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          GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND 
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MAYOR. OH, YEAH. IT'S 6 O'CLOCK AND WE'RE GOING TO START OUR SECOND BUDGET MEETING. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY ALREADY ON THE LEFT THERE? YEP. YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT? ALRIGHT. IT IS 6 O'CLOCK. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. WE ARE MINUS ONE, BUT SHE WILL BE HERE SHORTLY. 
          THIS IS OUR SPECIAL. WHAT IS IT? SPECIAL MEETING, SPECIAL NIGHT, SPECIAL TIME. SO, ENJOY IT. I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. ANYBODY WANT TO DO THE INVOCATION? I'M GOING TO CHECK WITH OTIS. OTIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT? KEVIN, FATHER, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US AND ALLOWING US TO GET TOGETHER JUST ONE MORE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS AT HAND. WE ASK THAT ALL DECISIONS MADE WOULD BE DONE TO YOUR GLORY, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER OUR DECISION MAKERS AND GUIDE THEM IN THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE US TO GO. IN JESUS' NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, OTHERS. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GET RIGHT INTO IT. WELL, I GUESS. 
          BEFORE THAT, CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS TO THE COUNCIL. 
          HAVE YOU SEEN ANY? I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          GOING TO REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM 
          [1. Discussion and possible action on the Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Proposed budget book presentation and plan for balancing Fiscal Year 2027 budget pursuant to Chapter 102 of Texas Loal Government Code.]
NUMBER ONE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2026. 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET PRESENTATION AND PLAN FOR BALANCING FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 102 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. SUSIE, YOU WANT TO KICK US OFF? YES, MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL. THIS IS OUR SECOND BUDGET MEETING, AND I WILL JUST REITERATE WHAT WE FINISHED OFF SATURDAY. WHEN WE LEFT, WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE TWO AND A HALF PROPERTY TAX INCREASE WITH TWO POSSIBLE POSITIONS. 
          BETWEEN THEN AND NOW, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL, AND IT WAS LESS THAN WHAT I HAD PROJECTED. SO I DO HAVE THE AMOUNTS OR THE VALUES. IT WOULD GO WITH THE DIMINISHES RATE, THE 2.5, AND THE 3 CENT INCREASES. 
          I WILL BE PLUGGING THEM IN TO SHOW YOU WHAT AMOUNTS WILL BE IN THE POSITIVE BEFORE WE START GOING INTO THE BUDGETS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE. GATHERED, THIS WAY, YOU'LL HAVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN EXPENSE. THE DIMINUTIVENESS RATE IS .535996. COMPARED TO THE RATE THAT WE HAVE NOW, 515246. THAT IS A TWO CENT INCREASE. THE 685579 IS THE DIMINUTIVENESS RATE REVENUE. 
          I'M SORRY, THE DIMINUTIVENESS REVENUE. 
          AND WE ONLY HAVE A $93 POSITIVE. WELL, I'LL LET YOU FINISH, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. $93. GO AHEAD. IF WE DO A TWO-AND-A-HALF CENT INCREASE AND THAT 2.5 INCREASE IS ON THE RATE THAT IS NOW, TO THE 515, NOT TO THE DIMINISHES, TO THE RATE THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH WOULD BRING THE RATE TO 540246. IT WOULD GIVE YOU AN 84,079 REVENUE TO WORK WITH. 
          IF I PUT IN THE 3 CENT INCREASE TO THE TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE NOW, THE 51, WHICH WOULD BRING THE TAX RATE TO 545246, IT WOULD GIVE YOU 182,886. THE VOTER'S APPROVAL RATE THAT YOU CAN GO UP TO BEFORE GOING IS 561076. SO, AT 3 CENT INCREASE TO THE CURRENT TAX RATE, IT'S 54. SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT. 
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THE TWO POSITIONS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT WOULD BE ONE PERSON IN YOUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS GUARANTEED TO BE FUNDED 30% BY ABLC, AND ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON TO YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. BOTH OF THOSE WOULD COST YOU $94,000. SO NOW WE'LL BE LISTENING TO YOUR OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. 
          YOUR FIRST DEPARTMENT HEAD IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THAT IS NUMBER 35 IN YOUR GENERAL FUND. 
          I AM BITING AT THE BIT, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP QUIET FOR NOW. I'M GOING TO LET THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FINISH THEIR PRESENTATION, AND WE'LL GO BACK AND CIRCLE BACK TO BUSINESS DISCUSSION. HOT SEAT WITH THE RED MIC. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLEAD THE FIFTH SITTING THERE, BY THE WAY. 
          GOOD EVENING, MARY. I'M OTIS BRIGGS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. JUST TO GET STARTED, I THINK WE'RE HAVING A VERY BUSY PERIOD AT THIS TIME. JUST TO UPDATE YOU, IN TERMS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE SORT OF EXCITED. THE DEPARTMENT IS GETTING AN INFLUX OF CALLS AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, SOME OF WHICH ARE STARTING TO SEE. 
          SUCH AS ON YOUR TUESDAY'S AGENDA. STARTING WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OUT ON 523, THE NEW TRUCK STOP RIGHT AT THE EXIT OF 523. 
          YOU'LL SEE VERY SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS OF INCREASED TAX BASE FROM A RETAILING STANDPOINT. 
          SO THAT'S AN ANNEXATION REQUEST. YOU GET THOSE FROM TIME TO TIME. AS RECENTLY, YOU BROUGHT THAT ONE INTO THE CITY LIMITS. ALSO WITHIN THE GALASNICK AREA, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER BIG RETAIL IN TERMS OF ANOTHER TRUCK STOP. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE NOT THE MOST POPULAR USES, BUT THEY'LL BRING THINGS OFF THE HIGHWAY INTO THE CITY. 
          IN TERMS OF SPENDING FROM A RESTAURANT AND CONVENIENCE STANDPOINT. ALONG THE VELASCO CORRIDOR, WE ARE GIVEN INFLUX OF PERMITTING ALONG THOSE IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT. 
          SOME OF WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT, SOME HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED, SOME ARE ON THE WAY. BUT IN THOSE GENERAL AREAS, I THINK THESE MAGNETIC TYPE USES THAT WILL BE COMING WILL BE ENCOURAGEMENT FOR OTHERS TO COME IN AND REDEVELOP A LOT OF THOSE INFILL PROPERTIES. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO WITH THE NEW PORTAL SYSTEM. 
          IT'S OPERATING AT A HIGH VOLUME IN TERMS OF PERMITTING. WE'RE ABLE TO PROCESS REMOTELY, SERVICE REMOTELY. WE STILL GET AN INFLUX OF CALLS, BUT IT'S A LOT OF COORDINATION THROUGH THE PORTAL. IN TERMS OF A LOT OF ACTIVITY, REVIEWING FRONT AND BACK IN TERMS OF OUR STAFF. WE'RE UPDATING THE BUILDING CODES, ALL OF OUR ZONING CODES WHICH ARE PENDING. THESE ITEMS, I THINK, ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE STATE HAS HANDED DOWN SO MANY LAWS FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT THAT WE'LL BE UPDATING. SO THAT WOULD GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE STAFF TO INCREASE LICENSING. SO WE MAY BE COMING TO YOU IN ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO TO HELP US WITH SOME OF THOSE TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION OPPORTUNITIES TO KEEP US CURRENT. BUT WITH THE GLO GRANT, WE'RE OVERLAPPING THAT INTO THE NEXT PERIOD. SO THAT'S HELPING US WITH THE NEW COMP PLAN. YOU'LL HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT'LL RESULT FROM THAT. 
          WHERE A LOT OF YOUR PRIORITIES WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH INTO THE TABLE. AND THEN THE COST TO UPDATE THE ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL, IS FUNDED UNDER THAT GRANT. SO IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET, AND I THINK SUSIE PROBABLY HAS IT UP BY NOW, WE ARE IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET PLANNING TO OPERATE UNDER THE SAME SPENDING LEVEL AS WE DID. IN 26, SO THERE ARE NO REQUESTS BEFORE YOU IN TERMS OF NEW INCREASES TO THE BUDGET. I KNOW YOU LIKE THAT. BUT, HOWEVER, WORKING WITH SUSIE, WE FOUND A WAY TO OPERATE ON, LIKE I SAID, THAT LEVEL. AND MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND TO ADJUST WITH SOME OF THE TRAININGS THAT WE NEEDED TOWARD THE END OF THIS YEAR, SO WE DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES THERE. 
          ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, AND MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN RECENTLY, IS THE SUBSTANTIVE STRUCTURES, THE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED. SO WE ARE WORKING, AND KYLE AND THE INSPECTORS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THOSE LANDOWNERS. 
          TO MAKE THOSE SELF-DEMOS IN TERMS OF HOPEFULLY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WILL END UP BEING SELF-DEMOLITIONS. BECAUSE THE 
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COST SEEN BY THOSE OWNERS, I THINK, IS A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT OUR ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. ONE IS IN LITIGATION, AS YOU KNOW, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUT THOSE OUT. THE LIST IS GROWING. WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR, I THINK, COMING TO YOU AGAIN. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO STALL THEM A LITTLE BIT. 
          UNTIL WE TAKE CARE OF THE SIX OR SEVEN FUNDS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. BUT WE DO SEE THAT AS AN INCREASED BUDGET LINE ITEM, THAT WE HAVE TO FRONT THIS MONEY AND NOT BECOME A COLLECTION AGENCY. 
          IN SO MANY WORDS. 
          BUT WE'LL WORK WITH LEGAL TO FIND WAYS IN WHICH OTHER COMMUNITIES MAY BE WORKING THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM TO PROMOTE OR PUSH PEOPLE TO PAY BACK THESE FUNDS TO THE CITY IF WE WERE TO FRONT THE COST TO DEMO THESE ITEMS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER ACCOUNT THAT WE MAY IN THE FUTURE, WANT TO LOOK AT. AS YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2023 TO 2024, I THINK THE COUNCIL SORT OF ZEROED THAT ACCOUNT. SO OUR CONTRACTING LABEL HAS A LITTLE STRAIN ON IT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT OUR CURRENT LEVEL. BUT JUST TO KIND OF PRE-WARN YOU OF THAT, THAT MIGHT BECOME AN ISSUE. 
          NOTICE ON THE CONTRACT LABEL, THAT'S NOT ALL JUST DEMO, RIGHT? CONTRACT LABEL WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, FROM TIME TO TIME, WE CALL IN A BUILDING INSPECTOR FROM TIME TO TIME TO ASSIST US WITH PERMITTING. BUT THAT'S ON THE RARE OCCURRENCE, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT. I'M TRYING TO THINK. ANY OTHER TYPE OF CONTRACT RELATED EXPENSE WOULD COME OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT. AND THEN THIS IS PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU, BUT FOR SUSIE. WHAT IS THE TREND? SO I KNOW WE ZEROED OUT THAT LINE ITEM DURING THE BUDGET SHORTFALL, BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT A TREND OF THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING ON AVERAGE FOR DEMOS? BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE MANY, RIGHT? AND THEN THE ONES THAT WE DO, MOST OF THE TIME, AS YOU SAID, ARE BEING DONE BY THE INDIVIDUALS THEMSELVES. 
          AND THE MAJORITY OF THE ONES YOU PROBABLY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN RESIDENTIAL. 
          YES, WHICH IS MUCH CHEAPER. 
          CURRENT APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL, THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. RIGHT. AND THEN WE DO HAVE ONE COMMERCIAL. 
          BUT THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, YOU'RE CORRECT, SOME OF THEM ARE SO TORN AND WORN DOWN THAT THE COST IS MINIMAL TO THE CITY. YES, SIR. I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO JUSTIFY INCREASING IT BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ARE BEING DONE BY THE INDIVIDUALS. WE KNOW THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP HAVING TO SPEND ON. 
          YES, SIR. I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT RIGHT NOW AND THE WAY PROPERTIES ARE SELLING RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU PUT THE LIEN ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN YOU TURN IT OVER TO THE COURTS, I FEEL THAT'S WHEN IT'LL HAPPEN. WE'LL GET THAT MONEY BACK. MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES, ONCE THEY'RE TURNED OVER, THEY BECOME MORE MARKETABLE AND THEY MIGHT SELL PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          IT'S JUST FRONTING THE MONEY, AS I STATED. SO WHAT IS THE AMOUNT? I CANNOT SEE THE SCREEN. 38745. DIDN'T WE USED TO HAVE IT IN ITS OWN ACCOUNT, SUSIE? YES. DEMO? YES. AND THEN WHERE IS IT? CONTRACT LABEL. 
          CONTRACT LABEL. BECAUSE IT KIND OF MUDDIES IT TO WHERE THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL. OTHER THAN THAT, WE STILL HAVE THE SEVEN EMPLOYEES. WE'LL BE AT 7.5 WITH THE PART-TIME POSITION. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL REGARDING OUR BUDGET. CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M LEAVING ANYTHING ELSE OUT. 
          SURE. YOUR PRIORITIES. KYLE, ARE YOU GOOD? GOOD. NO CHANGES TO YOUR BUDGET? YES, MA'AM. 
          CAN WE? NEVERMIND. HOW ABOUT REVENUES? REVENUES? YEAH, BUILDING PERMITS. I MEAN, ARE THEY? ARE WE SEEING INCREASED REVENUES FOR HIS DEPARTMENT? YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE FINES AND FEES ON ALL THESE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S ADDED TO THE REVENUE AS WELL. OUR FEAR IS THAT THE STATE WILL ALSO TOUCH THAT, MEANING THAT THERE'S CERTAIN PERMITS WE CAN'T CHARGE ANYMORE. SO THEY TOOK AWAY FOOD TRUCKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT'S MINIMAL, BUT 
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TO THE EXTENT ANYTHING THEY'RE TAKING AWAY, I THINK IT WILL HURT US, BUT. 
          WITH THE INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT, HOPEFULLY THAT FUND WILL INCREASE. I WOULD SUGGEST WE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR REVENUE ENHANCEMENT, THE FEE SCHEDULE ITSELF IN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, NUMBER ONE, IT'S MEETING THE NEW LAWS, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE IT'S MEETING THE CITY NEEDS IN TERMS OF THE DELIVERY OF SERVICE. SO I KNOW WE DID A STUDY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT ALSO ANNUALLY. 
          I'VE ALSO ASKED OTIS TO FIND OUT WHO OWES US THE DEVELOPMENTS, HOW MUCH THEY PAID, AND HOW MUCH IS OWED SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT IN. SO HE'S WORKING ON THAT. YES, SUSIE AND I WILL BE INVOICING, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, A NUMBER OF YOUR MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS. 
          BECAUSE THERE ARE OUTSTANDING FEES THAT WE ROTATE. 
          ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO WE HAVE TO MATCH UP THE INVOICES ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRESSES. 
          SO, LIKE AUSTIN COLONY, FOR EXAMPLE, INVOICING WILL COME SOON. SO WE'LL REPORT ON THAT AS WELL TO THE CHIEF. THANK YOU. AS FAR AS REVENUES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE OR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE UP MORE THAN WHAT IS ACTUALLY BUDGET. 
          SINCE THIS BUDGET WAS TO KEEP IT THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR. THEY DID COME IN AT $193,000 MORE LAST YEAR THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED. I SUSPECTED THAT. AND WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT ON OUR MONTHLY REPORTS. WE GIVE YOU THE PERMITTING NUMBERS, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO TRACK THAT ALSO. 
          BUT WE CAN DO COMPARISONS WITH THE 24. DECEMBER 24 IS WHEN WE WENT ONLINE WITH THE SOFTWARE. SO HOPEFULLY BY JANUARY WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A BETTER LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THE SOFTWARE MANAGES THAT A LOT BETTER NOW. ALL MY QUESTIONS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. WE CAN GIVE VISITS FROM YOU GUYS, AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION, WE'LL PROVIDE IT TO YOU ON THE RESIDENCE. THANK YOU. 
          THE NEXT PERSON TO VISIT THE LIBRARY, THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION TO GIVE TO YOU. I'M LENA LEWIS, I'M A MANAGER OF THE ANGLETON AND DANBURY LIBRARIES, THOUGH I KNOW MOST OF Y'ALL, THANK YOU. OH, IT'S ALSO YOUR CHOICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT DOWN. YOU CAN STAND AT THE PODIUM. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO SEE, BUT FEEL FREE. WHATEVER WORKS. 
          I'M A PACER, SO IT WOULDN'T BE BETTER. I GET IT. I FEEL THAT. 
          AND I ALSO HAVE RACHEL OROZCO, WHO'S THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GRANT SERVICES FOR THE MISSOURI COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM. IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, I KNOW SHE CAN ANSWER THEM. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING US COME. WE ARE ASKING TO STAY AT THE SAME AMOUNT AS PREVIOUS YEARS, $32,500. WE WANT TO SHOW YOU WE HAVE LOTS OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS. BESIDES THE CITY OF ANGLETON, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TEXAS A&M, SEVERAL MUSEUMS, HISTORICAL MUSEUMS. THE PRAIRIE VIEW AAM HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF WELLNESS COURSES, AND IN FACT, NEXT WEEK THEY'RE GOING TO START DOING COMPUTER COURSES AT THE LIBRARY FOR ADULT EDUCATION. TRYING TO.EDUCATION? IS PART OF OUR OUTREACH. I'M NERVOUS. I WENT TO LIBRARIES FOR A REASON. WE ALSO GO TO THE MONTHLY PROGRAMS AT THE ANGLETON PENN START. 
          HERE'S THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. WE HAD 64,143 PEOPLE COME TO THE LIBRARY LAST YEAR. 
          PROGRAM ATTENDANCE, WE HAD OVER 4,500 CHILDREN COME FOR THOSE PROGRAMS, 45 TEENS, 150 ADULTS. AND THE GENERAL INTEREST, AND FOR THAT MEANS IT'S FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. NEW STUFF TOGETHER. SO OUR ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD. CAN'T GET THE TEENS THERE, BUT THAT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THE TEENS THERE. 
          BUT THE NUMBER UP HERE IS THE ANGLETON BRANCH BUDGET IMPACT. 
          THAT'S APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH THE COUNTY SPENT OPERATING THE LIBRARY. SO THAT'S ON TOP 
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OF THE $32,500 WE'RE ASKING JUST FOR THIS YEAR. THIS IS WHAT THEY SPENT JUST ON THE ANGLETON LIBRARY. WE HAVE SIX FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS. I'M SORRY, SEVEN FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS, SIX PART-TIME FACILITIES. THE COUNTY OWNS THE ANGLETON LIBRARY. ONLY ONE OWNED BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE USED TO BE CENTRAL LIBRARY. 
          COMMISSIONER ADAMS GIVES ME AN EARFUL ON THAT EACH TIME. 
          YES. AZORA'S NOT OWNED BY THE CITY, EITHER. THEY'RE OWNED BY THE PRINCE RIDGE. 
          OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN OUR BUILDING BESIDES JUST THE HAMILTON BRANCH. HOW LONG IN THAT POSITION? AND ANOTHER 15 PEOPLE WORKING IN THE BACK AND NOBODY ELSE. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THE COUNTY FACILITIES WHERE I ALSO HOST OUR CENTRAL GROUP, OTHER THAN ADMINISTRATION. 
          BUT THIS BIG NUMBER, OVER ONE MILLION, IS THE AMOUNT THAT THE ENGLAND PATRON SAVED USING OUR LIBRARY RESOURCES. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE DIGITAL MATERIALS OR ONLINE RESOURCES. THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO BE A DEAL FROM I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ON THAT 64,000 AT THE TOP LEFT, DO YOU EVER DIVE INTO WHERE THEY'RE MADE UP, HOW THAT'S MADE UP? LIKE, ARE THEY FROM ANGLETON OR WHERE DO YOU GET? I MEAN, I WOULD ASSUME MOST OF THEM ARE ANGLETON RESIDENTS COMING IN THERE. CUZ YOU HAVE LIBRARIES ALL OVER THE COUNTY. IT'S MOSTLY ANGLETON RESIDENTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM MY ADDRESS, I DON'T KNOW THE BREAKDOWN, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY IS HAMILTON. DO YOU EVER DO AN ANALYSIS OF THAT, JUST TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM? YEAH, I THINK WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING SOFTWARE. WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT BY LIBRARY CARD. THE LIBRARY CARD HAS THE CITY. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT THERE ARE SOME FAMILIES THAT I KNOW WILL, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER, WE HAVE FREE PROGRAMMING FOR THE KIDS. AND I KNOW SOME FAMILIES THAT WILL GO TO OUR CALENDAR, PICK WHAT THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH, AND HIT ALL FOUR BRANCHES AND WHAT PROGRAMS THEY LIKE BEST. INTERESTING. SO IT'S NOT JUST SERVING ANGLETON. IT DOES SERVE THE BROCK BARBER COMMUNITY. 
          BUT THE VAST MAJORITY IS ANGLETON. AND SO GO ON. 
          FOR THIS YEAR, WE'RE ALMOST THREE QUARTERS AWAY FROM THE YEAR. THIS DID NOT INCLUDE JULY BECAUSE IT'S TOO SOON TO GET ALL THOSE STAFF. WE'RE ALREADY AT 46,000 CHILDREN, ALMOST 4,000. THE TEAM IS UP. 
          THE ATTENDANCE IS UP, BUT THE GENERAL INTEREST IS ABOUT THE SAME. WE STILL HAVE LIKE THREE MORE MONTHS TO GO. 
          OUR STAFF'S DOING GOOD. THEY WERE REALLY GOOD UNTIL WE WERE CLOSED LAST WEEK DUE TO THE AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES. 
          BUT IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. 
          YES, WE KNOW THAT FEELING. BUT SINCE WE HAVE LOTS OF PROGRAMS, CRAFT PROGRAMS, WE DO SOME PROGRAMMING. WE DO SATURDAY PROGRAMMING, EVENING PROGRAMMING. WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MANY, A VARIETY AS WE CAN, TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE IN. 
          THAT'S A PREVIEW. A&M, I BELIEVE, IS ONE OF THEM. 
          THERE'S A LOCAL COMMISSION. 
          THE REST IS THE WHOLE FAMILY. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IN ANGLETON IS WE ARE A FAMILY PLACE LIBRARY. THE FAMILY PLACE LIBRARY IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM THAT WE'RE A PART OF, TRYING TO CONNECT PRESCHOOLERS WITH RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN USE. 
          AND WE DO SPECIAL PROGRAMMING TWICE A YEAR WITH PLAY AREAS, BUT WE'VE BEEN A PART OF IT SINCE 2018. AND WE HAVE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF IT IS. WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROGRAM, INVITE THE PRESCHOOLS AND THE PARENTS WHERE THEY PLAY THE CHILDREN, AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTER. WE HAVE WIC COME OUT ONE DAY, AND WE'LL JUST GRADUALLY TALK TO THE PARENTS ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. 
          SOMEONE FROM BOP COMES OUT AND TALKS ABOUT CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND THE PARENTS AND ANSWER THEIR CONCERNS. IT'S A WAY TO TRY TO GET SOME UNDERSERVED PART OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE PROGRAM THAT CAN HELP THEM. 
          AND AN INFORMAL SETTING THAT'S NOT INTIMATE. WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE GETTING STARTED, BUT WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD ATTENDANCE THIS LAST TIME. I THINK WE HAVE A CLOSE TO 50, SO, WE'VE HAD DENTISTS, DIFFERENT GROUPS, 
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BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE ALSO HAVE A PLAY AREA, WHICH IS EXTREMELY POPULAR RIGHT NOW IN THE LIBRARY. THE TRENDS, LIBRARIES ARE NOT QUIET PLACES. LIBRARIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CENTERS OF COMMUNITIES. 
          OUR PLAY AREA IS IN USE. 
          ALMOST ALL THE TIME. IT'S AN INDOOR PLAY AREA FOR THE CHILDREN. ANOTHER PARK THING THAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A STORY WALK INTO THE PARK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WE STARTED OUT, WE CHANGED IT EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND OUR FRIENDS AT THE LIBRARY ARE PURCHASING THE BOOKS EVERY MONTH. SO WE WENT OUT SATURDAY MORNING AND CHANGED OUT THE STORY BLOCK. 
          THE CITIES WERE, WHENEVER THERE WAS A PROBLEM, THEY WOULD COME OUT AND HELP US. SO WE STARTED THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHEN WE WERE TEMPORARILY CLOSED, TRYING TO GET. WE HAVE THE HAMILTON LOGO, THE PRINCE OF THE LIBRARY LOGO, AND THE COUNTY LOGO ON IT. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST ASKING TO KEEP THE SAME FUNDING. YOU DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THE CITY. ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST MARTHA BEHIND ME. I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT ON DIFFERENT EVENTS, LET'S PARTNER TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP GET THE WORD OUT FOR YOU. A LOT OF THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTS USING THE LIBRARY, SO I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FOLLOWING ON OUR FACEBOOK. YOU'RE TRYING TO, YEAH, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS AND WHAT YOUR PROGRAMMING IS, MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THAT TO HELP. DOES THE BUS SERVICE COME TO Y'ALL, THE GULF COAST? THE OFFICIAL STOP IS ACROSS THE STREET. 
          ACROSS THE STREET. AH, NOT ACROSS CEDAR. ACROSS VALLEY ROOMS. GOOD. ACROSS VALLEY ROOMS. YEAH. 
          BUT THE WAY THEY DO NOW WITH INDIVIDUAL PICK-UP AND DROP-OFFS, THEY DO IT THERE REGULARLY. 
          GOOD. WE HAVE REGULAR PEOPLE THAT DEPEND ON IT. GREAT TO HEAR THAT. NO, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO. I'M NOT USED TO GOING INTO A LIBRARY WITH NOISE. I WAS ALWAYS YELLED AT AS A KID TO BE QUIET, SO I GO INTO THE LIBRARY AND I STAY QUIET. WELL, WE PREFER TO QUIET, BUT THE WAY THE TIDE IS TODAY, YOU JUST CAN'T SHUSH EVERYBODY'S CHILDREN. SO WE TRY TO KEEP IT IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT. ARE YOU STILL RENTING STUFF OUT? I HEARD FOR A WHILE THAT THE LIBRARY WAS RENTING THINGS. 
          IT'S NOT RENTING, BUT WE HAVE A LIBRARY OF THINGS. WE DO HAVE PAIR WASHERS AND BOUNCY HOUSES. THE SMALL ONES, NOT THE BIG ONES, FOR THE INSURANCE. WE HAVE TOOLS, KITS FOR CRAFTING. A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. I HAVE NO IDEA. I HAD NO IDEA. DVD PLAYERS. I NEEDED A SAW A FEW WEEKS AGO. 
          WE HAVE TOOLKITS. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS YOU DO HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE IF IT'S NOT THERE. WE PUT IT ON HOLD, JUST LIKE A BOOK, AND IT TURNS IN, AND WE CAN CONTACT YOU. OH, FABULOUS. SO WE HAVE A DESIGN JUST IN DISASTER RELIEF COLLECTION FOR HURRICANES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, BUT WE HAVE. TRYING TO DRAW OUT, YOU'RE SEEING THAT WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF TOOLS TO HELP WITH RECOVERY FOR DISASTERS THAT WE'VE. USUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE DOING IT THIS YEAR, BUT I KNOW. LAST YEAR THEY PULLED IN A BUNCH OF LAW FOR A RESERVE. SO THAT IF SOMETHING HIT, WE CAN JUST TAKE IT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT NEEDED THE MOST. 
          FANTASTIC. WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. WE EVEN HAVE A TRAILER AND WE HAVE BICYCLES. 
          WE CAN CHECK OUT A TANDEM BICYCLE FOR TWO WEEKS. WE CAN CHECK OUT CHILDREN'S BICYCLES, ADULT BICYCLES. WE HAVE A TRAILER THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY HIGH DEMAND. WE CHECK OUT FOR A WEEK AT A TIME. MY FAMILY'S CHECKED OUT THE TRAILER SEVERAL TIMES. 
          WORKS QUITE WELL. AND HAVE YOU ALL POSTED IT, AND I JUST DON'T SEE IT? WE 
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POSTED OUR WEBPAGE ON OUR FACEBOOK. IT'S BEEN IN THE PAPER A FEW TIMES. 
          OKAY. WE SENT OUT PUBLICITY. 
          IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO GET EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. 
          YEAH. THERE'S SO MUCH COMPETITION FOR OUR ATTENTION THESE DAYS. 
          WE HAVE IT ON FACEBOOK. THAT'S FABULOUS. IT'S WHAT'S IT GOT, THE LIBRARY'S MORE THAN BOOKS. 
          WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF STUFF. 
          AND PEOPLE SAY THE LIBRARY'S DYING. IT'S NOT. GOOD. IT'S STILL ACTIVE AND WE DO CHECK, AND WE HAVE ALL THE ONLINE SERVICES TOO, AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LIBRARY FOR FREE. 
          SO YOU CAN GET AUDIO BOOKS AND E-BOOKS, AND WE EVEN HAVE A WHOLE SET OF THOUSANDS OF GRAPHIC NOVELS AND WHO PLAYED AND HAS MOVIES? SO THERE'S ALL SORTS OF STUFF BESIDES JUST BOOKS. 
          MY FAVORITE IS STILL BOOKS. 
          GOT TO SMELL THOSE PAGES. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WILL GET WITH MARTHA ABOUT FACEBOOK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          YOUR NEXT DEPARTMENT WILL BE MARTHA. I WAS ALSO GOING TO SAY THAT WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE LIBRARY FOR ON MARKET DAYS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          THEY PARTICIPATED IN MARKET DAYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BIG BOOK SALE IN CONJUNCTION WITH MARKET DAY. AND I TELL YOU BY STANDING AT THE DOOR. 
          PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED. 
          PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHERE IS IT. YOU GO AROUND HERE, YOU GO DOWN THERE, YOU GO DOWN THERE. YES. SO DID YOU SAY 557? YES. 01-557, THAT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THAT DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET. 
          OTHER BUDGETS WOULD BE IN THE SPECIAL CAP. FUND 117, THAT'S DOWNTOWN. THAT ALSO HAS NO CHANGES. THAT STILL HAS A FUND BALANCE OF $9,987. 
          WHENEVER YOU DO WANT TO GO BACK AND START THAT FUND AGAIN. 
          YES. FUND 11 HAS PROBABLY HAD THE MOST MOVEMENT. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THAT DEPARTMENT BUDGET IS WE HAVE INCREASED REVENUE. SPONSORSHIP IS UP. 
          THE ARTISAN MARKET REVENUE IS UP. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOTEL MOTEL, RIGHT? NO, FUND 11. COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          COMMUNITY EVENTS, THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE ON? YEP. 
          MARKET DAY'S REVENUE IS UP AND WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM FOR THE BANNERS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE A, IF YOU DRIVE DOWNTOWN, YOU SEE ALL OF THE BANNERS THAT HAVE THE BUSINESS NAMES ON THEM. AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT IN-HOUSE. WE ARE WORKING WITH A COMPANY NOW THAT WE DON'T PAY THEM TO DO IT, BUT THEY GET ALL THE PROCEEDS FROM IT FROM OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT IN-HOUSE. WE USED TO DO THE BANNER PROGRAM BEFORE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT INCOME OF $40,000 THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL. AND WHEN WILL THAT ROLL OUT? WE HAVE ALREADY TOLD THEM THAT WE ARE NOT RE-UPPING OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM, SO WE'LL START IN THE FALL. OKAY. WE'LL BE READY TO PUT THE NEW BANNERS UP IN JANUARY. YAY. BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER, WE PUT THE HOLIDAY BANNERS UP EVERY YEAR. WE DIDN'T USE THE CGI BANNERS. WE PUT HOLIDAY BANNERS UP, AND THEN WE GO BACK TO THE SPONSORSHIP BANNERS. SO WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL IN JANUARY. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A KID, THEY HAD THOSE SEMI-CIRCLE BANNERS FOR THE FAIR. THAT ALL, DOWNTOWN, AT LEAST. 
          LIKE THE BUNTINGS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. 
          THEY GO LIKE THAT, RED, WHITE, AND BLUE? YES. SUGGESTION. 
          LUPI HAS MENTIONED THAT AS WELL. HE LIKES THOSE AS WELL. 
          THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, AND WHEN I TRAVEL, I SEE THEM IN OTHER TOWNS. SO ARE THEY ON THE LIGHT POLES WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THEM? NO, THESE ARE IN ANGLETON, LIKE BOWMAN'S HAD ONE. EVERYBODY HAD IT IN FRONT OF THERE. YES, LUPI MENTIONED THAT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE HOLIDAYS, THE 4TH OF JULY. RIGHT. THESE WERE WHERE THE PARADE WENT, THE PARADE ROUTE. DID THEY HAVE 
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OTHER TIMES BESIDES THE FAIR? IT WAS FAIR WEEK. YEAH. THE FACTS WERE POSITIVE. OH, YEAH. 
          TAKE A NOTE, COREY. TAKE A NOTE. I HAVE A QUESTION TO YOU ON THAT 810 LINE. OKAY. THIS YEAR, YOUR BUDGET WAS 8-2, AND YOU'RE AT 12-5 ALREADY. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON THERE THIS YEAR? WHICH LINE? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE EVENT SPONSORSHIP LINE. 
          ACTUALLY, IF I LOOKED RIGHT, AND SUSIE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE I LOOKED RIGHT BEFORE I CAME. I THINK EVENT SPONSORSHIP IS ACTUALLY UP TO $28,000. YEAH? I DON'T SEE THAT HERE, BUT. YOU'RE TODAY ACTUAL? I'VE GOT $12,500 IN THIS BOOK, SO THAT MIGHT BE MORE RECENT. 
          SO WHAT IS THAT REFLECTIVE OF? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THERE? BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE BUDGET CRUNCH AND WE STILL WANTED TO DO CONCERTS, AND WE STILL HAD SOME OF THE NEW INITIATIVE THAT WE ROLLED OUT. AND I WENT TO SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES AND HDR AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT THAT HAVE BEEN GREAT SPONSORS AND SO THAT REVENUE IS UP. OUR REVENUE FOR FREEDOM FIREWORKS ALONE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT $10,000. YOUR REVENUE THIS YEAR IS ALREADY OVER ALMOST $50,000 OVER. 
          RIGHT. SO YOU TAKE THAT WITH THE NEW SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM, AND YOU CAN SEE WHY. 
          ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, THAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE BRING IN A NEW EMPLOYEE THAT SHOULD START NEXT WEEK. AND FUND 11, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS. WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION LAST YEAR ABOUT THE MAYOR'S APPRECIATION DINNER AND THE SIX THOUSAND THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ENDED UP TAKING THAT MONEY AND PUTTING IT TOWARDS EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION OR SOMETHING. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONE OF MY NOTES SAID THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED ANGLETON UNIVERSITY. ME? YOU WANTED TO KNOW IF WE WERE DOING IT AGAIN? I PROBABLY JUST ASKED IF WE WERE DOING IT AGAIN. OKAY. NOT ANY PARTICULAR REASON. OKAY, YEAH. BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ASKING ABOUT IT, IF WE WERE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS ABOUT THAT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION MARK HERE. EDMONTON UNIVERSITY TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          HOW MUCH DID THAT COST TO RUN? I THINK WE HAD BUDGETED $6,000 FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT COST THAT MUCH. 
          IT'S JUST THE DINNERS, REALLY. AND EVERY DEPARTMENT JUST PREPARED A PRESENTATION. 
          SO WE PUT THEM ON THE BUS ONE NIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TOUR AND ALL THAT. 
          BUT IT WASN'T A HIGH-COST PROGRAM. I THINK IT WAS A WORTHY PROGRAM, BUT IT WASN'T A HIGH-COST PROGRAM. I'M NOT AGAINST SOMETHING IN THAT REALM. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT THE PUBLIC CAN LEARN ABOUT THE CITY AND IT GETS PEOPLE HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GETS SHAPED, OR, I MEAN, BUDGETING MONEY FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD RATHER SEE THEIR TAX RATE DOWN THAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I THINK GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW UP AND ASK QUESTIONS, OR, I DON'T KNOW. YOU CAN DO THAT AT THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          WELL, CAN IT BE A COMPRESSION? PRESS SCHEDULE? YEAH, IT REALLY WAS ONLY ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, I BELIEVE, AND THERE'S ONLY 20 TO 25 MEMBERS THAT COME IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE THE BUS AND ALL OF THAT. SO I TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. IT WAS JUST SOMETHING, IF YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE AN APPETITE FOR IT, I JUST WROTE IT DOWN AS A NOTE THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. 
          OKAY. MY ISSUE WITH IT IS I DON'T SEE THOSE PEOPLE ON COMMITTEES. I DON'T SEE THEM COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS. I SEE THEM VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN ANGLETON UNIVERSITY. YOU KNOW, THEY'LL SAY, OH, ANGLETON UNIVERSITY. IT'S LIKE, I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU AT A COUNCIL MEETING. I DON'T SEE YOU SIGNING UP FOR COMMITTEES. WE HAVE VACANCIES ON COMMITTEES AND BOARDS. SO WHAT'S THE PAYOFF TO THE 25 PEOPLE? YES. RIGHT. BUT WHAT'S THE PAYOFF TO THE CITY? I WILL SAY, PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THAT WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE FROM ANGLETON UNIVERSITY. 
          OF COURSE, YES. END UP ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION AFTER THEY LEARN. YES, PLAIN. 
          RIGHT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BEFORE OR AFTER, BUT I BELIEVE CHRISSY, DIDN'T 
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SHE DO ANGLETON UNIVERSITY, OR? I'VE DONE IT. I MEAN, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE, I WAS THERE FOR A FEW OF THEM. I'M NOT, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A WAY WE COULD DO THIS PRIVATELY. 
          SPONSORSHIP. MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD SPONSOR DINNER AND WE COULD STILL HOST IT. MAYBE WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT. OKAY. I HAVE AN IDEA. ANY QUESTIONS ON FUND 11 AND EVENTS? IT STILL, IS HOLDING THE REMEMBER WHEN WE CUT THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO DO THE FUND BALANCE TRANSFER TO GENERAL FUND? WE STILL HAVE, EVEN WITH THE INCREASED REVENUES AND THE EMPLOYEE COMING IN, WE STILL HAVE A $40,000 FUND BALANCE TRANSFER BUDGETED IN THIS YEAR. THIS BUDGET. THAT'S GREAT. IF IT'S NEEDED. OK. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT ON YOUR CONCERTS IN THE PARK, THAT IS ONLY FOR THREE CONCERTS? YES. SO RIGHT NOW, WE'VE DONE THE TWO. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LINE ITEM, YOU SEE, I MEAN, THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. AND WE MOVED THEM TO DOWNTOWN BY THE HEART, WHICH HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS REALLY LIKED THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO CREATE THAT EVENT SPACE. WE HAVE TO MOVE THINGS OUT, THE RESTROOMS, THE STAGE, ALL OF THAT STUFF. THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE LEAVING IT THERE FOR A WEEK OR WHATEVER. SO IF WE DO, LIKE RIGHT, THIS YEAR, WE'RE DOING, WE DID TWO IN MAY, AND WE'VE GOT ONE SCHEDULED FOR TEJANO 9 IN SEPTEMBER. IF WE CAN FIND SPONSORSHIP OR WE HAVE MORE MONEY, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD TO THAT. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALMOST AT OUR $25,000, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR EXPENSES FOR, WE'VE ONLY DONE OUR DEPOSIT FOR TEJANO 9. SO. IT IS EXPENSIVE. I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. I MEAN, AT THE TRIBUTE NIGHT, WHERE WE DID THE EAT LOCAL, SHOP LOCAL CAMPAIGN KICKOFF, WE HAD 1,000 PEOPLE OUT THERE. IT'S JUST WONDERFUL. 
          THE BUSINESSES HAVE ASKED, THE ONES THAT WERE THERE, LIKE, WHY CAN'T WE COME TO ALL OF THEM? SO THAT IS AN OPEN INVITATION FOR ALL BUSINESSES TO COME TO ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE ONE. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I GOT SOME, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, IT'S ALWAYS CONSTRUCTIVE, I GUESS, THAT THEY SAID, YOU DID THIS GREAT, YOU KNOW, KICKOFF OF EAT LOCAL, SHOP LOCAL, AND WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SINCE, BASICALLY? YOU JUST STARTED IT, YOU MADE IT, AND THEN YOU JUST WALKED AWAY FROM IT. AND SO, HOW TO KEEP THAT MOMENTUM GOING? YOU KNOW, SOMETHING EVERY MONTH, ALMOST? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AN EVENT? EVERY MONTH? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EVENT, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT KEEPS IT GOING. BECAUSE THEY JUST SEE US DO SOMETHING, AND THEN NOTHING. RIGHT. 
          UNTIL MONTHS LATER, WE DO ANOTHER CONCERT IN THE PARK AND WE INVITE THEM BACK. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? DO YOU HAVE THE STICKERS? YES, SO WE HAVE OVER 150 STICKERS THAT HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE'VE DONE THE LOVE WHERE YOU LIVE CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHERE WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED BUSINESSES AND ASKED PEOPLE TO TELL US. I THINK YOU AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WHERE YOU WERE SAYING, HOW CAN A PERSON TELL US GOOD NEWS ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH? OR THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEVER KNOW UNTIL THEY PUT IT IN THE FEED, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HIGHLIGHT AT CITY COUNCIL, WHERE WE LOOK AT THAT LIST OR DRAW OUT A HAT. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO DO THAT. YES, AND THEN WE COULD DO THAT. JUST CONSISTENCY IS OUR THING. 
          YES. SO HOPEFULLY YOUR OTHER PERSON COMING ON WILL HELP US. YES, I THINK THAT THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE THE CASE. AND WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FUND 11? WELL, I GUESS ONE QUESTION. SUSIE, ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE THE $40,000 OR ARE YOU GOING TO TRANSFER IT BACK? IT'S TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND AND OF COURSE, IT'S ALL BASED ON WHAT WE DO ON THE BANNERS. 
          RIGHT. SO, FOR NOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE? YES. SO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BANNER PROGRAM CURRENTLY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SPONSORING A BANNER DOWNTOWN CURRENTLY, WE ARE. WE ARE ESTIMATING VERY CONSERVATIVELY. 
          AT 40,000, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO 50,000 FOR THE CURRENT BANNERS, NOT EVEN ALL OF THE BANNERS BEING FULL. SO DO WE GET TO TAKE THOSE? ARE THOSE? OUR BANNERS? YES, SO, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE THERE NEXT. 
          YES, AND OUR PARKS PUTS THEM UP AND ALL OF THAT, SO YES. THEY 
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TAKE THEM DOWN AND PUT OUR HOLIDAY BANNERS UP. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT WE DIDN'T PULL A NUMBER OUT OF THE HAT, IT'S BASED ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE. 
          AND WE'RE BEING CONSERVATIVE. 
          HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE PARKS TO PUT THEM UP AND TAKE THEM DOWN? I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IT'S PROBABLY A FEW DAYS, A COUPLE DAYS. 
          USUALLY A COUPLE DAYS. AND DO THEY USE THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? THEY USE THEIR EQUIPMENT. YEAH, WHEN I SEE THEM EVEN DO THE LIGHT POLES FOR CHRISTMAS AND EVERYTHING, THEY'RE ON LADDERS. YES. YEAH, THEY DON'T HAVE A LIFT TRUCK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. THE LAST ONE IS FUND FOUR. AND THE ONLY CHANGE IN THAT IS THAT WE REDUCED THE MOTEL REVENUE BY $15,700 AND THEN REDUCED EXPENDITURES BY THAT SAME AMOUNT. SO, THEREFORE, IT'S THE SAME. THE REDUCTION WAS MADE MORE TO THE HISTORICAL REVENUES THAT WE'VE HAD. YES. WHEN WE LOOKED AT BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL FOR WHERE HOTEL-MOTEL REVENUE IS. 
          AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL DO TO SAY, PLEASE COME STAY AT OUR HOTELS AND MOTELS? TYPICALLY, THE WAY THE HOTEL MOTEL SUPPORTS THE HOTEL BUSINESSES BY EVENTS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND PROMOTING THINGS THAT BRING PEOPLE TO TOWN. IN 2010, WHEN THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME REACHED OUT TO SAY WE WANTED TO CREATE SOMETHING TO BRING MY POSITION IN. WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE CITY, IT WAS JUST FOR THAT. IT WAS TO WORK WITH PARKS, WITH TOURNAMENTS AT THE TIME, TO CREATE EVENTS. THAT'S HOW I CREATED MARKET DAYS, AND HOW I DID FREEDOM FIREWORKS, AND HOW I GREW HEART OF CHRISTMAS AND NOW HAVE DONE ARTISTS IN MARKET AND ADDED CONCERTS IN THE PARK. ANYTHING THAT WOULD CREATE, PUT ANGLETON ON THE MAP FROM A DESTINATION STANDPOINT TO SAY, I REMEMBER THAT. NOW PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU FROM OTHER TOWNS, OH, I WENT TO MARKET DAYS THERE. I KNOW WHERE ANGLETON IS. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAIN WAY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT. WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION INTERNALLY, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY SAY, WHAT IS ANGLETON NEED? ALWAYS ON THE FOREFRONT, WE TALK ABOUT HOTELS. CHIEF AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOTELS. SO PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, EVEN IF YOU HAVE SIX OR SEVEN HOTELS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING, HOTEL MOTELS THAT ARE OPERATING, WHERE ARE PEOPLE ACTUALLY STAYING? DO YOU HAVE A MEMBERSHIP TO A MARRIOTT THAT YOU WANT POINTS FOR? SO YOU'RE GOING TO LAKE JACKSON, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST THE TRUTH, RIGHT? SO, OR IF YOU HAVE A TOURNAMENT AND YOU HAVE TWO HOTELS THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THESE ARE THE HOTELS THAT I WOULD STAY IN. THEY'RE FULL. AND DO THEY HAVE TO GO TO LAKE JACKSON? SO WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THAT THAT'S A REAL THING, YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY THAT I TALK TO IS IN THE SAME BOAT, BUT WE TALK ABOUT IT A LOT, TOO, ABOUT HOW TO GET MORE HOTELS AND MORE CHOICES. AND DO YOU SEE THE TRENDS, LIKE WHEN THERE IS A TOURNAMENT, WHEN THE FAIR COMES TO TOWN, DO YOU SEE THE INCREASE IN HOURS? YES, THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT. WHEN I FIRST STARTED MARKET DAYS, I USED TO DO A REBATE OF $75 IF YOU BROUGHT ME YOUR HOTEL RECEIPTS. 
          SO I COULD KNOW, HOW AM I GONNA GROW THIS EVENT TO BE ACTUALLY A DESTINATION, HEADS AND MEDS EVENT? YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT'S HOW I KNEW THAT THEY WERE STAYING. AND BEFORE THEY LEFT, THEY BOOKED FOR THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT? SO I DO KNOW ABOUT THAT, I DO KNOW ABOUT THE FAIR. THE FAIR ALSO HAS TO SPREAD, EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE ENTERTAINERS COME IN, THEY HAVE TO SPREAD ALL OVER THE COUNTY. YET TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN HAVE A PLACE FOR EVERYONE. WEDDINGS WE'VE GOT GREAT VENUES AROUND HERE. 
          WEDDINGS ARE A BIG THING. THAT PUTS HEADS AND HEADS HERE, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO PROBABLY MOSTLY IS CONTRACTORS, YES. YEAH. SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT BIG CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE PETROCHEM INDUSTRY, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A PER DIEM THAT'S LOWER AND YOU NEED TO FILL THOSE HOTELS. WE DEFINITELY HAVEN'T SEEN IT THIS 
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YEAR. I THINK YOU'RE NOT, I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOCK THAT DOWN EVEN MORE. KNOCK WHAT DOWN EVEN MORE? THE REVENUE ON HOTEL MOTEL. I MEAN, YEAR-TO-DATE, YOU'RE ONLY AT 86. YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER, JOHN, WE ACCRUED THE LAST QUARTER. SO WE HAVEN'T TAKEN IN A FOURTH OF OUR INCOME YET FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS. I'LL BE INTERESTED TO FIND WHERE WE FINISH. 
          YEAH, SO IF YOU LOOK AT. YOU HAVE THE LATEST AND GREATEST RIGHT NOW? I THINK WE'RE PROJECTING, WHAT, 229? WHAT'S THIS THIRD SEASON? THAT IS THE ACTUAL. SEPTEMBER? THIS IS THE ACTUAL THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ALREADY SO FAR. IT'S AN AVERAGE OF 45, 54. AND I APPROXIMATE FOR THE LAST QUARTER BY 63 TO BE 229. OKAY, BUT YOU'VE GOT 230. RIGHT, BUT THAT'S JUST IN PLACE. I KNOW, YEAH. I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK YOU PROBABLY A LITTLE LIGHT THERE, BUT I HOPE IT'S WRONG. I HOPE IT'S EVEN BETTER. CAN I KEEP THIS FOR A MINUTE? SURE. 
          THANK YOU. WE'LL GET PEOPLE TO COME TO SCHOOLS AT THE PD. 5% OF THEM GO TO LAKE JACKSON, I ASK. WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A, NOT KNOCKING ANYTHING HERE, BUT WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A NICE HOTEL OR SOME TYPE OF CONVENTION CENTER OR MEETING ROOMS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. A RESTAURANT, YEAH. YEAH. IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY NOTES THAT I HAD. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE FOR ME. WE'VE BEEN SUPER BUSY AND GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING. 
          REALLY PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE AND EXCITED ABOUT WHERE ANGLETON IS GOING WITH ALL THE THINGS ON THE HORIZON. I LOVE THE EAT LOCAL, SHOP LOCAL. I DID BRAG ON OUR MAYOR YESTERDAY, MAN. 
          JUST SAYING. MANVILLE. YOU BRAGGED ON THE MANVILLE MAYOR? OUR MAYOR. OH, OKAY. I MEAN, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE NOT USED TO THAT. YOU BRAGGED ABOUT MAYOR JOHN AND MAYOR DAN. WENT INTO HIS DEN? WENT INTO HIS DEN AND SAID, MAYOR JOHN. TELL US. HE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A PICTURE ON THE WATER TOWER. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M NOT EITHER. WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I WAS IN THE FIRST ANGLE TO YOU. YOU WERE? YES, AND FROM OUR CAPSTONE PROJECTS, SO MY CAPSTONE PROJECT WAS THE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE FOR THE PLAN. THE NEXT YEAR, WE HAD ANOTHER CAPSTONE PROJECT. I THINK IT WAS MS. JACKSON WANTING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY EVENT, AND THEN THEY HELD THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WAS IMPLEMENTING MORE SAFETY AROUND RANCHO. AND THAT ALSO. 
          THERE WAS SOME GENTLEMAN THAT WAS KEPT STANDING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUS STOPS. YES, BECAUSE HE'S AN ACTIVE USER. 
          YES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT DIRECTOR WOULD BE DESIREE, AND SHE'LL HAVE THE CITY, THE SECRETARY AND THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S HOW ONE, AND THANK YOU. SECRETARY AND IT'S, THERE'S ONLY ONE INCREASE, AND IT'S TO OUR SOFTWARE. WE'RE HAVING TO IMPLEMENT A NEW PLATFORM FOR OUR AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING RID OF THE ONE WE HAVE NOW. SO IT WOULD BE MANDATORY TO SWITCH TO STICK WITH THEIR SERVICES. 
          AND OTHER THAN THAT, I'VE MOVED SOME FUNDS AROUND, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY INCREASE TO OUR BUDGET. HOLD ON, DESIREE, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES, I WAS GOING TO SAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GOTTA FIND IT. 
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ARE YOU JUST GOING TO GO OVER TO THE CITY SECRETARY? I HAVE A COUNCIL, YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO COUNCIL TOO? YES. 
          OKAY, ONE SECOND. GOOD SIGNATURE, YOU CAN, JOHN. 
          YES, I'M SORRY. I ALWAYS HAVE TO DO THE ATTORNEY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SWAGGIN' UNDER EARS. THEY USE HIM AS THE CITY SECRETARY. YEAH. THAT'S UNDER THE ANNUAL SOFTWARE. DUE SUBSCRIPTIONS, RIGHT? NO. 460. 
          ANNUAL SOFTWARE. IS THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S IN THERE? IT'S NOT. THIS IS OUR AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. AND SWAGIT. SWAGIT, OUR LASERFISH, AND JUST OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST SOFTWARE. 
          SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING UP IS THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. YOU'RE NOT ADDING AN INCREASE FOR SWAGIT? NOT FOR SWAGIT. IT MIGHT BE A PROJECT IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE TO LOOK AND SEE THE ALTERNATIVES TO SWAGIT. I MEAN. YES. I THINK JASON'S ALREADY DID THAT. WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING INTO IT. 
          IT'S JUST THAT THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE IS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMPETITION. RIGHT. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE MORE COST-FRIENDLY. WE JUST WOULDN'T GET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE. COME TO EXPECT FROM OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND SEE A HANDED VERSION OF EVERYONE. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS OUT THERE. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO. 
          JUST REMEMBER THEY'RE LISTENING RIGHT NOW. SO, YEAH. IT'S EXPENSIVE. I MEAN, IT'S GONE UP A LOT, I THINK. 
          AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE ADA COMPLIANCY THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FOLLOWING. 
          AND I KNOW THAT SWAGIT MAKES SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE FEATURES AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF IT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT NEW ADA COMPLIANCY FOR OUR WEBSITE GOING INTO EFFECT IN 2028. AND SO THEY'RE WORKING AHEAD TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AS WELL. JASON. I THINK THAT WAS MY ONLY MAJOR QUESTION OUT OF YOURS. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK RIGHT NOW WITH THIS WAGON. THAT'S TOO BAD. WHERE THIS IS? IT IS PRICEY, BUT THEY DO OFFER US A GOOD SERVICE. I JUST ASKED. 
          YES. YEAH, IT'S A FULL-FLEDGED VIDEO PRODUCTION SERVICE, AND SO THEY HAVE SOMEONE WHO WATCHES THE VIDEOS, THE MONITORS, THE CAMERAS, PAN, TILT, ZOOM. YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE LOOKING TO. WE COULDN'T DO IT IN-HOUSE, CHEAPER, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE DEDICATED STAFF TO RUN AUDIO AND VIDEO, BE HERE FOR EVERY MEETING. 
          YOU'RE ABLE TO EDIT VIDEO, UPLOAD, MAKE HYPERLINKS ON THE WEB PAGE THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO EACH SECTION OF THE AGENDA, LIKE WE HAVE NOW WITH SWAGIT. AND SO ALL OF THAT COMBINED TOGETHER OVERALL IS A GREAT VALUE FOR WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THROUGH SWAGIT. CAN I KEEP THEM HONEST, THEN? I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT IF WE DO LOOK AT OTHER SOFTWARE, I LOVE THE TRANSCRIPT. THAT'S HOW I'M ABLE TO FIND MY INFORMATION SO QUICKLY, SEARCHING THROUGH PAST TRANSCRIPTS OF THE SWAGIT TO PULL UP THE THING. AND THE HYPERLINKS HELP ME WHEN I'M SHARING INFORMATION TO OTHER CITIZENS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS. I CAN REFER TO THE 2021 MEETING AND JUST SEND THEM THE HYPERLINK THAT GOES RIGHT TO WHERE THE VIDEO STARTS. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WILL BE PART OF ADA COMPLIANCY AS WELL. 
          THAT WAS ALL FOR OUR BUDGET. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOVING ON TO THE COUNCIL BUDGET, THERE ARE NO INCREASES. SOME 
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FUNDS AROUND, BUT NO INCREASES. THEY MAY BE FLAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COUNCIL BUDGET? COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER YOUR BUDGET? NO. THANK YOU. THE NEXT DEPARTMENT WOULD BE IT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'LL START WITH JUST A TOP-DOWN VIEW OF MY DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY THREE FULL-TIME, INCLUDING MYSELF, AND PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE 146 COMPUTERS, AND WE'LL LET YOU PUT THIS DESKTOP ON TOP OF SERVERS. WE HAVE THREE VIRTUAL SERVERS THAT HOST APPROXIMATELY 15 OTHER SERVERS, AND THEN A NUMBER OF REPORTING SERVERS THAT HOST OR STORE DATA FOR BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE, DIGITAL EVIDENCE, SURVEILLANCE VIDEOS. WE HAVE THINGS THAT COULD BE BUDGETARY CONSIDERATIONS. 22 OF OUR 146 COMPUTERS ARE OVER 10 YEARS OLD. SOME AS OLD AS 12 YEARS. 
          ROUGH COST PER COMPUTER RIGHT NOW, WHICH I FEEL LIKE IS A REALLY GREAT PRICE, CONSIDERING THE AI MARKET HAS DRIVEN PRICES FOR COMPUTERS THROUGH THE ROOF, IS AROUND $1,068 PER COMPUTER. THAT'S A COMPUTER, THE SOFTWARE, AND A MONITOR. WHAT ARE YOU BUYING? LENOVO. WE USED TO BUILD THEM IN-HOUSE, BUT RIGHT NOW I CANNOT BUILD COMPUTERS CHEAPER THAN I CAN BUY. AND SO IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO BUY AN OFF-THE-SHELF LENOVO. THE COMPUTER ITSELF, THE TOWER, THE MOUSE IS AROUND $700. IT'S A GREAT DEAL, ACTUALLY. IT'S A BIG MARKET. 
          OUR SERVERS, WE HAVE THREE VIRTUAL SERVERS. 
          THE OLDEST ONE THERE, WE PURCHASED IN 2018, SO IT'S ABOUT EIGHT YEARS OLD. AND WE DO FULL REPLACEMENT. THE ESTIMATE I HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR REPLACEMENT IS 32,536 DOLLARS. WE USUALLY TRY TO REPLACE THOSE ABOUT EVERY SEVEN YEARS. SO WE'RE AT EIGHT YEARS. WE'RE KIND OF PUSHING IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THE PAST IS WE WOULD TAKE THE SERVER THAT WE'RE TAKING OFFLINE OUT OF OUR AND ROLL THAT OVER INTO OUR BACKUP SERVER. WHICH WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO FOR A WHILE, SO THAT BACKUP SERVER IS AGING AS WELL. SO, AND THAT, I'VE LOOKED AT PRICES TO REPLACE THAT. I'M STILL WAITING ON A CALL BACK FROM DELL, MY ESTIMATE, TO REPLACE THAT. BACK TO THE SERVER WILL BE ABOUT $45,000. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW, THE AI BOOM, IT'S HARD TO GET A STORE, SERVER, ANYTHING. I THINK IT'S A HUNDRED DAYS OUT. WE RECENTLY HAD A BATTERY BACKUP THAT FAILED IN OUR SOLAR RACK. IT IS AGING. THE BATTERIES FAILED EARLIER THIS YEAR. WE REPLACED THE BATTERIES. BROUGHT IT BACK ONLINE AND IT WAS FINE FOR A WHILE. IT CAVED OUT ON US. WE CAN REPLACE THAT FOR PROBABLY ABOUT $5,000, AND WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JC GAVE US THEIR THAT, THEIR BATTERY BACKUP THAT THEY'VE USED THE LAST FIVE YEARS ON THEIR RACK, BUT THEY HAVE DONE MAINTENANCE ON IT EVERY YEAR. AND SO IT'S A GOOD UNIT. ALL WE NEED TO BUY IS A TRANSFER SWITCH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY CHEAPER THAN WAITING ON FOLKS FOR THAT TO GET A TRANSFER SWITCH THAT'S COMPATIBLE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A ROUND. I THINK IT'S A GREAT ROUND TO GO FOR US. AND THEN, IN FIVE MORE YEARS, WE'LL TAKE THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE AND JUST MOVE IT OVER. HOW DID YOU GET THAT? EVERY FIVE YEARS, 911 REPLACES ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, AND THEY 
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GRACIOUSLY DONATE THEIR USED EQUIPMENT TO US. AND SO THEY REPLACE THEIRS WHEN WE HAVE THAT. THAT'S A GOOD WIN. YES. I HAVE, THERE IS SOME STATE FUNDING AVAILABLE THROUGH A GRANT, A STATE-LEVEL CYBERSECURITY GRANT. THAT OPENS IN DECEMBER, AND SO I'M LOOKING INTO THAT FOR HARDWARE. IT IS CYBER SECURITY FOCUSED, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT LIMITED AS TO WHAT WE CAN USE IT ON, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY DARE TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING. THE 30% MATCH, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MATCH THOSE FUNDS IN THE EVENT THAT WE WERE AWARDED SOME FUNDING THROUGH THAT GRANT. AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES, THE BIGGEST INCREASES ARE IN SERVICES. MICROSOFT LET US KNOW THAT THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR MICROSOFT 365 LICENSES BY 20%. SO WE HAVE THAT INCREASE THERE IN 5.5. ALSO, MAINTENANCE ON OUR SERVERS THAT WE RENEW EVERY YEAR. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE RECEIVED MAINTENANCE FOR OUR NEW STORAGE SERVER THAT WE PURCHASED. THE RURI LOGO. I WAS SHOCKED. THE NUMBER THAT WE CAME BACK WITH WAS ABOUT $18,000 A YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE. JUST ON THAT STORAGE SERVER. THAT STORAGE SERVER HOSTS ALL OF THE DATA FOR EVERYTHING WE DO IN THE CITY. AND MY GUESS IS AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY RELATED TO THE AI BOOM AND THE FACT THAT HARD DRIVES AND SOLID STATE DRIVES ARE DIFFICULT TO FIND. 
          AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T. SO THAT IS A BIG INCREASE THERE. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FAIRLY MINIMAL. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR ON OUR VIRTUAL SERVER SOFTWARE. VMWARE WAS BOUGHT OUT BY BROADCOM, BUT BROADCOM HAS INCREASED PRICING. 
          WE'RE PAYING AROUND $3,000 EVERY FIVE YEARS FOR THE SOFTWARE. THE NEW PRICING IS EXPECTED TO COME IN AROUND $13,000, $14,000 EVERY YEAR. I HAVE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES FOR LOCALIZATION. WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE RESELLERS IS THAT YOU CAN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THE RESELLERS HAVE ADJUSTED THEIR PRICES ADEQUATELY AND HAVE BROUGHT THEM UP TO $100 BILLION. SO THAT WILL BE AN EXPECTED INCREASE? YES. ALL RIGHT. 
          APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU JUST GAVE US. THE EQUIPMENT R&M 310 LINE. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE REPLACING THE COMPUTERS, RIGHT? THAT'S USUALLY BREAK-FIX. THAT'S BREAK-FIX. 
          THE COMPUTER USUALLY COMES OUT OF CAPITAL. THE CE AT THE BOTTOM, 625? YES. 
          BECAUSE WHEN I GO BACK, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE, HOW MANY COMPUTERS ARE YOU TRYING TO REPLACE A YEAR? IT WOULD BE NICE TO REPLACE ABOUT 30. THAT WOULD PUT US REPLACING ALL THE COMPUTERS EVERY FIVE, SIX YEARS. IS THAT YOUR NUMBER ONE OBJECTIVE RIGHT NOW? NUMBER ONE OBJECTIVE IS PROBABLY THE BACKUP SERVER. 
          AND YOU SAID THAT WAS GOING TO BE HOW MUCH? MY ESTIMATE IS AROUND $45,000. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH FUNDING YOU VOLUNTEERED LAST YEAR? AROUND $70,000. FOR SOME REASON, I REMEMBER IT BEING MORE, BUT I COULD BE WRONG. WE ALSO TRY TO HELP HIM OUT, AND I'M SURE JASON CAN BACK ME UP ON THIS. WHEN THE PD, WHEN COMPUTERS GO DOWN AND WE NEED COMPUTERS, LIKE WE PURCHASED COMPUTERS FOR THE CARS AND OUT OF OUR SEIZURE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO, EVERY TIME HE ASKS FOR SOMETHING, WE WILL GO TO HIM, BUT IT'S COMPUTER RELATED. 
          THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER AREA THAT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF UNITS. DOES EVERYONE NEED A 
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LAPTOP? FOR MOBILES? NO, JUST IN GENERAL, BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN USING LENOVO LAPTOPS. NO, THAT'S A LENOVO DESKTOP. IT'S A DESKTOP. THAT EXPLAINS A LOT. I WAS LIKE, THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GETTING LAPTOPS AT THAT COST. OKAY. I MEAN, YOU NEED THAT. YOU NEED THE BACKUP SERVER. AND I THINK THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. AND I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY THE 45 WAS AN ACTUAL? OKAY. QUESTIONS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE BUDGET? LET HIM BUY THE BACKUP SERVER, PUT IT IN THERE? ANY OF THE DESKTOPS THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OUT? NOT YET. 
          AT LEAST MY OPINION. IT'S UP TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. I PUT IT ON THE LIST. I THINK THERE'S A WAY WE COULD PROBABLY FUND IT. 
          PROBABLY THE HEAD. WHAT? FUND IT. FUND THE BACKUP SERVER. 
          OKAY, WELL, THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          OKAY. WELL, I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING IS THE BACKUP SERVER, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID, NUMBER ONE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND WE HAVE ABOUT 22 COMPUTERS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED TO BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH NUMBER 11. THAT COST WOULD BE AROUND $24,000. HOW MANY HAVE YOU DONE SO FAR THIS YEAR? I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT COUNT. 
          BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR YEAR-TO-DATE NUMBER ON THAT LINE, AND I WAS THINKING YOU STILL HAVE ROOM THIS YEAR TO GET SOME MORE. 
          YES, AND I DID JUST PURCHASE TWO MORE. SO I'M KIND OF WATCHING THAT LINE ITEM. IS IT TWO OF THOSE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, THOSE WINDOWS 11S? WINDOWS 11S, YES. YES, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THOSE. 
          MIGHT BE THE YEAR TO DO A COUPLE MORE. IF I HAVE MONEY, AS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER, I'M GOING TO SPEND IT ON AND THE DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN HELPING OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE, IT'S BEEN TOUGH FOR US TO PURCHASE COMPUTERS FOR THEM. SO SOMETIMES, IF THERE'S A NEED, THEY'LL FIND MONEY IN THEIR OWN BUDGETS. WE HAVE REPLACED THE NUMBER. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR JASON? I WANT THE BACKUP SERVER, AND I THINK WE NEED TO START BEING PROACTIVE AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THESE COMPUTERS BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. I HAVE AN IDEA ON THAT BACK UP SO FAR. 
          GOOD. MR. HARRELL? HELLO? AS FAR AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I DID ASK FOR SOME TIME TO COME OUT AND CONTINUE. AS FAR AS ANYTHING ELSE, I ADDED SOME LIGHTS FOR THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO AROUND $4,000 
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MORE DOLLARS TO THAT, 6,200, ACTUALLY. WE COUNTED HERE, THE LAST BUDGET, IT'S GOING TO BE UP ABOUT $6,000. I WENT OFF OF LOOKING AT PUTTING EMERGENCY LIGHTS ON MY VEHICLES, SO I COULD GET TO THE EMERGENCY, SO $1,000 FEES, THINGS LIKE THAT. RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST ABOUT TO GO. WE COUNT HOW MANY. WHAT DID YOU DROP? THE TOILING. WHAT DID YOU DROP? CAN'T GET THE OFFICER OUT OF THE OUT OF IT. I WAS JUST HOPING IT WAS LIKE A TOYOTA COROLLA. I DON'T KNOW. DON'T YOU HAVE A LIGHT BAR FROM AN OLD TAHOE THAT YOU CAN'T JUST GO? THE REST. HE'S LIKE A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN. 
          THEY'RE NOT GONNA DRIVE THAT. 
          THEY WANT THE LATEST AND GREATEST. WE CAN GIVE YOU ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN JUST KODAK-LIKE. I DID START LONG FOR THEM. I DID DRIVE ONE CAR THAT HAD ONE PLACE FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS. OR GIVE YOU SOME HARD-LIKES LIKE THAT WORKS HARD. POOR JASON'S OVER HERE TRYING TO GET A $45,000 SERVER TO BACK UP THIS PLACE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. WE COULD WORK WITH HIM ON EMERGENCY LIGHTS, MAYOR, FROM THE PD STANDPOINT. IF COUNCIL WANTS HIM TO HAVE EMERGENCY LIGHTS, WE COULD HELP HIM. OR HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION. WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR? WHAT'S LEFT IN THE BUDGET? YOUR BUDGET? YEAH, IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, IT DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S A HURRICANE. 
          DON'T SAY THAT. KNOCK ON WOOD, WE DON'T HAVE ONE. I DON'T HAVE ZERO. EL NINO, EL NINO. EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALREADY ABOUT, WHEN I GOT IN HERE, EVERYTHING WAS ALREADY. I HAVE ONE LINE ITEM THAT HAD LIKE, 65. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SITTING HERE TODAY AT 09,000, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE 10,000 WE HAD FOR THE YEAR. 
          PURCHASING WATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO MAYBE SOMETHING I CAN DO TOWARDS THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR. SO I'M ASKING NOW FOR THIS, JUST IN CASE I CAN'T AFFORD THAT. 
          SUSIE, YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO HAVE $6,000 SAVINGS THIS YEAR IN HIS BUDGET? IF THERE'S NOT A. YES. EMERGENCY. ONE SHALL NOT BE NAMED. I'M JUST, I KNOW I'M PICKING ON YOU A LITTLE. I MEAN, HE'S DONE EVERYTHING ON THE THAT'S BUDGET IS USED. GOING TO THE LINE ITEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN USED IS THE $10,000 FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. IT WAS PRETTY MUCH GONE WHEN HE GOT THERE. MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE MOST STRIPPED DOWN PRICE YOU COULD FIND? I WENT OFF OF IT. ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE NOTE IS NOT THE MOST STRIPPED DOWN. I WENT OFF OF CHEESE. YEAH, SOME LIGHTS PUT ON HIS A FEW YEARS AGO, AND THAT COST MAY BE MORE NOW, SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET AN ESTIMATE OF. I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE LESS, NOT MORE. NO, SIR. IT COULD BE STRIPPED DOWN, YES. I'M JUST THINKING CORRESPONDING NEEDS, RIGHT? I'M NOT SAYING OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE A LICENSED PEACE OFFICER, AND YOU CAN STILL PERFORM THOSE DUTIES, BUT FOR WHAT IT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR, SO IF THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S NEEDED FOR, THEN WHY COULD WE NOT GO WITH A LITTLE MORE STRIPPED DOWN VERSION? I THINK IF YOU WANT TO RUN ONE RED LIGHT DEAL AND I GET HIT, WE'RE STILL JUST AS LIABLE IF WE HAD ALL THE LIGHTS ON IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S WHY I NEED MORE FRONT, BACK, SIDES. THAT'S WHERE THE, I DON'T KNOW THE REALITY ON THAT. IN ORDER TO OPERATE AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE, THE TRANSPORTATION CODE TELLS YOU WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE ON THERE. IT HAS TO BE VISIBLE 360 DEGREES IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN EMERGENCY TRAFFIC. 
          WELL, OKAY, BUT EVEN THEN, THE LIGHT BARS, I'M SURE, HAVE TO COME IN VARIABLE SIZES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M JUST SAYING, WE CAN STILL DO 360, BUT I DON'T KNOW, DOES IT NEED TO BE? I'M JUST TRYING TO. 
          IT'S GOT TO HAVE AN AUDIBLE SIGNAL, SO HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SIREN. YES, THERE ARE 
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CHEAPER VERSIONS OF LIGHTS. I FORGET WHAT THE BRAND NAME IS. 
          BUT I HAVE. IT'S A CHEAP VERSION. I DON'T, TEMU. 
          SHEIN. THAT'S NOT MY NAME. I MEAN, COULD YOU NOT MIX AND MATCH? COULD YOU NOT TAKE SOMETHING FROM, LIKE, THE CHIEFS HAD, AND THEN ENHANCE IT SOMEHOW? STILL BE COST SAVINGS? MINE ARE THE CHEAPEST THAT YOU COULD BUY, THE CHEAPEST VERSION YOU COULD BUY. BUT I'M SAYING, STRIP DOWN OFF OF ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT'S NO LONGER RUNNING, AND THEN IF WE NEED TO GO OUT AND MAKE PURCHASES TO BEEF IT UP TO MORE. THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE LIGHTS ARE THAT THEY DON'T WORK TOGETHER. 
          THEY DON'T WORK TOGETHER. AND WHENEVER SOMETHING NEW COMES OUT, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT WORK. 
          SO IT WOULD BE, I WOULDN'T SUGGEST GOING TO SOMETHING NEW, BECAUSE IF YOU GET SOMETHING OLD, YOU'RE PUTTING THE CITY IN A LOT OF TROUBLE. THOSE LIGHTS DON'T WORK. I'M SORRY, SIR. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE. I PUT LIGHTS IN POLICE CARS FOR NINE YEARS. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I'VE SEEN THAT. SO YOU START MIXING AND MATCHING LIKE THAT, BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU LOOK LIKE A COCKPIT IN THE 747. AND THAT'S A VEHICLE TRYING TO TURN THE FRONT LIGHTS ON, THE BACK LIGHTS, YOU KNOW. 
          BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALWAYS MIX TOGETHER. IT'S NOT JUST WHERE YOU THROW 12 LOADS IN ONE SWITCH. IT'S NOT TOGETHER ANYMORE, AS FAR AS THAT. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND, I JUST I DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT EXPLORING IF Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO DO IT, I KEEP GOING ON DOING IT. I'M JUST SAYING, IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RESPOND OR GO OUT HERE AND. HE COULD ALWAYS GO TO THE PD AND PICK UP A TROLL CAR IF HE NEEDED TO GET SOMEWHERE IN A HURRY. 
          AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, YES, HE NEEDS TO BE THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW OURS CAME OUT, MINE CAME OUT OF SEIZURE, AND IT WAS THE MINIMAL THAT WE COULD GET. AND IT WAS ABOUT $6,000. YOU THINK WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET $6,000 OUT OF THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR? ABSOLUTELY. AND TAKE CARE OF IT, AND THEN WE TAKE IT OUT OF THIS BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I GOT HIM COVERED, MAYOR. I THINK YOU DO. I GOT HIM COVERED. YEAH, I DO SEE IT AS A PLUS. IF HE HAS A LIGHTED VEHICLE. BECAUSE THE TIME TO GET PAST BARRICADE, BARRICADE, SHOWING HIS BADGE, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE PRECIOUS SECONDS. 
          THAT HE NEEDS TO BE ON SCENE TO HELP COORDINATE OR SOMETHING. 
          ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL GET HIM SOMETHING OUT OF HIS BUDGET. 
          LET'S GET HIM TAKEN CARE OF, BUT TAKE IT OUT OF THIS BUDGET. WE'LL MOVE IT INTO THIS BUDGET, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, CURRENT BUDGET. THE NEXT DAY, I MOVED UP TO TRAVEL AND TRAINING. 
          TRAINING NOW IS ALMOST TRIPLE OR DOUBLE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. JUST THE LAST TIME I'VE BEEN UP TO THE NEXT MEETING OF THE CONFERENCE. I HAD MY BROTHER GO WITH ME BECAUSE HE'S FROM THERE, SO HE BROUGHT ME OUT TO CLASS EVERY DAY. AND THAT SAVED ME ALMOST $400 JUST TO PARK IN THE GARAGE. SO THAT'S VERY LOW AS FAR AS GOING, BY THE TIME YOU PAY FOR A MOTEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THERE'S SOME CLASSES THAT I'M REQUIRED TO PAY. I DON'T THINK THAT 04,000 MAY NOT WORK AROUND. SO THAT WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THAT BACK UP. I SUPPORT THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE PUT YOU IN THIS POSITION. WE NEED TO GET YOU TRAINED AND YOU NEED MORE EXPOSURE, SO I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, 4,000 IS PROBABLY NOT MUCH FOR WHAT YOU NEED, BUT I THINK YOU CAN BE RESOURCEFUL AND FIND OPPORTUNITIES ALL AROUND. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR WITH UTILIZING FAMILY AND EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID MORE OFTEN ABOUT WHAT OUR STAFF DOES. WE WORK ON SHOESTRING AROUND HERE, AND I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT. 
          PEOPLE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT BEING SMART WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          SAVING ON PARKING. SOMETHING SIMPLE AS THAT. THIS WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. SAVING ON PARKING AND RENTAL CARS. 
          THAT'S A DOUBLE, WHAMMY. THE ENTERPRISE VEHICLE LEASE GOES AWAY. IT'S ALREADY BEEN 
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PURCHASED. YEP. WE DID THAT THIS YEAR. YES. ALL RIGHT. 
          YEP. ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST. THAT'S A SAVINGS OF $5,000 RIGHT THERE. SO WE'LL TAKE CARE OF YOUR LIGHTING THIS YEAR. SO YOU HAVE TO DO BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH. THANK YOU, SUSAN. HE'S GOING TO GET A NEW ONE. HE'LL GET THAT ONE. IT WORKED. IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE CHIEF. IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE CHIEF. DON'T FOLLOW JASON NEXT YEAR. WE'RE GOOD. 
          HOW YOU LIKING IT? ALL OF IT. I'M DEDICATED TO THIS. 
          I'M KEEPING WHERE HE BELONGS. 
          WHERE YOU NEED ME. I WILL SAY HE'S STILL HELPING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HE'S KEEPING UP WITH THE RANGE. HE'S HELPING THE TRANSITION WITH LAND. HE IS DEFINITELY DOING A GOOD JOB IN BOTH AREAS AND KEEPING ALL OF US INFORMED, KEEPING ME INFORMED. AND HEY, DO YOU THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW THIS? YES OR NO? AND HE'S DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WHERE HE'S AT AND HELPING US ALSO AT THE PD TRANSITION. HE'S STILL HELPING WITH TRAINING. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING ABLE TO WEAR MORE THAN ONE HAT. 
          THAT ALWAYS COMES IN HANDY IN A CITY OUR SIZE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF. COMING OVER HERE AND NOT KNOWING ANYTHING, THEY'VE ALL BEEN VERY HELPFUL. 
          SOON ENOUGH, YOU WON'T HAVE TO STAY IN A DUNGEON. MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW. I MAY BE IN ANOTHER CLUB HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU. THE NEXT PERSON WOULD BE THE MUNICIPAL COURT. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR STAFFING. I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE IN THERE RIGHT NOW? YOU USED TO HAVE TWO CLERKS, RIGHT? AND HAVE YOU SEEN AN ISSUE WITH SERVICE LEVELS DURING THAT TIME? HOURS ARE STILL THE SAME, RIGHT? HOURS ARE STILL THE SAME. FRIDAY'S NOW. FRIDAY'S BEEN CLOSED. 
          Y'ALL DON'T DO THE 980 SCHEDULE, YOU DO? YES, WE DO. 
          YOU DO THE 980 SCHEDULE? SO YOU BOTH JUST ALTERNATE ONE PERSON ONE FRIDAY, ONE PERSON THE OTHER FRIDAY? RIGHT, MAKES SENSE. IS IT, JUST SAYING, IS THE TICKET LEVEL DOWN SO MUCH THAT WE CAN NOT HAVE TO BRING SOMEBODY ELSE IN? YES, IT IS. AND, I MEAN, I'LL ADMIT THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S AN ADVANTAGE FOR THEM. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL SAY SOMETHING FOR SHE'S BEEN IN THIS SPOT AND SHE'S BEEN PUT ON THE SPOT BY HAVING AN EMPLOYEE LEAVE. 
          SHE HAD SOMEBODY IN THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. SHE'S DONE ONE HECK OF A JOB. HER, AND AND AND THE OTHER PERSON IN THERE, SHE'S INTERVIEWING RIGHT NOW FOR THAT OTHER SPOT. AND UH, SUSIE'S ALSO FOUND SOME MONEY TO GIVE HER A PART-TIME PERSON IN THERE TO HELP HER OUT. 
          GOOD, SO WITH OUR STAFFING GETTING BETTER AT THE PD, AND, UH, 
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IVAN RODRIGUEZ BACK, EITHER, ONE MAN SHOWS. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS REPORT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THOSE TICKET LEVELS BACK UP. IT'S NOT ABOUT RIDING TICKETS, IT'S ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ABOUT BEING SAFE OUT THERE ON THE ROAD. SO I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW AS A COUNCIL THAT THE DEPUTY'S DONE ONE HECK OF A JOB SINCE SHE'S BEEN IN THAT SPOT. SO SHE CONTINUES TO DO WELL AND AND HER HEALTH IS DOING WELL. AND SOMETIMES A ONE-MAN SHOW, THEY'RE RUNNING COURT. AND I'VE COME UP HERE AND I'VE WATCHED THEM. I CAN VISIT FOR ABOUT 15 SECONDS, THEN THE PHONE RINGS OR SOMEBODY IS AT THE WINDOW. 
          BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE. 
          AND, YEAH, WE CLOSE. AND SHE CALLS. SHE SAYS, HEY, I NEED TO CLOSE TODAY. OR, HEY, I'M GOING HOME. OR, HEY, I DON'T FEEL GOOD. OR, HEY, MY HEALTH DOESN'T FEEL GOOD. 
          AND SHE'S ALWAYS KEEPING ME INFORMED. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE HER ALL THE KUDOS. SHE TOOK OVER THE DIRECTOR AND SHE'S DOING ONE HECK OF A JOB. I DO ALSO WANT TO COMMENT THAT IN THE PAST, YOUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR WOULD NOT WORK THE WINDOWS. RIGHT. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT HAS REALLY HELPED THAT SHE DOES GO OUT THERE AND WORK THE WINDOWS. 
          AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH JUST TWO PEOPLE. IT IS VERY HECTIC THERE. ON FRIDAYS, IT'S JUST ONE PERSON, AND THAT'S WHY THEY DO HAVE TO CLOSE FOR LUNCH. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, BOTH OF THEM ARE OUT THERE. AS EQUALS. AND THEY DO TO GET THE JOB DONE. OKAY. 
          GOOD. THE POSITIONS THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF, CHIEF, ARE THOSE REFLECTED IN HERE, SUSIE? YES. 
          BUT YOU DON'T SHOW THE INCREASE. YOU JUST SHOW THEM IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          BECAUSE WE FOUND THE MONEY WITHIN THE BUDGET. THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE BUDGET. 
          THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE BUDGET. 
          FOR ANYBODY THAT'S ADDED, THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE BUDGET, EXCEPT IF YOU GIVE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS A POSITION. 
          OTHERWISE, THE MONEY HAS BEEN MOVED AROUND. AND WE MOVED THIS TO THAT, AND MARTHA IS TAKING THE BANNERS BACK. THEY'RE OPERATING WITHIN THEIR CURRENT. 
          THEY'RE OPERATING WITHIN THEIR OWN BUSINESS. 
          ANOTHER WAY THAT THESE GUYS AND GALS HAVE REALLY PUT THEIR HEADS DOWN AND TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS. THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. GOOD TO HEAR. YOU'RE NOT THROUGH. 
          YOU'RE NOT THROUGH. THAT'S RIGHT. SHE HAS THE SPECIAL FUNDS. COURT TECHNOLOGY. COURT FUNDS. FUNDS, BUT WE TOO, WE LEGISLATED FOR NEW LAW BECAUSE SMALL AND FORCED-TO-STRUCTURAL, THEY DID A NINE. 
          BUT THE COURT-TAX FUND AND THE SECURITY FUND NOW ARE IN THE LEFT. AND WHY YOU STILL SEE MONEY IN SEVEN AND EIGHT IS BECAUSE IT HAS TO REMAIN THERE UNTIL WE USE THAT MONEY. WE CANNOT DO IT. I'M NOT CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. THE MAINTENANCE FEE. 
          AND AS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN FUND 8, WHICH IS YOUR SECURITY FUND, IT DOES HAVE A GOOD-SIZED FUND BALANCE. SO BETWEEN DANIELLE AND I SPOKE TO JASON, WE NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING. SOME TYPE OF SECURITY MEASURES THAT WE DO NEED FOR THE COURT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE PAID OUT OF THIS FUND. 
          TECHNOLOGY? NO, THE TECHNOLOGY IS FUND SEVEN, AND THAT HAS BEEN DEFEATED. IT 
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WILL BE OTHER THAN $3,000 NEXT YEAR. SO THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS ALL IN THE SECURITY? IN THE SECURITY FUND. OKAY, DON'T GO CRAZY, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ONCE THOSE TWO FUNDS ARE DEFEATED, THEN YOU CAN USE IT FOR EITHER ONE IN THE COMBINED FUND. JASON, ARE YOU BACK THERE? YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF ANYTHING THAT? YEAH, JUST. 
          INITIALLY. WE ARE STARTING TO MIGRATE TO A NEW SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEM, SO SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT COULD DEFINITELY BE CHARGED OFF TO THAT SECURITY FUND. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT. SUSIE TOLD ME HOW MUCH MONEY WAS IN THE HOUSE. I WAS LIKE, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO SPEND THAT STRICTLY ON SECURITY FOR MUNICIPAL COURT. VIDEO MAGISTRATION. VIDEO MAGISTRATION, WE COULD. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND SECURITY FOR THE JUDGES, AND SECURITY FOR THE COURT, SECURITY FOR THE CITY HALL. YEAH. HE'S ALMOST GOT VIDEO MATCH TRADING, WHICH MEANS THAT THE JUDGE CAN GO FROM WHEREVER THEY'RE AT. 
          AND THAT COULD FUND ANY ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED FOR THAT, YES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. GOOD IDEA. THE METAL DETECTOR. THE METAL DETECTOR, THE HUGE ONE. YEAH. 
          AND IT JUST CAME OUT. SO NOW WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S OPERATING? THE WAND. SO I KNOW THAT DISCUSSING IT ONE TIME, I'M GETTING A NUMBER. 
          BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT. WHAT IS IT? IS IT? IS IT? DO YOU STILL HAVE THE OLD ONE? BOTH OF THEM. YEAH. YOUR OTHER FUND THAT YOU HAVE IS YOUR CHILD SAFETY FUND THAT'S ALSO RECEIVED FROM THE TICKETS. AND THAT IS WHAT WE USED TO USE FOR OUR CROSSWALKERS, AND SINCE WE DON'T DO THE CROSSWALKERS ANYMORE. ALL THAT'S REALLY COMING OUT OF HERE IS FOR ANY PROGRAMS OR ANY OF THE STRIPING THAT WE DO, OR THE LIGHTS FOR THE SCHOOL. 
          SO WE ALSO HAVE $23,000 IN FUND BALANCE. THAT DIDN'T GO FAR, DOES IT, HECTOR? I DID NOT KNOW THAT EXISTED. YOU MEAN, WAS THAT BALANCE? WELL, NOT ALL OF THEM. THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET ME FAR, BUT I CAN, YEAH. 
          I'LL GET THE TOP TWO THAT ARE BAD. I WAS EVEN THINKING, I MEAN, I HAD TO GET BACK INTO THAT GAME, BUT YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING. I TELL YOU, IF WE'RE DOING THAT, I THINK WE COULD DO A SITE BETTER UNTRAINED THAN WHAT WAS DONE OUT THERE ON 523. IT'S A PRETTY PATHETIC STRIKE. IF ANYBODY NEEDS AN EMPLOYMENT RANDOM DRUG TEST, THOSE WOULD BE THE ONES. WE COULD PROBABLY GET THAT GUY PRETTY CHEAP. WE'D BE A MONTH UP. CHIEF TOLTEC STOPPED OUT THE OTHER DAY IN THE MEETING. I THINK THAT GUY NEEDS TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER JOB, MAN. 
          SOME THINGS PEOPLE ARE CUT OUT FOR, THEN THERE ARE THOSE. THOSE ARE ALL YOUR FUNDS TO DO. $23,000? YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT, HECTOR, YOU DO NOT HAVE A STRIPING MACHINE. NO, HE GOT TO HIRE ONE. I DO NOT KNOW. WE USED TO. YEAH, WE USED TO. I ACTUALLY REMEMBER USING IT THE FIRST TIME I WORKED HERE. I THINK MY LINES LOOK LIKE THAT GUY'S. GIVE YOURSELVES MORE CREDIT. WE KNOW WHERE THE MACHINE WENT. OKAY, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE CHIEF, AND I WILL BE DOING THAT FOR HIM. THAT WOULD BE THE ADMINISTRATION FUND. IT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND, ZERO, ZERO. 
          IN THE ADMINISTRATION FUND, THERE ARE NO CHANGES AT ALL. 
          THE BUDGET HAS REMAINED THE SAME. OKAY. BUT THERE'S NO 
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CHANGES. THE OTHER THING WE'LL BE DOING IS THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUND. OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE REMEMBERS OTHER THAN JOHN, PROBABLY. 
          YOUR CAPITAL PROJECT FUND IS YOUR 2015 BOND. THE 2015 BOND IS 523 AND THE 220 ADDITIONS THAT WE DID. BASICALLY, THE 528 IS, THE 524 IS WHERE THEY PAY FOR THE IMPACT FEE. SO WHENEVER WE COLLECT, WHENEVER WE HAVE A NEW BUSINESS COMING INTO THOSE AREAS, THEY PAY THE IMPACT FEE AND IT GETS PUT INTO FUND. 124. FUND 128 IS WHERE THE ACTUAL PAYMENT IS COLLECTED FOR THAT PARTICULAR BOND. WE CHARGE A $2 FEE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT IN THE IMPACT FEE AREA. AND IT GETS DIVERTED TO FUND 128. AND I PAY FOR THE BOND ANY REMAINING FUNDS THAT GOES INTO THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS 354, 000. THAT IS TO BE USED STRICTLY FOR THOSE TWO AREAS THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE. IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE WATER OR SEWER FOR A PARTICULAR BUSINESS TO BE TIED INTO THAT AREA, THIS IS WHERE YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY FOR. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO FUNDS THAT ARE IN THAT CAPITAL FUND. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT BOND WILL BE PAID OFF IN 2035. THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT MONEY'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE USED PROBABLY PRETTY SOON. I'M SORRY, JOHN? I SAID THAT MONEY'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE USED PRETTY SOON, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THE BORING? YES, SIR. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO COMBINE BOTH OF THEM. BUT THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER INITIAL PAYMENT FOR THE IMPACT FEE. OKAY. IT'S FOR BORING. THEY'RE ASKING WHAT THE BORING IS FOR. THAT IS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE GOING IN ON 523. 
          WE HAVE TO GO UNDERNEATH THE ROAD TO GET THEM SEWER AND WATER. I SEE. 
          BUT THEY DO HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES. AND THEY WILL BE COMING INTO THE CITY, SO THEY WILL HAVE PROPERTY TAX. 
          PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX. 
          THE NEXT PERSON THAT WOULD BE MYSELF. FINANCE DEPARTMENT, HAD NO CHANGES AT ALL. OKAY. 
          512, WHICH IS YOUR TAX DEPARTMENT. THAT IS WHAT I PAID THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO SEND OUT THE PROPERTY VALUES. 
          SINCE WE KEPT THE SAME BUDGET FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT WAS NOT CHANGED, BUT WE ARE ALREADY CLOSE TO 78,000 RIGHT NOW. SO I HAD TO INCREASE IT. I HAVE AN INCREASE OF 20,000 TO MAKE IT 85. THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER. THIS BILL IS SENT TO US QUARTERLY, TO BE PAID QUARTERLY. SO WHO RAISED IT, THE COUNTY? IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT ARE BEING SENT OUT, JOHN. SO THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT HAVE INCREASED. 
          BUT WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THAT $65,000 FOR TWO YEARS. SO EVEN IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, I WILL HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO FIX IT. THE NEXT FUND IS YOUR DEBT SERVICE. 
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FOR THE TAX THING, IS THAT SOMETHING FOR THE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN, ANOTHER ADDED FEE? THE IMPACT FEE? WELL, WHAT? NO, THE SPECIAL SERVICES ON THE TAX. 
          YEAH, FOR THE SPECIAL SERVICES ON THE TAX. NO, THAT IS STRICTLY FOR THE IMPACT FEE. 
          TO SEND OUT THE PARCELS. NO, I'M SAYING, ARE WE PAYING THAT? YES. SO I'M SAYING, IS THAT. IS IT REIMBURSABLE THAT WE CHARGE. 
          AN INCREASE WE CAN ADD SOMEWHERE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR EACH LOT THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN. NO, THIS IS THAT WHEN YOU GET YOUR PROPERTY TAX VALUES, THAT IS THAT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR WHEN YOU GET YOUR VALUES EVERY YEAR BEFORE. SO YOU CAN GO TO THE TAX OFFICE. I MEAN TO THE PRICE OF DISTRICT AND YOU WANT TO CONTEST IT, SO CAN YOU ADD THAT YOU? MAKE A FEE TO THE DEVELOPER WHEN HE DECIDES TO SEND GO. 
          ABOUT 500 LOTS. 
          FOR THE NEW ONES, MAYBE, BUT FOR US OR FOR YOU, YOU'VE HAD YOUR HOME. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SINCE IT'S GOING UP BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING MORE LOTS COMING IN, THAT'S SOMETHING TO TACK ON TO THEIR FEE. I'D HAVE TO CHECK THIS OUT. I REALLY AM NOT SURE ON THAT. OKAY. HOW ABOUT WE START GOING AUTOMATED AND NOT HAVING TO SEND A BUNCH OF STUFF OUT? WILL IT GO UP AGAIN? YES. I MEAN, $20,000 IS A BIG HIT. WELL, IT HADN'T BEEN INCREASED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, BARBARA. AND SO THE APPRAISAL DID GO UP. DISTRICT HAD AN INCREASE, NO. WE HAD A NICE STAR BUDGET, WE'VE BEEN IN, WE'VE BEEN ABSORBING IT, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN SHOWING IT IN OUR BUDGET. THAT'S THE QUESTION. SO WE SHOULD HAVE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCREASED. 
          YES, MA'AM, AND I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT SERVICE FUND IS THE FUND WHERE WE GATHER ALL THE REVENUE TO PAY OUR BONDS. SO BASICALLY, IT'S THE HOLDING PLACE FOR GET YOUR I&S PORTION OF PROPERTY TAXES TO BE BROUGHT IN. AND THEN I COLLECT THE TRANSFER FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT, ABLC, AND THE OTHER SOURCES. IS THAT FUND 128. THAT IS ALL THIS CLUB IS. I DID GIVE YOU A NEW PRINTOUT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE BOOK. IT'S SOMETHING EASIER FOR YOU TO READ. THAT'S HOW I USED TO DO IT WHEN I WAS A KID. 
          HERE, THE FIRST TIME AROUND, IT SHOWS YOU, YEAH, SHOWS YOU HELPING. 
          ON THIS WHOLE. THE SECTION GENERAL FUND AND AND WHAT THE TOTALS ARE, AS YOU CAN SEE, A TOTAL BONDS FOR THIS YEAR IS $2,115,000. 
          IT'S THE TOTAL GOVERNMENTAL. 
          THE NON-GOVERNMENTAL, WHICH IS YOUR WATER, IS ALSO $2,218,000. SO, THE TOTAL DEBT IS $4,334,000 ANNUAL PAYMENT. 
          AND THEN IT GOES INTO YOUR GENERAL FUND AND STREET FUND. 
          AND ON THE BOTTOM, IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT OF THE BOND WAS, AND FOR WHAT IT WAS FOR. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT FORMAT OF WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN THE BOOK. AND I'LL PROBABLY STICK WITH THIS FORMAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO. I MOVE ON TO SPECIAL EVENTS AGAIN. 
          FUND 19. FUND 19 IS YOUR CAPITAL REVOLVING FUND. THIS FUND IS WHERE I HAD HAD LIKE FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THIS FUND. IT WAS FOR PROPERTY THAT WAS SOLD TO THE RAILROAD COMPANY AND WE PUT THIS IN THIS FUND FOR US TO START. PURCHASING SOME VEHICLES AND BEING PAID BACK INTERNALLY OURSELVES. WELL, SUSIE DOESN'T TELL YOU, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL SUSIE'S BANK. THAT'S THE ACCOUNT. 
          CORRECT. THIS PARTICULAR FUND IS WHAT I USED LAST YEAR. HERE 
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THIS YEAR TO GIVE $50,000 TO THE GENERAL FUND AND $50,000 TO THE WATER FUND. SO I CAN START PURCHASING VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE WITH ENTERPRISE AND START FINANCING OURSELVES AND START GETTING OUT OF ENTERPRISE. SO, IT HAS THE $50,000 TRANSFER TO FUND 114 AND THE $50,000 TRANSFER TO FUND 115. 
          BUT AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP, I'M ONLY TRANSFERRING FROM FUND BALANCE $74,000. AND THAT IS BECAUSE LAST YEAR I DID THE SAME THING AND NOW THE WATER FUND IS PAYING ME BACK $12,291 AND THE GENERAL FUND $12,375. BECAUSE I BUY THESE VEHICLES AND THEY'RE SET UP TO PAY ME BACK IN THREE YEARS. SO THEY GO INTO A BANK AND BORROW THE MONEY, BORROW FROM THEMSELVES AND PAY INTEREST. SHE ACTUALLY CHARGES INTEREST, TOO, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS. 
          YES, SHE DOES. BUT IT'S A WAY OF US SUSTAINING OURSELVES, WHICH HER PREDECESSORS WERE NOT DOING PROPERLY. THE OTHER SIDE TO THAT IS THE FUND ITSELF. 
          114 IS THE GOVERNMENTAL FUND, WHICH WILL BE YOUR GENERAL FUND. THERE'S THE $50,000, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY PAY BACK, ED, AND THE VOTES. DEVELOPMENT SERVICE, THEY GOT THE USE OF THAT. AND THEN THE WATER FUND IS THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          AND I HAVE TWO VEHICLES ON THAT AND THAT PAYS ME BACK THE $12,000. SO BASICALLY, THOSE ARE THOSE FUNDS. THE OTHER FUND I HAVE IS THE UNEMPLOYMENT FUND. THAT IS ALSO PART OF THAT MONEY THAT WE INITIALLY HAD. I INITIALLY PUT $50,000 IN THERE, AND NOW I HAVE $55,000 DUE TO THE FACT OF INTEREST AND SOME OVERPAYMENTS. THIS FUND IS USED IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIM DURING THE YEAR SINCE WE'RE SELF-FUNDING. 
          UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS ARE NOT BUDGETED IN ANY DEPARTMENT AT ALL. THEY COME OUT OF THIS DEPARTMENT. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I LOOK TO SEE WHAT HAS BEEN CHARGED AND WHO. AND WHAT DEPARTMENT IS CHARGED? AND I MAKE THAT DEPARTMENT PAY BACK BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE $50,000 WITHIN THIS FUND AT ALL TIMES. THIS FUND IS ALSO USED IN CASE WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF ALLEGATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY. AND THAT FUND WILL PAY ME BACK, BACK TO THIS FUND, INSTEAD OF IT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, WATER FUND, OR WHATEVER THAT INITIATED FROM. THE NEXT ONE, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CHARGE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS YOUR JAMESON PROJECT. 
          THE JAMESON PROJECT IT'S A TERSE, SO WE INITIATE IT, AND IT WILL NOT TERMINATE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST OF 2035. 
          IT SAID TERMINATE. EVER SINCE IT GOT SOLD, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PAY THE PARTNERS THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN PAID FOR THAT PROPERTY. 
          SO IT HAS BEEN ACCUMULATED, AND I HAVE $130,000 IN THAT FUND BALANCE. AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL $28,000 THAT HAS BEEN PAID THIS YEAR. IF THIS TERM IS TO BE TERMINATED, THIS MONEY WILL GO BACK INTO YOUR CURRENT TAXES, WHICH IS IN YOUR GENERAL FUND. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER, TO CHECK, TO SEE WHAT THE LEGALITY PORTION OF THAT IS. AS LONG AS WE KEEP IT IN CHARGE, THE TAX COLLECTIONS WILL KEEP IT AS A CHARGE, AND IT CANNOT BE INTERMINGLED. 
          CAN I SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. TWO FINANCE DIRECTORS AGO, I BROUGHT THIS TO THEM TO SAY THAT THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. AND THAT BY READING THE CONTRACT, OF THE TERMS, OF THE TERMS THAT 
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WE SHOULD DISSOLVE IT. SO THAT WE DIDN'T KEEP SENDING PAYMENTS THAT WERE BEING SENT BACK TO US BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY WERE. THE NEW COMPANY WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THIS MONEY? AND SO SUSIE'S LIKE, WELL, UNDER THE THE LAW, I'M GOING TO JUST PUT IT TO THE SIDE. 
          BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO UTILIZE IT, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND DISSOLVE THE CONTRACT. AGREED. SO. IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. 
          YEAH. I HAVE ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT I SENT TO JUDITH AT THE TIME, THAT HAS THE BACK STORY, ALL OF THAT. WE CAN START ALL OVER AGAIN AND GET THAT GOING AGAIN. 
          I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A CASE FOR THAT. CAN WE TALK TO SCOTT, THE RANDALL LAW FIRM? SURE. IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO HAVE TO PAY LEGAL FEES TWICE, BUT I UNDERSTAND GOING THROUGH AND GETTING THIS DONE, BUT THAT'S SOUR. THERE AREN'T THAT MANY, AS MANY BILLABLE HOURS IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THE PACKET THAT JUDITH LEFT. 
          HOPEFULLY IT WON'T COST US THAT MUCH. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S COST US MONEY, BUT WE IT'S TO GET OUT FROM UNDER IT. SO WITH THE TML GROUP, HELP US AT ALL, I'LL BET YOU THEY'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN SOMEWHERE. 
          THEY'VE GOT THE EXPERTISE. 
          MOST LIKELY, BEFORE WE GO, SPEND BILLABLE HOURS FOR THE WHOLE TIME, I'LL TAKE A MOMENT ASKING. 
          IT'S SOUNDING TO ME FROM THE TERMS OF THE TERMS THAT WE COULD BRING IT FORTH AND WE COULD DISSOLVE IT. 
          BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. RIGHT. AND WE HAVE A NEW ENTITY THAT'S LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. TALKING ABOUT SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE PRETTY EASY. 
          SO SO TML MAY BITE, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO GO THROUGH TML FIRST. THEN THEY SAY, HEY, GO TO YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, THEN WE GO THERE, AND THEN THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEND SOMETHING. AND YEAH, FUND 137 IS YOUR EMERGENCY NOTE FUND. THAT IS WHERE ALL THE MONEY WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN BEFORE IT GOT USED TO PAY ALL YOUR BURIAL EXPENSES. WHAT I HAVE PUT IN THERE IS THE $117,901. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE LEFT TO TRANSFER. THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT I HAVE DESIGNATED THAT MONEY FOR. I DO HAVE $30,000 THAT IS PENDING FOR A MATCH FOR TWO GENERATOR GRANTS THAT I HAVE. RIGHT. HOW MUCH? $30,000. IS THAT IT, SUSIE? YOUR NEXT SECTION WOULD BE THE GRANTS. WE HAVE THE VOCA GRANT. THAT'S AN ONGOING GRANT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT IS BEING FUNDED. EVERYTHING IS GOING GOOD THERE. THERE IS NO FUND BALANCES IN THE VOCA GRANT. GRANT. I HAVE THE FEMA BARREL, THAT'S THE ANTICIPATION OF MY 2 MILLION AID. AND THERE'S THE 30,015 THAT GOES FOR BOTH OF THOSE GRANTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE THERE. WE HAVE THE GLO GRANT, FUND 138 FOR LIFT STATION NUMBER EIGHT. 
          RIGHT. AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE FINISHING THIS COMING BUDGET. 
          NOT THIS BUDGET. WELL, IN THE NEXT BUDGET, YES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE LIFT STATION NUMBER 24. THE COMP STUDY 77 IS THE GRANT THAT OTIS IS ADMINISTERING. WE HAVE THE GRANTS FOR THE REC CENTER AND THEN WE HAVE THE GRANT FOR ABIGAIL. THOSE ARE ALL YOUR 
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GRANTS. OF COURSE, THE OTHER THING I HAVE IS ALL YOUR PIDS. 
          WE HAVE PID GREEN TRAILS, GREYSTONE, TIGER RESERVE, RIVERWOOD, AND RIVERWOOD NORTH. AND THOSE ARE ALL OF YOUR PITS. YOUR TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE WHOLE. ALL OF YOUR BUDGET IS $69 MILLION. 
          THAT INCREASES OR DECREASES EVERY YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY GRANTS YOU HAVE OUT, HOW MANY BONDS YOU HAVE OUT. 
          SO THAT FLUCTUATES EVERY YEAR. 
          69 MILLION, 641, 490 IS THE TOTAL BUDGET. MY QUESTION IS TO GO BACK TO YOUR GENERAL FUND. HOLD ON BEFORE YOU GO THAT WAY. OKAY. 
          DO YOU WANT TO BRING UP TO COUNCIL YOUR IDEA ON THE STREETS? YES. OKAY. YOU MIGHT WANT TO COME FORWARD TO THE FRONT. I AM. I'M GOING TO GET MY PAPERS. THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK YOU IN THE EYE WHEN YOU GIVE THIS TO THEM. SUSIE'S BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH. SHE'S GOT SOME IDEAS. I LIKE THAT. WHAT DO I BRING IT TO Y'ALL? I'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I FOUND OUT THAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A $5 TRANSPORTATION FEE. FOR ORDINANCE, THIS FEE IS RESTRICTED. 
          STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND DRAINAGE. I SPOKE TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITY THAT DOES HAVE THIS, AND IT'S NOT AN OPTION OR A DONATION. THEY MADE IT MANDATORY. BUT THEY DID START AS A DONATION, AND THEY DID NOT GET ENOUGH FEEDBACK FOR THIS. 
          SO THEY MADE IT MANDATORY. OUR WATER BILL EVERY MONTH GIVES US HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR DONATIONS. 
          THEY VARY BETWEEN 2,400 AND 03,007 THAT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE DONATIONS. IF YOU WERE TO DO IT AS A DONATION, MAYBE $2,500, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU $150,000. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT MANDATORY. LOOK BACK ON EARLIER ON WHAT YOU DID. 
          TRY TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT A $10 MILLION BOND WOULD ACTUALLY COST YOU. $750,000. IF WE CAN INCORPORATE THE DONATION THAT'S DISTRIBUTED TO THE STREET FUND AND SELL IT, THAT IF YOU DONATE THE $5 ON YOUR WATER BILL AND WE GO OUT FOR A STREET FUND, THAT WILL LESSEN THE AMOUNT THAT WILL BE CHARGED TO YOU FOR THE FUND PAYMENT. SO, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO UP $0.07, YOU CAN GO UP $0.04. 
          SYSTEM OPTIONS. YEAH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING SHE FOUND IN HERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO COME UP OR PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE STREET. IF WE TOOK THIS AND ADDED THE 3% THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, OF THE INCREASE OF YOUR SALES TAX, WHICH WAS $166,000, AND NOW IT'S $420,000, THAT WOULD HELP YOU. 
          AND NOT ACTUALLY CHARGE IT ON YOUR. IT WOULDN'T RAISE TAXES. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE A MANDATORY ON THE BILL. BUT THAT WOULD MAKE IT MANDATORY. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. IT COULD START AS A VOLUNTEER, OR IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DONATE $5 ON THEIR BILL, THEY COULD. WE CAN TRY AS A DONATION IN C-COUNTY. AND WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT GENERATED TOTAL? OKAY, SO I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. SHE DID NOT TELL ME. 
          SHE JUST SAID THAT AS A DONATION. IT WAS INSIGNIFICANT. OKAY. WHAT PROTECTIONS COULD WE GIVE TO TAXPAYERS? TO ENSURE THAT IF THEY MADE A DONATION FOR QUOTE UNQUOTE STREET FUND, 
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IT WAS ONLY USED FOR STREET FUND AND NOT PULLED AWAY TO SOME OTHER PROJECT? THE FEE IS BASED ON VOTING. IF YOU'D JUST LIKE TO VOTE, WE HAVE THE RESTRICTION OF THE TAX. THAT WENT STRAIGHT TO THE POLICE. IT'S A RESTRICTION. YOU CAN'T MOVE IT AROUND, YOU HAVE TO USE IT. I CAN'T MOVE IT AROUND. THAT'S WHAT I JUST, I THINK, WOULD, FOR THE EDUCATE, TO EDUCATE THE VOTE, TO EDUCATE THE CITIZEN. I WOULD IMAGINE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WOULD BE HESITANT TO GIVE THE CITY MORE MONEY WITHOUT ASSURANCES OR PROTECTIONS. THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE USED STRICTLY FOR STREETS, AS IF IT COULD BE PICKED OFF TO USE FOR OTHER AREAS. AND THIS WAY, IF STREET FUNDS ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU, THEN YOU MAY BE MORE LIKELY TO DONATE. BUT IF IT WAS AN AREA THAT WAS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU, THEN MAYBE IT WAS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU, AND THEREFORE YOU WOULD NOT. I DON'T KNOW. I PERSONALLY WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT MONEY, IF I MADE IT A DONATION, COULD ONLY BE USED FOR A STREET FUND AND NOT PICKED OFF TO SAY, AND YOU KNOW, I LOVE T	REES, BUT, SAY, KEEP BEING WITH THEM BEAUTIFUL AND WE'RE GOING TO PLANT SOME TREES. 
          WELL, KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL, WE DONATE TO THAT. I'M JUST, IT WAS AN EXAMPLE. NO, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THAT FUND. I JUST MEANT, IF, OKAY. IF YOU WERE TO DONATE TO THAT, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO A STREET OR A RETREAT. 
          FORGET, KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL AND TREES. NO, OKAY, I WAS SAYING. IF IT WENT TO A STREET FUND, FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRANSPORTATION FEE, WE WOULD MAKE IT TO A STATE FUND AND ONLY BOND PAYMENT AT ALL. STREET REPAIR, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO A BOND PAYMENT, OR STREET REPAIRS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GOES STRICTLY TO A STREET, A PROTECTED FUND FOR STREETS, WHETHER IT'S BOND OR REPAIR. 
          YEAH, JUST BECAUSE, BUT I'M WORRIED THAT JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE ON, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROTECT IT. I MEAN, IS THERE AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING? YEAH, WE HAVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE. SHE'S SAYING, IT'S AN ORDINANCE. 
          YEAH, IT'S HER ORDINANCE. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE REQUIRED? A CITYWIDE ELECTION FOR THE ORDINANCE TO PASS? NO. OKAY, MR. COUNCIL. BUT THAT DOES GIVE FUTURE COUNCILS THE YES POWER TO REVOKE THE ORDINANCE ON THAT ROUTE, SAY THAT AGAIN GIVES FUTURE COUNCILS THE POWER TO REVOKE THE ORDINANCE. 
          TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING TO ME, I KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF ONE WAY THROUGH IT. I JUST WANT TO. 
          SORRY. THE CITY THAT YOU SPOKE WITH THAT IMPLEMENTED IT AS A MANDATORY, WHAT OTHER DONATIONS DO THEY HAVE ON THEIR WATER BILL? THE OTHER DONATIONS THEY HAVE, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY ALSO MADE THAT MANDATORY WITH THE AMBULANCE. 
          OKAY. AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT VOLUNTEER, AND THEY HAVE THE. THOSE ARE ALL MANDATORY IN THAT CITY? NO, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE KEY PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTARY. OH, OKAY. BUT THE AMBULANCE AND THE TRANSPORTATION WERE MANDATORY. 
          AND DID SHE, DID THEY GET PUSHBACK? LIKE, I HAVEN'T READ ANYTHING IN THE PAPER ABOUT IT. THEY'VE HAD IT. YEAH. THEY'VE HAD IT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. IS ANY OF OUR OTHER FEES MANDATORY, OR IS IT JUST OPTIONAL? WHICH ONE? ANY OF THE OTHER FEES ON THERE, ARE THEY MANDATORY ON OUR SIDE? NO, IT JUST HAS ADDITIONAL FEES IN THE ON OUR SIDE? ON OUR SIDE. 
          ON OUR KV THEY'RE NOT MANDATORY. OKAY, NONE OF THEM ARE MANDATORY? NO. 
          NONE OF THEM ARE MANDATORY. 
          HELLO, AMANDA. YEAH, IT SAYS VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTION. IT HAS AN ASTERISK ON YOUR BILL, AND IT SAYS VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTION. 
          ARE THEY VOLUNTARY? ARE THEIR NUMBERS SIMILAR TO OURS, WHAT THEY BRING IN? NO, WE'RE MUCH BETTER. YEAH, WE'RE MUCH BETTER. BUT THIS IS JUST AN OPTION. I LOVE IT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO. YEAH, BACK AT 3%. I WAS SENT TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND WE GET THIS ADDITIONAL FEE THAT MIGHT HELP. EVEN THOUGH THE PAYMENT IS $750, WHEN I SET IT OUT TO BE USED PER TAX DOLLAR, I COULD DO $500. INS IS ONLY FIGURED ON THE AMOUNT THAT YOU SAY IS GOING TO BE CALCULATED WITH THE PROPERTY TAX. YOU SAID PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, YOU MEANT PROPERTY TAX DECREASE. NO, BUT IF YOU ONLY PUT 500 INSTEAD OF 370, IT'S A DECREASE. 
          RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU, 
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SUSIE. AND BEFORE YOU GO, CAN YOU GO TO PUBLIC WORKS, PLEASE, ON YOUR BUDGET? 558? YES, MA'AM. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT TO THROW AT HIM, SO. UH-OH. UH-OH. 
          BUM-BUM-BUM. SO MY NOTES ARE USELESS. OH, ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE VOLUNTARY FEE FOR A FUTURE ORDINANCE. COULD YOU CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTS IT FROM BEING CHANGED IN THE FUTURE, LIKE IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO MANDATORY? OR, OR DISSOLVE IT SO THEY CAN USE THE MONEY ELSEWHERE. THEN IT HAS TO VOTER APPROVE. OR SOMETHING CRAZY. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I. 
          I'M IN FAVOR OF A VOLUNTARY FEE, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT A FUTURE COUNCIL TO TRY TO. THE FUND COULD ONLY BE DISSOLVED IF THE FUNDS WERE SPENT FOR THEIR PURPOSE, AND THEN THE FUNDS DISSOLVED, THE FUND OF ALL DISSOLVED WITH ZERO BALANCE, RIGHT. WE HAD THAT WHEN WE HAD THE SALES TAX THAT WENT STRAIGHT TO THE STREET FUND. AND WHEN THAT GOT CHANGED OVER, THE BALANCE THAT WAS IN THE STREET FUND WAS RESTRICTED. I COULD NOT USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. THAT IS WHY I'M USING IT NOW, OR USED IT, FOR SILVER SATURDAY. SCROLL DOWN SOME MORE, PLEASE. STOP RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. 
          SAFETY. YES. WE'RE TRYING TO BOIL THE OCEAN ALL AT ONE TIME, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO EQUIP EVERYBODY ALL AT ONE TIME? ESSENTIALLY, YES. 
          IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO $30,000 IN ONE YEAR. IF I HACKED IT, THAT GIVES ME $21,000 NOW OF TOTAL ADJUSTMENT. I'M CLOSER TO JASON'S SERVER. THAT WAS ONE OF THE LINES. THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, TOO, THAT YOU HAD THAT I WAS LOOKING AT. I MEAN, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION, HECTOR? I MEAN, OF ALL THE THINGS WE NEED IN THE CITY, DO YOU THINK YOU NEED $30,000 FOR SAFETY? SO IT'S HARD TO SAY YOU DON'T NEED SAFETY. I KNOW YOU NEED SAFETY, BUT THIS ISN'T, THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NOW, RIGHT? CORRECT, YES. SO WE'VE BOUGHT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE BARE MINIMUM APPAREL FOR FOLKS THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          SCHOOL YEAR, RIGHT? AND SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO, LIKE, GET SOME NEW EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEVER HAD. SOME NEW SAFETY THINGS ALSO REPLACE SOME OLD SAFETY THINGS AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO KEEP THE APPAREL ROLLING IN, RIGHT. THINGS GET OLD, IT NEED TO BE REPLACED, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I HAVE TO REALLY TALK TO JOHN ABOUT THAT. I KNOW HE CAME UP WITH ALL THESE NUMBERS FOR US. HE'S GOT A LITTLE SPREADSHEET, WHICH ACTUALLY DESIREE HAS. 
          BUT HE HAD ALL THAT LISTED OUT, JUST WHAT EACH PERSON TAKES, WHAT ALL WE WANTED. NOW, SOME OF THEM ARE SOME THINGS WE DON'T HAVE, NEVER HAVE. SO THEY'RE MORE OF, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL THEM WANTS. YES, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE WE COULD HAVE THIS. HE STILL HAS AN APPAREL LINE. YEAH, HE HAS AN APPAREL LINE. HE STILL HAS AN APPAREL LINE. YES. AND AGAIN, YOU ARE CORRECT. GOING ALL AFTER IT, WHERE WE CAN GO FROM ZERO TO 100 JUST IN ONE BUDGET YEAR. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, WE ASK EVERY DEPARTMENT TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING. I'M ASKING YOU. WE DON'T GO FROM NOTHING TO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONE TIME. WE USUALLY SLIDE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO OR THREE BUDGET CYCLES TO GET THERE. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS OSHA THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SKIRTING THE LINE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT. 
          SO THE THING WITH A CITY IN OSHA IS LIKE, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY WATCHED BY THEM OR OVERSEEN BY THEM, RIGHT? BUT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE HAVE AN INCIDENT. AND THEY COME IN AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, THAT'S WHEN THEY BRING IT ALL DOWN ON YOU. RIGHT. SO, YES, A BIG PORTION OF THAT IS JUST TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP WHERE WE SHOULD BE. 
          WHERE WE SHOULD BE. SO IT COULD BE A ONE-SHOT THIS TIME. YES. 
          WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF AUTUMN? 
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WITHIN THAT LINE ITEM. SO A LOT OF OUR, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH, LIKE TRAFFIC SAFETY THINGS. SO WE BOUGHT SOME OF THEM, BUT REALLY, LIKE EVERY CREW NEEDS TRAFFIC, LIKE THAT FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC SAFETY STUFF, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PIECES THAT WE ALL SHARE BETWEEN CREWS. RIGHT, THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. WE STILL NEED ONE MORE. SO THAT'S CONES, SIGNAGE, MAYBE SOME BARRELS, THINGS LIKE THAT. CORRECT, YES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE TRENCH SAFETY BOX WE NEED TO BUY. ONE MORE OF THOSE WE NEED TO BUY. AND THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL? THERE AS WELL. SO THE TRENCH SAFETY BOX, SO THAT YOU CAN ADHERE TO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE GOVERNED AROUND TRENCH DIGGING, EXCAVATION SAFETY. SO EVERYONE HAS ONE IF ALL CREWS ARE DISPATCHED AT ONE TIME, RIGHT? BUT ISN'T THAT IN THE WATER FUND? DON'T YOU HAVE A SAFETY LINE FOR THE WATER FUND, TOO? CORRECT, YES. RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE THAT TRENCH BOX IS, THE SEWER SAFETY. I'M NOT SURE. 
          DO YOU HAVE THAT SPREADSHEET I SENT YOU? I THINK IT'S CALLED BUDGET 2026. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IS THAT ALL? I DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER. I MEAN, WHEN YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER, I THINK IT WAS WHAT, 65,000, 75,000? 60,000. 60,000? YES. 
          YEAH. IT IS 2026 BUDGET. I SENT IT TO YOU TODAY. BUT ALSO, HE AND I HAD A EMAIL DISCUSSION ON SAFETY BECAUSE THIS IS JOHN'S STATE CARE, PUBLIC WORKS. HE ALSO HAD AN $1,800 PER PERSON SAFETY FOR PARKS. SO MY QUESTION TO JASON WAS, ISN'T JOHN DEFTO SAFETY FOR THE CITY? SO. DOES ITEM START ON 284? WELL, BUT I SEE THOSE AS BEING TWO SEPARATE THINGS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO HANDLE, TO ME, THEIR OWN NEEDS WITHIN THEIR BUDGET. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF FACILITY SAFETY MAYBE, OR THINGS LIKE THAT, ISN'T THAT KIND OF HIS DEPARTMENT? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET THAT IS FED OUT TO HECTOR FOR PUBLIC WORKS. 
          HECTOR SHOULD BE COVERING HIS NEEDS WITHIN HIS. NO, YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT. I THINK WE'RE STARTING SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER EXISTED. YES. RIGHT? AND SO JOHN, WHEN THE WHOLE FACILITIES THING GOT CHANGED AROUND, AND WE ABSORBED JOHN BECAUSE WE KNEW HE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE IN THAT, SO WE JUST TOOK IT AS GOOD. 
          OPPORTUNITY TO GET A SAFETY PROGRAM STARTED. BUT WE DO WANT TO GO CITYWIDE. BUT HE HAS A COST PER EMPLOYEE AS FAR AS LIKE PPE AND APPAREL. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WOULD HAVE TO ACQUIRE. WELL, DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING OUTSIDE. COURT'S NOT GOING TO NEED THIS FULL-BLOWN PPE APPAREL LIST. BUT LIKE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL NEED PORTIONS OF IT. THEY'RE OUT THERE, WORKING AT THE ROADWAYS. THE UTILITY BUILDING GUYS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC. 
          SAFETY THINGS OR VESTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AT LEAST THAT'S THE LINE I'M IN. SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING, LIKE YOUR CONSUMABLE STUFF THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE, SOME OF THE STUFF YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU HAVE IT IN A DIFFERENT LINE OUT OF YOUR BUDGET NOW. NOW THAT SECTION, YES. I'M NOT SURE ON THE AMOUNTS, BUT CORRECT, YES. LIKE A LOT OF THIS STUFF UP TOP, LIKE A LOT OF THESE NEW, A LOT OF THAT STUFF WAS NEW THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WE STARTED BUYING. WE'VE ALWAYS BOUGHT THEM SAFETY GLASSES, RIGHT? BUT LIKE OTHER THINGS, LIKE THE HARD HATS, NOT EVERYBODY HAD A HARD HAT BEFORE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A HANDFUL. WE'LL BE LIVING OUR LIVES. NOW WE HAVE THEM. WE'RE KEEPING THEM UP TO DATE. YOU KNOW, THEY EXPIRE AFTER SO MANY YEARS. WE KEEP A TRACK OF ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          JOHN TRACKS EVERYTHING. WE HAVE EVERYTHING LOCKED UP. HE GIVES THINGS OUT WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED. YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING EXPIRES. 
          REPLACE IT. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OFF-HAND SAFETY THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SCBA KITS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TREATMENT PLANTS WITH CHEMICALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NOW WE HAVE ALL THAT. THERE'S ALSO SOME NICE, SOME PRETTY COOL LITTLE SAFETY THINGS WE HAVE FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANTS. 
          THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY AN AUTOMATIC BLOW-UP VEST, RIGHT? IF THEY WERE TO FALL ON ONE OF THE BASES, POOF, BLOWS UP. YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE KIND OF THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. AND ALSO THERE'S LIKE, TRAININGS AND THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW. JOHN WANTS TO TRY TO ATTEND TO SOME KIND OF LIKE A TRAIN-THE-TRAINER TYPE OF THING WHERE YOU START TEACHING EVERYBODY CPR, EVEN HOW TO USE THESE AEDS. WE HAVE ALL THESE AEDS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM. NOBODY IN OUR CREW KNOWS HOW TO USE THEM. SO IF WE DO HAVE AN INCIDENT, NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT, TOO, TO ACQUIRE THAT TRAINING. AND WE'LL REALLY TRAIN JOHN SO THAT HE CAN TRAIN OTHERS. WELL, I 
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THINK, TOO, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE. OVERLAPPING FUNDING FOR THE SAME THINGS IN DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT HE NEEDS THESE THINGS. BUT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT BUDGETED LINES FOR THESE. OR LIKE THE OR LIKE, OR LIKE THE WATER FUND THAT HAS ITS BOX. 
          WE TOOK THE TOTAL OF WHAT EACH EMPLOYEE WAS, AND WE JUST DIVIDED IT UP BY WHAT FUND. IT WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF. SINCE ALL OUR EMPLOYEES ARE SPLIT BETWEEN GENERAL FUND AND THE WATER AND SEWER FUND, UTILITY FUND. SO EVEN CUTTING THAT IN HALF, I'VE GOT YOU TOTALED UP AT $65,000 IN SAFETY. ADDITIONAL SAFETY EXPENSES. CUT THIS IN HALF. EVEN IF I CUT THAT TO $15,000, YOU'VE GOT $65,000 TOTAL ACROSS THREE BUDGETS. 
          OKAY. ALRIGHT. WHICH I THINK IS A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT FOR THE FIRST YEAR. IT IS. IF I COULD TAKE SOMETHING FROM THAT WATER AND SEWER AND PULL IT OVER FOR THAT SERVER, I WOULD, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT. AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR EMPLOYEE THAT YOU'RE NEEDING. OKAY. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. SO YOU WERE GOING TO COME BACK TO US WITH NOTES ON YOUR CRUISE. CORRECT. SO SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS ASKED ABOUT SKILL-BASED PAY. TALK ABOUT THAT MORE, AND ALSO WHAT THAT WOULD COST US PER FUND, PER EMPLOYEE. AND I HAVE THAT AS WELL IN THE PACKAGE. IT SHOULD BE ALONG THERE WITH ALL MY ITEMS. IT'S ABOVE $284,000. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. 
          RIGHT THERE, THAT ONE. THIS IS ALL OUR EMPLOYEES LISTED OUT. 
          SO THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVEL THEY WOULD BE IN IF WE WERE TO INITIATE SKILL-BASED PAY FOR ALL THESE EMPLOYEES. 
          CERTAIN POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE. ARE ELIGIBLE, LIKE, I'M NOT ELIGIBLE FOR IT. 
          BUT IF WE WERE TO INITIATE IT AND THEY WERE TO SAY A CLOCK. BECAUSE THEY GOT THE EXPERIENCE, THE AMOUNT OF YEARS THEY'VE BEEN HERE, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO, DOESN'T SAY THEY'RE GOING TO REACH LEVEL FOUR, RIGHT? SOMEBODY MAY NOT REACH LEVEL FOUR. THEY STILL HAVE TESTS TO PASS, THEY HAVE SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVE TO US. SO SKILL-BASED PAY IS EACH LEVEL. THEY HAVE TO SAY, TRAIN 40 HOURS ON A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, OR THEY MAY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY HAVE THE COMPETENCY TO REPAIR A MAINLINE WATER LEAK, A SEWER LEAK. THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN OPERATE A LIFT STATION, THEY CAN MAKE A STREET REPAIR, THEY HAVE TO PUT SO MANY HOURS ON TRAINING, THEY HAVE TO TAKE SO MANY TCEQ CLASSES. 
          ONCE THEY GET UP TO CERTAIN LEVELS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN CREDENTIAL OF LICENSE, THEY HAVE TO PASS THEIR CDL, UP THERE. 
          HAVE THAT CDL TO EVEN GET TO CLASS TWO, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR CDL. BECAUSE TO ACQUIRE A CDL, YOU DON'T NEED EXPERIENCE. BUT TO GET TCEQ LICENSING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THAT FIELD. OR THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T ALLOW YOU TO TEST FOR THE LICENSE. SO THOSE COME IN A LITTLE BIT LATER. IT ALSO CONSOLIDATES SOME OF OUR FOREMAN POSITIONS. 
          BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO, LIKE LEVEL FIVE, LEVEL SIX TECHNICIAN, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO CAN DO EVERY SINGLE JOB IN THE CITY. I CAN HAVE THEM RUN THE WASTEWATER PLANT IF I NEEDED THEM, THEY CAN RUN THE WATER PLANTS, THEY CAN REPAIR STREET, THEY CAN FIX WATER. IT'S JUST AN EVER, EVER STEPS OF THEM JUST LEARNING ALL THE SKILLS THAT ANYONE WOULD WANT TO BE. 
          AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY GET TO SAY LIKE, LEVEL EIGHT IS THE TOP, I MEAN, THEY KNOW HOW TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE CITY. I CAN SEND THEM TO DO ANYTHING AND WE HAVE SEVERAL LEVEL EIGHTS. I MEAN, THEY'RE RUNNING SAFETY MEETINGS, THEY'RE RUNNING REPORTS, THEY'RE DOING ALL THE SUPERVISORIES, THEY'RE ENTERING WORK ORDERS, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TEN OF THEM, SAY, AND THEN A BUNCH OF LEVEL 60S, FOURS, ETC. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TO PROVE YOU CAN GET ANYTHING DONE. HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS, THOUGH? HOW ARE YOU MONETIZING THE LEVELS? SO, IF YOU SCROLL UP THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION, IS IT ATTACHED TO IT? YEAH. 
          SO, IF YOU KEEP SCROLLING UP, YOU'LL SEE A BIG CREATE ON THAT. THESE ARE JUST THE LEVELS AND WHAT IT ENTAILS IN EACH ONE. ROLL UP. YEAH, YOU LIKE IT. BLACK AND PURPLE DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. CAN YOU TURN OFF ANY OF THE LIGHTS? SO RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE ACTUAL ACROSS OF WHAT, THIS IS STARTING PAY, RIGHT ENTRY LEVEL, AND WHAT WE DID IS WE DID, I JUST BASED IT ON 8% EACH LEVEL, EVERY TIME THEY LEARN A SET OF SKILLS, HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE, 8%. WELL, IT'S JUST A NUMBER. THERE'S A LOT OF JUST NUMBERS ON THE APP. BUT IT'S AN 8% INCREASE PER LEVEL OF EVERY SINGLE SKILL THAT THEY LEARN. I HAVE EVERYTHING LISTED OUT IN THAT PRESENTATION, AS FAR AS WHAT EACH LEVEL 
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ENTAILS, WHAT SKILL THEY WOULD NEED TO LEARN. AND THEN SO I, BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, THAT'S WHAT LEVEL THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY BE. IT DOESN'T SAY THEY'D GET THERE THAT YEAR BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE A YEAR TO ACQUIRE SOME SKILLS THEY HAVE NOT YET WORKED ON. SO IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT ALL OF THEM HIT THE LEVELS THAT I HAVE LISTED OUT. IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO HIT THAT LEVEL. HAVE YOU COMPARED ANY CITIES THAT DO THIS AND WHAT THEIR PERCENTAGES ARE? I HAVE NOT. I KNOW COLLEEN WAS GONNA HELP ME TRY TO FIND SOME OTHER CITIES THAT DID IT. SHE WAS GONNA REACH OUT TO HER, I GUESS THEY HAVE A STATEWIDE HR GROUP, AND SHE WAS GONNA REACH OUT TO THOSE. AND I JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY INFORMATION BACK FROM HER YET. THERE'S NO NEIGHBORING CITIES THAT CURRENTLY DO THIS. THAT INFORMATION WAS JUST TURNED OVER TO COLLEEN AND SUSIE. 
          AND SUSIE CAN GIVE YOU A NUMBER AS TO WHAT THIS WOULD END UP COSTING. I THOUGHT THE NUMBER WAS ON THERE, WASN'T IT, LIKE, $140,000? YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAW AT THE BOTTOM. AND THEN HIS PRESENTATION SHOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK WE CAN TWEAK SOME OF THOSE THINGS. OF COURSE. 
          YOU KNOW THAT, GO THROUGH THERE AND DO THE COMPARISON WITH SOME OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW. BECAUSE WHAT DID HE BASE IT ON, AND AND WHAT CAN WE BASE IT ON? SO, AND TO GET THAT NUMBER MORE BETTER TWEAKED AND IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. I THINK 8% IS WAY TOO AGGRESSIVE. 
          WE WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. WELL, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A BOLD STATEMENT, TOO, BASED ON OUR ASSESSMENT OF NOTHING. CORRECT. BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU SAY SOME THINGS THAT THEY ACHIEVE MAY BE WORSE? WORTH MORE THAN 8% IF THE MARKET DICTATES IT. AND SOME MAY NOT. THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF WE HAVE ANY AREA CITIES THAT DO IT, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE EVEN HAVE ANY. NOT IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA. I'M WITH TANNER. I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THE STUDY COMPARISON. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME AREAS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY OVERVALUED AND SOME AREAS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY UNDERVALUED. I'M ALSO DO KNOW THAT ANYTIME WE GO, MY OPINION IS WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S KIND OF PROBABLY BE A STAIR-STEP PROGRAM. IT MAY NOT BE STARTING OFF AS THE FULL MEASURE. THE INTENT'S THERE. YOU'RE SHOWING SOME COMMITMENT BY ADDING, BUT THEN IT'S ALMOST BE A STAIR-STEP PROGRAM FOR THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE FOLDING IN. 
          FUNDS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE PULLING MONEY FROM ELSEWHERE OR WHEREVER WE'RE GOING TO PULL IT, FROM TAXPAYER DOLLARS, ESSENTIALLY. SO YOU'VE GOT TO. 
          BUT I WOULD SUSPECT PART OF THE REASON IS IT BUILDS IN PEOPLE RETENTION. WELL, AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF. 
          IN CONTINUING WITH OUR GOAL OF PROMOTING WITHIN AND HIRING AT THE BOTTOM AND MOVING PEOPLE UP, THE ONE THING THAT I'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN IN. 
          SOME OF US WHO WORK IN THE CORPORATE WORLD HAVE SEEN WHAT THE COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH NOT RETAINING AN EMPLOYEE AND HAVING TO TRAIN SOMEBODY. I MEAN, YOU ARE COSTING YOURSELF AN ALMOST IMMEASURABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY BY HIRING A NEW EMPLOYEE FOR A JOB RATHER THAN KEEPING AND RETAINING ONE. 
          BASED OFF OF, IN HECTOR'S OPINION, IN SOME CASES, AN 8% INCREASE ON AN EMPLOYEE THAT IS INTERESTED IN LEVELING UP IN HIS CURRENT POSITION OR IN A NEW ROLE. YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE FAR OFF, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT AREAS ARE ACTUAL AND WHAT ARE NOT. I'M SURE YOU'RE CHOOSING THIS AS, LIKE MY GUT FEELING TELLS ME, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO RETAIN SOMEBODY. 
          BASICALLY, YES. MY QUESTION, TOO, IS, WILL ENTRY MAINTENANCE TECH 123. WILL THEY BE REQUIRED TO MOVE UP THE LADDER, OR CAN THEY JUST RAISE THEIR HAND AND GO? NO COOL. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR VISION? I WOULD SAY NO. I WOULD SAY I WOULD LOVE TO. 
          HAVE LIKE A, MAYBE LIKE A FLOOR, RIGHT? YOU KNOW? MAYBE JUST TO SAY, HEY, I EXPECT EVERYONE TO AT LEAST GET TO NUMBER FOUR, BECAUSE WHAT, LIKE A NUMBER? I BELIEVE IT'S LEVEL FOUR WHERE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CLASSY WASTEWATER WATER LICENSE, RIGHT? AND WHAT THAT ALLOTS IS THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OPERATE THE PLANTS, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR OWN, OR, YOU KNOW, WITH NO SUPERVISION. SO THAT WOULD AT LEAST BUY US THAT. I'D BE CAREFUL THAT IF I WERE YOU, I THINK SO TOO, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS CONTENT, AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT 
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JUST, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS, AND THEY'RE CONTENT. 
          FOR WHATEVER REASONS, I WOULDN'T GO PUSHING THEM OUT THE DOOR OR UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT THEM IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION. 
          SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIKE AREAS THAT MAYBE OTHERS DON'T LIKE, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO GET IN THAT MUD WHEN OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T. YOU KNOW, METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, YES, AND AND THEY'RE CONTENT WITH THAT, SO THAT MAKES THEM HAPPY. I'VE JUST SEEN IT IN OTHER AREAS WHERE I FEEL LIKE, SOMETIMES IT TAKES ALL TYPES, AND THAT'S ALL, I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          YES, I UNDERSTAND, AND I AGREE. I JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE LICENSING SITUATION. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO CAN DO ANYTHING ACROSS THE CITY, THEN I WOULD JUST LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW. MAYBE PICK ONE OR TWO, BUT IF THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE IN OTHER AREAS OR THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEN I WOULD. YES. AND THEY GET THE JOB DONE IN THE AREAS YOU DO NEED. 
          YES. SOMETHING WE ALSO HAVE DONE IS ON TRAINING. WHENEVER SOMEBODY GOES AND WE THE CITY SPENDS MONEY ON TRAINING. THAT THEY'RE SIGNING AN AGREEMENT THAT IF THEY LEAVE WITHIN A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THEY THEY'RE GONNA PAY IT BACK TO THE CITY. BECAUSE ALL THESE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING TO HERE LICENSES AND I'M TALKING TO WHOLE CITY. YES, SIR. I'M GETTING SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN, OKAY, CITY OF ANGLETON PAID FOR ME TO GET A CDL, NOW I'M GOING TO GO WORK FOR THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON FOR MORE MONEY. 
          OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD, BUT YOU'RE GONNA PAY US BACK. 
          YEAH. I LIKE THAT IDEA. YES, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT RECENTLY AS WELL, LIKE WITH OUR CURRENT, AS I'D SPOKEN, LAST BUDGET SESSION I WAS HERE FOR. WE DID IT WITH THE CDLS WE GOT. BECAUSE WE WANT TO INVEST ANGLETON TAXPAYER MONEY ON ANGLETON PEOPLE. EXACTLY. AND WE WANT THEM TO GET THEIR MONEY'S WORTH. 
          RIGHT. AND FOR THAT FOLKS TO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND PROFIT FROM WHAT THEY GOT FROM THE CITY. AND IS THAT POLICY GOING TO BE CITYWIDE? I SEE A LOT OF MONEY IN TRAINING. IT IS. 
          IT IS. YES, MATTER OF FACT, I TALKED TO A COLLEAGUE TODAY ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, I WILL CONFESS, BECAUSE THE PD, WE LOST SOMEBODY THIS WEEK THAT WE INVESTED A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY IN. THEY SAID, WELL, I'LL NEVER LEAVE, I'LL NEVER LEAVE. AND I'M LIKE, WHERE IS THIS? AND SHE SAID, WELL, IT'S ALREADY THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND IT'S CITYWIDE, YES. IT'S CITYWIDE. IT'S CALLED, I FORGET WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT IT IS. AND IT PRORATES. SO IF YOU STAY A YEAR, TWO YEARS, IT'LL PRORATE BY THE MONTH. RIGHT, THAT'S FAIR. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TWO YEARS AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY BACK THE WHOLE THING, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRORATED. 
          SO IF WE INVEST IN YOU, WE WANT YOU TO INVEST IN US. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I FEEL KIND OF BEAT UP, BUT I'M NOT AGAINST PAVE DOING THIS. 
          BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REVISE HOW WE LOOK AT IT. 
          FUNDING IS NOT UNLIMITED. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, AND ONCE WE DO IT WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT, IT'S NOT JUST YOUR DEPARTMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE ROLL OUT FOR YOU IS EQUIVALENT TO THE OTHERS AS WELL. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO RETAIN ALL THE EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE CITY. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO THE YOUR IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE BASED ON THE CITY'S NEEDS, TOO. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH HECTOR'S ARBITRARY FOURTH FLOOR DEAL WAS BECAUSE WE MAY NOT NEED THOSE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE EMPLOYEES THAT YOU MIGHT SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY FOR THIS POSITION. OR TO MAYBE IMPROVE YOUR POSITION WITHIN THE CITY INDIVIDUALLY. 
          THIS IS WHAT THAT ENTAILS, AND THIS IS WHAT THE REWARD FOR THAT IS. WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE THAT WANT TO GROW WITH US. I MEAN, ULTIMATELY. YEP, THAT'S ONE PIECE WE'RE MISSING RIGHT NOW IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AND WE KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT YOU HAVING A CREW THAT'S GOT LONGEVITY HELPS US IMMENSELY. WHEN THERE'S A WATER LEAK AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE WATER LINES ARE. 
          EXACTLY. BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL BRAND NEW. THEREIN LIES THE ISSUE, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE. THAT'S JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS. I MEAN, IT COSTS US A LOT OF MONEY WHEN WE HAVE BRAND-NEW PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S AT AND HOW TO DO THINGS. I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN BY SOME OF THE BIG ISSUES WE'VE HAD AT NIGHT, AND YOU KIND 
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OF GET A GLIMPSE OF HOW HECTIC IT IS FOR US WHEN WE DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY OPERATING ON THE SAME LEVEL. 
          WITHOUT THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT. 
          IT'S SCARY. WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? SAFETY FIRST. THOSE ARE THE NOTES I HAD FROM LAST TIME. I WAS COMING BACK, TALKING ABOUT SKILL-BASED PAY AND WANTING THE ACTUAL COST ON SAFETY STUFF. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER EMPLOYEE YOU'RE AFTER? OH, YES, WE DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH ON THAT. 
          SO WE WANTED, WE WERE ASKING FOR, INITIALLY, WE WERE ASKING FOR A PUBLIC WORKS, STREETS AND DRAINAGE TO SEE IF IT WAS AVAILABLE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF SUPERVISOR IN THAT. 
          SUPERVISORS GO ALL OVER STREETS AND DRAINAGE SPECIFICALLY. WE HAVE SUPERVISORS FOR ALL THESE OTHER LOCAL SECTORS THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE GOT A WASTEWATER FOREMAN, WE GOT CHIEF WATER OPERATOR, CHIEF WASTEWATER OPERATOR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WATER FOREMAN, WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT ONES, EXCEPT NOT THERE. AND SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS A. THIS POSITION WE HAD, I GOT WITH COLLEEN ABOUT THE SALARY PLUS BENEFITS AND ALL. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE $93,000 TOTAL FOR THAT FOR A STREETS FOREMAN. UM, AND SO IF WE WERE TO ADD IT, ADD A NEW EMPLOYEE, RIGHT, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE COST OF IT AS A NEW EMPLOYEE. I HAVE A GENTLEMAN WHO ALREADY BASICALLY DOES THE JOB, HE DOES RUN, RUN THAT ENTIRE CREW, BUT HIS TITLE IS JUST A MAINTENANCE DECK. BUT HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO REWARD AGAIN. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU COULD ALSO JUST PROMOTE HIM INTO THAT. HE'S WILLING TO BE A WORKING FOREMAN. TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT NONE OF OUR FOREMANS SITTING IN A TRUCK OR SITTING IN AN OFFICE. NONE OF THEM HAVE OFFICES. THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE WITH THEIR CREWS WORKING. SO THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD BE, TOO. 
          SO, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A PROMOTIONAL TYPE OF THING, OR JUST TO TAKE A MAINTENANCE TECH POSITION TO CREATE IT. 
          BUT IN ALL REALITY, WE NEED ANOTHER HEAD. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH DRAINAGE AND POTHOLES AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. SO WE JUST NEED MORE HANDS. WE PHYSICALLY NEED MORE HANDS. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE LIES ANOTHER PROBLEM. 
          YOU KNOW, WE BRING THIS POSITION UP, RIGHT, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T GIVE US ANY MORE HANDS. 
          SUSIE, WHAT DID YOU PUT IN? I PUT IN FOR A TECH. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT, I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MOVING ANYBODY UP. I WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT THAT. WHAT'S YOUR TECH? HOW MUCH IS THE TECH? $58,000, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          $68,000 IS WHAT I HAVE ON THIS, WITH BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING FOR A TECH. 
          BUT WOULD THIS PERSON COME IN AT THE SAME LEVEL AS HIM? YEAH, I MEAN, HE'S GETTING PAID THE SAME AMOUNT. HE'S GETTING PAID AS A MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN. THE CURRENT GUY I HAVE RUNNING, THE HELPING US OUT, RUNNING THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO HE'S CURRENTLY A MAINTENANCE TECH, TOO. AND SO, YEAH, HE'D THIS NEW PERSON WOULD HAVE BEEN MAKING THE SAME AS HIM, YES. 
          HE'S SAYING, FULL BENEFITS, EVERYTHING, 68. THAT'S WHAT SHE GOT. THAT'S THE INFORMATION YOU GOT FROM. I HAVE 57 FOR THAT NEW TECH. 
          FOR THE NEW TECH? IT WAS A ONE TECH. I HAVE 68 ON THE BUDGET ONE YOU GAVE ME LAST TIME. I'M STILL USING THE SAME BOOK THAT YOU GAVE ME FOR THE FIRST SESSION. IT WAS LL1010. MISS DAY, YOU GIVE UP ON US? I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 4, AND I'M TIRED. I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU. AND WE HAVE OUR BUDGET TUESDAY. AND I JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT HAMILTON'S DOING. SO I THINK YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BE ABLE TO SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M JUST, OH, SUSIE, GREAT JOB. 
          I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED. I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD LUCK. GO GET THEM. I'LL CARRY ON. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR NUMBERS, SUSIE? FROM $17,000 FOR $17 AN HOUR, UNLESS IT'S CHANGED. IT WAS $17.18 WAS WHAT THE LAST STARTER PAY WE HAD FOR A MAINTENANCE DAY. 
          WITH BENEFITS? YEAH, WITH BENEFITS, YES, SIR. 
          YEAH, ALRIGHT. WELL, OVER BUDGET ON THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE $57,000 FOR THE EMPLOYEE FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND $37,590 FOR THE EMPLOYEE FOR PARKS. SO I NEEDED $94,590. RIGHT NOW, 
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IT'S A CREW OF THREE. 
          IN THE MOVE? OH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT EMPLOYEES THAT GET PAID OUT OF THIS GENERAL FUND. FULLY, ANYWAY. I GET PARTIALLY PAID. A COUPLE OF US GET PARTIALLY PAID. JUST BECAUSE WE TOUCH EVERYTHING. 
          AND ONE OF THEM IS OUR DEDICATED SERVICE. TAKING CARE OF ALL THE VEHICLES, MAKING SURE ALL THE EQUIPMENT'S DOING, REPAIRING THINGS, ALL THAT. SO HE'S KIND OF OFF OF THAT CREW, IN A SENSE. SO WE HAVE SEVEN OTHERS AND IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM THREE IS A BARE MINIMUM, BUT TYPICALLY IT TAKES FOUR TO DO DITCH CUTTING. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SHOOT GRADE AS WE GO. WE HAVE TO SHOOT GRADE BEFORE, DO THE CALCULATIONS, COME BACK. SOMETIMES WE NEED FIVE, JUST DEPENDING IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE, FAIRGROUNDS HAVE BEEN PRETTY EASY FOR US. 
          IT'S A DEAD END ROAD. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TRAFFIC TO CALCULATE FOR. BUT ON OTHER ROADS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE FLAGGERS ON BOTH SIDES, GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH. AND WE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, SIMULTANEOUSLY, WE GOT TO HAVE TIME TO REPAIR SIGNS, REPLACE SIGNS, INSTALL SIGNS, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF ALL THE TREE TRIMMING. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF EASEMENT, LIKE RIGHT-OF-WAY MOWING THAT WE END UP HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF. AND ALSO POTHOLE PATCHING, SO STREET REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TRY TO BALANCE ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT. WE DID GET OUR NEW DUMP TRUCK IN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IT DRIVING BY ANYWHERE, BUT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT TO WORK ALREADY. IT WORKS GREAT, SO THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT. NEED A FACEBOOK PICTURE. IS THE GRAY DOLL WORKING? GOTCHA. THE GRAY ONE, WE JUST GOT BACK IN SERVICE. 
          THE BRAND NEW ONE, OH YEAH, IT'S BEEN WORKING JUST FINE. 
          IT'S ALMOST DUE FOR FIRST SERVICE PRETTY SOON. 
          AND THE GRAY ONE WAS DOWN AND HAD A. BATTERIES KEPT DYING, I WAS JUST SETTING THE IGNITION SWITCH, BUT TRAVIS WAS ABLE TO ORDER ONE AND CHANGE IT OUT SO THAT ONE'S BACK UP AND RUNNING. BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DRY, NOW'S THE TIME. YEAH, SO WE'VE BEEN GETTING AFTER IT WITH THE NEW ONE. WE JUST COMPLETED FAIRGROUNDS, WE TOOK CARE OF GIFFORD, THAT AREA, GIFFORD LANE OVER THERE. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE STRACO BEACHWOOD AREA. I WILL SAY THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. IT'S A PRETTY BIG AREA, BUT WE'LL GET IT DONE. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT FOR THE NEXT PROBABLY THREE WEEKS, I'D SAY, AT LEAST. 
          OVER THERE, ON IN THAT BEACH, BEACH IS IT? BEACH NUT. BEACH NUT, YES. I KEEP SAYING BEACH NUT. 
          NOT US. NOT US. YEAH, SO WE'LL BE IN THAT AREA. IS THE PATCHER WORKING? PATCHER IS WORKING, YES. THE ONLY ISSUE WE HAD WITH IT WAS WITH THE SPRAYER, BUT WE GOT THAT FIXED. IT WAS JUST LIKE A MANUFACTURER DEFECTS. I WILL SAY WITH THE PATCHER, THOUGH, IT'S, SO WE TRY TO PATCH TWO DAYS A WEEK, YOU KNOW, WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DO DITCH CUTTING, YOU KNOW, THREE DAYS A WEEK, TRYING TO PATCH AT LEAST TWO DAYS A WEEK. AND WITH THAT, WITH MATERIAL COSTS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, BUDGET SHORTFALL AND US NOT INCREASING THE, YOU KNOW, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT, THAT'S WHERE WE PURCHASE ALL THAT MATERIAL OUT OF. AND SO AT THE POINT WE'RE AT NOW, OR I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID OPT TO INCREASE IT. LET ME SEE IF IT IS ON HERE. IT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED ON MY BOOK, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGED, BUT I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE INCREASING IT ANY. SO IF IT'S STILL AT $50,000, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT OF OUR BUDGET IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING REAL SELECTIVE OF WHAT WE GO AND REPAIR. JUST DUE TO NOT HAVING MUCH LEFT TO PURCHASE MATERIALS. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NEW TECH POSITION. 
          WOULD THAT PAY BE FOR SOMEONE LIKE BRAND NEW, NO EXPERIENCE? CORRECT. AND WHAT DOES THAT PAY COMPARED TO PEOPLE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON BOARD THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A YEAR OR TWO YEARS? SO I HAVE SOME GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PERCENTAGE, WE'VE DONE PERCENTAGE INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD. I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THREE YEARS, RIGHT? THREE BUDGET CYCLES, I BELIEVE. SO I HAVE SOME GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THREE YEARS AND THEY'RE MAKING. I THINK IT WAS 1853 OR 1863. AN HOUR. AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR THOSE THREE PERCENTAGES INCREASES, AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT 
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THEY'VE GOT. SO A NEW PERSON COMING IN 17, 18 AN HOUR, THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR THREE YEARS, MAKING 1863 AN HOUR. WE DIDN'T IMPROVE THAT. 
          REMEMBER, REMEMBER YOU CALLED ME AND SAID SOME PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT WE WERE ADVERTISING FOR A JOB? AND SOMEBODY'S BRAND NEW IS COMING IN AND MAKING MORE THAN SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE. YEAH, THANKS, DAN. SO WE FIXED THAT. YEAH, IT'S BEEN IMPROVED. YEAH, THERE WERE SOME GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS BECAUSE ALSO THEY DIDN'T, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE HERE FULL-TIME IN YOUR POSITION FOR A YEAR TO GET AN INCREASE. SO SOME OF THEM MISSED THOSE PERCENTAGES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET THAT CRITERIA. AND SO THEY WERE ALSO COMING IN BELOW, OR SOMEONE WAS COMING IN ABOVE THEM. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T FIX THOSE. NO ONE'S COMING IN ABOVE SOMEBODY ANYMORE. WE'VE ALSO FIXED THE INCREASES IF YOU HIT YOUR YEAR. 
          DURING THE YEAR, THE FISCAL YEAR, THEN THEY WILL START GETTING PAID THAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A YEAR, BEFORE IT WAS, YOU DIDN'T GET ANYTHING. YOU HAD TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. 
          NOW, IF YOU HIT YOUR YEAR DURING THE FISCAL YEAR, THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL START GETTING PAID THAT EXTRA MONEY. AS YOU SHOULD BE. CORRECT. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY WEIRD. CORRECT. WE FIXED THAT. I STILL GOT TO THINK ABOUT THESE POSITIONS. WELL, AT LEAST THAT ONE, FOR SURE. 
          THE TECH OR THE FORMULA? WHICH ONE ARE YOU ASKING? THE TECH. 
          THE FOREMAN, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          IF IT'S A WORKING FOREMAN, LIKE YOU SAID, HE IS. OH, HE IS. HE'S GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE. YOU JUST GOT TO PLUG THAT NUMBER IN, RIGHT? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT EITHER. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, TOO. THAT WIPES OUT THAT $21,000 IMMEDIATELY. SUSIE CAN TELL YOU HOW SHE'S GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT, RIGHT, SUSIE? AND WHAT WOULD PAY FOR WHAT? OKAY, THE $21,000 THAT YOU HAVE TO THE PLUS IS WITH YOUR DIMINUTIVENESS RATE. 
          ALL DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED. RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR HECTOR? AS SOON AS HE STARTS. NOTHING ELSE FROM ME. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, HECTOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO. I KNOW HOW TO PAY FOR THAT, THOSE POSITIONS. I KNOW HOW TO PAY FOR THOSE POSITIONS. 
          GET THAT MONEY FROM THAT SERVICE. YES. WHAT'S THAT, JOHN? GET THE MONEY FROM THAT TURS. THAT $120,000. 
          LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO THE TURNIP. YOU CAN GET IT 
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QUICKER. T-MAIL. T-MAIL. 
          THAT'D BE THE THING. AND THEN IT'S HANDLED, AND WE KNOW IT'S HANDLED. 
          EXACTLY. YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE IT FROM JUDITH. WELL, THEY SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING. YEAH. 
          THAT'S AN ARGUMENT WE CAN MAKE, TOO, THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOMETHING. I'LL DO WHAT Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO, BUT I THINK WE GO STRAIGHT TO THE ATTORNEY. GET THAT MONEY. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, BUT I'VE ARGUED WITH Y'ALL ENOUGH. I CAN'T WIN WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT. I'M DOING MY BEST OVER HERE. SLAP DOWN. 
          SUSIE, WE HAVE A SECOND. CAN YOU GO TO DEPARTMENT 506, PLEASE? WHAT WAS THAT 66,000 AGAIN FOR, THAT CONTRACT LABOR? THE CONTRACT LABOR IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING YOUR CLEANING SERVICES. THAT'S RIGHT. AND ALSO ADDING THE NEW BUILDING. THE NEW STREET GUY CAN DO SOME CLEANING. I'M JOKING. HALF AND HALF. WHAT WAS THAT? NEW STREET GUIDE DO CLEANING. NO. STREET SPOT A, CLEAN THE TOILETS AND PAVEMENT BEFORE YOU LEAVE. YEP. WANT ME TO TURN EVERYBODY TO DO ANYTHING? YES. I'M WITH YOU. A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET TO THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING IN ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, WHEN YOU HAVE THE LOCKERS, YOU HAVE THE BATHROOMS, IT'S A HUGE BUILDING, TOO. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. SAY IT. YOU GOT A GOOD IDEA, BARBARA. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. MAYBE ADD A NEW, WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTARY OR REQUIRED CONTRIBUTIONS, MAYBE ADD A NEW VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTION FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          TO BE DETERMINED ON WHAT THEY COULD SPEND IT FOR SPECIFICALLY. WATER BILL'S GOING TO BE A CHECKLIST, ABOUT THREE PAGES LONG, WITH CONTRIBUTIONS. I HAVE MINE, THAT'S NOT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, TOO, BUDDY. THAT'S HOW LONG IT LASTS. I'M ALWAYS IN SUPPORT OF IF PEOPLE WANT TO VOLUNTARILY GIVE THAT MONEY FOR THIS TO HELP. AND YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE. BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING IT MANDATORY ON ANYBODY. NO, VOLUNTEERING. 
          YOU DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT IN THEIR HEARTS THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE TO THE AREA IN PARTICULAR. AND IT KIND OF GOES WITH WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO GIVE IF THEY COULD CONTROL THE AREA WHERE MONEY IS SPENT. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THEIR MONEY TO BE SPENT ON AREAS THAT THEY DON'T THINK IS VALUABLE OR IMPORTANT TO THEM. OR TO DONATE FOR AND PAY TAXES, OR WHATEVER IT IS. IF THEY GIVE THEM CONTROL, THEY MAY BE WILLING TO. I CAN SEE THE DONATIONS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES ON THE WATER BILL AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD ONE. 
          WHAT'S ONE OF THE HARDEST CASES FOR YOU TO TRY? OH, YEAH, THEY HAVE A K9 ADA. SHE EVEN HAS IT ON THE LICENSE PLATE. 
          DON'T MESS WITH THE DOG ON THE FRONT PAGE. SUSIE, DID WE TALK ABOUT DEPARTMENT 559? THAT'S THE CATCH-ALL. I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THERE'S TWO $15,000 LINES THERE. THE INTERNET? YEAH. THOSE ARE NEW ONES THAT WE HAD TO ENTER. WHERE WAS THE INTERNET SERVICE FOR THE CITY BEFORE? THAT'S WHEN WE MOVED FROM 18TH STREET. NO, THAT'S THE PHONES. 
          THE EXTRA PHONES? THAT'S THE PHONES. WE GOT THE PHONES. WE HAVE TO ADD MORE MONEY FOR THE INTERNET. THE DIFFERENCE IS IT'S A REQUEST BY JASON. THAT'S THE PHONES. 
          WHAT'S THE AED? THOSE ARE THOSE, WE NEED THE BATTERY, THAT'S FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ON THOSE. HAVE TO BE INSPECTED. FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN GIVE HECTOR AND THEM DIRECTIONS. IT TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU OPEN THE THING. 
          AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF IT, BUT STILL, IF SOMEBODY COULD COME 
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BY AND MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, AND GO, YES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE JUST FINE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. THOSE BATTERIES, THEY KNOW. THEY'RE PADS FOR THOSE THINGS. THEY EXPIRE. 
          I MEAN, BUT THAT COMPANY KNOWS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. IT'S JUST LIKE TASER BATTERIES. WE OPEN THE TASER BATTERY, YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN IT? TWO DEEP CELL, DURA CELL BATTERIES THAT ARE WRAPPED IN PLASTIC. THAT YOU CAN GET AT WALMART FOR $5.99, BUT THEY CHARGE YOU $87. BECAUSE THEY WRAP THEM IN PLASTIC FOR YOU. OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS. I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT MONEY. OKAY. 
          I'M OUT OF IDEAS, GUYS. PART OF ME THINKS, AT LEAST WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT JASON'S OTHER POSITION, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO GET THAT TOURIST MONEY. AND IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE CAN DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND GO GET ALL, YOU KNOW, GO GET THE OTHER PERSON AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          BREATHE A LITTLE. SHE HAS ALL THE STUFF CALCULATED ALREADY. 
          WE'VE FUNDED A LOT OF ADDITIONAL STUFF THIS YEAR. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE. WE'VE GOT, I STILL THINK, JUST LIKE EVERY YEAR, WE BUDGET AND WE DON'T SPEND ALL OF IT, WHICH IS GOOD. SO I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY OVER BUDGETED IN THIS CASE. 
          MAYBE 2 TO 3 PERCENT, HONESTLY. 
          I THINK THAT WE'LL BE FINE IN THE END. THERE WERE SO MANY ANCILLARY COST INCREASES THAT WE'VE BEEN HIT WITH. THAT ARE THINGS THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER, TOO. I MEAN, MAJOR ITEMS. WE'VE INVESTED IN THE EMPLOYEES. WE'VE INVESTED IN EQUIPMENT. WE'VE INVESTED IN PROJECTS. I MEAN, IT'S A LOT. IT'S CRAZY. THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT ALL GET DONE? ALL THESE PROJECTS AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET DONE. 
          YOU'RE GETTING THAT, YES, SIR. 
          NO, I MEAN, IN THIS NEXT BUDGET. NO, THE NEXT BUDGET. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREET OVERLAYS, AMOUNT DOUBLING, SIDEWALKS, SOLAR LIGHTS, EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, EQUIPMENT. I MEAN, THERE'S. 
          WHAT A FEW THINGS. DID WE EVER GO BACK TO THE MOWER THING? DID WE EVER CIRCLE BACK TO THE MOWERS? WE GOT TWO LAST YEAR. JASON ISN'T HERE. IT WASN'T JASON. IT WAS HECTOR. 
          FOR ME, ABOUT THE MOWERS WE NEEDED? YES. THAT WAS THE THING. JASON NEEDED ONE, TOO, THOUGH. YES, JASON NEEDED ONE, TOO. WE GAVE STUART TWO. I KNOW THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT AND I JUST SAID, REALLY, AN ENTIRETY OF ONE IS JUST LIKE, OUT ON US. BECAUSE I REMEMBER YOU HAD ASKED, LIKE, WHY DO WE NEED MOWERS FOR, AND I EXPLAINED TO YOU HOW WE HAVE TO MOW LIFT STATIONS. THERE'S LIKE EVERY WATER PLANTS, THE WASTEWATER PLANT HAS TO BE MOWED AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING ACTUAL RIDEWAYS. WE ACTUALLY ARE OUT THERE MOWING THESE MINSON RIDEWAYS. PEOPLE CALL US. THIS ALLEY, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, THE CITY USED TO MOW IT. 
          WHATEVER WE LOOK, IT'S A CITY OWNED ALLEY AND WE HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND MOW IT. SO YEAH, WE DO QUITE A BIT OF MOWING. 
          YOU KNOW, MORE THAN I EVER THOUGHT WE'D BE DOING. BUT THERE'S JUST ALL THESE ALLEYWAYS AND UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PARKS, THE PARKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, RIGHT-OF-WAYS. I'VE REACHED OUT TO, I'VE SENT SOME OF THESE THINGS TO STUART BEFORE. AND I KNOW THEY HAD A LIST AND I DON'T THINK THEY COULD JUST KEEP UP WITH WHAT THEY HAD GOING. SO WE TRIED TO ABSORB WHATEVER WE COULD AND HELP. THEY CAN'T KEEP UP AND I'VE TALKED WITH JASON. AND THOSE MOWERS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW, EVERY DAY SOMEWHERE, THOSE MOWERS ARE GOING. SO WEAR AND TEAR ON THOSE MOWERS. AND PEOPLE. AND THE PEOPLE. THOSE MOWERS ARE GOING ALL THE TIME, AND ALL YOU'RE DOING IS RUNNING THOSE MOWERS DOWN. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER ONE. I THINK WE APPROVED PARKS' NEW MOWER. YEAH, LAST YEAR THEY GOT TWO. BUT HE'S ASKING FOR MOWERS THIS YEAR. YEAH. 
          AND I'M SAYING IT MIGHT BE A SAVINGS AS WELL. BUT, I MEAN, I 
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KNOW YOU SAID THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT NEEDED A MOWER. 
          CORRECT, BUT THAT ONE'S NOT AS DIRE AS THE ONE THAT, THAT OLD ONE THEY HAVE IN THE, I THINK IT'S, YEAH, ONE OF THE ONES THE STREETS HAS. 
          IT'S LIKE 12 YEARS OLD. AND DOES THE WET WATER TREATMENT PLANT, DO THEY NEED A BIG, FANCY ONE? DO THEY NEED ZERO? THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST AREA TO MOW AT ONE TIME. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BIG GROUNDS OVER THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO MOW. I WOULDN'T SAY FANCY, NO, NOT BY ANY MEANS. JUST BUY WHATEVER. WE QUOTE A FEW ZERO TURNS AND GET WHICHEVER ONE'S THE CHEAPEST, YOU KNOW? DID WE GET A COST ON CONTRACT AT MOE? YES, WE DID ONE TIME. 
          VERSUS THE. IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE. NO, WE TALKED ABOUT. I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING CONTRACT. LISTEN, I'M SO SORRY. 
          FROM OUR BUDGET MEETING. MAYBE I'M THINKING, MAYBE I'LL SEE. 
          WE HAD DISCUSSED UNLOADING. IT WAS A BEAUTIFICATION. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS A VLC, I THINK. LIKE, JACKSON SWITCHED. YEAH, JACKSON HAS. 
          I'M THINKING, MAYBE I'LL SEE. 
          WE DISCUSS PERHAPS DOING LIKE A QUARTERLY BEAUTIFICATION OR A MONTHLY. BASICALLY, HAVING A CONTRACT SET UP. SOMEBODY CAN 12 TIMES A YEAR, MAYBE 15 TIMES A YEAR. GUESS DO A LITTLE MORE FINE-TUNED MOWING THAN YOU WOULD WITH A REGULAR MOW CREW. IT MAY SAVE MORE MONEY IF YOU DID IT. HAVING ONE CONTRACT VERSUS AN EMPLOYEE PAYING A SALARY, THAT FIXES IT. PARTIAL CONTRACT. MAYBE A PARTIAL CONTRACT FOR SOME THINGS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST TO GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE? AND IS IT ONE PERSON? YES, SIR. 
          LIKE WHEN THEY NEED SHOES. 
          OKAY, IF YOU WANTED TO UP JUST THE PERSON, IT WOULD COST YOU $37,000 TO CHANGE HIM TO A FULL TOTAL POSITION OF $93,000. IF YOU WANTED A NEW EMPLOYEE, A TECH, IT'S $57,000. BUT THE 93 IS REALLY PARTIALLY PAID. PAID FOR $94,000. DID SHE BEAT YOU UP, HECTOR? DID SHE BEAT YOU UP? NO, SHE DIDN'T. NOT YET. LET'S WAIT UNTIL THE MICS GO OFFLINE NEXT YEAR. I THINK WE SHOULD CHEW ON THIS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU. I'M FINE WITH CHEWING ON IT. WELL, YOU WERE WANTING TO MAKE THE POSITION CHANGE, RIGHT? YES AND NO. I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE THAT TOURIST MONEY. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE, AND JUST MY CURIOSITY, FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS TO SHARE AN EMPLOYEE? IF THEIR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY WAS JUST TO MOW. AND EQUIPMENT. IT'S LIKE A PERSON COULD MOW TWO DAYS A WEEK FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN TWO DAYS A WEEK FOR PARKS. I DON'T KNOW. JASON WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU, NO. 
          BECAUSE HE NEEDS ALL THE PEOPLE HE'S GOT. BUT IF THEY BOTH GOT A HALF EMPLOYEE, NO. 
          BUT IF YOU ADD IN ANOTHER ONE, THEN YOU CAN'T SHARE IT. IF YOU SHARE THE, SHARE, HALF CAME OUT OF ONE BUDGET AND HALF OF THE BUDGET CAME OUT OF THE OTHER. AND IF THEIR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY WAS JUST TO MOW, LIKE, BECAUSE THEY'RE, WHICH, I KNOW THERE'S WINTER MONTHS, BUT IF WE'RE LAWNERS, WE PROBABLY CAN MOW 10 MONTHS A YEAR. BUT WOULDN'T THERE, COULDN'T THERE BE OPPORTUNITY IN THAT AREA? FOR IF YOU'VE GOT A PARK THAT'S NEXT TO AN AREA THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS IS MOWING, 
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THAT MAYBE THEY COULD JUST TAKE OVER THAT AREA BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE TO DO SO. HAPPY COW. 
          YEAH, RATHER THAN MOBILIZING PARKS TO GO MOW RIGHT AWAY, THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A PARK. I THINK THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCY THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT HERE TOO, RATHER THAN JUST JUMPING AROUND. WELL, I MEAN, THE SAME GOES FOR THE SAME. I MEAN, YOU COULD DO IT. IF SOMEBODY WAS MOWING SOMETHING FOR PUBLIC WORKS. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE STRICTLY BY DAYS, BUT IF IT'S PUBLIC WORKS AND IT DOES HAPPEN, YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A PARK, JUST GO JUMP OVER TO ANOTHER PARK NEXT, OR VICE VERSA. YOU'RE IN A PARK AND THERE'S A. AND A LOT OF THE LIFT STATIONS ARE JUST SMALL, WHERE YOU NEED IT MOWED, RIGHT? YEAH, THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM WHERE IT'S JUST, WE JUST GO AND THEY GO IN THERE WITH A WEEDING AND JUST TAKE CARE OF IT, YOU KNOW. AND WE WERE, WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO CONVERT SOME OF THOSE, RIGHT? LIKE, WE'LL GO IN THERE AND LIKE, THERE'S ONE WE'RE DOING SOME WORK ON ALREADY. WE'LL GO IN THERE AND TRY TO TEAR OUT ALL THE CRAFTS. AND PUT ROCK, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY. WE CAN JUST SPRAY EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT THEN THAT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, ROCK ISN'T CHEAP. YEAH, IT'LL COST MONEY, SO WE TRY TO LIMIT THAT AMOUNT. 
          BUT SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO DO NOW IS WE'VE GOT TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON A LOT OF CRUSHED ROCK SOON. BECAUSE OF TCQ'S BEEN GETTING ON TO US. ABOUT HAVING ALL-WEATHER ACCESS ROADS, WHICH IS BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON AND GET ACCESS TO THIS PLACE 24-7. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE WEATHER IS. IS THAT THE OLD LIFT STATIONS? WELL, SO FAR, THE WATER PLANTS, BUT WE NEED TO START GETTING AFTER IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIGGER PUSH ON IT. 
          SO, COUNCIL, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS NOW, AND SO I NEED TO TRY TO SEE WHICH DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO WITH THE TAX RATE SO I CAN PREPARE A NEW BUDGET. 
          WE DO HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET SCHEDULE IF IT WAS NECESSARY, BUT SINCE WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE BUDGETS, I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE NECESSARY, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ALL NEED TO DECIDE. THE NEXT BUDGET, IF IT WAS TO HAPPEN, WOULD BE ON THE 13TH, NEXT THURSDAY. SO YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE TAX RATE, RIGHT? WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND AND WHAT'S THERE? ON THE 25TH, WE HAVE TO DO THE FIRST. READING? READING, YES. 
          OF THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE TAX RATE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO WORK WITH. I'M SILENT FOR A REASON. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN SPEAK IF THEY'D LIKE. I THINK I'VE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR ON MY STANCE. DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER, SUSIE, ON THE 2 TO 2.5, THE 2 AND THE 1, WITH WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THERE, WHAT DO WE PAY FOR? THE 685 IS YOUR DENOMINATION RATE. 7-6-9-5-6-5. IS THE 2.5 CENT INCREASE OF THE RATE THAT WE ARE NOW, NOT OFF THE DOMENICIS RATE, OF THE RATE WE ARE NOW, WHICH WOULD BRING IT UP TO 54026, WHICH IS .92 INCREASE OF THE DOMENICIS RATE. COUNCIL? ANNA? IT WAS A VALIANT EFFORT. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. THREE-CENT INCREASE DOESN'T REALLY HURT ANYONE. I TAKE THAT BACK. THE TWO-AND-A-HALF INCREASE IS .42. I MEAN, I'LL SEE THE CITY MANAGER. I'M GOING TO NOD. 
          OF COURSE, HE'S GOING TO NOD. 
          JUST LIKE I TOLD HIM THE OTHER DAY AT TEXT DOT, OF COURSE, HE DOESN'T WANT A U-TURN BECAUSE IT'S SAFER. I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST, HE'S GOING TO SPEAK FROM A SAFETY POINT. HE'S GOING TO SPEAK FROM THAT POSITION, WHICH IS FINE. AND IF, CORRECT ME, IF I'M WRONG, SUSIE, IF YOU ADOPT WHATEVER RATE YOU HAVE, SAY YOU GET THAT $130,000, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO LOWER, YOU CAN'T GO HIGHER. CORRECT. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE BUDGET. 
          [03:10:05]
I AGREE 100% AND ALSO THINK WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO THE DE MINIMIS AT MAX. AND AS YOU WELL KNOW, COUNCIL THE DIRECTORS HAVE STAYED TO THEIR BUDGETS AND NOT INCREASED BUDGETS. THE ONLY BUT INCREASES THAT WE HAVE DONE IS NECESSARY ITEMS THAT WERE NOT BUDGETED LAST YEAR. HOW MUCH IN TOTAL INCREASES IN SPENDING DO YOU HAVE? IT'S A 5% INCREASE 637. DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER? LIKE CHIEF SAID, THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN, AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE JAMESON, MONEY, GO DOWN CAN'T GO DOWN. 
          AFTER YOU ADOPTED IT ON THE FIRST READ, YOU CAN CREATE THE BUDGET AND GO THROUGH IT UNTIL THE VERY LAST ROLL CALL VOTE. THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO ADOPT IT. YOU HAVE TO ADOPT IT IN SEPTEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT. CAN YOU GO DOWN AFTER SEPTEMBER IF YOU GET THAT MONEY? NO. NO. WE COULD USE IT. 
          AT LEAST WE'RE NOT ROSENBERG. 
          DO WE NEED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING? YOU'VE HEARD FROM ME, YOU'VE HEARD FROM TANNER. THE REST OF YOU ALL HAVE GOT TO CHIME IN SOMEWHERE. SO A 5% INCREASE GETS YOU AN ADDITIONAL $637? NO. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DIMINUTIVENESS GIVES YOU ALREADY THE TWO STANDS. IF WE LIKE TO GO TO TWO AND A HALF, IT GOES TO $769. RIGHT. THE INCREASE IN REVENUE. SO, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET SHORTFALL, $637. THAT'S WHAT WE INITIALLY WERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING. RIGHT. 
          AND THEN IF YOU ADD A DE MINIMIS, YOU COVER THAT SHORTFALL, YES? YES. 
          WITHOUT ANY OTHER OF THE INCREASES, YES. THAT'S WHEN WE WERE AT $21,000, WHATEVER, AT THE TOP, IF YOU WANT, WITH THE DE MINIMIS. 
          THAT WAS $21,000. I LEAN TOWARDS THE DE MINIMIS. I'LL JUST PUT IT THERE. YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE HAD LEFT, TRAVIS, AT THE DIVINUS. 
          BARBARA, CHRISTIENE. LEANING TOWARDS THE MINIMUS. IT'S ICKY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT COVERED AND BIG BACON ON THAT TERSE. THE WATER INCREASING, EVERYTHING INCREASING, IT'S JUST HARD. 
          THE DE MINIMIS ACCOUNTS FOR TWO. THE NEXT LEVEL IS A HALF, AND THE OTHER ONE IS A WHOLE. 
          RIGHT. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT LOWERING IT, I HAD DONE A RESEARCH ON ALL THE TAX FOR THE COUNTY, AND IT ALL SHOWED THE SAME PATTERN. WE'RE FOLLOWING IT. LOWER IT, LOWER IT, LOWER IT, BOONK, BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. WHAT DOES THE MINIMUMS PAY FOR, SUSIE? ANYTHING ON WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR? WITH ADDITIONAL, NOW THE 168 THAT WE PUT IN FOR THE SALES TAX, THAT WENT STRAIGHT TO YOUR STREET DEPARTMENT. SO YOU DIDN'T GET ANY INCREASES ON YOUR SALES TAX. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WE DID. WE GAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES, 21,000, 4,500, 45,000, THAT 27 IS FROM THE PARKS, BECAUSE OF THE PARKS. WHAT DID IT PAY FOR? THE DIMINISHES IT PAID FOR OUR INCREASES OF 3% ACROSS THE BOARD. OTHER EXTRA PERSONNEL THINGS, BUT A LOT OF 
          [03:15:02]
THE DEPARTMENTS JUST LOWERED THEIR OWN APARTMENTS, ONE LINE ITEM TO THE OTHER. SO THERE WERE NO INCREASES TO THOSE LINE ITEMS. WELL, THERE'S INCREASES IN ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT ON SPENDING OF DIFFERENT THINGS, WHICH I'M NOT AGAINST. I THINK WE'RE INVESTING AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS. THEY SAID, FIX THINGS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THEM. I GET IT. 
          BUT WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONE BUDGET CYCLE, IN MY OPINION. I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST. WRITE A BLANK CHECK AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. NOBODY'S ASKING FOR THAT. NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. AND THAT'S ABSURD TO INSINUATE. IT'S THE FIGURE OF SPEECH, IN MY OPINION. I'M JUST SAYING THAT. HONESTLY, IT'S A LOT TO. CITIZENS SEE THE TAX RATE GO UP. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE. AND IT'S MESSAGING AND MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING. IF I GO AND INCREASE IT MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT AN ADOPTED BUDGET FOR, WHAT DO I SAY? THAT THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GO DO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THEM LINED OUT YET? I MEAN, THAT'S. 
          THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT. 
          WELL, WE HAD A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE SHOW UP, ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SHOW UP TODAY FOR THIS. AND AT THE HEIGHT, I THINK THERE WERE 23 PEOPLE WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM. SO WE'LL HAVE ROUGHLY 25 PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE REASONS THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, AND THE REST OF THEM WILL JUST BE COMPLAINING ON TALK OF ANGLETON AND BC UPDATES, WITH LITTLE OR NO INFORMATION WITH WHICH TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. 
          IT WAS A GOOD ARTICLE IN THE FACTS OF DAVE, WHERE SUSIE AND GAR GOT TOGETHER, PUT THE NUMBERS IN THE FACTS ON THE INCREASES AND WHAT IT WOULD AFFECT A $260,000 HOME. THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, THANK YOU. IT WAS FRONT PAGE. 
          AND SUSIE, WHAT WOULD IT INCREASE IT, LIKE $40 OR SOMETHING? FOR THE AVERAGE? $260,000. ON A $230,000 HOME, WHICH IS OUR AVERAGE HOME VALUE. RATTLE IT OFF, BLAINE. 
          RATTLE IT OFF. SO, MY SIMPLE MATH, LOOKING AT IT, IF WE WERE TO GO UP TO THE .54, NOT SAYING I'M IN FAVOR FOR IT, BUT JUST SIMPLE MATH, SO IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT, OUR AVERAGE HOME VALUE IN TOWN IS ABOUT $230,000. BREAK THAT OUT MONTHLY, IT'S AN INCREASE OF $5.75 PER HOUSEHOLD IN TOWN. BUT MY STANDOFF IS IT'S NOT JUST THE TAX INCREASE, IT'S THE WASTE AND WATER THAT'S GOING UP, THE TRASH IS GOING UP. SO IT'S NOT JUST $5.75 OR $6 FOR SIMPLE MATH. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S MORE THAN THAT. BUT, I MEAN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S ONLY $6, BASICALLY, A MONTH EXTRA PER HOUSE. AND IT GOES UP FROM THERE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IN A $500,000 HOME OR $400,000 HOME, IT GOES UP MORE. I'LL JUST THROW IT IN AGAIN. I SAID IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET HEARINGS THAT ALL THESE DIRECTORS AND ALL EMPLOYEES IN THIS CITY HAVE WORKED WITH. 
          NOT THE SKELETAL BUDGET, BUT THE MINIMAL BUDGET, AND WE'RE DOING IT. YES, WE ARE. BUT THE CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE WERE. A YEAR AGO TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND WE'RE IN A HECK OF A LOT BETTER SHAPE BECAUSE OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND BECAUSE OF SUSIE, AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIRECTORS. THEY'RE WORKING WITH, YOU'RE GONNA WORK THEM TO THE YOU KNOW, WORK YOUR FINGERS TO THE BONES. THEY'RE WORKING. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY'RE WORKING. 
          BUT GIVE THEM REINVEST, AND YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THE CITIZENS WILL KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GETTING THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE GETTING. IT'S CUT. WE'RE NOT RAISING ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET EXCEPT FOR THE NECESSARY ITEMS. WE'RE MOST, 95% OF EVERY DEPARTMENT IS ON THE SAME FLAT BUDGET THAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR. AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING. AND I'M PROUD OF EVERYONE, THE EMPLOYEES AND DIRECTORS IN THIS CITY. THEY'RE DOING ONE HECK OF A JOB AT THE FLAT BUDGET THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING 
          [03:20:05]
ON. SO I JUST ASK YOU ALL TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T. I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION. THESE EMPLOYEES IN THIS CITY HAVE MADE EVERY ONE OF US LOOK GOOD AND DOING THE JOBS THEY'RE DOING. AND WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THEM AS WELL. BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS GROUP, BETWEEN THIS COUNCIL, THIS STAFF, THE ADMINISTRATION AND THIS BUILDING, IT WORKS TOGETHER WELL. I DON'T HAVE A VOTE, BUT I SAY THREE CENTS. SO I'LL JUST SAY THIS AS SOMEONE WHO WON'T BE HERE FOR THE NEXT VOTE NEXT YEAR. 
          YOU JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL. 
          YOU RAISED IT THREE CENTS THIS YEAR. THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THREE CENTS AGAIN NEXT YEAR. AND THEY'RE GOING TO ORDER TWO AND A HALF. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY NO AT SOME POINT. OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I GUESS YOU CAN JUST KEEP RAISING TAXES, AND THAT'S A PUSH. YOU CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE AS WELL AND FACE WHATEVER POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS FOR THAT. YEAH, THERE'S POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I'LL ALSO SAY THAT BETWEEN WHAT'S COMING. WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN SOME SALES TAX REVENUE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M EXPECTING, TOO. AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO KEEP RAISING THE TAXES. I THINK AFTER. I'M JUST SAYING, THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS ALWAYS GOES UP. AND SO, I HAVE TAKEN PERSONALLY A POSITION OF MY TIME ON COUNCIL TO GO ALTERNATE. I'VE ALTERNATED BETWEEN NO NEW NET REVENUE AND RAISING BECAUSE I'VE TRIED TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE, PERSONALLY, TO BE THE BALANCE. BECAUSE I DO RESPECT THE TAXPAYERS AND I DO RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN CITY HALL. AND SO I'M TRYING TO WORK IN BALANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS. I SAID THIS TWO YEARS AGO, WHENEVER WE IMPLEMENTED THE FUNDING FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. I SAID IT WAS A TAX, EVERYBODY TOLD ME, NO, IT'S A FEE. IT'S THE SAME DAMN PURPOSE. FUNDS IMPROVEMENT TO YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT, AND IT COMES FROM YOUR TAXPAYERS. SO WHAT? WE CAN ARGUE OVER SEMANTICS, IF IT'S A FEAR ATTACKS, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE. IT DOES ENCAPSULATE, TO ME, ALL OF THE ALL OF WHAT IS EXPECTED FROM THE TAXPAYER TO PAY. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          TO LOOK AT ONE AND IGNORE THE OTHER, I DON'T THINK, IS WISE. SO MY MEMORY IS PRETTY GOOD. AND I REMEMBER MAKING THE MOTION TO LOWER THE TAX RATE. I REMEMBER BEING PRETTY TRANSPARENT IN SAYING THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO GET INTO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE BUDGET AND TO CLEAN THINGS UP AND TO REALLY SHORE UP THE CITY'S SPENDING. I WAS ALSO TRANSPARENT IN SAYING THAT I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF MAINTAINING THAT TAX RATE GOING FORWARD. THAT ONCE WE GOT EVERYTHING CLEANED UP, THAT WE HAD PROJECTS, WE HAD INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETE, AND WE HAD PERSONNEL ISSUES THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF. WITH REGARDS TO HEADCOUNT AND PAY. AND THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND IT. 
          CUTTING OFF FUNDING SO THAT WE COULD SHORE UP THE BUDGET. AND THEN PUTTING OURSELVES BACK WHERE WE WERE AS FAR AS FUNDING SO THAT WE COULD COMPLETE THE PROJECTS AND SUPPORT THE CITY THROUGH OUR BUDGET AND OUR PERSONNEL. I WAS HERE, I 
          [03:25:02]
REMEMBER SAYING IT. I REMEMBER YOU SAYING IT. YEAH, I REMEMBER YOU SAYING IT, TOO. 
          BUT WHAT I'M COMING TO YOU FROM THE STANDPOINT IS, IF WE WERE TO INCREASE TAX RATE, WHETHER IT'S DE MINIMIS OR SOMETHING GREATER THAN THAT, BUT LESS THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. 
          AND THEN WHAT I'M GOING TO IS, MY PERSONAL POSITION IS I WON'T BE HERE NEXT YEAR TO SAY NOT DOING IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. OR WE'RE GONNA DO IT, BUT I'M GONNA BE AT A VERY LOW NUMBER, IT'S GONNA BE VERY DE MINIMIS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I'M THINKING FOR MYSELF. WHAT MY POINT WAS IS THAT IN KEEPING IT WHERE WHERE IT WAS, WE'RE GOING AGAINST WHAT I BELIEVED. MY ORIGINAL INTENTION FOR THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WAS WELL, SEE, I THINK YOU'RE. I MEAN, I DIDN'T SAY NO, NEW, NEVER, NEVER. IT WOULD STILL BE A TAX. 
          NO DE MINIMIS IS STILL A TAX INCREASE. NO, I CAN'T READ TRAVELS. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S THE IDEA THAT I I'M FLATTENING, THAT MY VOTE IS TO FLATTEN THINGS OUT IS NOT ACCURATE. I THINK ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID, TANNER, ARE TRUE, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THIS BUDGET. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE TO IMPROVE EQUIPMENT, TO GET MORE PROJECTS DONE, AND HELP THE EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE SOME NEW POSITIONS IN HERE. BUT I'VE ALSO GONE AROUND TO THE CITIZENRY AND SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS, AND THEY HAVE SAID, PASS IT AND GET THE WORK DONE. I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS WOULD BE MAD AT YOU FOR THE DE MINIMIS AND STILL GETTING STUFF DONE. 
          WELL, I DON'T EXPECT THEY WOULD BE. I'VE TALKED TO THEM. AND, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 30% OF THEM, MAYBE 50% OF THEM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE IRRITATED ABOUT IT ANYWAY. I CAN'T TALK TO EVERYBODY. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYONE THAT SAID THEY WANTED THE MINIMUS TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS? THERE IS. PLEASE SPEAK NOW. I'D BE WILLING TO COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TWO. LIKE A 2.25? OR THE 2.5 IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, IN BETWEEN. 
          YEAH. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? I BELIEVE THAT WHOLE THREE-QUARTERS OF THE SEVEN ON THE TABLE. YEAH, THAT'S THE $109,000 AND THE $21,000. 
          BLAINE, WHERE ARE YOU AT? DE MINIMUS. BARBARA? DE MINIMUS. 
          TRAVIS? YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND. 
          OKAY. SUZY, DO YOU NEED US TO TAKE AN ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO GO FORWARD WITH, SO I CAN PREPARE ALL THE PAPERWORK AND GET READY. OR TO SEE, WE NEED ANOTHER MEETING ON THE 13TH. SO YOU CAN BALANCE THE BUDGET WITH WHATEVER THEY GIVE YOU. 
          YES. I'M OKAY WITH MEETING ON THE 13TH TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          IF Y'ALL WANT TO MEET. YEAH. 
          OKAY. THEN TAKE NO ACTION, COME BACK THE 13TH. IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO? YES. 
          OKAY. I WANT TIME TO MULL IT OVER MORE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? DID I GIVE YOU TIME, SUSIE? OKAY. WELL, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AT 930.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.