* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT, THE TIME [00:00:01] IS 5 31. [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER] I'M CALLING THE SEPTEMBER 29TH TUESDAY MEETING FOR ANGLETON, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION. THERE IS A DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR [1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of February 17, 2026, April 20, 2026, June 15, 2026, July 28, 2026 and August 17.2026.] AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026. APRIL 20TH, 2026. JUNE 15TH, 2026. JULY 28TH, 2026, AND AUGUST 17TH, 2026. THANK YOU, TRAVIS. UH, AS TRAVIS MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW, UH, MINUTES. UM, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM. UH, JUST PLAIN SOME CATCH UP ON SOME PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UH, AS WE HAD SOME STAFF OUTS AS WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO GET THOSE, UH, COMPLETED FOR THIS YEAR UNTIL YOU DO HAVE THE FIVE OF THEM IN YOUR PACKETS TO REVIEW. MOTION. TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SINGLE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. SAME SIGN FOR ANYBODY OPPOSED. NOT HEARING. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER TWO, UPDATE [2. Update and discussion on the Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation, and Angleton Recreation Center YTD financial statements as of September 21, 2026. ] AND DISCUSSION ON THE ANGLETON, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, RECREATION AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. YEAR TO DATE. FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS OF SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2026. UH, THANK YOU TRAVIS, JASON, CIA. YEAH, PLEASURE TO BE HERE. UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TODAY, UH, AS THIS LITTLE OFF FROM OUR NORMAL ONE. UH, BUT WANTED TO, AS REGULAR MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR FINANCIAL STATUS, UH, IN CURRENTLY CS. SO YOU'LL SEE TWO THINGS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET THERE. UH, FIRST ONE IS OUR REPORTS FOR FINANCIALS FOR ANDERSON, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, UH, RECREATION, UH, DIVISION, AND THE, UH, ANGLETON, UH, RECREATION CENTER. UM, AND SO YOU'LL HAVE THOSE TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT FIRST AS WELL AS WE GO DOWN TO PAGE, UH, 26. UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED THE, UM, GET YOU, UH, SALES TAX, UPDATED SALES TAX THREE AS WELL. SO LET'S GET JOHN THOSE NUMBERS. , WE KNOW HE LIKES LOOKING AT NUMBERS. UH, I WILL POINT OUT FOR PAGE 26 FIRST. UH, SO THAT ONE DOES INCLUDE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE RECEIVED FOR SEPTEMBER. UM, SO WHILE WE DID SEE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE, IT WASN'T MUCH, BUT IT STILL MAINTAINS US AT ABOUT 3.5% FOR THE YEAR. DO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING 6%, SO THIS IS STILL BELOW OUR PROJECTION. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. UH, WE ANTICIPATE EVEN IF WE STAY THERE, WE SHOULD BE, WE'RE THAT THREE AND A HALF. SO IT STILL KEEPS US IN THE POSITIVE, UH, BUT WE'RE BEING MINDFUL OF, UH, SOME OF OUR SPENDING AS WELL AS WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, WHAT OUR CONTINGENCY PLANS LOOK LIKE. SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT ONE OUT THERE. SO WE STILL HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES TO RECORD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN, UH, THIS BUDGET. SO, UM, KIND OF GOING THROUGH BACK TO THE TOP, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT BUDGETS, UH, REPORTS STARTING ON PAGE, UH, 17, UH, YOU'LL SEE THERE AS FAR AS REVENUES, YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED. JUST SO YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE SALES TAX AS FAR AS WHERE REVENUE GOES. SO WE'RE STILL MISSING THE, THE TWO. UH, SO WE DO ANTICIPATE, AGAIN, HAVING A SHORTAGE THERE, BUT BEING MINDFUL OF SOME OF THE SPENDING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS TO POINT OUT ON PAGE 18 IS LOOKING AT OUR CONTINGENCY LINE, WE DO HAVE A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY LINE THAT WOULD HELP COVER THAT. SO WE ARE, UH, AWARE OF THAT ONE. THE OTHER THINGS TO BE MINDFUL OF HERE IS NOT ALL THE TRANSFERS HAVE HAPPENED. SO SUSIE DOES THOSE FINAL TRANSFERS. UM, TYPICALLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, SHE'S CURRENTLY ON VACATION, SO WHEN SHE COMES BACK NEXT WEEKEND, SHE'LL BE DOING THE FINAL TRANSFERS TO HELP CLOSE OUT OUR FISCAL YEAR. UM, AS FAR AS THOSE NUMBERS. SO YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, FULL DETAILS WITH THAT ONE. UM, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROJECTS, THOSE CONTINUE TO BE UPDATED AS WELL. AND SO WE'LL LIKE MAKE SURE THAT STUFF'S UPDATED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IS IT RELATES TO WHAT IS REMAINING IN THOSE PROJECT LINES. UM, INGLETON RECREATION CENTER, UH, LAUNCH, SORRY, REC DIVISION FIRST. UH, I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT ON MAYORS, UH, A LITTLE HARD TO SEE THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S BROKEN DOWN BECAUSE THAT TRANSFER HASN'T BEEN DONE. BUT AS FAR AS THEIR REGULAR REVENUE GOES, THEY HAD ALREADY EXCEEDED THEIR REVENUE GOAL. UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE THIS. SO THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE SEPTEMBER'S NUMBERS AS WELL. AND SO WE DO ANTICIPATE THEY SHOULD BEAT THEIR REVENUE BILL FOR BY ABOUT $10,000. SO, UH, DEFINITELY A POSITIVE THERE. [00:05:01] UM, AND THE REVERSE OF THAT, UH, AS YOU GO DOWN TO PAGE 21, IT WILL SUMMARIZE, UH, THE REC DIVISION FOR THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. SO WE DO ANTICIPATE, UH, A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE GOING, UH, BACK TO A BLC. UH, DO AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL SEPTEMBER NUMBERS, UM, BUT THEY, UH, WERE VERY DILIGENT WITH THEIR SPENDING. UH, HAD A COUPLE SAVINGS, UM, IN VARIOUS AREAS. UH, I WILL POINT OUT THOUGH, THERE WAS, UM, SOME ERRORS IN SOME PAYROLL. IT DOESN'T IMPACT A PLC, IT JUST IMPACTS OUR NUMBERS. AND SO THERE WAS SOME MISCLASSIFICATION BETWEEN THE REC CENTER AND REC DIVISION. AND SO ULTIMATELY THE REC DIVISION WAS CHARGED FOR STAFF THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE REC CENTER. YOU'LL STILL SEE THAT SAVINGS COMING FROM THE REC CENTER. UM, SO JUST KEEPING IN MIND, UH, THAT AS WELL, UH, AS WE CONTINUE ON THAT TRENDS ON PAGE 22, YOU'LL SEE THE REC CENTER'S REVENUE THERE. WE DO KNOW THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORTFALL, UH, ON SOME OF OUR REVENUE NUMBERS DUE TO OUR CLOSURE TO THE POOL. UH, WE DID HAVE A COST SAVINGS THAT COMES FROM OUR STAFFING ON THAT 'CAUSE WE WEREN'T IN FULL OPERATIONS. SO IT IS GONNA MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE THERE. UH, BUT THEY DID ALSO HIT SOME OF THEIR REVENUE GOALS AND SO WE SHOULD BE FAIRLY CLOSE ON THOSE NUMBERS. SO, UH, DEFINITELY A POSITIVE CONSIDER THERE. IT LOOKS A LITTLE STRANGE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE BECAUSE ANYTHING IN PARENTHESES MEANS A POSITIVE ON THE REVENUE SIDE. UH, SO EXAMPLE I GAVE IS OUR MEMBERSHIPS, OUR FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS ALREADY GET THE REVENUE GOAL THIS YEAR. SO, UM, BUT IN REVERSE OF THAT, OUR DAY, DAY PAST ENTRIES DID NOT. UM, AND SO YOU'LL KIND OF SEE THAT AS WELL. UH, BUT AS YOU FOLLOW DOWNS AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF, UH, PAGE 25, UM, YOU'LL SEE THERE OVER UNDER PROJECTIONS AS WELL. AND SO THEY SHOULD HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE BACK TO AB A BLC AS WELL. UH, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS AT OUR OCTOBER MEETING BECAUSE, UH, ALL, UH, EXPENSES AND PAYROLL WILL BE PUT IN FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS DONE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO GO BACK TO A BLC AT THAT TIME. YEAH, BUT YOU'RE STILL ONE, YOU'RE STILL TWO MONTHS SHORT IN REVENUE, TWO MONTHS SHORT IN REVENUE FOR WORKING L REVENUE ONE MONTH SHORTENED EXPENSE, UH, ONE MONTH SHORT IN EXPENSE AND REVENUE FOR REC DIVISION AND A RC, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. YES. I WAS, YOU WERE TALKING, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE SALES TAX. I WAS LIKE, I KNOW WE'RE ABOUT TWO MONTHS BEHIND EVERY TIME. YES. SO I WAS WAITING FOR THOSE. I WAS LIKE, WE STILL HAVE MORE REVENUE TO GO. SO YEAH. SO THERE'S, THERE IS MORE REVENUE TO GO. THAT'S RIGHT. THE ONE THAT DOES ROAD OFF IS A BLC 'CAUSE IT IS TWO MONTHS. THAT'S RIGHT. UH, SO UNTIL WE TRULY SEE THOSE, IT'S THE BIG GENERATOR. IT IS. UM, BUT FROM THE REC CENTER AND THE REC DIVISION SIDE, WE DO ANTICIPATE A FUND BALANCE GOING BACK. 'CAUSE BOTH OF THEM ARE AT THEIR FUND BALANCE CAP OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND. THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO ANYTHING THAT IS REMAINING FROM THEIR BUDGETS THIS YEAR WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK TO ALCS FUND BALANCE. IT'S OVER 200,000, UH, POTENTIALLY YES. COMBINED. YEAH. UM, NOW DO KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU SELL A SEPTEMBER PAYROLL IS ONE OF THE BIG ONES, I WOULD SAY MM-HMM . UM, AND SO IT COULD BE, IF I HAD TO GUESS MAYBE AROUND ONE 50 EVEN. SO, STILL BETTER THAN THAT. UM, AND ARE YOU SEEING YOUR DAY PASSES INCREASING SINCE THE POOL OPEN AGAIN? YES. IS, THAT'S REALLY THE SHORTFALL, IS THE POOL BEING CLOSED, THE POOL BEING CLOSED. UH, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UM, THE DAY PASSES FOR THE SUMMER. WE BEAT OUR MARK FOR LAST YEAR'S NUMBER DAY PASSES, BUT FROM DECEMBER THROUGH RIGHT. JUNE AND SEVERELY DEPLETED IT. UM, AND SO THE SAME THING CAN BE SAID FOR THE RENTALS IS BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY PICK UP ON RENTALS AROUND SPRING BREAK, BUT WE MISS MARCH, UH, APRIL AND MAY ON RENTALS. AND SO THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE RENTAL REVENUE. SO, SO, SO JASON, SORRY. SO YOU SAID THE DAY PASSES, UM, YEAR TO DATE'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE CLOSING OF DIRECTION OF THE POOL. NO DOUBT. SO I GUESS YEAR OVER YEAR, COMPARING THE TIME OF WHICH THE, THE POOL OPENED TO THIS POINT, RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR'S SPAN COMPARED TO 2025, IS THIS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME OR WE ARE UP THIS YEAR, OUR REVENUE FOR DAY PASSES DURING THAT SPAN. SO IF WE SAY JUNE TO NOW, OUR REVENUE FOR DAY PASSES WAS UP. YEAH. UM, AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING. IF I RECALL, UH, MEMBERSHIPS WAS THE SAME IN THAT SPAN. UM, NOW KEEP IN MIND, DAY PASS IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SHOW THAT, UH, DATA FROM, 'CAUSE IT'S SIMPLE A DAY PASS TRANSACTION. UM, MEMBERSHIPS CAN BE A LITTLE SKEWED IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE PAUSED OR CANCELED THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND WAITED TO THE POOL REOPENED. AND SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE AN INFLUX OF THOSE FOR THE MEMBERSHIPS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT DURING THE OFF TIME OF, YOU KNOW, THE SIX MONTHS. UM, SO THAT'S A, CAN BE A LITTLE BIT SKEWED, BUT THE DAY PASSES IS PRETTY EASY BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T PROLONGING THAT PER SE, OF, YOU KNOW, YOU [00:10:01] WANTED TO COME IN FEBRUARY AND YOU WAITED TO COME IN JUNE. MOST LIKELY PEOPLE WHO WERE GONNA COME IN JUNE WERE COMING IN JUNE. SO, UM, BUT THE DAY PASSES, YES, THE, YOU SAW REVENUE INCREASE FROM THE DAY PASSES COMPARED TO THIS TIME LAST YEAR. BUT I'LL SAY OVERALL, UM, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, YEAH, ALTHOUGH A LARGE NUMBER, 27,000 IS, WAS OUR MISS, UH, FOR DAY PASSES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MISSING SIX MONTHS OF WHO, UH, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE IMPACT IT HAD ON MEMBERS AND BRINGING GUESTS AND ALL THAT BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO USE THE ENTIRE FACILITY WAS JUST DOWN IN THAT REGARD. SO, UM, BUT KNOWING THAT WHEN AGAIN, WE LOOK AT OUR FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS, WE'VE ALREADY HIT OUR FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS GOAL AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE SEPTEMBER. UM, AND SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OFFSET THAT COMES WITH THAT ONE AS WELL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? GOOD? EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY. MOVING ON. ITEM [3. Discussion and possible actions to approved Parks, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2026-2027. ] NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE PARKS, RECREATION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISION BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 THROUGH 2027. UH, THANK YOU TRAVIS. JASON, I'M, I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAGE 27, THAT IS THE CORRECT ONE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA CONTENT, IT SAYS FREEDOM PARK. THAT IS NOT CORRECT. UM, SO THIS IS THE, UH, AGENDA CONTENT FOR THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. UH, THIS ONE'S PRETTY QUICK. AS YOU RECALL FROM OUR LAST ONE, WE BROUGHT THESE NUMBERS TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE ADDITIONS THAT CAME FROM OUR DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL AND OUR BUDGET MEETING IN JULY. SO WE UPDATED THOSE NUMBERS TO, TO REFLECT, UH, REFLECT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAD, AS WELL AS, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, UH, STAFF RAISES. AND SO THOSE WERE REFLECTED IN THEIR CITY COUNCIL, UH, HAD ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FROM 'EM AS WELL AS THE ADOPTION OF THEIR BUDGETS IN SEPTEMBER. AND SO THIS JUST REFLECTS THOSE NUMBERS TO BRING BEFORE YOU SO YOU CAN SEE THAT. SO Y'ALL CAN OFFICIALLY, UH, APPROVE THOSE, UH, THIS BUDGET AS WELL. SO, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE, BUT THESE NUMBERS HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM WHAT YOU LAST SAW IN THE AUGUST ONE. YOU DON'T NEED ANY ACTION FROM US, JUST AN FYI, UH, TECHNICALLY IT WAS. OR DO YOU NEED US TO APPROVE 'EM? YEAH, TECHNICALLY A DLC DID NOT APPROVE THEIR BUDGETS AT THE AUGUST MEETING. UM, AND SO BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE, UM, WHERE SOME OF THE DIRECTION WAS GONNA GO, SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO APPROVE IT AT THAT TIME WITHOUT, SO THAT'S WHY I BRING IT BACK ON SEPTEMBER ONE. AND SO WE WANNA APPROVE LIKE THE PARKS RIGHT WAY, JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S LISTED AS RECOMMENDATION. YES. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, UH, FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27 BUDGETS FOR THE PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY RECREATION INLAND REC CENTER, UH, IN DIVISIONS, BATTLE, UH, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISION THAT'S PRESENTED. I SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CALLING FOR VOTE. DOES, UH, ME A BLC WAS NOT INCLUDED IN HIS MOTION? OKAY. YEAH. AND FROM BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISIONS AS PRESENTED. YES. THANK YOU. SO I THINK NOW, SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR, I WANNA MAKE SURE YEAH, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE, UH, SO YOU RECOMMEND THIS. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27 BUDGETS FOR THE PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY RECREATION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND THE ANGLETON BAY LIVING CORPORATION DIVISIONS THAT'S PRESENTED. OKAY. DO Y'ALL HAVE THE SAME SECOND? YES, SAME SECOND. SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE CALLING FOR THE VOTE? IT'S A GOOD TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. JOHN, NO QUESTIONS? NOPE, NOT ON THIS ONE. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE, NOT HEARING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED MOTION SINGLE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. SAME SIGN IF ANY OPPOSED? NOT HEARING. THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR, [4. Discussion and possible action on Freedom Park Field Project. ] DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON FREEDOM PARK FIELD PROJECT. I STILL SEE JASON UP THERE, SO YEAH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. UM, SO AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, UH, A FEW TIMES OVER THE PAST COUPLE MEETINGS. THIS IS AN UPDATES, UH, TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND, UH, SEEK DIRECTION ON HOW THE BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. UH, JUST A QUICK RECAP. UH, SO AT OUR JULY MEETING, WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. WE DID RECEIVE A CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL, UH, [00:15:01] DUE TO LOOKING AT, UH, RAISING THE FIELDS, UH, BECAUSE OF DRAINAGE CONCERNS THAT WE WERE SEEING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. UH, SO IT WAS, UH, BROUGHT BEFORE FROST. UH, I DO HAVE FROST HERE WITH ME TODAY AS WELL. UH, ETT PROVIDED A, UH, CHANGE ORDER REQUEST FROM THEM TO RAISE THE FIELDS. UH, THEIR PROPOSAL CAME BACK AT JUST OVER $300,000. AND SO THAT WAS THE CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME. UH, HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME, BURNETT DID, UH, MENTION THAT THEY MAY HAVE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR A CHEAPER OPTION. UH, AND SO, UH, THE BOARD DECIDED TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION, UH, TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION TO COME BACK AND HAVE, UH, THIS DISCUSSION HERE TODAY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, AND SO, UH, I WILL SAY IT DID TAKE A LITTLE TIME FOR VERDICT TO GET, UM, SPECIFICS TO FROST. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT PUTS US HERE TODAY. UH, AND THEY PUT TOGETHER CHANGE PROPOSAL NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH YOU WILL SEE HERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UH, BASED ON THE REC RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY, UH, THE ASSOCIATED ENGINEER WITH BIRD'S, UH, TO, UH, ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE AROUND THE FIELD. AND SO THIS PROPOSAL WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO THE ELEVATION OF THE FIELD. IT WOULD STAY TO THE CURRENT SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. UH, HOWEVER WE WOULD LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE FIELD BY, UH, DIGGING THE SWELLS DEEPER. UH, THE, UH, CURRENT PROPOSAL YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET WOULD INCLUDE THE NORTH SWELL SOUTH AND THE, UH, EAST. UM, AND THAT IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE FINE GRADING TO ENSURE THAT THE THERE IS A POSITIVE SLOPE FROM THE FIELD TO THOSE SOILS TO ADDRESS THOSE. UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, VERDICT PROVIDED, UH, TO FROST, UH, THEY, UH, HAVE THEIR CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL THAT THEY ARE, UH, COST ESTIMATE THEY PUT IN HERE. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS. UH, THERE ARE, UH, COST PROPOSALS ABOUT $240,000, UM, BEING MINDFUL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS IT ATTRIBUTES TO OUR CURRENT PROJECT SCOPE, UH, AS WELL AS ENSURING THAT WE ARE EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS FOR THIS. UH, UH, FROST IS NOT AWARE OF THIS AS WELL. UH, WE, UH, WERE SEEKING A THIRD PARTY, UH, TO GET AN ADDITIONAL CODE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING, UH, BEING THE MOST, UH, USEFUL OF OUR FUNDS AND BEING MINDFUL OF WHAT THAT COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT IS, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THIS PROJECT WAS ALREADY OVER BUDGET AS IT WAS, UH, THAT WAS FROM THE BEGINNING, WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL HIT TO POTENTIALLY FUND BALANCE FOR A BOC. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE COSTS THAT THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF, UH, NEEDING TO SEEK A THIRD QUOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING A CITY AND STATE, UH, STANDARDS AS FAR AS PROCUREMENT GOES. UM, WE ARE WAITING ON THAT THIRD ONE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAD, THE QUOTE WE HAVE RECEIVED IS FROM A VENDOR THAT WE HAVE USED IN THE CITY FOR OTHER CITY PROJECTS. UH, AND IT IS QUOTED AS A FRACTION OF THE COST. AND SO, UH, JUST BEING MINDFUL OF THAT, I'M NOT GONNA INCLUDE THAT COST IN THERE, BUT I WILL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR Y'ALL TO ANSWER QUESTION OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF ME SPECIFICALLY ON THIS CURRENT AGENDA ITEM OR, UH, FOR US. I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK ON THIS AS WELL. SO I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS Y'ALL HAVE AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. SO DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ASK, UH, JASON QUESTIONS BEFORE I, UH, ASK FROST TO APPEAR? I JUST, YEAH, I THINK I DO. I WANNA ASK JASON, GO AHEAD. NO, YOU GO AHEAD. THIS IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING, BUT TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS ONE. UM, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A QUOTE BACK FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST MM-HMM . SO WHY WOULD WE APPROVE THIS? WHY WOULD WE EVEN DISCUSS THIS IF YOU, IF YOU CAN GET IT FOR A FRACTION AND IT'S THE SAME, YOU BELIEVE IN THE QUALITY OF THE, THE PERSON THEN, SO PART OF THIS WAS THAT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD FROM THE LAST MEETING TO HAVE FROST HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT. UH, 'CAUSE IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO, I THINK THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ASK FROST, BUT GO AHEAD. UM, AND AS WELL AS KNOWING WHERE THIS PROJECT LIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHAT A MOVE LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD. UH, I JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT IN WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM, AS WELL AS WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR FOR IT. SO TYPICALLY WOULD, UH, GO TO THEM FOR A FIRST OPPORTUNITY. UH, BUT AGAIN, BASED ON THE COST WISE, WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE WERE DOING OUR PART TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO, OKAY. MM-HMM . MY QUESTION IS MORE OF, I'M STILL MAKING SURE, GET THE RELATIONSHIPS IN, IN MY HEAD. SO BERT BURETT BURETT IS SUBMITTING THE CHANGE ORDER REQUEST BASED OFF THE INFORMATION FROM FROST, UH, IN THEORY SOMETIMES. SO TYPICALLY BURETT IS THE DESIGN TEAM. SO THEY DESIGN THE PROJECT AND THEY'RE MANAGING THE CONTRACT. AND SO BECAUSE THEY DESIGNED THE PROJECT, IF FROST HAS ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP FROM THE PROJECT, THEY POSED THOSE TWO VERDICTS, UH, AS WELL AS THE CITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND CLARITY. UH, AND SO DRAINAGE BEING ONE SPECIFICALLY IF THEY SEE AN ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE. AND [00:20:01] SO, UH, I'LL USE EXAMPLE IN HERE 'CAUSE IT'S, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT IS EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT THERE WAS A, UH, QUESTION ABOUT DRAINAGE AND HOW IT IS WOULD IMPACT THE DUGOUTS. AND BASED ON THE DESIGN PLANS, THE ORIGINAL PLAN MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO DRAIN THE WATER FROM THE DUGOUT SPACE AND AROUND THE BLEACHERS, UH, TO THE SWELLS APPROPRIATELY. SO THERE WAS A CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL, UH, PUT IN TO PUT A TRENCH DRAIN IN. AND SO THEY WOULD PUT THAT REQUEST DIVERTED AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE HERE. WE HAVE MADE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. AND SO THEY'RE PUTTING A CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL TOGETHER ON A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. UH, KEEP THAT AS MINE AS WELL. SAME THING IF WE GO THIS ROUTE OF ADDRESSING THE SOILS, UH, THE ENGINEERS DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS NECESSARY TO DO THAT TRENCH DRAIN. AND SO IT'S KIND OF A CONVERSATION FOR CLARITY BACK AND FORTH. UH, AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT DRAINAGE WAS AN ISSUE. UH, UH, STAFF, UH, CINDY LEADERSHIP AND STAFF BROUGHT IT UP AND SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE THINGS AS WELL SOFT. THEY RECOGNIZE THERE'S A DRAINAGE ISSUE AS WELL. UM, AND SO WE POSED THAT QUESTION AND IT'S ULTIMATELY TO BIRDED TO START TO LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF, UH, ENGINEER DRAWINGS, WHAT IS ACTUAL ON SITES, AND KIND OF COMPARE AND, UH, DEVIATE OR JUST DEVISE A PLAN ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY TAKE THAT, PRESENT THAT TO CROSS AND THEY USE WHAT VERTED IS GIVING TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS OF WHAT THAT COST IS GONNA BE TO DO THAT WORK. SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDING THOSE DETAILS TO US AND SAYING, HEY, THIS IS YOUR SOLUTION. NOW THEY CAN BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT COMES FROM VERDICT TO PROVIDE. UH, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAGE 46 AS WELL AS THE DOCUMENTATION ON 47, THAT IS ALL PROVIDED FROM S TO FROST TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, TELL US WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE, UH, 48, STARTING AT 48, THAT IS WHAT FROST IS GIVING TO US BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE FOR VERDICTS. ALRIGHT. A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. THERE IS, UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS ONE PROPOSAL IS A VERDICT PROPOSAL, ONE PROPOSAL IS A FROST PROPOSAL? NO. SO THE, IT'S NOT A PROPOSAL. BUR IS PROVIDING THE ENGINEERING PIECE. OKAY. SO THEY'RE SAYING HERE'S THE DRAINAGE PIECE THAT HERE'S THE CORRECTIONS, RIGHT? SO, UH, DRAINAGE NEEDS TO BE FIXED. HERE'S HOW TO FIX IT AND PROCESSING, OKAY, HERE'S YOUR COST TO FIX IT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE COST? IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION? WHAT CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO THEY PRESENT AND SAY, THIS IS HOW TO DO IT. AND THE FROST SAYS, GOT IT. THIS IS HOW WE CAN DO IT AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST YOU TO DO IT. RIGHT? YEAH. SO, SO BASICALLY, UM, UH, C NINE GRAND TOTAL, THAT'S WHAT FROST SAYS. IT'S GOING TO COST TO, TO REPAIR OR FIX OR WHATEVER. SO THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, THE BOTTOM NUMBER. YES. GOTCHA. YES. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING FROM ANOTHER COMPANY YOU HAVE A, SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY BID, BUT A SOMETHING COULD BE FRACTION OF WHAT THAT COST IS GONNA BE? YES. OKAY. YEP. I GOT YOU. AND SO FROST IS GONNA PRESENT TO US WHY IT'S GONNA COST THIS AMOUNT, BASICALLY? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT ASK THEM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST RELATED TO THIS SPECIFICALLY. OKAY. BUT ABOUT THE PROJECTS, UM, JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE, AGAIN, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T AT THE LAST MEETING, SO IT WAS A REQUEST TO BRING 'EM TO THIS ONE AND IT STEMMED AROUND THIS, RIGHT? OUR LAST ONE WAS A CHANGE ORDER TO RAISE THE FIELDS. UM, AND SO THEY PROVIDED THAT ONE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT AND THE PROJECT. AND SO THIS GIVES 'EM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE THEIR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT VERDICT PROVIDED, UH, A NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO, UH, JUST GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I COME BACK UP AND WE HAVE THOSE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ME TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. SO FOR TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY, THAT'S REALLY GOOD THAT FOR US HERE TO REPRESENT. SO THAT'S GREAT. SO IT'S, AND GOING BACK TO TRAVIS'S POINT, LIKE IN THEORY WE COULD, OR JOHN I APOLOGIZE, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROJECT WOULD FIRST ULTIMATELY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SEE TRUE WHAT WE CAN DO. AND THEN FOR US, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT OTHER AVENUES OF GOING, HOW ARE WE GONNA COME UP WITH THAT MONEY? WHAT CAN WE DO DIFFERENTLY? 'CAUSE I JUST, UH, WE REACH OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS TO SAY CAN PUBLIC WORKS? DO IT RIGHT? BUT ALSO KNOWING THAT IF I ASK PUBLIC WORKS TO DO THAT, IT'S A COST TO THE CITY THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT TAKES THEIR CREWS AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THINGS. SO WE'RE EXPLORING ALL AVENUES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO JUST BRINGING THOSE OPTIONS TO THE BOARD OF WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS. SO. ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET FROST UP HERE. WOULD YOU GENTLEMEN MIND APPROACHING, HOW'S IT GOING? HENRY HARRISON WITH FROST? YES SIR. THIS IS ROBERT GILIO. [00:25:01] UM, BEEN THE WORKING ON PROJECT QUITE A WHILE NOW. UM, WE EXPERIENCED LIKE TWO MONTHS OF RAIN AND THAT'S WHEN WE NOTICED THE, THE BIG DRAINAGE ISSUE. UH, THE BACK RIGHT CORNER, RIGHT FIELD HELD WATER, THE EXISTING SQUAD NOT DRAIN. SO WE REACHED OUT TO BUR AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A SOLUTION? THEY SAID, OKAY, RAISE IT. SO WE WENT BACK AND FORTH AND GOT PRICING FOR THAT. THAT OBVIOUSLY CAME IN AS JASON STATED, THEY AROUND 300,000, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BIG . SO WE WENT BACK AND DRAWING BOARD. UM, WE HAD THE SITE RESURVEY AND PROVIDED ALL THAT INFORMATION BACK TO VERDICT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, MAYBE THREE WEEKS, A MONTH LATER WE GOT A CHANGE PROPOSAL REQUEST, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PRICING IS, IS BASED OFF OF FROM OUR, OUR SUBCONTRACTOR TO LOWER THE INLET. THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE LARGE PROBLEM HERE IS THE INLET DOWNSTREAM TO THE RETENTION POND IS, IS TOO HIGH, HIGH TO, TO COME BACK ALL THE WAY. THE FOOTAGE BACK TO WHERE THE FIELDS ARE IS TOO HIGH. SO NO MATTER HOW BIG WE DEEP, HOW DEEP WE DIG THIS, IT'S NOT GONNA DRAIN 'CAUSE THE INLETS HIGH. SO THEY PROPOSE TO LOWER THE INLET AND THEN DIG THE SWELL OUT AND THEY LIGHT IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE FIELD. SO IT HAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A 4 0 1 DRAINAGE RATIO. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. UH, BUT I DO HAVE A, A FIRST QUESTION. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UH, RELATING TO THE LOWERING OF THE FIELD. OKAY. UM, IS THAT WHAT WAS GIVEN TO Y'ALL FROM VERDICT WAS TO, TO CUT OUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY INCHES OF, OF SOIL TO RAISE THE, RAISE THE NO, FROM THE INITIAL PROPOSAL. THE INITIAL PROPOSAL. LOWER THE FIELD. WHAT'S THAT? WE WERE NEVER GONNA LOWER THE FIELD. IT WAS LOWERING THE SOIL. OKAY. THE FIELD. BUT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO FREEDOM PARK, I SAW, I THOUGHT DOZER AND PUSHING SOIL AROUND IN THEIR INITIAL PLANS. YES, SIR. THAT WAS THEIR INITIAL PLANS, CORRECT? WE LOADED TO THEIR ELEVATION. NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE MORE MATERIAL COMING BACK IN FOR FINAL GRADING OF, OF ROCKS AND STUFF TO PREPARE FOR THE TURF. AN ADDITIONAL SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 18 INCHES, IF I'M CORRECT. UM, SO IT WILL RAISE A LITTLE BIT. YES. OKAY. SO WE WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ELEVATED TO IF YOU FOLLOW THE PRESENT. CORRECT. THE ORIGINAL IT, IT IS GONNA ELEVATE A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, SO EIGHT TO 10 INCHES YOU THINK? YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAS MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WHAT'S THE TRENCHING FOR IN THE FAR RIGHT FIELD? THE TRENCHING? THE TRENCHING YOU DID BACK THERE? THIS, WE WERE TRYING TO GET WATER OUT TO THE SWELL. WE WERE TRYING TO HELP BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD STAY WET FOR TWO WEEKS AND WE COULDN'T GET EQUIPMENT OUT THERE. SO WE TRIED TO GET THE WATER SOMEWHERE TO GO, BUT THE SWELL WOULD NOT DRAIN. SO WE, WE GOT INTO THE SWELL AND THEN IT JUST SAT THERE AND PULLED, STAYED PULLED ON THE FIELD. BUT DIDN'T THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE ROCK YOU BROUGHT IN FOR THE TRUCKS THAT WAS BLOCKING THE SWELL FROM THE DRAIN THAT WAS FURTHER UPSTREAM. THE UH, THE UH, THE RIGHT FIELD WAS THE BIG PROBLEM. AND THAT'S RIGHT. FIELD IS RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THAT YEAH, ALL THAT ROCK. YEAH, WE CUT THROUGH THAT SO IT WOULD DRAIN IT STILL. YOU CUT THROUGH, YOU CUT THROUGH. WE, WE THAT THAT ROCK, LIKE YOU MOVED THAT ROCK, CORRECT? UH, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT. UM, UNFORTUNATELY I SPENT A LOT OF TIME UP THERE. LIKE SAME FOR BASEBALL STUFF. YEAH, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT ROCK MOVE. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ROCK MOVE. SO LAST TIME I WAS ON SITE, I REMEMBER SEEING WHERE THEY CUT, WHERE IT DRANK TO SWELL BEFORE THE ROCK. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT HAPPENING. NOT, NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I'M JUST, MAYBE IT'S NOT BEEN MAINTAINED. LET'S GO FOR CROWN. I DON'T, I I JUST FEEL, UH, I THINK THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE USED A, A COVERT, A LITTLE PLASTIC COVERT IF, IF THAT WAS A KNOWN SWELL THERE, MAYBE JUST TO KIND OF MOVE THAT WATER ACROSS AT THAT TIME. UM, BUT I DON'T RECALL SEEING ANY ROCK MEAT MOVED OUT OF THE WAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS FROM THE SUBCONTRACTOR THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD THAT WAS SAID, HEY, WE MOVED THE ROCK. THAT WASN'T THE CASE. JUST THAT I NEVER SAW THE ROCK MOVE. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE. SO JUST SO WHERE, GO AHEAD. I, I DID JUST WANNA MENTION ON THAT ONE. UM, SO THE TRENCH YOU'RE REFERRING TO, RIGHT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IS QUITE EXPANSIVE. UH, I CAN SAY THAT THERE WAS ROCK MOVE, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT IT IS NEAR WHAT IT WAS LIKE THAT TRENCH, RIGHT? IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A NOTICEABLE ONE. UH, BUT IT ALSO WAS A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE. AND SO ANYTIME VEHICLES WOULD GO OVER THERE, YOU LOSE THAT. RIGHT? UM, AND SO I I, I DO RECALL BEING OUT THERE OUTSIDE AT SOME POINTS TO WHERE IT WAS, BUT MAYBE NOT TO THE EXTENT OF, ITS ACTUALLY STUFF I JUST DEALT BEFORE, [00:30:01] BEFORE ANY ACTION HAPPENED ON THIS FIELD, THAT AREA DRAINED. WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DRAINAGE OVER THERE. I MEAN, YOU COULD GET ON THOSE FIELDS TWO DAYS AFTER THE RAIN AND HAVE A PRACTICE AND THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM. MOVE ALL THE DIRT, THEN SUDDENLY WE, WE SAW AN ISSUE AND THEN IT MADE IT WORSE WHEN YOU TRENCHED IN THE FAR RIGHT FIELD AND IT JUST SAT THERE AND THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT TO PUMP IT OR GET IT OUT OF THERE TO CLEAR IT. I MEAN, AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'D PROBABLY SAY IS, WELL I COULDN'T PUMP IT ANYWHERE 'CAUSE IT COULDN'T DRAIN ANYWHERE. BUT I MEAN THERE WERE, WE HAVE ANOTHER PARK PROJECT GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND THEY KEPT PUMPING THE WHOLE TIME AND THEY'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE TO FINISH. UH, IT IS JUST, UH, I GET ASKED THIS QUESTION ALL THE TIME OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FIELD. WHY ARE, DID Y'ALL STOP? DID YOU RUN OUTTA MONEY? WHAT HAPPENED? AND I HAVE TO TELL 'EM, IT'S KIND OF EMBARRASSING THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIX DRAINAGE ISSUES. I I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO FOR FURTHER FROM HERE. UM, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TIED UP IN A PROJECT AND WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION. SO LET ME ASK YOU, I KNOW, HAVE Y'ALL DONE MUCH WORK WITH VERDICT BEFORE? YOU ASKED ME OR? YES. FROST. YEAH. OKAY. JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF THIS IS A BAD METAPHOR FOR WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, BUT UM, TIME HAS PASSED. WE'VE LOST A LOT OF TIME ON THIS PROJECT. I MEAN WE, WE WERE HOPING, I MEAN, I THINK THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL HAD US, Y'ALL COMPLETING IT IN THE END OF SUMMER, JUNE, JULY, AND Y'ALL CAME OUT LIKE GANGBUSTERS. UH, I MEAN CREDIT TO Y'ALL. I, I MEAN I WAS EXCITED WHEN Y'ALL FIRST GOT ON THE JOB AND IT WAS REALLY FANCY AND I KNOW THE WEATHER CAME AN ISSUE AND THE FLOODING BECAME APPARENT AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE WEATHER. I'M NOT, I GET THAT. BUT THEN SOMETHING BROKE DOWN. THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN Y'ALL AND BIRD AND THEN THE CITY. 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING TO THIS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THESE, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S THEIR ENGINEERING REPORT OR WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I'M JUST EXPRESSING SOME FRUSTRATION FOR THE DELAY. UM, AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN ARGUE AND BICKER BACK AND FORTH AND IT DOESN'T REALLY DO AS MUCH GOOD. WE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD. UH, THIS IS MY OPINION, Y'ALL. I MEAN WHATEVER Y'ALL CAN ARGUE WHATEVER. UM, AND I WANNA SEE, WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW FAST DO YOU THINK THIS PROJECT CAN BE BUILT OUT AS IS IF YOU TOOK THE DESIGN AS IT IS CONCURRENTLY PRESENTED, UH, BYE BIRD IT AND Y'ALL FINISHED THE PROJECT. NOW OF COURSE WE'VE COME OFF OF TWO MONTHS OF NO RAIN AND NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO MOVE INTO A WEEK OF SIX INCHES. SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE GOLDEN OPPORTUNITIES MISSED, UH, WHEN WE TALKED, THAT'S WHEN I WAS SAYING THE COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN. UM, BECAUSE, AND, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T ONLY MOVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S COMMUNICATION AND YOU KNOW, YOUR DESIGNER IS TRYING TO SAY, CONSIDER DOING THIS AND, AND WHAT CHANGES? AND WE ONLY MEET SO OFTEN AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME BUREAU BUREAUCRACY AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN, BUT NO, WE GOTTA ASSEMBLE THIS GROUP. AND I GET IT, THERE'S BUREAUCRACY. UM, BUT I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTION TAKES TONIGHT, TOMORROW WE MAY BE INUNDATED WITH SIX INCHES OF RAIN OR AT LEAST OVER THIS NEXT WEEKEND. UM, IT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S PROJECTING. SO I NOWHERE TO PUMP IT UP THERE. AND THEN YEAH, WE'RE BACK, BACK TO SQUARE ONE, YOU KNOW. SO, UM, IF WE MOVE FORWARD AS DESIGN, WHEN CAN YOU GET STARTED AND NOW MADE ME THINK ABOUT THIS. ARE WE PREPARED TO TAKE STEPS TO, AS JOHN TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUMP WATER OR GET WATER OFF THERE SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT? UM, I CAN AGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH MEREDITH. UH, WE HAVE KEPT CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND JASON AS WELL. AND LIKE YOU STATED, WE'RE WE'RE DICTATED BY THEIR RESPONSES AND APPROVALS FROM, FROM YOU GUYS. I CAN'T JUST GO, HEY, I'M SPENDING YOUR MONEY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. UM, AS FAR AS MOBILIZATION, I CAN MOBILIZE WITHIN PROBABLY TWO WEEKS OF APPROVAL AND GET STARTED AND I WOULD PROJECT THAT I CAN FINISH THE PROJECT IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS. SO FROM TWO WEEKS FROM BEGINNING TO THREE WEEKS. WE'RE TALKING MID-JANUARY, WHAT I'M THINKING MID-JANUARY? YEAH. THREE MONTHS. THREE MONTHS. OH, MONTHS AFTER THREE MONTHS. I'M SORRY, [00:35:01] I THOUGHT YOU HAD THREE WEEKS. I THOUGHT LIKE THAT'S CRAZY. STILL SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TURF AND ROCK TO COME IN AND CONCRETE DUGOUTS. MAN, THIS IS, THAT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR BECAUSE THAT'S NOT JUST WET SEASON, BUT, UM, I THINK Y'ALL ARE GONNA, WELL LEMME FOLLOW UP WITH MY QUESTION THEN. DUE TO JANUARY, ASSUMING THREE MONTHS, ASSUMING IT IS A WET SEASON, AND AGAIN, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE BEYOND, WAY BEYOND ANY OF OUR CONTROL, WHAT THE WEATHER DOES, ARE YOU PREPARED TO TAKE STEPS TO CONTINUE WORKING IF THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, RAIN? YES. UM, THE BIG PART IS GETTING THE SWELLS DONE BECAUSE WE, WE PUMPED IT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND IT WOULD FILL RIGHT BACK UP BECAUSE THE INLET TO THE DETENTION PONDS BEYOND THAT WOULDN'T DRAIN ASS WELL. SO LET ME ASK YOU, I, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IF YOU ELEVATED TO THE, UH, DESIGN THAT BURETT HAS PUT IN PLACE AND YOU SAID IT, IT NEEDS TO GO UP ANOTHER EIGHT, POSSIBLY 10 INCHES, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DEPENDS ON SLOPING OR WHATEVER GRADING, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL CALL IT. UM, IS, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IF THAT GOT DONE FIRST, THAT WOULD HELP WITH SOME OF THE DRAINAGE AT LEAST OFF OF THE FIELD? IT IS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE. GUARANTEED. NO, IT'S THE, THE ELEVATION. THE ELEVATION THAT WE'RE AT AND THE, UH, SWELL IS AT RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY. HOWEVER, IF YOU GO WITH US OR YOU GO WITH THE OTHER COMPANY, OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'RE PRACTICING DO MAKE SENSE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. HOWEVER, IF WE GET THAT SWELL ELEVATION LOWER THAN THE FIELD, THEN IT WILL DRAIN. SO DID THE OKAY IT, NO, SORRY. OH, UH, DID THE, DID WHEN Y'ALL RIGHT OR SCRAPE THE FIELD INITIALLY, IS THAT WHAT CAUSED THE, I MEAN, I GUESS SCRAPING IT CAUSED THE SWELL TO BECOME HIGHER THAN THE FIELD ITSELF, CORRECT? IT SO WHAT WAS THE INTENT IN SCRAPING THE FIELD? I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL LOOK AT YOUR DESIGN, HOW THE DESIGN PLAN LOOKS. I MEAN, I GUESS IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, BUT IF Y'ALL WERE BUILDING IN THE SWELL, WHY WOULD YOU HAVE SCRAPED SO LOW? UH, WOULDN'T YOU HAVE ALREADY NOTE NOTED OR LOOK NOTICED THAT THE SWELL WAS LOOKING HIGHER FROM THE SCRAPING THAT Y'ALL WERE DOING, TAKING OFF THAT DIRT? I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MAKING ANY SENSE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT CORRECTLY. ABSOLUTELY. AND AND WE MAY VERY WELL AT THAT, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE, SIX MONTHS AGO, HOWEVER WE HAD ELEVATION WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AT. I I GET THAT. I GET THAT PART. I AM GIVEN SOMETHING TO DO. I'M GONNA DO IT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. I GOTTA REPLACE A WHOLE WALL OF SHEET ROCK. I'M GONNA DO IT. HEY, I'M JUST GOING TO POINT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IN THIS REMODEL. YOU GOT BLACK MOLD ON THE CEILING. THAT'S NOT IN MY JOB SCOPE, BUT I'M JUST GONNA KEEP DOING THIS. APPARENTLY YOU GOT WATER GOING ON. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF BIRD CITY. IT WAS. HE SAID IT WAS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO IF, IF IT WAS, THEY DISCUSSED CHANGING ELEVATIONS AND THAT'S WHEN WE RAN INTO ALL THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW TO CORRECT THIS AND HOW THEY WANTED TO GO ABOUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. OKAY. I'M SORRY. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP PRIOR TO BREAKING GROUND. 'CAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO GO LOW ON THE GROUND THEN. WELL, THAT, THAT KIND OF GOES BACK AND WE WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING KIND OF CAUSE AND EFFECT, YOU KNOW, HERE IS, IT'S LIKE, WHAT WAS IT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH? I SAID WE AS A CITY, WE PAID SOMEBODY TO DO A ACTUAL SURVEY OF ALL THIS AND BASED OFF OF THEIR INFORMATION CAME UP WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK WHICH WE GAVE TO BUR AND THEN BUR IS JUST PASSING IT DOWN TO, TO FROST. SO I DON'T KNOW IF BUR BIRD GOT THE, THE INFORMATION FROM THE SURVEY INFORMATION THAT WE GAVE THEM, BUT THEY DIDN'T NOTICE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT, DID WE? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FROST STARTED GOING IN THERE AND DOING WHAT BERTA TOLD 'EM TO DO AND THEN IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM. DID WE, DID WE HAVE A, A SURVEY? I KNOW WE'VE MENTIONED THE SURVEY SITUATION. YEAH. SO WE'VE EVALUATED THAT AND SO KIND OF TO THAT POINT AS WELL, UM, AS, UH, HENRY HAS MENTIONED LIKE WE'RE NOT AT ELEVATION RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? LIKE WE RECOGNIZE THERE, THERE IS SOME KIND OF DRAINAGE CONCERN. UH, WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN ELEVATION AND WE HAVE HAD A WET SEASON WHICH BROUGHT UP MORE CONCERNS OF WE MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH DRAINAGE, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, HE WAS CORRECT IN SAYING LIKE IT WAS BROUGHT TO BIRD'S ATTENTION AND SOME OF THE PROPOSALS THAT CAME THROUGH. UH, SO AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE TRENCH STRAIN, RIGHT TRENT, THE [00:40:01] PROPOSAL THAT, OR THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK FOR THAT PROBABLY WASN'T IDEAL BASED ON WHAT WE WERE SEEING IN THE FIELD AND DOING THAT WORK. SO THEY CAME ACROSS, CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, NEED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND SO WE DID AND COST CAME UP ON THAT AND HAD QUESTIONS OF LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A COST THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING FOR THE PROJECT. WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE? AND SO OUR BIRD WOULD PUT TOGETHER AND SAY, WELL YOU COULD RAISE THE INFIELD, BUT HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA IMPACT. WELL THEN THEY PUT ANOTHER ONE TOGETHER AND THEY RAISED THE OUTFIELD. AND SO THERE WAS MULTIPLE CHANGE PROPOSALS GOING BACK AND FORTH TO WHERE WE GOT TO A POINT THAT SAID FROM OUR LAST MEETING, RIGHT? AND TO A POINT OF SAYING WE CANNOT KEEP PUTTING TOGETHER MULTIPLE CHANGE PROPOSALS AND DOING THIS PROJECT THIS WAY. WE HAVE TO FIND ONE SOLUTION FOR, AND THAT WAS WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE LAST ONE. AND THE BIRD, THE CURVE BALL CAME FROM BIRD AND SAID, WELL, JUST KIDDING, WE MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER DRAFT. UM, AND I'LL WAIT AND SAY TO TO, UH, HENRY'S POINT WE MET ON JULY 28TH AND UH, THE CHANGE IN ELEVATIONS THAT WERE NEEDED THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR PACKET TOOK ABOUT A MONTH TO GET TO FROST. OKAY. SO, OKAY, I AM TRYING TO, I FORESEE ANOTHER PROBLEM AND IT'S MORE BUREAUCRACY. I GET THAT. UM, IT'S ALSO TRANSPARENCY. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM YOU, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT THERE, WE BELIEVE THERE HAS TO BE BY LAW ANOTHER PROPOSAL THAT WE SUSPECT THAT PROPOSAL WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, AS HENRY SAID IT WOULD BE. I'M NOT SAYING FOR ME IT WOULD BE POLITICAL MALPRACTICE SLASH WASTEFUL SPENDING FOR US NOT TO CONSIDER A, AT LEAST GET A PROPOSAL IN ON WHAT THAT OTHER ONE IS. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT RUNS INTO IS HE JUST TOLD US IT TAKES HIM TWO WEEKS TO GET HIS, HIS UNIT MOBILIZED, THREE MONTHS TO BUILD OUT. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO VOTE ON THAT, WE'RE PUSHING INTO FEBRUARY WHEN THE BASEBALL SEASON STARTS. AT BEST WE ARE, IF WE PUSH IT, IT MAY EVEN BE MARCH OR APRIL DEPENDING ON WEATHER. AND AGAIN, I THAT'S BEYOND THINGS THAT ARE BEYOND THEIR CONTROL. BUT WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE, WE GOTTA TAKE ACTION. WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO MEET AND PIECEMEAL THIS EVERY TWO TO FOUR WEEKS OR SIX WEEKS. AND I'M, I KNOW I'M KIND OF RAMBLING STREAM OF CONSCIOUS HERE, BUT MAN, I FEEL LIKE WE GOTTA MOVE. I MEAN IT'S GOTTA HAPPENED. AND SO HE'S SAYING HE NEEDS TWO WEEKS. HOW LONG AND HE, I GUESS ARE YOU HENRY, ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU WON'T MOBILIZE UNTIL THERE'S A SWELL DUG? THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASK. COULD YOU START NOW ON ON WHAT? ON THE FIELD OR ON THE SWELL? ON THE FIELD. ON THE FIELD. I, I CAN MOBILIZE WITHIN TWO WEEKS. YES SIR. I THINK WE GOT MAYBE LESS. I'M JUST SAYING BY THE TIME I GET MY CONTRACTOR'S NOTICE TO GET THEM THE EQUIPMENT BACK OUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK WE GOTTA MOVE. THAT'S A QUESTION. OKAY. SO YOU SAID THREE MONTHS. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS IT THREE MONTHS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TOP PRIORITY OR IS IT THREE MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE THREE MONTHS TO REALLY COMPLETE IT JUST WITH TIME AND, AND HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMING BACK EVERY END OF THE YEAR. I'M BEING A LITTLE GENEROUS. I'M GONNA TRY TO GET DONE BEFORE THREE MONTHS OBVIOUSLY, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE A GRAND OPENING OR SOMETHING AND HAVE TO MOVE TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. 'CAUSE I GAVE YOU TWO SHORT OF TIME. OKAY. I, I WILL BE HONEST THAT I KNOW THROUGH LITTLE LEAGUE THAT THERE IS ALWAYS AN OPENING CEREMONY AND IT SURE WOULD BE NICE TO HOST IT THIS YEAR ON THE NEW FIELD. ABSOLUTELY. AND UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S USUALLY, UH, EARLY MARCH. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING CITY FUNDS AND MONEY AND IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR IT, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS WANNA SEE THEIR MONEY'S BEING USED AND HOPEFULLY WISELY. I TELL YOU, I CAN TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ASKING ALL THE PROBABLY EVERYONE HERE, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT FIELD? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT FIELD EVERY PROBABLY LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK. I'M LIKE, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN MOBILIZE YOU THINK IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS JUST ON THE FIELD. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SWELL. OKAY. THAT WAS OH, THAT'S RIGHT. I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND, AND I, AND THIS ISN'T PICKING ON YOU GUYS. OH NO, I TOLD BERT AS WELL. UM, I, I'M A CONTRACTOR OUT IN THE CHEMICAL PLANTS, I'D LIKE TO MOBILIZE A TRAILER WHERE WE CAN CHECK IN KIND OF HOW THERE IS ONE OVER THERE WHERE WE KNOW AT LEAST [00:45:01] IF WORK'S GETTING DONE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A POINT OF CONTACT THERE. I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE ONE ON A PHONE CALL, MAYBE IN BEAUMONT, BUT AT LEAST IF UM, JASON NEEDS ANYTHING ASIDE FROM A PHONE CALL, AT LEAST I KNOW WHERE TO FIND HIM. IF ANY QUESTIONS ARISE, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT PROBABLY HURT THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE HERE. WE KIND OF LEFT IT IN THE HANDS OF, HEY, I I HOPE IT'S GETTING DONE. I THINK IT'S GETTING DONE, DIRT'S BEING MOVED, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE WAS NO, UM, THAT'S JUST A REQUEST FROM ME. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE, WE HAD FULL, FULL-TIME SUPERVISION THERE UP UNTIL WHEN WE PULL OFF A MONTH AND A HALF AGO. MM-HMM . BECAUSE, NOT BECAUSE WE WERE SITTING WAIT, I'M LIKE, I'M NOT PAYING ANY SUPERVISION FOR SOMEBODY TO SIT THERE AND DO NOTHING WHEN IT TOOK A MONTH TO EVEN BE A CHANGE, CHANGE PROPOSAL REQUEST. S'S NOT EVEN BEING MAINTAINED THOUGH. I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S MY THING. THAT'S REALLY TALL OFFENSES HAVE FALLEN DOWN. WAS IT YOU THERE THAT WAS THERE? I I'M NOT PICKING ON ANYONE. WAS IT YOU THAT WAS THERE? NO, NOT PERSONALLY. NO. IT WAS ONE OF OUR SUPERINTENDENTS. MJ MAN, I WOULD SAY MJ SEND ME A PICTURE EVERY MORNING. 'CAUSE I'LL BE HON I MEAN WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE. YEAH, NO, WE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. AND, AND IT'S MORE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. I'M NOT, I'M NOT MJ IF YOU'RE WATCHING, I GOT NOTHING AGAINST YOU MAN, BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE, HEY, UM, I GOTTA DO IT WITH MY PEOPLE. HEY, LET ME MAKE SURE YOU'RE THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. I I HAVE A CAMERA ON SIDE. OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THOSE ARE THE LITTLE THINGS THAT KIND OF PLAY A FACTOR INTO AND MEANTIME WE TALKING ABOUT LAST TIME. AND I WOULD AGREE SOME OF THAT, I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION THAT COMES. 'CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I'VE GONE ON SITE AND NJ HAS BEEN THERE. UM, BUT IT'S HARDER BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A PLACE TO GO TO. SO NJ SPENDS A LOT OF TIME WITH HIS VEHICLE AND SO IF THERE'S A VEHICLE THERE, YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS ATTRIBUTE IT TO. UH, I CAN TELL YOU SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MJ HAS BEEN OUT THERE THE TIMES THAT I'VE GONE OUT THERE AND THERE'S GUYS ON SITE NOW THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER DAYS WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S WEATHER THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THERE AND WE'LL GET THE NOTICE AND SAY MJ WAS GREAT AT TAKING PICTURES AND SAYING WE GOT RAIN, HERE'S THE FIELD WE CAN'T WORK, RIGHT? YEAH. AND SO THERE WAS SOME OF THAT, BUT IT IS HARD TO DELINEATE TO SAY, HEY, WHICH VEHICLE IS IT? BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A PARK, WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE. IT'S HARDER WITH THE VEHICLE. IT'S EASIER WHEN THERE'S AN ACTUAL OFFICE TRAILER THERE. YEAH, NO, ABSOLUTELY. IF AN OFFICE TRAILER THERE, I KNOCK ON THE DOOR. NO ONE ANSWERS. THERE'S NOT A VEHICLE. I KNOW NO ONE'S HERE. SO FACILITATE. SO ARE, ARE YOU THE PRO, ARE YOU A PROJECT MANAGER OR WHAT? YES MA'AM. VICE PRESIDENT. SO, UM, AND WHAT ARE YOU, PROJECT MANAGER. SO WHERE ARE BOTH OF YOU DURING THE TIME THAT ALL THE WORK IS BEING DONE OUT THERE? WE'RE IN OUR OFFICE, IN HOUSTON OFFICE. CLEARLY. SO WHO, HOW OFTEN WERE YOU COMING OUT HERE TO VIEW THE SITE? UH, PROBABLY ONCE EVERY COUPLE WEEKS. ONCE EVERY COUPLE WEEKS WE'RE SPENDING $2 MILLION, 2 MILLION PLUS OUR PROJECT. AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING ONLY ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS. WELL WE HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT ON SITE FULL TIME. BUT YOU'RE THE PROJECT MANAGER. YOU ARE OVER THAT SUPERINTENDENT, ISN'T IT STILL YOUR JOB TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE CHECKING THAT SITE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHETHER YOU HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT OUT THERE. IS THAT NOT WHAT YOUR, YOUR TITLE STANDS FOR? MAYBE BY, BY YOUR DEFINITION, BUT BY THE WAY WE RUN THINGS. NO, I DON'T VISIT EVERY JOB SITE. SO HOW FAMILIAR ARE YOU WITH BASEBALL FIELDS? EXCUSE ME? HOW FAMILIAR ARE YOU WITH BUILDING OUT BASEBALL FIELDS? BUILDING OUT BASEBALL FIELDS OR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW? THE PROJECTS. DOING PROJECTS, DOING CIVIL WORK. MM-HMM . I'M RATHER FAMILIAR WITH THAT. QUITE A BACKGROUND THERE. I I JUST THINK I, I BELIEVE THIS WAS A DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH BIRD IT THAT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S OPINION, BUT I THINK AS A PROJECT MANAGER, BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING OUT FOR IT, A PROJECT MANAGER SHOULD BE THERE MORE THAN ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS. I, I CAN RESPECT YOUR OPINION. I HAVE, I HAVE EYE COORDINATION. I TALK TO MY GUY EVERY DAY, A CAMERA ON OUTSIDE. I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND PROBABLY SO, BUT I STILL THINK I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON SITE. SO I MEAN I I STILL THINK THAT MIGHT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT HELP WAYLAY SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE, WE'RE NOW SEEING. WE COULD COORDINATE MORE MANAGEMENT FOR THIS BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. UM, WE DO HAVE NINE PROJECTS GOING ON WITHIN OUR COMPANY RANGING FROM IOWA, UTAH, UM, AND IT'S U IT IN TEXAS, SO IT'S U2 OVER NINE PROJECTS. WELL WE HAVE OUR ONSITE, WE'RE TELLING YOU THE STRUCTURE OF OUR COMPANY AND I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THINK WE COULD MAYBE COORDINATE SOMETHING WITH [00:50:01] MANAGEMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT. IT IS IN TOWN FOR US. UM, BUT WE HAVE OUR SUPERINTENDENTS THAT REPRESENT OUR COMPANY ON JOB SITES. IT'S JUST THE WAY OUR COMPANY WORKS. WE HAVE AN OFFICE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CLERICAL WORK AND NINE DIFFERENT CLIENTS AND KIND OF PAY ATTENTION TO EACH ONE AND PUT OUR FOCUS ON AND THAT'S WHY OUR SUPERINTENDENTS ARE THERE. SO WE HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTING THE COMPANY. WELL I JUST DON'T, EVERY DAY I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A PROJECT, WE'VE HAD A PROJECT THAT'S HAD THIS MANY, UM, CHANGE ORDERS IN IT AND IT'S COST US MORE MONEY. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I MEAN IF I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I'M UP TO CHANGE ORDER EIGHT AND WHAT TWO THROUGH SEVEN HAVE BEEN JUST KIND OF PUT ON THE BACK BURNER DUE TO DESIGN? NOT, NOT DUE TO ME, NOT DUE TO US NOT DOING OUR JOB. IT'S DUE TO THE ARCHITECT WHO DESIGN EVERYTHING. I'M BUILDING IT PART OF THEIR DESIGN, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK, UH, I GUESS WHAT EVERYBODY'S ALLUDING TO, I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH MULTIFACTORIAL. I, I THINK ONE THING IS THAT, UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE LIKE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE LIKE SOMEWHERE IN THE TOP PRIORITY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE. SO I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT MAYBE THE BREAKDOWN JUST COMMUNICATION WITH YOU INVERTED. SO I THINK BUT THE THING, BUT IF WE GO AHEAD AND USE YOU GUYS, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE REALLY UH, UH, FOSTERED IS THE RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE WITH BIRDED SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION. I THINK THAT'S ONE THING. I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH YOU GUYS, BECAUSE TOM IS DEFINITELY AS OF ESSENCE, UH, THE ESSENCE. SO WE HAVE TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THERE BEFORE JANUARY. WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO SET A DATE IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WHENEVER BILL WILL DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO FACTOR IN SOME, SOME CUSHIONS, SOME SOFT TIME. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY WISE TO DO. BUT I GUESS LIKE COULD SAY, JUST MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DECIDE TO USE YOU GUYS, LIKE HEY WE GOT ANGLETON, IT'S BEEN A WHILE, THEY NEED THIS FEEL DONE. LIKE THEY'RE OUR PRIORITY ONE, BOOM, WE'RE RIGHT THERE. AND THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE I SAID, MAKE SURE WE FOSTER A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU GUYS AND ICK. SO THAT WAY THE SAME THING HAPPENED EARLIER WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION. 'CAUSE I'M SURE WAITING ON PLANS OR SOMETHING LIKE DIFFERENT CHANGE ORDERS AND ALL THIS STUFF, THAT COULD BE VERY FRUSTRATING FOR YOU GUYS. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO THE SUB WAS SAME DAY BUT THEN WAIT FUNDS FOR THEM. YEAH, I JUST HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT. YEAH, WE REPLIED THE SAME DAY AND, AND JASON'S AWARE OF THIS QUOTATION THAT HE'S, YOU KNOW, ASKED THAT WE COPY HIM EVERY, COPY HIM ON EVERY CORRESPONDENCE WITH HIM SO HE CAN LEAN ON THEM FROM HIS SIDE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, OR Y'ALL'S CLIENT, I'M, I'M JUST, HEY, HELP PLEASE AND I'M NOT PAYING. SO GOT, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION? I I THINK THE ACTION IS TO THEN TO MOBILIZE, GET MOVING ON THE FIELD. WE NEED TO GET THAT OTHER QUOTE IN IMMEDIATELY. THIS BOARD NEEDS TO MEET AGAIN. TAKE ACTION ON THAT SO WE CAN KEEP THIS IN PARALLEL. UM, SO BASED ON THE CURRENT QUOTE I HAVE, UH, AS LONG AS WE GET THAT SEC, THAT THIRD QUOTE, UH, IT TECHNICALLY WOULD NOT NEED TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD BECAUSE OF THE THRESHOLD THAT IT'S AT. AND SO WE COULD ACT ON THAT LIKE AS ADMINISTRATION WISE, APP WISE, WE COULD ACT ON THAT WITHOUT, BECAUSE IT FALLS WITHIN THE THRESHOLD OF MONTH THAT IS WITHIN REGULATION. AS LONG AS WE GET THE, UH, THREE PIECES TO IT. UM, UH, I DIDN'T GIVE FACTOR DO HAVE THE OTHER COMPANY, SO IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND ON THAT ONE. UM, AND SO WE EVEN AS YOU WERE SAYING THAT BASED ON THE CURRENT ONE I HAVE, UH, THAT COMPANY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE POTENTIALLY SOONER THAN FROST WOULD BE ON SITE TO START ADDRESSING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE IF THAT WAS THE DIRECTION. SO, SO, SO JASON, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO CONVENE AGAIN BEFORE A DECISION'S BEEN MADE, YEAH IT REALLY WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD THAT INFORMATION AS A BOARD SO WE COULD REALLY SEE THE NUMBERS SO WE COULD BE AT EASE WITH DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE. AND I, I CAN DEFINITELY, UH, PROVIDE THAT TO THE BOARD ONCE WE GET THAT LAST ONE IN AND THE DIRECTION WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON. UH, AND I WILL MENTION WE DO HAVE A MEETING IN OCTOBER, SO THAT'S OCTOBER IS OUR NORMAL MEETING MONTH. WHAT, WHAT DATE IS THAT? HOPEFULLY NOT THE 28TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 19TH. OKAY, GOOD. 19TH. YEAH. MUST BEEN THAT WHOLE WEEK UP HERE. YES, IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE HAVE A GREAT TIME. UM, BUT SO WE DO HAVE THAT MEETING AS WELL SO WE CAN PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL UPDATE AT THAT TIME. BUT AGAIN, BASED ON THE, THE CURRENT THRESHOLD AMOUNTS OF THE OTHER, UH, PROPOSAL THAT FALLS WITHIN OUR ABILITY FOR STAFF TO MAKE THAT DETERMIN OR TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, UH, UH, EXPENDITURE. SO, OKAY. HYPOTHETICALLY, UM, I GUESS, UH, WHATEVER THEY CALL ME, I'M RUNNING THIS SO I CAN'T MAKE ANY MOTION. BUT HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, [00:55:01] UM, IF THE, IF A MOTION WERE ON THE TABLE TO PROCEED AND TO HAVE FROST GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE FIELD, NOT THE SWELL, BUT THE FIELD AND THEN COULD HYPOTHETICALLY, UH, TO HELP EASE, MAYBE DR. JACKSON'S MIND, COULD THERE BE LIKE, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL OR NOT COUNCIL, THIS COMMISSION WOULD SUPPORT ANY SPENDING OF A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT UNDER THAT AMOUNT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE CREATE A HYPOTHE SENSE HYPOTHETICAL? UM, AND HYPOTHETICALLY, UH, YES. AND IF YOU WANTED TO GO BY THE CURRENT STATE STANDARD, UH, THAT WE JUST HAVE TO, UH, RECEIVE, UH, THREE, UH, QUOTES FOR PROJECTS BETWEEN 3000 AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE THRESHOLD THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA CLARIFY ONE THING? YES. ACT'S GROUP COULD HELP YOU. AND IT'S NOT A COST TO THE CITY THAT WE'RE NOT ALREADY INCURRING. I'M JUST YES. WOULD IT TAKE AWAY FROM ANOTHER PROJECT THAT THEY NEED TO BE WORKING ON? YES. YES. BUT IT RIGHT HAND, LEFT HAND. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST. YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLARIFIED. YES, IT WOULD JUST, UH, KNOWING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE TO DO AND THE WORK THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING INTO, UH, HELP GET THE KBO SITUATED FOR US AND SOME OF THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UH, AS WELL AS THEY COULD DO IT. BUT I KNOW THAT THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HECTOR IS THEY DON'T HAVE SOME OF THESE VERY SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THIS TYPE OF RATING. SPEAKING OF EQUIPMENT, IS THE SKIDSTEER PORTER? UH, NO. . THAT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT? THAT IS MY DEPARTMENT, YES. IT'S NOT HIS SKID STEER, BUT, UH, SUSIE WENT ON VACATION AS SOON AS THAT BUDGET WAS APPROVED. OKAY. UM, SO THAT IS AN OCTOBER ONE PRIORITY. UM, BUT YEAH, SO THEY COULD, UH, AND WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, BUT BEING MINDFUL THAT, UH, THE QUOTE THAT I HAVE IS VERY FAVORABLE, THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE FAIR IN MY OPINION AND I WOULD BELIEVE IN HECTOR'S OPINION 'CAUSE HE'S SEEN IT AS WELL. IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS JUST FOR HAVE THIS CONTRACTOR DO IT. IT IS VERY FAVORABLE FOR US. HECTOR, COULD YOU PROVIDE LIKE SOME, A TIMEFRAME, NOT ON THIS, ON, ON YOUR SIDE TO DO IT, BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE THE CONTRACTOR OR THE CITY TO DO THOSE SWELLS? A COUPLE WEEKS. OKAY. YEAH. AT THE MOST, WITH THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT. WITH THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT. RIGHT EQUIPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH RAIN FALLS NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. RIGHT. WELL GOOD LUCK ON THAT. AND GARY, IF WE HAVE RAIN, THAT'S GONNA COMING, COMING AS WELL. UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS WELL FROM THE CONTRACTOR IS THAT IT WOULD BE, THEY COULD DO IT IN A COUPLE WEEKS. PRETTY EASY. THEY COULD DO IT IN A COUPLE LITTLE WEEKS AS WELL. MM-HMM . SO TWO TO THREE WEEKS. SO WE RUN 'EM TOGETHER. YEAH, I SAID, AND UH, BASED ON MY PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, WE COULD BE ON SITE WITHIN A WEEK AND WITH FROST THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. Y'ALL WOULD BE WORKING SIDE BY, NOT REALLY SIDE BY SIDE. BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE WITH YOU GUYS DOING THE FIELD AND THEN FINISHING UP SWELLS. NO, AS LONG AS WE HAD ACCESS THOUGH. OKAY. SO HE WOULD JUST LEAVE US A LITTLE ACCESS POINT. MAYBE PARTS DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING OVER HERE. LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT EQUIPMENT OR, OR EVEN SOME, AN INDUSTRIAL MAT THERE, THERE'S MATT RENTAL COMPANIES THAT, THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER IDEA THAN LAYING DOWN ALL THAT, ALL THAT ROCK BE, BECAUSE I THINK ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED WANNA JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE THIS DONE. YEAH, WE, WE WANT TO COMPLETE IT SO WE CAN USE IT. YOU GUYS, I SURE WANNA GO AHEAD AND BE ABLE TO MANEUVER AND MOVE YOUR MANPOWER TO OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL. SO I THINK IT'S WHEN, WHEN SITUATION, IF WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST GET THINGS TAKEN UP FROM EVERY SEC, LIKE HECTOR MENTIONED ABOUT DOING THAT IN A FEW WEEKS, ABOUT DOING THAT IN A FEW WEEKS OR SO AND JUST, YES. AND I'LL SAY THAT LIKE FROST ABSOLUTELY. TEAM WANTS THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH, THAT IS, UH, LIKE HE MENTIONED OR MENTIONED, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE SOME OF THIS, UH, DELAY IS COMING FROM. UH, SO I DO WANNA REFERENCE THAT, THAT THIS, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A PROCESS THING SPECIFICALLY. UH, WE HAVE HAD THAT TO WHERE WE'VE HAD TO PUSH A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEY ABSOLUTELY WANT THE PROJECT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE LONGER OUR PROJECT TAKES, THEY'LL, THEY CAN'T GO BID ANOTHER PROJECT AND DO OTHER WORK. SO FOR THEM, BUSINESSWISE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. THEY GET THIS PROJECT DONE. THEY JUST WANT THE SAME THING WHERE THE DIRECTION OF WE'RE TRYING TO GET PAID THEN BEFORE AND JUST DO [01:00:01] IT. ALRIGHT, SO THIS SOMETHING I HAVEN'T DONE. ONE, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE PARKS DIRECTOR TO FOLLOW THE TEXAS, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OF PURCHASING, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND GET, OBTAIN THREE BIDS AND NOTIFY THE A BLC OF THE BID, UM, BID RESULTS AND GO FORWARD AND HAVE FROST CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT MOBILIZING IMMEDIATELY TO FINISH THE FIELD. SO EVERYTHING RUNNING CON CONCURRENTLY, THAT'S MY MOTION. HAVE A MOTION SECOND. MOTION SECOND BY DR. JACKSON AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE JUMPING IN LINE THERE. . ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE? NOT HEARING ANY. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED MOTION? SO GO BY SAYING AYE. AYE. SAME SIGN FOR ANY OPPOSED? NOT HEARING ANY, THE MOTION CARRIES. IS THAT CLEAR? THAT'S CLEAR. PROBABLY SHOULD ASK THAT BEFORE I HAVE THE PICK ON THE MOTION. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO NOW I'LL CALL TOMORROW. HEY, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE Y'ALL LEAVE, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP. IT IS GOOD TO SEE A FACE. UM, I KNOW WE'RE NOT, WE DIDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU SENT SENT THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PROJECT MANAGER, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. UM, IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO DEAL DIRECTLY WITH PEOPLE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND OUR FRUSTRATION IS, IS REAL. AND AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE KNOW IT DOESN'T SOLELY FALL ON YOUR SHOULDER. SO, UM, BUT WE ARE EXCITED TO SEE THE PROJECT HIT COMPLETE. AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WOULD TRY TO WORK UNDER THAT THREE, THREE MONTH WINDOW. AND WELL, SIR, FOR SURE, WE BELIEVE YOU. WE JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE YOUR BEST EFFORT. THAT'S ALL I GUESS I CAN ASK. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL PHONE AS WELL. THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UM, UH, FOR FUTURE AS WELL, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL PROVIDE 'EM WITH OUR FUTURE DATES AHEAD OF TIME. AND SO THAT WAY THEY KNOW WHAT OUR SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS AND ANTICIPATE HAVING THEM BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UPDATES WOULD BE FANTASTIC. SPEAKING OF UPDATES [5. Update, discussion, and possible action on park and drainage projects supported by Angleton Better Living Corporation. ] NUMBER FIVE, UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARK AND DRAINAGE PROJECTS SUPPORTED BY ANGLETON, BETTER LIVING CORPORATION. JASON, YOU'RE BACK. I'M HERE AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UH, SO THIS ONE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. WE WANNA PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR PROJECTS ON OUR CURRENT STATUS, UH, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER ITEMS TO POTENTIALLY DISCUSS FOR, UH, FUNDING AS WE LOOK TO CLOSE OUT THIS FISCAL YEAR. UM, AND SO FIRST ONE IS, UH, GONNA START WITH THE BIG HIGHLIGHTS, UH, FOR ABIGAIL A. PARK. UH, OBVIOUSLY, DEFINITELY EXCITED TO SEE PROGRESS ON THIS ONE. YOU'LL SEE PICTURES INCLUDING YOUR PACKET OF PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE. UH, THE BIGGEST ONE TO NOTE, UH, AS YOU GET DOWN IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING, UH, IS CURRENTLY BEING RENTED. AND SO EXCITING TO SEE THAT ONE TAKE PLACE, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. SO DEFINITELY, UH, CONTINUE TO PROGRESS IN GETTING ABIGAIL DONE. UM, AS FAR AS A PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS, THE PLAYGROUND IS ABOUT 95% COMPLETE. THE MAIN TWO COMPONENTS FOR THAT ONE IS, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SMALL SOLUTION FOR THE DRAINAGE FOR OUR CORN PLATE. AND SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A CORN PLATE SURFACE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WATER GETS OFF TO NOT IMPACT THE, THE, UM, CORN PLATE SURFACE. UH, SO WORKING THROUGH ONE OF THOSE AND THEN WE WILL GET THE CORN PLATE AND THE TURF AND SALT AND THAT WILL END THE, UH, PLAYGROUND PROJECT. UH, THE SPLASH PAD IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO THAT ONE. UM, WE HAD A, A SMALL HICCUP WHERE WE IDENTIFIED THAT, UH, THREE PLAY OR SPRAY FEATURES WERE COVERED BY THE CONCRETES. NOT TO WORRY, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHERE THOSE ARE AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT. UH, THE LAST MAIN COMPONENT FOR THEIRS IS WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, THE OVERFLOW DRAIN FOR THE, UH, UH, SPLASH PAD. SO, AS YOU KNOW, IT HAS A, A STORAGE TANK TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT WATER FOR IRRIGATION. AND THEN, UH, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAKING SURE THAT OVERFLOW FROM THERE, WHERE IT GOES. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, AS WELL AS THE FINAL COMPONENTS WILL BE TESTING AND THE TOUGH COAT SURFACE. SO PUTTING THE TOUGH COAT SURFACE ON THAT WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL WE'RE CLOSE TO THE END OF THE PROJECT, JUST TO FINALIZE, TO ENSURE PEOPLE AREN'T, UH, WALKING ALL OVER THAT. SO, UM, BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO SEE THE SITES, UH, THEY ALL, THE SPLASHED, UH, FEATURE IS ERECTED. MINUS ONE, UH, UH, PIECE FOR OUR AO, WHICH IS OUR BENCH SETUP ACTUALLY HAS A SMALL RIVER COMPONENT THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THAT COMING IN. UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. UH, PLAYGROUND. ALL OF OUR COMPONENTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED THOUGH, UH, SO DEFINITELY EXCITED THERE AND CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS. UH, I DO WANT TO MENTION THOUGH, UM, UH, WE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, WE DID HAVE A LITTLE HURDLE TO OVERCOME FOR OUR SANITARY SEWER LINE, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, THANKS TO, UH, COLLABORATION WITH AMERICAN LEGION. THEY DID GRANT US AN [01:05:01] EASEMENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING UTIL EASEMENT. AND SO WE DID GET THAT. UH, I WILL BE FULLY TRANSPARENT THOUGH, UH, JUST THIS COMMON THEME WE'RE UNFORTUNATELY KIND OF HEARING. SO WE GAVE APPROVAL FOR THAT IN AUGUST. AND, UH, DL MICUM JUST RECEIVED THE PLAN SETS FOR THAT LAST WEEK. SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT BACK FROM THEM. SO, UH, WE'RE STILL, UH, HOPEFUL TO GET THAT DONE QUICKLY, UH, BUT DELAYING GETTING THE INFORMATION TO OUR CONTRACTOR AND SO IT JUST DELAYS THINGS FROM THERE. UM, AND SO, UH, UNTIL WE, UH, GET MORE CLEAR DIRECTION ON THAT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING HOPEFULLY UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER TO PROVIDE A OFFICIALS OPENING DATE TO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO HAVE THAT PROJECT DONE. SO, UH, I'M GONNA PAUSE THERE FOR A SECOND 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE BANK PROJECT AND SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ABIGAIL SPECIFICALLY. HAS EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE BY? JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY THERE YESTERDAY, THIS MORNING, ACTUALLY. OKAY. DEFINITELY TAKING SHAPE MOST OF THE SIDEWALKS IN MINUS THE FEW THINGS THAT THEY'RE STILL USING FOR A SITE ACCESS. UM, I DID, I APOLOGIZE, FAILED TO MENTION, UH, TANDEM GLOBAL IS STILL MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT ONE FOR THEIR ADDITIONAL, UH, GARDEN AREA, UH, THAT IS FULLY FUNDED BY 'EM. WE ACTUALLY GOT SOME PLANTS IN ALREADY THAT, UM, THEY JUST HAD A SOURCE AHEAD OF TIME. UH, SO DEFINITELY EXCITED THERE. THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED PUSHING INFORMATION OUT. SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL, UH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING TO HELP PLANT ON THAT DAY, THAT'LL BE THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER. UM, AND SO EXCITED TO ADD THAT. UH, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I'M NOT GONNA MENTION AT THIS TIME, BUT WE HAVE SOME SMALL ITEMS WE'RE TRYING TO ADD TO THE PROJECT THAT REALLY, UH, UM, BRING SOMETHING TO IT FOR ABIGAIL. UH, SO UNTIL WE FINALIZE SOME OF THAT STUFF, I'LL BRING THAT LATER. BUT, UH, DEFINITELY EXCITED FOR THIS ONE. IT'S, UH, MOVING ALONG AND, AND WE'RE GETTING THERE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS INTO THE PARK SYSTEM. SO, SO ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 51, YOU SAYS BURETT PROVIDED SENSOR SERIAL LIFT AND STAFF IS WAITING FOR THE CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL FROM DL MITCHELL. YES. AND WHAT, WHAT IS THAT CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL EXPECT IT TO BE? UH, THAT IS, I HAVE NO IDEA. UM, SO WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME RESERVE FUNDS TO COVER THAT, BUT THAT'S THE PART WE'RE WAITING ON. UH, HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO ANOTHER SITUATION WE'RE IN. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE BEING THAT WE'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING WITH THIS PROJECT. I'VE ALREADY MET WITH HECTOR ON THIS ONE, UH, TO WHERE WE NEED TO SOURCE LOCALLY, UH, AND WE FIND MORE FAVORABLE FUNDING, WE'LL DO THE EXACT SAME THING, BUT DO, KEEP IN MIND IT IS UNDERGROUND, UH, SANITARY SEWER, UH, AND, UH, IT IS QUITE A TREK FROM. SO, UH, BEST I CAN SAY IS IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE THE PROJECT IS, SO WHERE THE PAVILION IS GOING NORTH TO NONE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS LANDED AND BEFORE MM-HMM . NOW WE'RE CUTTING IT ALL THE WAY WEST AND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY THROUGH BACK BEHIND THE APARTMENTS TO CUT, CONNECT THEM TO THE EASEMENT ON THAT SIDE. SO THERE WILL BE A COST ASSOCIATED, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP STRAIGHT, IS DL MITCHUM IS LIKE, LIKE FROST IS, YES. MM-HMM . YEAH. I'M JUST SAYING IS YEAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER WE'RE SEEING A PATTERN. MM, YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I WAS GONNA SAY. YEP. NOT TO BE, I DON'T, I'M LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS. MM-HMM . MR. DICKEY, POINT OUT WHAT SEEMS TO BE A PATTERN. UM, SO COMMISSIONER MATHIS, UM, IS, IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR THE CITY TO, TO ALMOST ACT AS AN INTERMEDIARY AND MAKE SURE, OR TO HELP FACILITATE THIS PROCESS THAT OUR, THAT I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO, I KNOW PROFESSIONALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE SITTING OVER PEOPLE'S SHOULDERS AND HAVING THEM DO THEIR JOB AND 'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT DONE TO ME, BUT, UM, I'M BEING HONEST. UH, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S GOTTA BE, I DON'T KNOW, THE, THE WIRES AREN'T CONNECTING. THERE'S SOMETHING LOST IN TRANSLATION. THOSE ARE BAD METAPHORS, BUT YOU GET WHAT POINT I'M MAKING. THE POINT IS WE'RE IT'S NOT GETTING DONE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING'S BEING AMIS, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EITHER NOT ACTING OR THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT TO THE PROPER PEOPLE. AND I'M WONDERING, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PICK UP THE PHONE ENGINEER, DESIGNER, CAN WE, [01:10:01] IS THIS OUT? IS IT DONE? AND IF SO, CAN WE GET IT TO US AND CAN WE GET IT TO, OR CAN WE GET SOME CONTRACTORS IN? WHAT I MEAN, WHATEVER. UM, ABSOLUTELY. UH, I CAN TELL YOU THOSE THINGS CAN, ARE HAPPENING NOW. UH, THE HARD PART IS WHEN YOU HIT, YOU HIRE A DESIGN TEAM, RIGHT, UH, TO DESIGN IT AND IT'S BASED ON THEIR SCOPE. UM, SOME OF IT YOU'RE KIND OF AT THE MERCY OF, UNLESS YOU GO OFF IN LEFT FIELD. RIGHT? UH, AND I WILL SAY, I'LL USE ABIGAIL AS AN EXAMPLE. UM, YOU KNOW, I AM ALL FOR EXPLORING THE OPTIONS TO REDUCE THE COST TO THE CITY, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS DO THAT, RIGHT? UH, BUT THE EXAMPLE COMES FROM THAT ONE IS SOME OF THE HICCUPS WE'VE RUN INTO FOR ABIGAIL PLAYGROUND, SPLASH PAD AND UH, FULL PROJECT ARE THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS. AND SO IF THERE IS NOT THAT COHESIVENESS THERE IN COMMUNICATION AND THE CITY IS THAT SOME OF THAT GETS LOST IN THE TRANSLATION. UM, AND SO DONE EXACTLY THAT CALLED TO CHECK IN. I NOW KNOW WHO THE EXEC ENGINEER IS FOR, UH, ABIGAIL, OR ACTUALLY FOR BOTH THE PROJECT THAT'S BIRD'S WORKING WITH. SO CHECK-INS WITH THEM. AND I CAN TELL YOU THE TRENDS IS SIMILAR ON THEIR SIDE BECAUSE IT'S A THIRD PARTY, UH, ENGINEER. UM, AND SO THERE'S JUST SOME OF THOSE PIECES, BUT IT, AT THE MERCY OF WHAT I'M GETTING BACK IN RETURN ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE, UH, I MEAN, I'LL USE FREEDOM AS THE GREAT EXAMPLE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE. WE KNEW WHAT IT WAS, WE WANTED A SOLUTION. WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS A SOLUTION, ANOTHER SOLUTION. BUT WAIT, WE'LL GET IT TO YOU AND HERE WE ARE. RIGHT? UM, AND SO FOR ME IT'S LET'S CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD AND EVALUATE WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE. ONE THINGS, THE PART OF THIS, THIS TREND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE SEEMS TO ME LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE DOING THE CONTRACTING? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING OUT BIDS FOR SOMEBODY TO DESIGN IT AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND BUILDS IT. BUT THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WILL DESIGN IT AND BUILD IT, DO THE WORK. YEAH. DO THE WHOLE TURNKEY. YEAH. WE'VE HAD MIXED RESULTS WITH THAT. YEAH. SO HOW DID IT, HOW DID S NOT ALWAYS RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH, IT IS THE UNFORTUNATE SIDE. UM, YOU WOULD LOVE EVERY PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO ALL THE THINGS. UH, I WOULD SAY THERE, THERE IS A, A GLARING TREND FOR THESE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, THAT YOU MIGHT NOT NORMALLY SEE. UH, AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY SPECIFIC NAMES, BUT WE'VE HAD OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE EXACT CONTRACTOR BEFORE AND HAD MIXED RESULTS WITH THAT CONTRACTOR AND WE'VE WORKED WITH 'EM AGAIN, BUT THE PERSON ON THE PROJECT CHANGED AND WE HAD MUCH BETTER RESULTS ON THAT ONE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE JUST AT A CROSSROADS. WE GOT MULTIPLE PROJECTS HAPPENING THAT REQUIRE THE SAME THING. UM, AND SO IT'S JUST, YEAH. SO MY, MY QUESTION IS JUST GEARED TOWARDS WHAT THE CITY CAN DO. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT OF THINGS YOU'RE SUGGESTING MM-HMM . SO FOR ME, I GUESS THAT'S THE CASE AND THAT'S THE CASE. AND YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S, I MEAN, FOR ME, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S, IT'S HARD TO CONSTANTLY HAVE TO FOLLOW UP AND ASK THE QUESTION, WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? WHAT ABOUT THIS ITEM? WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? AND WE'LL GET IT. IT'S COMING. IT'S THIS, IT'S THAT. AND THEN YOU GET ONE OF 'EM, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? WHERE ARE WE ON THIS ITEM? UM, AND IT'S JUST AS LONG AS, UH, I WILL SAY ABIGAIL'S AT LEAST SEEING PROGRESS, THAT IS THE ONE CAVEAT THAT IS HELPFUL THAT WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD VERSUS FREEDOM PARK. IT, IT LOOKS WORSE NOW THAN BEFORE THE PROJECT STARTED. MM-HMM . I GOT SOME PRACTICE. FEELS BAD. YEAH. I AT LEAST SAY ABIGAIL LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN BEFORE THE PROJECT. OH, I UNDERSTAND. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO YEAH, I'LL, THE, THE POINT WAS MADE THAT THERE'S MAYBE SEEMS TO BE SOME, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, DROPPING OF THE BALL, SOME, SOME LAG IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE COMMUNICATION ISSUES. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN CREATE SOME EFFICIENCY. WHAT CAN THE CITY DO TO HELP THAT THAT FACILITATE MAYBE IS A BETTER WORD. BUT, YOU KNOW, THING IS JASON THOUGH, I THINK THIS PUTS A LOT OF WORK ON YOU ACTUALLY. OH, I KNOW IT DOES. I'M ASKING, I KNOW JASON. I KNOW YOU'RE LIKE TRAVIS, I DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH. I DON'T TRUST IT'S ALREADY THERE BECAUSE WHAT TRA TRAVIS SAID EARLIER, AND I WAS GONNA SAY WE'RE DOING THAT. I WAS GONNA SAY BIRD DOG. I'M LIKE, NO, NOT BIRD DOG. THAT'S MORE OR LESS LIKE MICROMANAGING. LIKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO MICROMANAGE. BUT THE THING IS, THAT'S THE THING IT'S ABOUT. AND NOT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ONE COMPANY OTHER, BUT WE HAVE A GOOD QUALITY [01:15:01] COMPANY. YOU FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MICROMANAGE WHEN THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE. RIGHT. AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DEADLINE SET. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? BUT NOW MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK JOHN HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING, BUT SOMEONE SAID ABOUT MAYBE THE DESIGN VERSUS THE, UH, DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION AND SUCH LIKE THAT THE PROJECT. AND LIKE, I THINK JOHN HAD SAID SOMETHING TO THE FACT HE HAD THIS MIXED, MIXED REVIEWS ON THAT. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. 'CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO STARTS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND I'M NOT SAYING LIKE VERTICAL INTEGRATION, ALL THIS STUFF, BUT I'M SAYING YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA DESIGN IT, SOMEONE WHO'S GONNA CONSTRUCT IT, SOMEONE WHO'S GOING INSPECT IT. I MEAN, AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME, SOME OVERVIEW BY SOMEONE ELSE. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. YEAH. SO I THINK CONTACT, YES. SINGLE BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. THIS BUILDING CASE IN POINT. YEAH. RIGHT. DESIGN BUILD. NO, THERE'S, YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S SOME PROJECTS GO QUICKER AND BETTER THAN OTHERS, UM, THAN OTHERS. HERE WE ARE. AND THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT PRIVY TO THAT YOU ARE PRIVY TO. SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE, BECAUSE YOU WORK WITH FROST. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY WE'RE IN COMMUNICATIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS. 'CAUSE I THINK WE'VE MOVED BEYOND. WELL, IT'S NOT YET. NOT YET NOT WELL, I THINK THE SUBJECT WE OKAY. WE CAN JUMP BACK AND FORTH. OKAY. 'CAUSE I GOT SOMETHING I GOTTA ASK ABOUT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I'M GONNA SAY WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS, BUT I'LL CALL US BACK INTO FIVE IN A SECOND. LEGALLY SPEAKING, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. NO, NO, NO, I'M GOOD. I'M, I'M, I WAS JUST SAYING, BASICALLY YOU, YOU HAVE STUFF THAT YOU'RE PRIVY TO THAT WE'RE NOT PRIVY TO. AND THAT'S THE COMMUNICATION YOU HAVE WITH FROST, WITH BIRD AND ALL THOSE GUYS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW HOW IT IS DIRECTLY TO WORK WITH THOSE GUYS AND TO FEEL YOU'RE GETTING BACK FROM THEM. WE CAN LOOK AT STUFF THAT'S ON PAPER AND THINGS STOP BEING COMPLETED AND WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN OPINION AND COME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IS BEST. BUT YOU ACTUALLY WORK WITH THESE GUYS AND LIKE FOR US TO SAY YOU, YOU KNOW, MICROMANAGE OR DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE. CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. SO AS LONG AS YOU FILL UP TO THE JOB AND YOU DON'T MIND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE EXTRA TIME IN, WE APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. WELL PULL OUT THE RUBBER BOOTS. YEAH. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANNA SEE IF THESE PROJECTS GET DONE, BUT GET DONE WELL. RIGHT. UM, I MEAN, IT GOES BACK TO THE SAME THING WITH, YOU KNOW, FROST PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER AND I SAID, WAIT, HOLD ON. LIKE, WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? THIS COST IS NOT LIKE, IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. AND SO IT, THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT. LIKE I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THESE PROJECTS AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. UM, YEAH. WOULD IT BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SAY LIKE, HEY, TOMORROW IT'S DONE. WE'RE EASY PEASY. OF COURSE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S, IF IT TAKES WORK AND WE GET IT DONE RIGHT, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO DO. YEAH. AND, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS FOR US, BUT YOU STILL CAN BRING US INFORMATION THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, LETTING US KNOW. LIKE, THESE ARE REALLY GOOD, FAIR COMPASS TO DEAL WITH, SO APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. AND THE, GOING BACK TO FIVE, THERE'S SOME OTHER DAY UPDATES THAT WE DON'T SEE IN THE PACKET. UH, THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN. OH, DID I MISS THAT? UM, JUST NOT AS PRETTY AS THE, WE GOT ONE, SORRY. OKAY. YES. I'M SORRY. I SEE IT NOW. YEAH. UM, SO I'M GOING, UH, I'LL LET HECTOR COME UP HERE TO DISCUSS THIS IN JUST A SECOND. UH, BUT I WANNA PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON, UH, SO, UH, TWO PROJECTS THAT WERE, UH, COVERED THIS YEAR THAT WERE PART OF PARK'S PRIORITIES WERE COVERAGE FOR BATES PARK, UH, THAT IS STILL IN THE WORKS. WE DO ANTICIPATE THEM TO GET THEIR COVERING IN, UH, LATE OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER. WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT FIELDS WAS IT? THREE AND FOUR. THREE AND FOUR. YEP. AND DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY DESIGN THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US? WHAT DO Y'ALL GO IN WITH? UH, IT'LL BE THE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD THE CANTILEVER, UH, WHICH IS PART OF OUR, SO IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE HERE? YEP. YEAH. BIGGER THOUGH. BIGGER. YEAH. WE, WE WENT, WE WENT, UH, BIGGER THAN THE BLEACHER SIZE. WHAT THE THREE AND FOUR THAT THE, THE PART, THE LEFT FIELD AND THE RIGHT FIELD SIDE, THAT LINE UP, DID Y'ALL GO, WAS SEPARATE OR DID Y'ALL GO WITH ONE BIG ONE THAT COVERED BOTH SEPARATE? THE, THE ONE BIG ONE WOULD'VE BEEN EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. OKAY. SO HAVE TWO, TWO SMALLER WAS ACTUALLY OKAY. YES, BECAUSE, UH, THREE, THE SIZE OF FOUR YEARS, UM, THE SPACE IN BETWEEN YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO GO MUCH LARGER TO GET THAT SAME COVERAGE. SO, UM, BUT YEAH. 'CAUSE THERE'S A GAP. I SEE. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, AND THEN THE PARKING LOT STRIPING IS THE OTHER ONE. KNOCK ON WOOD WEATHER, IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK. UH, BUT IF SLATE FOR ALL OF 'EM TO GET DONE. UM, AND SO APPRECIATION OF THAT. I KNOW PARKS BOARD IS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AS WELL. THEY CAN DO IT ON SATURDAY . UM, I'VE SAID, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GET IT DONE WHEN YOU CAN? RIGHT. THEY DID ASK, PLEASE DON'T DO IT ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY. THEY SHOULDN'T DO IT. HE, WHEN THEY ASKED, THEY SAID, WHAT IS BETTER? I SAID, DURING THE WEEK, DURING THE DAY IS WHAT I, I DON'T THINK IT MATTER ANYWAY. PAINT [01:20:01] IN THE RAIN, RIGHT? UM, IS RAINING RIGHT NOW. NO. BUT 10 MINUTE OR 10 MINUTE DRIVE TIME, HOUR CURE TIME AND NO, IT'S GOOD. SO, UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HECTOR TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, PROVIDE UPDATES. I DID WANNA BRING BEFORE THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. UH, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO JOHN HAD ASKED FOR THIS THAT WE'RE HOPEFUL TO HAVE UPDATES IN OCTOBER MEETING OF EXPANSIVE ONE FREEDOM PARK. UH, THE AC COMPRESSOR HAS FAILED. OH, YES. YES. UH, AND SO THE COST TO REPLACE THE COMPRESSOR FROM A 2008, UH, UNITS IS $3,000. UH, HOWEVER IT SAYS POSSIBLY 35 UNIT IS $11,000. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO I WANTED TO BRING FOR CONSIDERATION IF THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER FUNDING THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT, UH, BEFORE I'D SAY THAT. AND YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE CONSIDERING THAT TO TAKE ACTION. UH, WE ARE EXPLORING THE, EXPANDING THE AC UH, OUR CURRENT, UH, PLAN THOUGH, WOULD DO THE SEPARATE SPLIT UNIT THAT WOULD DO THE AC THERE. SO THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THIS. THIS WOULD STILL COVER WHAT IS EXISTING THERE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL DOCK WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE WOULD TACKLE THE OTHER PROJECT OF DOING THE BATHROOMS AS A SEPARATE PIECE. UH, THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THIS. UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD COME BACK IN OCTOBER WITH THE FULL PLAN. THIS WOULD JUST GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROPOSAL, UH, TO GET THE C REPLACED AND SO WE CAN FINALLY GET THE AC BACK. UM, BUT A UNIT FROM 2008, UH, DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME REFRIGERANT ANYMORE. AND SO WE CAN REPLACE IT, BUT AS SOON AS WE REPLACE IT, I GUARANTEE SOMETHING ELSE GONNA GO. UH, IT'S ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD, WHICH IS A GREAT LIFESPAN CONSIDERING OUR . SO, UM, I'LL ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HECTOR FOR DRAINAGE STUFF, IF YOU'RE, WELL, I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEND MORE MONEY, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING A SEPARATE SOLUTION, SO TWO SYSTEMS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND ONE IS FOR THE, THE SECOND PART OF THE, OF THE BUILDING. YEAH. THE BATHROOMS. AND THERE'S ONE OTHER SPOT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT STORAGE. THERE'S, YEAH, THE STORAGE, I THINK, UM, WHICH IS SET UP EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ONE AT BATES PARK. MM-HMM . SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ONE, MAYBE LET'S DO 'EM BOTH TOGETHER. MAKING SENSE, YOU KNOW, UM, NOW IF WE HAVE TO DO IT IN TWO DIFFERENT BUDGET CYCLES, I GUESS SO, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME DISCOUNTS OR, YOU KNOW. WELL, AND UH, TO THAT POINT, KEEP IN MIND FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR ALCS, IT'S A ROLLING FUND, RIGHT? AND SO EVEN IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SPEND MONEY AT ONE FISCAL YEAR AND WE EARMARKED IT, IT IS JUST GONNA ROLL OVER TO A BLC BACK TO THEM. SO, BUT I CAN LOOK AT THAT. THAT DEFINITELY WOULD BE A MAJOR UPGRADE TO OUR FACILITIES IF WE COULD AC THOSE BATHROOMS ON BOTH BATES AND FREEDOM. OKAY. UM, IS EXACTLY WHY WE DESIGNED IT TO BE BUILT THE SAME WAY. SO YOU COULD YEAH. LEVERAGE BOTH SIDES. SO WE CAN DO THAT. I'LL LOOK AT TWO, UH, 'CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THE AGE OF THE AC, IT'S BATES. UM, BUT WE COULD ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT FOR FUTURE TO JUST HAVE A NUMBER OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE. I WOULD HATE TO NECESSARILY REPLACE IF IT'S ANYWHERE CLOSE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO CLOSE IT IN. YES. AND THAT'S THE DOORS THAT THE LAST PIECE WERE, UH, GETTING PROPOSALS ON AS A CONTRACTOR THAT WOULD CLOSE IT IN AND BE ABLE TO, THE DOOR SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY. BUT THE, THE ENCLOSURE IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT. I NEED A LIGHTING ADDITIONAL ONE. YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT ONE FOR THE CLOSED DOORS IT SEEMS. AND TO CLOSE IN THE EXTERIOR. I THINK YOU'RE GONNA NEED SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHTING. UM, I'LL WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. I MEAN, JUST YEAH, WE MAY NOT NEED ADDITIONAL, IF I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER ANOTHER, THAT ONE I THINK I HAVE IN MY HEAD, B TWO PACK STUCK IN MY HEAD. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE LIGHT FIXTURES TO A NEWER FIXTURE AND THAT MIGHT SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. YEAH. MIGHT NEED SOME, UH, UPGRADED OUTAGE. SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL. THAT TO ME IS THE DEFINITION OF BETTER LIVING CORPORATION IS ACTUALLY RAISING THE STANDARDS OF OUR YES. OF OUR FACILITIES. SO, OKAY. ANY OTHER, DOES ANYBODY HAVE, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE PROPOSED IN A MOTION, UH, FOR AIR CONDITIONING? THE AIR CONDITIONING. AIR CONDITIONING, YES. BUT I'M GONNA LET HECTOR SPEAK FIRST. OKAY. LET'S HEAR THAT. CONSIDER FUNDING ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS HE HAD BEFORE WE DO A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. HECTOR WOULD JOIN US, PLEASE. BEEN VERY PATIENT OVER THERE FOR THE LAST HOUR, 26 MINUTES. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. GOOD EVENING. UM, SO IN, IN, UH, WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME, I THINK IN JUNE, YEAH, IN JUNE, UM, UH, A BLC APPROVED, UH, THE NORTHVIEW DRAINAGE PROJECT, UH, WE ALLOCATED $61,226 FOR THAT PROJECT. [01:25:01] AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE'RE BECOMING WAY UNDER BUDGET ON THAT. UM, AS OF NOW, WE'RE $8,000 IN TO DO THE, UH, THE DRAINAGE WORK, THE ACTUAL DITCH CUTTING OF THE DITCH THAT GOES FROM, UH, THE END THAT'S CORNER OF NORTH VIEW ALL THE WAY OUT BACK TOWARDS, UH, KIND OF HEADING BACK TOWARDS DOWNEY BEHIND THAT CHURCH AREA. THERE'S A LARGER DITCH WHERE ALL THAT DRAINS INTO THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED. UM, AND I HAVEN'T GOT ALL THE QUOTES BACK FOR, UH, FOR REPAIRING THE ROAD, BUT WE WILL BE UNDER $25,000 TOTAL FOR THAT PROJECT. WOW. SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, AND WITH THAT, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO, UM, THE, THE CITY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. UM, HAD WE JUST FUNDED TWO OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS. UH, ONE WAS ON MIMOSA, ONE WAS ON UH, ON MOLINA DRIVE. BOTH OF THOSE CAME RIGHT AROUND $30,000. GOOD. UM, AND SO THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN THAT SAME AREA OF MIMOSA ON A GARDENIA DRIVE ON THE BAY. IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT ROAD. UH, THE ROAD'S BEGINNING TO FAIL, BUT ALSO THE UH, THE DRAIN LINE GOING BACK IS GOING IN BETWEEN HOMES AND THAT'S STARTING TO FAIL TOO. WE'RE GETTING SOME CAINS IN THAT AREA. SO THAT SHOULD, IT'S EXACT SAME PROJECT AS MIMOSA BASICALLY. SO IT SHOULD BE AROUND $30,000. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO WITH THAT REMAINING FUNDS. AND IF THAT'S DECIDED, I'LL COME BACK WITH ACTUAL FORMAL QUOTES PROPOSAL AND COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN FORMALLY MAKE THAT MOTION. THANKS. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. ANYTIME WE CAN HELP PEOPLE WITH DRAINAGE, THAT'S ANGLETON BETTER LIVING. SO WHAT ABOUT SPANISH TRACE AND CROSSING? SO SPANISH TRACE, WOULDN'T THOSE BE DRAINAGE ISSUES AS WELL? THEY, SO THEY ARE, THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE ROAD TO FAIL, BUT THAT PROJECT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE AROUND $125,000. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HDR HAD PITCHED THAT ONE IS. SO I'M JUST, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I GOT THAT FITS IN THAT REMAINING AMOUNT. YOU GOT STUFF MONEY LEFT IN THE BUDGET. YEAH. WELL WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED. NOT SURE IF THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS, WOULD YOU SAY ROUGHLY 61 AND WE THINK IT'S GONNA COME IN AT 25 OR LESS, LEAVING THIS AROUND 30. SO WE SHOULD BE RIGHT THERE, SOME LEFT OVER. BUT I DO AGREE THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE DONE AS WELL AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MEADOW USED ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS A, A CAVED IN AREA AS WELL AND QUITE A FEW OF 'EM ON THIS LIST. IT'S PREVIOUS LISTED I PROVIDED THAT ARE SAME BOAT. SO SORRY. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. WE MAY HAVE LIKE $6,000 LEFT OVER. POSSIBLY. POSSIBLY IF EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN. BUT WHAT I KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE AND PUBLIC WORKS THINGS IS SUN. THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THIS PLAN . WELL IF THERE IS, LET US KNOW. WE'LL FIND A NOOK SOMEWHERE. DEFINITELY WILL, DEFINITELY WILL A NOOK OR AIR OR SOMETHING. YEAH, EXACTLY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE ON DRAINAGE. KEN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD START. UM, FINISH OFF. IT'S OUR CHARTER THE YEAR TO SEE WHERE WE FINISH TO SEE WHAT BE FUNDED OR IT CAN'T BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SUSIE WOULD SAY ABOUT FUND BALANCE. YEAH, SHE'S GONNA BE REALLY MINDFUL OF WATCHING HOW THE SALES TAX FINISHES THE LAST TWO MONTHS. SO IS THAT CONTINGENCY LINE AS YOU SAID? WE'LL GO DOWN, I'LL BRING, I'LL UPDATE THIS LIST AND I'LL ADD SPANISH TRACE TO THIS LIST. I'LL BRING ALL THAT BACK AND GET EVERYTHING UPDATED FOR THE NEXT TIME. I HERE FOR UH, GARDENIA. GOTTA FIND A WAY TO FUND SPANISH TRACE. IF IT'S NOT THE WAY, WE'LL SEE. IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING ELSE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU'ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU. UH, TO YOUR POINT SHA I DO WANNA MENTION THIS AS WELL. UM, SO WITH SALES TAX TIMES, WE KNOW WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION PRIOR TO AS WELL, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT A RC REC VISION WAS IN A GOOD WAY THIS YEAR. RIGHT? UH, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST AS WE TO LOOK ONCE THE YEAR CLOSES OUT, UH, KNOWING. SO WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR, SO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, ROLLA WILL CLOSE THE BOOKS ON LAST YEAR'S STUFF. UH, FINISH THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE SLATED, GET THAT INCLUDED AND DETERMINE HOW THAT LOOKS. AND WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE, UH, FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS MAY NOT COME OUT OF THE, UH, NORTHVIEW MAY NOT FULL, MAY NOT COME OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGETS. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S RESERVED, UM, TO SHOW THAT AND DELINEATE THAT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET. UH, BUT ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO CLOSE OUT THIS FISCAL'S BUDGET, IT'LL GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS. UH, TO YOUR POINT OF FUND BALANCE, THE GOOD NEWS IS ON FUND BALANCE CURRENTLY, UH, WE ARE IN A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE. SO THERE IS GOOD RESERVE. SO ANY MONEY THAT DOES COME BACK IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL WORK ON IS HOPEFULLY BY THAT TIME WE CAN, UH, HAVE A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ANTICIPATE CLOSING OUT FOR ABIGAIL. THAT'LL HAVE THE, WE WILL HAVE THE CHANGE ORDER BY THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE THE DRAINAGE PIECE FOR FREEDOM INCLUDED IN THERE SO THAT I CAN GIVE A RECAP ON THOSE PROJECTS AND THE FUNDING TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF [01:30:01] WHAT'S AVAILABLE. UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS, WE SHOULD BE IN A HEALTHY PLACE. 'CAUSE HECTOR AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS. UM, SOME OF THOSE DRAINAGE ONES ARE COSTLY, UM, BUT BEING ABLE TO FIND MONEY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES IS GONNA HAVE A GREATER BENEFITS. UH, YES, THE SMALLER ONES ARE GREAT, RIGHT? WE, WE'VE GOT ADDRESS DRAINAGE IN GENERAL, UH, BUT IF WE CAN FIND A, A GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE, UH, SO THEN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS MAKING SURE THAT DRAINAGE BECOMES, COMES BACK AS A REGULAR THING FOR THESE MEETINGS. TO HAVE THAT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT BIG NUMBERS WE'VE GOTTA HIT, SOMETIMES WE CAN'T ALWAYS DO THE SMALL THINGS. WE THAT ONE'S A BIGGER PRIORITY THAN THE SMALL ONE, UH, TO RESERVE THAT. SO, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ONCE SALES TAX COMES IN. UH, BUT ALSO ONCE FISCAL YEAR CLOSES OUT, THAT'S GONNA TELL BE TELLING AS WELL. SALES TAX WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT, UH, BUT BY THE NEXT MEETING WE SHOULD HAVE OCTOBER'S NUMBERS IN AND SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD INDICATOR OF DECEMBER, UH, YOU KNOW, OR NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 2ND I GUESS. UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD B ESTIMATE ON THAT ONE. BUT ONCE WE CLOSE THE FISCAL YEAR, THAT'LL GIVE US A BETTER INDICATOR OF WHAT'S GONNA BE ROLLING OVER, UH, TO FUND THAT ONES TO BE ABLE TO USE FOR A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. YEP. ALRIGHT. SOUNDS GREAT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? MOTIONS. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO BACK UP QUICK. YEP. ANY ACTION ON THE AC? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. UH, WELL TWO, TWO PART QUESTION. HOW SOON DO YOU SEE THE QUOTES COMING BACK TO YOU? I HAVE THOSE. AND HOW SOON CAN WE START ON IT? UH, SOON IF I HAVE MONEY, WHERE WOULD THAT MONEY COME FROM? HE HAS MONEY . YES, Y'ALL DO. UM, AND SO TWO OPTIONS IS THERE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT LEFT IN CONTINGENCY, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT SALES TAX LOOKS AT MM-HMM . WORST CASE SCENARIO. YOU DO HAVE FUNDING AND UH, FUND BALANCE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT. SO THE THE, THE FUNDING'S THERE AND IDEALLY, I GUESS WE NEED TO DECIDE WHICH ROUTE WE WANT TO GO THOUGH. DO Y'ALL WANT THE COMPRESSOR OR THE, THE UPGRADE? I, I, I THINK GO FOR THE UPGRADE. 'CAUSE I MEAN THAT COMPRESSOR, LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST A THIRD OF THE, THAT'S JUST A PART, BUT IT'S A THIRD OF OF THE COST. COST, YEAH. OR THE UNIT FROM 2008. YEAH. AND, AND HE ALSO MENTIONED THERE'S DIFFERENCE IN REFRIGERANTS. YEAH. THAT REFRIGERANT IS NO LONGER MADE. SO, RIGHT. UH, COST TO DO REPAIRS ON THAT IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL REFRIGERANTS INCREASES. YEP. SO IS THAT A MOTION? OH I CAN DO IT THAT WAY. UH, DO IT RIGHT. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO WITH THE, UH, NEW UNIT REPLACEMENT, UH, FOR THE HVAC FOR FREEDOM PARK SECOND. OKAY. ANY GUIDANCE ON WHERE THE TO PULL THE MONEY FROM? I THINK CONTINUOUSLY. OKAY. CONTINUOUSLY, BECAUSE WHERE IT'S, I MEAN THINK ABOUT COUNTY WISE, IF IT'S, WE AREN'T FAVORABLE, IT'S GONNA PULL, IT'S GONNA JUST AUTOMATICALLY PULL FROM YOUR FUND BALANCE. YEP. OKAY. SO JUST, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND DID I HEAR A SECOND? YES. YEP. MOTION SECOND. SO LUIS. OKAY. AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND A SECOND. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE CALLING FOR A VOTE? NOT HEARING ANY, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OCEAN CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. COMMUNICATION [COMMUNICATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS ] FROM BOARD MEMBERS. I DO HAVE ONE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. AYE. THREW OUT THE IDEA OF MATCHING GRANTS TO THE, SPECIFICALLY THE LEAGUES THAT ARE RES THAT UTILIZE THE PUBLIC, THAT USE THE, THE CITY'S FACILITIES. SO YOU HAVE LEAGUE BEING, I GUESS, UH, ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB, YOU HAVE GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION AND UH, LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL, ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE. AND THEN THE RESPECT OF, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER FITTING A CAP OF MAYBE $10,000, WHICH MEANS 30 ACROSS THE BOARD. AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND FACILITIES I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT BRINGING INTO MY ATTENTION BUT, AND HAVE THOSE, UM, THE GRANT WOULD BE A MATCHING GRANT IN THE SENSE THAT IF UP TO EACH DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY PUT INTO, UH, WE WOULD MATCH UP TO $10,000. I THINK THIS GETS THEM TO PUT MONEY WHERE THEY'RE PLAYING THEIR, UH, TO [01:35:01] ME IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT, UH, GETS THEM TO INVEST BACK IN THEIR FACILITIES AND HOPEFULLY IT GETS THEM TO EXPEDITE SOME PROJECTS. UM, INSTEAD OF JUST SITTING AROUND WAITING, WE'RE GIVING 'EM A CHANCE TO HAVE ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING. UM, I MEAN, I'M FLEXIBLE ON THOSE NUMBERS. I'M JUST THROWING THE NUMBER. 10,000. I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S A WORKABLE NUMBER. I MEAN SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME THAT'S TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW. UM, BUT UH, THAT'S JUST AN IDEA TO HAVE PEOPLE, 'CAUSE I THINK THE CITY GETS OUT OF IT TOO. 'CAUSE WE BECOME A BENEFICIARY IF, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE $10,000 AND THE ANGLETON GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION WANTS TO UPGRADE A BATHROOM OR AN AIR CONDITIONING OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEN GET MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAVING MONEY ON THAT UPGRADE TO US A PUBLIC FACILITY. SO, SO QUESTIONS TRAVIS. SO, SO YOU SAID WITH THE MAXIMUM OF 10,000 WE COULD SET A DIFFERENT NUMBER. I I'M NOT MARRIED TO THAT. SO WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT GOING IN, WOULD THAT BE LIKE SOMETHING WE JUST GO AHEAD AND OUTLAY AND SAY, HEY, WE MAY JUST GO UP TO A MAX OF SAY WE HAVE A MAXIMUM DO WILLING DO ACROSS THE BOARD FOR LIKE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS? BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SAY $10,000, WE MAY HAVE LIKE SIX ORGANIZATIONS. SO WE KNOW AT THE VERY BEGINNING WE GONNA CAP IT AT 60,000 AND WE HAVE SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS UP UNTIL THAT AMOUNT. WOULD YOU? YEAH, I, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT NUMBER. SO HOW MANY FACIL, HOW MANY, YOU SAID IN YOUR, YOU SAID IN YOUR DISCUSSION THAT IT HAVE TO BE, THEY HAVE TO UTILIZE CITY, UH, FACILITIES. YEAH, IT'D BE, WHICH IS THE THREE THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH. SO WE JUST HAVE THREE THEN NOW THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS OUT THERE THAT HAVE ASKED THE CITY FOR FACILITIES. SO YOU HAVE A YBA, YOU HAVE THE FOOTBALL, YOU KNOW, TON FOOTBALL LEAGUE. YEAH, I THOUGHT THEY WERE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY ARE, BUT THEY'VE ASKED COUNTLESS TIMES FOR, FOR FACILITIES. BUT ACTUALLY THIS IS ALL, THIS IS COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE BOARD SO WE CAN'T DISCUSS THESE THINGS. IT JUST HAS TO BE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU WANT AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SO. OKAY. SO I WOULD ASK AS A COMMUNICATION FROM THIS BOARD IS THAT WE HAVE A, AN ITEM LISTED ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO EXPLORE UM, THIS IDEA OF OF MATCHING GRANTS. I WOULD LIKE IT OUTLINED WHAT FACILITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE ARE TIED TO THOSE FACILITIES AND ARE THERE ANY FRINGE ONES? I SAY FRINGE, THE PROPOSED ONES OR WHATEVER, ONES THAT HAVE HAD EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST. GULF COAST TENNIS CLUB SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT. I WANT TO PRESENT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THEN THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT OUR PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD BE. BECAUSE IF IT'S MORE, THAT BUDGET MAY HAVE TO COME DOWN TO 8,000, UH, OR 5,000. BUT IF IT'S FEWER IT MAY LET IT BE 12,000. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WE WERE GONNA AGREE ON, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT I WANT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A AGENDA ITEM ON, WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU AT THE OCTOBER MEETING. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE, I THINK, I DUNNO IF I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, MAYBE IT WAS UH, MEGAN, UM, PUTTING SOME DIGITAL MARQUEES UP AT THE REC CENTER AND MAYBE, UM, MAYBE ANOTHER ONE AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION TO SEE IF A BOC WOULD BE WILLING TO EXPLORE THAT WITH US TO KIND OF PROMOTE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE REC CENTER. I KNOW WE HAVE THOSE BANNERS ARE USUALLY UP, UH, KINDA CLARITY IN THAT WHEN WE SAY MARQUEE, OUTDOOR, MARQUEE, A DIGITAL DISPLAY MARQUEE. MM-HMM . LIKE WHAT WE HAVE AT FREEDOM, LIKE UH, LAKESIDE PARK, WE CAN TOUCH BASE OFFLINE. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE ONE LIKE LAKESIDE, LAKESIDE PARK HAS THAT, BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER MARQUISES WE UM, NOT LIKE THAT ONE. SOMETHING LIKE CRAWFORD'S FURNITURE. IF YOU GO DOWN TO YEAH WE CAN TOUCH BASE. OH, OKAY. GOOD DEAL. UH, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT. THOSE THINGS TEND TO BURN UP IN THE TEXAS SUN, UH, IN MIGHT LAST YEAR OR TWO. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ELECTRONIC, ESPECIALLY THE ELECTRONICS. MM-HMM . ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO JASON OR MS. DANOR OR HECTOR NOT HEARING ANY? I'M CALLING FOR ADJOURNMENT AT 7:10 PM RIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.