5. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action on approving Order No. 20260623-005 finding and declaring the property located at 320 West Peach Street, Angleton, Brazoria County, Texas 77515, and the structure thereupon to be a public nuisance and substandard and ordering the abatement of the public nuisance conditions and the demolition and removal of the structure; providing for for amendment; and providing for severability.

[5. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action on approving Order No. 20260623-005 finding and declaring the property located at 320 West Peach Street, Angleton, Brazoria County, Texas 77515, and the structure thereupon to be a public nuisance and substandard and ordering the abatement of the public nuisance conditions and the demolition and removal of the structure; providing for for amendment; and providing for severability. ]

I, NUMBER FIVE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING ORDER NUMBER 20260623-005.

FINDING AND DECLARING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 320 WEST EAST OR WEST PEACH STREET, ANGLETON, BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS 77515. AND THE STRUCTURE THEREUPON TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND SUBSTANDARD AND ORDERING THE STATEMENT, THE ABATEMENT OF THE PUBLIC NUISANCE CONDITIONS AND THE DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF THE STRUCTURE PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? GOOD EVENING, MR. COUNCIL. 320 WEST PEACH WAS A IS A HOUSE STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR A WHILE.

SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER. I'LL JUST RUN BACK THROUGH BASICALLY THE LAST TIME WE KIND OF HAD A TIMETABLE ON THIS HOUSE STARTED BACK IN MAY 22ND, KIND OF GAVE THE WHAT WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, IN JULY 22ND, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OCCUPANCY OF DECEMBER 30TH 122.

IT'S. BEEN A FEW. THERE'S BEEN SOME PERMITTING.

THERE EXPIRED. THERE'S BEEN A FEW THINGS DONE TO THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE IT WAS. BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE HAD SET THIS TIMELINE WITH

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BACK IN 2022. SO HERE WE ARE TODAY STILL DEALING WITH THE SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE.

SO I THINK YOU HAD SOME PICTURES IN YOUR THERE WE GO. I KNOW MR. SPADE IS HERE, AS YOU SAW, TO SPEAK ON IT.

WE'RE JUST HERE. I MEAN, IT'S STILL A SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT FOR QUITE A WHILE HERE, AND WE JUST BRING IT TO YOU FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND.

THE FUTURE OF IT. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION ON THAT CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON, FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK ON THIS AS WELL. THANK YOU. BRIAN SPADY. I'M THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE. WELL, EVERYTHING HE SAID IS CORRECT.

I, I DID GO THROUGH A DIVORCE FINISHED LAST YEAR, STARTED IN 2022.

SO I REALLY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY AT THAT POINT.

I DID PULL A PERMIT. I THINK IT WAS OCTOBER, END OF OCTOBER LAST YEAR AND STARTED WORKING ON IT AGAIN.

EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS A LITTLE BAD BECAUSE THE OUTSIDE IS NOT DONE STRUCTURALLY, THE HOUSE IS SOUND.

I MEAN, WE IT'S, IT'S BEEN INSPECTED BY THE WINDSTORM INSPECTORS.

AS WE GO THROUGH EACH STAGE, A NEW PROPERTY APPEARS, TAKES FOUR ANCHORS.

THIS ONE HAS TEN ON IT. WE'VE, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING TO UPGRADE.

AND I'M DOING IT SLOWLY. I DID HAVE KNEE SURGERY IN DECEMBER, SO THAT KIND OF SLOWED ME UP AGAIN.

BUT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

SO NOW IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN MY COURT AT THIS POINT.

AND THEN I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT REGULARLY. SO I THINK MY, I GET A YEAR WITH THE, WITH THE PERMIT. SO SIX MONTHS ON PERMIT. OH, WELL, WHEN I ASKED ABOUT IT.

OH, SHE TOLD ME A YEAR. WELL, THEY EMAILED ME HERE.

SHOULD STATE THAT ON THE PERMIT, RIGHT? YEAH IT DID.

AND WHEN I, WHEN I CALLED TO KIND OF GET IT EXTENDED, SHE SENT ME SOME FROM THE OFFICE, SENT ME BACK.

THEY SAID IT WAS GOOD FOR A YEAR. SO I SAID, OH.

YEAH. YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT SAID IT WAS EXTENDED.

IT'S IN THE IN THE MESSAGES IN THE APP. I MEAN, I APPROACHED MICHELLE.

2026 MUNICIPALITY. APRIL 24TH. IT DOES SAY IT'S VALID FOR ONE YEAR, UP TO 936.

WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. I MEAN, THAT WAS THROUGH THE PORTAL, BUT PERMITS ARE SIX MONTHS IN EVERY CITY.

BUT WE JUST I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE PROGRESS.

I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM I MEAN, MOST OF THE WORK HAD TO BE DONE PUTTING THE THINGS IN THE GROUND TO GET THE FOUNDATION RIGHT.

AND WITH THE WINDSTORM INSPECTIONS. I MEAN, THIS HOUSE HAS.

IS NOT DRIED IN. NO, THIS HOUSE IS NOT DRIED IN.

IT'S ALL THE ALL THE FRAMING HAS BEEN RAINED ON FOR, FOR YEARS NOW.

THAT INCLUDES ALL THE HARDWARE USED TO FASTEN IT TOGETHER.

AND I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT YOU USED A TREATED LUMBER ON ALL OF IT.

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I DID, ACTUALLY, THE ENTIRE THING IS TREATED.

NOT THE ENTIRE THING, BUT MOST OF IT IS. YEAH.

NOT THE. WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE ALL THE ALL THE SHEATHING.

WE'RE GOING TO REDO. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S BEEN EXPOSED TO WEATHER. SO BUT STRUCTURALLY, I MEAN LISTEN, I INVITED I ACTUALLY INVITED HIM OUT TO COME LOOK TO SEE WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ABOUT THE, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ABOUT THE DECKING THAT THE FRAMING IS SITTING ON.

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE WATER? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE WATER THAT'S BEEN STANDING ON THE FLOOR JOISTS? THE FLOOR JOISTS ARE ALL ARE ALL UNDER THE DECK.

THEY'RE ALL PRESSURE TREATED. WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I UNDERSTAND. WE CAN PROBABLY CALL YOU RIGHT BACK UP AFTER WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION.

OKAY. BUT WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE MOMENT, SO IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THEY CAN COME TO THE PODIUM. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND.

MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. I'M SORRY.

YOU CAN'T GO BACK UP THERE NOW. I JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IN A PUBLIC HEARING, WE GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS THAT I'M MAKING ARE BASED ON, ON STRUCTURES BEING BUILT WITHIN THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE RENTED AND, AND OR SOLD AT SOME POINT TO SOME OTHER POTENTIAL CITIZEN. AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNING.

UNDERSTOOD. YOU KNOW, WE MY ISSUE IS THAT WE IN GOOD FAITH WORKED WITH YOU IN 22. YOU DID. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY CLEAR THEN AND WE SAID, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN MILESTONES.

I REMEMBER THE MEETING VERY WELL WHERE WE SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THIS AND THIS IS 2026 AND US IT DOESN'T LIKE ANY PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE.

WELL, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ATTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES HERE AND THERE, BUT THAT'S STILL FOUR YEARS.

SO YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT KNOCKING THAT. I, I AGREE.

I WILL SAY SO SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE WHEN I I SPOKE WITH KYLE BACK THEN WAS HE'S JUST LIKE, JUST GET IT CLOSED IN, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'LL BE FINE FOR NOW.

AND AT ONE POINT, WE DID HAVE IT PRETTY MUCH CLOSED IN EXCEPT FOR THE GABLES AND BUT THERE WAS A BIG PART OF THE TREE HAD FALLEN ON TOP. AND SO WE ENDED UP JUST PULLING IT ALL OFF ON THE ONE SIDE.

AND SOME OF THE SHEATHING IS, I MEAN, IT'S ALL GOING TO COME OFF ANYWAY AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT NEW SHEATHING.

BUT SOME OF IT WAS PUT UP TEMPORARILY BECAUSE ON THIS SIDE HERE WE WERE PUTTING A LITTLE ADDITION ON THE SIDE AND ON THE BACK.

SO THAT SHEATHING THAT'S ON THIS SIDE RIGHT HERE WAS JUST PUT UP TEMPORARILY.

SO. YOU HAVE A PERMIT FOR THE ADDITION ON THE BACK.

YES. WELL I THOUGHT I DID. WELL THEY SAID IT EXPIRED IN SIX MONTHS.

HE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE SIX MONTHS ON A PERMIT.

I HAVE SOMETHING IN THE PORTAL THAT SENT THAT OUT IN SIX MONTHS.

IT WILL NEED GIVEN TIME TO RENEW PERMITS. YEAH.

AND. FLOOR OR CEILING. EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.

YOU'RE PLANNING TO LIVE HERE? I THINK I AM NOW DIVORCED? SO YEAH, THAT'S THE ISSUE, RIGHT? IS YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT SOME PERCEIVE AS SUBSTANDARD AND LETTING IT SIT THERE AND RUIN TO EITHER SELL OR TO RENT OUT.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO WHOEVER GOES INTO THAT SPOT.

IT'S ALSO NOT FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORS CURRENTLY SITTING THERE LIVING NEXT TO YOU AND WANTING TO KNOW WHY IS WHY IS IT THEY'RE IN TROUBLE IF THEY DON'T MOW THEIR YARD REGULARLY. BUT THIS CAN SIT HERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND JUST BE ALLOWED TO SIT.

SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT, RIGHT? AND THERE'S BEEN NO CONSISTENCY WITH THIS PROPERTY.

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TRUE. WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE IN 2022? IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE ROOF.

THE. WHEREAS NOW YOU HAVE HALF A ROOF. YEAH, IT WAS COVERED FULLY.

WE JUST. I JUST PULLED IT OFF THE BACK. BUT AND.

WELL, WE FIRST STARTED WORKING ON IT. I MEAN, THE FOUNDATION WAS SCREWED UP.

WE HAD TO GET A FOUNDATION PERMIT. GOT IT. THE FOUNDATION. I'M SORRY.

IN WHAT YEAR? 2022. OKAY. GOT THE FOUNDATION DONE ALL SQUARED.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT FOUNDING, FINDING, YOU KNOW, ROTTEN WOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE STARTED TEARING IT OUT, REPLACING IT WITH THAT'S GOOD.

I WAS USING GOOGLE MAPS.

I'M SORRY. SO STRIPPED ALL THE SIDING OFF. HE PULLED A PERMIT IN OCTOBER.

BUT. BUT THERE, THERE. IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY ANY MOVEMENT FORWARD ON THE HOUSE SINCE OCTOBER.

WELL, THERE HASN'T BEEN SHOWING THIS PICTURE AS THE.

BECAUSE THEY GOT THE PIERS AND ANCHORS ALL GOT APPROVED BY THE WINDSTORM INSPECTOR.

SO THE THE YOU HAVE A RECENT PHOTO. I MEAN, THIS IS FEBRUARY.

I THINK IT STILL IS THE SAME, RIGHT? YEAH. APRIL.

THE MAIN STRUCTURE. YES. BUT THE THE TWO ADDITIONS THERE'S FRAMING AROUND THE BASE ON THE TWO ADDITIONS.

SO LITERALLY PROBABLY TWO DAYS FROM FRAMING IT UP TO GET IT, BECAUSE THEN I COULD.

THE REASON I DIDN'T GO BACK AND DO THE ROOF WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T.

IT'S GOING TO BE EXTENDED OUT. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE IT DONE? WELL, I PLAN TO HAVE THE OUTSIDE DONE.

IN JULY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DONE? DRYDEN. DRYDEN.

DRYDEN. I THINK YOU NEED TO FIND THAT. WHAT DO YOU DEFINE AS? DRYDEN? ADDITIONS DONE. FULLY SHEATHED. WRAPPED.

SIDED. ROOF, WINDOWS, DOORS AND ROOF. EVERYTHING BUT THE INTERIOR WOULD BE WOULD BE A COMPLETE DRYING.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINED BY PRETTY MUCH ANY BUILDER THERE IS.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S READY TO LIVE IN UNTIL YOU WALK ON THE INSIDE.

THEN LET'S SAY. THAT WOULD BE THE LAST BECAUSE ONCE YOU HAVE IT WRAPPED, IT'S JUST REALLY PUTTING THE WINDOWS IN AT THAT POINT.

HE'S SAYING YOU GOT TO HAVE THE WINDOWS AND THE DOORS IN TO.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WINDOWS AND THE DOORS.

YEAH. BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE DRYING WHAT OCCURS BEFORE YOU START TO GET THE, THE MECHANICAL ROOF IN AND ALL THAT.

CORRECT. PLUMBING, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL.

ROOF, CORNICE DOORS AND WINDOWS SIDING. FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IF WE DEEM THIS AS A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING, IT GAVE HIM 90 DAYS TO GET TO MAKE ACTION HAPPEN.

IF HE COULD PRESENT THAT, HE MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED BY US, THEN THE SUBSTANDARD DECLARATION WOULD GO AWAY.

OR IF IT'S A IS IT LIKE A CONDITIONAL? YOU DECLARE IT TO BE SUBSTANDARD, BUT THERE'S NOT AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

AND THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION WOULD BE CONDITIONAL UPON 90 DAYS TO TO SHOW THAT THE REMODELING HAS BEEN MET.

LET ME I WAS JUST LOOKING. I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT.

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WELL ONE YOU DON'T. YES. IF YOU DECLARE IT TO BE A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING, YOU'RE ENFORCEMENT IS THE IS INSTRUCTED BY THE.

THE CODE AS A COUNCIL MAY DO X, Y, AND Z. SO IT IS NOT A SHELL.

YOU'RE FORCED TO FOLLOW X, Y, AND Z SO YOU CAN CONDITION IT UPON THAT.

NOW THE QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND ENFORCE SOMETHING, WHETHER YOU WOULD HAVE TO HOLD ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

I THINK YOU WOULD IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON IT.

I KNOW THAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD AFTER THE 90 DAYS, YOU CAN COME BACK WITH A MAJORITY VOTE AND AMEND.

SO YOU WOULD TEST WHERE HE'S GONE IN THE 90 DAYS AND DECIDE TO GRANT HIM AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE INTERIOR.

WHATEVER IS LEFT ON THE PROJECT.

I WILL SAY THE. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE HIM SUBMIT PROGRESS REPORTS.

THAT IS. YES, THAT IS A CITY SHALL. IF YOU GIVE HIM.

GRANT HIM 90 DAYS TO FIX THE ITEMS OR ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING, YOU ARE REQUIRED BY THE CODE TO HAVE HIM SUBMIT PROGRESS REPORTS ON ON HIS.

ON THE PROGRESS OF THE CONSTRUCTION. AND WHO PERFORMED THE INSPECTION? WAS IT YOU CALL? WHO INSPECTED THE HOUSE? HE WAS GETTING A THIRD PARTY WINDSTORM. WHO PERFORMED THE WINDSTORM INSPECTION AND WIN IN MISSOURI CITY, WHICH WE WOULD GET A COPY OF ALL. YOU DO ALSO HAVE TO GIVE HIM SOME VERY SPECIFIC TIME, PROGRESS AND.

BENCHMARKS HE NEEDS TO MEET IN THE WITHIN THAT 90 DAYS OR WE WOULD FINALIZE THEM ALL.

WE WOULD HAVE THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS ALL HOURS DONE.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TO. MAKE IT WHERE YOU COULD OCCUPY.

KYLE, COULD YOU? YOU HEAR ME? BASED ON BASED ON YOUR EVALUATION OF THE STRUCTURE AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW.

IS IT ABLE TO BE COMPLETED? ARE WE TALKING THE 90 DAYS? WELL, I'M JUST SAYING PERIOD PERIOD WITH WITHOUT, WITHOUT DISASSEMBLY OF THE FRAMING AS IT SITS.

BECAUSE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE FRAMING AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT I CAN SEE FROM HIM FOR THE WINDSTORM.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T TRUST YOU. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW AND SO HE HASN'T PROVIDED ANY DOCUMENTATION FOR THE WINDSTORM CERT FOR THE FRAMING.

AND YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. SO DEFINITELY SITTING IN THE WEATHER LIKE YOU WERE IS WE WOULD DEFINITELY REQUIRE SOMETHING FROM THE ENGINEER ON THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, WINDSTORM OF THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING ALL THE OTHER INSPECTIONS FROM THE THIRD PARTY. I MEAN, TO ME, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, AN EXTENSION BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE CAN PROVIDE A WINDSTORM CERT, CAN'T PROVIDE A WINDSTORM CERT, THEN YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVIDE A WINDSTORM CERT, THEN YOU CAN'T COMPLETE THE PROPERTY TO, TO, TO CURRENT COASTAL WINDSTORM SPECS.

AND. THEN WE'RE I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.

KYLE HOW LONG DID WE GIVE? WHAT WAS THE CONDITIONS LAST TIME? I'M TRYING TO READ THROUGH IT AGAIN AND. ON THAT LAST PROJECT PLAN, LET'S SEE.

THIS MUST BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. YEAH.

COMPLETE INTERIOR DEMO AND MINOR INTERIOR REPAIRS.

JULY 22ND. JULY 1ST 22. APPLY FOR PERMITS. JULY 18TH.

COMPLETE SMALL EXTERIOR ADDITION ROOFING AND SIDING.

AUGUST 27TH, 2022. PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, HVAC.

OCTOBER 1522 INDIAN INTERIOR FINISHES AND OCCUPANCY END OF DECEMBER 22ND.

I NEVER WANT TO SEE SOMEBODY'S HOUSE BEING TORN DOWN, BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY.

I THINK WE'VE GONE DOWN THIS ROAD ONCE AND IT WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF.

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I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL CALLING THIS A HOUSE.

IS THAT A HOUSE? COULD ANYBODY ACTUALLY HABITATE OVERNIGHT IN THAT STRUCTURE IN ANY WAY THAT WE WOULD RECOGNIZE AS BEING A FORMAL STRUCTURE? IT'S UNINHABITABLE. SO I DO AGREE WITH THE GENERAL OVERALL CONSENSUS OF PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BETTER THEMSELVES. I DON'T LIKE THE GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND KICKING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES, BUT NOBODY'S LIVING IN THERE. WE'RE FOUR YEARS PAST THE DUE DATE.

IF YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR, YOU'VE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT FOR FOUR YEARS AND WONDER IF SOMEBODY WAS EVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO USE.

IT TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY. I KNOW SOMEONE RIGHT NOW WHO'S GOING THROUGH A HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME THAT'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR.

THAT'S A MESS. IT'S A. I SIT THERE AND WONDER ALL THE TIME.

SO I CAN PERSONALLY FEEL FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS. I'M SORRY, I DO.

THAT'S THE WAY I WEAR MY HAT RIGHT NOW. I ALSO THINK THAT IF THE CITY HAS STANDARDS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR BACK'S AGAINST THE WALL, AT SOME POINT YOU GOT TO STAND TALL.

AND SO I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL, BUT WE'RE WELL PAST THE TIME OF SEEING MORE POSITIVE PROGRESS. COUNCIL MEMBER SIMMONS.

ILLUSTRATED IN A COMMENT A SECOND AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CAPTURED, BUT THE SIDING IS GONE, SO I'M SURE THE SIDING NEED TO BE REPLACED. BUT WE ARE ARGUING BACKWARDS, NOT FORWARDS.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, WE HAVE TO DO THESE OTHER THINGS, THE BASE AND.

I JUST. WE CAN GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PRECEDENT THAT SETS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LOOK AT US AND GO, WELL, WHY CAN'T I HAVE FOUR YEARS PLUS SIX MONTHS? RIGHT. AND SHOW NO VISIBLE PROGRESS. NOW, I KNOW MAYBE THERE'S SOME STRUCTURAL PROGRESS THAT'S NOT TO THE NAKED EYE.

I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY I SEE IT.

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL, BUT I MEAN, GOSH, I, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY REAL.

I MEAN, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO COME BEFORE ANOTHER GROUP AND AND LOOK WITH HONESTY IN MY EYES AND SAY, YEP, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

THAT'S REALLY HARD. AND WE SET STANDARDS. ACCORDING TO KYLE, SOME TIME AGO WE.

THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN MET AND THEY WEREN'T WASN'T MET LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO.

IT WAS NOT MET FOUR YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, MR. SPADY, THIS ISN'T LIKE MOST MUNICIPAL DISTRICTS WHERE IT'S GOVERNED BY A GROUP OF OF SIX PEOPLE ON A BOARD.

WE ARE TRULY GOVERNED BY OUR ELECTORATE. WE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY, AND WE DO WHAT THEY TELL US TO DO.

WE HOLD TOWN HALLS, WE GO DOOR TO DOOR. I SHOW UP TO PEOPLE'S HOUSES THAT ARE COMPLAINING ON FACEBOOK AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS. AND THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TOLD THAT WE NEED TO DO, THAT WE NEED TO CLEAN THE CITY UP.

SO IT'S NOT YOU NECESSARILY TALKING TO US WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING.

YOU'RE YOU'RE HEARING, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL THOUSAND VOICES CHANNELED THROUGH EACH OF OUR MOUTHS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR OPINION. IT'S THEIR OPINION COMING OUT OF OUR MOUTH.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I'M NOT MAKING ANY EXCUSES.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS PROPERTY FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS THEY WERE HAPPY THAT I CLEANED UP THE LOT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOATS.

I HAD TO PAY FOR ABOUT 90 TIRES TO GET DISPOSED OF.

SO SO I'VE DONE A LOT TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY.

SO NOW THERE'S NOT SNAKES AND RATS EVERYWHERE.

SO LISTEN, I'VE HAD A ROUGH FEW YEARS TURNING THE CORNER NOW, SO JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE TIME.

THAT'S IT. SO. AND I'LL GLADLY COME BACK IN THREE MONTHS TO STAND BEFORE YOU, EXCEPT FOR WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO.

AT THAT POINT, YOU GET A COPY OF YOUR WINDSTORM CERTIFICATE ONLINE.

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SO THERE ARE NO WINDSTORM? NO, THEY THEY DO IT IN PHASES.

SO YOU MENTIONED THE FRAMING. THEY HAVEN'T INSPECTED THE FRAMING YET.

THEY, BECAUSE WE WERE ADDING THE TWO SMALL ADDITIONS.

SO THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT AFTER THAT. SO WHICH IS THE NEXT PHASE.

THEY WERE JUST OUT THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR THE, THE FOUNDATION, THE THE ANCHORS.

SO SO YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY DO IT IN PHASES. SO THEY HAVEN'T DONE THE, THE FRAMING YET.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT A COUPLE PIECES HE WANTED ME TO REPLACE.

SO A COUPLE RAFTERS, BUT YEAH, BUT HE, SO THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT PHASE OF IT YET.

IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A WINDSTORM INSPECTION ON.

THE FLOORING AND THE ANCHORS THAT ARE TIED TO IT WITHOUT THE FRAME BEING TIED TO THAT.

AND I KNOW THIS. YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW? BECAUSE I USED TO BUILD HOUSES.

OKAY. SO HE, HE, HE TOLD ME HE WANTED TO DO IT THAT WAY.

SO HE CAME OUT. SO I HAD THE FOUNDATION DONE FIRST ON THE MAIN HOUSE.

THAT WAS ONE PART THAT HAD AN INSPECTION DONE THAT WAS BY A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON.

THEN THE WINDSTORM INSPECTOR CAME OUT AND MEASURED BEFORE WE POURED FOR THE PIERS.

AND THEN HE SAID I SENT HIM THE PICTURES HE WANTED.

THEY WANTED TO ANCHOR A CERTAIN DEPTH. I DID IT.

HE CAME OUT AND LOOKED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE ALL THE REBAR AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANTED IN THERE.

SO THAT'S HOW HE WANTED TO DO IT. HE'S DONE, YOU KNOW, TWO INSPECTIONS.

AND HE SAID, AS SOON AS WE GET THE TWO EDITIONS FRAMED UP BEFORE WE SHEATHE IT, HE WANTS TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT.

SO SO THAT'S HOW HE'S DOING IT. I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW, NEVER HAD A WINDSTORM INSPECTION DONE.

THIS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME. SO. IS THAT TYPICAL KYLE? DID YOU KNOW IF GRANTED I WILL NOT A WINDSTORM ENGINEER.

LOOKING AT IT, I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED EVERYTHING FROM THAT ENGINEER.

I MEAN, JUST FROM SEEING SO MANY HOMES, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NEW HOMES.

I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST OLDER.

I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED ALL THE ENGINEERING TO SAY ALL THAT ROOF RAFTERS AND ALL THAT OR WINDSTORM.

I THINK THAT THE ENGINEER WOULD COME OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND GO, HEY, YOU ONLY HAVE HALF A ROOF.

WHY WOULD HE? IT IS WASTE HIS TIME. I SAY BACKWARDS, NOT TOTALLY BACKWARDS.

THE LADY SAID IF HE'S DOING IT DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT HOW YOU.

UNCONVENTIONAL. IT'S UNCONVENTIONAL AT BEST. AND YOU HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION ON.

FROM WINDSTORM ABOUT ANYTHING, A REPORT OR ANY PAPERWORK FOR WHAT HE'S DONE SO FAR.

I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE I HAVE THE INSPECTION REPORT THAT HE'S DONE.

THEY EMAIL IT TO YOU? I BELIEVE SO I, I DIDN'T THINK TO BRING IT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM. AM I SUPPOSED TO GIVE THAT TO YOU? WELL, SOME DO NOT IF IT'S JUST EVERY TIME HE'S COMING.

I MEAN, HE'S COMING FROM MISSOURI CITY. BUT SOME WE DO.

THEY'LL TURN IN ALL THEIR REPORTS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS MET.

I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF HIS REPORTS. I MEAN, I'LL KIND OF MIMIC WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SARTIN SAYS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ELECTED BY THE CITIZENRY.

THEY WANTED THIS TOWN CLEANED UP. THEY WANTED SOME SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURES TAKEN CARE OF AND CLEANED UP.

WE'VE HELD OTHER PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT FOR YEARS.

SEEMS VERY GENEROUS TO ME. SO I HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO GRANT MORE LENIENCY BECAUSE THEN IT LIKE COUNT.

MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND SAID, IT STARTS TO SET A PRECEDENT OF WHAT WE CAN AND WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE WILLING NOT TO DO.

SO, KYLE, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THERE WERE THREE THREE HOUSES THAT WERE DECLARED SUBSTANDARD BACK IN 22 OF THOSE THREE. THIS IS THE ONLY ONE STILL STANDING, CORRECT? YES, THERE WAS THREE.

ONE WAS DEMOED, ONE ON NORTH ARCOLA. THEY FINISHED THEIR PROGRESS REPORT AND HAVE MOVED INTO

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THAT LONG AGO. THE ONE WAS DEMO AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT ADDRESS.

THE ONE OVER HERE OFF OF RYAN? NO. WAS IT FAIR? FAIR? IT WAS ONE TWO. BUT I KNOW THAT RYAN OFF BRYAN STREET AT THE CORNER.

HE TOOK THAT HOUSE DOWN. YEAH. I DON'T REMEMBER.

RIGHT OFF THE TOP, THERE WAS THREE. AND FAIR HAS COME DOWN.

YES. YEAH. YES. ARCOLA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL STANDS THAT WAS ACTUALLY RENOVATED ACCORDING TO THE.

YES. THEY MOVED IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I GUESS.

ALSO, I CAN'T MAKE AN ACTION. I WANT TO GIVE SOME TIMELINE BEFORE WE MOVE TO ACTION.

IT'S BEEN A FIVE AND A HALF YEARS. NOT JUST FOR.

THIS IS THE TRANSCRIPT FROM THE MAY 24TH, 2022 MEETING THAT WAS DISCUSSING THIS THAT SET FORTH THE SIX MONTH PLAN THAT KYLE READ FROM EARLIER. IN JANUARY OF 2021, HE WAS CONTACTED.

AND THEN LET ME GET MY PLACE. ONE SECOND, I APOLOGIZE.

CONTACTED AGAIN BY APRIL OF 2021. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FOUNDATION GUY COME AND LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE AND GIVE AN ANSWER BY APRIL 16TH, 2021 ON WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO. AND HERE WE ARE A YEAR LATER WITH JUST THE TARP ON THE ROOF.

2022. THERE WAS A CERTIFIED LETTER FEBRUARY 2021 CALL ON APRIL 13TH, 2021. HANDWRITTEN WARNING. DECEMBER 2021 CITATION.

FEBRUARY 2022. APRIL 25TH, 2022. CERTIFIED LETTER THAT WE WERE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MAY 2022 WAS WHEN WE GAVE THE SIX MONTH PLAN.

AND HERE WE ARE FOUR YEARS LATER. WE HAVE DEALT WITH IT, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE.

I JUST READ THE PROGRESS REPORT FROM 22. WE HAD DEALT WITH IT BEFORE.

WE HAD HAD HEAD MOWING CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR MOWING.

I THINK HE STILL HAS THE CITATION IN COURT AS OF TODAY.

THAT CITATION ISSUE. BUT DID YOU JUST SAY THAT THAT THERE'S A THERE'S AN ACTIVE CITATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF ON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO THAT THAT CITATION WAS ISSUED IN DECEMBER AFTER I PULLED THE PERMIT? I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY HAVE PUT IT ON HOLD UNTIL WE DECIDE HERE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.

SO. THE CITATION WAS WROTE TO COURT, BASICALLY.

PERMITS PULLED. NO, I GOT THE CITATION AFTER THE PERMITS WERE PULLED.

BUT I MEAN, WE CAN CHECK ON THAT. I KNOW HE HAS.

I THINK IT WAS HIS COURT DATES THURSDAY FOR THAT.

YEAH. AND WHAT'S IT FOR. OKAY. SO IN DECEMBER I MEAN YOU CAN LOOK IT UP.

BUT THAT'S ALL I'M WILLING TO GIVE AT THIS POINT.

I THINK IF I WAS YOUR NEIGHBOR AND I WAS WATCHING ONLINE.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANT A SHORT LEASH. WAS THE NOTIFICATION ON THIS BEING SENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS? OR NOTIFICATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPERTY?

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NO, NOT ON A PUBLIC HEARING. I THINK THAT WAS ASKED ON THE OTHER ONE.

NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SENT. OKAY. FOR LIKE A REZONE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE 200FT.

WHAT WAS IT? YOU DON'T HAVE. WAS IT SENT ANY LIENHOLDERS OR MORTGAGEES? THAT'S ALSO NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT, BUT SOME.

YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO DO ONE OF THESE.

YOU HAVE THE OWNER, THEN.

WE HAVE BEEN GIVING TIME AND TIME AND TIME. ALL THE OTHER ACTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE 2022 HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE. AND. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT MONEY INVESTED IN THIS BUILDING STRUCTURE.

I FEEL LIKE CERTAIN CONDITIONS NEED TO BE MET. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE WINDSTORM CERTIFICATION.

YOU NEED TO HAVE THIS THING DRIED IN. AND WHEN I DRAW, THE DEFINITION OF DRIED IN WOULD BE A ROOF WITH ROOF WITH THE SIDING DOORS, WINDOWS IN. AND YOU. SO I WAS GETTING 90 DAYS. BUT WE CAN'T YOU CAN'T DO MORE THAN 90 DAYS.

THE ONLY WAY TO GO MORE THAN 90 IS IF YOU HAD SUBMITTED A PLAN ALREADY.

SO WE CAN'T. I THINK IF YOU CAN SHOW THAT SUBSTANTIAL ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN IN THOSE 90 DAYS, COUNCIL WOULD BE MORE WILLING. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF THINKING IT'S.

TRYING TO GET THERE AND WE CAN REQUEST CERTAIN MILESTONES.

SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO GIVE OVER 30 DAYS, THEN WE ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE HIM A SCHEDULE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED OF PERFORMANCE AND, AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY THE WHATEVER THE DATE, THE LAST DATE IS. AND THAT LAST DATE CAN'T BE ANY MORE THAN 90 DAYS.

OTIS. PAUL. WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING WE DISCUSSED FOR SURE.

CLOSE IT IN FOR THE 90 DAYS. YES. COME BACK! DOES THAT MEAN THE CITATION GOES AWAY OR DOES THE CITATION STAY? CITATIONS FOR SUBSTANDARD BUILDING. RIGHT. WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

I WOULD HAVE TO ASK COURT ON THAT. THAT SHOULDN'T GO AWAY.

BUT IT SHOULDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS STILL SUBSTANDARD.

AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT I'D LIKE THE CITATION BE RESOLVED.

YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO ARGUE THAT COUNCIL GAVE HIM PERMISSION TO EXTEND IT.

WAS THAT ALLOWING HIM TIME TO REPAIR DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE NOT DECLARING IT.

YOU CAN STILL DECLARE IT AS A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING NOW.

AND AND THE CONSEQUENCES WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS AMOUNT OF TIME TO REPAIR AND MEET IT.

WON'T STOP THEM FROM ARGUING. SO.

NONI TANNER, IN YOUR EXPERT OPINION, IS 90 DAYS REASONABLE? COULD IT BE DONE IN 60? DEFINE REASONABLE. I MEAN, HERE'S IF I WAS A NEIGHBOR.

I'M AN ANGRY NEIGHBOR. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH, I'M A NEIGHBOR.

I MEAN, YES, I LIVE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.

THIS RIGHT HERE AND EXTENDING THIS AND NOT DEMOING IT IS US NOT DOING WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. AGREED. AND. I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE DILAPIDATED SUBSTANDARD UNSAFE STRUCTURE AT 320 WEST SPEECH WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

I SECOND THAT. AND YOU STOLE IT FROM ME. BUT GOOD JOB.

I'M SORRY. SORRY, MR. SPADY. THIS IS IT'S. WE'VE DONE THIS, AND WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN A LOT OF THESE A LOT OF THESE STRUCTURES THAT WE'VE SEEN HAVE HAVE FOLLOWED THE SAME PATH THAT YOURS HAS OVER TIME.

AND THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN TIME. AND THEN THEY'VE COME TO US AND ASKED US FOR MORE TIME TO DO SOMETHING.

AND IN EVERY INSTANCE WE HAVE SAID, ABSOLUTELY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

AND BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A LENGTH OF TIME PRIOR TO THAT YOU'RE NOT A CITIZEN OF ANGLETON.

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WE ALL ARE. THIS IS THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU CALL HOME.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO I'M, I'M PERSONALLY, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR ALL OF US. I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW NON CITIZENS TO, TO COME IN HERE AND LEAVE A MESS LIKE THIS. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOT WHILE I'M HERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHERE I AM.

I'M ACTUALLY AND WHEN I SAY THIS WILL MIGHT BE THE HOUSE I MOVE INTO BECAUSE I'M BECAUSE OF MY DIVORCE, I'M ORDERING THAT. SO I GET IT. I'M NOT TAKING THIS PERSONALLY AT ALL.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A JOB TO DO. I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T LIKE WE DON'T LIKE THIS KIND OF STUFF.

WE REALLY DON'T. I GET IT. JUST ASKING FOR 90 DAYS.

90 DAYS. I'M NOT WHERE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE. YOU'RE NOT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TODAY.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN BRING ANY. YOU DIDN'T BRING ANY DOCUMENTATION. YOU DON'T HAVE A CHECK WRITTEN. THERE'S NOTHING FROM EDP.

I THINK YOU SAID WHOEVER IN IN MISSOURI CITY SHOWING THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED ANY INSPECTIONS.

THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP HERE AND SAID, LOOK, THIS IS THE PROGRESS I'VE MADE. THESE ARE THE ENGINEERING REPORTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. NOT KNOWING THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED TO BRING THAT.

I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT. I'D HAVE BROUGHT I'D HAVE BROUGHT EVERYTHING. I HAD RECENTLY WORKED ON AN ADDITION TO THIS ON THE BACKGROUND SIDE.

BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT FRAMED UP. I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, BUT YOU SPENT TIME AND EFFORT ON THAT, BUT NOT THIS. NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS A LOT OF WORK.

I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE SHEATHING ON THE OUTSIDE.

YOU DON'T SEE WHAT'S IN THE ROOF. IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE SHEATHING.

I MEAN, IT'S SHEATHING AND SHINGLES, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK I EXPRESSED MYSELF PRETTY CLEARLY BEFORE.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN LOOK WITH SINCERITY AND HONESTY AND SAY, I HAVE MADE REASONABLE PROGRESS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

IT'S JUST FOUR YEARS IS DEFINITELY NO. I UNDERSTAND YOU WENT THROUGH SOME HARDSHIPS.

YEAH, FIVE AND A HALF. WE'VE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL SAYS MUCH LONGER.

HER RECORDS SUGGEST ALL THE WAY BACK FIVE YEARS.

THE MAYOR MAKES A CASE THAT ALL THE OTHER STRUCTURES THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN 2022 HAVE EITHER STEPPED UP OR ACTIONS TOOK PLACE. YOU MAY BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR, AND YOU MAY BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU HERE, BUT NOT IN THAT HOUSE.

AND SO I JUST I THINK WE'RE PAST THE BREAKING DOWN THAT STRUCTURE.

IT'S NOT A HOUSE. I EVEN SAID THAT EARLIER, BUT IT'S JUST NOT.

WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD, IN MY OPINION.

AMPLE TIME HAS BEEN PROVIDED. STANDARDS WEREN'T EVEN CLOSE TO BEING MET.

WHEN DID THE NOTICE TO APPEAR GO OUT? GO OUT TO HIM FOR THIS? ANYBODY KNOW? I THINK IT WAS MAY 8TH. FIFTH. MAY 5TH.

YOU'VE HAD A MONTH AND A HALF. YOU COULD HAVE.

YOU COULD HAVE HAD THAT THING WELL ON ITS WAY TO COMPLETION WITHIN 45 DAYS.

I'VE BUILT AN ENTIRE HOUSE, 3000FT² IN 45 DAYS.

IF I COULD AFFORD YOU. KNOW CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN 45 DAYS. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR TOWNSEND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

DECLARING THIS A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING IN 30 DAYS.

IS THAT ABOUT ACCURATE? COUNCIL. YES.

I HOPE THAT WITH THIS ACTION, YOU CAN STILL FIND SOME WAY OF BUILDING SOMETHING THERE.

BECAUSE THIS COMES DOWN DOESN'T MEAN. NOT WELCOME TO BUILD.

YOU ARE WELCOME TO BUILD THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE STRUCTURE.

STRUCTURE? DO.

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YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT HE WAS GIVEN 30 DAYS.

IN DECEMBER 8TH, 2021. HE WAS GIVEN 30 DAYS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN.

NOTHING WAS DONE. AND THEN MAY OF 2022 IS WHEN WE GAVE THE FINAL SIX MONTHS TO DO SOMETHING AS WELL. SO THIS IS NOT A DECISION TAKEN LIGHTLY.

I DO BELIEVE A PLAN WAS SENT IN AND THAT 30 DAYS I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

I BELIEVE A PLAN WAS SENT IN IN THAT 30 DAYS.

BUT I MEAN YES, YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THERE WAS SIX MONTHS AND YOU HAD A SIX MONTH TIMELINE.

I HAVE THE PLAN RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. AND IT WAS TO BEGIN IN JULY 1ST, 2022 AND HAVE INTERIOR FINISHES OCCUPANCY BY DECEMBER 31ST OF 2022. SO AS I WAS SAYING, THIS DECISION IS NOT ONE THAT WE ARE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

BUT TIME WAS GIVEN AND TIME WAS TAKEN.

OFF OF THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action on approving Order No. 20260623-006 finding and declaring the property located at 105 North Rock Island, Angleton, Brazoria County, Texas 77515, and the structure thereupon to be a public nuisance and substandard and ordering the abatement of the public nuisance conditions and the demolition and removal of the structure; providing for for amendment; and providing for severability. ]

ITEM SIX. PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING ORDER NUMBER 20260623-006.

FINDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 105 NORTH ROCK ISLAND COUNTY, TEXAS 77515 AND THE STRUCTURE THEREUPON TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE, SUBSTANDARD OR ABATEMENT OF PUBLIC NUISANCE OF THE STRUCTURE, PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

MAYOR. COUNCIL. 105 NORTH ROCK ISLAND APARTMENTS.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW HAD A FIRE HAS BEEN BOARDED UP FOR A WHILE.

WE HAVE BEEN IN. THERE WAS NO PROGRESS. WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT. THEY WERE GOING TO FIX THEM. REPAIR THEM, WHICH IS FINE.

ALL WE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A WHILE BACK WAS, WELL IT JUST SHOWS WE'RE GOING TO REPAIR THEM, REPLACE SWITCHES, REPLACE THIS, THIS AND THESE UNITS.

AND I EXPLAINED, I KNOW I WAS EMAILING A LADY.

WHAT WE WOULD NEED, YOU KNOW, HAD A PRETTY GOOD FIRE DEPARTMENT'S TWO STORY.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED ENGINEERED PLANS AND EVERYTHING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REBUILD OF THE APARTMENTS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY ON THESE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. OPEN PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. CLOUD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YES. DID YOU SAY CLOUD OR.

I DIDN'T I NEVER TOLD YOU MY NAME. OH, YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS. BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO GO AHEAD AND UP THERE AND THEN.

ANYWAY MY NAME IS ANTONIO CATILLO. I'M A BUILDER GC FROM HOUSTON, AND I HELPED THIS COMPANY PRIOR TO INVESTOR LOANS WITH PROBLEM PROPERTIES.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I DO OTHER THAN MY STUFF.

AND I BEEN AT ROCK ISLAND, I'VE WALKED THAT WHOLE PROPERTY REALLY CLOSE AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING.

I'VE HAD AN ENGINEER OUT THERE, I'VE HAD SOME BUYERS OUT THERE, I'VE OPENED IT UP, WALKED IT, INSPECTED IT AND SUCH. THEY HAD A FIRE. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, THE 2 OR 3 APARTMENTS UPSTAIRS CAUGHT ON FIRE. THEN OF COURSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WENT IN THERE.

THE WATER DAMAGED FIVE BELOW IT. IN THAT CORNER, THE BOTTOMS ARE JUST TOTALLY MOLDED.

THE UPSTAIRS ARE CHARRED. BEING A BUILDER, I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED IN ALL THIS, THESE PEOPLE HERE.

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AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY TELL ME THAT THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO YOU OR HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THEM.

THEY GIVE ME A LITTLE HISTORY HERE AND THERE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT I HAD TO GET INVOLVED WITH.

SO THE PROPERTY ITSELF, THEY THEY'RE GOT AN INSURANCE CLAIM.

OKAY. AND THEY'RE FIGHTING WITH AN INSURANCE COMPANY.

THE INSURANCE COMPANY SAYS ONE THING. AND OF COURSE, WE HAD AN INDEPENDENT ADJUSTER GO OUT THERE AND SAY ANOTHER THING.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE NUMBER IS LOWER THAN THE OTHER NUMBER. AND BASICALLY IT'S JUST A FIGHT.

SO ABOUT, I GUESS MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, THEY FINALLY FOUGHT A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE INSURANCE COMPANY.

AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY HAS RECEIVED IT. THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED IT.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING SOMETIME THIS COMING UP WEEK.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD TODAY. AS FAR AS PERMIT, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN PULL A PERMIT FOR A DEMO PERMIT.

I BELIEVE WE MIGHT BE ABLE. I WAS JUST HERE. LET ME VERIFY THAT.

BUT YOU PULLED A DEMO PERMIT, AND WITH THE INTENTION OF JUST GOING AND CLEANING OUT THE UNITS AND, YOU KNOW, STABILIZING A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT THERE AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE.

I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING $1 MILLION IN DAMAGES ON THAT BUILDING.

HE'S. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DISCONNECT WAS, BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT'S COMING DOWN TO IS THEY HAD A FILE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE INSURANCE COMPANY, AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS FIGHTING THEM ON IT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FIX THE BUILDING. NOT RIGHT AT THE MOMENT.

THERE'S VALUATIONS ON THE PROPERTY. IF YOU WERE TO DEMO IT, THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE OF AROUND A MILLION ON IT AND, AND LOSE ANOTHER $977,000. THAT WAS FLAT. SO YOU'RE ALMOST PLUS WHATEVER YOU CHARGE THEM TO DAMAGE THE BUILDING.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $2 MILLION LOSS.

AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN RECOVER FROM IT.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THAT I'M HERE AND I'M A BUILDER.

OTHER THAN BOARDING IT UP, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU TO SO WE DON'T DEMO IT? ON PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. NO.

NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM. WE ARE STILL IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION. YOU'RE MISTER CLOUD, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. MOST OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS ON THE NEXT ITEM THAT Y'ALL HAVE LISTED ON THE VELASCO SQUARE APARTMENTS, BUT IT ALSO CAN PERTAIN TO THE PROPERTY AT 105.

ROCK ISLAND. SO THAT'S ALL REALLY, I HAVE TO SAY.

AND THEN WHEN I GO THROUGH MY PRESENTATION. ON THE OTHER, YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU THINK.

THAT'S IT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE? MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. MOTION. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES OUT A PUBLIC HEARING.

KYLE. WE I WAS JUST I MEAN, IT'S GOOD INFORMATION HE BROUGHT TODAY.

WHAT THEY SUBMITTED NOT LONG AGO WAS IT WAS GOING TO COST THEM 50,000 PER UNIT, WHICH IS WAY LESS THAN A MILLION.

BUT GOOD INFORMATION. IT CAN'T STAY BOARDED UP FOREVER, IS IT? THAT'S LIKE A ONE YEAR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED.

YOU HAVE A FIRE. I KNOW THERE'S INSURANCE. WE DEALT WITH THEM WITH OTHER BUILDINGS IN TOWN. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS USUALLY A FIGHT WITH INSURANCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO MOVE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT CAN'T JUST SIT BOARDED UP FOR THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS.

NO POWER ON. YOU KNOW, IT JUST INVITES OTHER ISSUES TOO.

AND I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY EARLIER WHEN THE FIRE WAS THAT 20, 20, 1524? WHAT WAS IT? EIGHT, 19240, WOW. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A COUPLE YEARS IN AUGUST.

HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN SECURELY BOARDED UP THAT TIME? NO, NO, IT TOOK A WHILE. LOVE. ANY ENTRY POINTS?

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NOW IT'S PRETTY WELL, IT'S BOARDED UP. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, POWER'S CUT AND EVERYTHING.

IT JUST INVITES. OTHER ISSUES. BUT, CHIEF, DOES THE PD RANDOMLY WALK THAT OR JUST DRIVE BY? WE DRIVE BY THERE JUST LOOKING UP HOW MANY CALLS OVER THERE SINCE THE FIRE.

BUT I KNOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CALLS OVER THERE SINCE THE FIRE FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW IN JUST A MINUTE. DID YOU SAY THINGS? I GUESS MY. FRUSTRATION IS. WHEN IT WAS NOT. WHEN BEFORE IT CAUGHT FIRE. THERE WERE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT COMPLEX CONDITION.

IT WAS IN MANY VISITS. I HAVEN'T STEPPED FOOT IN THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW, NOR DO I HAVE ANY PICTURES THAT SHOW ME WHAT THE INSIDES OF ANY OF EVEN THE BEST UNIT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. I SAW PICTURES OF IT WHEN IT WAS ON FOR SALE ON I BELIEVE IT WAS ON LOOPNET.

IT WAS LISTED FOR SALE BEFORE IT CAUGHT FIRE.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I HAD AND I HAD LOOKED AT PHOTOS OF IT AT THAT TIME, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AGAIN, PROBABLY EARLY, EARLY 24, LATE 23. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LISTING PRICE ON IT, BUT I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND.

MILLION TWO, I THINK. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? THERE'S NO I DON'T KNOW OF ANY PLAN OF ACTION.

WHAT THE WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW IT WOULD LOOK, WHAT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE MADE.

IF THE PLAN IS JUST TO FIX THE TWO BURNED APARTMENT UNITS, THAT'S THAT WAS.

YOU CAN COME BACK. I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE PLAN.

I WALKED THE PLAN, I WALKED. THE WHOLE BUILDING PLAN IS TO CLEAN UP EVERY UNIT.

HERE'S WHAT THEY SENT ME. OKAY, YOU'VE GOT PROBABLY SEVEN UNITS.

YOU GOT A PODIUM FOR ME, PLEASE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE GOT THREE UNITS THAT ARE TOTALLY BURNT OUT ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THE THE FLOOR JOIST BELOW AND THE FLOOR DECKING IS ACTUALLY HELD UP PRETTY WELL, CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT CHARRED BOARDS, NOT CHARRED FLOOR JOISTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT YOU LOOK UP TO THE CEILING.

SO THE THREE APARTMENTS UPSTAIRS HAVE TO BE TOTALLY JUST GUTTED, FRAMING TAKEN DOWN, ROOF TAKEN OFF, COMPLETELY REBUILT. AND THEN THE ROOF HAS TO BE REPLACED.

THE BOTTOM UNITS, ALL THE DRYWALL HAS TO COME OUT.

ALL OF IT HAS ALL HAS TO BE MOLD REMEDIATED, COMPLETE.

AND THEN IT HAS TO BE ALL TREATED AND HAS TO BE REBUILT BACK TOGETHER.

THE REST OF THE UNITS, THEIR OLD UNITS, THEY NEED UPDATED ELECTRICAL, YOU KNOW, OUTLETS AND LIGHT FIXTURES AND CABINETS NEED REPAIR. YEAH, SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE THAT, AND SOME OF THEM DON'T.

SOME OF THEM ARE STILL FULL OF PEOPLE'S BELONGINGS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE WALKED EVERY UNIT. THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT IN THAT SHAPE.

THOSE WERE THE PICTURES. EVEN THE NICEST ONES. NOT QUITE THAT THAT NICE.

BUT IT WOULDN'T TAKE A LOT TO CLEAN THOSE UP.

SO LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST. I'M BEING TRUTHFUL.

WHAT, WHAT IS THERE, YOU KNOW I WROTE THAT SCOPE THAT HE HANDED YOU THERE.

I WROTE THAT SCOPE AND AN ESTIMATE BASED ON JUST MY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO FIX IT.

THE INDEPENDENT ADJUSTER CAME IN AND HE WAS LIKE 930,000 FOR HIS NUMBER.

AND THE BANK WAS AT, I MEAN, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AT 570,000.

OKAY. NOW THERE'S SOME UNKNOWNS IN THAT QUOTE.

THAT'S RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE AT THE AGE OF THE BUILDING, OKAY, IT MAY HAVE UNDERGROUND UNDERGROUND SEWER PIPES THAT ARE CAST IRON.

I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT TO BRING THAT, IF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE. THE AIR CONDITIONERS, THE AIR CONDITIONERS, THEY HAD A WINDOW UNIT BASICALLY IN THE BACK OF THAT EVENT THROUGHOUT THE APARTMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IT WITH CURRENT CODES.

THE ELECTRICAL, ALL THAT'S GOT TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT CODES, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE DISCONNECTS FOR ANY OF THE OLD FPE BOXES IN THE BACK.

I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED REALLY CLOSE AT IT AND THERE'S JUST THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

SO THE 550,000 OR WHATEVER I HAVE THERE IS NOT COUNTING THOSE THINGS AND NOT COUNTING ANY ADDITIONAL CODE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE HERE, INCLUDING WINDSTORM BECAUSE OF THE STORMS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

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I MEAN, I WAS A BUILDER IN FLORIDA. I KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT.

AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO SIT IN HOUSTON ALL THE TIME.

THIS ONE'S NOT A WINDSTORM CODE. WELL, I, WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE COAST WITH THE STORMS AND EVERYTHING BEING FREEPORT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THAT. SO I'M, I'M JUST EXPLAINING WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT THAT YOU GOT.

NOW, THE LADY AT THE OFFICE WOULD YOU TALK TO I BELIEVE WOULD HAVE BEEN JESSICA.

AND SHE IS NOT SHE'S NOT ME. SHE DOESN'T KNOW THIS AND THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING AND THEY'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HANDED A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES BACK BECAUSE OF THE MARKET AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO COMBAT ALL THAT, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE IT'S AT.

I KNOW WHAT THE OCCUPANCY WAS WHEN IT WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF OCCUPANCY WHENEVER IT CAUGHT FIRE.

DO I KNOW? NO, SIR. I WASN'T, I WASN'T WORKING FOR THEM WHEN IT CAUGHT FIRE.

DO YOU REMEMBER? YES. SIR.

IF IT'S 50%, THE REPAIRS OF THE VALUE OF IT, THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TO CODE INSIDE THAT RED SQUARE.

SO THAT'S JUST THE THE CODE. AND THERE IS AN OUTSTANDING CITATION IN COURT RIGHT NOW FOR SUBSTANDARD.

SO JUST ME LOOKING AT THIS, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE.

AND I'M GUESSING YOU ARE. AND I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AS THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO COME IN AND RENOVATE THE FACILITY.

I DON'T KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT RENOVATING IT AS OVERSEEING IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. OKAY. MY OWN STUFF THAT I'VE GOT BECAUSE I BUILT IN RIVER OAKS AND PLACES LIKE THAT.

SO IF I'VE GOT TIME, SIR. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.

IF. I'M NOT DIRECTLY HANDS ON INVOLVED WITH IT, I'LL OVERSEE IT.

OKAY. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CODE UPGRADES. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

THAT'S FINE. IT APPEARS TO ME. AND THIS IS THIS IS JUST ME LOOKING AT THIS, THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS WANTING TO SETTLE OUT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED BY THE FIRE AND NOT THE RESULTING COSTS OF BRINGING THE STRUCTURE UP TO CODE.

THAT'S AND THAT TO ME, THAT APPEARS WHERE THE FIGHT IS, IS THAT WE HAD THIS DAMAGE THAT HAS NOW PUT US IN A PICKLE AS FAR AS HAVING TO UPGRADE THE REST OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU'RE RIGHT. AND AND TO ME THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET SETTLED.

IT'S JUST IT COULD BE, YOU COULD BE RIGHT. I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN THE ADJUSTERS CAME OUT.

WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UPGRADED AND THE CODES BEING UPGRADED.

ANYTHING MORE THAN 50%, EVERYTHING HAS TO COME UP TO CURRENT CODES.

SO I PULL OUT THE BOOK AND SHOWED THEM TO EARL.

SHOWED THEM ALL THIS STUFF AND THE CODES. THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES.

I SHOWED THEM ALL OF THIS. SO WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AND THAT WAS THE REASON THEIR NUMBER CAME UP AS HIGH AS IT DID FROM MY NUMBER.

HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN THAT APARTMENT? EXCUSE ME.

HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN THAT? 20. 20. TEN. TEN.

THERE'S ALSO RAILINGS ON THE BUILDING THAT NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE. TWO EXTERIOR RAILINGS ON THE CODE OR NOT TO 42IN.

WELL, YOU'VE GOT 12 UNITS HERE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THREE, FOUR AND FIVE HERE ARE WATER DAMAGED AND 15 AND 16 ARE ALSO DAMAGED. SO IT'S BASICALLY EVERY I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE UNIT IN THE WHOLE PLACE.

WELL, THE ONES THAT GOT DAMAGED, THE WORST ARE THE FIVE.

THE REST OF THEM JUST NEED TO BE. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED UPGRADED ELECTRICAL.

THEY NEED ALL OF IT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU CAN WALK IN THEM.

THEY'RE NOT LIKE, THEY'RE NOT LIKE SUPER TERRIBLE. THEY'RE NOT GREAT EITHER. BUT THEN THERE'S SOME THAT PEOPLE LEFT EVERYTHING RIGHT, BUT STILL IN THEM. BUT BEING, BEING IN THE BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE IN, I MEAN, ISN'T THIS KIND OF THE,

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THE WAY OF THE WORLD? I MEAN, YOU CARRY INSURANCE.

I MEAN, I'VE HAD TO CLAIM INSURANCE ON A ON A HOUSE BEFORE.

AND NOW GRANTED, I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND BRING EVERYTHING UP TO UP TO A CODE BECAUSE UP TO CODE, BECAUSE IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, A SMALL PORTION.

SURE. BUT HAD IT BEEN THE INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ME A CHECK FOR THE DAMAGES AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON ME TO DEAL WITH THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE.

I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE MADE THAT ARGUMENT IN COURT OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

SURE. I MEAN, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE WAITING ON IS FOR THEM TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT NORMALLY.

YES. AND I'M NOT I'M NOT WISHING. I'M NOT WISHING NEGATIVE ON ANYBODY.

I'M JUST I'M JUST SPEAKING AS WHAT NORMALLY OCCURS IN THIS PROCESS AND IN THIS PROCESS.

I MEAN, IF THE IF THE INSURANCE COMPANY DID AWARD THEM MONEY TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, I'D SURE LIKE TO KNOW WHO THEY WERE INSURED BY BECAUSE I NEED TO GET A POLICY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THAT I HAD NEVER HEARD OF. I GET IT.

I, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. I UNDERSTAND 100%.

ALL I CAN DO IS THEY ASKED ME TO COME HERE AND PRESENT THIS, YOU KNOW, AND MEET WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT IT, DISCUSS IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. YEAH. I'M, I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THEY AND I, I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE, BUT I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT. THAT THEY PUT YOU IN A POSITION OF SPEAKING FOR THEM AS AS THE AS A BUILDER OUR SUPERINTENDENT, AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO WAS MORE IN MORE CLOSELY IN LINE WITH WITH THEIR FINANCIAL PLANS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THINGS.

I MEAN, I THINK IF I WAS CONCERNED WITH MY STRUCTURE, I'D PROBABLY SHOW UP.

THAT'S OKAY. WELL, I MEAN. THIS THIS ISN'T A STRIKE AGAINST YOU.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST PERCEPTION FROM THIS SIDE OF THE 100%.

AGREE. IF I WAS REALLY IF I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO.

I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO CAPSIZE MY MY MY INVESTMENT.

I'VE GOT $1 MILLION OR MORE, MAYBE $200 MILLION OR $2 MILLION RIDING ON IT.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN HERE. I'D BE PRETTY IMPORTANT TO BE HERE. AND THAT'S NOT YOU.

THAT'S. YEAH, I GET IT. YEAH. I'VE JUMPED A PLANE FOR LESS.

I, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO ECHO SOMETHING THAT KYLE SAID, AND THIS IS KIND OF OBVIOUS, BUT.

YOU GOT TO MOVE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, RIGHT? WE CAN'T JUST CONTINUE TO LET LANGUISH AND BOARD IT UP.

AND WHILE WE'RE NOT HAVING SIGNIFICANT ISSUES, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT COME ALONG WITH VAGRANT.

OR VACANT AND VAGRANCY. WE CHECK ON THE PROPERTY REGULARLY.

AT LEAST I HAVE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. AND I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY SQUATTERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S BOARDED UP AND LOCKED UP PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE I MADE SURE OF IT. SO COULD THERE BE ALWAYS.

YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO. IT'S GOT A LOW FENCE IN THE FRONT.

IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTED TO GET IN THERE NOW, THE GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET, THE REPAIR SHOP.

THAT GUY KEEPS HIS EYES ON IT, AND HE'S GOT MY PHONE NUMBER.

AND I TOLD HIM ALL I COULD DO IS TELL HIM TO CALL ME IF HE SEES SOMETHING.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, SO. BUT SAY IT COULD HAPPEN.

YEAH. IN MY EXPERIENCE IN BEING HERE ON THIS COUNCIL AND I'VE, I IMPLORE ANYBODY HERE TO CHIME IN, WHETHER KYLE OR THAT YOU ANYBODY SITTING SITTING HERE.

I'M ALWAYS, I'M ALWAYS I'M ALWAYS SURPRISED THAT THINGS GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE WIND UP HERE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL, NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, I HAVE YET TO SEE A SITUATION IN WHICH SOMEBODY HAS BEEN GIVEN ADDITIONAL TIME WHERE IT DIDN'T END UP IN A DEMOLITION ORDER, ULTIMATELY. IS THERE ONE THE ONE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE ARCOLA ONE.

HE KNEW WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO. HE LIVED IN THE RV IN THE BACK.

HE RENOVATED THE HOUSE AND HE MOVED BACK IN. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.

SO. SO ONE. IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THE LITIGATION ISSUE IS ONLY GOING TO BE ONLY CONTINUE.

IT MAY. I MEAN THERE'S THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW RIGHT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE FIGHTING OVER INSURANCE FOR WHAT COULD BE SOME PERIOD OF TIME.

AND THEN YOU GOT YOUR. YOU KNOW, FOR ALL WE KNOW, THAT COULD END UP IN A NATIONAL TRIAL LAWSUIT OR.

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WELL, NOBODY NOBODY CAN REALLY SIT HERE AND TELL YOU GUYS, HEY, IT'S GOING TO BE SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS. NOBODY THAT'S THAT'S YOU'RE MAKING MY POINT FOR ME. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE.

I'M JUST BEING UPFRONT. NO, I APPRECIATE IT. I'M JUST SAYING.

BUT MY THAT'S PART OF THE POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT IT ILLUSTRATES THAT.

THIS ISSUE WILL BE ONGOING AND BECAUSE OF THAT UNSETTLED INSURANCE PAYOUT, THE VALUE WHICH IS GOING TO BE DISPUTED, WHICH I MEAN. WHY SHOULD WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS ABOUT INSURANCE COMPANIES? BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT IT. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN EVALUATION OF THE SITUATION OF WHAT THE VALUE IS ON BEING. I THINK HE'S SPOT ON BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE INTENDING TO PAY FOR AND WHAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE IT. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A CYCLE OF THIS KIND OF.

I DON'T KNOW, HAMSTER ON A TREADMILL OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THAT THING, YOU KNOW, JUST RUN IT IN PLACE FOR A WHILE.

ONE WAY. DO.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK. JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THIS. THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE HERE ON THIS PAPER.

ARE YOU TRYING TO DO THEM NOW. NO I HAVEN'T. THEY HAVE NEVER GIVEN ME A GREEN LIGHT TO DO ANYTHING OR HIRE ANYBODY TO DO IT.

OR THEY HAVEN'T PROGRESSED AT ALL. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I WROTE SOME MONTHS AGO.

THEY STUCK IN THE BATTLE BETWEEN THE INSURANCE COMPANIES.

YEAH. I THOUGHT SOMEBODY TRIED TO PULL A PERMIT RECENTLY.

THEY HAD A THEY HAD A GENTLEMAN PULL A PERMIT FOR A DEMO BECAUSE THAT THEY FELT THAT IF THEY DID THAT IT WOULD BUY HIM SOME TIME, WHICH OF COURSE. AND THEY THEY COULD GET GET STARTED ON IT, AT LEAST GET IT DEMOED AND GET IT STABILIZED.

JUST THOSE ROOMS, JUST THOSE UNITS. YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THE TOP THREE FOR SURE.

I DON'T I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE BOTTOM FIVE, BUT I KNOW THEY WOULD GET THEY WERE GOING TO DEMO BECAUSE WE WE'VE GOT UNITS THAT ARE STILL THERE'S FURNITURE IN THEM.

THERE'S ALL KIND OF STUFF. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLEAN THEM ALL OUT, STABILIZE THEM.

YOU KNOW, THE THREE ON THE TOP, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEMOED. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU DEMO THREE, THEN YOU GOT TO SECURE THE SIDES OF TWO OTHERS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, IF YOU GO LEFT AND RIGHT.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE PLAN, BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED.

AND I'M GUESSING IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MONEY. WHEN WAS THIS MEETING? MEETING? WHEN DID YOU PUT YOUR PEN TO PAPER? YOUR ESTIMATE? I'M TRYING TO THINK HERE. I'M JUST DOING THIS OUT OF MEMORY.

SO WITH ME HERE, PROBABLY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACT.

6 TO 8 MONTHS AGO, MAYBE. OKAY. IT TELLS ME. YEAH, I KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. THEY SUBMITTED. I GOT THAT SUBMITTED IN THAT PLAN RIGHT THERE.

THE REMODEL. IS THAT WHAT YOU SUBMITTED? YEAH.

OKAY. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. I GOT I'VE GOT IT HERE ON MY PHONE SENT TO ME.

BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE NEEDED THE FIRST THING I WOULD HAVE NEEDED IS THE ASBESTOS SURVEY.

AND NOT. ON A DEMO. MARK COYLE AND THIS IS WHO. SCOPE OF WORK. TAX DATA. TAX INFORMATION.

THIS IS THAT. AND THIS.

I THINK. I'M NOT SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS BUT THE COMMERCIAL.

COMMERCIAL MODEL. OKAY. SO THERE IS A PERMANENT PLACE.

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AND THEN THE PARKING. I NEED THE ENGINEERING.

OH, YOU NEED ENGINEERING. OKAY. WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

SO THAT WAS OUR LAST COMMUNICATION, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY. THE OUTSIDE IS FULL BRICK. YES, ON THE BACK OF IT. EXCUSE ME. BACK OF IT. YEAH. BACK TO THE SIDE.

OKAY. YOU'RE RIGHT. BACK OF IT. SIDE. ALL. ALL THE.

ALL THE OTHER SIDES LIKE THAT. ALL BREAK UP. YEAH.

NO. WELL, THE SECOND FLOOR IS NOT. SECOND FLOOR IS SIDING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE, ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING.

AND THE BOTTOM FLOOR IS CORRECT. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY BRICK, THOUGH.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY BRICK, THOUGH.

MY MY THOUGHTS ON IT WERE THAT IT WAS THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY A OH.

WAS MY MIND ESCAPING ME RIGHT NOW? A VENEER? THANK YOU.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOESN'T. WELL, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE WINDOW SILLS AND THE THICKNESS OF THE BRICK THAT GOES AROUND THE WINDOWS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE FULL THICKNESS BRICK TO ME FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY DID. THEY DID THE WHOLE ALL AROUND THE WINDOWS AND THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.

AND THE BRICKS TWO AND 3/8 THICK BEFORE YOU GET TO THE WINDOW FRAME, THAT'S PROBABLY FULL BRICK, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE BACK SIDE, THE TOP FOUR IS CITED AS WELL.

NOW THEY HAD SOME APPARENTLY THEY RECITED IT BECAUSE IT HAD ALUMINUM SIDING AND THEN THEY PUT SOMETHING OVER THE TOP OF IT.

SO THE FIRE BROKE OUT. THE ALUMINUM SIDING EXPANDED SO YOU COULD SEE IT.

IT WAS BUILT IN THE 70S, I HAVE NO IDEA. 1963, 63, 1969, 63, 63. OH, WOW. I REMEMBER IT BEING THERE. THAT'S MAN.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO? OH, I, I KNOW, I KNOW.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE REBUILDING THE WHOLE THING FROM THE INSIDE OUT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I DON'T THINK YOU'LL BE DOING THAT. WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE DILAPIDATED, SUBSTANDARD, UNSAFE STRUCTURE AT 105 NORTH ROCK ISLAND WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILOR SARTIN, DECLARED A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING RENEWAL IN 30 DAYS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. THIS IS PROBABLY DOING THEM A FAVOR IN THE LONG RUN.

I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THE SOLUTION THEY WERE HOPING FOR, BUT COUNCILMAN SARTIN MENTIONED IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THEM TO BE HERE TO TALK. THEY WEREN'T HERE.

JUST PROVIDING FOR THE COMMITMENT TO THE CITIZENS THAT WE'VE SAID BEFORE THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE ACTION AND CLEAN UP THE CITY IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. BEING THAT THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS AND THERE'S NO TIMELINE.

IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER. I WISH THEM THE BEST THOUGH, AND I HOPE THEY CAN GET THEIR INSURANCE DEBATE SETTLED.

SO ARE YOU GOING TO GO? YOU'RE GOING TO. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE MYSELF. YOU ARE GOING TO DEMO THE BUILDING. THAT'S OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE NOT VOTED ON.

IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON FIRST. WE HAVEN'T VOTED YET.

VOTED YET? OH, SORRY. THAT IS THE MOTION BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MOVING ON TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN UPDATE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON SUBSTANDARD PROPERTY

[7. Update, discussion, and possible action on substandard property located at 708 North Velasco Street, for consideration of a renovation proposal for property that is subject to a council order of demolition. ]

LOCATED AT 708 NORTH VELASCO STREET, FOR CONSIDERATION OF A RENOVATION PROPOSAL FOR PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT TO A COUNCIL ORDER OF DEMOLITION.

YOU WANT TO GET US STARTED? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE VELASCO SQUARE APARTMENTS THAT HAD RECEIVED THE DEMO ORDER FROM VELASCO 708, I BELIEVE IT IS ADDRESS. MR. CLOUD HAD APPROACHED US. HE REHABS.

I WANT TO USE THE RIGHT WORD. A LOT OF HOUSES IN TOWN.

NOT SOME THAT HE'S DONE HERE. HE'S WORKING ON SOME NOW ON THE WEST SIDE.

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AND HE APPROACHED ABOUT GETTING ON THE AGENDA TO SEE ABOUT PURCHASING THE VELASCO SQUARE APARTMENTS AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL TO SEE ABOUT REHABBING. IT. AND OF COURSE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP.

KIND OF TALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. COME ON.

YOU CAN COME UP. BEFORE I START SPEAKING, I'M GOING TO LET YOU SEE SOME OF MY WORK AND LETTERS FROM AN ENGINEER LETTER FROM A LENDER THAT I USE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M NOT JUST SOMEBODY SAYING SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

SO.

IT'S THREE SEPARATE PACKETS. THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.