ALONG, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU DO THAT, YOU KNOW. BUT COME OCTOBER, OR MAYBE NOT OCTOBER BECAUSE IT'S STILL PRETTY HOT HERE IN OCTOBER, BUT, YOU KNOW, MID-NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, YOU DON'T NEED THE MAINTENANCE. FEBRUARY, OR MAYBE IT'S JUST DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST THE WAY, WE CAN PUT A COUPLE OPTIONS TOGETHER. SO, OKAY. HOW ABOUT HOW LONG DOES AN EMPLOYEE WORK? HOW MANY YEARS? 30? LIKE, HOW LONG DO THEY STAY WITH US? BECAUSE KEVIN'S GOT 19 YEARS KEITH 14. ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT RETIRING OR 19 YEARS, NOT VERY LONG, BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE GUYS WILL EVER RETIRE. SOME PEOPLE RETIRE WHEN THEY'RE 50, YOU KNOW, 40, 45. LIKE JOHN, HE'S PROBABLY ALREADY RETIRED.

KEVIN IS ONE THAT'S BEEN HERE, UH, HE HAS THE BIGGEST LONGEVITY AND HE'S BEEN HERE, I MEAN, THROUGH A NUMBER OF SEASONS, IF YOU WILL. UH, KEITH SIMILAR THING, BUT A LOT OF THEM HAVE COME FROM PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT, AND THIS IS THIS IS RETIREMENT FOR THEM, HONESTLY. LIKE, THERE, THERE, THERE IS ONE DAY, AND I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO BE MORE FORCED OUT. UH, ONE OF THEM, ONE OF OUR BEAUTIFICATION PERSON WAS SIMILAR TO THAT. HE HAD QUITE A FEW YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN, IN, AND HE HAD, LIFE WAS CALLING INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION FOR HIM. AND SO HE WAS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GO, BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE TIME. I WAS LIKE, WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU WERE LOOKING AT MAYBE BEING PROACTIVE IN HIRING SOMEBODY IN CASE SOMEBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT IT? THEY HAVE, NONE OF THEM HAVE INDICATED AT THIS TIME THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR RETIREMENT. I'M JUST SURPRISED.

NO, I MEAN, I JUST KNOW THERE'S OTHER EXPENSES. I MEAN, $54,000 INCLUDES ALL BENEFITS, INSURANCE. UH, THEIR STARTING PAY IS JUST OVER $17 AN HOUR.

YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY FAIR. YEAH, SHE'S STARTING.

OKAY. YEP. OKAY. IT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE STAYING. TURNOVER IS BAD, SO IT'S GOOD TO, I'M GONNA RETIRE AND COME WORK FOR YOU. I LIKE BEING OUTSIDE. MAYBE I PUT A BID IN. YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET PAID FOR ALL HIS HARD LABOR. NO, HIS IS THE, HE USED TO PICK AND CHOOSE HIS SCHEDULE. IT MAKES IT SUPER EASY. PUT A BID IN, IT WORKS ON HIS SCHEDULE. SO I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

YES. YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE 30/70, I KNOW THAT GOES WAY BACK, BUT THE 30/70, SO THAT $49,000, THAT IS OUR 30% THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR? YES, THAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, FROM WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.

THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON. YES.

SO REALLY THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS LIKE $160,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEN, BASICALLY.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, IF YOU WILL, AND I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN THE BEST I CAN.

UM, SO THERE IS A CURRENT ALLOCATED AMOUNT FROM ARC THAT IS ALREADY THERE, UH, AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL THAT GOES INTO THAT. SO WE TRIED TO FACTOR ALL THAT. RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE JANITORIAL WORK IS, IS A SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR THE CITY. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS, WHICH HAS THE MOST BENEFIT FOR THE CITY. UH, AND SO WE ARE COUNCIL CURRENT DIRECTIVE IS TO GO BACK OUT TO BID TO INCLUDE ALL CITY FACILITIES TO SEE WHAT THAT CONTRACT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT FULL DETERMINATION.

UH, THE OTHER PROPOSAL WE PUT TOGETHER WAS THE IN-HOUSE OPTION, AND SO THAT OPTION WOULD INCLUDE 4 INDIVIDUALS. UH, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A PARKS INDIVIDUAL ALREADY ON STAFF.

UH, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A CLEANING COMPANY FOR THE REC CENTER AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OTHER CONTRACT, REALLY. SO 2 OF THEM ARE ALREADY REALLY ACCOUNTED FOR.

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WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT WAS ALREADY BEING ALLOCATED FOR AND THEN WHAT WE BE AN ADDITIONAL 2. IT'S A UNIQUE ONE, AS LONG AS IT WORKS, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE, IN THAT THEORY, THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT $24,000 FOR THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL. CAN WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS? YES. I REALLY DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ALLOCATE ANY MORE MONEY RIGHT NOW TO THE REC CENTER RENOVATIONS UNTIL YOU GET THROUGH THE BIG SWATH OF, YEAH, THE TOP, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DID IN '24-'25. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY 3 TO 4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE MONEY. AND REALLY SOME OF THAT IS LIKE, THAT'S JUST AGAIN IT'S JUST SHOWING THAT THERE'S A FUND BALANCE THAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE USED. UM, AND SO THERE'S NO INTENT TO USE THAT AT THIS TIME. UH, THAT'S REALLY MORE SO KNOWING WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE IN THE EVENT OUR OPERATING COSTS, EXAMPLE WOULD BE LIKE AC REPAIRS, OR WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A WATER LINE REPAIR, PIPE REPAIR THAT WE HAVE TO FIX OR MITIGATE, WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TO KIND OF COVID IN THERE. SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED TO THAT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD HERE. WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE YOUR BIGGEST PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WANT TO TACKLE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE HAVE TO START. AS YOU SEE, THERE'S ALSO, I GUESS, PARKS BOARD.

YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA, WE CAN KIND OF TIE THEM TOGETHER. OKAY,

[5. Discussion and possible action of Parks & Recreation Board Priority Projects for ABLC funding consideration.]

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO THIS AGENDA ITEM HELPS TO ALIGN PARKS BOARD WITH ABLC. UH, IF YOU RECALL A FEW YEARS AGO, WE REDEFINED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIORITIES OF WHAT THE ABLC WAS AND WHAT PARKS BOARD ALIGNED WELL. AND SO ONE OF THOSE DEFINED PROJECTS IS THAT A PARKS BOARD WOULD GO THROUGH AND PRIORITIZE A PROJECT LIST OF THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PRIORITIES. SO THIS YEAR, WE IMPLEMENTED A NEW PARK ASSESSMENT. SO WE WENT THROUGH AND REVIEWED ALL OUR PARKS TO SEE THE CURRENT CONDITION, LOOK AT THINGS THAT HAD PRIORITY NEEDS OR MAY NEED UPDATING, OR WHAT IS THEIR CURRENT CONDITION TO THINK ABOUT FOR FUTURE FUNDING. THIS LIST WAS COMPILED BY THE PARKS BOARD THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER. I DO HAVE THE BOARD CHAIR HERE, DAVID. HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SPEARHEADING THIS TO GET THE BOARD INPUTS. THEY WENT THROUGH AND RANKED THESE.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WERE ON THERE, BUT THEY PROVIDED A TOP 10 LIST, IF YOU WILL, OF THINGS THAT THEY FELT WERE IMPORTANT THAT THEY WANTED TO BRING FORTH FOR CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING, AS WELL AS THINGS TO HELP PRIORITIZE FOR OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE THE FUNDING DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR TEAM WON'T GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THESE. SO KNOWING THAT PARKS BOARD IS SUPPORTING OUR OPERATIONS AND REALLY SPEAKING FOR THE COMMUNITY WE WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND OF WHAT THEY CAME WITH, CAME UP WITH FOR THEIR TOP 10 AND LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS OF HOW WE COULD LOOK AT FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS OR IF THESE ARE A PRIORITY OR COULD BE A PRIORITY FOR ABLC.

SO YOU'LL SEE THERE IN YOUR PACKETS, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH FULL COSTS ON THEM AS YOU CAN READ THOSE, BUT IN THE ORDER THAT THEY HAD GO THROUGH WAS RESTRIPING OF PARKING LOTS AT A NUMBER OF OUR PARKS. SO WE PROVIDED A COST BREAKDOWN THERE.

PLAYGROUND AND PAVILION REPLACEMENT AT BATES PARK, COVERED SEATING AT BATES PARK, REPLACEMENT OF THE WOODEN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ON HENDERSON ROAD, SHADE STRUCTURES NEAR THE PLAYGROUNDS AT LAKESIDE AND B.G. PECK, ADDITIONAL PARKING AT BATES PARK, DOG PLAY ELEMENTS AND SHADE COVER AT THE OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK, UPGRADING THE EXISTING PAVILION AT MASTERSON PARK. A LARGE RENTAL PAVILION AT FREEDOM PARK, BRIDGE AND TRAILS DEVELOPMENT TO THE PASSIVE AREA AT FREEDOM PARK. JUST NOTES ON THAT ONE, THAT WAS A PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WE HAD THAT WE DID DESIGN FOR, AND SO THAT MADE IT ON THE LIST OF TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME PORTION OF THAT PROJECT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT SNUCK IN THERE IS THE,

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BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

FIRST, CAN WE GET THIS TOP 10 ADDED TO THIS? GO AHEAD, TRAVIS. UM, I KNOW WE HAD PREVIOUSLY IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, MAYBE IT WAS OUR LAST MEETING, TALKED ABOUT REPLACING OR ADDING COVERED SEATING AT BATES PARK SOFTBALL FIELDS.

UM, I THINK YOU EVEN BROUGHT US A CANTILEVER DESIGN THAT WE WERE KIND OF INTERESTED IN.

YEP. YEAH. UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, IN THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY FIELDS AND 4. UH, 1 AND 2 HAVE COVERED? YES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CONDITION ARE. UH, THEY'RE, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE MANAGEABLE.

YEAH. OKAY, SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED IN OVER TIME TO WHERE THEY HAVE MATCHING, YOU KNOW, CANTILEVER DESIGN SO THAT'S KIND OF UNIFORM.

BUT I WOULD START AT LEAST 3 AND 4. AND 6 AND 5 6 IS JUST BEING BUILT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU WOULD NEED A SHADE COVER ON THE THIRD BASE WEST SIDE BECAUSE OF THE TREES. TREES, YEAH.

BUT AND AS FAR AS 5, PROBABLY USE IT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO NEED SOME CONCRETE WORK AROUND THE, THE, THE THIS WHERE THE CURRENT STANDS ARE TO, I THINK, HOLD ALL THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY PIECEMEALED, THAT PARTICULAR FIELD. UM, ANYWAY, SO I THINK 3 AND 4 WOULD BE A GOOD START. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT PUTS US IN THE BUDGET. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE STRIPING IS CERTAINLY DOABLE. I DON'T KNOW SEEMS LIKE THE BUDGET WOULD FIT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE ORGANIZATIONS THERE. YOU LOOK AT BG PACK PARK, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE SOCCER CLUB AND SEE IF THEY CAN ALMOST DO LIKE A MATCHING INVESTMENT? I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A GRANT, BUT, YOU KNOW THAT WOODEN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE, HAVEN'T WE? IT WAS ALL, IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND ALL THAT, AND WE KIND OF, ON HENDERSON ROAD, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AT FREEDOM? OUT ON 10. YEAH, NUMBER 4. NOW, I AGREE, AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO, NUMBER 4, THAT'S HENDERSON, AND THE SOFTBALL, AND THE COVID IN THE SEATS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BOTH OF THEM FOR, OKAY, THEY SEEM LIKE THE COVERING OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD SEATS THAT SEEMED LIKE A PRIORITY. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN NEEDED. WELL, WE HAD THE COVERING AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE AND PROBABLY HAD IT FOR 4 YEARS, 3 TO 4 TO 5 YEARS NOW. 5 YEARS, I THINK. SO, SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD CATCH UP ON THE SOFTBALL SIDE. WELL, AND THEN WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT HAVING A CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WAS IT LIKE A NATIONAL LEVEL SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT? YES, NEXT MONTH.

SO YEAH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

WELL, WE WON'T HAVE IT FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT I'M IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT IF, IF HOPEFULLY WE IT GOES WELL, WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME, AND THEN WE'VE MADE UPGRADES.

SO HEY, WE PUT THE BID IN AGAIN, WE'RE EVEN BETTER, WE HAVE COVER NOW, YOU KNOW.

SOME SHADE. I KNOW IT'S STILL HOT IN JULY IN ANGLETON, BUT WHATEVER YOU CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, ADD TO IT. UM, I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF 10. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO OPEN UP THAT BRIDGE, THE PASSIVE AREA OF FREEDOM PARK. I SEE IT'S A PRETTY HEFTY PRICE TAG. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BOND THAT MONEY OUT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS MUCH HIGHER. I THOUGHT IT WAS AROUND A MILLION. SO THIS IS, UH, WAS PROJECTING TO GET THE BRIDGE AND BE STRATEGIC ON WHAT WE DID FOR A TRAIL. SO A MILLION WOULD BE CLOSER TO IF WE DID THE BRIDGE, THE WEIR CROSSING. THAT'S THE, YEAH, YEAH. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE WEIR. I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT.

IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME ALWAYS SEEMED IN THE SKY TYPE OF BRIDGE.

YES, THE WEIR TO GO OVER,

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SO THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES TO THAT PROJECT. SO IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE CIP AS WELL.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PROJECTION WAS ABOUT $1.8 MILLION TO DO EVERYTHING THERE, WHICH INCLUDED SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, TRAVIS. AND THIS WAS TO CUT IT DOWN JUST TO GET US A BRIDGE OVER THERE AND THEN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DEFINE A TRAIL SPACE THAT WOULD BE WALKABLE AND KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL VERSUS THE MILLION-DOLLAR PORTION OF IT TO DO THAT AND THE WEIR THAT WOULD GET YOU OVER, THE BRIDGE TO GET YOU OVER THE WEIR AND THE CRUSHED GRANITE TRAIL. I LIKE, SO THAT WAS ABOUT $1 MILLION. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BRIDGE. WOULD THAT CONNECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE PARK MORE THAN, IS IT STILL GOING TO BE SEPARATED FROM THAT? I DO SEE, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, USUALLY IT'S YOUNG MEN OUT THERE TAKING THEIR TACKLE BOXES AND THEY'RE GOING TO THAT LITTLE POND AND THE FISHING THAT'S OVER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACK, BUT THEY HAVE TO WALK THEM DOWN THE DITCH LINE OVER BEHIND THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S HOW THEY TOLD ME THEY DID IT. A COUPLE YOUNG GUYS, I STOPPED THEM TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY TEENAGERS.

THERE'S A FEW THAT WILL GO AROUND THE APARTMENT, OR SOME WILL COME OFF OF VALDERAS. AND BUT I, IT'S NOT ON HERE. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT MAYBE SEE ADDITIONAL PARKING AT BATES PARK, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL PARKING AT FREEDOM AFTER THE, THE FIELD GETS CONSTRUCTED.

YOU ADD THE BRIDGE PLUS THE FIELD, I THINK YOU HAVE PEOPLE, YOU'RE GOING TO START HAVING FOOT TRAFFIC, A, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PARKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE 4 QUADPLEX, PLEX, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, FOR LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS. YOU CAN HAVE A SENIOR LEAGUE FIELD.

I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN TOUCH, A TALK OF POTENTIALLY THE COLLEGE USING IT, HAVING, HAVING TO BE ABLE TO PARK A BUS, WHETHER IT'S BRAZOSWOOD COLLEGE PLAYING SAN JACINTO COLLEGE. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PARK. THEY DON'T WANT TO PARK A MILE AWAY AND HAVE TO TREK OVER ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT TO THE STADIUM. BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WALK THAT TRACK AND SPECIFICALLY GO OVER THAT BRIDGE AND GO FISHING OR DO WHATEVER, GO THROUGH THE NATURE TRAIL. AND TRAVIS, WELL, THEY WANT TO WALK ANYWAY, SO JUST MAKE THEM PARK AT THE OTHER STREET. I GET IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CONVENIENCE FACTOR, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO SPECIFICALLY FISHING. IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXERCISE, YEAH, IT DOESN'T PROBABLY MATTER.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FISH OR HANG OUT IN THAT MORE NATURAL STATE OF THE PARK, BECAUSE THE SOUTH END WILL ALWAYS BE MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL PARK, THE NORTH END HAS A CHANCE TO BE MORE OF A NATURAL AREA. I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. I KNOW THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT. CONCRETE, I KNOW, IS EXPENSIVE. ANYWAY, WELL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION BECAUSE KIND OF MAY TIE INTO IT. THIS NUMBER 9, YOU TALK ABOUT A RENTABLE PAVILION AT FREEDOM PARK. SO IT'S LIKE IF YOU TALK ABOUT PARKING WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT FOR THAT PAVILION POSSIBLE. I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY WE GO, BUT YES, I MEAN, YEAH. AND SO MY QUESTION ON THAT RENTABLE PAVILION THOUGH IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROJECTIONS DONE TO SAY, OKAY, ONCE IT'S DONE, WE'D BE ABLE TO RENT IT X AMOUNT EVERY YEAR, QUARTERLY, OR ANYTHING? BECAUSE WE KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS, IF IT DOES GET RENTED, THEN THAT'S ACTUALLY AN OFFSET TO THE COST THAT WE'RE SPENDING? UH, WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE COMPARABLE TO IT AT THE MOMENT. I MEAN, LAKESIDE MIGHT BE YOUR CLOSEST, BUT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT AS WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED THAT TO BE. UH, THE PROJECTED COST HERE WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH MAYBE ABIGAIL, JUST HIGHLY MORE FOCUSED ON THE PAVILION COMPONENT OF IT TO MAKE A LARGER SCALE PAVILION TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A RENTAL SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT SPACE.

AND THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR FREEDOM PARK AS WELL, WAS TO HAVE A LARGER PAVILION. WE JUST DON'T HAVE ONE OTHER THAN LAKESIDE THAT REALLY IS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I GUESS THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO BRING UP, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ALSO TALKED YEARS AGO ABOUT FREEDOM PARK AND HAVING THE AMPHITHEATER. SO WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE PAVILION, IF IT'S A RENTABLE PAVILION,

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BUT I MEAN, IF, IF WE WANT TO GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE, PAVILION, LARGE RENTABLE PAVILION OR AMPHITHEATER, KIND OF DO, YOU KNOW, 2-IN-1, PARKING STILL BECOMES AN ISSUE.

YOU STILL GO BACK TO THE PARKING, YOU KNOW. SO, UH, THAT'S THE PLAN FROM BURDETT THOUGH, INCLUDES THE PAVILION, THE 40 BY 40 PAVILION, AND THE ADDITIONAL 2 FIELDS AND PARKING. YEAH, AND THE PARKING, RIGHT? I'M JUST THINKING PARKING THOUGH IS FIRST I KNOW IT SEEMS BACKWARDS, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK YOU PUT PARKING IN FIRST BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL GET USE OUT OF THAT. I MEAN, I COULD SEE, I CAN SEE THAT. UM, THE PAVILION, WELL, IT, THERE'S A NICE, THE, THE BURDETT HAS A VERY NICE WALKING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, THE PROMENADE ACROSS.

PROMENADE ACROSS. THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO KEEP ALL THIS KIND OF BIG PICTURE, BUT THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE.

BUT I THINK A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED THROUGH, LIKE YOU SAID, A BOND. YEAH, I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS I THINK IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME THROUGH, BUT I'M GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES. IF I HAD TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU FOCUS FIRST ON GETTING THAT BRIDGE BECAUSE THAT TIES THE 2 PIECES TOGETHER. OTHERWISE, WE HAVE A NORTH LOT THAT'S NOT ANY, WELL, I'M NOT SAYING NOBODY'S USING IT, OBVIOUSLY, I JUST TALKED ABOUT YOUNG MEN THAT ARE NOT AFRAID TO TRAIPSE THROUGH THE, AS FAR AS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THIS OUT THERE. THE AMPHITHEATER AT VETERANS PARK, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. IF ANYBODY LISTENS TO CITY COUNCIL, THE PUSHBACK WE GET FROM THE SOUND THE PUSHBACK WE GET FROM THE SOUND STAGE AT VETERANS PARK, IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF LIMITED ON WHAT YOU CAN HAVE. YEAH, IT GETS REALLY LIKE, AND I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE, I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT GETS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE, IF Y'ALL, DID ANYBODY GO OUT TO EITHER ONE OF THE CONCERTS? WE MOVED IT OVER ONE LOT. YEP, WE DIDN'T, WE GOT LESS PUSHBACK THERE FROM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE HAVING THE NOISE, RIGHT? UH, STILL RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, LESS, BUT FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN. YEAH, THERE'S NO PERFECT SPOT. I MEAN, BUT IT MAY BE THAT AN AMPHITHEATER OUT THERE, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO RUN INTO RANCHO, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE LIVING IN RANCHO WILL SAY OUR, THAT SOUND IS TOO CLOSE TO OUR HOME. I DON'T KNOW.

OH, THEY WOULD. BUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE I GUESS WHAT WHOEVER DESIGNED THE AMPHITHEATER, ACOUSTICS-WISE, I GUESS SOUND ENGINEERS COULD PROBABLY CREATE AN AMPHITHEATER OR WHICHEVER ENVIRONMENT THAT COULD LIKE THROW THE VIBRATIONS TOWARDS IT. OH, I'M SURE WE CAN, WE CAN TURN THINGS. AND, AND SO THAT WAY, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, EVEN DOWNTOWN, I GUESS WHERE VETERANS PARK IS LOCATED, SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MOVE IT OVER A BLOCK, LIKE YOU SEE, YOU HAVE THE OTHER GUYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SOUND, THE NOISE.

ONE BLOCK, THE OTHER GUY'S COMPLAINING.

FREEDOM PARK, RANCHO, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS THERE. SO THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAYBE COMPLAINING THEN TOO.

BUT IT'S LIKE, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP A LITTLE SOMETHING TO GET SOMETHING AS WELL.

YEAH, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY ALREADY, I GUESS, IN THE, AMANDA LIVES THERE, SHE KNOWS. YOU'RE ALREADY USED TO THE SOUND FROM THE STADIUM. AND FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON OVER THERE, THE BASEBALL FIELDS. AND SO THEY'RE, HOW MANY NIGHTS A WEEK? MAYBE ONCE A MONTH. YOU KNOW SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT TOO? NOW THIS MAY BE A STRETCH, BUT THINK ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS. THINK

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BUT SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE IN THEIR 20S AND 30S AND 40S AND 50S, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH. SO MAYBE THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PERSON LIVING DOWNTOWN VERSUS, UNLESS THEY HAVE CHILDREN.

WELL, THAT'S TRUE. BUT THE, THE THING AT VETERANS PARK, ARE THEY JUST WANTING TO REPLACE THE GAZEBO THAT WAS THERE? I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF, PEOPLE WERE USED TO THAT, MAYBE BECAUSE THAT LIMITED YOU WHAT COULD ACTUALLY BE THERE.

LIKE, IT HAD TO BE LIKE A LITTLE, US HAVING A BAND OR SOMETHING.

IT WOULDN'T, YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO CRANK OUT A BUNCH OF SOUND. YEAH.

ON THAT, ALTHOUGH THEY DID. IS THERE ANY, THIS IS, I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET PUSHBACK ON THIS, BUT I'M TRYING TO THINK BIG PICTURE. WILD HAIR. YEAH. OKAY. IF WE DON'T SAY IT, WE CAN'T EXPLORE IT.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION? IS THERE A GRANT IN PLACE FOR VETERANS PARK? DOES IT HAVE TO BE THERE, OR COULD IT BE MOVED? I MEAN, IN THEORY, AS FAR AS I RECALL, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY GRANT TIED TO IT. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING NOW, SO I WAS KIND OF DIRECT AS WELL. VETERANS PARK IS KIND OF LIKE THIS, UNKNOWN DISCUSSION OF WHERE TO GO WITH IT. AND SO WHILE I THINK THE AMPHITHEATER COULD SERVE A PURPOSE, I THINK MORE OF A MASTER PLAN TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN FOR VETERANS WOULD BE IS IS IT THAT OR IS IT TRULY MORE OF A VETERANS MEMORIAL THAT IS A SMALLER POCKET PARK IN THE CITY THAT I LIKE HONORS THEM, HONORS VETERANS AND THAT IS MORE OF A KIND OF, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT IT IS NOW. YOU HAVE BENCHES THERE. YOU WOULD DO BEAUTIFICATION. YOU WOULD HAVE A MEMORIAL TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE SERVED FROM ANGLETON. AND YOU TIE IT INTO THAT. SO WHEN SOMEBODY'S IN TOWN, THEY HAVE A PARK TO GO TO THAT'S KIND OF QUIET, REFLECTIVE. CURRENT FOOTPRINTS, THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS.

THAT'S A SMALL PARCEL OF LAND. IF THE CONCERT STAYED THERE, COULD IT BE BENEFICIAL? WOULD IT BE HIGHLY USED? AND SO REALLY KNOWING WHAT THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF VETERANS PARK WOULD BE WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TIE THAT IT WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE TO STAY THERE IF YOU WANT TO EXPLORE VETERANS PARK OR A DIFFERENT PIECE GOING TO ANOTHER AREA. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. I KNOW IT'S, THIS IS JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE LAID OUT IN ANGLETON. WE HAVE THE COUNTY SEAT. THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, THEY HAVE THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THAT, REFLECTIVE AREA, OR IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE. AND THEN WE HAVE MEMORIAL PARK THAT'S LIKE A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY.

SOMEHOW THEY EITHER NEED TO BE CONNECTED, OR LIKE LITERALLY WE GET WITH THE COUNTY AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO, WE WANT TO INCORPORATE OUR VETERANS PARK ON, I KNOW IT'S COUNTY LAND.

OR I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW, IT JUST SEEMS DISCONNECTED PRESENTLY. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK. VETERANS PARK, IT'S CITY PROPERTY? YES. OKAY. YEP. AND I'M NOT SAYING, BECAUSE HERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT, AND THIS IS JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE. IF IT WERE SOMETHING WE WERE TO CONSIDER, IT COULD BE A PARCEL THAT COULD BE SOLD OFF. TURNS INTO A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PIECE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I KNOW COX AND ALL THAT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T WANT, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT DOWNTOWN ANGLETON WON'T DIE. I HOPE IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY. BUT JUST, JUST, JUST THOUGHTS. I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANY OF THESE. I'M JUST THROWING THESE IDEAS. I KNOW WILD HAIRS OUT THERE TO SEE SEE IF ANYBODY WOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE AN IDEA OF RECONFIGURING THINGS. SELL IT TO THE COUNTY? SELL IT TO ANYBODY. I MEAN, BUT YOU GET IT, WHO WOULD, SOMEBODY WHO WOULD PAY TAXES ON IT. I MEAN, YOU COULD TURN IT INTO DEVELOPMENT. AND JOHN, I DON'T THINK, I THINK I'M UPSETTING JOHN HERE. WELL, BASED ON ITS LOCATION, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, IT'S JUST SO TOUGH. IT'S LIKE IN THE BACK OF A HALF OF A BACK HALF OF A, A BLOCK. I'VE TALKED ABOUT SHUTTING SHENANGO DOWN RIGHT THERE AND TAKING THAT PART OF THE ROAD INTO THE PARK BECAUSE IT'S A ROAD TO NOTHING NOW. WELL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXIT. YEAH, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, MAN, YOU'RE, YOU, YOU NEED TO COME DOWNTOWN AND WORK DOWNTOWN AT SCHOOL, AT THE COURTHOUSE, AND YOU WOULD SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS AROUND. IF YOU'RE SHUTTING DOWN EVEN MORE TRAFFIC, IT IT'S PRETTY BRUTAL ON MONDAYS AND THURSDAYS TO TRY TO DRIVE AROUND DOWNTOWN. OH, SURE. I DIDN'T WANT SHENANGO CLOSED

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UM, WHY THAT CAN'T BE PAVED, OR THE PART IN FRONT OF IT? YES. OR WE FIXED THE OTHER SIDE WHERE YOU COME IN OFF OF SOUTH WALKER, YOU MAKE THAT CURVE. WHEN YOU GO STRAIGHT THROUGH THERE, THERE'S TRIPLE CURVES OR WHATEVER. WELL, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID THE CURVES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE CONCESSION STAND LIES ON THE OLD ROAD, BASICALLY.

UM, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING, THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING ALL THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME DURING TOURNAMENTS. YEP. WHY NOT JUST EMBRACE IT AND GO AHEAD AND PUT A PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE AS WELL? A PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR UMPIRES AND COACHES OR WHATEVER. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE BY THE BATHROOM, PAVE THAT AND WE FIX AN ADA ISSUE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALK FOR PEOPLE TO GET, OR A WHEELCHAIR RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING ACROSS THE CRUSHED GRAVEL AND YEAH, IT, IT'S HARD FOR THEM.

THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE NEAREST, WHICH IS LIKE ON FIELD 2, TO GET ONTO THE SIDEWALK TO COME UP THE RAMP. WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A WHILE.

SO NEVER FIX THIS. SO TO ME, BEFORE WE START EXPANDING PARKING LOTS OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT FREEDOM, BUT ON THE BATES SIDE, WE, WE NEED TO FIX WHAT WE'VE GOT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT JUST JUMPS OUT AT ME EVERY TIME THAT, SO I'M GOING TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE. UM, I DON'T, I, I LIKE YOUR IDEA FRAMEWORK. I WOULD PREFER WE START THINKING ABOUT REORGANIZING THE WHOLE PARKING LOT RATHER THAN JUST FIX A PIECE. WHY DON'T WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX PARKING IN GENERAL? WELL, LIKE YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE DROVE AROUND IT, IS, I MEAN, RIGHT, BUT THAT MAY BE LIKE WHERE WE HAVE TO GET AN ACTUAL ENGINEER IN INSTEAD OF JUST SCOOPING OUT SOME GRAVEL AND PAVING OVER WITH CONCRETE. I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL FINDING PARKING AND MAKING WE HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, SIDEWALKS THAT LEAD TO THE PARKING AND, AND THAT ARE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE AND MAKE SURE WE STILL HAVE THE DRAINAGE IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, IT JUST RATHER THAN JUST THROW SOME CONCRETE DOWN AND, NO, WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. I'M JUST SAYING FIX WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW. IF WE WANT TO FIX WHAT WE GOT AND IN THE FUTURE REARRANGE IT, IF WE WANT TO FIX IT NOW THE RIGHT WAY AND THE LONG-TERM PLAN, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I'M JUST SAYING LET'S PUT THAT ON THE PRIORITY AND LET'S START WORKING TOWARDS TOWARDS IT BEFORE WE START ADDING A LOT OF NEW STUFF. LET'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

HOW WE FIX IT, I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. UH, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL IF I GOT WITH HDR TO LOOK AT THAT SITE PLAN? AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH BECAUSE THERE ARE, I KNEW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, AND I, WE CAN WALK THROUGH, JOHN. THERE'S THE SPACE IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE CONCESSION STAND. SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD PLACE FOR WHEEL, OR FOR OUR DISABLED PARKING, SEEMS LIKE. UH, BUT IF YOU WORK YOUR WAY A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS, WEST, WHERE THAT WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN THERE'S LIKE A SHARP TURN AND THEN THERE'S SOME CULVERTS THERE, I THINK YOU COULD START,

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OH YEAH, I'M SURE THE PARK RANGER JUST SITS THERE AND HATES THOSE PECANS EVERY TIME THEY HAVE TO GO MOW. WE TOOK ONE DOWN TODAY. AHA, SEE, RIGHT ON CUE. BUT I MEAN, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS, THERE'S GONNA BE QUITE A FEW MORE OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE GOING OUT BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE DYING OVER THERE. IT IS, IT IS. I GUARANTEE YOU, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO LIVE AROUND THERE FOR BOTH FREEDOM AND BATES. BATES SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS, PEOPLE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY'RE ALWAYS BLOWN AWAY. THEY'RE LIKE, WOW. AND IF YOU'RE PLAYING SOFTBALL IN JUNE AND JULY, YOU KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THERE IS A SHADE STRUCTURE. IT'S GOD'S SHADE. YOU KNOW, WE LITERALLY HAVE THESE TREES THAT ARE JUST LIFESAVERS FROM THE HEAT.

ON THE, ON THE FREEDOM SIDE, IT'S OUR PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.

IT'S JUST THE PEOPLE ARE, THEY'LL COME IN FROM HOUSTON AND THEY'LL BE LIKE, WAIT, I CAN JUST TURN MY KID LOOSE AND LET THEM GO PLAY? LIKE, THIS IS UNHEARD OF. LIKE, THIS IS 1970S ALL OVER AGAIN. WE LOVE IT.

YOU KNOW? AND THEY COME AND THEY CAN JUST TURN THEIR KIDS TO GO RUN DOWN AND PLAY AND THEY CAN WATCH THEIR GAME WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING TUGGED ON THE WAIST AND BEING FORCED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN WATCH THE OTHER CHILD PLAY.

SO THEY BOTH ARE REALLY GREAT STRUCTURES, BUT WHICH WE JUST UPDATED FREEDOM. NOW THE IDEA IS WE NEED TO START GOING BACK TO BATES AND START MAKING SURE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING TO LAST GENERATIONS. YEP.

THOSE ARE MY ONLY 2 THINGS TO ADD THAT I SAW THAT I KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE GET LISTED.

DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M ALREADY OVER 14 MINUTES, BUT KEEP GOING. HE LOST THE BET. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE INTEREST IN THIS, GUYS.

THIS IS REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGING. SO THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR CONSIDERING ALL THIS. UH, TRAVIS, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE PARKING, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE PARKING AND FREEDOM.

WE KIND OF CAME DOWN ON THE SIDE THAT WE'VE GOT THE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A WALK, BUT FOR THE MONEY THAT WE'D SAVE IN UTILIZING THAT BIG HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM PARKING LOT GOES A LONG WAYS TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE COULD GET ON. THE PREVENTABLE, THE RENTABLE PAVILION AT FREEDOM PARK, OUR THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF LITTLE PAVILIONS THERE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A BASEBALL TEAM AND YOU WANT TO RENT A PAVILION FOR A COOKOUT OR SOMETHING AFTER A GAME, SOMETHING LARGE ENOUGH TO UTILIZE A WHOLE TEAM WOULD BE GREAT. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DUMPED A LOT OF MONEY IN BASEBALL FIELDS BOYS BASEBALL, AND MAYBE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE GIRLS SOFTBALL THE RESPECT THAT THEY RESERVE, DESERVE. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S A BIG FOCAL POINT, PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN TO SEE THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I GUESS IT WAS ITEM NUMBER 2 AND 3 BOTH ADDRESSED THAT ONE. WITH THE BRIDGE THAT GOES TO THE PASSIVE AREA AT FREEDOM, I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, WE TALKED ABOUT A TPWD GRANT ON THAT, MAYBE IN THE SPRING. IS THAT, YES, IS THAT SOMETHING? A GRANT, TRAILS GRANT, IN FEBRUARY EVERY YEAR. GOOD.

UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT THE NOTES THAT I HAVE ON THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAME UP WITH ANY OF THIS? I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT NUMBER 2 ON THE PLAYGROUND. YES. DIDN'T WE JUST REPLACE THAT PLAYGROUND AT BATES PARK IN THE LAST 8 YEARS? THAT WAS DICKEY. THAT WAS DICKEY. THE ONE AT, WHEN WAS THE ONE AT BATES REPLACED? BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO. AND WE TOOK ONE DOWN. UH, WE TOOK ONE DOWN,

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CAN SOMEBODY FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT ONE THAT'S THERE WAS PUT IN? ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. OKAY, THEN YEAH, IN MY MIND IT WAS JUST REPLACED BECAUSE I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE REPLACED IT, SO KIND OF THE SAME THING THERE WHEN YOU COME TO FREEDOM, YOU CAN LET YOUR KIDS PLAY, THE KIDS THAT AREN'T PLAYING BASEBALL. OH YEAH, OH YEAH.

AND SAME THING AT BATES, THE KIDS THAT AREN'T PLAYING SOFTBALL, THEY NEED A PLAYGROUND RIGHT THERE TOO, AN UP-TO-DATE MODERN ONE. EVEN PEOPLE USING THE PAVILION, THEY MAY HAVE THEIR OLDER KID PLAYING BASKETBALL OR REHEARSING THEIR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, CONCIERGE DANCE AND LET THE OTHER KIDS PLAY ON THE PLAYGROUND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING. UH, JOHN, TO YOUR POINT ON THAT ONE THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES WE'VE, WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH AS WELL. I DID LEAVE THAT ON THERE BECAUSE IT WAS, CAME FROM THE BOARD. AND SO WE ARE AROUND THAT REPLACEMENT TIME OF RECOMMENDED ABOUT 15 YEARS.

COULD WE GET MORE YEARS OUT OF IT? YES. BUT PART OF THE REASON WE COUPLED THAT ONE TOGETHER IS THAT PAVILION, MINUS THE SMALLER ONES AT FREEDOM AND THINGS, THE PAVILION AT BATES AND THE PAVILION AT MASTER CENTER ARE 2 MORE UTILIZED PAVILIONS.

THEY ARE OLDER PAVILIONS THAT NEED WORK. SO THE ONE AT BATES HAS A CRACK THROUGH THE FOUNDATION, AND THE CANOPY, I'M SHORT, SO IT WORKS FINE FOR ME, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU MIGHT BE DUCKING. PEOPLE HIT THEIR HEADS ALL THE TIME GOING THROUGH. THERE'S NOT ACCESS AS FAR AS THE ADA COMPONENT. SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS KIND OF A PACKAGE PIECE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY TOGETHER, BUT PAVILION WAS PROBABLY A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE PLAYGROUND. IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT FOUNDATION AND THE SETUP FOR THAT ONE. SO I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THE PAVILION AND THE PLAYGROUND STILL LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD, WE'VE STILL GOT TIME. WE JUST DID SOME REPLACEMENT STUFF ON IT. UM, IT IS GETTING THERE.

SO AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THINK, LIKE, SEE IT DETERIORATE LIKE WE STARTED TO SEE UH, FREEDOM DO. WE STILL SHOULD HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO UPKEEP A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE MAINTENANCE INTO IT.

BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A COUPLE YEARS ON THAT ONE.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE PAVILION, THAT'S TYPICALLY ONE OF THE HIGHER UTILIZED PAVILIONS.

DICKEY COMES FIRST JUST BECAUSE BETTER PAVILIONS AND THE PLAYGROUND. BUT BATES WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME THING. IT WOULD BECOME A MORE HIGHLY RENTABLE SPACE FOR THAT ONE. I THINK A LOT OF, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER PAVILION, UM, BUT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF IT ISN'T THE GREATEST. SO NO, I AGREE. I, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT REPLACEMENT OF THE PAVILION AT BATES FIRST.

BUT YEAH, MASTERSON AND BATES, THOSE 2 PAVILIONS ARE, YOU COULD GO ON WITH A LITTLE PREFAB METAL AND MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AND GET A LOT LONGER LIFE OUT OF IT AND PROBABLY BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION. IT ALSO, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT FLOODS. YES, IT, THE WATER GOES IN. YEP. WHEN IT RAINS. AND THE ONE THAT MASTER SENT YOU? YEAH. YEP. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT PAD, AND BATES IS, UH, THE PAD MAY NOT FLOOD, BUT THE, THE MOAT AROUND IT DOES. YES, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK TO IT. SO YOU'D HAVE TO WALK TO THAT.

BUT IF IT WAS COMPARABLE TO THE ONE AT DICKEY, SO THE DICKEY, WE HAD THE LARGER PAVILION, THE SMALLER ONE. IF IT WAS MORE COMPARABLE TO THE LARGER PAVILION, YOU WOULD SEE A LOT MORE HEAVY USAGE AT THAT. CORRECT. YEAH.

UM, BUT ALL I SEE, ALL THESE THINGS TOO, TO GO BACK TO THIS PAGE, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE ADA PARK TRANSITION PLAN. I, I WOULDN'T SPEND THE MONEY ON THE PLAN UNTIL WE START FIXING SOME OF THE THINGS WE ALREADY KNOW WE'VE GOT TO FIX. FIXED.

YEAH. SO I'D RATHER PUT THE MONEY INTO THOSE PROJECTS BEFORE I GO PUT IT INTO A PLAN. OKAY. WELL, ON THAT, SO THE PLAN, THAT'S THINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

SO IF WE DO SOME OF THESE PARK PROJECTS, SO IF WE WERE TO ADDRESS THE PAVILION AND WE DID A SIDEWALK TO IT, THAT WOULD KNOCK OFF SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE PLAN. SO SOME OF THEM DO CORRELATE WITH EACH OTHER VERSUS THE PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE. SO EXAMPLE WAS LIKE THE REC CENTER, ADDRESSING THE DECK KNOCKS THAT OFF THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE PLAN. AND SO SOME OF THAT DOESN'T, NO LONGER APPLIES BECAUSE WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT. THE MONEY ALLOCATED HERE IS IF WE WERE JUST TO DO ONLY AN ADA COMPONENT VERSUS TYING IT INTO A PROJECT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. AND DO YOU HAVE THE BREAKDOWN ON THE COVERED SEATING AT BATES PARK BY FIELD, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST? SO FIELD 3 UH, BASED ON THIS PROJECTION, IT WAS ACTUALLY TO DO THE 4 FIELDS THAT DON'T HAVE IT.

UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY $30,000 TO $35,000 FOR ONE FIELD, AND SO IT'S ABOUT $15,000 PER STRUCTURE, RIGHT AROUND, GIVE OR TAKE THERE. UH, SO YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO 2 FIELDS,

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BUT WE CAN FURTHER, WE, WE, AND I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED, THEY HAVE STANDARD OPTIONS WHICH THEY CAN GO TO AND PULL OUT OF THEIR WAREHOUSE.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADAPT IT, AS LONG AS IT'S, YOU KNOW, WIND ADJUSTED, IT'S GOING TO HOLD UP. THEN MAKE IT A LITTLE TALLER, A LITTLE DEEPER, A LITTLE WIDER, DEPENDING ON, AGAIN, THE ENGINEERING IS IN PLACE THAT IT WON'T GO TOPPLING OVER. BUT 60 GETS YOU TO, YEAH, THEY HAD SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR EACH. YEAH, YEAH. AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT NICE. IT'D BE A CANTILEVER SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE AT FREEDOM.

AND YEAH, I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT WAS A DEBATE WHETHER WE SHOULD GO WITH SOMETHING MORE CUSTOMIZABLE, MORE CUSTOM, VERSUS SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE STANDARD. SAVE MONEY.

STANDARD, SAVE MONEY, AND JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT AND JUST PLACE IT A FEW FEET HERE, A FEW THERE, AND JUST BE THE SAME THING.

AND YOU SAVE MONEY ON THAT ONE. YEAH, WE GET MORE COVERAGE. TRYING TO PULL IT UP BECAUSE TO THAT POINT I CAN TELL YOU THEY DID ALTER FIELD 5 BECAUSE FIELD 5 BLEACHERS ARE SMALLER AND THE CONCRETE FOOTPRINT OVER THERE IS SMALLER. AND I WAS, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT THEY STILL THINK THERE'S SOME CONCRETE WORK YOU MAY NEED TO DO AROUND. WELL, AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, IF I BELIEVE FOR THAT ONE, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE A SEPARATE, INSTEAD OF ATTACHING INTO THE CONCRETE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE PUT PIERS TO ATTACH TO.

BUT IF I RECALL, I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP, THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CUSTOMIZED AND THE COST FOR THAT WAS, IF NOT THE SAME, COULD HAVE BEEN MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE LARGER STRUCTURES. I WOULD HOLD OFF ON 5. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED IT IMMEDIATELY. YEAH, I WOULDN'T DO 5 RIGHT NOW. I ALSO THINK IF, LIKE, I'M SERIOUS ON THAT THIRD BASE, FIRST BASE SIDE, THE EAST SIDE, THERE IS A SLOUGH DITCH THAT RUNS RIGHT, ALMOST RIGHT UP AGAINST IT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO WASH AWAY A LOT OF SEATING. I MEAN, IT JUST IS. IT'S IT'S NOT IDEAL. SO THEY GET TO PULL IT UP. THE STRUCTURE FOR THE FIELD 5 WAS A 20 BY 16, AND IT CAME AT $20,000 FOR THE 2 OF THEM. SO I WOULD HOLD OFF. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE STANDARD ONE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE OR DIRECTION TO ADD? SO I HAVE EXPLORE LOOKING AT 3 AND 4 TO ADD? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL CONFIDENT PUTTING IN FOR CONTINGENCY FOR NEXT YEAR? I WOULD. OKAY, I WOULDN'T DO IT NOW. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXPLORE ADDING 3 AND 4 FOR CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR.

YES. AND OKAY, OKAY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DO FIELDS 3 AND 4 OUT OF CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR.

OKAY. UM, WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, UH, TRAVIS, I'M LISTENING. YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BITE OFF THE $13,000 FOR THE RESTRIPING OF THE PARKING LOTS? YES.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. IS THAT, I DO. THEY WEREN'T PRIORITIZED IN THAT ORDER. SO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT? I DO. I'LL MAKE MY MOTION TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE THAT.

DO I HAVE AN AMENDED SECOND? I ALSO SECOND THAT PART. OKAY.

SO I HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION AND AMENDED SECOND. I DO ALSO WANT TO MAKE A DISCUSSION POINT THAT YOU SPEAK WITH THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION REGARDING LOTS A AND B. OKAY, WE CAN DO THE SIMILAR FOR BATES. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS YET. WHO DOES THAT ROAD BELONG TO THAT WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED WHEN WE TRUCKED ALL THE DIRT OVER THERE? THE ENTRANCE-EXIT ROAD, OR THAT, IT'S THAT SMALL ROAD THAT CONNECTS WHAT'S THAT? NOT THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE ONE ON THE, THE WEST SIDE. THAT'S JUST WEST OF PARKING LOT B.

YEAH, THAT'S OUR ROAD. THE EXIT ROAD. THE EXIT ROAD. YEAH, THAT'S OUR ROAD. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING.

IT'S IN ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE SHAPE.

TECHNICALLY, THAT'S A PUBLIC WORKS ROAD BECAUSE THE CONNECTION POINT, THERE'S, THERE WAS DISCUSSION

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YES, YES. TECHNICALLY, I DON'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT'S CONSIDERED A ROAD, BUT WE CAN, OH, IT'S A ROAD.

IT'S SOMETHING. YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING. YES, PEOPLE USE IT, PUT IT THAT WAY. I MEAN, EVEN IF WE JUST LEVEL IT WITH CRUSHED, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BLACKTOP ANYMORE. JUST, YOU GOT, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST FILL IT IN AND DO SOMETHING. WE'VE GOT TO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE, I, I MEAN, IT'S, I'LL GET WITH HECTOR TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THAT.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROJECT PRIORITIES ON THIS LIST OR ON OUR PREVIOUS LIST THAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET INCREASE? I WOULD ADD THEM TO THIS, ADD THEM TO IT WITH A PRIORITIZATION ON THE SIDE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN WE CAN START GOING OFF OF A MASTER LIST THAT WE CAN START MOVING IN. AS PARKS BOARD FINDS SOMETHING, THEY SEND IT OVER TO US AND WE CAN ADD OUR STUFF.

I DO, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING AGGRESSIVE ON GRANTS. YES. UM, IF ANY ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S A MATCHING PORTION, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT TO SAVE SOME FOR THAT MATCHING PORTION PART.

BUT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT THE BRIDGE OR WHATEVER, JUST ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

UM, I THINK WE SHOULD BE PROGRESSIVELY LOOKING. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I REITERATED TO THE PARKS BOARD WAS LETTING THEM KNOW THAT NOW THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THAT PRO, THE PRIORITY LIST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IS FOR US TO KEEP THOSE IN MIND OF WHEN WE LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES OF HOW THAT WOULD SUPPORT.

SO, OKAY, WELL, I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE

[COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS ]

AND DR. JACKSON'S IN. AS LONG AS YOU GOT SOME, YOU GOT SOME RACQUETBALL COURTS, SQUASH COURTS, IS THAT WHAT WE NEED? THANK YOU. YOU REALLY, YOU REALLY BROUGHT THIS TO LIGHT. I MOVE WE ADJOURN.

YOU, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE SHOULD EXPAND THE REC CENTER.

AND SO MAYBE WE CAN TEAM UP AND OTHER THINGS. SO YOU REALLY WANT, IN THE RACK OF OUR COURT, AND ESPECIALLY THE SAUNA, WE'RE ON POINT. YOU'RE WILLING TO FUND IT? I CONCUR. PORTION.

I CONCUR. A PORTION. SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED THE NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET SCHEDULES FOR BONDS, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S COMING FORWARD. WHAT'S THE NEXT YEAR? I DO THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT. WE GOT TO BE PATIENT. COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS. YEAH, IT'S NOT NEXT YEAR. YEAH, SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, WE NEED THIS. WE DON'T THINK WE CAN GO OUT TO DEBT SERVICE JUST YET.

YEAH, NO, NO, NO, BUT I'M SAYING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN 2 YEARS FROM NOW IT MIGHT TURN INTO, OH HEY, SOMETHING BROKE, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. SO YEAH, POPULATION'S GROWING. YEAH.

GREAT COMMUNICATION FROM THE BOARD ONE. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMUNICATIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7:29.

OKAY, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, JASON.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.